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Meanwhile In Kosovo's Parliament...

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While Americans are used to tears (and jeers) in The Capitol as politicians go about their 'business', none of that compares to the behavior of lawmakers in Kosovo this morning.

As The Irish Times reports, three opposition lawmakers were arrested in Kosovo on Monday amid chaotic scenes in parliament, filled once more with tear gas in a fresh protest against an accord with former master Serbia.

Opposition MPs have been disrupting the work of parliament for two months by releasing tear gas in the chamber each time it tries to sit.

 

 

They are demanding the government revoke a deal, brokered by the European Union, to grant minority Serbs greater local powers and the possibility of funding from Belgrade. They also oppose a border demarcation deal with Montenegro.

 

Opposition supporters have rioted several times on the streets of the capital, Pristina, heightening the sense of a young country in crisis almost eight years since it declared independence from Serbia.

Caught on tape...

 

Government lawmakers met alone in the afternoon after the earlier disruptions, which, as AP reports, garnered the following response from the locked-out opposition...

"In a country with no opposition in the parliament, there is no parliament and it cannot be called a democracy," said main opposition Self-Determination Movement lawmaker Aida Derguti.

 

In a statement, the European Union called for a return to dialogue in Kosovo.

 

"This kind of violent obstruction is neither acceptable nor will it solve any problem for the citizens of Kosovo," it said.

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Don't worry though - As US Secretary of State John Kerry is due  to visit Kosovo on Wednesday in a gesture of support for its development as an independent state, 16 years after a U.S.-led Nato air war to halt the killing and expulsion of ethnic Albanians by Serbian forces. Parliament Speaker Kadri Veseli urged the opposition not to disrupt parliament this week, when he arrives... grab your popcorn.

 

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Mon, 11/30/2015 - 22:34 | 6859369 Truther
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Where's rocky balboa when you need him.

Fuck at this point they need Rambo.

These guys came in ready for a shit show and got shit on.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 22:39 | 6859383 quintago
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You don't need any tear gas to cry in our congressional halls. Just listen to the shit that comes out the mouths of our elected officials. If this doesn't make you cry (out of laughter, if nothing else), nothing will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 22:47 | 6859426 Ness.
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This dude is fucking nuts.  "Imagine a World without balloons?"  

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dP_IzmgW0s

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 22:55 | 6859450 nnnnnn
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its been a long while since something made me laugh so hard

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:05 | 6859480 NoDebt
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I laughed, I cried.  It was better than 'Cats'

- Roger Ebert

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:22 | 6859686 Axie
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John Kerry Kohn to visit his little goat fucking, heroin reselling, organ trafficing look-we-now-in-suits entity. I hope they ask him what is their future once petro-dollar lights are off; will he think of them.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 02:43 | 6859878 Mister Ponzi
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NATO did not attack Serbia to stop the killing and expulsion of ethnic Albanians. Get your facts straight. Most of this was pure propaganda. German courts sent Albanians back to Kosovo on the same day the NATO bombing campaign started arguing that there was no hint of danger to life for Albanians there. Kosovo was at the brink of a - as usual - US-funded civil war. The main reason for the Western aggressive war was to destroy Russia's main ally in the Balkans, Serbia. Large scale killing, rape, harvesting of organs of POW's and the ethnic cleansing of Kosovo from all its minorities (including the Kurds, Gypsies, and all Jewish communities), however, started under the watchful eyes of NATO "liberators" once the terrorist UCK (know as KLA in English) seized power.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 03:47 | 6859927 Max UK
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Kosovo is USA's little pet narco state and military base.

The Afghan herion crop is brought to bondsteel, and the Albanians pick it up from there. Their clansmen have the whole of Europe covered.

Albanians are also the original organ harvesters, kidnapping people and removing their organs to order. That's aside from sex slavery on an industrial scale.

You can do no wrong, when USA gives you a pass.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:09 | 6861831 Dame Ednas Possum
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Some parliaments will go to great lengths to keep Bibi away from the lecturn.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 06:50 | 6860025 not dead yet
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NATO started it's bombing campaign the day after the Russians brokered a ceasefire. The excuse was massacres and genocide were going on. After the war the UN and many other investigating agencies could find no evidence of genocide or massacres. Every time the sides came together to work out a solution the US behind the scenes gummed up the works as their goal was the breakup of Yugoslavia from the very beginning of hostilities which many believe the US started.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 09:16 | 6860240 BLOTTO
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June 15th, 1389.

.

CCCC

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 09:16 | 6860242 kralizec
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Give the whole area back to Russia for all I care...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 10:43 | 6860604 rwe2late
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not dead yet,

"many believe "?

now, why would anybody say that?

 

Confessions of CIA agent: paid to dismember Yugoslavia

http://www.globalresearch.ca/confession-of-a-cia-agent-they-gave-us-mill...

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:14 | 6861859 Dame Ednas Possum
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It's all about maintaining instability, dissent and human suffering on Russia's doorstep.

