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Fourth Turning - Politicians Driving The World Towards War

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Submitted by Jim Quinn via The Burning Platform blog,

In Part 1 of this article I discussed the catalyst spark which ignited this Fourth Turning and the seemingly delayed regeneracy. In Part 2 I pondered possible Grey Champion prophet generation leaders who could arise during the regeneracy. In Part 3 I focused on the economic channel of distress which is likely to be the primary driving force in the next phase of this Crisis. In Part 4 I assessed the social and cultural channels of distress dividing the nation. In Part 5 I’ll examine the technological, ecological, political, and military channels of distress likely to burst forth with the molten ingredients of this Fourth Turning, and finally in Part 6 our rendezvous with destiny, with potential climaxes to this Winter of our discontent.

 

Technological & Ecological Distress

“Technological progress has merely provided us with more efficient means for going backwards.” Aldous Huxley – Ends and Means

The level of distress being produced by technology was probably underestimated by Strauss & Howe when they wrote their book in 1997. The internet, cell phones and e-commerce were still in their infancy, while cyber security was an unknown concept. Huxley would be shocked by how backwards we have “progressed” through the efficient distribution of iGadgets, creating millions of distracted, non-thinking, passive, easily pliable, willfully ignorant sheep who adore their technological servitude.

A vast swath of the populace never reads a book and can’t go more than a few minutes without checking their iGadget to view the latest funny cat video, the latest update on Kim Kardashian’s ass, Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner’s courage, or Lamar Odom’s latest whorehouse escapade. Our country is drowning in a sea of irrelevance as our infinite craving for diversions and triviality overwhelms any thoughts of confronting our oppressors. The adoration of technology has degraded our ability to think and allowed the Deep State to control the masses by amusing them to death.

The totalitarian Orwellian utilization of technology was exposed by a millennial with courage, intelligence, and love of his country – Edward Snowden. His revelations were very distressful to the felonious government apparatchiks who blatantly flaunt their disregard for the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution. The criminals at the NSA, fully supported by Obama and Congress, have made Big Brother look like an amateur, as they siphon up every phone call, text, email, and facebook entry made by each person in this country and for good measure the political leaders of our allies and enemies.

The failure of Americans to be outraged at this traitorous offense against their right to privacy and ludicrous belief that Snowden is a criminal is distressful to the principles of liberty and freedom upon which this country was founded. Sacrificing freedom for security is a false trade-off, as we become less free, less secure, and less responsible for our own lives. The implications of allowing an all-powerful surveillance state to use your private communications against you are far reaching and a dire moment for humanity. The one method left for citizens to communicate without the government able to decipher their messages is encryption. The government is now attempting to gain a backdoor to encryption with the recent terrorist attacks in Paris as their rationale. Every real or imagined threat is used to grow the Deep State.

They have failed thus far in controlling the internet, as it remains the only remaining avenue of free speech and truth, but they will stop at nothing in using the threat of terrorists to capture complete control over all communication outlets. Blaming Snowden for the complete and utter failure of the trillion dollar surveillance state to stop a bunch of amateur terrorists, living in France and using open cell phone communications, from killing 130 people divulges the desperate flailing of spineless incompetent government apparatchiks who are exceedingly good at taking away freedoms and astonishingly awful at ensuring safety and security .

The sophistication and complexity of computers, code, and networks is only exceeded by the brilliance of hackers working on their own, for groups like Anonymous, or on behalf of governmental entities. Cyber-crime, cyber-attacks, cyber-warfare, and cyber-terrorism could be game breakers during this Fourth Turning. The trillions spent on high tech military hardware, aircraft carriers, missile systems, spy satellites, and computer systems could all be for naught if cyber warriors are able to disable these systems with computer code.

Commerce at major retailers has already been disrupted by cyber criminals who have stolen millions of credit card holders’ data. The next world war could be determined by which side can successfully disable satellites and key missile systems of their foes. The hypocrisy of an outraged U.S. government when hackers from China, Russia and Iran hack into government computer systems is comical, as they opened Pandora’s Box by releasing the Stuxnet virus into the Iranian governmental computer systems. You live by the sword and you die by the sword, or in this case the computer virus.

One of the most hyped channels of distress, and the one which humans have the least amount of control due to its complexity, is ecological distress. The extreme rhetoric surrounding the issue of global warming is deafening, and as with many issues during a Fourth Turning, there is no middle ground. The climatologists and scientists who depend upon the government for research grants allow their financial interests to dictate their findings. Whenever someone declares an issue as settled science, you know they are lying and pushing an agenda. Science is never settled. It requires constant questioning and exploration of new data.

When terminology like global warming is proven to be false and scientists are caught faking their data, they just change the terminology to climate change and start over again. No one can argue the climate doesn’t change. It changes every day. Does the burning of fossil fuels impact the environment? I’m sure it does. So does cow flatulence and my breathing. So do the trees outside my window. So does solar activity. So does volcanic activity. The variables affecting our environment are limitless and no computer model can accurately predict the future with any reasonable degree of certainty. If computer models can’t accurately predict the path and intensity of storms within a 48 hour window, how could anyone believe forecasts a decade or two in the future?

