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Obama Says "Enough Is Enough," Urges Gun Restrictions After Deadly Planned Parenthood Standoff

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Another 'mass' shooting, and another outraged statement from President Obama proclaiming "enough is enough." With 9 injured, and 2 police officers and 1 civilian dead after the dreadful standoff at a Planned Parenthood office in Colorado Springs, the President took the opportunity to explain "we have to do something about the easy accessibility of weapons of war on our streets to people who have no business wielding them. Period." Of course, any discussion of the shooter's mental health, the violent polarization towards and politicization of abortion among an increasingly micro-aggressive America were conveniently ignored.

As Reuters reports, expressing what has become regularly repeated frustration on the issue, President Barack Obama said on Saturday the United States needs to "do something" to make it harder for criminals to get guns after a shooting in Colorado killed three people and injured nine.

In Friday's shooting, an assailant opened fire at a Planned Parenthood clinic, a center that provides health services including abortions, in Colorado Springs.

 

It was the latest in a long series of U.S. mass shootings during Obama's seven years in office. He has called the December 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, his toughest day as president.

 

Obama said it was too soon to know the Colorado Springs shooter's "so-called motive" but said the tragedy was more evidence pointing to the need to reform firearms laws.

 

"This is not normal," said Obama, who has become increasingly forthright in urging gun control measures when he makes statements after such events. "We can’t let it become normal."

 

Obama tried to tighten up gun laws after the Newtown shootings, but met resistance in the U.S. Congress, including from some of his fellow Democrats, and failed to push a measure through.

 

After another deadly shooting at an Oregon community college last month, Obama said White House lawyers would pore through existing laws to look for new ways he could use his executive powers to enforce regulations.

 

One of those options would require more gun dealers to get a license to sell guns, which would lead to more background checks on buyers.

 

The White House had drafted a proposal on that issue in 2013, but was concerned it could be challenged in court. Administration officials are now hopeful they can find a way to advance the plan.

 

Obama has also pledged to elevate the issue of gun laws during his remaining time in office, and has denounced lawmakers for bowing to pressure from the powerful National Rifle Association lobby group.

Finally we thought this 'meme' provided some context...

 

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Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:05 | 6850648 strannick
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Funny how all these shootings always ovetail into libertty-sapping gvernment policies

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:09 | 6850672 InjectTheVenom
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go away bathhouse barry...just go away. pretty please ?  nobody cares what you say.  you are a fraud and you suck at everything you do.   and that's being nice.  

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:10 | 6850688 Ignatius
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Is there anyone who can dumb it down faster than this opportunistic idiot Obama?

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:22 | 6850728 redpill
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I assume he's also in favor of confiscating the "medical devices" used to carve up fetus for spare parts?

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:45 | 6850814 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Best POTUS ever! Has no clue about the meaning of The Constitution. How's his gangsta Travon's gunna make it?

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:58 | 6850855 Stuck on Zero
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I'm still waiting for Obama to chastize Hollywood for gloryifying gun violence.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:13 | 6850908 nmewn
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And (dare I say it?) the music he listens to ;-)

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:35 | 6850959 Theosebes Goodfellow
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From AFP News:

~"US President Barack Obama declared "enough is enough" and made an impassioned call for tighter controls on military-style weapons Saturday, a day after a gunman killed three people at a family planning center."~

More AFP BS. Military-style weapons is a misnomer and Obama knows it. Try to find an accurate description of " military-style weapons". Did this nutcase us a grenade launcher? Maybe he used a machine gun? Nope. So what exactly is this keister-sombrero talking about?

The next part of this BS is calling a Planned Parenthood operation a "family planning center". All they "plan" there is the murder of the unborn to sell the parts for profit.

This story is about an evil man planning an evil act, (depriving free men and women of their right to self-defense) instead of calling for better treatment of the mentally ill and the end of genocide against the very youngest. Maybe this is why 71% of 2012 Obama voters regret their votes. Talk about buyers' remorse.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:44 | 6850987 TeamDepends
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Breaking: Obongo just issued an EO which states that each and every Syrian "refugee" will be issued a brand new AK to protect themselves from "right wing extremists". Film at eleven.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:05 | 6851034 Government need...
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The White Housenigger just doesnt think the Constitution should be the law of the land.  Gotta grab the guns.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:13 | 6851046 NidStyles
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When I was in the military, I carried an M4 with a barrel too short to have without a tax license, a shotgun with impossible to get breaching rounds outside of mil/LE commmunity, and a machine gun that you can't even buy as a civilian, because it was never made here in the US. I also carried det. cord and a brick of C4 that is literally impossible to get in the US for any person without a security clearance. 

 

So what military arms is he talking about? My bolt actions rifle? It's worse than the mil stuff, and I'm not rich enough to shoot .300 Winmag all the time, because I have to pay for it myself. It's lowly .308 Win for my good rifle. A 12 gauge and a 9mm on the side. What the fuck is this moron even babbling about? Does he even know the difference between military weapons and personal ones? 

 

 

It's already almost impossible to buy a firearm in many places. Anything to push the UN small arms ban though, anything to appease the Marxist revisionists. 

