Erdogan Says Will Resign If Oil Purchases From ISIS Proven After Putin Says Has "More Proof"

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“I’ve shown photos taken from space and from aircraft which clearly demonstrate the scale of the illegal trade in oil and petroleum products,” Vladimir Putin told reporters earlier this month on the sidelines of the G-20 summit in Antalya. Putin was of course referencing Islamic State’s illicit and highly lucrative oil trade, the ins and outs of which we’ve documented extensively over the past two weeks:

Turkey’s move to shoot down a Russian Su-24 warplane near the Syrian border afforded the Russian President all the motivation and PR cover he needed to expose Ankara’s alleged role in the trafficking of illegal crude from Iraq and Syria and in the aftermath of last Tuesday’s “incident,” Putin lambasted Erdogan. “Oil from Islamic State is being shipped to Turkey,” Putin said while in Jordan for a meeting with King Abdullah. In case that wasn’t clear enough, Putin added this: “Islamic State gets cash by selling oil to Turkey.”

To be sure, it’s impossible to track the path ISIS oil takes from extraction to market with any degree of precision. That said, it seems that Islamic State takes advantage of the same network of smugglers, traders, and shipping companies that the KRG uses to transport Kurdish crude from Kurdistan to the Turkish port of Ceyhan. From there, the oil makes its way to Israel and other markets (depending on which story you believe) and if anyone needs to be thrown off the trail along the way, there’s a ship-to-ship transfer trick that can be executed off the coast of Malta. The maneuver allegedly makes the cargoes more difficult to track. 

Some believe Erdogan’s son Bilal - who owns a marine transport company called BMZ Group - is heavily involved in the trafficking of Kurdish and ISIS crude. Most of the ships BMZ owns are Malta-flagged. 

In light of the above, some have speculated that Turkey shot down the Su-24 in retaliation for Russia’s bombing campaign that recently has destroyed over 1,000 ISIS oil trucks. Here’s what Syrian Information Minister Omran al-Zoub said on Friday:

“All of the oil was delivered to a company that belongs to the son of Recep [Tayyip] Erdogan. This is why Turkey became anxious when Russia began delivering airstrikes against the IS infrastructure and destroyed more than 500 trucks with oil already. This really got on Erdogan and his company’s nerves. They’re importing not only oil, but wheat and historic artefacts as well."

Al-Zoub isn’t alone in his suspicions. In an interview with RT, Iraqi MP and former national security adviser, Mowaffak al Rubaie - who personally led Saddam to the gallows - said ISIS is selling around $100 million of stolen crude each month in Turkey. Here are some excerpts: 

“In the last eight months ISIS has managed to sell ... $800 million dollars worth of oil on the black market of Turkey. This is Iraqi oil and Syrian oil, carried by trucks from Iraq, from Syria through the borders to Turkey and sold ...[at] less than 50 percent of the international oil price."

 

"Now this either get consumed inside, the crude is refined on Turkish territory by the Turkish refineries, and sold in the Turkish market. Or it goes to Jihan and then in the pipelines from Jihan to the Mediterranean and sold to the international market.”

 

“Money and dollars generated by selling Iraqi and Syrian oil on the Turkish black market  is like the oxygen supply to ISIS and it’s operation,” he added. “Once you cut the oxygen then ISIS will suffocate.”

 

"There isn't a shadow of a doubt that the Turkish government knows about the oil smuggling operations. The merchants, the businessmen [are buying oil] in the black market in Turkey under the noses – under the auspices if you like – of the Turkish intelligence agency and the Turkish security apparatus."

 

“There are security officers who are sympathizing with ISIS in Turkey. They are allowing them to go from Istanbul to the borders and infiltrate ... Syria and Iraq.”

 

“There is no terrorist organization which can stand alone, without a neighboring country helping it – in this case Turkey.”

That's pretty unequivocal. But it gets better.