The facts do not stop the ideologues like Al Gore and nanny state government drones from declaring their position in-contestable. Anyone who dares challenge their facts, story-line or motivation is declared an ignorant right wing climate change denier. The vehement vitriolic fervor of the venomous environmental justice warriors is reminiscent of the angry pomposity of the bitter social justice warriors with their black lives matter, safe spaces, and feminazi agenda. They believe the louder and angrier they appear, the more likely the passive sheep will quiver and let them have their way.

The goal is always more control, more taxes siphoned from the remaining productive few, and less free and honest debate about the issues. The critical thinking, rational, courageous few who refuse to cower from the malicious meanderings of these climate sociopaths are the last barrier to allowing some world organization to tax and regulate us to death. The absurdity of believing a carbon tax levied on Americans will save the planet is laughable, as China, India, South America, Africa and the rest of the developing world ignore global environmental mandates. The technocrats controlling the developed world need more money to keep their power and dominion over the masses, and climate taxation is their last remaining method.

The planet has enough land mass to easily support the 7 billion existing people. The problem is the people are clustered into urban areas and the existing water and food sources are not distributed evenly among the population groupings. The hatred of free market capitalism in much of the world results in mis-allocation of resources and economic development, leaving large swaths of the planet living in abject poverty and starvation. Extreme poverty and hopelessness leads to the rise of dictators, extremist criminal groups, war and anarchy. Poverty is a driving force, along with Islamic religious extremism for the chaos in the Middle East, exacerbated by U.S. interventionism. As this Fourth Turning intensifies, the poverty, starvation, war and extremism will grow, adding fuel to the global wars.

Just like there is no avoiding the harsh winter gales of a Fourth Turning, there is nothing that can be done to bypass the consequences floods, droughts, water shortages, pandemics, seismic events, tsunamis, solar flares, or other unanticipated ecological events. The climate will change. If a solar flare does significant damage to satellite systems and the electrical grid the pandemonium and helplessness of our energy dependent civilization would be laid bare immediately. A devastating earthquake in California would have far reaching economic consequences to an already bankrupt nation.

The fear during the recent Ebola scare revealed how irrational the masses can act. Imagine the panic which would occur during a real pandemic. The Dust Bowl droughts during the 1930’s exacerbated the already terrible economic conditions. A worsening of the recent droughts in California and Pacific Southwest could have far reaching impacts on food and water supplies. No matter what ecological distress is experienced, the answer from politicians will be more government control, further straining the relationship between the people and their rulers. The people of this country are so divided, there is little chance for compromise solutions. Will this division result in our desolation?

“Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand.” – Matthew 12:25

 

Political Distress

“The average man will permit the oligarch, whether economic or political, to hide his real purposes from the scrutiny of his fellows and to withdraw his activities from effective control. Since it is impossible to count on enough moral goodwill among those who possess irresponsible power to sacrifice it for the good of the whole, it must be destroyed by coercive methods and these will always run the peril of introducing new forms of injustice in place of those abolished.” – Reinhold Niebuhr

The channel encompassing the maximum level of distress at this stage in the Fourth Turning is the political arena. The initial trigger was the 2008 financial collapse, but the political actions prior to and since 2008 have been the driving force behind this ongoing Crisis. Politicians of both parties were bought off by financial interests to repeal the Glass Steagall Act, unleashing Wall Street to go on a ravenous greed driven bacchanal over the next decade, creating the worldwide financial implosion.

The revolving door between Washington DC and Wall Street is self-evident, with Goldman Sachs providing Treasury Secretaries (Rubin, Paulson, Summers), Fed Presidents (Dudley, Harker, Kaplan, Kashkari), and hundreds of other White House and regulatory agency operatives, as they have engineered an infiltration, subversion and silent coup of the Federal government. Goldman was the single largest contributor to Obama’s campaign and is likewise, the largest contributor to Hillary Clinton. They buy off key Congressmen of both parties (McConnell, Schumer). That may explain why not one criminal banker was jailed after the crime of the century in 2008.

The oligarchy controlling the levers of power behind the scenes of our political, economic, and financial systems use their immense wealth, control over the propaganda media outlets, dominion over the regulatory and judicial structures, and legislative authority to siphon off the wealth of the masses, while leaving a withering dying carcass in their wake. The political process has been bastardized as candidates, hand-picked by the vested interests, are sold to an increasingly uninformed and uninterested populace like a bar of soap. They are bought and paid for by special interests before they ever reach Washington. It’s a pay to play system, and the public aren’t playing. The traitorous actions taken by politicians and their banker co-conspirators at the start of this Fourth Turning divulges their true constituency. And it’s not you.

Ben Bernanke and his Goldman cohort Paulson proceeded to save their Wall Street benefactors and throw grandma and the rest of Main Street USA under the bus. They poured trillions of taxpayer funds into the coffers of criminal banks who took excessive risks, committed massive mortgage fraud, and used derivatives of mass destruction to screw clients, pension plans, little old ladies and the country. When public outrage resulted in 90% of Americans coming out against TARP, Congress initially voted it down.

Then Wall Street threw a hissy fit, Bernanke and Paulson lied to the country about the problem and threatened the spineless weasels slithering around the halls of Congress. Congress did as they were told (including presidential candidates Obama and McCain) by their real bosses and passed TARP. Paulson then used it in the opposite manner from which he sold it to the public. ZIRP, QE1, QE2, and QE3 have badly hurt senior citizens, savers, and middle class working families who have seen their real household income fall since 2007.

