Terrorism? Really? Right up there with slipping in the bath tub or dying from a bee sting, and let's not touch who actually created Al CIAda and ISIS.
How about the loss of the Bill of Rights, or the TPP, or corporate and foreign money buying our elections? Ramirez is a piece of shit propagandist for our rulers and can go fuck himself with a porcupine dildo for doing the damage he does.
Terrorism is an overblown, sensationalized threat, as it has been since before 9/11/2001. It would be much less of an issue if you subtracted from the ranks of terrorists those the USA funds and trains. The refugee thing is an immigration issue more than a security issue.
The environment, on the other hand, is a matter of the survival of our species and all life on Earth.
The world needs billions fewer people in order to sustain its current ecosystem. Imagine you were the beneficiary of a trust, and rather than living off the income, every year you drew down 5% of the principal in addition to the income. Even if you could do that comfortably for a while, if you aren't making more money elsewhere, eventually your income will fall below your lifestyle needs. The environment is our trust and we're eating into the principal rapidly.
So Ignatius, are you saying climate change IS more of a threat than radical Islam? More than any other threat in the world? Or are you saying your a knee jerk ideologue who views anyone who sees radical Islam as a threat as just another evil neocon.
I'm one of those denying fools who thinks that climate change IS our greatest threat. Not because of climate change, but because our progressive politicians are going to use it as the ultimate undefinable, all encompassing,white guilt harness about our free necks.
And Obama IS a Muslim sympathizer. He was raised a Muslim and whether he is or isn't a currently believing practicing Muslim, he SYMPATHIZES with them, just as he does with every black person on the planet. Only white folks must be pure of heart and unbiased, and must prove it by punishing and ultimately destroying themselves.
I don't give a fuck about Ramirez, but I will give anyone who attacks Obama a pass.
OBAMA IS OUR #1 THREAT, and he will use Muslims, blacks, pacifists, greenies or anyone else as a weapon against the white western world.
I didn't say anything about 'climate change' and the 'radical Islam' threat is mostly contrived, and you think Obummer is in charge? Read some history and learn something before you comment.
"I don't give a fuck about Ramirez, but I will give anyone who attacks Obama a pass." That's because you have little idea of how propaganda works. If other ZH commenters were as stupid as this I wouldn't be posting here.
The cartoon is comparing climate change as a threat to radical Islam. DID YOU MISS IT?
WHO is too STUPID to read?
Those of you who are so worried about the poor Muslims being falsely accused, so worried about false flags and straw men being used as propaganda and manipulations, are so blind as to recognize the real and actual threats that people like Obama have deliberately created for this effect. Do you believe that we have done all of this so we can simply make up lies about radical Islam, the very term this administration REFUSES TO USE. You want it both ways. You want to condemn those who have created this threat while calling it false. They can fake economic data, they can fake films and on line movies, yet you firmly believe that they have killed millions to create a "false" threat? You can see beheadings carried out by crazy fuckers and immediately assume them faked...not by those claiming these deeds but by the CIA or other state actors....yet firmly believe the stats of millions dead by OUR hands as absolute proof.
WHO is the manipulated and deluded here?
You should question EVERYTHING, but instead you question NOTHING that supports your biases.
You will claim we have killed millions...murdered millions, while claiming that virtually all if not most Islamic murders are fake. You must sincerely think that Muslims are the religion of peace, are the highest plain of morality, to believe that while we have killed millions of them, they are not responding in kind, are not plotting their revenge, are NOT A THREAT.
The fact of the matter is that they're BOTH bullshit, contrived threats created by our own government for the purposes of controling us through their "solutions".
The major difference being that once we import a bunch of cazy mostly male jihadi's between the ages of 18 and 35 from countries torn by wars that "we" created, started, or provoked and set them lose on the soft, coddled, and increasingly disarmed populace of this country, we can't just turn them off by cutting off the funding like we could with the global warming scam.
Hey asshole - so is it wrong to blame a group for the actions of a minority or do you just apply that to jews??
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The dangers of falling into Anti-Semitism are very real. Historically, Anti-Semitism has been a major problem, and it continues to be in some parts of the world today. One of the primary ways in which Anti-Semites unfairly targeted Jews was to vilify Halakha, digging up intolerant views in the rabbinical tradition to smear Judaism with.
But herein lies an irony: many Zionist Jews are now joining Anti-Muslim Christians in vilifying the Islamic tradition in a very similar way. Once Halakha was the target of bigots; today, it is Sharia. Rabbi Eliyahu Stern has written an excellent article about this topic, entitled Don’t Fear Islamic Law in America.
I will be applying the same standards our opponents apply to the Islamic tradition to the Jewish one, to show that Judaism is equally vulnerable to such criticisms. It is hoped that this exercise will encourage people of Judeo-Christian background to be more hesitant in vilifying and targeting Islam. This is purely an exercise in thought, a what if scenario (what if we applied the same standards to your religion as you do onto others?) designed to be the antidote to religious and cultural arrogance.
By clarifying that this constitutes an “exercise in thought” one should know that I am not saying Judaism is XYZ because of ABC, but rather simply that if you insist on arguing that Islam is XYZ due to ABC then–based on your own logic–Judaism and Christianity are also XYZ because they too have ABC. This is a what if? and an if-then argument. http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/10/why-religious-zionism-not-judaism-is-th...
Caim down, Oldwood. I'll get your binky. There. Better now?
The average Muslim is not fundamentally different from the average Jew, or Episcopalian.