On Monday, Putin was back at it, saying that Russia has obtained new information that further implicates Turkey in the Islamic State oil trade. “At the moment we have received additional information confirming that that oil from the deposits controlled by Islamic State militants enters Turkish territory on industrial scale," Putin said on the sidelines of the climate change summit in Paris. "We have traced some located on the territory of the Turkish Republic and living in regions guarded by special security services and police that have used the visa-free regime to return to our territory, where we continue to fight them."

"We have every reason to believe that the decision to down our plane was guided by a desire to ensure security of this oil’s delivery routes to ports where they are shipped in tankers," he added, taking it up another notch still. 

As for Erdogan, well, he "can't accept" the accusations which he calls "not moral":

  • ERDOGAN: TURKEY CAN'T ACCEPT RUSSIA CLAIMS THAT IT BUYS IS OIL

Hilariously, the man who just finished starting a civil war just so he could regain a few lost seats in Parliament and who would just as soon throw you in jail as look at you if he thinks you might be a threat to his government, now says he will resign if Putin (or anyone else) can present "proof": “We are not that dishonest as to buy oil from terrorists. If it is proven that we have, in fact, done so, I will leave office. If there is any evidence, let them present it, we’ll consider [it]." 

Hold your breath on that.

And so, the Turkey connection has been exposed and in dramatic fashion. Unfortunately for Ankara, Erdogan can't arrest Vladimir Putin like he can award winning journalists and honest police officers who, like Moscow, want to see the flow of money and weapons to Sunni militants in Syria cut off. 

The real question is how NATO will react now that Turkey is quickly becoming a liability. Furthermore, you can be sure that the US, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar (who are all heavily invested in the Sunni extremist cause in Syria), are getting nervous. No one wants to see this blown wide open as that would mean the Western public getting wise to the fact that it is indeed anti-ISIS coalition governments that are funding and arming not only ISIS, but also al-Nusra and every other rebel group fighting to wrest control of the country from Assad. Worse, if it gets out that the reason the US has refrained from bombing ISIS oil trucks until now is due to the fact that Ankara and Washington had an understanding when it comes to the flow of illicit crude to Cehyan, the American public may just insist on indicting "some folks." 

Remember, when it comes to criminal conspiracies, the guy who gets caught first usually ends up getting cut loose. It will be interesing to see if Erdogan starts to get the cold shoulder from Ankara's "allies" going forward.

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Mon, 11/30/2015 - 15:40 | 6857709 Truther
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What do you expect from a Turkish Lying Scum, and traitor to the free world. Nothing but scum.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 15:41 | 6857714 Looney
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It’s time for the US-led coalition to start bombing… Turkey?  ;-)

Looney

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 15:49 | 6857750 the phantom
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Tyler-  Please post a caption contest for these 2 pics of Putin and Obama.  Priceless.

 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/obama-putin-discuss-syria-ukraine-du...

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 15:51 | 6857760 AssFire
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Time for a 50 mile "no traffic" zone in Syria along the Turkey border.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 15:53 | 6857776 fudge
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Erdogan has a US passport and plans on hiding in a 'safe' place with his billions
Mon, 11/30/2015 - 15:55 | 6857782 nuubee
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I hope he has a lot of red-haired communications lecturers to surround himself with.

 

If the Russians come looking, she can find some muscle to remove them, because she's a strong and independent woman.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 15:56 | 6857794 Soul Glow
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The timing of this news is interesting.  Only after the Paris attacks does this come out when KGB intel should have known oil was streaming through Turkey for at least the last year.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 16:00 | 6857813 pods
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They did not buy any of that oil, they merely facilitated the transport of it to market. 

See how easy that is?  Just think like a sociopath and it gets easier to see the meaning in what they say.

Just like 'I did not have sex with that woman." Bill was correct, cause down where he is from, eatin ain't cheatin!

pods

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 16:04 | 6857843 quintago
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pictures not good enough for your erdogan?

 

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/turkey-buying-oil-isis-syrian-army-releases-pho...

