Juncker Warns Euro Is Doomed, "Pointless" If Schengen Fails

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As Europe's democratically elected leaders (and the people they represent) grow increasingly wary of the tsunami of refugees flooding their nations, prompting calls for restrictions on visa-free travel and an end to the so-called Schengen agreement, unelected EU leaders, clinging to their centralized power, are increasingly warning of the consequences of any restrictions. As EUObserver reports, EU Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker warned that the euro is pointless if people can't move around freely to use it.

Having already called for a European standing army, in order to show Russia "that [The EU is] serious about defending European values," EU Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker said Wednesday, in his first
speech to the European Parliament since the attacks in Paris that
killed 130 people, that Europe's single currency would come under threat if the Schengen visa-free travel zone fails. As EUObserver reports,

Juncker warned that the euro is pointless if people can't move around freely to use it.

 

“If the spirit of Schengen leaves us ... we’ll lose more than the Schengen agreement. A single currency doesn’t make sense if Schengen fails,” Juncker told the parliamentarians.

 

“Schengen is one of the main pillars of the construction of Europe,” he added.

The Schengen system of open borders has come under pressure as EU member states struggle to stop the influx of refugees - a level of displaced not seen since the end of World War II. Schengen has 26 members, though a few are not EU states. It is one of the major achievements of the European Union, allowing for free flow of people and goods.

“We have to safeguard the spirit behind the Schengen agreement,” Junkcer said, admitting: “The Schengen system is partly comatose.”

 

“Those who believe in Europe, those who believe in its values and principles, freedoms, must breathe new life into the spirit behind Schengen,” he noted.

 

“A single currency doesn’t make sense if Schengen fails,” he repeated.

 

He again warned against equating terrorists with refugees, saying politicians should not exploit the tragic Paris attacks.

 

“Those who carried out these attacks in Paris, those who incited these attacks, are the same people who are forcing the unlucky of this planet to flee, please don't get things mixed up,” Juncker said.

The real driver of Juncker's push becomes clear when we see what plans he has...

Speaking at the parliament, where legislation on sharing airline passengers’ data has stalled, Junkcer called on MEPs to cover people flying within the EU in the law.

 

He also confirmed the EU commission willi come forward with proposals on an EU-wide border guard and coast guard system in December, and called for more effective cooperation between European intelligence services.

More centralization, more surveillance, and less sovereignty.. all under the guise of protecting you the european people.

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Smegley Wanxalot's picture

Should have thought about that before you let in invading hoardes, EU-tards.

knukles's picture

Comment of the year .....
Did he say EU or Euro?  Ah, they're interchangable anyhow  (Hint hint ... The Euro is a straw-man for EU, here.)

Antifaschistische's picture

The quality of a currency is not related to citizen mobility.  The US dollar continues to be accepted around the world and US citizens definitely are not free to "move about the world".

The "go anywhere in Europe" strategy was never anything more than an attempt to dilute the respective idiocyncratic cultures of each country through porous border policy.   Once the dilution hit a certain point (not yet achieved) then the single Europe (member state) objectives could be fulfilled.

Haus-Targaryen's picture

Good.  Die Schengan you bitch die. 

 

Fuck Juncker. 

Mister Ponzi's picture

The Euro doesn't make any sense if Schengen fails? Great, so abolish the Euro!

Ghordius's picture

because Juncker says so? nah

Four chan's picture

who pulls junkers strings? that person or group should swing from the highest tree in europe.

COSMOS's picture

The backlash against admitting migrants in Sweden, Germany, and Austria is going to intensify, leading to a rejection of the political parties and government officials who sanctioned this enormously misguided experiment. 

A full sweep will bring in nationalistic parties and leaders with a kinship to Hungary's Orban. BIG changes affecting muslim communities in those countries are going to occur, whether people like it or not. 

The wave of discontent and resentment is growing and cannot be stopped. The parallels with Hitler's Germany when he began tightening the screws on the Jews and political dissidents cannot be ignored. 

Just a matter of time...Muslim communities better see the handwriting on the wall before it's too late, and consider moving back to where they belong. 

