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Russia Retaliates: Putin Reveals Sanctions Against Turkey
While many in The West had hoped for a "see, we told you so" strongman military response from Vladimir Putin, it appears the Russian leader has, for now, taken a more practical approach. The wide-ranging sanctions unleashed on Turkey (by its 2nd largest trade partner) include a ban on Turkish workers (with estimates that 90,000 will be fired by Jan 1 2016), restrictions on imported goods and services provided by Turkey, and scraps visa-free travel and bans charter flights (implicitly hurting a major part of Turkey's domestic industry). Finally, Putin calls for "strengthening of port control and monitoring to ensure transport safety," hinting at the fears many have voiced over whether Turkey shutting the Bosphorous in an escalation would be seen as an act of war.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree "On measures to ensure Russian national security and to protect Russian citizens from criminal and other unlawful actions and the application of special economic measures with respect to the Turkish Republic," the Kremlin press office said on Saturday.
The decree introduces temporary ban or restrictions on import by Russia of certain types of goods, whose country of origin is Turkey, which are stipulated in the list determined by the Russian government (except the good imported for personal use in an amount permitted by the law of the Eurasian Economic Union).
The decree also bans or restricts organizations, which fall under the Turkish jurisdiction, from providing certain types of services in Russia, which are stipulated in the list determined by the Russian government.
In addition, employers and contractors of services which are not stipulated in the list determined by the Russian government, are banned, starting from January 1, 2016, from employing Turkish citizens who were not employed or contracted by such employers and contractors as at December 31, 2015.
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Here's why this will hurt Turkey (and its now non-independent central bank)...
Full Kremlin statement of actions...
The decree on measures to ensure Russia's national security and protection of Russian citizens from criminal and other illegal activities and the application of special economic measures against Turkey
Vladimir Putin signed a decree "On measures to ensure the national security of the Russian Federation and the protection of Russian citizens from criminal and other illegal activities and the use of special economic measures against the Republic of Turkey."
November 28th, 2015 20:15
The text of the document:
In order to protect national security and national interests of the Russian Federation to protect Russian citizens from criminal and other illegal acts, and in accordance with the federal law of 30 December 2006 ? 281-FZ "On special economic measures" and on 28 December 2010 ? 390-FZ "On security" decree:
1. The authorities of the Russian Federation, federal government agencies, local authorities, legal entities, formed under the laws of the Russian Federation, organizations and individuals under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation, in its work to proceed from the fact that in the Russian Federation input time:
a) prohibition or restriction of foreign economic operations involving import into the Russian Federation of certain goods whose country of origin is the Republic of Turkey, on a list established by the Government of the Russian Federation (except for goods imported for personal use to the extent permitted by law of the Eurasian Economic Union);
b) the prohibition or restriction for organizations under the jurisdiction of the Republic of Turkey on the implementation of (provision) of certain types of work (services) in the territory of the Russian Federation on a list established by the Government of the Russian Federation;
c) prohibition for employers, customers of works (services) are not included in the list determined by the Government of the Russian Federation, to attract to January 1, 2016 in order to work, works (services) of workers citizens of the Republic of Turkey who are not labor and (or) civil-legal relations with these employers, customers of works (services) as of December 31, 2015
2. Pause from 1 January 2016 in accordance with the Federal Law of July 15, 1995 ? 101-FZ "On international treaties of the Russian Federation", and paragraph 1 of Article 10 of the Agreement between the Government of the Russian Federation and the Government of the Republic of Turkey on the terms of mutual trips of citizens the Russian Federation and citizens of the Republic of Turkey on May 12, 2010 action of the Agreement in respect of the journeys undertaken by citizens of the Turkish Republic, which are the owners of foreign passport, except citizens of the Republic of Turkey, who have a temporary residence permit or a residence permit on the territory of the Russian Federation and citizens of the Republic of Turkey sent to work in diplomatic missions and consular offices of the Republic of Turkey on the territory of the Russian Federation in possession of valid official and special passports, and their families.
3. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation in the established order the Republic of Turkey to send a notice of partial suspension of the Agreement, named in paragraph 2 of this Decree.
4. To establish that the tour operators and travel agents should refrain from implementing the citizens of the Russian Federation of the tourist product, include a visit to the Turkish Republic.