The congressional approval rating of 11%, down from 40% in 2009, and presidential approval rating of 44%, down from 67% in 2009, reveal the disgust Americans currently have for their politician “leaders”. When the economy is doing well or when confronted with an attack from a foreign threat, the approval ratings of politicians jumps higher. The nonstop decline since 2009 exposes the much touted economic recovery to be a fraud. Average Americans know their standard of living continues to decline, despite the propaganda laden highly manipulated economic data shoveled by the government on a monthly basis. You would have to be brain dead or an Ivy League educated economist to believe the true unemployment rate in this country is 5.1%.

The reason only 25% of Americans think the country is headed in the right direction is because its current economic trajectory is collapse. The Fed can print fiat and enrich their owners, and politicians can promise free shit to voters until the cows come home, but someone will have to pay the bill – and it’s a doozy. With an $18.7 trillion national debt, $200 trillion of unfunded welfare promises, $600 billion to $1 trillion deficits for as far as the eye can see, and no politician with the courage to tell the truth, Americans know deep down in their bones this farce can’t continue. With a rapidly aging population, there is no mathematical possibility those bills can be paid by the younger generations.

The next financial earthquake will be far worse than the initial tremor in 2008, as bubbles in stocks, bonds, and real estate simultaneously pop, and the Fed already zero bound on interest rates. The retribution sought by the masses against those guilty of crimes against the nation could be bloody and swift. Our relatively peaceful society could go off the rails quickly.

With less than a year until the next presidential election, we have the front runners on the Democrat side running on promises of more free shit to their constituents in the form of free college, a $15 minimum wage, equalization of pay for women, free healthcare, and a bevy of other goodies. We’ve got the front runners on the Republican side promising tax cuts, building walls after kicking 10 million illegal immigrants out of the country, repealing Obamacare without offering an alternative, and expanding the war on terrorism.

All the major candidates are itching for war with Russia and China, while promising more spending on the military. All the major candidates will again be on the take from Wall Street. Not one major candidate has any intention of cutting spending or balancing the budget. They know voters will not elect anyone who promises them discomfort, pain, or shared sacrifice. One year from now we are likely to have either a lying, corrupt, criminal, socialist president or a bombastic, pompous blowhard reality TV president. In either case, they will reside in the White House during the most intense and likely bloody phase of the Fourth Turning.

 

Military Distress

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“History offers even more sobering warnings: Armed confrontation usually occurs around the climax of Crisis. If there is confrontation, it is likely to lead to war. This could be any kind of war – class war, sectional war, war against global anarchists or terrorists, or superpower war. If there is war, it is likely to culminate in total war, fought until the losing side has been rendered nil – its will broken, territory taken, and leaders captured.” – Strauss & Howe The Fourth Turning

As we’ve witnessed throughout history, when the ruling class loses control of their domestic situation, economic turmoil ensues, they begin losing the support of the masses, and attempt to retain control by producing a foreign conflict to rally the people around the flag. War serves three vital purposes for the establishment. The politicians in power gain support, as the masses decide it would be unpatriotic to throw the bums out in the midst of a conflict. Secondly, the military industrial complex increases its power, generating obscene profits for its constituent arms dealers. Thirdly, the Wall Street cabal finances the conflicts, reaping more riches, and compensating the politicians waging the wars.

The best wars from a government’s standpoint are wars against concepts – like terror or poverty. They can’t be won, so they go on forever. The government is free to invade or bomb any country they say are housing terrorists. The government can restrict all liberties, freedoms and Constitutional rights in the name of keeping us safe from terrorists. The concept can be utilized any time for any reason, without any proof required by the ruling class. The true terrorists are in Washington DC. They wear suits, hold hearings, give speeches, and accept bribes. These charlatans are terrorizing the world and the citizens of this country with their neo-con ambitions to rule the world.

Linear thinkers expecting technology and human ingenuity to keep our country and the world on a path of progress are badly mistaken. They ignore the obvious escalation of global distress, as history suddenly hurls us towards some cosmic chaos that defies all rational predictive models. To those not blinded by ideology or captured by the vested interests, it is plainly evident the world has become more chaotic and dangerous in the last two years. The initial economic chaos created the atmosphere and political conditions which are now leading inevitably toward global war.

American foreign policy, dictated by neo-cons of both parties, has purposely destabilized the Middle East and the Ukraine in an effort to keep the petro-dollar king and to ensure no regime in the Middle East could challenge Israel. As with most diabolically immoral plans, the unintended consequences will be far worse than the initial outcome. By overthrowing Hussein, Gaddafi, Mubarak, and attempting to overthrow Assad, the U.S. has unleashed thousands of Islamic fanatics and disaffected soldiers from the overthrown regimes to wreak havoc throughout the Middle East and now in Europe. Creating anarchy and chaos in countries previously living in peace under strongmen is blowing up in our faces.

The provocation of Russia by overthrowing the democratically elected president of the Ukraine, and friend of Russia, began the war phase of this Fourth Turning. Putin then annexed Crimea and civil war waged in eastern Ukraine and an airliner was shot down by the Ukrainian government in an effort to blame Putin. The U.S. armed any Muslim willing to fight Assad, in their effort to overthrow his regime and allow Saudi Arabia and Qatar to build a gas pipeline to Europe, further weakening Russia.