All we've ever wanted was to be left alone- to live our lives unencumbered by the sociopaths who appear daily in our otherwise mundane existence preaching war, division and mistrust.
Yeah, the Quran is pretty fkn radical. Have you read the Old Testament? The Talmud? Same fkn thing.
So, the fundamentalists universally believe that the only way to serve their God is to eliminate... wait for it... other fundamentalists.
Meanwhile, the regulars of all denominations just want to live and raise their children in a just world.
Sure, we got radical Episcopalians murdering all around the fucking planet.
You can live with your head in an ideological hole if you want. The fact that our own government is doing all it can to put us at even greater risk does not minimize the threats we face. We have kicked the hornets nest and will live with the result, but sitting in the middle of the swarm is NOT the answer.
You can READ all you want, be it the Bible, the Quran, the NY times or Obama's press releases. The ONLY thing that matters is actions, and you can be as condescending as you please and it will change NOTHING, except make you appear even smaller and less consequential. The ONLY PEACEFUL thing that has a chance of changing things is debate, not name calling. But if all you care about is stroking your dick for a little short term relief...by all means, go for it. The whole world is masturbating while ignoring what is in their face.
Living in your little fake world where all the horrors are but a fiction being created for effect may let you sleep at night, but I believe these threats are real, even while I agree with you that most have been artificially inspired. You all line up sighting case after case of how evil and corrupt our leaders are, how Muslims are falsely blamed and murdered by the millions, yet see NO risk, NO blow back as a consequence? And if there is blow back, its just a little steam release that will go no further, that is somehow contained by the religion of peace? Really?
Exactly WHAT percentage of humans is required to seek power and domination through any means possible before it fucks with the lives of EVERYONE ON THE PLANET? As far as I know, there are few if any remaining civilizations in the world that are not guilty of some horrible shit in their past. Exactly WHO are you waiting to rise above the rest and IMPOSE PEACE?
God you are stupid. Really. christians have killed far, far more people than muslims.
And when jews can get away with it - they have HAPPILY engaged in terrorism and supported and whitewashed Israeli state terror.
See, you just want an easy answer. The same desire for easy answers that produces group hate in general.
But these past 20 years ehen islamic terrorism arose, much supported by the us and its 'allies' well over a million muslims have been killed directly or indirectly or 'collaterally' by the us and israel.
But you dont account for that inspiring a tiny minority to engage in terror.
Youll citr to violence in the koran but rngage in clumsy apologetics for the violence and racism and dual ethics of the Old Testament.
Youll also ignore the terrorism used - heavily a by european ashkenazim bent on expelling hundreds of thousands of people to create an ethnic state.
In short, you are a shamelessly dishonest and hypocritical twat. And you are very much part of the fucking problem of state violence and terror.
The most efficient means of disposing of your enemy is to induce them to do it for you. Self hatred is more dominant in western societies than anywhere else in the world. We are doing a bangup job of it so far.
As far as Christians killing more people than Muslims, I'm not sure of your source, but if we except it on face value I suppose I will have to live with it. We have killed far more poisonous snakes, pestilences, lions, tigers and bears than any of them have killed us. When it becomes necessary to attain parity in death tolls, please let me know. For me and mine, I seek survival, and fairness and objectivity comes in second. Muslims say death to America, I take them at their word and even IF they are exaggerating, they best be very very wary. I look for my neighbors to share in my values, to desire to be part of my culture if they are moving next to me. If they do not...then I assume their interests are not aligned with mine and constitute a potential threat.I'm simple that way. When they refuse to associate with me, when they see my religion or beliefs a threat to them...after they have either asked to become my neighbor, or simply sneak in through the dark of night, I will assume them a threat as well.
We can all just assume...because that is what we are taught, that we must extend the benefit of the doubt to all people. And when they display a disgust for our culture and values, we are to take that as a signal that WE have somehow offended them and that WE should provide even greater allowances to them as our penance.
We are being taught to commit suicide for the benefit of some higher ideal, some more Utopian vision of society, when, in reality, we KNOW this is simply subjugation, oppression and eventual elimination as a people and culture. Those in power do not care what race or people they rule, only that they rule, and there is no better class of people to rule than those so ideologically driven as to strap on a suicide vest for their god. If Obama thought it would garner him more power to publicly proclaim his Muslim faith, it would be on the news before lunch. Those thirsting for power have only one ideology, that which provides them the greatest uncontested power....absolute power, the voice of god.
Perhaps you know your Quran, but you certainly are ignorant - or at least pretend to be - when it comes to the Old Testament. The groups the Hebrews were told to eliminate, on orders from God according to the Old Testament, were limited to very specific groups and did not extend to everyone, everywhere, who was not a member of one of the twelve tribes. That is not at all the same as what is found in Islamic scriptures.
To further demonstrate your ignorance - or duplicity - you claim that all fundamentalists seek to "serve their God" by eliminating other fundamentalists. You are not even close, if you are including Christianity. There is absolutely nothing in Christian scripture - the New Testament - that suggests going out and killing all non-Christians. This is not to say that some who may claim to be Christians have not done some horrible things to others, including other Christians, but there is no way to prove that those persons are acting in accordance with Christ's teachings.
Stick to what the texts upon which various religions are based and you will discover - if indeed you don't already really know - that there are significant differences among them regarding aggressive violence against others. But then, I have been led to understand that Muslims are allowed to lie to further their religion.