Shameful.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 09:17 | 6860248 omniversling
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"The Weight of Chains" is a documentary made from a Serbian viewpoint. It's nothing like the official narrative that I heard. Recommended viewing.

The Weight of Chains | Težina lanaca (2010)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waEYQ46gH08

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 06:36 | 6860013 giovanni_f
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Axie - spot on. If I had a contingent of upvotes I would have spent them all of them on your post. A perfect description of the Kosovo that sould be used for the Wikipedia-entry on Kosovo. The only thing that should be added is that two German leftist politcians by the name of Joseph Fischer and Rudolph Scharping were instrumental in tuning the German public opinion in favor of massacring Serbs in order to stop the "new Hitler" Milsosevic (which turned out as a lie as the WMD in Iraq).

And yes, the US has a HUGE military base in Kosovo now.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 08:42 | 6860134 Mentaliusanything
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Who the fuck let that nigger out of a crack house. He was lucky to not capsize out of his taxpayer funded chair.

Judas Priest it is over with shit like that asking "Hard" questions

You are done done son. Where are the Statesmen of the US (and Hillary is worse than that shit

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:42 | 6859593 o r c k
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I feel like I spilled some liquid nails on my brain. Please don't abuse fellow  ZHers like that.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:23 | 6859539 Ms No
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Holy shit, here is their lobbying group.  They probably lunch with the dehydrated onion and garlic association.

"The Balloon Council has had quite the busy year, because of what it calls the very "real problem" of a shortage in helium. Its efforts include drumming up support for the Helium Stewardship Act, legislation that lays out how to maintain a helium reserve for.."

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/01/28/10-strange-lobbying-groups-that-we-swear-are-real

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 02:32 | 6859872 lasvegaspersona
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If we place the helium reserve on Guam...then just maybe...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:18 | 6859679 uhland62
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Applause!

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 03:08 | 6859899 boattrash
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Dammit quintago, look what you did! You sent me to Youtube, and I wound up here again... an oldie,but goodie.

How the hell did we get him again in 2012?

OBAMA BANNED THIS VIDEO - GEE, I WONDER WHY!.flv - YouTube

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 10:10 | 6860431 fleur de lis
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@Quintago, that was actually an indicator of our leadership. He had absolutely no concept of grammar school geography, and thinks islands float like driftwood instead of being the peaks of underwater mountains.

Keep it in mind that he speaks for a thousands of lives and signs off on money. Or does he. If that show was any indication he is there for a reason and told by some other pseudo leader what to sign.

We are so cooked.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:51 | 6859387 BlueViolet
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Maybe we should try that here and find out who really shot down the Russian Jet Fighter. Apparently Turkey didn't >> https://goo.gl/qazI3V

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 22:39 | 6859393 Ms No
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Another country that his been torn apart by banker funded bastards.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:02 | 6859470 Baby Bladeface
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Yes, and US-administered region of Kosovo one of the shreds torn from it.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 07:27 | 6860053 Max UK
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YES.

There has been much talk on ZH lately of the European manginas, notably in Sweden, who sit back and do nothing as their country is simply stolen in front of them, and given to non-Europeans.

The Serbs were the one people who stood up and said enough is enough; they tried to take control of their country back. This was spun in the MSM, as expansionism and genocide. The entirety of the global NWO apparatus was mobilised to make examples of the Serbs, who then found themselves isolated and fighting NATO. Of course, they could not win out in the end, though they fought for a decade.

I just wanted to point out, during the talk of western men having become supine manginas, that this is the easier bit to fix. Once they stand up, they will be demonised, picked off, imprisoned and killed by the NWO. They used the Serbs as an example, that there is no limit to the force and dirty tricks they will use, to crush opposition to globalisation, and emasculation of European culture.

And what is the sickest part of all, is that some reptilian cabal somewhere, comprising just a few men, orchestrate it all, without getting their own hands dirty. They get their puppets, the 'free nations' (LOL) to attack outbreaks of patriotism and true independence as it arises, while those self same attacking nations, are next in line for the globalisation treatment.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:32 | 6861682 memento_mori
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The serbs are the perfect example of orthodox christian style ISIS in the balkans.

They commited genocide, killed, raped and massacred innocent people without merci.

ISIS does not even come close to what the serbs did.

http://www.hrw.org/news/2000/03/20/serb-gang-rapes-kosovo-exposed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_Children_Massacre

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia_in_the_Yugoslav_Wars

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:30 | 6862259 Max UK
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Are you purposely trying to obfuscate by bombarding the reader with different topics? (and you quote from Soros' HRW, LOL!)

The issue is not about who did what (and we could argue about that forever), but rather, the issue is WHOSE LAND WAS THAT.

The place was bursting with Serbian heritage and ancient buildings, not Albanian ones. Anybody studying that land would have no doubt as to who the historic inhabitants throughout the centuries actually were.

What you wrote is exactly parroting the globalist playbook; that a territory should not default to the indigenous people, but possession should instead be on some other metric, a metric that can be changed as suits.

