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WTF Headline Of The Day: Anti-Gun Police Chief Urges Public To "Take Out" Active Gunmen If Possible
D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier is an outspoken proponent of gun control (in a district which already has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation). So, when asked by 60 Minutes how people should respond to being near an active gunman, Lanier's response was bemusing as The Washington Times reports, saying that the "best option for saving lives before police can get there” would be for citizens to try to subdue, or even kill, the gunman.
In an interview Sunday on CBS’ “60 Minutes,” Chief Lanier was asked what should people do if they are in the vicinity of an active shooter like the those who carried out the recent terrorist attacks in Paris that killed 130 people.
As Townhall.com notes, to anyone paying the slightest attention to the fight over gun laws in the District, Lanier’s statement is curious, given that she’s been an outspoken proponent of gun control in D.C., which already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country.
“Your options are run, hide or fight,” Chief Lanier said. “I always say if you can get out, getting out is your best option. If you’re in a position to try and take the gunman down, to take the gunman out, it’s the best option for saving lives before police can get there.”
While gun rights supporters have long advocated for the ability to carry firearms so individuals are able to protect themselves and potentially even intervene in such a scenario, the advice rang hollow for those in the District, where firearm ownership is tightly regulated. As The Washington Times reports, Lanier's advice is a little confusing...
“This is sound advice,” said Alan Gottlieb, chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. “But considering the draconian gun laws in the District, it will remain difficult, if not impossible, for most private citizens to do what the chief is suggesting.”
“We’re glad Chief Lanier departed from the usual narrative and encouraged people to fight back,” Mr. Gottlieb said. “But her advice would have more credibility if she were to take a leadership role in reforming the District’s gun laws. You can’t fight back if you don’t have the tools, and the only way to take a gunman out, as the chief suggested, is to shoot back. That’s pretty hard if you don’t have a gun.”
It was unclear whether the police chief’s evolving view on how the public should engage with an active shooter also might mean a change in her stance on the city’s restrictive handgun-carry laws.
Chief Lanier noted during the “60 Minutes” interview that her advice was a departure from prior advice dispensed by police, who typically have encouraged witnesses to report a crime to police rather than to intervene.
“We’ve never told people take action... This is a different scenario,” she said.
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Stab them with your Govt approved scissors, and then restrain them with duct tape. Easy Peasy!
I thought we should put our Marxistcare pj's on and have coffe with them to understand their hurt feelings
Just throw stuff at them until they go away...I'd suggest Police Chief Cathy Lanier's brain since she obviously doesn't need or use it...
Finally! A chance to put my Monty Python "disarming an attacker wielding a banana" training to good use.
she's just another extremely dangerous, hypocritical, lib-tard, sociopath like all the rest. The only reason this dumb bitch begrudingly gave a somewhat logical answer was because she had to and was put on the spot with no way out. Especially now, given how overwhelmingly obvious it is in light of any kind of shootings going on around the world these days that armed, trained, and informed citizens are always going to be much more safer than ignorant, unarmed sheeple.
In most other situations, as we here know all too well, a typical lib-tard like this would much rather obfuscate, lie, and attack questions based on logic and facts by calling their questioner racists or some other stupid psycho, leftist, psycho-babble, bullshit.
But as all sane, trained, educated, common-sense gun (or other personal defensive/offensive type weapon of the given era) owners have always known for thousands of years:
1) When mere seconds count, the police (or "protectors" of some kind) are always more than several minutes away.
2) And the most dangerous and deadliest people in the history of the world have always been those in power who managed to disarm the people they have power and control over.
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Kill 'em all, and let God sort it out.
Okay, sarc, but really - this police chief's words are just common fucking sense.
Wait for the police ? Sure - if you want to be buried or cremated.
As far as I am concerned, it is un-American not to be a law abiding responsible gun owner.
Open carry, concealed carry, do what ever you feel comfortable with, and understand that you have a huge responsibility as a gun owner - to use defensive firearms responsibly, as a final solution to a problem that cannot be solved any other way.
To take a life, even that of a truly evil person is not Hollywood - it is final, and you will have to live with the act for the rest of your life. Having said that, if you decide to carry, practice, practice, practice.
Then, if you shoot someone, remember the old song, and string off rounds accordingly. " Shave and a haircut, two bits " - that's mag capacity for a standard 45 acp mag. with one extra in the pipe just in case you need a grand finale or no need to rack on reloading.