 

 

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:26 | 6851058 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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From my cold dead hands you muslim nigger trash.

If people want to kill their own babies, whatever... more room on this planet for mine.

If people want to kill the “doctors” who preform those atrocities, whatever... all the power to them.

But if people want to make this about guns, there's a big fucking problem.

You got the power to take them nigger?

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:35 | 6851114 TeamDepends
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It's happening folks, a Coast Guard vet and distinguished LEO with a spotless record is denied his RIGHT to buy a shotgun.http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=1632

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:50 | 6851160 Keyser
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I find it humorous that Oblamo rants at gun ownership in the US when he air drops tons of weapons and ammunition to radical islamic terrorists, while you and I pay for it... If he wants to curb gun sales in the US, he should just STFU, because gun sales have done nothing but set record sales figures ever since he opened he stupid fucking mouth on the topic... 

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 21:11 | 6851217 JohnG
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But never, ever one goddamn word about his sons right in his own back yard:

http://heyjackass.com/

 

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 22:50 | 6851442 0b1knob
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< Had enough...of guns.

< Had enough...of Obama.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 11:16 | 6852461 Four chan
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go with the statistics, disarm your blacks, and whites wouldn't need guns, for self protection at least. protection against the government is a different threat. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUrVKbaUkAAoV4R.jpg

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 21:42 | 6851266 knightowl77
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I find it hypocritical and ironic....But I do NOT find it humorous, at all!

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 00:05 | 6851633 1033eruth
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Absolutely no reason being provided as to why he was denied.  If he was convicted of a misdemeanor domestic violence, that's reason enough right there.  All the rest of the bullshit is irrelevant.  Doesn't matter if he was Medal of Honor recipient.  

That article was disgustingly misleading and leaving out important details.  

I'm PRO 2nd amendment but I'm anti lying and propaganda.  I want the ENTIRE TRUTH when an anecdotal is being provided 

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 07:54 | 6852181 Smiddywesson
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There was also no mention of the location of the event.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:33 | 6851108 Normalcy Bias
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Obama may very well go too far here, and effectively step on his own dick.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:50 | 6851157 TeamDepends
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Or the Wookies'.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 00:24 | 6851675 BarkingCat
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I am pretty sure he is dickless. He might step on Reggie's.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 04:24 | 6851994 sodbuster
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Pretty hard to step on Reggie's dick, when he is suckin' on it.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:59 | 6851192 Boondocker
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Amen...got taught to blow crap up, went to work for one of the evil corporations, sat on my ass for 4 months while I got a security clearance to do the exact same things I did in the military....

Wish I had brought home some souvenirs...

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 03:04 | 6851924 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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You are part of the US military?

They didn't kill Nazi's back in the 1940s?

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 08:09 | 6852194 gina distrusts gov
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Opeation Gladio in the ussa from 9-11 to now

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:37 | 6850965 HungryPorkChop
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Ever notice how these bleedin' heart libertards always promise to leave gun laws alone until they get into office.  Then anytime there's a shooting the first words out of their lyin' mouths is we need moar' gun control.

I came to the conclusion years ago it was a hit-and-run setup.  First they defunded state and govt services for mental health patients and throw them all into the streets.  Then when one of these people gets a gun and starts hearing voices it's just a matter of time until a mass shootin' begins.  Then the politicians already have pre-written legislation ready to ram through the system while everyone is still in shock.  Yeah, ever notice how everyone of these mass shootings deal with people that are on psych drugs or should be in an institution?  A complete hit-and-run setup which they know will continue to repeat again and again and again. 

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 22:08 | 6851325 zhandax
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I am not in shock. Then again, I didn't hear the teevee repeatedly tell me I should be since it hasn't been turned on since last weekend.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:53 | 6850836 nmewn
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But but but those are all perfectly "legal medical devices"! ;-)

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:18 | 6850917 WillyGroper
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Yes!

It's for the chillen's.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 04:56 | 6850857 Blythes Master
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Funny thing is......this shooting occured in close proximity to the PP clinic but had nothing to do with the PP clinic. Does that stop the usual harpies from piling on? Not one bit. Shame on the tylers for following the false narrative and piling on like the useless tools trumpeting this false story.

Odildo should shut the fuck up and go golfing with his fag friends.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:06 | 6851035 Kirk2NCC1701
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Are these clinics "Black-Lives-Matter-Free-Zones", where services are denied to Blacks, or offered just to Whites?

 

It's Colorado, so let me guess...

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 08:09 | 6852193 Refuse-Resist
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#blackabortetdbabiesmatter

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:24 | 6850730 RonArgent
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So the filthy lying Muslim traitor says we should abandon the Bill of Rights so we can have freedom. The 2nd Amendment is to protect America from presidents who think they are kings.

 

the militia were free men who kept guns in their homes and rose up against the government's troops. Raise your hand (or junk me) if you are too stupid to understand that

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:28 | 6850948 847328_3527
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He forgot to mention drone restrictions.

