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Ron Paul Rages "The War On Terror Is Creating More Terror"
Submitted by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,
The interventionists will do anything to prevent Americans from seeing that their foreign policies are perpetuating terrorism and inspiring others to seek to harm us. The neocons know that when it is understood that blowback is real – that people seek to attack us not because we are good and free but because we bomb and occupy their countries – their stranglehold over foreign policy will begin to slip.
That is why each time there is an event like the killings in Paris earlier this month, they rush to the television stations to terrify Americans into agreeing to even more bombing, more occupation, more surveillance at home, and more curtailment of our civil liberties. They tell us we have to do it in order to fight terrorism, but their policies actually increase terrorism.
If that sounds harsh, consider the recently-released 2015 Global Terrorism Index report. The report shows that deaths from terrorism have increased dramatically over the last 15 years – a period coinciding with the “war on terrorism” that was supposed to end terrorism.
According to the latest report:
Terrorist activity increased by 80 per cent in 2014 to its highest recorded level. …The number of people who have died from terrorist activity has increased nine-fold since the year 2000.
The world’s two most deadly terrorist organizations, ISIS and Boko Haram, have achieved their prominence as a direct consequence of US interventions.
Former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Michael Flynn was asked last week whether in light of the rise of ISIS he regrets the invasion of Iraq. He replied, “absolutely. …The historic lesson is that it was a strategic failure to go into Iraq.” He added, “instead of asking why they attacked us, we asked where they came from.”
Flynn is no non-interventionist. But he does make the connection between the US invasion of Iraq and the creation of ISIS and other terrorist organizations, and he at least urges us to consider why they seek to attack us.
Likewise, the rise of Boko Haram in Africa is a direct result of a US intervention. Before the US-led “regime change” in Libya, they just were a poorly-armed gang. Once Gaddafi was overthrown by the US and its NATO allies, leaving the country in chaos, they helped themselves to all the advanced weaponry they could get their hands on. Instead of just a few rifles they found themselves armed with rocket-propelled grenades, machine guns with anti-aircraft visors, advanced explosives, and vehicle-mounted light anti-aircraft artillery. Then they started killing on a massive scale. Now, according to the Global Terrorism Index, Boko Haram has overtaken ISIS as the world’s most deadly terrorist organization.
The interventionists are desperate to draw attention from the fact that their policies contribute to terrorism. After the Paris attacks, neocons like former CIA director James Woolsey actually pinned the blame on NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden! He claimed that because of Snowden’s revelations about NSA surveillance the terrorists were using sophisticated encryption. He even called for Snowden to be hanged because of it. But it was untrue: the Paris attackers did not use encryption, and other groups had used encryption long before the Snowden revelations.
Terrorism is increasing worldwide because of US and western interventionism. That does not mean that if we suddenly followed a policy of non-interventionism the world would become a peaceful utopia. But does anyone really believe that continuing to do what increases terrorism will lead to a decrease in terrorism?
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My president.
The practice of Islam necessitates terrorizing infidels into submission. "Submission" being the proper translation of "Islam" The borders of Islam have been very bloody and remain so, since jihad began, 12 to 13 centuries ago.
I can understand why he isn't saying that the "terrorists" and the Red Shield-aligned governments are the same thing.
I can understand.
“Once a government resorts to terror against its own population to get what it wants, it must keep using terror against its own population to get what it wants. A government that terrorizes its own people can never stop. If such a government ever lets the fear subside and rational thought return to the populace, that government is finished.”
> -Michael Rivero
michael rivero just copies things other people say...He checks his email everyday, and just copies and links the articles people send to him without even investigating if they are true. Then he asks for money. While he goes on vacation. His accuracy rating is below 20%, and when he is right, its things such as "the economy is getting worse"...I quit rivero years ago...I have a dozen more reasons but just saying.
i don't feel like ron paul was "raging" about anything. RP always looks pretty calm to me, which is one of the things I admire about him.
Along similar lines the "war" against murders in Chicago is just creating more murders. We need to surrender and submit to anyone with a medium sized knife or greater.
It's not like we have no historical precedents to make reference to:
War on Poverty - One in every two households in US now on some form of federal assistance; Detroit completely destroyed by progressive efforts to eradicate poverty by subsidizing it, other cities on the brink; permanent underclass of inner city impoverished, broken families.
War on Drugs - No measurable impact on abuse rates; Mexico, the nation through which much of the illegal drugs destined for the US travels has been hopelessly, systemically corrupted; our nation's prisons are full of drug offenders whose crimes were victimless but whose lives are now destroyed.
War on Terror - principle instrument of the state for the imposition of surveillance and controls upon the domestic population and cover under which the militarization of local police forces has been accomplished; the new language of incumbent parties in describing their political adversaries; the greatest threat to liberty in the history of the American Republic.
SearcHable Ron,
Its not the war on terror.I Its Therese if terror. America createdcandvfunds ISIS.
Its not good intentions gone wrong. Its the blackest deceptive cruelest evil.
America ruins the world to rule it.
The warmongers=terrorists actually have the gall to say that neither Russia nor Syria have any right to protect themselves, their people or land. They've actually said that the Syrians do not have a right to protect their sovereignty, the Syrian people have no right to vote for the leader of their choice, and they say Russia should mind their own business and get off of NATO's doorstep...
How ridiculous is all of that?
Hey, Russia menaced the space we crowded into, that was on their doorstep...so they need to back away. Just saying...
/sarc needed here?
The war on terrorism is creating more terror?
<--- well, duh!
<--- it's a feature, not a bug.
And the zionists, wall street and mic have bought and paid for, and heavily infiltrated and compromised the us government...
We did not CREATE ISIS. Our government renamed them from Al Qaeda because Obama and Clinton were caught providing arms to Al Qaeda to replace yet another ME leader with Islamo-Statists. They had to rename them so that they could claim it was not a group we were at war with, which would make them guilty of aiding our enemey, the very definition of High Treason.