Migrants who are now attacking police on the Macedonia/Greece border and elsewhere in Europe, sewing their lips so they can't eat, hoping to elicit enough sympathy from guilt ridden European leaders that they will be allowed to continue their journey to those "promised lands" with generous social welfare benefits are in for a rude awakening. 

Only the soft headed, pansy ass Euro leaders will boo hoo, wave their moralizing finger at the tough response of those countries who keep their borders closed. Do the migrants actually believe the general populace gives a rat's ass whether they starve themselves to death? It's extortion, pure and simple. Designed to elicit Christian charity and use it against them at every opportunity. 

Hear the migrants sing: Let our people go. Let us travel freely, even though thousands of them hail from Pakistan, Morocco, Algiers, Bangladesh, African countries, bums looking for manna from the white man's heaven. 

They throw away their passports to conceal their identities, lie, say or do anything to get on the welfare rolls and start pumping out muslim babies so that one day, a muslim majority will take over the government and implement their bestial Sharia laws. 

The Quran tells them they can say anything they want to the Christian, no lie or deceit or cunning or deed is too foul when dealing with non believers in their march towards their destiny: a Muslim world where all non believers have been killed or enslaved.

And to think all this came about because of a handful of European powder puff intellectuals with misguided, idealistic sympathies thought Europe would show the world the way how to have one big, happy multicultural family living in perfect harmony.

August's picture

Juncker's lyng.

But only because he has to.

Escrava Isaura's picture

 

 

Euro doomed?

Isn’t euro the reserve (colonization) currency of Europe?


 

Ghordius's picture

correct, but cultures in Europe are strongly bound to language. and learning a new language takes longer then moving

btw, Sweden closed it's borders for further refugees. With the side remark of "so that Germany gets the message"

Denmark is... sniggering. with the side remark of "told you so, you wannabe humanitarian super-power"

where is cosmos? or does he only show up when things go the other way?

elstrom's picture
The free movement is about "structural adjustment" of the European working class, especially at the bottom. People from not least the poor eastern members should go to the richer countries in the west and suppress wages in general. That’s the basic idea.
The key thing isn’t about passports, hardly any problem to travel in general before Schengen. The key thing is that you can come and work without special permits in any country in EU. Even if countries now set up border controls they can't stop anyone with proper papers from other EU countries.
The pompous talk about free movement now is purely nonsense EU citizens can still move freely and work and live where they will in EU.
Stuck on Zero's picture

It seems that all criminal autocrats and petty despot dictators want to be surrounded by teeming hoards of impoverished masses.

eltxamo's picture

Hint: there is no EU, just a bunch of countries that signed over 9000 treaties, agreements and amendments onto thse agreements. There is no constitution yet.

The best Sun's picture

He did. They did.

TPTB want this backlash.

They want people to want to run from the black hand of a uni-polar "NWO"

to the white hand of new multi-polar UN controlled world.gov.

The plan is to make us beg for the next phase our own subjugation.

Same as it ever was.

MalteseFalcon's picture

"Jean-Claude Juncker warned that the euro is pointless if people can't move around freely to use it. Having already called for a European standing army, in order to show Russia "that [The EU is] serious about defending European values,"

Letting millions of military aged Arab and African men into Europe, who have no knowledge of "European values" and no intention of practicing them, is destructive of European civilization.  Juncker is quite aware of this and his hypocrisy is searing.

Basically Juncker is a careerist willing to throw a millennium of European civilization overboard.

MalteseFalcon's picture

Europe overrun by Arabs and Africans

Europe overrun by Russians

Ghordius's picture

"...a millennium of European civilization overboard"

a tad too much. national borders in the modern sense, i.e. with visas and passports, are roughly 150 years old

at the height of the British Empire, you could travel nearly the whole world without having to show your papers anytime

Haus-Targaryen's picture

And if you were poor, illeterate, from central Africa and came demanding free stuff in London, you were shot -- if you could get to London to begin with.

Social services were only for the domestic population and not for anyone with a pulse.

You are wanting a world with National Socialism. 

Your example doesn't fly Ghordo.  