You just hate muslims so will say their fucked up text is evil but the racism and xenophobia and double ethical standards in torah and talmud are - well there you will argue mistranslation or 'context' - but you just will pluck the text from the kiran
1.3 billion muslims, 17 million jews, and going back to the bolshevik coup, there is no question that jews gave murdered more people than muslins.
And christians most of all.
The problem isnt so much your attacking violence in the koran as a motive for terror, its ignoring the fact that Zionist terrorists and jewish settlers who burn families to death are doing it, today, in israel, and you do not give a fuck.
Johnny Horscaulk. Time to take your meds and go to bed. When you wake the Zionists will still be here don't worry, succesful, thriving, vigourous as always and still in your face.
Hate to break it to you, danepol- Regardless of the up/down vote here in the rabble of the bowels of ZeroHedge- We can see the sweat popping up on your forehead.
You have lost control. It's over.
Goodbye!
Edit;
While I'm at it, let me introduce you to some friends of mine; Blackberry Smoke-
Oh, and johnny still wants to fight. God love him! His heart's in the right place. I, on the other hand, am content to let your dumb ass run off the cliff that you and yours created.
Obama was surrounded and supported by a Chicago Jewish network who helped him achieve power.
His first chief of staff was a mossad agent.
He is advised by soros, axelrod, sunstein, and others.
He has appointedor nominated a WILDLY disproportionate number of jews, not muslims, to high positions in treasury, the fed, irs, fdic, omb, cftc, commerce, sec, office of trade rep, nat econ council, council of economic advisors.
Notice they never come to your door to sell that shit to you, they are too chicken shit, they pass laws and taxes from on high, subvert your children while you are not around.
You laugh, but while at university I did in fact know a few climate cultists who really did want to include breathing in the carbon tax. Don't exercise too hard.
Neither climate change nor Islamic jihadists terrorize me nearly as much as Obama's unceasing attacks on the Constitution and my rights to life, liberty and property.
So both threats are state-sponsored creations that only exist in the minds of those that benefit or are a direct result of the "war on" said threat. I'll take a fascist over these limp-wristed douchebags perpetuating and peddling nonsense issues any day. I mean, fuck it, nothing else seems to be working - and we're sure as shit not going to get anything done with the American voter or our "free market" economy.
"Failing to grasp the nettle will send a direct message of contempt to poorer nations and people, who cannot afford the costs of mitigating the impacts of increasing temperatures. It will trigger unprecedented economic and refugee crises, and dramatically deepen global insecurity."
Got that?
The elites & governments fabrication of "manmade global warming" is a direct security threat to YOU because now all the poor people are going KILL YOU. You just can't win you see, either except gestapo tactics for the "protection of you" OR come to the table like reasonable people and allow your pockets to be picked.
"And that is why we say: Global warming is the human-rights challenge of our time. If we do not address it, collectively, it can only mean we have decided that the rights of some members of the human family are more important than others." - Desmond TuTu & Mpho Tutu
I shit you not, if you don't do this, you're all razzzists...lmao!
Redistribution from the global middle class to the poorer countries with (of course) a government "restocking fee".
And if some idiot prog comes on here claiming "only corporations & elites" will pay it they have just shown their COMPLETE IGNORANCE (again) OF HOW TAX SCHEMES WORK.
Really folks, how do you heat and light your home? What do you put in your car to make it run? When you eat something, how was it cooked and, or, who made it with what kind of energy? You drink water from a tap, take a shower or bath ? How'd it get to your kitchen or bathroom tap? You flush a toilet, where does it go, how do they treat it????
It's ALL energy folks! $15 an hour minimum wage????? That's literally NOTHING!!! Wait until you see the extended cost of a carbon tax!!!! Everything you touch outside of your genitals will have an added surcharge of the carbon tax.
BUT, they may even tax you for breathing real heavy!!!
You think you're broke now. Wait. Ya ain't seen nuthin yet!!!
This is the biggest scheme to develop an extraordinary large pool of money. For WHO, exactly??? Another fringe of takers, taking from those that can afford it the least.
Bend over!! You love this!! You're saving the planet!
Fuck Huff Po! If it's too hot, let them dig shelters underground. The temps stay pretty cool down there. What, we're humanitarians because the planet is warming naturally? Screw that. Let THEM "LEARN" how to deal with it.
History shows we used to live in caves.
I WONDER WHY???? MAYBE BECAUSE IT WAS TOO FLIPPING HOT OUT????
Aside from that, we've been freezing our asses off over here (as typical for winter). Plus every time they throw one of these al gore chakra fests it too gets frozen out -no pun intended.
Obama says climate change is a financial threat...that it will create economic hardship. He must of forgot about his ability to print, to monetize, to lend, to QE forever. Like money is an issue...they have plenty for their agendas, only coming up short for their opponents agendas.
Just a fucking game for them, and we are the grist for their mill.
If they had any balls....and were as dumb as the rest of us, they would just come out and tell us that we must be caged for our own protection, that we must surrender all of our liberties, our freedoms, our ability to choose for ourselves, for our own good.
Instead they burn half of the planet to the ground to scare us into capitulation.
Put a stop to these government nazi sons of a bitches. This fag shit is true but not so funny. Fuck the IRS and every other government agency they fund through stealing my labor.
What the fuck is in that, whatever the hell that is? I mean, I see the racist caricature on the left, but man, everything else in the drawing sucks. Someone needs to go back to art school.