I'm not sure what Ron Paul was raging about. I do know that Libya is separated by a wide space of territory from Nigeria. Libyan terrorists would be mostly Arabs, one would think, whereas Nigerian terrorists would be mostly black Africans. I find it a little bit of a stretch to think that they would be sharing their booty with each other.
But, as an aside, I would point out that I used to view ZeroHedge as an interesting counter culture take on the stock market. But then gold tanked. Lately, ZH seems to have veered into a lot of geopolitical speculation and mostly forgotten about the the markets.
Well, the markets are all rigged according to ZH conspiracy theory. But in my time monitoring this site, I find it remarkable that the Tylers first said that the FED would never end QE (QE infinity, they said), then that they would never, ever raise interest rates, and now that the FED is clearly signalling that they will do exactly that, ZH predicts ultimate doom if they do so. What, do you imagine, they think the Fed should do? There is no path that doesn't lead to destruction.
They think the fed should end.
Along with neo-Keynesian witch doctory.
i.m.o.
they WILL NOT raise rates. ever again.
RH. Sorry, clicked the downvote by accident. You are absolutely correct in that the site, which I've been lurking at for years, has veered from intellectual counterculture to knee-jerk bias according to groupthink conspiracy theory.
Early days Ron Paul riled up...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyV9Owe3ojA
Maybe if he had someof this spunk later in life he may have became president.
I like some of the ideas that Ron Paul has and fights for, but on other issues (like fighting Islamo-Statists) he is a raging fool, regardless how calmly he presents his raging folly.
I didnt junk you here but Rivero does some great stuff, and youre making a lets-throw-out-baby-too appeal.
Fwiw here's my take on rivero and wrh:
People who deny that conspiracies to include 'false flags' have and do happened are not to be taken seriously. They are closed to new evidence and resistant to amendment once a proposition 'x is y' is offered.
Ipso facto, Rivero has become nearly the opposite. Absolutely everything becomes a secret plot.
This is a basic epistemological issue, and a scientific one:
How can we know that what we *believe to be true* fully and actually 'corresponds' with the facts, with an objective reality (existing independent of our awareness of it - note that when peopke object to an objective reality, ask them if they think the universe will end when they die, too)??
Well - not just 'science' but 'being scientific' and also by being rational, logically valid, and perpetually at least *minimally skeptical* of your beliefs.
To put more simply - if you think you "know" that a Supreme Be-ing does, or does not, exist. - you are wrong. You don't 'know' either way. You have a 'belief' about something you can neither empirically verify, nor (dear Randisns) deduce any *new information* from a tautology such as 'existence exists' (Be-ing is not.... A predicate).
I might posit that perhaps such a being exists, but I may also posit the opposite, but no statement of alleged truth/factity can prove itself true. Nor falsify itself.
No empirical verification or rational and valid deduction from same, no knowledge.
So, back to Rivero, just as avowed theists and atheists make the same epistemological mistake in different conclusory directions, he ought to remember that at all times he may be wrong.
He also should take seriously the serious debunkers of say 9/11 demolition.
Im not going into it again or find an older post but basically I think 911 was pretty obviously an intelligence op, prolly cheney and dod, maybe or maybe not cia and not dia, Very probably involving israeli assets of some kind as well. But, I am in no position to do anything but read a great deal online and try to make guesses here. But an intel op using arab patsies to use airliners to hit those targets.
The official narrative is abject nonsense and nearly everyone with an IQ near mine would at very least fervently believe the same is they spent 3 hours of time honestly researching the issue.
But I think it is entirely possible, perhaps probable, that there were no explosives used, and that there really are coherent, plausible arguments (they do tend to use math, but not all, and math is the best of all hiding places anyway) as to why structural damage and long burning fires, even at low temps, could essentially create a system that eventually loses stability in a chain reaction.
I could be wrong.
But I understand, at least roughly, the math and physics of the question presented. I can read the journal articles.
And I still dont 'know.'
So why does he?
"But I think it is entirely possible, perhaps probable, that there were no explosives used, and that there really are coherent, plausible arguments (they do tend to use math, but not all, and math is the best of all hiding places anyway) as to why structural damage and long burning fires, even at low temps, could essentially create a system that eventually loses stability in a chain reaction.
I could be wrong"
You are.
Another worthless human commenting.
Thats the problem with the world.
Too many stupid people walking the earth, who think they are intelligent and informed, who should know better and shut up, but don't.
Rivero is there to simply take the heat off of the "good jews" who do nothing about the ''bad jews".
They are victims you see.
Of the holocaust.
Send money.
the US and Israel kill more people in weeks than Islamic terrorism has in 20 years, but keep peddling easy answers - blaming 1. Billion muslims and giving Christians and Jews a pass may not be honest or fair or helpful - but its fun to hate the people we've been freedom bombing for the past 20 years, right?
I wonder, if the US were bombed for so long and a proportinal number of people killed if anything WE did to resist would result in comments about Christianity and Judaism being inherently evil.
The middle east was stable for centuries under the Ottomans. That ended with British, French, and Ashkenazi colonialism.
Your comment is ostentatiously ignorant.
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/
http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/07/the-rush-to-blame-muslims-and-the-meani...
http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/06/most-victims-of-islamic-terrorism-are-m...
Stop conflating takfiri psychos (LARGELY IF NOT MOSTLY BACKED BY THE US AND ITS ALLIES) and Saudi Wahhabism, and AfPak Sunni fundamentalism with a cluster of religions constituting 1.3 billion people, the vast majority of whom do NOT support violent jihad.
Yes its in the Koran, but the punishment fir adultery in the bible is stoning to death.
The problem is fundamentalism/literalism and it is worsened by constantly killing members of the faith based on pretexts and lies.