 

That's odd.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 21:21 | 6851236 maxamus
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Exactly 0.0% of your "militia" today would try to fight the government's "troops".  0.0%.  zero point zero percent.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 00:13 | 6851649 Government need...
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That's bullshit.  I'm guessing when the shit jumps off for real, 10-20 million will be looking to mete out some justice.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 04:38 | 6852009 The Wedge
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Jesus fucking christ the sky wizard would. And I for one stand with the wizard from above. He carries a Barret 50 cal smiter that's second to none!

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 09:51 | 6852315 SmackDaddy
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if ive learned anything from Iraq and Afghanistan- it's amazing what you can do with a propane cylinder wearing a pair of fucking sandals and a goddamn towel on your head

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:48 | 6851149 surf0766
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a fraud means you actually wanted the shit he was saying. Looser

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 03:36 | 6851953 OldPhart
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Mr Prostident,

Kiss my ass.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 13:29 | 6852862 Demdere
Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:09 | 6850680 BlueViolet
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And ironic also. A place where death is induced through abortion is where the government cries wolf over gun ownership. The value of LIFE & the direction of DEATH=> http://wp.me/p4OZ4v-6u

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:21 | 6850710 Normalcy Bias
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Exactly. What's the score for that day? I'm guessing Planned Parenthood wracked up a MUCH HIGHER body count.

FACT: If the NUT had shot and killed a pregnant girl who'd just walked into the clinic for an abortion, he'd be charged with TWO more counts of murder.

The hypocrisy involved here is astounding.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:23 | 6850729 knukles
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Who down voted that?  Who the fuck down voted that?

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:26 | 6850743 Normalcy Bias
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There are red arrow fruitcakes running wild the last few days, going through every thread and downvoting EVERYTHING almost instantaneously. That's how they get their kicks, I guess. lol

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:30 | 6850764 knukles
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Either paid trolls or pure crazy people with nothing better to do.
Awesome, no?
Also amazing is how sensitive and caring those folks are of the Liberal/Progressive sentiment when confronted with statements such as yours, with Truth and Facts!
Then it's Katy bar the door, bring on the dissembling Ad Hominems, the distractions, changing of the subjects.

No kidding that the guy who shot the people was a loner, assault rifle wielding Christian (see the photos of the cross made of twigs), etc., etc., etc. 

The Propaganda Runs Deep!

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:33 | 6850771 I AM SULLY
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They are the rabid filth of the earth.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:40 | 6850793 Normalcy Bias
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That "cross of twigs" looked like a couple of pieces blown from a tree into a spider web. I've seen that king of thing before. It was sideways, anyway.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:56 | 6850848 knukles
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Yes.... As was the reporting, the "hint" of the intolerant crazy Christian murderer, gun nut, etc.
Yep, played right into the memes of the horrors of the Conservative ... Oh, never mind.
We still got a year of this shit left, then the new shift. 

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:11 | 6850902 Normalcy Bias
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knuks, it's gonna get progressively worse and crazier over the next year. Obama knows he can't be re-elected, but he is so arrogant that he is also is in danger of overplaying his hand, so that tens of millions of people stand up to him and say 'no more.' That would effectively terminate his authority.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 21:07 | 6851208 Iam_Silverman
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"knuks, it's gonna get progressively worse and crazier over the next year."

 

Hah!  I was paying attention and caught the hidden pun you landed.  Nice one.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:33 | 6850953 atomicwasted
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You don't believe any one could disagree with you? You must be both arrogant and delusional.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 22:21 | 6851369 knukles
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No.  Just awake.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 12:00 | 6852604 Iam_Silverman
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"You don't believe any one could disagree with you? You must be both arrogant and delusional."

 

Huh?  I really don't care if no one else catches a turn of a phrase as a hidden pun.  Due to being a grammar/spelling nazi, I have been called arrogant before.  So maybe you're right on that part - but still, your reply to my post is mystifying.  unless of course you meant to reply to the post TWO above mine - in that case you're a farkin' idiot.  Back to Remedial ZH Posting 101 for you.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:49 | 6851152 surf0766
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It is the Nudge Team from Cass

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 21:01 | 6851190 Lea
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"Also amazing is how sensitive and caring those folks are of the Liberal/Progressive sentiment when confronted with statements such as yours, with Truth and Facts!"

It's not a matter of who gets shot (and I didn't downvote anyone, to make it clear), it's a matter of how many shootings there are in the USA. It's reaching epidemic levels but every time, you gun-toters blame it on "the mental health of the shooter", the "police State", the "Liberal conspiracy", etc. Why not the weather, as you're at it?
The USA-Denialistan is turning into a shithole of epic proportions. As far as crime is concerned, you 'Murikans are only superseded by compleat hell-holes like Papua New Guinea or Liberia but hey, no, it's "a Liberal conspiracy". And don't tell me you need guns "against the "Marxist" State, to "defend your liberty". How many bankers, how many Beltway politicos, how many MIC war criminals, how many abusive policemen have you killed? None, that's how many.
You only keep killing each other.

Ban the fucking guns already. Save your sorry lives and whatever shred of decency you still may have.

 

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 21:16 | 6851227 Iam_Silverman
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"How many bankers, how many Beltway politicos, how many MIC war criminals, how many abusive policemen have you killed? None, that's how many."

