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Are These The Tankers Bilal Erdogan Uses To Transport ISIS Oil?
Regular readers are by now well acquainted with Bilal Erdogan, the son of Turkish autocrat Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Although Erdogan senior masquerades as President of a democratic society, he is in reality a despot who just weeks ago, capped off a four-month effort to nullify an undesirable ballot box outcome by scaring the electorate into throwing more support behind the ruling AKP in a do-over vote designed specifically to undermine the pro-Kurdish HDP, which put up a strong showing in the last round of elections, held in June.
As the world’s interest in Islamic State’s illicit oil trade has grown over the past 60 or so days, so too has the scrutiny on how the group gets its stolen crude to market. In the seven days since Turkey shot down a Russian Su-24 near the Syrian border, Moscow has done its best to focus the world’s collective attention on the connection between ISIS and Turkey. It’s common knowledge among those who pay attention to such things that Ankara is part of an alliance that includes Riyadh, Doha, and Washington whose collective goal is to fund and arm the Syrian opposition. What’s up for debate is the extent to which that alliance supports ISIS and, to a lesser extent, al-Nusra.
Earlier today, Vladimir Putin explicitly accused Ankara of attempting to protect ISIS oil routes by shooting down Russian warplanes which have destroyed hundreds of Islamic State oil trucks in November.
Erdogan of course denies the allegations, but as we’ve shown, it would be very easy for Turkish smugglers to commingle ISIS and KRG crude (which, by the way, is also technically illegal), effectively using Kurdish oil to mask Turkey’s participation in the Islamic State oil trade.
Some contend that Bilal Erdogan’s marine transport company BMZ Group (which owns a Maltese shipping company) is involved in trafficking ISIS oil (see our full account here).
Here’s what Syrian Information Minister Omran al-Zoub said on Friday:
“All of the oil was delivered to a company that belongs to the son of Recep [Tayyip] Erdogan. This is why Turkey became anxious when Russia began delivering airstrikes against the IS infrastructure and destroyed more than 500 trucks with oil already. This really got on Erdogan and his company’s nerves. They’re importing not only oil, but wheat and historic artefacts as well."
While we’ve yet to come across conclusive evidence of Bilal’s connection to ISIS, we would note that the Turkish port of Ceyhan is state-run and given Turkey’s extensive experience in smuggling KRG crude, it seems entirely fair to suggest that sneaking in 40,000 or so barrels of ISIS oil each day wouldn’t be that difficult a task. Indeed, given that Kurdish oil is, like ISIS crude, technically undocumented, Turkey will always have plausible deniability on its side (unless of course the oil is being moved into the country straight from Syria which is what Putin seems to be suggesting).
In any event, if Bilal Erdogan is in fact engaged in the trafficking of stolen crude (and take it from us, Baghdad will tell you that Kurdish crude sold independently of SOMO is every bit as illegal as Islamic State oil) it’s probably worth tracking BMZ Group’s fleet. Here’s a list of ships that Turkish or other regional media have at one time or another confirmed belong to Bilal:
You can track them all, free of charge at MarineTraffic.com:
Just don't let Erdogan senior catch you monitoring his son's fleet or you, like Can Dündar, editor in chief of Cumhuriyet, and Erdem Gül, the newspaper’s capital correspondent in Ankara, could end up sitting in a Turkish jail for 100 + 42 years.
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Love to see a Soviet Cruise Missle attack on that fleet.....
Yes they probably are and the west knows all about it!
Next stop......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...
Haha, ZH scooped the Obama administration and the Pentagon and the CIA!
Regards,
Cooter
Extremely unlikely but I am sure it will be noted on the Terror Tuesday kill list...
Have we forgotten Ahmet Burak Erdogan, the eldest son. Ahmet also owns a shipping company, MB Shipping, out of Northern Cyprus. This company has been a accused of violating an economic embargo with Israel. The Umit G, a general cargo ship, sails under a Turkish flag and can be retrofitted to transport oil.
https://www.vesselfinder.com/ship-photos/41582?s=1
"Ahmet Burak Erdogan, the son of the Turkish prime minister, has bought a sixth vessel for the shipping company that he co-founded with a partner, daily Sözcü reported on Nov. 9.
The new Malta-flagged cargo ship "Pretty" can carry over 91,000 tons and has almost the same capacity as the company's five other vessels together, the report claimed.