We are so fucked. You just can't make this shit up. Climate change? Really? What is next? How about universal ID cards, followed by having to file a "flight plan" on your computer before driving anywhere. Then the computer matches you up with 56 other people going your way. Mandatory car pooling. Car must be full before it can move more than 6 miles. OOPs, dont want to give them any ideas.
I'm sure that in the climate change war room that was discussed already. Like 4 people in a Smart car to appease China. Or 2 people in and Audi A8 or Mercedes 350 MX to appease Europe. It's a distonian masterpiece of a clusterfuck. But we'll be the ones getting it in the ass. We need more hi speed trains! Yeah, that'll fix it.
Say goodbye to touring the country by yourself by car!!!
Climates do change, we call them seasons and they vary, but fear-mongering by the world's largest carbon foot-printers can't be taken seriously except by a person with a mental disorder; that's right Liberals.
Don't give me the scientific BS; a weatherman can't get the weather right more than 24 hours in advance and you will say a glorified meteorologist (AKA: Climatologist) can take a much more complex system and "know" (science means knowledge) with any degree of certainty anything except reading carefully placed thermometers and applying complicated software models and call that science? A moron knows more.
Climate is the average weather over some decades interval. Those are damn long seasons you're living in. What's that place called? Pluto?
Oh, and weather well, oh shit here comes the wiki: "Weather generally refers to day-to-day temperature and precipitation activity, whereas climate is the term for the statistics of atmospheric conditions over longer periods of time."
As for the difference between a meteorolgist and a climatologist, well, fucking wiki pal. It's a mouse click away.
That cartoon is a joke, the idiot who drew it should be fired. Neither of those threats exist once you remove the real threat that by all appearances has begun to starve everybody. I wonder if all of the idiots will still be non-stop bitching about the scourge of terrorism when they have nothing to eat and the currency is ass-wipe... probably.
The vast majority of people do not understand that everything that is happening in the world today is planned for the creation of a globalist technocratically run slave world.
We know the what. We are seeing the how unfold before us. The ultimate question is "why?".
Sure they have tried it before with the Venetian banking empire (most likely there were other banking empires before that) and then the British banking empire ... now the US and ultimately Israeli if we are to believe prophesy.
I agree that the turrurism thing is nauseating granted.
Still kinda funny though but then again it's not funny now is it? They are just not letting this one go are they? You'd of thought with the whole hockey stick fiasco and some others that they'd just move on but this one is too freaking juicy if you've ever debated someone over climate change they are worse than debating some religious fanatics it is the new religion.
Defend the earth kill all the people.
REMEMBER THE AVATAR!!!!!
Sigh it's just comming from every angle as if someone spilled a giant oceans sized glass of stupid.
Funny how people with religious thinking on the best method we have of knowing the laws of nature blame those who follow it of religious thinking. Almost 1984-ish.
Damn dem progressive globalists. Don't they know that if weather patterns change severely and crops fail people can always eat rocks?! And if migration pressure from those govt subsidized bums who don't want to eat rocks gets bad, well, instead of rocks we could eat people?! There's even a movie about that, pretty funny that one is. And if places become inhospitable, like Saudi Arabia, well, that was always sand and them sheiks always been living la vida loca out of that oil right? haha, dem libs... And if the Himalayan glaciers evaporate and the Ganges dries, well, we can always use some more of those indian engineers and those Bangladeshi garment makers closer to home, right? hahaha, those alarmists. It's all fine, keep calm and consuming duuuudeees. No worries.
The puppets Punch & Judy would be far more credible opponents of ISIS than Barry & Michael. At least Punch & Judy live in the REAL world. I don't know what world Barry & Michael live in, but it isn't a real world.
Now Ramirez is just teasing Reggie, isn't he?
I’ve always wondered about his EARS.
Do they improve his supersonic manureability? ;-)
Loo...
I hate hate this neocon megaphony, Ramirez.
Terrorism? Really? Right up there with slipping in the bath tub or dying from a bee sting, and let's not touch who actually created Al CIAda and ISIS.
How about the loss of the Bill of Rights, or the TPP, or corporate and foreign money buying our elections? Ramirez is a piece of shit propagandist for our rulers and can go fuck himself with a porcupine dildo for doing the damage he does.
I’ve just vomited all over the keyboard. ;-)
… ney
If that terrorist on the beach purchased a "green sword" made with sound ecological principles then he is okay.
Who is the person by the beach umbrella and who is she waving at?
Victoria Nuland, and she has cookies.
...she has cooties. (fixed it for you)
Those too.
Terrorism is an overblown, sensationalized threat, as it has been since before 9/11/2001. It would be much less of an issue if you subtracted from the ranks of terrorists those the USA funds and trains. The refugee thing is an immigration issue more than a security issue.
The environment, on the other hand, is a matter of the survival of our species and all life on Earth.
The world needs billions fewer people in order to sustain its current ecosystem. Imagine you were the beneficiary of a trust, and rather than living off the income, every year you drew down 5% of the principal in addition to the income. Even if you could do that comfortably for a while, if you aren't making more money elsewhere, eventually your income will fall below your lifestyle needs. The environment is our trust and we're eating into the principal rapidly.
So Ignatius, are you saying climate change IS more of a threat than radical Islam? More than any other threat in the world? Or are you saying your a knee jerk ideologue who views anyone who sees radical Islam as a threat as just another evil neocon.
I'm one of those denying fools who thinks that climate change IS our greatest threat. Not because of climate change, but because our progressive politicians are going to use it as the ultimate undefinable, all encompassing,white guilt harness about our free necks.