5. The Government of the Russian Federation:
a) define lists of goods, works (services) provided by subparagraphs "a" and "b" of paragraph 1 of this Decree;
b) to determine the list of employers, customers of works (services) provided by subparagraph "c" of paragraph 1 of this Decree;
c) to define the list of contracts concluded with organizations under the jurisdiction of the Republic of Turkey for the supply of goods (works, services) in respect of which special economic measures provided for in this Decree shall not apply;
d) adopt measures for the following:
- a ban on charter air transportation between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Turkey;
- strengthening of control over the activities of the Turkish road transport on the territory of the Russian Federation in order to ensure safety;
- strengthening of port control and monitoring to ensure transport safety Russian waters of sea ports in the Black Sea region, including the prevention of illegal residence and movement, and other marine vessels in the waters of Russian sea ports;
e) if necessary, make proposals to amend the period of validity or the nature of the special economic and other measures provided for by this Decree.
6. This Decree shall enter into force on the date of its publication and is valid until they cancel the special economic and other measures.
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@ evokanivo
BRAVO!
The vast populace should be ruled by the elites.
Most Americans given the data to make informed decisions are still too stupid or religious.
They have been ruled, will be ruled and put down as needed.
My guess is that you are a Brit. Right?
Jack, generally agree with your comment but if you think Reagan was approved by the establishment, you either weren't around at the time or weren't paying attention.
Reagan was actively opposed and disparaged by the establishment and media at the time, as much as Trump. He was called a cowboy who would trigger a nuclear war. The MSM and establishment of the day had basically accepted that the USSR would triumph and were horrified at Reagan's proposal to rebuild US military strength with the intention of seeing off the USSR. But after Carter, much of the public loved it.
That charming carpet bagging family from Connecticut connect to the See Eye Aye hated Reagan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO2_49TycdE
So then they tried to whack him. the 'distrubed" shooter was the son of a friend of Poppy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoZeZprXnDg
when that did not work they slipped him a See eye aye prion and claimed he had Alzheimers. Remember the Reagan amnesty? I think that was really Poppy Bush doing an amnesty.
The Turkish peoples are greasy, swarthy, lying and cheating types ...
(they cannot be trusted)
(what good are they to history?)
Do you like them otherwise ?
Other than that, yes ...
I guessed correctly when I wrote yesterday: "I think that Russian response in this case will be more of economic in nature, hitting oil trade between ISIS and Turkey and banning Turkish imports."
Yes you did. This hurts the Jurks moar than shooting down 1 or 2 jets.
Of course, that coul also happen.
Ha Ha, imagine the Jurkish businessmen now pissed at Ergo-Goat.
If the turkeys fly too close the the Russians they will get plucked and stuffed.... or we will learn that Russian hardware is garbage. One or the other.
I've heard about "Russian trash" before the war in Vietnam.
In the skies of Vietnam, the "Russian trash" kick ass the US Air Force, with a score of almost 2 to 1. This statistic dogfighting that "?? high-tech" shamefully lost the "Russian debris" in the sky of Vietnam.
Golf clap
Sanctions always take place prior to military.
What you thought he would blow turkey up and then ban imports????
I wouldn't apply for MIT just yet.
This step was de facto.
In a heated situation, stating the obvious is sometimes the smartest thing to do.
It's fairly clear to me now that this was simply a giant mistake made by Ergodan.
It's shaping up that the Washington Harebrains, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the U.A.E., Israel, Turkey, and their Phony "Islamic State" have have a project to control the Middle East and Northern Africa.
And Russia, China, and Iran view this as an existential threat.
So now we have a huge scary mess. The people who have been attacked will suffer the pain, and the "American People" will be the ones to pay the bill.
Psychos are now called our "leaders". These psychos always need to "win". And they now have us too frightened to protest.
It has all the makings of a religious Apocalypse.
I think you jump to conclusions. The US has long wanted to remove Erdogan, for his tricks with exchanges of oil to gold and vice versa.
Washington does not forgive anyone trying to get away from the US dollar.
Washington has not been able to remove Erdogan, with the help of a color revolution.
But a black mark for Erdogan remained in force.
For this reason Washington Framed Erdogan as the main culprit in this dirty story.
After some time, Erdogan will be overthrown. After that, Washington will put in place the leader of Turkey, a new US puppet. This is be a new Bin Laden from the camp of the most radical Islamists.
You may be right, that that´s the plan.
But there is this thing. When plans meet reality.
I can' help but notice that every post has at least one negative. I love it when we piss off the trolls. Looks like the work of one person.
Maybe it's because your comments suck.
Getting a pile of "ups" on is web site is about as valuable as getting applause at an alien convention for insightful speaking.