A very dangerous precedent was set in Kosovo, that is going to haunt Europe.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:38 | 6859584 Titus
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The NoAgenda guys have a segment in their podcast called "Where in the world is Victoria Nudelman Kagan?"

About a month ago they picked up on her traveling to Kosovo. Where Vicky Nudelman goes, distruction follows.

Methinks they need a pen to hold migrants from getting to northern Europe.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:10 | 6859662 Raymond_K._Hessel
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She and her traitorous, pig husband belong in the dock

http://mycatbirdseat.com/2014/03/51005-crisis-in-ukraine-fomented-by-the...

Not having any influence on US policy.

Ditto Mrs. Sunstein
http://www.alternet.org/world/samantha-power-obamas-atrocity-enabler

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:11 | 6859665 uhland62
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Someone needs to write a song about Nudelfrau. Ridicule is a good weapon.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:59 | 6859612 fleur de lis
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Kosovo has the massive Trepica mine complex which has been in use since Roman times. Also the KLA was most compliant in trafficking of narcotics, organs, and other nasties. The fact that Kosovo has been part of Serbia for centuries is lost on our uneducated, ill-read, scheming leaders.

During central banker bloodfest WW2 the Serbian population was transferred out of Kosovo leaving the ethnic Albanians as a sudden majority with no intention of ever letting go of their lottery win. Such massive population disruptions lead to chaos which make it that much easier for outside meddling.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:25 | 6859676 DogOfSinope
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Precisely. Clarification: during the WW2 Albanians were Nazi allies. Serbia was Entente/UK/US ally in both WWs. So, during the WW2 part of Christian population (Serbs) managed to escape to central and northern Serbia. Ones who didn't were mostly murdered by Albanians.

BTW, Trepca (lead, zinc, silver and gold) mine is in the Serb controlled part of Kosovo - tuff luck for Albanians. :-)

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:34 | 6859706 Axie
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Look the patern: Federal socialist goverment who came on power after revolution (helped by Britain, which, of course, in their non hypocritical manner took the exiled king to refuge), helped mass immigration of this highlander folk in south Serbia province -- to "control Serbian nationalist and mythological sentiment" which was "enemy of communism". For 60 years all federal units had extra taxes for this "poor non-Slavic people", which beside having enormously higher chances for better life, education and social mobility than in their homeland -- just couldn't develop and integrate.

Sounds familiar? Just wait, on streets near you, soon. 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:54 | 6859748 DogOfSinope
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Precisely. Half of the Albanian population in Kosovo today are "refugees" from Albania proper or their descendants that came during the WW2 to occupy abandoned Serbian houses/land. It continued with the support from communist until mid 60's.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 02:15 | 6859847 BarkingCat
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It was Tito's policy. Being a Croat he probably did not care for Serbs that much, but from what I read Serbs lost their majority in Kosovo when he was in power.

When Europe disengages from their muslim suicide Serbia will very likely get Kosovo back. I doubt they will leave any Albanians there this time.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 02:44 | 6859879 DogOfSinope
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True. Serbs were Royalists. Serbian Crown Prince's godmother is Queen Elisabeth the 2nd. Tito wouldn't allow for a higher royalty than himself. 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:35 | 6859713 memento_mori
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you are full of shit Sir, there are no such records of serbian population transfer in history.

Albanians have been the najority for the most part of the history in that place.

If anything, serbs have planned to colonize and exterminate the albanian population of kosovo by implanting serb colonizers and killing, expellling their population throughout history.

http://www.albanianhistory.net/texts20_2/AH1937_1.html

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:49 | 6859737 DogOfSinope
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Yeah? Serbs planned it but somehow Albanians succeed in it? Strange, isn't it?

And, don't point to fairytale links about "Albanian history". Books about Narnia are more historically accurate.

Stop being ridiculous.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:00 | 6859759 memento_mori
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It is not a book about albanian history, it is a translation of the Serbian state document prepared by Serbian Academy of Sciences how to exterminate the albanian population. "Final solution" for killing of Albaians prepared by the state of Serbia that will make hitler's plan for jews look mild.

here it is again if you are allergic to any link with albainan in it.

http://www.hic.hr/books/greatserbia/cubrilovic.htm

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:13 | 6859784 DogOfSinope
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Yeah? From Croatian web site? How convenient! Adding bullshit to bullshit?

Do you have any sense of honor? Do you ever tell the truth?

Are you at least capable of having some feeling of embarasment, because no one trust your propaganda any more? 

This is who you are:

http://english.albeu.com/news/news/kosovo-and-albania-among-countries-wi...

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:51 | 6859831 ThirdWorldDude
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He might as well think of himself as Bill Clinton or Bernard Kouchner...

Though, you've got to give the dude a benefit of doubt for linking to Croatian web-sites, he must've missed what CIA whistleblower Robert Baer said recently: They gave us millions to dismember Yugoslavia (and guess who were the main recipients).