And Obama IS a Muslim sympathizer. He was raised a Muslim and whether he is or isn't a currently believing practicing Muslim, he SYMPATHIZES with them, just as he does with every black person on the planet. Only white folks must be pure of heart and unbiased, and must prove it by punishing and ultimately destroying themselves.
I don't give a fuck about Ramirez, but I will give anyone who attacks Obama a pass.
OBAMA IS OUR #1 THREAT, and he will use Muslims, blacks, pacifists, greenies or anyone else as a weapon against the white western world.
believe it
I didn't say anything about 'climate change' and the 'radical Islam' threat is mostly contrived, and you think Obummer is in charge? Read some history and learn something before you comment.
"I don't give a fuck about Ramirez, but I will give anyone who attacks Obama a pass." That's because you have little idea of how propaganda works. If other ZH commenters were as stupid as this I wouldn't be posting here.
The cartoon is comparing climate change as a threat to radical Islam. DID YOU MISS IT?
WHO is too STUPID to read?
Those of you who are so worried about the poor Muslims being falsely accused, so worried about false flags and straw men being used as propaganda and manipulations, are so blind as to recognize the real and actual threats that people like Obama have deliberately created for this effect. Do you believe that we have done all of this so we can simply make up lies about radical Islam, the very term this administration REFUSES TO USE. You want it both ways. You want to condemn those who have created this threat while calling it false. They can fake economic data, they can fake films and on line movies, yet you firmly believe that they have killed millions to create a "false" threat? You can see beheadings carried out by crazy fuckers and immediately assume them faked...not by those claiming these deeds but by the CIA or other state actors....yet firmly believe the stats of millions dead by OUR hands as absolute proof.
WHO is the manipulated and deluded here?
You should question EVERYTHING, but instead you question NOTHING that supports your biases.
You will claim we have killed millions...murdered millions, while claiming that virtually all if not most Islamic murders are fake. You must sincerely think that Muslims are the religion of peace, are the highest plain of morality, to believe that while we have killed millions of them, they are not responding in kind, are not plotting their revenge, are NOT A THREAT.
Wake the fuck up dumbass.
"You just don't get it, do ya Scott?"
The fact of the matter is that they're BOTH bullshit, contrived threats created by our own government for the purposes of controling us through their "solutions".
The major difference being that once we import a bunch of cazy mostly male jihadi's between the ages of 18 and 35 from countries torn by wars that "we" created, started, or provoked and set them lose on the soft, coddled, and increasingly disarmed populace of this country, we can't just turn them off by cutting off the funding like we could with the global warming scam.
Hey asshole - so is it wrong to blame a group for the actions of a minority or do you just apply that to jews??
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The dangers of falling into Anti-Semitism are very real. Historically, Anti-Semitism has been a major problem, and it continues to be in some parts of the world today. One of the primary ways in which Anti-Semites unfairly targeted Jews was to vilify Halakha, digging up intolerant views in the rabbinical tradition to smear Judaism with.
But herein lies an irony: many Zionist Jews are now joining Anti-Muslim Christians in vilifying the Islamic tradition in a very similar way. Once Halakha was the target of bigots; today, it is Sharia. Rabbi Eliyahu Stern has written an excellent article about this topic, entitled Don’t Fear Islamic Law in America.
I will be applying the same standards our opponents apply to the Islamic tradition to the Jewish one, to show that Judaism is equally vulnerable to such criticisms. It is hoped that this exercise will encourage people of Judeo-Christian background to be more hesitant in vilifying and targeting Islam. This is purely an exercise in thought, a what if scenario (what if we applied the same standards to your religion as you do onto others?) designed to be the antidote to religious and cultural arrogance.
By clarifying that this constitutes an “exercise in thought” one should know that I am not saying Judaism is XYZ because of ABC, but rather simply that if you insist on arguing that Islam is XYZ due to ABC then–based on your own logic–Judaism and Christianity are also XYZ because they too have ABC. This is a what if? and an if-then argument.
http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/10/why-religious-zionism-not-judaism-is-th...
Johnny Horscaulk self-hating Jew. Not what you say, but that you say it and where you say it. Clever you're not despite what mommy told you.
Danepol what in the fuck does that even mean? Not what i say but where? Huh?
And I doubt the writer hates himself - he's just intelligent and not a hypocritical Ziofascist.
Which makes him a much, much better "Jew" than you.
Caim down, Oldwood. I'll get your binky. There. Better now?
The average Muslim is not fundamentally different from the average Jew, or Episcopalian.
All we've ever wanted was to be left alone- to live our lives unencumbered by the sociopaths who appear daily in our otherwise mundane existence preaching war, division and mistrust.
Yeah, the Quran is pretty fkn radical. Have you read the Old Testament? The Talmud? Same fkn thing.
So, the fundamentalists universally believe that the only way to serve their God is to eliminate... wait for it... other fundamentalists.
Meanwhile, the regulars of all denominations just want to live and raise their children in a just world.
But what do I know? I'm just a goat.
Sure, we got radical Episcopalians murdering all around the fucking planet.
You can live with your head in an ideological hole if you want. The fact that our own government is doing all it can to put us at even greater risk does not minimize the threats we face. We have kicked the hornets nest and will live with the result, but sitting in the middle of the swarm is NOT the answer.