When you have 1.3 billion people, even a tiny % who support violence is millions - fair enough.
But blaming all of a group (a group murdered in far larger numbers by christians and Jews than the reverse these past 100 years) for the actions of a few is supposed to be wrong, to be 'hate,' isnt it?
Or does that ethical caution only apply to Israel/Jews and Christians?
http://youtu.be/YSy6ENVAJlY
Fair enough comment, Hessel. So let's have each religious group, composed mainly of non-sociopaths, clean out their own sociopaths that are giving each religion a bad name. It's better that it be done within the groups, rather than outsiders holding ALL responsible. Of course, they can't do that because of the big money that these sociopaths bring to the group. It's called "selling out."
When Muslims police their own by the book, the moderates and squishy latitudinarians always lose.
Facing Reality: Jewish terrorism is no longer limited to just a few bad seeds
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/09/reality-terrorism-limited
There were over 130 Israeli settler attacks on Palestinians during the first week of October
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/settler-palestinians-october
‘NYT’ and ‘NYRB’ publish important pieces on Jewish terrorism
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/09/publish-important-terrorism
Israel hiding killers who burned Palestinian family alive, minister reveals
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israel-hiding-killers-...
28th November 2015 | International Solidarity Movement, Nablus team | Madama, occupied Palestine
Earlier today, November 28th, a group of Israeli illegal settlers, in the presence of three Israeli soldiers, threatened to burn down a family in the village of Madama, occupied West Bank.
http://palsolidarity.org/2015/11/illegal-israeli-settlers-threaten-to-bu...
judaism promotes and encourages this violence. I mean, since Islam is the problem for Islamic terror, Judaism must be the problem for Jewish terror - right?
http://www.alternet.org/world/how-israel-covers-its-ugly-racial-holy-war
http://www.alternet.org/books/how-kill-goyim-and-influence-people
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?western_support_for_islamic_m...
"rense.com
Israel's Founding - 'Miracle'
Or Land Grab?
By Rev. Ted Pike
8-4-8
Recent articles in Israel's daily Ha'aretz sharply criticize Israel's failure to effectively punish violence of Israeli settlers against Palestinians.
Ha'aretz says of Jewish settlers that "the coexistence approach often seems to make way for violent struggle that aims to deprive the Palestinians of their land." Jewish settlers "openly discuss their intention of making the lives of Arab residents a misery and pushing them out" Israeli media has reported a number of violent attacks by settlers on Palestinians this spring. Yet Ha'aretz complains, "Even those that are heard by a court usually end in acquittal or a light sentence."
The Israeli human rights group Yesh Din "argues that police in the West Bank have failed in completing investigations on suspected attacks against Palestinians there." "The weak arm [of the law] avoids enforcing laws on Israelis living in the West Bank, causing the State of Israel to violate its ethical and international obligations vis-à-vis the population under our control."
Historic Injustice
Is such official injustice toward Palestinians a recent phenomenon in Israel? Hardly. Israel was birthed through terrorizing and expelling Palestinians from their ancestral lands.
Of course, Israel denies it expelled the Palestinians. They say the 700,000 to 800,000 indigenous Palestinians who fled Israel during the 1948 Arab-Israel war deserved to lose their properties; they were disloyal to the emerging State of Israel, defecting to Israel's Arab enemies at a crucial, vulnerable moment in Israel's struggle for nationhood.
Israel says that the Palestinians eagerly obeyed when Arab generals urged the Palestinians to vacate Israel so that the Jews could be slaughtered and driven into the sea. Such refugees, Israel alleges, were confident the conquering Arabs would return their land and property -- and more, once the Zionist experiment in Palestine was destroyed. Considering such alleged treachery, to this moment Israel remains adamant that no property of refugees who fled in 1948 will be returned to them.
What Really Happened
Let's turn from propaganda to reality. Here's what really happened in 1948.
In his book The Revolt, 1 former Prime Minister Menachem Begin, then head of the Zionist terror organization Irgun, recounts how Irgun fighters attacked the small Arab town of Deir Yassin east of Jerusalem on April 9, 1948. Begin ridicules the "Arab hysteria" that says Irgun massacred its inhabitants. Yet the International Red Cross was on the scene, even as the butchery continued, counting the maimed and dismembered corpses of 250 men, women, and children. Their representative counted 150 bodies stuffed inside a well. The Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem 2 says, "Of those 250 people, 25 pregnant women were bayoneted in their abdomens while still alive. 52 children were maimed under the eyes of their own mothers, and then they were slain and their heads cut off. Their mothers were in turn massacred and their bodies mutilated." (p.271) (See, Israel: Founded on Terror)
Word of this atrocity quickly spread throughout Palestinian Arabs, causing terrified awe and panic before the ferocity of Irgun. Irgun trucks, mounted with loud-speakers, drove throughout Arab communities, proclaiming in Arabic that if the inhabitants did not flee immediately they would soon experience the same horrific fate. Irgun also loaded trucks with the surviving Muslim women of Deir Yassin, parading them naked through the Jewish quarter of Jerusalem. 3 Such humiliation and insult to Muslim morals and womanhood intensified the searing effect of the massacre. It heightened the mystique that Zionist terrorists were cruel and vindictive beyond imagination.