Four, by time I got here.
Some of the downvotes lately are SO lame it has to be a mal-programmed bot ... or trolls suffering/enjoying the side effects of captagone.
Ukraine is about the start its seventh compulsory conscription process. That is total desperation. The equivalent for the Anglo-Zionists was to call in the Baltic Potatoheads.
I do hope the phantom downvoter is experiencing an enormous sense of achievement and personal satisfaction, it would a total waste of time otherwise.
EDIT: Knew you couldn't resist that one, lol.
You are that bestial scum that masquerades as a human when in fact you are just some scuzzy beast of the jungle with its hair shaved off and shit.
Better yet, charge them double.
Da trolls are on the loose.
anti-ship supersonic Klubs in Sochi and Sevastopol makes Turkey north coast inoperable for navy, and Iskanders in Crimea eyeing Ankara, thats why there is so much buzz about Crimea
I would also sanction every US official and contractor involved in the shootdown.
Lockheed Martin (including senior executives) - F-16
Raytheon: the missile
Northrop Grumman: the radar
etc, etc
"Dipshit" Barack Obama (and his wife Chewie)
"Diamond" Joe Biden
"Nuclear" Ash Carter, SECDEF
Whoever the fuck runs DoD foreign military sales
Majority and Minority leaders of the Armed Service Committees
It's not like these people are dying to go to Russia so it is pretty pointless.
Tick, Tock......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...
Sounds bad for turkey but it isn't
Markets will absorb in the west and Europe turkeys goods, and Russia will go without as it has been.
Russia is only shrinking its market share these last few years making it beholden to China more and more.
Short term pain for turkey will result in better markets for them. Whereas Russia becomes more isolated in a world where isolation only brings economic starvation.
Russia shrinks, again.
Russia either resists or puts on the NWO ankle bracelet...
NWO is playing for all the marbles now...the Prize IS Russian 'compliance'
Sure, i already see these new adventurous tourists in Turkey who want the extra sunrays in a country in the crosshairs of Russia.
You are that scum-poo discussed throughout history as that diseased tidal wave of putrid and disgusting human waste and pitiable bestiality.
The dumb turks have enabled putin to play a card that would have been seen as aggressive. He has now deployed the S400s to protect his jets which also creates the ability to have a no fly zone. Anything that flys for 250 miles around the S400 will be tracked.
Yep, turks got nothing now. Esentially a no fly zone for turkish aircraft, huge economic calamity coming up, and the rat line of arms and oil with ISIS is being decimated. Erfodan of course is a mad man and sees none of this as bothersome. NATO will walk away from him this coming week.
Like in the U-boat movies. Ping... ping...
Constantinople just needs a good cleaning and a new paint job and she will be ready to go.
All Bulgarians should stop traveling to Turkey.
All Bulgarians should stop buying Turkish products.
Turkey must learn that suuporting terrorism, murder and barbarity does not pay.
(Bulgarians should learn to read first ...)
(and use the toilet)
Bulgarians should stop having unprotected anal sex with goats.
Turkey shot the plane down to get a reaction from Russia - which they are gettin.
The dickheads on this website who think the Turks couldn't see the next steps are the real idiots - like leaders or not, calling them idiots just really shows how stupid you are.
A sign of your intelligence is to figure out why e USA, Europe and turkey wanted Russia's reaction and what happens next.
None of you on here are qualified to play chess with a 3 year old.
Stop looking backwards and think forward - fuck, wars are won by planning not reacting blow for blow.
Figure out why turkey Europe and the United States wanted this reaction and perhaps you'll show some
And NO I will not turn off auto spell correct.
Fuck...you are morons!!!
Lol
No one shoots a plane down of a nuclear power without thoroughly knowing what they are doing.
To think otherwise is to simply require the suspension of your brain.
These leaders get to be leaders because they are usually ruthless and intelligent. Thinking otherwise really shows stupidity.
You are representative of those buggered hordes whose general scumminess is indicative of a filthy sweltering hole from which a general butt-monkey like you arises.
You spew your ignorance so clearly.
Hate what people do, but to call them stupid when they are running countries and economies of scale...well your just like the scum down in the west end who call everyone fools while they await their next social welfare payment.
You are that ancient stool sample that slowly oozes its way down the broken sphincter of those horrid races of semi-peoples from around the Bosporus and crap.
As reactionary as your responces are they always seems to bring a smile to my face.