The firm of Erdogan's eldest son, MB Denizcilik (Shipping), owns five other ships, Safran 1 (name changed to Umit G), Sakarya, G. One bolu, Cihan and Bossa, which have a total capacity of around 92,000 tons, according to the report."
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/Default.aspx?pageID=517&nid=57656
"Pretty" is a multi-purpose bulk carrier that can transport oil without a retrofit.
https://www.vesselfinder.com/ship-photos/134417?s=1
Umit G sails frequently to Israel and Ukraine.
And the rabbit hole gets ever deeper...
Good find, Alaric.
The bulk carrier Sakarya also can transport oil.
Name: Sakarya
IMO: 9257199
Flag: Turkey
MMSI: 271043415
Callsign: TCVU3
Former name(s):
- Eternal Confidence (Until 2012 Dec)
Vessel type: Bulk Carrier
Gross tonnage: 17,953 tons
Summer DWT: 29,905 tons
Length: 170 m
Beam: 23 m
Draught: 5 m
Home port: Istanbul
http://www.denizhaber.com.tr/ahmet-burak-erdogan-mv-sakarya-gemisini-14-...
And to think that the MSM employ "journalists!"
Another wasted college degree- Everything the MSM "reports" is based on an agenda of hiding the truth.
Thank God for the Internet and alternative media.
"So do not be afraid of them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known." - Matthew 10:26
The real story is te TEN PERCENT the CLINTON FOUNDATION skims off of every tanker load.....dont hold your breath waiting for the jew run media to break the story though.
Here's what the future holds for Erdogan.
A new high in his career.
http://goo.gl/EeUp0h
Maybe one brother moves oil the other moves weapons, wheat and little kids.
Someone also has to move the antiquities that members of the elite pay ISIS and their middlemen top dollar to privately display in the man caves.
Hopefully they will go the way of Saddams sons.
Hopefully Putin and Russia will sink them one by one. Use the Spetsnaz with mysterious charges attached to the hull and sink em.
F Erdogan and his evil klan.
Freddie NO, No
You shouldn't do that because, "It could cause some environmental damage".
Yes. But consider what the intelligence agencies of the world understand. They certainly assume 9/11 was the false flag that it was. Their thinking must be far ahead of the average citizen here in the US.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/30/the-next-false-flag/
Russia, Germany, France, ... all know it was a false flag. Italian somebody was so indiscrete as to say so, also saw some other prominent European say so, rubes.
Their leaders all know it. Our leaders know it if they want to. We people are pretty convinced, anyone who cares about reality.
I do not know what to think, except that there are a lot of people in governments around the world worried about their necks in nooses, making it an unstable situation. An interesting aspect of the Mutual Gonad Clutcher's Association.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/01/08/operation-soft-samson/
Noplebian , how many times can you post the same link, if it is that interesting stay on BIN , lookout planet X is coming.
Short message from the Sakerhttp://thesaker.is/short-message-from-the-saker-3/
Simple oil selling plot requires simple lies to deny. The whole oil/ISIS/war is US created and ran.
Reminds me of an updared version of Iran Contra and the CIA running coke.
Again, silence on Israel. Where do you think a lot of that crude from Syria, as well as Kurdish held territories ends up?
France probably...
Again, reading helps: "ISIS Oil Trade Full Frontal: "Raqqa's Rockefellers", Bilal Erdogan, KRG Crude, And The Israel Connection"
It's fun-durrrr-mental. Ist.
tyler you are so kind you guide even the blind and mentally progressed ones into light
Talk about hitting a nerve. Do these spook errand boys not realise that the number of denials make it obvious that you're right on the money quintago?
Or maybe just U.S. seize them, you know, as "spoils of war" since we're at war with terror.
Oh wait, nevermind, U.S. only seizes shit from it's own citizens. Maybe that's who the war is really against...
I would love to see Hezbollah or Syria seize them or Russia sink em. They have been used to steal Syrian oil. Syria should grab them.
In this climate of ubiquitous armchair generals, I'm astonished that someone came up with a common sense answer.
Are you some kind of freak? You certainly are atypical.
Freak? Yes, but luckily the numbers of us grow each day. Being born in the mid 60s, I usually refer to our generation as "Cold War Kids", you know, we had the drills at school, where we were supposed to get under the desks, hide from the flash, and kiss our asses goodbye.