 

Right.  That's because we are the law-abiding citizens who should not be punished for the crimes of the murderous and evil people out there.

"You only keep killing each other."

OK, so this is where your logic gets fuzzy.  Is it OK if I go and murder those listed above?  On the other hand, as long as you are not the one being shot at, why do you even care?

"Ban the fucking guns already."

Ahh, this statement pretty much leads me to believe you are one of the disarmed pantywaisted Europeans (or Australians) who sit around and piss your panties whenever terrorists barge into your parties to create mayhem, or when the towelheads rape and kill your women you wring your hands and demand that "somebody do something" rather than taking the responsibility for you and your family's safety in your own hands.

So, the ban against fully-automatic Kalishnakovs in Paris did pretty well, huh?  Wouldn't it have been a better idea to make murder illegal too?  Oh, wait....

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 22:00 | 6851316 Implied Violins
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Careful...she's in a 'gun-free zone.' She might get violent.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 08:56 | 6852188 Lea
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"Ahh, this statement pretty much leads me to believe you are one of the disarmed pantywaisted Europeans (or Australians) who sit around and piss your panties whenever terrorists barge into your parties to create mayhem,"

I am European, of course, therefore civilized. 

And Ahh, your statement pretty much leads me to believe you are one of the armed pantywaisted Americans who sit around and piss your panties whenever mass shooters barge into your schools to create mayhem.

Exactly how many mass shootings have you gun-toting "American heroes" stopped or prevented, BTW?
None, that's how many.

Some "protection of lives and liberty". It's pathetic.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 12:30 | 6852683 Iam_Silverman
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"I am European, of course, therefore civilized."

Don't confuse "Socialized" with "Civilized".  I have traveled all over Europe while serving in the military.  Some parts are nice, some parts still cling to their history, some parts are as bad as NY City slums.  Mussolini, Hitler and a few other famous Europeans probably considered themselves "civilised" too.  Thank goodness there were Americans still skilled in the use of small arms to come over and liberate you proud and strong disarmed socialists.  I don't think I would volunteer to save your sorry asses now from the invading Muslim hoards though.  You clowns brought that on yourselves (same as we have to deal with our own type of invaders).

"And Ahh, your statement pretty much leads me to believe you are one of the armed pantywaisted Americans who sit around and piss your panties whenever mass shooters barge into your schools to create mayhem."

 

Well, since you are looking for an example, how about looking into statistics here in Texas.  We've had no mass school shootings here.  Ever wonder why?  Well, maybe it is because there would be an instant response from armed parents.  Here in Texas, as a CHL (concealed handgun license) holder, you may stand on the front steps of your child's school while covertly armed.  Many of the teachers and administrators are CHL holders or avid sportsmen and have firearms readily available in their vehicles.  Where the shootings do tend to occur are in the "Progressive" enclaves where the "civilised" lefties try to emulate the socialist European model and just naturally assume that "someone else" will protect them or their families.

"Exactly how many mass shootings have you gun-toting "American heroes" stopped or prevented, BTW?
None, that's how many."

Well, I know that you really, really want to believe yourself on this one - but you'd be wrong. 

A quick Google search yields several - this one has pictures and smaller words for quicker scanning - I know that you must be pressed for time to go and be civilised with your peers - http://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2015/03/10-cases-where-an-armed-citi...

I do have personal experience in the use of deadly force to stop an aggressor.  the latest use was only two years ago as a tourist in Oklahoma City.  My wife and I, and another couple (not acquaintances of ours) were crossing into Bricktown from the Cox Convention Center after dark.  As we waited for the pedestrian crossing signal, a kneegrow crossed against the light and whispered into the ear of another one waiting in the shadows behind and to the left of us.  They waited for us to start moving before they acted like they were walking by.  Immediately as they passed me (I was in the rear) they spun around.  I was watching our "six" and called for the others to fall inline behind me.  They were still attempting to draw when I had them covered by a hastily presented LCP.  They took off on the run rather than engaging.  It happens all the time here in America.  You just don't read about it because it doesn't fit the Mainstream Medias disarmament agenda.  You could go to the NRA website and read literally hundreds of accounts of self-protection in the "Armed Citizen" section for more (unfiltered) information, if you dare.......

 

 

 

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 23:00 | 6851458 greenskeeper carl
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Never gonna happen. There are over 300 million of them. The most popular gun in this country is the evil AR15, the scourge of liberals everywhere. You gonna volunteer to go take them from people? Door to door gun confiscation team? Good luck with that.

A lot of people say things like 'you can have my guns when you pry them from my cold dead fingers' and most won't actually take it that far. But even if it's 1% of gun owners, you talking about over a million people. Many rural sheriffs have already said their departments won't ever so anything like that, so it would have to be federal officers doing it. Not going to go very well.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 00:07 | 6851639 Pinche Caballero
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The right to bear arms is necessary for the security of a free State. Therefore, the right shall not be infringed.

All other discussion in favor of, or against, the right of gun ownership is irrelevant.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 02:41 | 6851906 Adahy
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Fact:  Gun homicide in the US is at HALF of what is was in the early 90's.  So explain 'reaching epidemic levels' without the news cherrypicking stories for you to skew your perception.
Rates are half, yet you see 10x as many news stories about guns so you think it is an epidemic.  See how that works?