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 16:19 | 6857942 strannick
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Deny deny deny and  then make counter accusations.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 16:26 | 6857973 laser
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What are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes. - Erdogan

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 16:55 | 6858116 philosophers bone
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Will Obama and other NATO leaders make the same pledge as Erdogan if their countries bought ISIS oil.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 17:59 | 6858385 MalteseFalcon
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"Erdogan Says Will Resign If Oil Purchases From ISIS Proven After Putin Says Has "More Proof"

Psyche!!

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 18:24 | 6858473 Nage42
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It was my understanding that being caught with evidence of money laundering and terrorist financing led to a more serious problem than a hand-slap and having to resign (to the comfort of your laundered billions...)...

But then I remembered the asymetry of the ruling class: do as I say, not as I do.  And we are all equal, but some are more equal than others.

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 19:02 | 6858626 Anonymous User
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Here's Erdogan on the new job after resigning:

Now DANCE !

http://goo.gl/EeUp0h

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 19:47 | 6858787 Baby Bladeface
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Erdogan bodyguards in Paris push away Russian reporter asking about support of ISIS:

https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.ru/lifenews.ru/news/172668

original (Russian):

http://lifenews.ru/news/172668

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 20:17 | 6858911 Keyser
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Erdogan better pack his bags then, because it has already been definitively proven that Syrian and Iraqi oil has been flowing through Turkey... Oil has a chemical signature which can be traced... Oil from Syria and Iraq has already been found in the supply lines of Exxon and BP... Suck on that Erdoscum... 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 20:56 | 6859049 TahoeBilly2012
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I am going to put this story out to my naysaying friends and ask them if it's now fair to question the offical story of 9/11. Does this change anyone's mind in that regard?

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 21:41 | 6859197 Rock On Roger
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No.

I still believe WTC 7 fell down in sympathy of the Empire's false flag.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:03 | 6859474 Stuck on Zero
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Even if a pipeline and flow meter passes through his bedroom in the palace he'll say he knew nothing about it. PoS

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 02:25 | 6859863 Oh regional Indian
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Turkey was Joo'ed by the Sickular Donmeh's led by Kemal Attaturk.

The massacer of the Armenian Christians' by this gang should rank as one of the worst in recent memory.

Making a most islamic state call itself sickular was a master stroke of deception, as masterful as the crypto cockroach donmehs...

Believe nothing....this game is at least 9 levels deep...

https://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2015/11/27/by-george-oh-well-war-psy-no...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 09:10 | 6860218 newdoobie
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Worst in recent memory? You've got a short memory - Ukrain, Aushwitz, Bosnia, Rwandan, Al Anfal.

Comon ORI you are usually better than this. It's man vs man baby, and man always loses

We think genocide can't happen in todays world... but

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 04:32 | 6859955 researchfix
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There is still the possibility to resign by missile.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 10:48 | 6860626 -.-
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...there’s a ship-to-ship transfer trick that can be executed off the coast of Malta. The maneuver allegedly makes the cargoes more difficult to track. 

 

KURDISH CRUDE DISCHARGED IN ASIA

Over the last couple of weeks, United Dynamic and another Suezmax managed by MMS, United Emblem, have apparently discharged two more cargoes of Kurdish crude around Southeast and North Asia, according to market sources familiar with the developments.

United Emblem did a ship-to-ship transfer in the South China Sea, a Singapore-based shipping agent said. "Very few [people] want to talk about it," the agent said with reference to the secrecy involved and sensitivity of the matter. Names of receivers of the cargoes were not immediately available.

"All this is being done under the radar for obvious reasons," said a VLCC broker in Singapore. The crude from Kurdistan is available at a heavy discount while shipowners charge higher freight for moving the cargoes, he said.

 

Hey, Mr. Durden, you might use your ability to check out this information...