Even though it's common sense, saying them marks a huge change in position.
The standard advice for ages has been the BS don't fight/give them what they want camp of meek passivity. And people followed that advice and then whackjobs, terrorists and the like started exploiting it to up the kill count. Remember in the 70s, hijacking was all the rage, and that established the precendent of doing what the hijacker demanded, and that got us 9./11 (regardless of who was actually behind it, it depended on people being sheep.) The recent school shootings, same deal, hearding people into groups and then taking them out.
The fact that a police chief of the bastion of left-wing, brain-deal don't hurt the widdle criminal DC is saying this is huge. While it's WTF that they're anti-gun, this is the slippery slope (in a good way) towards people getting some balls back and the anti's losing their sway over policy.
What kind of violent right wing nut job are you?? Did you even think of using harsh language first???
Ha! You'd likely end up getting yourself arrested for hurting the gunman's feelings (or some passing SJW who happens to over hear you). Ironically using harsh language would likely carry a harsher sentence than if you stabbed them with a pair of scissors...
"GO AWAY YOU BAD BAD MAN!"
Was that too sexist?
How do you know it's a man? It could an otherkin asexual furry pod person from planet Utopia...you'd be in all kinds of trouble calling them a man...
Does the man identify as a woman? Is the man a person of color?
You're absolutely right. I feel ashamed. I should first offer them refreshments and then try to understand how I've taken part in their oppression.
After that, if I'm still alive, I should show them where the valuables are and help them load my truck with their reparations goodies.
"After that, if I'm still alive"
There would be no, "after that".
Declare that they are microaggressing your safe space and harshing your buzz.
Encircle them with freckle-faced, red-haired, whiny-voiced communications professors intent on finding nearby muscle to remove them! That'll scare them off!
whip out your iphone & say: "one more step & I tweet your photo & say you made a sexist joke! isis won't care if you did it or not - they won't risk the sjw backlash & will drop you like 1st period french!"
WTF?! Always cry and beg for you life from your knees if possible first you idiot.....!
This why I open carry a Snickers bar in Defensless killing zones er I mean gun free zones.
"Better?"
Chief Lanier know full well that American police are good only at back shooting, rape and protecting drug dealers. If she thinks that the police cannot do the job when killers are on the loose, just lay off all the cops, starting with Chief Lanier.
Aliens
Frost: "Hey, what the hell are we supposed to use man? Harsh language?"
https://youtu.be/i33DX9Wjd7E
..dry heat
And another 'victim' of gun violence bites the dust: http://www.wrdw.com/home/headlines/Aiken-County-Sheriffs-Office-investig...
Note the 'Victim' in the headline. Actually the two victims survived.
(PS. from what I read, the reason for the gun in the Raiders scene was because the stunt guy playing Indy for the sword fight had to take a leak, so he pulled the gun, shot the other stunt guy, and they ended up keeping it in.)
Actually, indy was quite sick with stomach bug and fever. The swordman practiced for a long time and hoped for his 15 mins of fame. It was spur of the moment change and just worked better so they went with it.
What a stupid bitch. What does she want the people she has disarmed to do in the face of a terrorist incident? Making a finger gun and shooting air bullets while yelling, "bang!"? Jesus...
And kids get suspened from school for making a finger gun...
i was looking for the first comment to simply say "stupid cunt". congrats, +1, close enough.
Maybe they could just *throw* the bullets at them... really hard...
Probably doesn't even realize the hypocrisy.
She get's paid to not pay attention to it.
I bet they prosecute the shit out of the first person who shoots one in self defense.
presented with the authority of God, I will wait around for the responses and down arrows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IjgBdjH7RA
All animals are fucked. Some animals are more fucked than others.
so you are an animal huh, and therefore f'd, is that it? how sad to know people think like you do, very unfortunate
I love little mousies,
Its what I love to eat,
First I bite their heads off,
then I nibble on their feet.
--A Cat
I can't even count the micro aggressions. When you said you "love little mousies" did you mean that or were you trying to invade their safe space? Did you get a signed waiver before advancing?
Depends upon your definition of "Mousie...".
Of course the preferred way is to "Pull an Indy".
In the absence of having a gun, having a Plan B makes sense.
Plan B is viable if you're in a homogeneous group, where the members can rush the threat at the same time.