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 02:54 | 6851917 dchang0
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Sorry, Lea, but shootings are not reaching epidemic levels.

These are the recently-released FBI violent crime stats (for 2014--they lag by a year):

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the...

Violent crimes of all kinds are going down including murders, including shootings.

Here's another source:

https://mises.org/blog/pew-homicide-rates-cut-half-over-past-20-years-wh...

"Homicide rates cut in half over past 20 years while new gun ownership soared." The title says it all, but you're welcome to read the truth and facts inside.

They quote Pew Research, not exactly a pro-gun organization. Here's a quote from Pew:

"Although most Americans think the number of gun crimes has risen, the U.S. gun homicide rate has actually stabilized somewhat in recent years."

Truth and facts.

But you'd rather feel good about yourself by punishing people (MILLIONS of innocent gun owners) who had nothing to do with the gun crimes mostly committed by drug cartel-backed inner-city gangs. This is no different than lynching one innocent black man for the crimes another black man committed.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 08:12 | 6852198 Lea
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"Sorry, Lea, but shootings are not reaching epidemic levels."

You live in Denialistan.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-leads-world-in-mass-shootings-1443905359

http://www.voanews.com/content/united-states-mass-shootings/2989301.html

And that's only two links.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 14:21 | 6853041 psychobilly
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"You live in Denialistan."

You are an ignoramus.

Most "mass shootings" are the result of urban primitives engaged in killing each other (i.e., gang violence). 

The US doesn't have a gun problem.  It has an urban primitive problem. A problem that effete, emasculated Europeans will increasingly come to understand with their insane immigration policies... with the multicultural, multiethnic utopia of Sweden as the rape capital of Europe leading the way. 

There's no correlation whatsoever, within the US or globally, between rates of civilian gun ownership and homicide rates.  There are states in the US with very high rates of gun ownership, lax "gun control", and very low homicide rates.  There are also states and municipalities with comparably low rates of gun ownership, much stricter "gun control", and much higher homicide rates; not by coincidence, these places with the highest homicide rates and strictest gun control also have the highest concentration of urban primitives.

Globally, the US has one of the highest rates of gun ownership and one of the lowest homicide rates, a reality which of course is easy for leftoids to hide from people if they only include a small sample of countries in their statistical comparisons.

Here in the US, violent crime is most correlated with the percentage of urban primitives (i.e., black people) living in an area.  The correlation is between .75 and .85, depending on the data set you want to use.  Anyone who knows anything about statistics knows that a correlation in the range of .8 is extraordinary.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 04:24 | 6851997 The Wedge
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Illogically conceived idiotic nonsense

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 08:11 | 6852195 Refuse-Resist
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You go ahead and turn in your gun.

I'll do otherwise.

Thanks.

 

 

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:35 | 6850775 rejected
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Probably part of that group the NSA goons are hiring to promote the exceptionalism of the nation of death.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:06 | 6850881 mbutler101
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Those are simply the 'manufactured consent' bots.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 09:47 | 6852309 roadhazard
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Yes ZH would be much better if everyone agreed in lock step.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:55 | 6850817 OregonGrown
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Thinking ZH should start showing the names of the people that not only upvoted (think facebook) but downvoted as well!  Very few dingbats are willing to put themselves out there on front street, when they can get publicly shamed.   

 

OH, AND FUCK YOU OBAMMY!   YOU LYING - TREACHEROUS PIECE OF SHIT!  

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:59 | 6850860 Bangin7GramRocks
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I downvoted you jizzface.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:20 | 6850895 OregonGrown
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Doesnt surpise me... What DID surpise me is that you know how to read and know how to work a computer!  For that, you get my upvote!

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 08:11 | 6852196 Refuse-Resist
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Fuck Facebook. Downvote.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:53 | 6850837 F0ster
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Fucking womens rights created this vile period in human history where women actuall believe in their new legal right to murder children. Fuck Planned Parenthood and bravo to the people who fight them.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:54 | 6850846 Bangin7GramRocks
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I would curb stomp your ass!

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:20 | 6850859 OregonGrown
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I dont think so..... After seeing your wigged out fro, I would trayvon your punkass faster than your mom can say, "I LOVE IT when my boy calls me "7 gram rocks".

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:27 | 6850943 BlindMonkey
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A threat of curb stomping on the hedge. 

 

You do realize that the crowd here are several sigmas from normal in almost every conceivable way.  The chance of 'curb stomping' some defenseless chump here approaches zero.  

 

Good luck with that...

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:34 | 6850955 Bangin7GramRocks
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Obviously! I come here to learn and mix it up on occasion. Not actually threatening violence. Just like to tweak some fools from time to time. Shit! I haven't even started drinking tonight. I'll be a real asshole later for sure.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:39 | 6850969 BlindMonkey
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"I come here to learn and mix it up on occasion."

 

I would pass on the alcohol and read a book if your actual goal is to mix it up.  So far, you aren't showing that you are terribly witty, insightful or educated.  