 

I posted several articles discussing the nature of the Brett Shipping Routes, the ships, their ports of exit/entry, and finally I found implicating evidnence to connect TC1's shipping route, the unconventional ship2ship transfer, and the hush-hush environ surrounding it.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:53 | 6859620 Luc X. Ifer
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Ataturk to the reque of secualr Turkey!

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:25 | 6859693 beemasters
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"Erdogan Says Will Resign If Oil Purchases From ISIS Proven"

And I will run around naked around the block if Erdogan resigns.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 19:15 | 6858689 Paveway IV
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"...It will be interesing to see if Erdogan starts to get the cold shoulder from Ankara's "allies" going forward..."

Cold shoulder? For Christ's sake, Tyler... if Erdogan goes down, he's going to make damn sure his foreign backers go down, too.

In other words, Erdogan isn't simply a liability. He is a risk to the political careers of all the slime-balls who facilitated fake ISIS, and he can name names and countries. If Russia does present evidence (and there's no reason they can't), Erdogan's shelf life will go to 0 and he will have to be eliminated. Not fired or overthrown - the West and Gulf cronies will have to have him eliminated so he can never squeal on them. I give him three weeks tops if evidence comes out. 

That would be my simplistic knee-jerk assumption, but we're talking Putin here. Putin will just let Erdogan know - through back channels - what he has on Erdogan and his crime family. Erdogan will protect his own interests first, so he'll have to weigh what everyone else has on him. If the threat of political damage from Russia trumps what everyone else has on him, then he'll become Putin's lap-dog. Trouble is that everybody probably has something on that slimeball, so he may do what psychopaths do when backed into a corner: go full-retard. That will be bad for everyone.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 20:03 | 6858848 Baby Bladeface
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Is certain that Putin at G20 would never hinted even that G20 member state involved ISIS financing unless solid evidence has.

In KGB days was lawyer and specialist expertise international law.

Now in Paris he tells with more proof Erdogan complicity and never would any such thing saying unless the airtight case, evidence not disputable.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:33 | 6859414 Paveway IV
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True, BB. Putin was never a simple field operative 'spy' in the KGB. He chooses his words very carefully just like a lawyer and diplomat. I've never heard him exaggerate or make empty threats. If he suggests there is more evidence against Erdogan, then he already has plenty of solid proof. I would love to see Putin destroy the Erdogan mafia very openly and in public, but he would never do such a low-class thing.

Erdogan is too thick-headed and hot-tempered to take the hint. It sounds like Erdogan mistakes Putin's very reserved and diplomatic words of warning as a bluff.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 09:13 | 6860235 newdoobie
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Turkish pride and prejudice can get in the way of common sense

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 20:51 | 6859027 Freddie
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I hope Russia finds a subtle way to sink Erdogans' son's oil tankers.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 21:10 | 6859092 bigkahuna
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Pave,

I would think that Putin would have already told Erdogan what he has - and this next step is an escallation by bringing it to the fore front. Putin has been getting shoved around a lot until recently. I am wondering if this is the actual kill shot for Erdogan.

I believe you are correct, E will end up deceased before he can air the laundry, but I am also fairly sure that E has some kind of insurance policy that will drop poison pills on certain people when he gets knocked off. This is the only reason why E is not dead now - IMO...

What say ye?

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 22:17 | 6859324 conscious being
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The official western additude towards Putin maybe turning.

Yesterday, I saw part of the NATO Secretary General, Jens Stoltenberg press conference. A rabid Ukie from "Kiev media", mumbled some Russophobic stuff and then asked two leading questions 1) What will NATO do about any hard men from Donbass showing up in Syria? And 2) Its time for NATO to give Kiev more presents. What new presents does NATO have for Kiev?

I was kind of shocked by the Stoltenberg response. First, he welcomes Russia's participation in Syria. He did get in the obligatory, 'wish they'd leave the moderate head choppers alone.' Second, the important thing to do in Ukraine is faithfully implement all sections of The Minsk Agreements. Camera pans to Kiev reporter flailing his arms around, messing up his hair, yelling ... but of course his mike is now off. All very entertaining. Maybe there is reason for optimism? Maybe the West will rediscover rational self-interest and drop the bankster lapdog agenda?