If the choice is Rush or Die, you rush. It's what you do. ("If you want to save 15% on car insurance, you switch to ... It's what you do")
Exactly. Run, Rush or die are the options. The crowd of victims greatly outnumbers the perpetrators and if exiting isn't an option, then wtf.
Hey, if wishes were guns, beggars would have them out and pointed at the right spot when the shooter arrived. But that ain't how it is.
Run or Rush should be taught to people just like Stop Drop and Roll. It should be obvious.
Like a handgun is gonna be significantly effective in a crowd situation where somebody with multiple automatic weapons, shotguns, bombs, suicide vests, whatever has got the jump on you by a wide margin! And you're gonna have a perfect line of sight shot, too, right.
Sure, just the threat of armed people will turn them back cuz . . . them cowards are afraid of dying, right?
This ^ is a micro agression post that should be paid some attention to.
Bob, i regret my earlier crab at you. but not enough.
http://www.jokesdigest.com/cgi-bin/jokepage1.cgi?jid=2492
Thanks, Ahnode! When we've lost our sense of humor, life won't have much left to recommend it.
All onboard then you ruin it. What's your point?
+1
I'm going to call Progressive and get a comparison on all my options.
I guarantee you. If you some how subdued a gunman with your bare hands. The cops would arrive and beat you to a pulp or shoot you too. They believe in shoot first and ask questions later. They are Hero's after all.
They talked about this in schools a couple years ago - stab the "gunperson" with a sharpened pencil! But if the gunperson lives they can sue you for lead poisoning!
And, potentially, racism.
Agree, totally ineffective response, other than get the heck out of there.
I had an excellent, no-bull Professor in college who was a local Judge and taught a law class. She taught us how to best protect ourselves from legal jeopardy after "dealing" with an intruder.
I won't go into details, but there was some stagecraft involved. What a GREAT Prof and course for real world knowledge. She'd probably get fired for teaching that stuff today, as in many areas of the country the intruder is more entitled to your property than you are. That was a long time ago...
He/she/ it may collect a settlement.
Oh, this lady was a "Hanging Judge." The decedent's family still might sue, however.
After dialing 911, yell, "Don't you die on me! LIVE, dammit! LIVE!"
Please, let's DO 'go into details'...?
So off the top of my head:
- The situation has to be life-threatening
- Don't shoot an 'escaping' intruder under any circumstance
- Don't wound them
- Don't kill 'em on the doorstep and then proceed to drag them inside
- Don't kill 'em on your lawn
- Don't shoot a threatening intruder through your screen door (legal precedent already set on that...)
Please add...
Don't leave the body unburied (in a shallow grave in the desert)
Was that what you're looking for?
If, say, one of your knees gave out in the panic and commotion, and you thus fell/dropped to one knee -- which then caused your gun to fire in an upward angle (to indicate your vulnerable position, relative to the Perp) -- then this was clearly Self Defense, and not 'premeditated', right?
Make SURE they don't.
FBI statistics prove that resistance to a violent attack is the safest option. Look it up. Just odd hearing it come from a gungrab lib.
Personally I CCW, and stay out of "GUN FREE KILLING COMMUNIST DEMOCRAT UTOPIA ZONES".
Does this cunt really think an un-armed American is going to offer their body as cannon fodder to protect some stupid fucking politician? That's how the are........they want the best of both worlds.
Good point made there.
I personally crave the action and the fact as marked as being a hero for a ten second MSM news broadcast as being enough for the obituary.
A DELUSIONAL MOMENT OF TRUTH FROM THE POLICE CHIEF.
BHO ORDERS HER BACK TO THE COMMUNIST RE-EDUCATION CAMP. GUN ARE BAD, ILLEGALS, RELEASED PRISONERS, AND SYRIAN REFUGEES ARE GOOD. THEY WILL BECOME VOTING UNDOCUMENTED DEMOCRATS.
Pilgrims??? The idiot says they are modern day pilgrims? I find the president disgusting.
Everybody be sure to call .gov if you see anything suspicious.....mmmkay. If you are actually an accurate observer and detect something real in advance good luck with that shit.
You become permanently placed under scrutiny at an even greater magnification...
Liberalism is a well-known & devastating mental disorder.
D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier - just another offensive liberal cunt who can't manage a congruent line of thought and dialogue.
FUCK YOU LANIER!!!