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:43 | 6850982 Bangin7GramRocks
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You are quite the sensitive cunt aren't you! Lighten up Francis.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:51 | 6851161 surf0766
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And you are a pussy

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 23:04 | 6851468 greenskeeper carl
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"You do realize that the crowd here are several sigmas from normal in almost every conceivable way. The chance of 'curb stomping' some defenseless chump here approaches zero."

I don't think I've ever heard the crowd here described so well. Good shit.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 11:22 | 6852477 BarkingCat
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To be fair the quality of posters here has dropped significantly over the last couple of years. I have been reading ZH for at least 4 years and the difference from rhe time when I was introduced to this place is quite dramatic, especially over the last year.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:38 | 6850966 FredFlintstone
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"several sigmas from normal in almost every conceivable way"... That will be put on my quote list

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:23 | 6850931 Urban Redneck
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It's more a function of dividing and conquering the retards to achieve political ends.  The anti science party rejects the hard science of basic human biology while pushing the pseudo science of man made carbon dioxide emissions warming the earth, meanwhile the anti freedom party says that people should not be allowed to exercise sovereignty over their own bodies (beit prenatal murder, consumption of drugs/alcohol, unregulated or self medication, or certain acts with genitalia that don't jive with their brand of Taliban doctrine). 

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 21:08 | 6851212 rwe2late
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Illogical dogmas such as the false equation of a 1 day old zygote

with a sentient adult or child is part responsible for causing

the mayhem and hatreds in the world.

 

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 02:45 | 6851910 Adahy
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Do you communicate only through fallacies?

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 11:28 | 6852493 BarkingCat
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You must be lost and think you're on some bible thumper website. I see you brought a few of your retarded friends with you.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:34 | 6850958 ACP
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@knukles

You forgot to say which one of you communist twinkle - toed cocksuckers just signed his own death warrant?!? 

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:44 | 6850988 all-priced-in
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Had to be a liberal - even a retarded conservative could understand that.

 

 

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:18 | 6851069 Kirk2NCC1701
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Billary/Hitlery, Progressives.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 11:14 | 6852453 BarkingCat
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I did not but should have for his asinine first paragraph.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:44 | 6850808 Bangin7GramRocks
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How many unwanted babies have all of you anti-abortion people adopted? Given a nice stable home? That's right none! You want all of these unwanted babies born to this world, but you have no plan for what happens to them after they exit the vagina. You are the same people that bitch about crime and welfare, yet you yearn to abolish abortion and unleash millions of unwanted new wards of the state.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:59 | 6850858 nmewn
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Well, at least you correctly called them babies.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:26 | 6850938 conscious being
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nmewn, the babies are inconvienient ... so kill them? Re. adopting I have.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:33 | 6850952 Urban Roman
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You adopted a fetus? How did you manage to carry it to term?

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:02 | 6850870 Grimaldus
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I don't want you either. Does that mean I can kill you? No, it doesnt. Duh.

 

Life is hard. It is even harder if you are progressive stupid.

 

 

 

 

Grimaldus

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:07 | 6850885 Bangin7GramRocks
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You are all so full of shit! If the magic silly book said that metal clothes hangering babies in the womb was a direct path to the sky party, you would all slaughter away with smiles. Death, murder, war and brutality is just fine in all forms of life to you bastards, but you obsess over abortion because of your dumb fucking book. Grow up man and think for yourself!

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 23:08 | 6851479 greenskeeper carl
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I'm not ok with death, war, murder, or brutality in any form. This includes abortion. I don't believe in any form of magical sky fairy either, so try again. If you think most of the people who post here are ok with any of tht shit, you must be new here. But you aren't, so you should know better. Which means that you are making bullshit straw man arguments, so fuck off.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:08 | 6850893 LasVegasDave
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There is actually quite a high demand for human babies.

Orc whelps, not so much

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:47 | 6851147 all-priced-in
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Just in case anyone wants to down vote Bangin7GramRocks  more than once -

 

This is your chance -

 

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:53 | 6851168 MopWater
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They could try not fucking...I mean, that'd solve the problem.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 21:15 | 6851205 Francis Marx
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^ "How many unwanted babies have all of you anti-abortion people adopted? Given a nice stable home?"

 

 I guess none for me. But then again, I dont adopt parentless pigs, cats, dogs or mice as well.

You seem to put them in the same camp. No... its irrespossible, loose people who have unwanted children.  They create the destuctive burden upon society. Don't make it like everyone outside of those types are the fault.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 23:17 | 6851494 Chaos_Theory
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Dang...you may have hit on a good idea...invent "extreme late-term abortion" and whack the wards of the state!  Presto, balanced budgets, Japan-level low crime, a veritable Utopia!  Add in Logan's Run and we can fix Medicare and SS too!

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 02:55 | 6851919 Adahy
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Sex makes babies, everyone knows this.  Them not taking responsibility for their actions is the crux of the problem.  You HAVE to let negative consequences happen or people will never learn.  It might be ugly for a while, but nature WILL bend human behavior as long as consequences are not mitigated by some outside force.

Subsidizing the negative consequences of being a whore.  U S A !