You can READ all you want, be it the Bible, the Quran, the NY times or Obama's press releases. The ONLY thing that matters is actions, and you can be as condescending as you please and it will change NOTHING, except make you appear even smaller and less consequential. The ONLY PEACEFUL thing that has a chance of changing things is debate, not name calling. But if all you care about is stroking your dick for a little short term relief...by all means, go for it. The whole world is masturbating while ignoring what is in their face.
Living in your little fake world where all the horrors are but a fiction being created for effect may let you sleep at night, but I believe these threats are real, even while I agree with you that most have been artificially inspired. You all line up sighting case after case of how evil and corrupt our leaders are, how Muslims are falsely blamed and murdered by the millions, yet see NO risk, NO blow back as a consequence? And if there is blow back, its just a little steam release that will go no further, that is somehow contained by the religion of peace? Really?
Exactly WHAT percentage of humans is required to seek power and domination through any means possible before it fucks with the lives of EVERYONE ON THE PLANET? As far as I know, there are few if any remaining civilizations in the world that are not guilty of some horrible shit in their past. Exactly WHO are you waiting to rise above the rest and IMPOSE PEACE?
God you are stupid. Really. christians have killed far, far more people than muslims.
And when jews can get away with it - they have HAPPILY engaged in terrorism and supported and whitewashed Israeli state terror.
See, you just want an easy answer. The same desire for easy answers that produces group hate in general.
But these past 20 years ehen islamic terrorism arose, much supported by the us and its 'allies' well over a million muslims have been killed directly or indirectly or 'collaterally' by the us and israel.
But you dont account for that inspiring a tiny minority to engage in terror.
Youll citr to violence in the koran but rngage in clumsy apologetics for the violence and racism and dual ethics of the Old Testament.
Youll also ignore the terrorism used - heavily a by european ashkenazim bent on expelling hundreds of thousands of people to create an ethnic state.
In short, you are a shamelessly dishonest and hypocritical twat. And you are very much part of the fucking problem of state violence and terror.
Fuck you.
The most efficient means of disposing of your enemy is to induce them to do it for you. Self hatred is more dominant in western societies than anywhere else in the world. We are doing a bangup job of it so far.
As far as Christians killing more people than Muslims, I'm not sure of your source, but if we except it on face value I suppose I will have to live with it. We have killed far more poisonous snakes, pestilences, lions, tigers and bears than any of them have killed us. When it becomes necessary to attain parity in death tolls, please let me know. For me and mine, I seek survival, and fairness and objectivity comes in second. Muslims say death to America, I take them at their word and even IF they are exaggerating, they best be very very wary. I look for my neighbors to share in my values, to desire to be part of my culture if they are moving next to me. If they do not...then I assume their interests are not aligned with mine and constitute a potential threat.I'm simple that way. When they refuse to associate with me, when they see my religion or beliefs a threat to them...after they have either asked to become my neighbor, or simply sneak in through the dark of night, I will assume them a threat as well.
We can all just assume...because that is what we are taught, that we must extend the benefit of the doubt to all people. And when they display a disgust for our culture and values, we are to take that as a signal that WE have somehow offended them and that WE should provide even greater allowances to them as our penance.
We are being taught to commit suicide for the benefit of some higher ideal, some more Utopian vision of society, when, in reality, we KNOW this is simply subjugation, oppression and eventual elimination as a people and culture. Those in power do not care what race or people they rule, only that they rule, and there is no better class of people to rule than those so ideologically driven as to strap on a suicide vest for their god. If Obama thought it would garner him more power to publicly proclaim his Muslim faith, it would be on the news before lunch. Those thirsting for power have only one ideology, that which provides them the greatest uncontested power....absolute power, the voice of god.
Us. I'm waiting for us.
It's funny how you accuse me (you all) of being an ideaiogue when you're simply projecting your own fears.
All the world's a stage, Oldwood. Enjoy the show.
Perhaps you know your Quran, but you certainly are ignorant - or at least pretend to be - when it comes to the Old Testament. The groups the Hebrews were told to eliminate, on orders from God according to the Old Testament, were limited to very specific groups and did not extend to everyone, everywhere, who was not a member of one of the twelve tribes. That is not at all the same as what is found in Islamic scriptures.
To further demonstrate your ignorance - or duplicity - you claim that all fundamentalists seek to "serve their God" by eliminating other fundamentalists. You are not even close, if you are including Christianity. There is absolutely nothing in Christian scripture - the New Testament - that suggests going out and killing all non-Christians. This is not to say that some who may claim to be Christians have not done some horrible things to others, including other Christians, but there is no way to prove that those persons are acting in accordance with Christ's teachings.
Stick to what the texts upon which various religions are based and you will discover - if indeed you don't already really know - that there are significant differences among them regarding aggressive violence against others. But then, I have been led to understand that Muslims are allowed to lie to further their religion.
http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/shahak.htmlOh the jew god just said to murder specific innocent women and children so its a wonderful religion - is that right?
Your lazy apologetics about Jewish texts would not survive 10 minutes of honest research.
http://youtu.be/YSy6ENVAJlY
You just hate muslims so will say their fucked up text is evil but the racism and xenophobia and double ethical standards in torah and talmud are - well there you will argue mistranslation or 'context' - but you just will pluck the text from the kiran
Fucking hypocrite.
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/bible_quran.html
1.3 billion muslims, 17 million jews, and going back to the bolshevik coup, there is no question that jews gave murdered more people than muslins.
And christians most of all.