The latest terrorist threat to the world – ISIS – was created, funded, and armed by the U.S. The coordinated oversupply of oil had its purpose to destroy the economies of Russia, Iran, Argentina and Venezuela. The unanticipated deepening global recession has produced the unanticipated consequences of damaging the economy of Saudi Arabia, crushing the oil sands industry in Canada – pushing their economy into recession, and revealing the U.S. shale industry to be a debt enabled fraud – now in a slow motion collapse.

The ongoing saber rattling between the U.S. and Russia over Syria and the Ukraine, along with the increasingly provocative actions taken by the U.S., Japan and China over the contested islands in the South China Sea, are setting the stage for a showdown no one anticipates or actually wants. But, psychopathic politicians feel driven to prove their manhood by using their military assets to bully opponents they know cannot fight back. The U.S. and their feeble minded NATO allies were sure they could overthrow Assad, just as they had done with Hussein and Gaddafi, because they have far more firepower and unlimited funds printed by their central bankers.

Putin put a stop to those illusions, as he refused to let his only Mediterranean port fall under U.S. control. When Putin stepped into the Syrian conflict it immediately became apparent the U.S., Turkey, and the rest of NATO had no intention of defeating ISIS, as they allowed them to run refineries, ship oil to Turkey in thousands of tanker trucks and arm themselves with U.S. provided weapons. Continuous never ending conflict is good for American business.

Even though the latest American created evil terrorist threat – ISIS – has been wreaking havoc throughout the Middle East, they were fighting Assad, so we weren’t going to eradicate them. Putin immediately began obliterating their command infrastructure, refineries, oil tankers, bridges, and other essentials an enemy uses to sustain them. This real war embarrassed the U.S., Turkey and NATO, while infuriating a desperate ISIS leadership.

Now we’ve reached a tipping point, as the swirl of accusations, rhetoric, provocations, miscalculations, egos, hubris, and luck will combine to produce a combustible mixture which could erupt at any time. The Islamic radicals (ISIS, the supposed moderates, Turks, Iraqis, Egyptians, French, Belgians and Muslims across the world) have lashed out in response to their betrayal by the U.S. in allowing Putin to actually fight them, by blowing up a Russian airliner, slaughtering 130 people in France, killing dozens in Mali and Tunisia, while threatening similar attacks in the U.S.

Hollande has thrown the French Constitution in the trash bin in his pathetic attempt to appear tough on terrorism so he doesn’t get ousted in the next election. Nothing like a bomb going off in Rockefeller Center or the Mall of America to get an already fearful American public in the Christmas spirit and deepening the recession the 99% are already experiencing. In this tense global atmosphere all that would be needed to set off a conflagration would be for someone to do something stupid. And Turkey just obliged.

The shooting down of a Russian bomber over Syrian territory by Turkish F-16s, provided by U.S. arms dealers, and then the shooting down of a Russian rescue helicopter with a U.S. provided TOW missile by “moderate” Syrian rebels will have far reaching consequences. This was a deliberate unprovoked attack by Turkey as either retaliation for their cheap oil supplies being cut-off, a frantic attempt by Erdogen to boost his popularity before elections, or as instructed by those calling the shots in Washington D.C.

Putin is unlikely to do anything rash, but this event has solidified the fact Russia is considered the true enemy of the West, not Islamic radicals or Syria. The next decade or so will see Russia, China and some lesser developing countries confront the West economically, through currency wars, commodity wars, and militarily through proxy wars in the Middle East and Eastern Europe, with all sides armed with nuclear weapons of mass destruction.

This phase of the Fourth Turning seems surreal. History seems to be moving in slow motion. It reminds me of the eight months between Hitler’s invasion of Poland and his invasion of Belgium and France in May of 1940, referred to as the Phoney War. The Western allies had declared war on Germany, but no one did anything. Parisians and Londoners went about their business, eating at restaurants, going to plays, enjoying the spring sunshine, and blissfully unaware of the tragedy, bloodshed, and horror which was gathering like a swirling tempest just over the horizon.

Americans today are blissfully distracted by their iGadgets, plotting out their holiday shopping strategies, leasing new cars, eating out, and buying advance tickets to the new Star Wars movie. They don’t see the wicked winter squalls ahead which will try their souls. We are experiencing the lull before the storms, but the storms are surely coming. The potential for catastrophe is high and burying our heads in the sand is not a strategy.

“The risk of catastrophe will be very high. The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and effort – in other words, a total war. Every Fourth Turning has registered an upward ratchet in the technology of destruction, and in mankind’s willingness to use it.” – Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning

    

 

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Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:35 | 6854134 DavidPierre
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Quinn wrote the aggression is coming from within ... ISIS – was created, funded, and armed by the U.S. ...and yet by his continuing writing about  the useless book The 4TH TURDING by Stress&How, he refuses to confront the everyday, 'in your face'  9/11Liars.

It was over 14 years ago that world's out of control ZioNazis struck terror into the faint hearts of zombie Americans with their use of live TV ... their staged and orchestrated false flag "New Pearl Harbor".