I lol'd at your ranting, but you'll get no argument for the point you're making. It is a little shortsighted to think the former head of the KGB doesn't own at least one copy of Sun Tzu. The West can't respond to this without revealing their scheming or starting a war eiher. Oh what tangled webs we weave.
Putin was NEVER the head of the KGB.
He is now (okay, it's functional equivalent, the FSB).
Sorry, you're absolutely right. I should have said 'senior officer within the KGB'.
These leaders get to be leaders because they are usually ruthless and intelligent. Thinking otherwise really shows stupidity.
In a way you are right. It takes a combination of high IQ and ruthlessness to destroy on they scale they do without a tinge of guilt. They are highly competent destroyers.
No one controls ergodan. He's mad.
translation: "I know what's going on and you morons don't, nyeah! I am Wile E. Coyote! GENIUS!!"
just fuck off
They want the Bear to retaliate? They want WW3? Well then we are fucked, so you might as well turn off auto correct.
You are one of those swarthy beasts covered in the greases and oils of ancient turpitude and general scum-baginess of your clan ... Stan.
So tell us, genius. What's the master plan then?
Force NATO countries to entirely abandon Russia's goods and services forcing them to use China as a means of servicing Russia's needs.
Have China integrated into the world finance network so that it can not exist without Europe and the United States economy.
Utilize the Middle East as a supply chain of resource.
Force the citizens of China and Russia to rebel and force change in the countries to topple their governments.
Isolate South America economically so it's resources are owned and controlled by western powers.
Once this is all achieved destroy the economies of China forcing its citizens into Russia, India and Pakistan into a war. Allow nukes to be used in an exchange there but not to involve the west.
Permanently turn Asia into a factory while extending the wealth of the west into Eastern Europe and middle Latin America.
Rebuild Asia from the ruins with the elimination of religion and governments and hold as random resources, oil , food and water.
Reorganize the world finances under one roof controlled entirely by the United States.
Disarm all other nuclear powers.
1000 years of peace will follow
That kind of peace most people don´t want. But you are good in ironic mode, if so.
And, as i am from Germany, i can tell you that 1000 years (Reich or peace) are not that long in reality.
Simplified Brzezinskyfktyum playbook. Syria metaphorically occupying E5 space in the chessboard. The plan is not workable as has been demonstrated of late.
That chessboard is tilting since 2008. Georgia.
Force NATO countries to entirely abandon Russia's goods and services forcing them to use China as a means of servicing Russia's needs.
Notice how every idea requires an escalation in military aggression. This kid parrots what he reads and hears in the MSM.
Here's a tip kid. It is for thinking like that why the USSA is in the process of collapse. Russia and China along with their growing list of allies smell the blood.
All great thrusts by man and society involve violence and war.
The best advances are made in the ashes of the previous.
Not since recorded history has a portion of civilization taken leaps without war or violence. The threat of death provides humans with incentive to adapt and grow.
That's how psychopaths think. Now I understand where you are coming from.
"All great thrusts by man and society involve violence and war."
Of course! But the war against Russia, it will be the last war in the short history of the United States. Amen!
1. Collect underpants
2. ???
3. Profit!
"""Force NATO countries"" to entirely abandon Russia's goods and services ""forcing them"" to use China [...]"
I'm so pleased to see that democracy and sovereignty is alive and well inside NATO members. NOT.
And for your next trick ............??
"1000 years of peace will follow"
One could easily argue that this would occur if the opposite scenario played out to the one you predict. After all, it is the Washington criminals who have been at war virtually non-stop since the end of WWII.
Alert the media! Contact Barry O and Zbig! Some random asshole talking out of his ass on ZH has reached Nirvana!
"Allow nukes to be exchanged"
Hey asshole, you think once that genie gets out of the bottle someone will wave his magic wand and stop at just several hundred? What are you, 12?
That is one stupid plan of some arrogant assholes.
There is a list of countries that can be completely self sufficient and Russia is one of them.
In South America, Brazil and Argentina and Peru are also in that same club.
"Force NATO countries to entirely abandon Russia's goods and services forcing them to use China as a means of servicing Russia's needs." >> that could indeed be their intention, but today there is whole BRICS block + many other countries Russia can rely on.
"Have China integrated into the world finance network so that it can not exist without Europe and the United States economy." >> Have you been sleeping? Last time I checked China was into forming its own finance network and they already have a lot of countries signed in already.
"Utilize the Middle East as a supply chain of resource" >> and drain it very quickly if whole west get from single source.