The problem isnt so much your attacking violence in the koran as a motive for terror, its ignoring the fact that Zionist terrorists and jewish settlers who burn families to death are doing it, today, in israel, and you do not give a fuck.
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-it...
You are despicable.
Johnny Horscaulk. Time to take your meds and go to bed. When you wake the Zionists will still be here don't worry, succesful, thriving, vigourous as always and still in your face.
Hate to break it to you, danepol- Regardless of the up/down vote here in the rabble of the bowels of ZeroHedge- We can see the sweat popping up on your forehead.
You have lost control. It's over.
Goodbye!
Edit;
While I'm at it, let me introduce you to some friends of mine; Blackberry Smoke-
If I were you
I'd sleep with one eye open
I'd keep prayin' keep hopin'
Yeah you ought'a be watchin' your back
If I were you
I'd be lookin' over my shoulder
'Cause every day gets closer
To what's comin' for you
Payback's a bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_EpLLGJsLs
Oh, and johnny still wants to fight. God love him! His heart's in the right place. I, on the other hand, am content to let your dumb ass run off the cliff that you and yours created.
Bon Voyage'!
Obama was surrounded and supported by a Chicago Jewish network who helped him achieve power.
His first chief of staff was a mossad agent.
He is advised by soros, axelrod, sunstein, and others.
He has appointedor nominated a WILDLY disproportionate number of jews, not muslims, to high positions in treasury, the fed, irs, fdic, omb, cftc, commerce, sec, office of trade rep, nat econ council, council of economic advisors.
And he's a secret muslim?
http://www.bollyn.com/who-is-barack-obama/#article_11741
Are you that much of an Islamophobic twat?
You are a zionist fucking idiot.
It's just a cartoon!
Agreed.
https://mastersofdeception.wordpress.com
Wow - i ever saw a Muslim circumcision ceremony in pictures before now.
Where is the eye bleach when you need it ?
See that guy in the back in the red? CIA.
Ramirez nailed it this time and didn't even realize it.
This fucking Ramirez guy again?
Come on!
He's the Right's answer to Horsey and equally nauseating.
The Coppertone Homo.
Notice they never come to your door to sell that shit to you, they are too chicken shit, they pass laws and taxes from on high, subvert your children while you are not around.
can't believe we elected this delusional charicature of a man.....and twice to boot
I was told by a friend who works for Whit house tha about 60% of State Dept are gay - they even have a FB page
You mean ... you mean ... there is a posibility that Hitlery is not hetro?
Whats next? Oh crap they will label everyone a climate terrorist for breathing.
You laugh, but while at university I did in fact know a few climate cultists who really did want to include breathing in the carbon tax. Don't exercise too hard.
You can't make this stuff up!
Neither climate change nor Islamic jihadists terrorize me nearly as much as Obama's unceasing attacks on the Constitution and my rights to life, liberty and property.
"Oh if only the nations of the world could impose a carbon tax, why then, we would have world peace and Eeeqwauliteee!"
http://notrickszone.com/2015/11/20/german-professor-examines-nasa-giss-t...
Half white privilege , he hates you more than he hates himself
So both threats are state-sponsored creations that only exist in the minds of those that benefit or are a direct result of the "war on" said threat. I'll take a fascist over these limp-wristed douchebags perpetuating and peddling nonsense issues any day. I mean, fuck it, nothing else seems to be working - and we're sure as shit not going to get anything done with the American voter or our "free market" economy.
Hammy, the nitrites, fillers, coloring and various other chemicals are killing you.
Yum!
"Failing to grasp the nettle will send a direct message of contempt to poorer nations and people, who cannot afford the costs of mitigating the impacts of increasing temperatures. It will trigger unprecedented economic and refugee crises, and dramatically deepen global insecurity."
Got that?
The elites & governments fabrication of "manmade global warming" is a direct security threat to YOU because now all the poor people are going KILL YOU. You just can't win you see, either except gestapo tactics for the "protection of you" OR come to the table like reasonable people and allow your pockets to be picked.
"And that is why we say: Global warming is the human-rights challenge of our time. If we do not address it, collectively, it can only mean we have decided that the rights of some members of the human family are more important than others." - Desmond TuTu & Mpho Tutu
I shit you not, if you don't do this, you're all razzzists...lmao!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/desmond-tutu/cop21-humanitys-last-chance-s...
Thanks for that. The opening sentence reads:
I don't think you can get much more transparent than that -- but I guess one still has to have their eyes open to be able to read-between-the-lines.
It's always been about redistribution.
Redistribution from the global middle class to the poorer countries with (of course) a government "restocking fee".
And if some idiot prog comes on here claiming "only corporations & elites" will pay it they have just shown their COMPLETE IGNORANCE (again) OF HOW TAX SCHEMES WORK.
For the one millionth time.
nmewn
I like your comment!!
Really folks, how do you heat and light your home? What do you put in your car to make it run? When you eat something, how was it cooked and, or, who made it with what kind of energy? You drink water from a tap, take a shower or bath ? How'd it get to your kitchen or bathroom tap? You flush a toilet, where does it go, how do they treat it????
It's ALL energy folks! $15 an hour minimum wage????? That's literally NOTHING!!! Wait until you see the extended cost of a carbon tax!!!! Everything you touch outside of your genitals will have an added surcharge of the carbon tax.
BUT, they may even tax you for breathing real heavy!!!
You think you're broke now. Wait. Ya ain't seen nuthin yet!!!