Even Balkan sparrows know the wars that started there in the 90's are far from over, in fact just this spring the Empire was in damage control mode trying to hush the murdered and captured 'Muricans and Briton mercs in Kumanovo alongside their Bondsteel-breeded Albanian attack dog brothers...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:56 | 6859834 memento_mori
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What does it matter which website has it, the document itself is authentic and written by Vaso Cubrilovic, a serb and  leading member of the Serbian Academy of Sciences and Art, which  also held several ministerial portfolios after World War II in Serbia and whose doctrine became state policy.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 03:03 | 6859842 DogOfSinope
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Don't you think that if your claims had any resemblance of thruth, today there would be 90% Serbs on Kosovo, not 90% Albanians?

Stop embarrassing yourself. 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 02:23 | 6859858 BarkingCat
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Then why are the very old Christian churches but no old mosques in Kosovo.
The silent buildings speak the truth, you tell lies.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 11:01 | 6860643 Depression is Coming
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The city of Prizren has more old mosques per square mile than any city in Europe. Mainly ottoman influence. People there still speak Turkish more than albanian.

Not sure about genocide. I don't trust any history. Especially anything that comes between Russia and USA (everything is a lie).

Albanians in Kosovo were being slaughtered and raped by Serbs going door to door. Went to college with a guy who lived in Kosovo at the time. They hid the woman in the family in attics while Serbs were goig door to door looking for any women and children to rape and kill. He had insane videos to show as well.

I'll take this guys first hand experience and videos he showed me any day over the crap spewed by any media source

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 11:18 | 6860744 memento_mori
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because albanians were roman catholics living in the aera way before the serb slav hordes came to the aera in 6th century.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:34 | 6861687 memento_mori
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Because albaians were christians livin in Kosovo way before savage serb hordes descended from siberian steppes in 6th century.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 03:58 | 6859939 cookies anyone
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hahahah, albanianhistory.net. 

The Albanians were brought by Otomans from Turkmenistan for the same reason US has made them a country. To destabilize the Balkans...

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 22:44 | 6859413 Jethro
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There is a Boehner joke in here somewhere.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:00 | 6859466 NoDebt
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You know, back in the carefree days of ethnic cleansing things might not have been perfect, but at least you knew where everyone stood.

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:15 | 6859517 Ms No
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Oh shit, that's funny.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:06 | 6859481 Crocodile
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Those "ethnic Albanians" were the same type of Arabs we call terrorists because they are and like then and now; fully funded, trained and supplied by NATO/West and East.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:09 | 6859661 uhland62
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If you don't cause dissent and conflict, you can't waltz in as the adorable peacemaker, leave your troops there and later charge for them. 

Taiwan and Ukraine are also known for brawls in the parliament, we need an aggregated site for aggrevation in parliaments.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:22 | 6859687 847328_3527
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Maybe we should be moar humane to these ethnic people and send them all back to Ethnicistan?

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:06 | 6859483 Serious.Lee
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"[there were protests against] former master Serbia."

 

I disagree with the implication.  Kosovo is Serbian land, and it has many centuries-old Orthodox churches -- which survived the 500 year Muslim headchopper Turkish occupation -- that prove it.  Unbelivably, it was given to the headchopping, child-prostituting, organ-harvesting, heroin-trafficking Albanian terrorists.  They have been shitting all over these churches ever since.  Courtesy of the Jew slimes that began their nightmare foreign policy experiments in earnest during the Clinton administration.  

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:05 | 6859609 DogOfSinope
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Every country has a narco cartel but Kosovo is the first time that a narco cartel has a country. The sole purpose it was created is the US Bondsteel base (locally known as Bondsteal).

BTW, atrocities that happened there only happened AFTER the NATO bombing started and were spinned and greatly exaggerated to justify the illegal NATO attack on Serbia. What kind of ethnic cleansing they were speaking about if now there are 90% muslim Albanians? Only the quarter of a million ethnic Serbs (Christians) were cleansed from Kosovo. Over 100 churches were dynamited, some built in 8th century A.D., several were UNESCO World Heritage sites. But, you don't hear anything about that in West MSM. Or, that Kosovo has the highest number of ISIS terrorists in Europe.

Serbs waited to take Kosovo back from Ottomans from 1389 until 1912 - and took it back with vengeance. What Albanians should think about is that USA foreign policy will change, they will loose interest in Kosovo and go away. Serbia will stay where it is, patiently waiting. Judging by the US administration money burn rate I'm of opinion that Serbia'll need not wait nowhere as long as the last time.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:27 | 6859696 memento_mori
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you sound like a disgrunteld serb war criminal who comitted genocide while raping some innocent woman and girls in Kosovo and Bosnia and left Serbia just in time for political asylumn in Australia or New Zeland.