Ghordius's picture

my example is purely about that "millennium", which, as far as I know, still means 1'000 years. and in the last 1'000 years, generally speaking, people could move freely, and they did

and it's when Nationalism started that suddently the millions of moving wanderers were suddently not welcome. Starting with Gypsies, of course

the same when suddently all national states asked for family names to be adopted universally, so that people could be tracked better. poor Jews got of course the silly surnames

MalteseFalcon's picture

Dude, in 1015 strangers in town typically got straight out killed.  Especially if they tried to take something that did not belong to them.

Jews and Gypsies were tolerated only to the extent that they had something trade and they stayed where they were told to stay.  When they strayed from that they got straight out killed.

Ghordius's picture

1015? my tribe moved across what today would be three or four national borders in the 11th century. and we conquered... England. again, a millennium is a lot of time

MalteseFalcon's picture

LOL. 

Your tribe moved across the continent only because they were killing as they went. 

This is hardly the kind of migration envisioned by Schengen.

Smegley Wanxalot's picture

Yup, pretty much it.  If a stranger showed up and said "hey, I have this stuff to sell, you interested?" and then left after the transaction, he was not killed.

But if a stranger showed up and said "hey, I have am here demanding your food, your shelter, and your women and I offer nothing in return" he was killed .... immediately, and deservedly.  And that is how it should be.

 

Ghordius's picture

yes, an apt summary of the 11th century. but now zip forward to the 15th century, and you get a completely different picture. including the famous Champagne Fairs

samjam7's picture

Ghordi you seem to forget that in those days, assuming your talking about the 15th century, only a handful of people had both the mental and financial menas to travel. Education was not available to most but the highest elites and finding work in a different "country" if you want to call kingdoms and duchies that way was probably a big challenge. Not saying it didn't happen but certainly not on a scale you see today.

I am pretty sure that moving from the Ottoman empire on to the Austro-Hungarian one (if we take the current migrant flow as a reference) would have probably been met with military controls and not been as easy as making a trip from Venice to Paris. :)

MalteseFalcon's picture

LOL.  Trade went on at the Champagne fairs. 

So what about unhelpful strangers in the 15th century?  Did they still get killed outright?

Torquemada.

MalteseFalcon's picture

LOL.  Just about everything in the 'modern sense' did not exist 150 years ago.

Let's see...  1015...  Was there a Pope and any Catholics then?  Did England exist (in the ancient sense)?  Some guys declared themselves the King of Norway and the Grand Prince of the Kievan Rus in 1015.  Who are they kidding?

Where did all those castles and cathedrals come from? 

Aqueducts were terribly ancient even then.  Do they count?

I remember reading Plato's Republic or was it a dream?

People listened to Gregorian chants, which is kind of like white guys rapping in Latin.

Well, it really was just a bunch of old white men.

 

elstrom's picture
Yes so true, if you were a British upper-class you could be an cosmopolite traveling freely your empire where the sun never sets.
Of course noble aristocrats have always traveled freely in Europa, letting their brats attending universities of choice and so on.  As in the late 19th century in Sweden even self-owning small holders had to get the authorities permission to e.g. emigrate to USA. Hinds and maids couldn't even move to other places inside the country without permission. But I suppose only aristocrats counts.  The life for the majority of the people in historic agrarian societies was the reality to be tied to the soil and heavy-handed controlled by the upper-class.
TRM's picture

Open INTERNAL borders between provinces = good

Open EXTERNAL borders = You are not going to like what happens next

Klemens's picture

Junker drunken in the Parlament: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiNVkrWyCko

Griffin's picture

Juncker, probably gearing up for a EU crisis summit.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPgiI46FCDU

Noplebian's picture
Noplebian (not verified) Smegley Wanxalot Nov 27, 2015 12:48 PM

Juncker will be hiding in the bunkers with all the other cowards and traitors, come judgment day!

 

This is Precisely Why We Are Soon to Be Visited By a ‘Great Flood’......

http://beforeitsnews.com/global-unrest/2015/11/black-friday-madness-this...

 

 

 

slaughterer's picture

Juncker: who takes this clown seriously?  His function is so clearly to spread pro-EU propaganda.   He is like the modern day Goebbels of the EU.  