"Isolate South America economically so it's resources are owned and controlled by western powers." >> It cant be done IMO, BRICS are already in place and cooperating closer every passing day. SA will only find more trade opportunities as time pass.
"Once this is all achieved destroy the economies of China forcing its citizens into Russia, India and Pakistan into a war." >> destroy how? Last time I checked US economic and sanctions influence on the world weaken every passing day.
"Rebuild Asia from the ruins with the elimination of religion..." >> lol ;) So Buddhism is in their way didnt know that ;)).
"Reorganize the world finances under one roof controlled entirely by the United States." >> good one ;) but again, US influence will only weaken not strengthen over time. Also so far every world reserve currency collapsed after time in history.
"Disarm all other nuclear powers." >> right ;). I am pretty sure at least Russia will rather wipe out the whole world with them than giving away anything.
"1000 years of peace will follow" >> ok now you are really naive, I smell religion retardation
That's got to be the biggest pile of Unicorn shit I've ever read, and that's saying something (I read 'Teh fin's posts)
I think that your idol - it is McCain. Because you're just dumb as he is.
You can not even distinguish between "1000 Years of Peace" from "1000 years of slavery."
Only a very stupid person may think that Russia will not use nuclear weapons if there is a real threat to the existence of Russia as a sovereign state. You should read the Russian military doctrine. Although I do not think it will make you smart.
Give it a rest, Turk.
No fly zone. Check.
No isis infrastructure. Check.
No economy. Check.
No currency. Check.
No naval movement. Check.
No credibility. Check.
No NATO support. Check.
Your guy is a butt boy for the Russians.
The best one is Putin, Russia and Syria have shut down ISIS - Erdogan Jr's oil business.
Hopefully, Hezbollah is also getting some of that blowing up Erdogan-ISIS-See Eye Aye-Moose-ad oil trucks action.
The dickheads on this website who think the Turks couldn't see the next steps are the real idiots - like leaders or not, calling them idiots just really shows how stupid you are.
Are you trying to tell us Erdogan wanted to sell out ISIS to the Russians?
Every destroyed vehcile, every rig will be replaced.
Assisting and destroying ISIL is profitable.
If anyone was actually interested in destroying ISIl they would drop leaflets informing the populace to throw them out or they will fire upon the dam.
It's the dam that gives ISIL power, not the oil.
Citizens will go along with a plan in favor of worse case scenarios until they believe there is worse than the occupation. If they really believed that dam would be destroyed, effectively sentencing them to failed crops, no power and death, they would rebel.
Even Russia nor the USA could consider such an act, but a rebel force could.
I will consider these players ruthless when I see ruthless action being taken. Right now it's a sideshow and doesn't qualify as anything except a scuffle.
You are that scum-dung that clings to the butt-zone of a greasy, swarthy, animal.
Every destroyed vehcile, every rig will be replaced.
Every replaced vehcile, every rig will be destroyed.
LOL
Your posts give you away. If you aren't an NWO shill, I don't know who is. Let me guess. You are sitting on your fat ass in some darkly lit brick building somewhere around Washington DC, no doubt employed by some ABC agency, making $7.00/hour to post this shit. Because if you are not, you should really go nail gun yourself to death. No one can be as much of an asshole as you and achive anything more than fortuitous mediocracy.
7 an hour!!!
I get $35 per hour plus benefits for writing on this blog!
This is just my moonlight gig. Daytime, I'm NSA (free Mountain Dew!) and get to keep everything I make from seeing all that insider information even before the intended recipient gets their hands on it. Once in a while, just for fun, I change a few digits in the message and watch them shriek like little girls when the market goes the other way.
But here it's a labor of love even if I do make a few shekels on the side. You see, I get a nice check from the Kremlin for posting. Much cheaper to pay me well and let all the indignant true believers donate their time for free. Got a signed photo of their Glorious Leader right here on the desk and an invitation to use the mid-level dacha whenever he's out of town. Now you guys get back to work.
(Unpaid) Workers of the world, unite!
@ tarabel
I did not understand exactly what you want to say. But just in case, I put to you minus. Out of habit. LOLI get $35 per hour plus benefits for writing on this blog!
It's very sad that you can not afford to buy with the money, though a little bit of reason and conscience.Kremlin said that closing of Bosphorous would be an "apocalyptic scenario". I don't know how much more clearly it can be said "Nuke Turkey scenario".
Not necessary. Just use the FOAB.
That would let NATO know that Russia is serious and will not mess around, about having complete Freedom and Control in its Sphere of Influence and Operational Theater.