It seems Jim Quinn, along with a large swath of moronic ameriKlan people, will believe anything and everything they are told by the  fascist media and the treasonous government cabal about 9/11.

https://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/

He works for the public education system, (Wharton), which matriculates more and more of the functionally illiterate 'busyness' creatures into society.  Those morons like himself who can be easily manipulated and controlled with a pay check, mushhead media and endless  pretentious propaganda.

Again... QUINN FAILS !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6O4LE0eTYc

When the American people understand that the U.S. Federal Government perpetrated the 9/11 destruction, everything will change in a heartbeat.

Quinn:  If you cannot lead  ... GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY!

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:42 | 6854162 BlueViolet
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Will the assassination of Erdogan of Turkey be the trigger for that war just like the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria was the trigger for WW1 >> http://bit.ly/1SpGAhB

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:52 | 6854219 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris is retelling of glyph from French Cave...

In cave in rural France is painting circa 5000 BC, and is tell story. One day is rain much and lightening is loud and scary. Leader of cave community is explain danger of lightening and is predict end of world if citizenry is not work hard for stopping of lightening. Every citizenry of community must bring it portion of berries and meat for sacrificial god and make incantation. Leader of cave community is so very smart, is not help hunt and gather, but is must make strategy and "guide" community for self-preservation technique.

Later, one day, citizen is outside and is look up and see is still lightening, but is look around and is still alive. Other citizen of clan is still also alive. No one is die, yet lightening is come and go, and community is survive. Citizen is make comment at cave meeting.

Next day, ruler of clan is invite citizen of dissending opion for walk to discuss future of clan and citizen is "accidental" fall in tar pit.

Leader of clan is urgent gather rank of citizen and is explain danger of tar pit and is predict end of world if citizenry is not work hard for prevention of tar pit...

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:34 | 6854351 Renfield
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Boris is read his Plato. Good stuff, comrade.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 00:32 | 6855127 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris is enjoy all of original Walt Disney character.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:39 | 6854355 Kitler
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@DavidPierre

"When the American people understand that the U.S. Federal Government perpetrated the 9/11 destruction, everything will change in a heartbeat.

Quinn:  If you cannot lead  ... GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY!"

 

Quinn is not alone in his belief that 9/11 was perpetrated by Osama Bin Laden and his Saudi accomplices

Wikileaks Julian Assange and former CIA whistleblower Edward Snowden both are on record as believing the official version of events, as does Vladimir Putin who had all of the necessary intelligence on Bin Laden from his CIA/Afghanistan days

Putin surely would have released any information on CIA or neocon involvement in 9/11 if it existed as surely as he has already implicated Turkey and the West in their suppot of ISIS

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:42 | 6854380 DavidPierre
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A lie gets around the world long before truth has a chance to get its pants on. 
Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:57 | 6854427 Kitler
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The question remains, why would these 3 credible and extremely well informed sources intentionally mislead the public about something as important as "the truth" about 9/11?

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:01 | 6854442 turnoffthewater
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Is the media warning the people about war so that when it happens they won't be surprised just like all the newspapers that wrote there were 6 million dead jews before WWII?

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:32 | 6854579 DavidPierre
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I don't know and neither do you.

I believe physical science ... not politicians or MORONS like Quinn!

http://www.ae911truth.org/

 

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:05 | 6854454 WillyGroper
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@Kitler,

That alone tells you it's collaborative.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 22:53 | 6854868 Kitler
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Possibly

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:16 | 6854501 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Boris is watch Star Trek.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:30 | 6854565 GhostOfDiogenes
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Is how Boris learned English.

He does a mean klingon.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 17:58 | 6858377 Reichstag Fire Dept.
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Well done Boris!! The old stories are the best, aren't they?!

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:01 | 6854242 earleflorida
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its moar of a 'Sly and the Family Stone' kinda thing[?]... its a family affair... Odai and Quasai Hussein?

 

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:46 | 6854638 Escrava Isaura
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The irony is that a large part of Americans are susceptible for dogmas and cults. Brazilians are no better. It wouldn't surprise me that more than half of US population believe this nonsense.

 

Hell. 44% of Americans believe Jesus is coming to save us during their life time.

 

My doctor friend told me that is some level of schizophrenia that we all carry in our genes. Some more than others.

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 18:03 | 6858395 Reichstag Fire Dept.
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Jesus isn't coming? ...but...Bible!

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:45 | 6854190 Noplebian
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There are a lot of people in denial at this time, almost in panic mode because deep down they know what's coming......

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:49 | 6854398 Abitdodgie
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How many times do you have to post the BIN article , yes we have got it .

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:46 | 6854197 Normalcy Bias
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I'm loving this deathmatch between you two. Advantage D Pierre!

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:35 | 6854484 DavidPierre
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...deathmatch... lol !!!

How about ... just rubbing Quinn's face in the shit that he started 5 years ago.

It is -10 and snowing here in the Rockies ... enough time for some shits and giggles at his expense on a quiet Sunday.

I'm still waiting  for his 9/11 magnum opus here on ZH .

The man has no balls.


Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:01 | 6854255 WillyGroper
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@DavidPierre,

You are an OL stalker!

He works for the public education system, (Wharton), which matriculates more and more of the functionally illiterate 'busyness' creatures into society.

There's a nugget!

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:12 | 6854290 DavidPierre
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More like a game of Cat & Mouse.