Many of us never expected to see the age of 30 (and we damn sure lived that way). We were taught that we'd be soldiers fighting the USSR. FFS
Oddly enough, a series of dreams (three) that I had in the mid 80s, introduced me to the "False Flag" before I ever even heard or read the word. I've been buying ammo since the day of the 2nd dream.
I regret not having written them down immediately, as they would have made one helluva mini-series, but, they are still trapped in the grey matter.
Good day to ya,
BT
It would be more fun to drop a dime to the Sea Shepherd folks and tell them that these ships are carrying whale oil.
Id rather see a bounty put on them.
Lloyds of london must be shitting their pants.
Lloyds off London has hedged their bets. They'll make $$ whether they sink, or float...
I'd say the same, but my country is still in NATO.
Soviet???
Did you just wake up from a 25 year nap?
With these prospective transporters being outed, I would think twice about being a captain or crew on these ships?
Erdogan has been warned. Is he next like Gaddafi >> http://bit.ly/1SpGAhB
In response to the first comment in this thread about Russia blowing the tankers up with cruise missiles:
I knew it, I saw the title of the article and the first thought that came to mind, is that the armchair general apes would want to spend a million dollar cuise missile to destroy each one. I KNEW IT!! It is the most kneejerk, reflexive reaction from the idiots that can only think of blowing shit up as a solution to every problem.
Always count on armchair generals to supply the requisite chorus thereby giving Uncle Fraud the green light to waste money in the most efficient method possible. (if it wasn't asking for Russia to do it, we would have to fill the bill naturally)
For the people that aren't braindead zombies, figure this type of clue into your calculations FOR EVERYTHING!
Nothing will be done to Bilal, he is immune to international law.
He's not immune to lead poisoning of the brain.
Er..., not from the Russians he won't. They prefer serving polonium 210 sandwiches. But hold the mayo. I'm on a die-yet.
The person who killed the Russian journalist was that shit bag Berezovsky. He is dead now.
Again the western propaganda myth.
Polonium is preferred method of British intelligence and their partners Russian/Israeli mafia.
Can read about if interested what happened in real.
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/07/31/theresa-may-raises-an-o...
- Barky
Airspace = defend
Land borders = WTF is that? COme on in Amigos!
He reminds me of the stereotypical hollywood east asian mafia punk ass spoiled kid that gets whacked at a night club surrounded by his body guards, 5000 a night hookers and empty bottles of Dom. In this case I hope life imitates art
Tankers away !
Tanks a lot Erot-oy-gen.
Man, all these middle east guys like to fuck each other over a lot.
I blame it on the goats.
The question is, does Ergodon still want to be President after he can't have his son sell ISIS oil?
You mean what Obama uses to transport ISIS oil because that is who is behind this
Little green men pirates should cause an oil spill disaster with one of these. Would give great headlines, Use the climate bullshit propaganda against the system that spawned it.
I like the way you think.
Another day of Zh slavishly toeing the line from Moscow.
Zzzzzzz..... Why don't they just redirect the Zerohedge domain to RT or Sputnik News and be done with it??
Half your comments are an iteration of this one.
If you want neocon propaganda, kindly refer to the entire MSM.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/01/06/the-neocon-propaganda-machine-pus...
*Sigh* Hardly. We simply do not like being lied to. And having things done in our name against our wishes. Who wants WW III? I sure as hell don't - nor would any rational human being. Apparently some of us are so crazed with power that rationality escapes.
(I know I know don't feed the trolls)
OK, you think you know so much more about the issue than the average ZH reader.
What's wrong with this article?
Enlighten us with your brilliant insights.
Don't encourage the trolls. Only one reply per article.
Is that because commenting gives them too much attention or does commenting under them actually keep them around?
YOMUTTI ,I do not think ZH is toeing the line from Moscow but they are just reporting what is really happening in the world however I bet there are some great videos on Facebook about those mean Russians that throw babies out of incubators , and Putin has a death star , don't let the door hit you on the ass.
Teh finn / yomutti / dsty spend a great deal of time whining and complaining about a small (relatively) econ blog not regurgitating the pack of lies currently dominant and inescapable in the Zionist controlled media.
Its one thing to call someone a troll who trolls. Quite another to perpetually whine about every article or group of commenters who simply disagree with the war propaganda.