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 08:20 | 6852201 Refuse-Resist
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You're right. have you looked at what segment of the USPOP is doing the majority of abortions?

While I am against such practices and would never endorse it for my family, I cannot object to something keeps the population of criminals and defectives in the US at a manageable level.

Without it, we'd have 2x as many welfare recipients and felons as we do today (going back to the original passage of Roe V. Wade).

If a mother wants to kill her baby, then that's her eternal soul that's going to burn not mine -- if you believe in that sort of thing.

It's her that has to live with the guilt, assuming she's not a psychopath.  Not me.

What I don't want is double the number of dindus.  Since I'm not a statist, I don't feel the need to stick a gun in somebody's face, err pass a law, to keep them from doing somethign that I don't like but doesn't  hurt me directly.

I say to all the single mothers out there who want to abort their unwanted babies:  GO FOR IT.  If the baby is born us taxpayers will utlimately end up supporting it, through welfare, Section 8, Head Start, More At Four, Free lunches, EBT, TANF, GSLs, and for many, the penitentiary.

Who want's that? Deraged lunatics that's who.

I simply don't give a fuck.

None of my business. It's not my wife, not my daughter etc.

Statists mind your own goddamn business.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 12:27 | 6852676 STP
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Exactly.  They make it look like every baby is valuable.  Not so much, when they're strong arming shop keepers, flash mobbing retail stores , or protesting about how much their lives matter.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 08:28 | 6852212 gina distrusts gov
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You are the same people that bitch about crime and welfare, yet you yearn to abolish abortion and unleash millions of unwanted new wards of the state.

 

 

Must ensure a supply of cannon fodder

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:12 | 6850693 fockewulf190
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Always avoided: The Chicago statistics.

http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/shootings

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:40 | 6850795 Kirk2NCC1701
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Also avoided:  ISIS statistics, via Turkey.

And STOP CALLING THEM ASSAULT RIFLES!  They are TACTICAL Rifles.

Assault Rifles have 3 Modes of firing:  Single, Burst and Auto.  Used by Military.

Tactical Rifles have 1 Mode of firing: Single.  Civilian use.

Their similar appearance is irrelevant, unless you claim and can prove that said 'looks can kill'.  MSM morons, and dumbass Sheeple for repeating this phoney mantra!

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 21:26 | 6851246 Iam_Silverman
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"Assault Rifles have 3 Modes of firing:  Single, Burst and Auto.  Used by Military."

 

Well, I guess it really depends on your timeline.  The muskets that were the state of the art in weaponry in the days of the revolutionary War could have been considered an "Assault Rifle" too back then.  Well, except that they were owned by everyone who wanted one and had the means to purchase one (and wasn't a subject or slave).

But, I generally do agree with your assessment.  A SA rifle does not in any way compete as well with a fully-automatic weapon in the right hands.  That is why stand-off capability is so important.  If you know that the police cruisers assigned to watch captains in your AO have M-4's and 320 rds. of 62grain XM855 in the trunk, then you need to be able to engage the driver of said vehicle from 400 yards or greater.  A good bolt action chambered in 300 Win Mag or .338 (Win or Lapua mag) could certainly do the trick.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:15 | 6850702 Normalcy Bias
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Yeah, nevermind the fact that the shooter was a known nut that slipped through the cracks of the criminal justice (and mental health) system. Once again, it appears you have to go overseas to the UK Daily Mail for the whole story. The domestic press doesn't want to report facts that get in the way of Obama's agenda.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3337460/Police-suspect-Colorado-Springs-Planned-Parenthood-shooting.html

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:25 | 6850740 Loismustdie
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8 workers at abortion clinics killed since 1977.

That's the only number I need to hear. Much more dangerous to work a convenience store.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:47 | 6850994 Calmyourself
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Paging Brian Terry, Brian Terry to the ATF gunwalking phone please..   How about the hundreds of Mexicans killed in their Gunwalking crimes, they don't count do they... Leftists only care when the proper victim group is targeted.  Evidence the carnage of Chicago, fuck off gungrabbers...

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 20:24 | 6851084 Kirk2NCC1701
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Much more dangerous to work at a convenience store in inner cities.

FIFY.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:19 | 6850717 BullyBearish
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Hey OBUMMER...when you stop providing weapons to every psychotic judeo-islamo-christian facist group in the world you can then start talking about Americans and their personal protection...by the way, to paraphrase an old Ted Kennedy aphorism, "Your drones have killed infinitely more innocent people than American's guns"

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:33 | 6850768 SILVERGEDDON
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NOT ONE FUCKING WORD ABOUT HOW MANY BLACK LIVES MATTER WANNA BE'S THAT SHOT EACH OTHER IN Chicago this weekend.

Makes the Colorado event look like amateur hour in comparison.

Makes the criminal restrictions on gun ownership and the gun control measures in Chicago look as ineffectual as they truly are.

Makes O'Blammie's buddy Rahm look like a loser mayor, which he is - shootings in Chicago have increased under his saintly overwatch.

Suck it, O'Blammie. Take your fake hype to Chicago, Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York, and every other urban shit hole where black lives don't matter based on your total lack of concern for those who continue to die.