Begin Tells All -- Almost
Begin, mixing lies with reality, explains further: "The enemy propaganda was designed to besmirch our name. In the result it helped us. Panic overwhelmed the Arabs of Eretz Israel." He tells of strategic Arab towns, resistant to Irgun attacks, suddenly evacuated. "In the rest of the country, too, the Arabs began to flee in terror, even before they clashed with the Jewish forces. Not what happened at Dir Yassin, but what was invented about Dir Yassin, helped to carve the way to our decisive victories on the battlefield. The legend of Dir Yassin helped us in particular in the saving of Tiberius and conquest of Haifa." "Arab headquarters at Ramallah broadcast a crude atrocity story, alleging indiscriminate massacre by Irgun troops of about 240 men, women, and children in Dir Yassin." 4
Begin confirms that indeed word of what happened at Deir Yassin induced Arab commanders to instruct Palestinians to flee. But it was not primarily to avoid the violence of Arab destruction of Israel. At first, Arab leaders commanded Palestinians to stay put. But as butchery by Zionists escalated, most acceded to the fact that the Zionists were capable of such unrestrained atrocities and carnage that literally no Arab was safe in Palestine. A large part of the purpose of the Arab invasion was not just to restore Palestinians to their property but to insure that many more Deir Yassins would not happen in the months ahead. In fact, in the six months following Deir Yassin Zionist troops committed at least nine more massacres against Palestinians, with the Arabs striking back with two against Jews. 5
Begin concludes, "Arabs throughout the country, induced to believe wild tales of "Irgun butchery," were seized with limitless panic and started to flee for their lives. This mass flight soon developed into a maddened, uncontrollable stampede. Of the about 800,000 Arabs who lived on the present territory of the State of Israel, only some 165,000 are still there. The political and economic significance of this development can hardly be overestimated." 6
Zionists Give Chase
Zionist forces, realizing a tremendous opportunity, used whatever means necessary to persuade Arabs to join the stampede. The Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem presents dozens of contemporary accounts, largely from Israelis, describing the Zionist-induced panic of the Arabs and resultant carnage. The preferred strategy was to convince Palestinians that, in view of the present "national emergency" posed by invading Arab armies, Israeli Arabs should flee until hostilities subsided. They could then return to their properties. Of course, this proved a lie. If that stratagem failed, whole Palestinian towns were given the ultimatum to flee immediately, taking only the clothes on their backs. Those who delayed, or attempted to bring belongings, were shot.
Palestinian towns were bombed and strafed from the air. Leaflets threatening massacre were dropped from airplanes. Arabs were mowed down in the streets by machine gun fire. With perhaps 800,000 Arabs in flight, the surrounding Jewish population descended on evacuated Arab towns, ransacking and looting their homes and businesses. In fact, a small "new rich class" was established in Israel as Jews actively bought, sold, and traded the wealth of hundreds of Arab cities, towns, and villages. Meanwhile, many Zionist soldiers robbed fleeing Arabs and raped Arab women. It was imperative to the Zionists that Arab property was destroyed as much as possible, to prevent them from returning. 7
With exodus of the majority of Arabs from Palestine, Begin says the struggle to create a unified state of Israel was largely won. Twelve cities or major towns and 830 small towns and villages were occupied by Zionists. Most were soon bulldozed, replaced by modern Jewish towns or kibbutzes. They were given Jewish names, their original ones soon forgotten. 8 In the decades that followed, Israeli propaganda encouraged the world to believe the original Arab towns never existed. In fact, it says today that before the Israelis created the towns now bearing Jewish names Palestine was empty, virtually deserted land. It says that, untended and underdeveloped by a tiny indolent Arab population, the many Jewish towns, collectives, orchards, and fields in Israel are a testament to fulfillment of divine prophecy that God would make Israel "blossom as the rose."
Who Gave Victory to Israel?
In defense of their Palestinian brethren, the Arab armies at first prevailed over Zionist forces. But then, in what Zionists and evangelicals describe as one of the very greatest miracles of divine intervention on behalf of Israel, Zionists rallied and were able to repulse the Arabs.
In reality, it was not God but Joseph Stalin who delivered Israel. (This was the same Stalin who, 15 years earlier, systematically starved to death five million Ukrainian Kulaks. Their crime? They wanted to grow vegetables in their backyards for themselves, not collectives.) Stalin personally ordered the Skoda Works in communist Czechoslovakia to send massive shipments of the latest arms, equipment, and fighter planes to help Israel in her time of need. Such military firepower, not the power of God or a righteous cause, empowered Israel to prevail.
Most evangelicals believe that mass exodus of the Arabs, making room for "God's chosen people" to dwell in their promised land, plus Israel's victory over vastly outnumbering Arab armies, are two of the greatest miracles of history, making possible Israel's prophesied rebirth as a nation. Zionists, both Jewish and evangelical, believe these are undeniable proofs that God fought and still fights for His people, as in the Old Testament. As a result, Christian America should unflinchingly support Israel today, right or wrong.
We see, however, that Israel was founded by terror and the deviousness of the most wicked men, not God. Her rebirth as a nation happened not because of heaven-sent successes but as a result of something very different:
What the Bible calls "lying wonders" of the last days that "deceive, if possible, even the elect." 9"
http://rense.com/general82/found.htm
Johnny-
you write all that, like its a bad thing.
bessos.
- Las Vegas Dave
http://www.rense.com/general21/pastzionist.htm
I am OK with our enemies suffering disproportionately in relative to us. Does that help?
It only helps show your Ziopathy.
Zionism is a mental disorder.
Load of cobblers. Dropping thousands of tons of bombs on people and destroying their countries tends to piss people off.
"The dangers of falling into Anti-Semitism are very real. Historically, Anti-Semitism has been a major problem, and it continues to be in some parts of the world today. One of the primary ways in which Anti-Semites unfairly targeted Jews was to vilify Halakha, digging up intolerant views in the rabbinical tradition to smear Judaism with.
But herein lies an irony: many Zionist Jews are now joining Anti-Muslim Christians in vilifying the Islamic tradition in a very similar way. Once Halakha was the target of bigots; today, it is Sharia. Rabbi Eliyahu Stern has written an excellent article about this topic, entitled Don’t Fear Islamic Law in America.