Once a war criminal always a war acriminal, you are a parasite and misfit in western society and all you can do is dream for another war, dont wet your bed.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:42 | 6859722 DogOfSinope
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Do I have to clarify that you sound like a typical ISIS rooting Albanian scumbag? Now fuck off. Don't you have some carrion to harvest organs from? Some heroin to smuggle? Some drug lord to suck his dick off?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:48 | 6859741 memento_mori
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Yes, looks like you were my patient in the yellow house, I still have your brain conserved in liquid nitrogen, wanna buy it back, it is worthless in the open market, nobody wants it, not enogh grey cells in it, primate.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 06:50 | 6860024 Joe A
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So you affirm you are Albanian and that there was a yellow house in Albania where Serbs and moderate Albanians were brought by the KLA to have their organs harvested. And you call Serbs savages?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 11:41 | 6860768 memento_mori
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I am not Albanian, but work in the Balkans. Serbs are full of lies, myths and propaganda even a child wont beleive. Your lies are so big that now you want to convince the world that albanians were killings serbs and taking their organs to sell in the market. It is clear you have no idea what that does involve, (ultra modern hospitals, doctors, and transporation infrastructure) all this in Kosovo where there is no infrastructure for donkey transportation, let alone organ transplants. 

You have no worth to the organ trafficers Sir because your main organ "the brain" is missing. So you keep repeating your serb lies and propaganda as if you have been conditioned by Pavlov reflex.

Furthermore that idea has been debunked so many times as big lie and serb propaganda, keep repeating it.

http://www.tanjug.rs/news/139169/williamson--no-evidence-of-human-organ-trafficking.htm

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 02:13 | 6859844 rockface
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Are you one of the American and NATO war criminals who ordered and carried out the terror bombing of Serbia?  When is Clinton going to the Hague?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:38 | 6859718 Axie
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And it's full name is Kosovo i Metohija -- Slavic-Greek for "Land of Blackbird and fields-under-monastery-control". Yeah, very Albanian and muslim.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:06 | 6859772 memento_mori
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Kosovo has been occupied for about 600 yeard by Turkey and was never actually Serbian. Under Tito it was part of Yugoslavia not Serbia so if anyone have some historical cliams to that place is the Turks not Serbs.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:14 | 6859787 Max Steel
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Terror apologists roaming on zh board these days.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:20 | 6859793 DogOfSinope
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Right. So, Serbian kings had an eccentric habit of building the grandest churches and patriarchate in foreign country?

And all the geographic toponyms (including the name Kosovo) are in Serbian language - why? Medieval Albanians fancied naming towns, mountains and rivers using Serbian language?

You are full of it!

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:43 | 6859825 memento_mori
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This idea that one needs churches and stone buildings to convince others that they are natives to that land is the kind of 'logic' is often thrown out there by many Serbs. If we go by that logic then, the natives of Canada and North America cannot lay claim to those lands because they didn't build anything extravagant as evidence that they are from that region.

In a recent interview Serbia's president Tomislav Nikolic said that there is no sign in Kosovo that there were any Albanians there prior to 50 years ago. I repeat prior to 50 years ago. That is going back to 1965. So according to Nikolic, sometime after 1965, 2 million Albanian's suddenly entered Kosovo, even though there is not a single mention of such an event. Furthermore, if 2 million Albanians suddenly, entered Kosovo, wouldn't such a huge shift in population reflect on the next census in Albania proper? I am just saying this, because such stupid lies can only be sold to the Serbs and they do not fool anybody else.

Looking at history, In 380, Eastern Roman Emperor Theodosius decreed that his subjects would be Christians according to the First Council of Nicea formula. Among old Christian heritage is the Archbishopric of Justiniana  Prima. It had the whole of present day Serbia (geographical new term- country did not existed then) under its jurisdiction, and was formed in 535 AD. However, the Archbishopric did not last, as the Slavs and Avar invasions destroyed it sometime after 602, when the last mention is made of it.

 Monastery of Gracanica (build on 6 century) and Hilandar (8 century but was given as a gift to Serbs in 12 century) the pearls of Christian heritage ARE NOT Serbian since they were build before the Serbs came in to Balkans through famous Slavic migrations in 7 century!

Serbs only rebuild few during the tsar Dusan rule, when he occupied the land including Greece. (at that time Byzantium was in chaos so he took the chance to occupy and claim it his.)

Serbs can really claim only the ZICA area as their mediaval heritage. In 1208, Saint Sava establishes the Archbishopric of Ži?a. In 1219 it becomes part of the autocephalous Serbian Orthodox Church.

Gracanica monastery and Hilandar were build when there was no Serbs in Balkan/Illyria, Byzantium, so how can Serbs claim something as theirs when their Christianity and church starts in 1219 other than by occupation?

 

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 02:49 | 6859886 DogOfSinope
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Dude, when exposed as liar on one thing you just shun it off and invent another thing.

You have no spine, no honour. You are disgrace to your honourable ancestors.

I'm done with you.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:10 | 6859501 OzFan
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Kosovo is a shithole like few shitholes. The whole country has zero prospects, zero class, run by muslim warlords and offers less to the world than some 4 month old crusted roadkill.

Aweful, pointless, stupid country.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:47 | 6859599 o r c k
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Sorta like Sweden.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:07 | 6859776 22winmag
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Kosovo and Ukraine share one distinction.