Saw a video of a Military guy, in a convenience store, the bad guy comes in with a gun, military guy tackles him from behind and drags the guy to the ground, holding him till the cops come.. Cops come, Officer happens to be black. Nobody ever thanks the Guy.. shakes his hand or even pats him on the back.. I guess their attitude is why didn't you just let us handle it
I get her message a different way: If no cops are around, don't wait for the cops. Do what's logical and kill the shooters. But if there ARE cops, encourage the shooters and watch the cops die.
be a hero and save all the people that hate your guts. if you are white, the blacks hate you. if you are a man the women hate you. if you are straight the gays hate you...
if i was a straight white man i think i would watch out for my self and let everyone else (his betters so to speak) take care of themselves.....
Not everyone is quite so self absorbed as you.
I think I'd quickly assess the situation, my odds, whose life I might be saving, and if I want to risk all that if I deem them unsavory anyway.
It's one thing to risk saving a child's or friend's life, but it's quite another to risk it for some shady-looking character I don't know, or someone older than me.
Being 'good' does not mean being stupid or suicidal in my 'religion' (worldview). And I really don't give a damn what someone else's religion says I should do. If there's some Magical Guy-in-the-Sky, he can beam me up, show me his ID, and we'll chat.
Throw jelly donuts at them. The police will be there so fast the gunmen won't even have time to wipe the jelly out of their eyes before the police show up and unload 489 bullets at them while they lie dead on the floor.
what do you exepect when your police chief is a bitch? They never can make up their minds; no means do it harder, do it harder means no.
I know, try talking to the gunman. Ask him how his day is, how does he feel about gun play, what really moves him. See if he wants to role play a different character. Ask him what makes him feel vunerable. Just talk, that will make it all better.
It's society's fault.
first we have to ascertain if they were sexually abused as children...they may get a pass and it will be OK if they mass murder 50 or so folks. It's not their fault.
How many shootings have there been in Texas?
not enough.
This is no place for children.
Texas ranks 23rd in gun deaths and handles about 1 million background checks per year. Must be polite people.
Stupid ugly ass cunt... do us all a favor and pretend your service weapon is a donut and eat it...
«Hi, my name is Cathy, I will be your D.C. Chief of Police for today»......
since American police murder more American civilians than terrorists do, shouldn't civilians take out the police?
Expected her to tell the people to take on for the gipper.
Sonny said it best in the Godfather. " You fight for your family .
Excuse me, Ms. Police Chief Cathy Lanier would you mind if we used a handgun when trying to stop active shooters? So, you know, we don't risk grievous bodily harm, or death? What an asshole.
i might be wrong but hasnt this scenario already happened....i person shot a thief and they didnt have a gun permit and they gave the thief probation and the 'good citizen' went to jail for 3 years.....?
So tell me, which do YOU believe is thicker: the irony, the hypocrisy, or Chief Lanier?
If the police are not responsible for protecting you, and you are not permitted to carry a gun in DC and yet the recognized best way to stop a shooting incident is for those there to take the gunman out, then when the next massacre occurs and victims die either
(a) The victims and their survivors can sue and win a fortune for their survivors.
(b) The morons who passed the laws should go to jail for aiding and abetting the criminals and their own criminal negligence.
(c) The morons who passed the laws and continually enforce them should be killed as well 1 for 1. One for every victim killed or
(d) All of the above.
Isn't it time for a new revolution to reset everything?
Women.....lol
As if people carrying conceal had to be told to take out a terrorist.
And to think think brainless fuck runs a police station. The hypocrisy is appalling on an epic level.
We're here to protect you... Lies all of it.
She meant, of course, that you should use your bare hands. Heaven forbid that she should ever be accused of hypocrisy!
Of course, if you do have a gun about your person when confronting a deranged gunman, you can always bludgeon him/her with it. That, I assume, is also allowed by Ms. Lanier.
It all makes perfect sense. Yesterday my lib friends posted "Remember the Pilgrims were the original illegal immigrants" in the morning and then posted "Remember Thanksgiving is a day of mourning for the Native Americans in Plymouth, Mass." in the afternoon. It makes sense because their brains have been conditioned to only hold 1 thought at a time. Just like when they say "George Bush started this whole mess by removing Saddam" and then say "Obama is fixing this whole mess by removing Gaddafi and Assad."
What she meant to say was "try to fight, die, I really don't care. Your life means nothing to me."
With what? Quoting Aliens: Harsh Language?
Puns, japes and cutting ripostes.