I will be applying the same standards our opponents apply to the Islamic tradition to the Jewish one, to show that Judaism is equally vulnerable to such criticisms. It is hoped that this exercise will encourage people of Judeo-Christian background to be more hesitant in vilifying and targeting Islam. This is purely an exercise in thought, a what if scenario (what if we applied the same standards to your religion as you do onto others?) designed to be the antidote to religious and cultural arrogance.
By clarifying that this constitutes an “exercise in thought” one should know that I am not saying Judaism is XYZ because of ABC, but rather simply that if you insist on arguing that Islam is XYZ due to ABC then–based on your own logic–Judaism and Christianity are also XYZ because they too have ABC. This is a what if? and an if-then argument.'
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http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/10/why-religious-zionism-not-judaism-is-th...
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'On April 9, 1948, members of the underground Jewish terrorist group, the Irgun, or IZL, led by Menachem Begin, who was to become the Israeli prime minister in 1977, entered the peaceful Arab village of Deir Yassin, massacred 250 men, women, children and the elderly, and stuffed many of the bodies down wells. There were also reports of rapes and mutilations. The Irgun was joined by the Jewish terrorist group, the Stern Gang, led by Yitzhak Shamir, who subsequently succeeded Begin as prime minister of Israel in the early ’80s, and also by the Haganah, the militia under the control of David Ben Gurian. The Irgun, the Stern Gang and the Haganah later joined to form the Israeli Defense Force. Their tactics have not changed.
The massacre at Deir Yassin was widely publicized by the terrorists and the numerous heaped corpses displayed to the media. In Jaffe, which was at the time 98 percent Arab, as well as in other Arab communities, speaker trucks drove through the streets warning the population to flee and threatening another Deir Yassin. Begin said at the time, “We created terror among the Arabs and all the villages around. In one blow, we changed the strategic situation.”
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http://www.counterpunch.org/2004/05/13/the-deir-yassin-massacre/
By Activestills | April 11, 2014
PHOTOS: Publicly remembering the Deir Yassin massacre
http://972mag.com/photos-publicly-remembering-the-deir-yassin-massacre/8...
Exactly, TBT.
If we are to believe Ron Paul, if we simply stop fighting them, they will suddenly turn peaceful and leave everyone alone.
This is utter stupidity. Their goal is world domination and destruction of all other religions (this includes you, Atheists and Secular Humanists).
Lothrop Stoddard wrote about the violence and dangers of the re-emerging Islam (in The New World of Islam) back in the 1920s, long before we started our War on Terror.
Also, TBT, the number of fools who are downvoting each and every one of your comments proves the unholy alliance between liberals, what I call liberaltarians and the Islamofascists that David Horowitz analyzed so clearly.
Sad to see so many foolish thinkers here on ZH that are willing to defend Islamonazis (who are far worse Statists than the Statists that Ron Paul and his lemmings make an idelogoical movement of denouncing) just because the Islamonazis have targeted two groups that they also depise: the US and the Jews.
Well, who would not got Jihadi Rambo on them, if someone bombed or droned your town, home and friends? Duh!
TWOT is progressing exactly as intended: Bread & Circus, while the Transfer of Wealth continues, and ever more civil and Constitutional Rights are being Wahhabi-raped.
Still more likely to be murdered by your own gummint, than by a terrorist.
The math is different when you live in any culture and location that borders an Islam infected one, for 13 centuries running.
So very many assertions, zero links to proof.
You have very simple concepts in your head, that often leads to hyperbolation like that. Upgrade concepts to lower strain on language units.
Show me a single country bordering islamic lands that isnt beseiged by islamic terrorism. Show me a single country where islam is a significant force that isnt beseiged by the bearded fuckheads barbarian demands threats and intimidating actions. You cant do that can you?
Malaysia and Indonesia are terrorizing their neighbors, huh?
And the US and Israel are not violent, is that right, stupid fuck?
Any muslim countries not bombed by zionist scum or their puppets?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/15/no-islam-isn-t-inherent...
Show me a western country where jews and zionists arent a dangerous warmongering minirity with disproportionate media, financial and political power, you fuckin' zio puke.
"The claim that Adolf Hitler instigated World War II is ahistorical. This is easily proven by analysis of Jewish war agitation and subsequent U.S. foreign policy then and today. It’s eerily similar. Hitler’s guilt was and remains a phantasm. The truth is that Hitler bears less responsibility for the Second World War than the four main Allied powers: Great Britain, the Soviet Union, America, and World Jewry (now Israel).
When the same standards of evidence and intention are applied to Iraq and Iran as to Hitler’s Germany, we cannot but conclude that Americans and Israelis today are guilty of the same sort of baseless provocations and unwarranted aggressiveness against the Middle East as against Europe in WWII. When Jewish war agitation is factored in, there is little difference between what we did to Germany in the 1930s-1940s and what we have done to Iraq, to Syria, and what we plan to do to Iran in 2015 or beyond.
Here we comparatively examine Jewish war agitation against Hitler’s Germany, Hussein’s Iraq, and Islamic Iran. Jewish propaganda and war agitation, with a special focus on the Jewish War Veterans of the United States and the Neocons, played a decisive role in getting America to go to war in 1941, 2003 and possibly again in 2015 (or beyond) against Iran."
http://www.veraiconapublishers.com/?p=2286
http://www.destroyzionism.com/2013/07/17/95-years-ago-jewish-bolsheviks-...
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html
http://www.culturewars.com/Reviews/RevolutionaryReviews.html
' Jewish Revolutionary Spirit coverExcerpts from reviews of The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and Its Impact on World History ($48 + S&H) by E. Michael Jones, Ph.D.