 

Some folks wore the SS patch a little over 70 years ago.

 

Some didn't and some resisted.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:28 | 6859560 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Nuland was there not long ago i believe (not positive). I wonder where shes headed next - turkey?

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:41 | 6859590 Titus
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props for posting this Raymond_K.Hessel. Didn't see it before I posted above

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:46 | 6859592 Max Steel
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A state being run by warlords  and organ harvesting mafia's : Kosovo

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:45 | 6859601 Moe Howard
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Thanks Clinton. The "gift" that keeps on giving.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:21 | 6859680 SantaClaws
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And remember Ron Brown, Clinton's Commerce Secretary, who died in a mysterious plane crash in Bosnia and was found outside the plane with an apparent bullet wound in his skull.  The book "Ron Brown's Body" paints a chilling picture of what plot likely led to the death of Brown -- who was about to be indicted -- and the 30+ others on the U.S. military 737 that crashed into the hillside.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:25 | 6859694 847328_3527
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That's odd, isn't it?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 03:33 | 6859916 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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Yeah, the whole country bombed to shreds over a blowjob.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:53 | 6859618 Niall Of The Ni...
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Ah, yes, Kosovo. The gift Hillary gave to Huma to get in her panties. 

What's a few dead Christians when a dyke's got an itchy pussy?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 03:54 | 6859936 cookies anyone
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No he screwd Medlin Albright... Ugh, how can you stuff it in that dried plum, ugly shiksa I have no clue...

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:57 | 6859633 memento_mori
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Albanians are my favorite people in the Balkans.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:35 | 6859712 DogOfSinope
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If you say that you're an heroin junkie I'll have some sympathy for your sentiment. 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:44 | 6859727 memento_mori
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I certainly cant have sympathy for the Serbs that went berserk killing all their defenceless neighbors regardless of nationality, age, sex or religion. Serbs commited some of the most appalling massacres in recent history that you cant even find in the remote tribal places of Africa. Real savages.  A good percentage of Serb population who served under milosevic are war criminals roaming free in Serbia and other countries as asylum seekers. The current Serb government is made of war criminals and is nothing but Russia's bitch in the balkans. 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:58 | 6859755 22winmag
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Yeah, yeah Washington can say the Serbs are the bad guys, but that doens't make it so.

 

Let's not forget the Albanians (present day KLA "terrorists") were the only foreign fighting force allowed to wear the SS patch.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:06 | 6859771 DogOfSinope
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And Kosovo is now 90% Albanians - how? 

Actually, Albanians ethnically cleansed Serbs, Roma, Macedonians, Montegrins. Even Turks!

Your bullshit doesn't add up.

And now, since you dynamited all historical monuments and century old churches, flattened all christian graveyards and murdered and expelled all other nations you feel compelled to go to other countries and murder people there - you are just a barbaric tribe:

http://english.albeu.com/news/news/kosovo-and-albania-among-countries-wi...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:27 | 6859806 memento_mori
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Albanian population was always the majority in Kosovo throughout history, wherever reliable historical records exists they always show a clear Albanian majority.

It is rather sad how a lot of Serbian commenters in various news websites try so very hard to draw parallels between Kosovo Albanians and Islam. However when one looks at the reality, Muslim countries (more often than not) align themselves with Serbia on the global stage. Take for example the recent vote at UNESCO on a bid for Kosovo's membership. Countries such as Lebanon, Iran, Syria and Palestine voted on the side of Serbia whereas countries like Iceland, Norway, Germany, Italy, France, UK, Australia and many other western countries voted on the side of Kosovo.

Another distinction that I think is important to make is the fact that the 2004 riots were against Serbia and not against Christianity. Today, in the heart of Prishtina, you have the biggest Catholic cathedral in the Balkans few hundred meters from the city's mosque. If Albanian's were against Christianity, as you are trying to portray so hard, then wouldn't they have burnt this cathedral?

While I do not condone what happened in 2004, the main reason why Serbian churches were targets of these rioters, was not actually because they were churches, but merely because of their complicit role in the 1999 war. No Serbian religious leader came out during the war and called upon their government to stop the killing and expulsion of almost 1 million Albanians from their ancestral lands. Instead, they blessed those troops before they left to go on and commit terrible crimes such as the one in Racak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C4%8Dak_massacre).

Also, the attack against Serb monuments was the act of hooligans when Kosovo was under UN administration where the destruction of hundred of Albanian mosques and catholic churches by the Serb army was a premeditated act of Serbia state.

Have you noticed that every time you google the word Serbia the next suggestion in line is “war crimes”. There is a reason for it.

http://www.hrw.org/news/2000/03/20/serb-gang-rapes-kosovo-exposed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_Children_Massacre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia_in_the_Yugoslav_Wars

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 02:00 | 6859835 DogOfSinope
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Dude, please stop embarrassing yourself.