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 23:21 | 6859504 Paveway IV
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"...Putin has been getting shoved around a lot until recently. I am wondering if this is the actual kill shot for Erdogan..."

I'm not so sure I agree with the characterization that he's been getting shoved around a lot lately. I see a lot of stupid people poking the bear, but that problem is usually self-correcting. I don't think it's the actual kill shot for Erdogan. Whether anyone loves or hates Putin, you have to agree that he's a great diplomat. He will give Erdogan plenty of opportunities to save face and back down gracefully. This didn't sound like any kind of final ultimatum. Nonetheless, Russia is burying a pilot and a marine this week. Putin, like Russia, never forgets. I would hate to be in Erdogan's shoes today.

"...but I am also fairly sure that E has some kind of insurance policy that will drop poison pills on certain people when he gets knocked off. This is the only reason why E is not dead now - IMO..."

That would depend on who pulls the trigger, literally or figuratively speaking. The military in Turkey has always seen itself as the ultimate protector of the State and decides who can rule and for how long. There has always been tension between them and Erdogan and his loyal crony judges. If the military decides Erdogan's reign is over, then they will also make sure his secrets and his cronies die with him.

Turkey isn't a WikiLeaks kind of state - nobody including Erdogan is going to do a document dump of their (or the West's) dirty laundry. None of Erdogan's lackeys in the Turkish government are going to squeal about anything if the military takes him and his cronies out first. Turkish Intelligence is loyal to Erdogan, but they will simply melt away if they are able to and wait for future opportunities rather than poison the well on their way out. That's the way it always works. Loyalty is usually dependent on a regular paycheck - I can't see Turkey being any different in that regard.

The West, Israel and the Gulf States would make sure that their interests are protected. They already probably have secret agreements with either Turkish Intelligence or the Turkish military. And they seem to be pretty good at managing the spin on anything that does get out. It's easy to do when you own the MSM. None of the sheeple pay attention to conspiracy theories on alternative news sites. Those are easily dismissed by the MSMs government mouthpieces.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 04:21 | 6859949 bigkahuna
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Thanks. Great comments and insight.

BK

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 06:55 | 6860028 Ghordius
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+1

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 09:16 | 6860246 newdoobie
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Ahhh, someone who understands the Turks +1

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 12:45 | 6861194 schadenfreude
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I really appreciate your posts.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 20:24 | 6858924 ZD1
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"Will Obama and other NATO leaders make the same pledge as Erdogan if their countries bought ISIS oil."

 

The Obama administration pursued a policy in Libya back in 2011 that ultimately allowed guns to walk into the hands of jihadists linked to the Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL) and al-Qaeda (AQ) in Syria, according to a former CIA officer who co-authored a report on behalf of the Citizen’s Commission on Benghazi (CCB), detailing the gun running scheme says Clare Lopez, a former CIA officer and the primary author of CCB’s interim report, titled How America Switched Sides in the War on Terror, speaking with Breitbart News.

“The Obama administration effectively switched sides in what used to be called the Global War on Terror [GWOT] when it decided to overthrow the sovereign government of our Libyan ally, Muammar Qaddafi, who’d been helping in the fight against al-Qaeda, by actually teaming up with and facilitating gun-running to Libyan al-Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood [MB] elements there in 2011,” explained Lopez. “This U.S. gun-running policy in 2011 during the Libyan revolution was directed by [then] Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and [the late Libya Ambassador] Christopher Stevens, who was her official envoy to the Libyan AQ rebels.”

To avoid having the funds tracked back to the Obama administration, the arms flow to Libya was financed thru the United Arab Emirates, while Qatar served as the logistical and shipping hub, she noted.