“… to the mortification of decent Jews like myself, Jews are often on the vanguard when it comes to trashing Christian mores and human dignity, and creating dysfunction whether its undermining gender and marriage or peddling promiscuity, pornography or abortion. … Organized Jewry has sought to portray man as inhabiting a mechanistic universe devoid of inherent design and meaning. In this view, God is an impotent fool who neglects His creation, and Christianity is fogbound superstition. … Organized Jewry has used our idealism to deceive us with Socialism, Communism and Zionism. But to warn Jews of this deceit now constitutes ‘anti-Semitism.’ Surely, Jewish leaders who start wars are the real anti-Semites. They create anti-Semitism to keep ordinary Jews in line. … Jones is the foremost scholar of our time and predicament. This is because he studies the masterful Masonic-Jewish takeover of Western civilization now almost complete. … For a complete history of the New World Order from its inception over 2000 years ago, I recommend The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit.” Henry Makow, Ph.D., rense.com.'
Indonesia is already Islamic, so does not border with Islam. It is under submission to Islam. Know your third world shitholes.
Reread the first sentence tou stupid fuck.
Meanwhile Israel's 6 million jews have murdered more civilians in the past 10 years than all the 'islamic terrorists' combined.
Israel was literally founded by terrorists.
http://iamthewitness.com/doc/Bunche.Report.on.Zionist.Terrorism.in.the.N...
http://www.seek-info.com/massacres.htm
http://www.rense.com/general21/pastzionist.htm
And it continues to this day
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/israels-jewish-terrorist-problem
Judaisms racism and violence and hate, as replete in both torah and Talmud, is responsible... According to your own arguments!
got a little problem with Jews, do you?
Johnny, you need to read some books.
I'd start with Srdja Trifkovic's "The Sword of the Prophet."
Spot on TBT. I find it strange there are so many posters on ZH these days who seem possessed by anti-Jew zealotry so much so they can't see the very real threat that Islam is to the rest of the world. It's not as if we don't have 14 centuries of murder, rape, pillage, and mayhem to point to. Christians and Jews have been victimized by the Mohammedans more than other groups; but abuse of Christians and Jews differs only in degree from that of, say, the Hindus.
A rational foreign policy would recognize the threat these satanic monsters pose and structure its immigration policy appropriately, while simultaneously avoiding poking the hornets nest in the ME to the maximum extent possible. Pretty much the exact opposite of US foreign policy alignment since the 1950s.
thatthing:, the anti jew zealotry is a reaction to all the jews in powerful positions in Media Banks Gov Wall st..so there is a there there. perhaps if these jews acted like they wanted honest banks, freedom and sane race and secure borders policy, many here would not point out the facts as they are..
they (jews) are taking all the rope they can to hang themselves with anti semitism.. I have posted many times..the ave honest jews must expose the evil reptiles and call them out.. they do not much like the muslims never expose the mad dog fanatics killing with abandon.
hope this helps
"Remember kid, we're all in this together." Archibald 'Harry' Tuttle - Brazil (the movie)
Tuttle?
Or Buttle?
Too bad Rand isn't like his dad. He's kowtowing to the very people who started terrorism=> http://wp.me/p4OZ4v-Dg
More terror is the goal. The Israeli-neocons who did 9/11 cannot allow that to become a political issue, it takes very much distraction to keep their heads out of nooses.
The chaos is the goal, not a side-effect of terrible methods. I think things make a lot more sense from that pov. Everyone who thought Shrub couldn't be that dumb (me too) and that Obama can't actually want to destroy the US (me to) have an explanation : what the President wants doesn't much matter, they aren't in control. 9/11 was a coup, it is continuing to increase power with every dollar of military spending for another year.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/30/the-next-false-flag/
Shrub was a compliant place holder. Obama became one. How does anyone stand up to the intelligence community + military + federal police, the people who guard your life?
The Clintons were already corrupt, Srub wanted to be. Obama wanted to be, but he didn't want, as I see it, to be as hated by the far left as he is. I that that far left bent is all that is authentic in him.
We have to take back the system. The internet will let us do it, if we can find someone to be honest about 9/11.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/13/why-not-presidential-debat...
If Rand Paul would give up being mainstream and come out very strongly against the wars and the neocons, he could be President, maybe even soon. But he tried to be establishment, and gave up authenticity and anti-establishment stances that would have allowed him to win this election cycle. He did well on easy stuff, gave in on war and Israel. I kept saying this, and have never given him a cent, after donating $1000s to his father.
Rand Paul has not been wise, and our country is suffering for it.
"War on Terrorism" is increasing terror? What did you think it was supposed to do?
We need to keep our soldiers combat ready for the Sino-Russian showdown probably in 2017-2020. Fiat charade is almost finished. Winner will get to impose their new currency system for the next century or two.
I'd expect the Iran - China -Russia alliance vs the US -UK Western Europe alliance to proceed as scheduled:
WW3 begins spring 2016.
It has already begun...in a low level controlled war.
Just like WW2 did in Spain in 1937.
Why align with Iran? Those clowns are one of the most batshit crazy strains in the Mohammadan Death Cult, they are dominated by apocalypse-desiring 12th Imam lunatics who will soon be lobbing nukes every direction...not that in that part of the world I care that much...but they'll trigger a wider exchange and create more enemies. Perhaps it's a case of the crockodile eating you last thing that looks like a short term win...but I would pick a better partner than those crazy fuckers.
Come on. Fiction on the third floor.
What a lovely tantrum, however.
They are now trying to distract from the fact that ISIS is a concerted american creation by claiming it was an accident precipitated by going to war in Iraq.
Islam enables ISIS.
And the Americans take out the secular leadership that keeps them in check.
The Jarett-Obama administration did that, no question about it.
Obama has 1 muslim advisor and has been surround by jewish ones since before he was a candidate. He has also given a very disproportionate number of appointments to jews, but not to muslims. From the fed to treasury to commerce to the council of economic advisors and on and on... Yet you focus on Jarret.
which seems very strange.
http://www.bollyn.com/who-is-barack-obama/
http://www.bollyn.com/the-zionist-criminal-network/
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/po-obamaj.html
Jarret calls the shots, whatever secular JINOs in the third tier and below might prefer
Look man. jooz and all that, but who else holds all the power to aggress against other people but the fucking state???