Adapt to this reality, or die. Besides, we ALL know that when push comes to shove, that Israel will be one of the first targets to be toasted from top to bottom. And the Rottenchild Ziocons love Tel Aviv, London, Paris, NY and LA too much to take it to D-Day level. That's why they call it M.A.D (Mutually Assured Destruction): cause it's totally effin mad, mad, mad. Only Lucifer of ETs would be left to enjoy the view of man's ultimate folly.
The Russian army has a vacuum bombs. It's like a tactical nuclear bombs, but without the radiation. It is very powerful weapon. This is the most powerful weapon in the world without a nuclear warhead. I think that soon we will be able to see this.
By the way, that will make NATO if one morning, the newspapers will write: "Tonight, for 40 minutes, Russian army destroyed four the aircraft carrier US".
Which in this case will be the actions of NATO, except a three-day mourning?
now warming up in my comment bullpen
"Well,That Escalated Quickly"
I am rooting for Russia on this one as an American. One thing is for sure the elite Zionist/Banksters and Jewamerica Have a plan.. The Plan A is let's start these wars and kill lots of children and if we don't get are way plan B more proxy Wars for Israeli lobbyist ONLY interest.. Sounds to me like a bunch of fucking gypsies in a room negotiating on our lives .. Those are throws of a dying empire. Henry ford said it best.. If the American people knew the truth on how the system REALLY works there will be a revolution the next day..
More like let's create a war tax in the form of negative interest rates on checking and savings acounts.
Putin is philo-Semitic controlled opposition. Go ahead, look into who he received approval from while mayor of St. Petersburg.
Erdogan hates everyboy except ISIS.
Turkey , is nothing more than a crack-den , in a good location , waiting for a eminent domain clause , by " X " .
As usual, the people are made to suffer for the sins of their leaders.
“The decree introduces temporary ban or restrictions on import by Russia of certain types of goods, whose country of origin is Turkey…”
Well, it is a better response than a military one.
But it falls well short of a more productive reaction.
Instead of a “ban or restrictions” on the importation of goods or labor, the response should have been an excise tax of 5% to 10%.
With such a relatively small excise, it would have been difficult or impossible for Turkish firms to raise their prices for fear of losing market share to competitors; and most Turks employed in Russia would remain at their jobs.
This would have kept the goods and foreign labor in place; brought cash into the Russian government; taken cash from the Turkish government; and prevented many inconveniences to be suffered by Russians.
But we should not expect such from modern-day politicians; for, it would have been based on a long-forgotten principle: the imposition of taxes on those who make them necessary: one of the reforms I suggest in my book, The Lost Right, edition 3.5.
And we should trust that Turkish beast that feeds on its own young and throws its elderly off of the cliffs into the Bosporus?
Turkish liars and cheats prove they are no better than that human waste which streams into Europe and murdered the pope.
The world is better off with no pope.
We all know this to be true.
You are the excremental king of the sewer hole that the wastes of humanity inhabit with their puss and blood and boils and goop.
The pope has represented a religion that has killed more than any other in modern times. Not to mention child rape and extortion.
You are the anal magic lubricating the decline of human existence.
I iust wait a few days after that cowards act.
WHY?
I just waited for this kind of news to appears.
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By now you know that one of the pilot died shooting by some militia men (turksmen) in that area, right? Well... this is what happened to that turksmen:
https://www.rt.com/news/323578-su24-search-terrorists-killed/
You don't think Russia will let them LIVE, after killing Russian citizen, do you??
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And this news:
https://www.rt.com/news/323538-turkey-convoy-syria-attack/
You don't think Russia will let erdogan to continue arming ISIS, after that turkey's cowards act, do you?
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And you do know, that US stops flying in Syria skies, after that S-400 battalion's activated in Latakia, don't you?
https://www.rt.com/news/323815-syria-s-400-us-airstrikes/
Let see if erdogan AF still wants to sends their "air assets" across syrian's borders.
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I don't comments rushly on the Su-24 incidents, cause i knew.
The Russian retaliations will be more severe & calculated.
There are no enemies more dangerous, then the one that posses cold heads. Cause that enemy? Will serves revenge in colds..
Imagine if a cruise missile hit the Ka'aba ...
That would start a war that would settle the matter.
There are two aspects of history that always repeat themselves....war and peace. At the moment we are hovering somewhere between the two.
Let's hope the chess game remains civil lest all the pieces are destroyed.