You take pride in the fact that NATO created and administered fake "state" that is unrecognised by UN and countries like China, India, Brazil, Russia, Mexico, EU members Spain, Greece, Romania, Slovakia and even Israel, Iran and Vatican, etc. (80% of mankind) is supported by NATO countries in stealing Serbian historical heritage? The very churches and monasteries that you are systematically destroying?

Have you any morale? Seems like the last Albanian with real honour was Georg Kastrioti. 

Of course that you failed! Thank God, not all countries are US lap dogs.

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 02:05 | 6859840 Johnny Horscaulk
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Except - he iis basically right about it being mostly albanian for centuries but - its complicated.

http://www.historytoday.com/robert-bideleux/kosovos-conflict

But it should be obvious that the us/nato were not there to stop genocide - the very idea is absurd. They were there to attack russian allies.

Behind and beyond the propaganda: Why is the US bombing Serbia?
By David North
2 April 1999
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/1999/04/koso-a02.html?view=article_mobile

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 03:23 | 6859907 DogOfSinope
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Sorry, but history article written at the time of the height of NATO propaganda war in preparation for bombing Serbia, by an Argentinian guy who studied in Brazil and worked in UK is not what I'd call an reliable and impartial reference.

BTW, the whole Balkan perpetual-war-of-everybody-aganst-everybody thing as commonly presented is also bullshit.

For example, there was no conflict between Albanians and Serbs pretty much before the late 17th century, when it was instrumented by Ottomans. Some Albanian national heroes are regarded as heroes by Serbs, too - to this date. For example George Castriot (Skenderbeg).

There was no conflict between Croats and Serbs before WWII - when it was instrumented by nazis. Even then it was one third of Croat nazi collaborators agains Serbs and other two thirds of Croats.

Balkan does have a history of conflict, but most of the time it was conflict between major powers in which local populace had no say and were mere victims.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 11:32 | 6860802 memento_mori
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Had the US not intervened, we would have a second Palestine in the balkans today with more than 1 million albanian refugees in neighboring albania and macedonia. Serb army had driven out of Kosovo all its population, the history is so recent, do some research. Kosovo intervention is probably the most successful and morally right one by the US.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 03:51 | 6859935 cookies anyone
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You sir are a moron

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 07:48 | 6860068 Lucky Leprachaun
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I believed that talk about the Serbs. Until I did a lot of detailed research, including work in the field. Essentially the Serbs were no worse than any of the other ex-Yugoslavians (I'm excluding Slovenes here). The anti-Serb propaganda and then warfare was a surrogate continuation of the war against Russia.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 07:45 | 6860065 Lucky Leprachaun
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That says more about you than it does about the Albanians.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:25 | 6859692 847328_3527
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All the Infidels, non-ethic, non-believers pls step to the right and take a number; you will be beheaded in an orderly fashion.

 

Women non-believers step to the left and line up alphabetically for the next bus to the Stoning Grounds.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:00 | 6859758 22winmag
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Occupied Kosovo.

 

NATO construct and naked land grab.

 

The Balkans is the original powder keg. Plenty of blame and bloodshed to go around.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:09 | 6859768 Paracelsus
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Would be interesting to see the Cancer stats for the area.The A-10 warthogs used

depleted Uranium in the gatling gun shells.

Left a mess in the Balkans,Iraq,Afghanistan,everywhere.

I remember watching the Serbs jumping up and down on the wing of the stealth fighter burning

and thinking "NOPE.DON'T EVEN BREATHE THAT STUFF,BITCH!!"

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:13 | 6859786 22winmag
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NATO wasted some serious ordnance blowing up log cannons and inflatable tanks in the former Yugoslavia in 1999.

 

Got a couple planes shot down to include an F-117 or two.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 03:49 | 6859932 cookies anyone
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Talked with some people... there is no family without miscariage or cancer. BTW 15 % from the refugees/invaders were from Kosovo, not Syria...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 01:32 | 6859817 SharkBit
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Perfect candidate for fast track EU and NATO membership.  Go Johnny Go.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 02:48 | 6859885 Peter Pan
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The Kosovo parliamentarians are on the right track. They just need to upgrade from tear gas to sarrin and the job will be complete.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 03:26 | 6859910 trader1
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quite an orderly exit.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 03:47 | 6859929 cookies anyone
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Kosovo, de herpes of EU. The vehabi abomination in the middle of Yurop. Thanks USA

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 04:51 | 6859964 Fireman
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Not so much a fascist USSA sewer with a Pentacon Kill Industries terror base...more a Pentacon Kill Industries terror base that prtetends it is a country.

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/kosovo-s-mafia-state-and-camp-bondsteel-tow...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 07:43 | 6860063 Lucky Leprachaun
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Big into the body parts business as well.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 07:56 | 6860074 bunnyswanson
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Skeletal structures/bones for dental implants are priced more per ounce than gold.  Funeral parlors are making a killing (yikes!).