Quinn blusters and brags but mostly hides under his sycophantic rock where he has control of the delete button.

Out in the open Fight Club ain't to his liking.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:28 | 6854339 jwoop66
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Dude.  What do you do most days when there ISN'T an article about the "fourth turning" ?  

 

It must be frustrating to have to scan constantly for a fourth turning article, so you can be the first to post.   Do the tylers send you an e-mail telling you when and at what time a fourth turning article is posting?  

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:47 | 6854640 DavidPierre
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Tell you what... you can let me know when Quinn responds in the comments.

Most likey it will be him posting about his passion for beastiality.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:52 | 6854411 WillyGroper
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Good on'ya & God bless.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:25 | 6854326 margincall575
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id suggest if you have a something personal with JQ then by all means find him.. Guy seems to get it.. Except were he mentioned political parties.. There are no black hats and white hats.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:04 | 6854450 malek
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Now you're down to 9/11 and ad hominem - trying to refute a book written in 1993 (or so you say)
And you forgot to mention the litmus test!!!1!

Nice dream by the way.
What do you think would happen if the American people would "understand"?
They would vote the fucks out of office?
A military coup??
Civil war???

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:25 | 6854525 DavidPierre
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And you forgot to mention ... WRONG!

9/11 Is the Litmus Test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6O4LE0eTYc

Next time THINK before you write...MORON!


Sun, 11/29/2015 - 22:18 | 6854766 GIANTKILR
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YAWN! You guys are all still here talking about the end?!?!?! 

 

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:33 | 6854137 HedgeAccordingly
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Aliens will intervene. The alien put.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:25 | 6854548 hoist the bs flag
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AKA: the Krugman wetdream

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 18:04 | 6858400 Reichstag Fire Dept.
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The alien put?! :D lolololololololololol *shits pants* lolololololololol

 

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:36 | 6854149 Truther
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ET, Go Home.

Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:42 | 6854178 FreeShitter
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Leaving one's house and entering the world of the sheep confirms it.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:41 | 6854154 Amish FinEng
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WTF is up with all the 4th turding articles?

We sell a lot of milk to BlueBell. How about a financial piece about the return of Blue Bell and Chipolte? WTF?

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:47 | 6854201 XitSam
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Can we please stop this forth squirming nonsense already? 75 billion year old thetans control the cycles. How many time are you going to say it, Jim? 

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:04 | 6854265 MD
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Agreed, the 4th turning nonsense is getting to be a bit much.  Please go back to financial blogging, ZH.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 22:41 | 6854850 August
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This is the NEW DRIVEL-BASED ZH,

occasionally supplemented by insightful material, for those inclined toward such.

 

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:28 | 6854338 o r c k
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Bluebell? I recently drove 800 miles to bring home 8 gals. of Homemade Vanilla. No joke.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:41 | 6854171 stant
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By my dead reckoning , ww3 started 1 of oct. better get on speaking terms with the amish

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:43 | 6854180 falak pema
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So the fourth turning is the new Quran for the disenfranchised ?

There is no project for a better world there; just the announcement of the Apocalypse.

Even the Quran was more hopeful and showed a light at the end of the tunnel.

This is just nihilism. I don't see what project comes out of the fourth as there is no pointer to fifth awakening.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 22:12 | 6854744 TheFutureReset
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The fourth turning is all about generational cycles. The study of how generations' characteristics and major events in the past seem to necessitate events in the future, they repeat in a four phased pattern which leads to total war every 80 to 100 years. It's not about apocalypse, it's about the opposite, the persistence cyclical nature to human history. But maybe I'm missing something from my recollection of the book I read a decade ago. 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 18:10 | 6858432 Reichstag Fire Dept.
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If it's up to the Millenials to do something about anything...I won't bet on those stupid fucking losers to get anything right! :D

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:44 | 6854187 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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In an expanding universe all climates evolve. Professor Emeritus Chuckles Darwin posited the Theory of Evolution in the Origin of Species which is resolutely accepted throughout all of academia. 'Climate Change' does not jibe with the Theory of Evolution.

 

Chuckles would be very disappointed IMHO.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:44 | 6854188 outlaw.guru
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OMG this doom porn is A class fappin material

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:54 | 6854231 ebworthen
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The most important issue of the day is fantasy football!

Is it a game of skill or is it gambling!?!?

It reminds me of betting on horses at the track.

Therefore, it is racist!  Black lives matter!

Who's that Snowden guy, anyways?

/s

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 19:54 | 6854233 earleflorida
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'Why do they hate us?'

Baby Bush 913/2001

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:02 | 6854260 earleflorida
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absolutely great read, Mr Quinn

per usual :-))

thanks!

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:15 | 6854494 Implied Violins
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Either that, or woodchippers. Especially woodchippers.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:22 | 6854320 SillySalesmanQu...
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"As with most diabolically immoral plans, the unintended consequences will be far worse than the initial outcome."

The consequences are already in motion.They have been designed and planned a long time ago.
Even though the perpetratrators have been exposed, the deluded and distracted masses continue on in the Matrix, most still clinging to the misguided notion that "all is well..."
The patient is near death. soon will be terminated and buried in the dustbin of history.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:35 | 6854358 pupdog1
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Fucking Tylers are now blocking the entire screen with ads while trying to read.