Perhaps it is best for us not to feed them going forward - all but tarabel and blankone seem quite ignorant and unable to post thoughtful analysis at all. I disagree with tarabel a lot and actually blankonehalf the time but they do contribute and do try to argue their positions - which is all we can really ask of people.
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Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation (Includes The 8 Traits of A Disinformationalist)
http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html
Revealed: US NeoCons, military contractors sponsoring anti-RT propaganda
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/316658-us-neocons-military-contractors/
Lol, Tyler's been scooped. I JUST saw this documented on the news! It was an hour long special, with Brian Williams reporting live from the deck of the Mecid Aslanov, while it was performing a ship to ship transfer with Bilal holding certified IDs of the ISIS smugglers.
Actually, seeing as you asked: the Poet Qabil is my launch/runabout, used to travel from the yacht to shore. The yacht draws ~2200 ft so I need lots of gas.
http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-israel-buys-most-oil-smuggled-from-is...
http://yournewswire.com/israel-caught-receiving-stolen-oil-from-isis-mil...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
Isreal buys the oil now that was a surprise
But Israel is the home of God's people...
For all those who do not see the absolute humor in this ---> </sarc>
Fine, but if you sell me Syrian oil at $20/bbl... I would buy it too. Then sell it to Warren Buffet at $40, and to Israel for $50.
"PROFIT HAS NO PATRIOTISM" seems a universal motto, if it isn't.
Are any of those ships named "monkey business" in Turkish? I strongly suspect that the Erdogan's have Gary Harted themselves and that would just be poetic justice at its best.
Nothing says "discrete" like ship hulls painted "guards red".
I wonder if the anchors are diamond encrusted?
Red is quite a popular colour for oil tankers. It's helpful to be able to see the little fuckers.
I think the actual shade is called 'Abundance of Blood'.
I stand corrected Jim.
The bottoms of the hulls are painted, 'arrogant erdoghan orange'.
That must be why the Baltic Dry Index is toast?
Those guys over at Maersk need to paint their tankers red.
USS ISIS.
Tyler, I hope you don't plan on going to turkey. If you were, catch a viewing of 'Midnight Express'.
Although Erdogan senior masquerades as President of a democratic society, he is in reality a despot
Erdogan as president elected on election rigging technically is democtator. Turkey masquerades as democracy and follows US model of democtatorship.
I just watched this yesterday after repeatedly seeing that quote here...that gay love scene was as tender as it was unexpected.
Whats the over/under on how many weeks before erdogan is deposed?
By transporting ISIS' oil Erdogan's oil tankers are a legitimate target and should either be sunk or seized because they are carrying contraband.
Good point. I could see a Russia frigate pulling up next to one of those with a friendly "we will be boarding you now" backed up by 30mm cannons.
It's a shame that we don't have an American version of Vladimir Putin.
The guy is a little scary. The Russians can manage him, and I don't mind watching him work from a distance.
The grass is always greener... but when the same people who object to IRS targeting, SWATing, and other repressions of the natural freedom of expression claim to envy the position of the Russian proles... the limits of hyperbole are transgressed straight into some queer fascist homophily happy place.
The american oligarchy would never allow a Putin.
Erdogan will just donate a tanker or 2 to the Kennedy Clan's Oil "charity" in Massachusetts and everything will be fine. The Clinton's modeled their Foundation after this Kennedy organization but took it to a whole new level.
going to ukraine I see
I was in Kyiv Ukraine 3 weeks ago for my 7th visit on business. Good people with a difficult life.
They've brought it on themselves.
This Ted Talks on financing terrorism might be of interest on this thread...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXl-mKZ7aSc
Erdogan has been warned. Is he next like Gaddafi >> http://bit.ly/1SpGAhB
Is that Corzine I see sipping a Mai Tai on the upper deck?
No, I think that's Hunter Biden.
Bright Red... no need to target paint them babys.. periscope could see them a mile away.. stormy seas, accidents happen..
The US can't target them though due to the risk to the environment. If they are going to kill every whale in the area the prefer to do it with sonar as their death is much quicker that way. It's all about saving the world, it's a morality once you understand it.
As I read it, according to traditional international law, the Russian Federation may legally seize Erdogan's Maltese-flagged "neutral" tankers carrying ISIS' crude oil, because that crude oil constitutes a significant portion of ISIS' war making potential, that tanker then effectively constituting an enemy merchant vessel, with the tanker's subsequent condemnation in Russian prize courts, as the capturing belligerent power.