The Jarret woman is just another Chicago politician. And that is bad enough.
Who hooked the Obamas in and has been their closest advisor ever since.
And what?
Chicago politicians notorious in corruption. How does it surprise that scum floats to the top?
She floated to the very top.
"money" cloaks all things
as a root, underground, is not seen.
But Islam is right there in the name. Weird.
all life forms perform, produce and reproduce
to their maximum capacity, given ergonomic or
exogenous resistance and or endogenous stress.
or something like it
But ISIS recruits harp on about Islam mostly.
Hey asshole, the us and its allies enable isis. Including Israel.
Yep, Jews and Christians the world over have flocked to ISIS.
And then there's the Amish hairstyles of their most fervent recruits. Lotta Amish in there.
30000 out of 1 billion, who are armed and funded by the us, israel and their allies in destroying syria proves that the religion of the billion, but not of the people funding, arming and training them - is to blame?
Is that right?
Fuckin' idiot.
Do not confuse them with maths.
They much too wise and have awareness the Islamic roots of algebra as subjugation means against infidelics.
Your 30k didn't join up for the cash though did they? Nor to act out US Israeli plots. They signed up for the jihad. They are widely admired in the Islamic world for that, not only condemned.
But why do they prohibit trimming beards? What purpose does that serve? Saving money that you'd spend on scissors?
Mohammad atta was supposed to be a muslim nut too, but he dranked, smoked, and fucked hookers.
The idea isis is entirely comprised of true believers is absurd - the hundreds who fled for their lives attests to that.
But even if they all were - it is a tiny, tiny number.
i guess if you are dumb enough to blame all muslims while simultaneously refusing to blame all christians or all jews... You may be too dumb to understand just how dumb you are.
Too much Fox and Breitbart Zionist brainwashing for you.
Christian zionist "christians" play their own role in creating terrorism -as do jews -they don't need to be among the Isis "muslims" who do the heavy lifting and dirty work. They all have their own roles. Jews and these fake chritians promote and fund them.
Terrorism is growing because that is a goal of American foreign policy. America is actively and directly involved in its growth. It is not just a side effect of other policies.
Why is Ron Paul pretending that he does not know this?
"We spread terrorism to some folks"
This isn't the Hope you waiting for?
I love Ron paul -but you are right. Occasionally he alludes to this, but overall he plays it safe -Buchanan is the same way. Both talk about blowback -but neither will admit that the blowback is an intended result and is deliberaltely caused by us -or at least our show government deep state masters. Neither will admit 911 was an inside job, but they certainly know it was.
I love Ron paul -
But after all is said and done; what the fuck did he do for America?????
Ron, of course you're right and we love you, but have a serious chat with your son and beat the shit out of him a bit. He doesn't seem to be on the same page, nor does he seem to understand the gravity of the situation we are in.
Rand Paul surely knows who butters his bread. About the same relationship Warren had with his father, Howard Buffett. Sad.
...a few less inches, though.
Seems to me that SA is not the first or last country to be forced to 'export' its organized criminals or religious extremists. If the Saudi royals don't support the efforts of Wahhabism at home, and its imperial ambitions abroad, then these zealot nutjobs will depose the Royals. Thus, SA's clerics are actually "in charge", you might say.
Likewise, in the US... its financial masters and their globalist agendas are driving US policies (foreign and domestic). These Gods of Finance are mostly adherents to a totalitarian religious view ("We are right, you are wrong, there is no other God!"), which means that their clerics are also calling the shots -- albeit indirectly.
Bottom line: The French were right, and I paraphrase: "There will be no peace, until the last monarch is hung by the entrails of the last cleric".
I believe that all three desert religions of Absolutism belong where they started: In the desert. Preferably 2 m deep, or deeper. In molecular state.
Clerics have always provided cover for the lyin', stealin', and killin' by their donors. (Any religion)
Where else do you think the really big bucks come from?
When the religions were invented, it was a different world. Not to update your knowledge ought to be a criminal offence.
"shining light on the roots of terror" by former CIA analyst Ray McGovern:
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2009/11/16/shining-light-roots-terrorism
Duh! Of course "terrorism deaths" goes exponential... when the military industrial complex of the USSA creates, funds, arms, trains, supports and sanctions terrorists!
The ISIS Islamic Terrorists are Supported by the US, Israel and Saudi Arabia
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-isis-islamic-terrorists-are-supported-b...
Bloggers: Edward Snowden leaked NSA documents show U.S., Israel created Islamic State
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/19/blog-posting...
U.S. General: West Created ISIS
http://americanfreepress.net/general-blows-whistle-on-islamic-state/
Iraq Arrests ISIS Advisors, US And Israelis Held
http://www.mintpressnews.com/iraq-arrests-isis-advisors-us-and-israelis-...
Israel Acts as ISIS’ Air Force … Repeatedly Bombs Syria
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/12/israel-acts-isis-air-force-repeat...
Yeah so clearly what needs to happen is more 'boots on the ground' and bombing more Arab and Muslim civilians to kill the Arab and Muslim terrorists we are arming and supporting.
Cute.
That means that it's been a resounding success! In the so-called "War On Terror" The Powers That Be are doing the exact opposite of everything in the United States Marine Corps' "Small Wars Manual", the ones who literally wrote the book on counterinsurgency.
War on drugs more drugs - war on terrorism more terrorism - war on freedom less freedom
Ron,
When will you investigate the U.S. "Interventionists" (you so indict) that are dual citizens of Israel, take political donations from Israel, or if their "non-profit" foundations receive funding from Israel?