When you cannot even enforce and prosecute based upon the laws on the books designed to protect civilians from criminals, DON'T EVEN preach to me about more bullshit gun control that does not work, that criminals don't give a shit about, and that denies law abiding citizens the ability to own firearms for legitimate self defense.

Go fuck yourself with the Second Amendment sideways, you prick.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:57 | 6851025 Noplebian
Sat, 11/28/2015 - 22:52 | 6851448 MFL8240
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This man thinks we are all this stupid?  He thinks we think this guy acted on his own and convieniently at Planned Parenthood? Get rid of this man Mr Ryan, that will get you the respect you need to be speaker!

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 01:13 | 6851790 RevIdahoSpud3
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Nobody died at Sandy Hook!!

http://rense.com/general96/nobodydied.html

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 03:25 | 6851940 sun tzu
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Make the White House and Capitol building a gun-free zone first. Disarm 0bozo's SS since guns are so dangerous.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:03 | 6850652 nnnnnn
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i accept "enough is enough."  he should resign as a president

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:47 | 6850820 Kirk2NCC1701
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And if "Black Lives Matter", he should tell Blacks to stop shooting each other like there's no Tomorrow.

I thought that this guy was a Community Organ-izer, in Chicago, of all places.  You'd think that he could organize "Blacks Stop Killing Blacks" in the inner cities (or whatever they say in Ebonics these days, which I can imagine, but can't say on ZH).  Can't even organize that?  Can he organize a Turkish Steam-bath?  Probably, I'd guess.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:30 | 6850945 847328_3527
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He'd like nothing better then to take all the guns away from law-abiding citizens so the thugs can go even more wild:

 

http://news.yahoo.com/2-charged-pastors-wife-killing-little-court-154327...

 

http://news.yahoo.com/video/homeless-vet-dies-beating-teens-193502019.html

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:04 | 6850656 buzzsaw99
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OWEBOMBA!!

you can't bomb orphanages and hospitals, only WE can do that!!

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:52 | 6850832 OregonGrown
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"TURKEY, YOU DIDNT BOMB THAT!"

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:04 | 6850661 I AM SULLY
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President Obama is that anal filth that will poison our future and usher in the vile and swarthy masses of mongrel beings.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:24 | 6850735 Dinero D. Profit
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Is swarthy a semite?

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:29 | 6850756 I AM SULLY
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That's the kind of question a swarthy person would ask ...

(hmm ...)

"SEIZE HIM!"

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:05 | 6850668 Sanity Bear
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That Obama got so instantly involved in this just screams false flag.

 

Mass corp media coverage + politicians making strong statements about the incident before they could possibly have all the facts analyzed by the bureaucracies on which they rely makes my spider sense tingle.

 

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:09 | 6850677 economessed
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Obama - the community organizer and constitutional scholar who has personally done more to work against the constitution he took an oath to uphold?  That guy?  Let's impeach him -- enough is enough.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:09 | 6850681 stant
stant's picture

He would take our guns and give them to his hoards to kill us

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:40 | 6850792 Occams_Chainsaw
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Fast and Furious much?

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:09 | 6850682 alexcojones
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Take Guns away from Obama's Drone Operators?

Wedding parties ARE LESS sacred than Planned Parenthood?

GOOOOOOOOO PUTINNNNNNN

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:10 | 6850683 RopeADope
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We need stricter background checks and psych exams of Presidents.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:14 | 6850699 Son of Captain Nemo
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To your "outrage" Mr. President I give you this!

Please make every effort for the CIA's "pet" to allow this 426 page pdf get read by those that wish to protect their God given right under the 2nd to protect themselves from "YOU"!!!!

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:15 | 6850703 Arrowshot
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Come and get it you panywaisted pice of shyte. Obama is only fit to suck the syphalitic sores on Reggies well fucked HIV-infected ass!

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 19:47 | 6850996 Cornfedbloodstool
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Poetry lmao!

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:18 | 6850704 I AM SULLY
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Oh, what anal monkeys come forth from Gimbus? - it is that anal-demon that slouches towards Chicago.

Butt-monkey cardinals will rule the bloody stool of our imperial piss-cum.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:16 | 6850705 FreeShitter
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"enough is a enough" is there an NWO card for that?

 

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:21 | 6850724 mbutler101
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Yes there is an "Enough Is Enough" Illuminati card...I'm sure that's just a coincidence ;)

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:59 | 6850861 scintillator9
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Here is a site to view many of the cards, and keep in mind that this "game" came out ca. 1995

https://usahitman.com/eicgc/#prettyPhoto

Enough is enough card

Gun Control Card

and just for fun

Market Manipulation card

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:18 | 6850712 VWAndy
VWAndy's picture

This from a guy thats been,,,

 Just wow.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:23 | 6850720 rejected
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ummmm. Most love the Constitutions second amendment, the rest of the Constitution, not so much.

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:20 | 6850722 I AM SULLY
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And she approached him, from behind, grabbing his throbbing cock - "honey, this feels hard and smooth".

Sat, 11/28/2015 - 18:24 | 6850732 Spiritof42
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Now if only Obama applied that logic to the military.

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