The best Sun's picture

He is meant to be transparent.

So people scream for the cure/poison that is already prepared.

Bumpo's picture

Juncker seems to be the sole junker this morning. Single junks run wild today, as everyone else sees the joke unlimited immigration brings.

man of Wool's picture

 Of course it is his job to be pro-EU. Well he wouldn't be President if he was anti-EU!! I do not see any similarities with Goebbels apart from they are the same sex.

 

The man is obviously worried about Shengen going. Hyping it up as the end of the euro is absurd.

The best Sun's picture

Who is he kidding.
The Euro was designed to fail.

Ghordius's picture

titillating theory. please expand. before or after a different, more senior and global currency fails?

CCanuck's picture

Fiat = Fail
Should I expand that for you?

Ghordius's picture

yes. please, do expand. when did all fiat currencies fail on the whole world at the same time? note that I always suggest to hold some physical gold

Tallest Skil's picture

Your question is irrelevant to his point.

CCanuck's picture

Thanks TS,
Gordious often misses the forest through the trees.

MalteseFalcon's picture

If it makes you feel any better, the dollar was also designed to fail.

I suspect the euro and the dollar will be folded into the IMF's global currency to stave off currency collapse for a while.

And if the Chinese make demands during that period, Europe and America will meekly meet them.  Or their people will, I mean.

Ghordius's picture

if so, then humans are designed to fail, then we all die, eventually. meanwhile, it was not us being shocked by Tricky Dick, August 15th 1971, after being "convinced" to see the dollar "as good as gold"

MalteseFalcon's picture

The Japanese described it as the "Nixon Shokku".  Nixon meant to shock Europe and Japan.  You caught up economically after WWII and Nixon didn't want to face the facts.

Eventually America got hoisted on its on petard.

But none of this has anything to do with the fact that fiat currencies, including the Euro fail.  It's built into it's DNA.

Griffin's picture

The euro is a political tool. It was always intended for that pupose. It makes no economic sense whatsoever.

 

 

Al Tinfoil's picture

"The euro is a political tool. It was always intended for that pupose. It makes no economic sense whatsoever."

Well said.

The Euro gives those EU nations with advanced and highly efficient manufacturing sectors (Germany is the best example and greatesty beneficiary of the Euro system) an advantage over EU nations that have less competitive manufacturing sectors.  Previously, importing nations saw their currencies decrease in value as their import/export balance went against them, thus increasing the price of imports and decreasing the relative cost of wages in their country.  Under the Euro, importing countries cannot decrease the value of their currency to compensate for trade deficits, current account imbalances, or less competitive domestic manufacturers.  The clear winner is Germany.  Manufacturing and manufacturing jobs have decreased markedly outside of the major exporting nations.

At the same time, bankers lent like drunken sailors to clearly sub-par borrowers in the PIIGS nations, enjoying the implied assurance that the EU nations and IMF would bail them out when the loans went bad.  The loans often went to pay for imported goods and services. The clear winners here were the exporters and bankers in France and Germany.

The clear losers are the (now) unemployed workers in the PIIGS nations and the taxpayers throughout the EU.

As a means of giving economic advantages and wealth transfers to Germany and to bankers, the Euro has made sense.  But in terms of overall benefits to all EU nations, the Euro makes no sense.  As you say, the Euro is a political tool. It is an attempt to erase national distinctions among EU nations, but by failing to take into account the differences in (1) productivity; (2) wage, taxation, and expense levels for businesses; and (3) government benefits and budgets, the Euro makes no economic sense.

MalteseFalcon's picture

If it makes you feel any better, the dollar was also designed to fail.

I suspect the euro and the dollar will be folded into the IMF's global currency to stave off currency collapse for a while.

And if the Chinese make demands during that period, Europe and America will meekly meet them.  Or their people will, I mean.

I AM SULLY's picture
I AM SULLY (not verified) Nov 27, 2015 9:37 AM

Can we bind Juncker, stick a tire around his neck, pour gasoline on the tire, and light the tire on fire?

(can we please Santa Clause?)

(for the bay-bay Jesus?)