"goadvs.com"

Outta here.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:32 | 6854577 Proofreder
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Man up, errr Dog up; quit complaining,

get an adblocker for your bowser.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 20:55 | 6854423 Cabreado
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It's probably best to consider the "fourth turning" a discussion of a natural process of (those who aspire to) Control vs an enabling ignorance, a loosely supported time component (how long this process takes), and the generally predictable situations along the way.

No need to get bent out of shape about the concept; better to recognize that human behavior is the only constant, so then we've been here before...

and to recognize and pay attention to where the "fourth turning" discussion hits home, and in fact very much of it does.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:05 | 6854455 22winmag
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Another busy day at the gun range today, despite the near freezing temps and the NFL on TV.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:17 | 6854504 cougar_w
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Well that settles it then.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:17 | 6854506 LawyerScum
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Americans today are blissfully distracted by their iGadgets, plotting out their holiday shopping strategies, leasing new cars, eating out, and buying advance tickets to the new Star Wars movie

It only took me a few minutes online to get my advanced tickets for Star Wars.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:26 | 6854536 Grandad Grumps
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As long as Satan is on control of this world we will continue to have the same cycles. The question then is whether Satan is an integral part, necessary for this world, its people and their development. Satan is very smart, but is he creative? Does he have free will or is he just regurgitating the same stuff from an infinite number of cycles, played out with many different players?

For us it seems different. First we are taught and the we are tested... or tempted with corruption and tested if we know and can use what we have been taught.

I was outside, mowing the lawn today and was thinking about a simple concept.

In the alternative community they say that young souls look to ritual for answers (young souls are looking for others to tell them what to do). Mature souls look to technology for answers. Old souls look inside themselves.

It occurred to me that this could be stated another way: Young souls asks the question "what to do?". Mature souls ask the question "how"? and old souls as "why".

All three are very good questions. Thanks to Strauss and Howe we know what and how their cycles occur. We do not know why. People guess, including Strauss and Howe, but they appear as clueless as the rest of us when trying to describe "why" there are the turnings... as if it is programmed into the machine and we have no choice, no free will ... but why?

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:23 | 6854538 John_Steed_to_s...
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American people cannot understand that their government is the one at the start of the coming war.

In order to understand it, american people must accept their own responsibility for letting their government acts the way it does.

To admit self responsibilty requires political consciousness, which american people unfortunately do not have.

The intellectual level of the american population is very low, thanks to the US educational system. Look at the PISA report, USA fell from position number 17 to 36. For the american people to read, to analyze, to understand and to act will require at least 75 years of time, and only if the eductional system is reformed right now !!! Needless to say it will not happen tomorrow. Or .... if the country is defeated economically and in a real war. When the US dollar will have lost its status, and when the rest of the humanity will look at what the country has done in term of war (remenber Germany in 1945/46), then american people may accept their responsibility and change their government and Constitution. But the price paid by humanty before we reach that date may well be very high, both ion terms of human lives, unrest, chaos, wars and destructions.

American people today are just like kids: only interested by gadgets, not willing to work, not conscious of their duties and responsibilities. Only when their house will be burnt to the ground, will they maybe understand that one does not play with matches (fire) without consequences.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:50 | 6854617 SHADEWELL
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Mr. John Steed

You appear guilty of the generalization concept, so prevelent in those of the weak mind, and dearth of grey matter

As my Country's third President, i state that your propaganda are empty words, as if every single American would represent the sterotype you present. Your "analysis" has the substance of my dinner last night that is currently floating in the swirl , prior to entering the drain from my recent porcelin seat deposit

"It is always better to have no ideas than false ones; to believe nothing, than to believe what is wrong."

Thomas Jefferson
Sun, 11/29/2015 - 22:15 | 6854759 rejected
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"american people may accept their responsibility and change their government and Constitution."

Change the Constitution?  Hell, no one adheres to the present one, what makes anyone think they will abide by another.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:23 | 6854540 John_Steed_to_s...
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American people cannot understand that their government is the one at the start of the coming war.

In order to understand it, american people must accept their own responsibility for letting their government acts the way it does.

To admit self responsibilty requires political consciousness, which american people unfortunately do not have.

The intellectual level of the american population is very low, thanks to the US educational system. Look at the PISA report, USA fell from position number 17 to 36. For the american people to read, to analyze, to understand and to act will require at least 75 years of time, and only if the eductional system is reformed right now !!! Needless to say it will not happen tomorrow. Or .... if the country is defeated economically and in a real war. When the US dollar will have lost its status, and when the rest of the humanity will look at what the country has done in term of war (remenber Germany in 1945/46), then american people may accept their responsibility and change their government and Constitution. But the price paid by humanty before we reach that date may well be very high, both ion terms of human lives, unrest, chaos, wars and destructions.

American people today are just like kids: only interested by gadgets, not willing to work, not conscious of their duties and responsibilities. Only when their house will be burnt to the ground, will they maybe understand that one does not play with matches (fire) without consequences.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:33 | 6854580 PoasterToaster
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The assumption that everyone (or a supermajority) of people must agree on action before things change is demonstrably false.  Yet from the time most of us were young we have been taught that change can only come when everyone is aligned.  This is a lie, yet we still believe it.