"the protection of Russian citizens from criminal and other illegal activities"
As for being Russian, I don't know about anybody else but can I have some of that please ... instead of being sold out, treated as a sheep, systematically robbed, all the false flags and bankster wars, my own people being slaughtered by nutters the government actually creates through all the actions mentioned.
As for being American, I don't know about anybody else but can I have some of that please ... instead of being sold out, treated as a sheep, systematically robbed, all the false flags and bankster wars, my own people being slaughtered by nutters the government actually creates through all the actions mentioned.
Turkish, go home!
Many Germans dream saying this for decades!
hehe
I still reckon Putin should give all the battlefield commanders the right to use strategic weapons so can launch a single nuke.
After that if turkey does it again or anything similar you just got wasted... oooops. Big mushroom cloud over Turkish resources.
Then Putin can say, I gave them the right to use 1 nuke so you might refrain from shooting us in the back.
US response, not alot you can do except go all in on the MAD scenario. You can launch a nuke or 2 if you want won't be none of your ISIS friendly rebels left though.
Reckon that would send bigger shockwaves and really that is DEFCON 1 no pussyfooting around.
These sanctions are just a slap on the wrist because Vlad knows that Turkey took the blame, but didn't do it >> https://goo.gl/qazI3V
What is this BullShittism Institute you keep linking to?
Here you see the difference between Russian and US leaders.
The former are not driven by the news cycle. They don't shout threats, they take the time to make a considered decision and then stick with it.
US political leaders (like most in the west) are full of puffery to capture the news cycle, it is careless, ill thoughtout except to get them through the next news cycle, and then there is no coherent, systematic planning to follow up, so nothing effective is done. It is a rolling series of pronouncements and erratic actions, so they not only stumble from one crisis to another but cause one crisis after another.
Good to see that Putin can hit Turkey where it hurts... in the money. This does imply that Russia has power. Good decision! Also, I'm certain Russia will smell better without the Turkish workforce and tourists.
When the other shoe drops, the NATO invented IS better watch the fuck out.
At a casual glance, these seem like tough measures that ought to convince the credulous that he is really pounding Turkey for its perfidy.
But, assuming I understand this semi-translation correctly, a number of questions about all the loopholes arise.
1) First off, I have to ask why there are so many Turks working in Russia in the first place. Are these jobs that Americans, er um Russians, won't do?
2) If I understand this correctly, those Turks already in Russia and possessing valid labor cards are not going anywhere. The aristocracy needs their below-market-value maids, butlers, and landscapers even in Russia, so they are all exempt from the get-go.
3) Next, all those low-cost-basis Turks that are working various industrial or construction jobs seem to be exempt as well.
4) The ban on Turkish contractors is mere window-dressing. Any contracts held by Turkish companies will be hastily transferred over to quickly-built Russian front operations and the work will proceed. But, once again, I have to wonder why Russia has Turkey building ANYTHING inside that land of supreme happiness and engineering wizardry.
5) Since the actual ban only applies to new hires made after 12/31/15, I am assuming that the bribe factory over at the Labor Ministry is going to be burning the midnight oil and looking forward to a very happy new year after rushing through several million new applications between now and then. Hope they have a goodly supply of rubber stamps and ink on hand.
6) The ban on Turkish goods sounds serious except for the exemption about goods used for personal consumption. Don't know what Turkey exports to Russia, but it sounds like its a backdoor for EU wines, cheeses, and suchlike goods that will continue to flow to the apparatchiks dinner tables unimpeded.
7) The ban on Russian proletarian tourism (via charter flight) but not oligarch travel (via private plane or jetliner) in Turkey will help Russia with its FX drain almost as much as it harms Turkey's hotel industry, so I can see why this particular form of retaliation was applied. Get all the proles down to the Crimean beaches since they are no longer allowed to go to the destination of their actual choice, and slow their unpatriotic exchange of rubles for lira.
8) No ban on Russian sales of gas to Turkey also makes sense. The oligarchs would not like it very much if this one thing that could really sock it to Turkey were to be used as a weapon. Their bottom line is too fragile and Russia needs the FX too much to do this.
In short, this is the same sort of cynical, slippery, feel-good PR crap that Obama would offer were he in the same position, and his controlled media would be offering up the same sort of rigorously fawning analysis to cover his bare naked effrontery. Protect your oligarchs first. Push more business their way by blocking low-cost tourist destinations that compete with their newly-planned Crimean resort complexes. Keep the oligarchs domestic staffs safe and keep their tables stocked with forbidden delicacies. Keep their bloated construction contracts with the State humming along on the backs of cheap Turkish labor even while poor Ivan Doeski takes it in the shorts yet believes that this is all being done to help him.