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 06:03 | 6859999 Dr. Bonzo
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SMFH. People just do NOT get it. Why does this surprise anyone? I've seen this Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Thailand. Behavior Unbecoming a Parliamentarian from parliamentarians. Why? Because political systems aren't fucking iphones. Any 13th century goatherder can have an iphone drop on his head and learn to operate the menu and phone functions in 2 hours without any understanding of the underlying technology that makes the phone operate. Tech is designed to be operated by morons. The AK47 is a perfect example. Goddamned things can even be manufactured by morons with a threadbare understanding of mechanical principles.

But tech isn't a sociopolitical ecosystem. This is exactly what the Masters of the fucking Universe just don't fucking get on their way to Utopia. Dropping a democractic system on the selfsame head of the aforementioned goatherder isn't the same as consumer tech.

The modern nation state never developed in the 3rd world. There has been no cultural evolution of the extensive and complex processes that make the modern nation state function in 3rd world shitholes. I'm not blaming them; it just didn't happen. So... airdropping your McMocracy DIY Kit from a C-17 onto these backwater shitholes and expecting to see Jeffersonian debates with pounding gavel and wise men making beautific proclomations about human dignity is a fucking pipe dream. Doesn't matter that Kosovo existed in the shadow of Greek democracy... it was a province of the Ottomans for centuries and run like a shithole while feudal European states' political systems evolved. It never happened for those people.

At any rate, why should we care. Our own republic is on the brink of extinction from all sides. Both through the importation of the 3rd world goatherders who just want the freebies and the 1%er Masters of the Universe who think they're the modern embodiment of godheads and are slowly achieving their dreams of one global corporate superstate. We're rushing headlong toward an ugly balkanization right in our own cities as we speak. Oh what a spectacle it's going to be.

LMFAO.....

In the words of the immortal Charles Bukowski, "Humanity, you never had it to begin with."

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 06:53 | 6860027 Joe A
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This is not the first time nor will it be the last time they used tear gas to obstruct the vote. Kosovo is a failed state run by a gang of thugs. It is also a big supplier of IS fighters. Serbs in Kosovo are harrassed on a daily basis. Just this morning somebody threw a handgranate into a shop full with Serbs in a Serb enclave village. http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes.php?yyyy=2015&mm=12&dd=01&nav_id=96210

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 07:22 | 6860048 PleasedToMeatYou
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I'm jealous.  I wish US Congressman would disrupt their meetings to define, budget and appropriate funds for oligarchical agendas. 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 07:38 | 6860060 Lucky Leprachaun
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Kosovo is the exemplar par excellence of demographic warfare. The former Serb/Christian majority found itself a minority within a few generations as a result of massive Albanian/Muslim immigration and the latter's vastly higher birthrate. Once the demographic majority had been achieved on cue came calls from the West for majority rule. To be followed by the Kosovan War and mass destruction of Serbia by NATO.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 08:23 | 6860109 Max UK
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This.^^^

Europe's future.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 08:37 | 6860128 Max UK
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And that is in spite of the fact, that unlike the poor Kurds who are stateless, Albanians already have their own country next door, with defined borders and nobody was bothering them there. Kosovo was an Albanian land grab pure and simple.

The message from the Balkans is clear; sizeable minorities involving clashes of culture and heritage, is the most potent ammo for the divide-and-conquer globalists to rule the world. It's happening before our eyes, across Europe.

Step one: create the sizeable minorities, who will be stooges for TPTB.

Step two: cite the sizeable minorities as the reason to make it a sin for the indigenous population to show any patriotism or pride, or to speak out against immigration. Make it a crime to compile stats on ethnic composition on any social metric, which is also useful cover to hide the fact that the same 0.5% of the population everywhere, has 90% of the control.

Step three: use the resultant powder-keg of societal tensions, to perpetuate weak consensus governments, hostage to social disorder which can be orchestrated at any time, and which will justify state repression. The 0.5% will always remain the real control behind the throne.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:36 | 6861429 Lucky Leprachaun
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+100

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 11:33 | 6860805 memento_mori
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the truth is there was never any serb majority in kosovo and birth rates between serbs and albanias are similar. get yout facts right.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 08:08 | 6860086 Lazane
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These muslims have got to be the most angry malcontented mortals on planet earth. It does not matter where you look, if you see anger malcontented vicious violence operating, you can be assured that muslims are involved. When is enough, enough, decidedly by a majority of peaceful, righteous, folks who will not stand for this kind of behavior any longer? The Urantia Book says that muslims are mad at Abraham, hence they are not able to accept the destiny which was left to them. Either way it seems that this unsettled violence can only end for muslims in one brutal and decisive way.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 08:39 | 6860130 hangemhigh77
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Get rid of the cops! LET THEM FIGHT!!!

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 09:56 | 6860414 Carl LaFong
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This is just a microcosm of the coming chaos in the EU....

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 10:18 | 6860489 MadVladtheconquerer
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This is newsworthy?  Now, if the gallery had been sprayed w/ small arms fire!

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 10:24 | 6860515 Graph
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Remember, Kosovo was beloved 51-st State of USA back in 1999.

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