Given that there is no need for 100% of Americans to agree, what is the tipping point?  50%? 25%

Things are not as bad as they seem.  Media makes us swim in shit even in small doses of exposure.  Those that want change are treated to a fucking circus of Kardashians and fake news.  It is demoralizing and isolation-inducing.  As it is meant to be.

Chin up, times they are a'changing.  Things have just been frozen so long people don't remember that change can happen.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:29 | 6854554 PoasterToaster
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"Americans today are blissfully distracted by their iGadgets..."

This is the central problem most of the doom and gloomers have- a shortsightness about technology and excessive pessimism about "Americans".  If you want to see the light at the end of the tunnel, you must first divorce yourself from the notion that the old system needs to continue if we are to avoid disaster.  For many, the end of the old system can't come soon enough, and they do not fear what comes after.  Living in fear is what keeps monsters in power.

There is not one monolithic city dwelling "American" that can be interchanged as a personality type among millions.  There are two kinds of people living in the territory claimed by the United States Government.  There are those who still have a stake in the system, and those who have been discarded by it.  The former group is shrinking daily.  The tipping point is arriving.

When people in the media invoke "Americans", they mean the mythical suburbanite that lives in a safe world where paychecks are endless, nobody is worried about anything, and it is the 1990's forever.  This imagery is all-encompassing and replaces what people see with their own eyes and experience in their own lives.  This is how people are made to feel outcast and alienated, and why they keep their mouths shut about troubles and doubts.

What these articles about 4th Turnings need to recognize is that technology is the answer, not the problem.  Those with the greatest fear of change seem to feel technology has brought on the disaster.  Technology will continue to improve lives despite the (often unwitting, but highly programmed) blame game that so many people accept.  This is the twin of the argument that we require more scarcity to live better, despite living in our post scarcity world which proves it false.  It is also related to the "everything must grow unsustainably and we are doomed because of it" meme.

The people questioning the current paradigm who write these articles are irretrievably poisoned by the propaganda mentioned in the last paragraph.  There is no need for such pessimism.  The only area where pessimism is warranted is with regard to the controlling elite.  No, they will not step down and yes, they will burn the world to ashes before they go- if they can.

Names, lists.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 22:10 | 6854734 rejected
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Technology has destroyed privacy and individual freedom. All the NSA snooping,,, google and the rest following everything you do,,, appliances like refrigerators, washer and dryers that used to last 15 -20 years and were repairable now are lucky to make 10 and are junked because their electronics are no longer available. Automobiles that now cost $30,000 and up with stupid gadgets, bells and whistles that just distract the driver and cause accidents and deaths. At work it's even worse. I have been given both a IPAD and IPHONE to be more efficient. I spend an average of 1-2 hours weekly just updating them and changing passwords.In the old system I could put 7.5 hours of work in. Today with computers and iGadgets I am lucky to get 5.

Technology has made us a throw away society changing out iGadgets, computers, TV's every couple years. Everything about us is now in the "cloud". People walk staring into their iGadgets having no clue where their going. I have almost hit a couple of these "techies' while they were texting. Speaking of texting,,, years ago that old system got rid of Morse code due to the telephone. Now your technology advanced system stand around tapping out messages to each other.

We can see what the new technology is doing in the work area, Machines putting people out of work and the ones that are left want $15 per hour for $5 per hour work. Go to a store and wait for someone to remember their debit card password, or trying to get their iGadget to work correctly. I pay in cash and am gone in one minute.

Quinn is correct in his assertions.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:31 | 6854572 RevIdahoSpud3
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I thought the turning's were over at the last round? I bit on the first, 1 sentence of the second and knew better by the third to keep reading. The fourth and hopefully the last will elude me forever as I have excercised "free will" and refuse to read the shit.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:54 | 6854651 DavidPierre
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What's that old bible saying?

Oh yeah!

"As a dog returns to roll in its own vomit, so a fool repeats his folly."

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:34 | 6854595 Ms No
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"The next world war could be determined by which side can successfully disable satellites and key missile systems of their foes."

I always wondered how long it will be until the control of the path of missles can be hacked.  Could you imagine Israel launching two big ATs only to have one head for SA and another go straight up in the air and come straight back down... damn that would suck. 

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 21:45 | 6854630 rejected
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Damn good write with one minor disagreement.

Jim States "repealing Obamacare without offering an alternative,"

I think no alternative would be far better. This way a new system, hopefully government free, could start up.

Just trash the monster.

Sun, 11/29/2015 - 22:04 | 6854711 Yes_Questions
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Can the  fourth turning please wait til after star wars?  

 

Please sir...may I have just one moar

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 01:19 | 6855242 roddy6667
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Most Americans support Perpetual War. When is the last time you saw an anti-war demonstration?

"It's all about the terrorists"

"9-11 changed everything"

WWIII will be fought in America. Missiles will drop nuclear bombs on all major cities and half of Americans will die.

I can see a time after WWIII when Americans finally realize their stupidity in supporting war. I can see them rounding up and executing all the leaders, politicians, preachers, newspaper columnists, etc that led the country into war.

I sit on the other side of the planet and watch the debacle unfold.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 02:05 | 6855311 10mm
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War demonstrations don't mean jack shit. Never did. And Americans won't be rounding up jack shit. Actually they will be rounded up. It's late in the game. Should of already happened. Back to sleep America. 

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