One more thing: Look at all the Russo-trolls yapping about how Erdogan BETTER NOT CLOSE THE BOSPHORUS or else he deserves to get nuked. And, PS, Russia doesn't really need this access anyhow. These days, there's only one country that keeps bellowing about how it would be justified in using nuclear weapons on people who piss it off. But, since these guys keep pinky-swearing that the Bosphorus is not a big deal for Russian commerce or military movements, why are they so proactively declaiming that it is an absolute red line event if it happens?
Putin, Obama, Erdogan. Po-ta-to, po-tah-to, tater tots. All the same ingredients and using the same time-tested recipe of throwing dust in the eyes of simpletons.
Agree with much of that. But your comment on 6 misses the intent. The 'for personal consumption' means stuff a person is carrying when they arrive in Russia, not a class of imports. This is a normal phrase in customs documents in Europe.
The key here is that something seems to be being done on a wide front. OK a lot of it could be regarded as window dressing but it has been thought out. The tourist aspect will hurt as Russians are the second largest after Germany. Also there will almost certainly be a consumer boycott of Turkish products. The brand names were in the press the day after the shoot down. That will hurt too.
Russia really does need the Bosporus to supply Syria, the alternatives are horrific in terms of cost and time. Perhaps those who wanted this to happen thought that Russia would respond in such a way that Turkey would close it. A bit like expecting overt Russian action in Ukraine. Clearly slow learners.
I concur with your point about the personal consumption and that is why I tried to point out that the goods will continue to flow (via courier) to the wealthy who can afford to pay for people to shuttle small quantities into the country as opposed to those which are dependent on the regular markets, who will be totally cut off from such goods due to the presence of a middleman importer. The constraints of an already overlong post did not permit me to expand the concept to its truly necessary length.
The bottom line is that the aristocracy sacrifices nothing in their business or personal lives, while the ordinary Russian (and Turk) bears the brunt of this campaign. The poor underpaid Turkish worker in Russia is now doubly at risk. One disagreement with his patron and out he will go. No opportunity to find another job. Industrial semi-serfdom is making a comeback everywhere (including most so-called civilized societies)
I certainly recognize that there are times when societies need to make sacrifices for the common good-- but the society needs to go forward together and everybody needs to pay a price for that solidarity. This decree is clearly engineered to shield important interests from any sort of real pain.
Meh.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
http://leaksource.info/2015/01/17/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-ir...
Eye on the ball, kidd.
You You are wrong in many counts. I would like to clarify a few.
Turks are not not doing cheap labor. They work in all sectors. Turks also represent a substantial group of investors in Russia. There are many factories owned by Turks. The Russian aristocracy as you call the elite of Russia do not use Turks, but mainly Philippine maids. This is a practice that started only during Yeltsin period and used by Oligargs with money. The real elite of Russia do all work by themselves. Even people at high position do not use maid and proudly care for their own children. The practice of using cheap maids is a western phenomenan started since the time of using african slaves. Russians did not build their nation with slaves.
more lies and bull crap from the Wild...
so the romans, greeks, carthegininans, egyptians, arabs did none of this, it was created in the west, bwahahhahahahaaarg. Your lack of education is showing son.
Looks like Bond just put Spectre in its place again.
Russians can vacate in Crimea now, I hear it's very nice there. Although electricity might be a problem
It is in Putin's interest to have this nastiness going on with Turkey, as it has provided excuse for the establishment of "defensive" ground forces in Syria, which are as good as permanent. The sanction stuff is noise.
I guess all the neocons are s***ing a brick cause this is not how the script was supposed to go.
Illegal (appropriate name btw), and what script might that be? oh you mean the one emanating from the Thin Smoker in the Rainbow House? You mean the islamo-fascist who supports islamic terror? gotcha...those noecons are so scarey.
See it is blind people like you who have allowed this to happen, you not only voted for the manchurian candidate once, but twice, YOU are part of the problem.
Your kind will rue the day when the sleeping giant finally awakens, and will take back power...then we will toss the money changers, political charlitans (progressives, liberals, rinos) from power, remove the alphabet soup agencies and re-start the grand experiemnt.
Turkey needs regime change.
I hope Russian sanctions make the Turkish people do something.
The old devil must suffer
The disease of the earth , darkness started here