You're right but bear in mind that the us and nato show no indication of respecting such law at all.
Nato wants an excuse to get turkey to close the straits which will be a direct act of war, and yet another effort to start a 3rd world war mainly involving Europeans and Christians killing each other, and muslims, in large numbers - and mostly for us and israeli hegemony.
Why the big deal with Pollard?
"What's the big deal with Jonathan Pollard passing secret military intelligence to America's Closest Ally? Admittedly it seems there was some really serious stuff in there, including the deployment positions of American nuclear subs in the event of a war with the USSR. Details which the Israelis immediately traded with the Russkies in exchange for allowing more Jews emigrate to Israel. And at a stroke nullifying the whole American submarine-based ICBM capability. The Israelis also sold the most advanced AWACS system to Red China, thereby almost eliminating American first strike capabilities.
But hey, that's what friends are for."
http://irishsavant.blogspot.com/2015/11/why-big-deal-with-pollard.html?m=1
It's all in the Bible -(or at least Scofield's commentary and interpretation) We need to establish Greater Israel and bring on Armegeddon -so jesus can return. Apparently it is God's will that when he destroys the World -the US gets leveled first. So when the Jews sold the secrets to Russia, they were just fulfilling Biblical prophecy and doing the Lord's work. We should all be happy that they continue to assume this burden -It is God's will. Lloyd Blankfein and Goldman sachs reminded us just a couple of years ago, that they continue to do their part.
+1
A Summary of Zionist Terrorism in the Near East — 1944-1948
http://iamthewitness.com/doc/Bunche.Report.on.Zionist.Terrorism.in.the.N...
US-Israel Wage War on Iran in Syria
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2015/04/us-israel-wage-war-on-iran-in-...
Myth #4 – Israel has a “right to exist”.
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/06/17/top-ten-myths-about-the-i...
"Hidden History of Zionism"
http://www.marxists.de/middleast/schoenman/map.htm
One -1.
Typical Zio mini fart.
The day he was released, his Jewish handlers were seeking to get the conditions of his release overturned so he could leave New York and 'go home' to Israel.
Israel always puts Israel first. Strangely enough, it is a crime for the US to put the US first.
erDOGan family is a mafia making huge money by buying bloodied oil from ISIS cheap and selling at very high rates at retail.
Turkish people should now rise and rout erDOGans , throw them into jail , or worse, hang them in public.
The plot thickens, just like old-fashioned 10W40 in the winter.
Why not just arrest the tankers and run a fresh SGS report on their contents? That will show where any crude has been extracted from.
What is an "SGS report"?
Presumably these guys:
http://www.sgs.com/en/Oil-Gas/Downstream/Refining-Processing-and-Supply/...
"SGS is your first port of call for testing and inspection services for the whole range of petrochemicals
...
Our trade inspections of oil, gas and chemical cargoes are always conducted on the basis of accepted core petroleum and petrochemical standards
...
We also provide the more traditional determinations of basic physical parameters such as distillation, density, acidity and color
...
We provide analysis for all petrochemicals on demand. Our labs analyze petrochemical samples from:
Thanks. Does each source have a unique fingerprint (marker) that makes it distinguishable from other sources of the same product? What happens when products from multiple sources are mixed (the case being suggested here)? Can relative volumes of the mix be determined?
My assumption would be "no". There is no valid unique fingerprint revealing source. Even if there was, that fingerprint would be hopelessly obscured (contaminated) with the mixing of sources. Unless something is detectable at the molecular level I doubt relative volumes from multiple sources can be determined.
Information at your link does not lead me to believe otherwise. It just seems to be able to assure customers if they order a certain product, that certain product is in the shipment.
Thus, the link seems immaterial for determining the source of the product ... which is what this is all about.
Nice of Bivalve to paint them flourescent orange.
This will make is harder for US special operators to confuse them with international relief hospitals.
Putin is going to need more "smoking gun" evidence to convince Erdogan to resign.
Certainly can't bomb them, the cook is for sure a civilian. Not to mention the ecological impact, Oh the horror.
Look. Its the USS ISIS. Soooo would the stars and strips be flown above or below the black ISIS Flag?
Gee, I wonder why I haven't heard anything about this story on NPR?
Erdogan can suck my throbbing dick.......................