We believe that you (and we) desire to stop the U.S. Interventionist lobby (Hillary Clinton, NeoCons, including Supreme State players in the U.S. Military).
We believe that everyone inside the U.S. Federal Government, the Military-Industrial-Security-Intelligence Complex, and anyone who receives money from them is corrupted, brainwashed and infected with this evil.
Follow the money and watch this corrupt empire fall before your eyes.
And then Israel will fall right behind it.
Are you saying the tail wags the dog?
Israeli Massacres:
Details and Numbers
Although the Image that Israel distributes about herself is that of an oppressed nation, it is with heavy hearts that we present these crimes that stand for themselves for the brutality of the Israeli Army and the heartlessness of its soldiers who seem to have a thirst for blood. It is for the hope that the world may see a clearer picture that we present these painful facts. It is interesting to notice that today's media does not dwell on these crimes as they do on the Holocaust. Some of the brutal acts may be lightly covered in the news for a week or two and then swept into the sea of oblivion. Those who attempt to revive the true history of Israel are charged with being anti-Semitic. So with the hope to keep those memories in mind we present this shameful history of Israel that seems to have found that the role of Goliath is more interesting than that of David.
The following list of massacres is by no means exclusive, but they reflect the nature of the Zionist occupation of Palestine and Lebanon and show that massacres and expulsions were not aberrations that happen in any war, but organized atrocities with only one aim, that is to have a Zionist state which is 'goyim rein'.
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http://www.seek-info.com/massacres.htm
http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il
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http://www.amazon.com/The-51-Day-War-Resistance/dp/156858511X
http://normanfinkelstein.com/book/this-time-we-went-too-far/^ both
EXCELLENT and meticulous accounts, and they and the website should be a reminder that many israelis and jews are standing up against the Jewish Supremacist violence hasbara trolls everywhere support.
https://wikispooks.com/w/images/e/e7/Hasbara_Handbook.pdf
Because an altered brained, incompetent , drug addicted homosexual is running the US govt (& the world).
His intention is to make corporations moar rich by giving them contracts where there is warfare because there is moar risk, more risk means moar money , sometimes 100 times moar.
CabalA$$LickerHomObamma has become a finacial cannibals, eating away its own economy like a tape worm inside your body .
Hate to disagree with Ron Paul here but ISIS was not caused by blowback. ISIS is a deliberate creation of Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar with the full knowledge and assistance of the US government military/foreign policy establishment for the purpose of destabilizing and destroying Syria, Libya, and any regime that gets 'in the way'.
Its creation appears to have backfired, however, as the refugee crisis in Europe and Paris terrorist attacks may cause 'US' to 'lose' Europe. So it is possible that the regime in Washington has changed its collective mind. However, Turkey and the Saudis still think it's all just fine.
'The great danger of faking your ability to do something in the public square is that someone with an actual desire to the job you are pretending to do might come along and show you up.
This is what has just happened to the US in Syria with the entrance of Russia into the fight against ISIL.
And as is generally the case with posers caught with their pants down, the US policy elites are not happy about it.
You see, the US strategic goal in Syria is not as your faithful mainstream media servants (led by that redoubtable channeler of Neo-Con smokescreens at the NYT Michael Gordon) might have you believe to save the Syrian people from the ravages of the long-standing Assad dictatorship, but rather to heighten the level of internecine conflict in that country to the point where it will not be able to serve as a bulwark against Israeli regional hegemony for at least another generation.
How do we know? Because important protagonists in the Israelo-American policy planning elite have advertised the fact with a surprising degree of clarity in documents and public statements issued over the last several decades.
The key here is learning to listen to what our cultural training has not prepared us to hear.' ...
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
Cf.:
http://theantimedia.org/isis-israel-iraq-and-syria-its-all-part-of-the-p...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-mid...
More of a diffference than you by orders of magnitude.
Chump.
Its a business to sell books Rand/Ron even if they believe in what they say have no real power to change anything, its like a single voice of reason in a crowd of headbangers listening to death metal high on acid marching to war. But its great to sell books to all the libertarians/conservatives and make money.
ummmmm....fighting terrorism would lead to reduction of terrorism, if you really were to fight terrorism, but that is not what the USA has been doing! Pretending something is not the same as doing it. So the premise that it is not possible to fight terrorism is silly. However, if you really want to fight terrorism, you must also start fighting its true sponsors and facilitators - like Russia has been doing. And unfortunately, this may bring you against countries like Turkey and Saudi Arabia...and perhaps even against the USA itself. But Russia seems ready for anything now.
Who could have predicted that the blowing crap out of countries would P'ss them OFF !, nobody could have predicted that, right.
10,000 BC SATANIC CAVE MEN SHOULD ALL BE KILLED OR YOUR KIDS WILL HAVE TO LISTEN TO MUSLIMS CALL TO PRAYER 5 TIMES A DAY. THE POLLACKS IN MICHIGAN THOUGHT IT COULD NEVER HAPPEN TOO!
They should re-brand it the expensive war of terror since Obama spends most of the budget arming ISIS lol
The only thing terrifying about "terrorists" is how much the U.S. govt has spent to produce them, ISIS, ISIL, all these Islaminazis are pets of the U.S. govt like ants in an ant - farm.
I suspect that Ron Paul, having been a member of CONgress for many years realized the hypocrisy of the US government. The war on drugs was actual a war to profit from drug trade. The war on terror is actually a war to profit from terror.
Every law that had the word modernization in it is designed to benefit a special interest group and to have more bribes paid to CONgress.
Oh, and I see that Obama is in violation of article 1 section 9 of the Constitution for the United States, having accepted over $1 million in gifts from The Saud. What other foreign power or principality is paying the O'Bumster?
Quick way to stop war, bring back the draft. If the one percenters had to send their children to war, they would think twice before starting them. But they have conveniently figured out to incentivize the poor through college subsidies and the like to do battle for them.