“In 2012, the gun-running into Libya turned around and began to flow outward, from Benghazi to the AQ-and-MB-dominated rebels in Syria,” Lopez added. “This time, it was the CIA Base of Operations that was in charge of collecting up and shipping out [surface-to-air missiles] SAMs from Libya on Libyan ships to Turkey for overland delivery to a variety of jihadist militias, some of whose members later coalesced into groups like Jabhat al-Nusra (al-Qaeda’s Syrian affiliate) and ISIS [also known as IS].”

“The downstream consequences of Obama White House decisions in the Syrian conflict are still playing out, but certainly the U.S. – and particularly CIA – support of identifiable jihadist groups associated with the Muslim Brotherhood, Jabhat al-Nusra, Ahrar al-Sham, the Islamic State and other [jihadists] has only exacerbated what was already a devastating situation,” declared Lopez.

 

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/30/benghazi-commission-o...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 04:33 | 6859956 Johnny Horscaulk
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Would NuttyYahoo?

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 18:18 | 6858455 king leon
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If the the purchase of bootleg oil by Turkey from ISIS accusations are proven, then Erdogan said he will resign. That can only mean that Barry has told him to fuck off.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 16:07 | 6857856 RonArgent
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"Obama's Natural Gas War"

 

"What did you expect, He's a Kenyan Oil man ya know"

 

The Juice in the media stopped with most of their Presidential "reporting" strategies after Bush left, didn't they?

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 16:07 | 6857860 Bunghole
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NATO isnt going to do shit to Turkey.

The sole reason Turkey is allowed in NATO is their location and potential to blockade the Bosphorous Straights.

The same reason Greater Israel wants to control the Suez Canal and the Red Sea.

Location, location, location.

 

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 19:30 | 6858740 Battlefield USA
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It may have already...

TURKEY BLOCKADING RUSSIA FROM DARDANELLES; BLACK SEA FLEET COMPLETELY CUT OFF

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/587

https://youtu.be/THUBOVREsTs

A video that seemingly bolsters Russian claims of Turkish government complicity with the Islamic State

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/chilling-video-shows-nato-member-state-...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:31 | 6859700 Paveway IV
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By international law, Turkey can only legally block the Straits from a country's shipping/navy if it is already at war with that country or it has been threatened (militarily) with aggression. Blocking passage of Russia's ships or navy today would be illegal, but more importantly it would be tantamount to an act of war against Russia. Turkey would have to seize or fire on Russian vessels to stop them - this hasn't happened. Any blockade would be top news on every shipping publication, especially those dealing with Mediterranean maritime traffic. It has been reported on exactly zero of those sites so far.

All reports of a blockade seem to link back to a single Alex Jones InfoWars claim. They are misinterpreting the legal meaning of 'threatened with aggression' in the Montreaux convention. And InfoWars is (once again) mis-interpreting the real-time maritime tracking data. Russian [RU] flagged ships are approaching and leaving the Straits at both ends, and they're certainly not flying over it. Either Russian ships have turned off their transponders, or the tracking sites have chosen to black out identification of certain shipping in Straits for security reasons. They did the same thing in the Gulf of Aden/Red Sea area right after Saudi Arabia started bombing Yemen. 

In any case, Turkey has not declared war on Russia, nor has Russia declared war on Turkey. Nobody is blocking the straits.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 03:29 | 6859913 Bay of Pigs
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Thanks. So why listen to Alex Jones?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:35 | 6859708 beemasters
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fat fingers!

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 00:34 | 6859711 beemasters
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When they deliberately overlooked Turkey's oil sale for ISIS, US/NATO thought they had Turkey in the palm of their hands and would use it as a leverage over Erdogan...until Russia spoiled their best-laid plan.

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 16:16 | 6857912 Ass Burger
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"See how easy that is? Just think like a <strikethrough>sociopath</strikethrough> lawyer and it gets easier to see the meaning in what they say."

 

ftfy

Mon, 11/30/2015 - 16:49 | 6858088 OldPhart
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Government's will topple once TRUTH is out.  Imagine Obama's War Criminal Administration dealing with actual Truth.

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