This is the biggest scheme to develop an extraordinary large pool of money. For WHO, exactly??? Another fringe of takers, taking from those that can afford it the least.
Bend over!! You love this!! You're saving the planet!
The Old Man
Saving the planet by getting rid of US
Every time these fuckers "fix" things we all drop two more rungs on the ladder.
It is all about World Totalitarian Government. Nothing more and nothing less.
and it all started with the original totalitarianism - religion. The original enforcer of fraud and BS
Fuck Huff Po! If it's too hot, let them dig shelters underground. The temps stay pretty cool down there. What, we're humanitarians because the planet is warming naturally? Screw that. Let THEM "LEARN" how to deal with it.
History shows we used to live in caves.
I WONDER WHY???? MAYBE BECAUSE IT WAS TOO FLIPPING HOT OUT????
The Old Man
Man, Am I dragging my knuckles or what??? LOL!!!!
Aside from that, we've been freezing our asses off over here (as typical for winter). Plus every time they throw one of these al gore chakra fests it too gets frozen out -no pun intended.
2010
http://www.businessinsider.com/two-more-women-accuse-al-gore-of-assault-...
Obama says climate change is a financial threat...that it will create economic hardship. He must of forgot about his ability to print, to monetize, to lend, to QE forever. Like money is an issue...they have plenty for their agendas, only coming up short for their opponents agendas.
Just a fucking game for them, and we are the grist for their mill.
If they had any balls....and were as dumb as the rest of us, they would just come out and tell us that we must be caged for our own protection, that we must surrender all of our liberties, our freedoms, our ability to choose for ourselves, for our own good.
Instead they burn half of the planet to the ground to scare us into capitulation.
Yeah, specially the ice age.
Will Obama resign this week?
Earboobs a bit wonky.
Put a stop to these government nazi sons of a bitches. This fag shit is true but not so funny. Fuck the IRS and every other government agency they fund through stealing my labor.
The swordsman works for Barack.
isn't more like a gay sex threesome under a rainbow flag?
Is that Cankles waving in the background...
Ever indifferent to details, President Twinkletoes showed up for less than half of his security briefings, and the results proved tragic.
the fuckin' commie monkey belongs on a banana plantation in HI.
What the fuck is in that, whatever the hell that is? I mean, I see the racist caricature on the left, but man, everything else in the drawing sucks. Someone needs to go back to art school.
No relation.
Now, settle down guys. Take your blue pills - here, I've got some nice Kool-Aid for you to wash them down with.
We are so fucked. You just can't make this shit up. Climate change? Really? What is next? How about universal ID cards, followed by having to file a "flight plan" on your computer before driving anywhere. Then the computer matches you up with 56 other people going your way. Mandatory car pooling. Car must be full before it can move more than 6 miles. OOPs, dont want to give them any ideas.
I'm sure that in the climate change war room that was discussed already. Like 4 people in a Smart car to appease China. Or 2 people in and Audi A8 or Mercedes 350 MX to appease Europe. It's a distonian masterpiece of a clusterfuck. But we'll be the ones getting it in the ass. We need more hi speed trains! Yeah, that'll fix it.
Say goodbye to touring the country by yourself by car!!!
The Old Man
Climates do change, we call them seasons and they vary, but fear-mongering by the world's largest carbon foot-printers can't be taken seriously except by a person with a mental disorder; that's right Liberals.
Don't give me the scientific BS; a weatherman can't get the weather right more than 24 hours in advance and you will say a glorified meteorologist (AKA: Climatologist) can take a much more complex system and "know" (science means knowledge) with any degree of certainty anything except reading carefully placed thermometers and applying complicated software models and call that science? A moron knows more.
Why, thank you.
Climate is the average weather over some decades interval. Those are damn long seasons you're living in. What's that place called? Pluto?
Oh, and weather well, oh shit here comes the wiki: "Weather generally refers to day-to-day temperature and precipitation activity, whereas climate is the term for the statistics of atmospheric conditions over longer periods of time."
As for the difference between a meteorolgist and a climatologist, well, fucking wiki pal. It's a mouse click away.
Coppertone ad ruined forever. I bet that ad agency is going to flip out.
It's only a threat to him if he is actually not actively planting the seeds of terrorism as a sworn upholder of the constitution.
That cartoon is a joke, the idiot who drew it should be fired. Neither of those threats exist once you remove the real threat that by all appearances has begun to starve everybody. I wonder if all of the idiots will still be non-stop bitching about the scourge of terrorism when they have nothing to eat and the currency is ass-wipe... probably.
The vast majority of people do not understand that everything that is happening in the world today is planned for the creation of a globalist technocratically run slave world.
We know the what. We are seeing the how unfold before us. The ultimate question is "why?".
Sure they have tried it before with the Venetian banking empire (most likely there were other banking empires before that) and then the British banking empire ... now the US and ultimately Israeli if we are to believe prophesy.
But, why?
It is evil, but why?
Because those free marketeers of outer space want to make the planet warmer for them underground reptilians, that's why!
Psychopaths have this weird affinity for total control. Go figure.
Where's the fucking unicorn?
I agree that the turrurism thing is nauseating granted.
Still kinda funny though but then again it's not funny now is it? They are just not letting this one go are they? You'd of thought with the whole hockey stick fiasco and some others that they'd just move on but this one is too freaking juicy if you've ever debated someone over climate change they are worse than debating some religious fanatics it is the new religion.
Defend the earth kill all the people.
REMEMBER THE AVATAR!!!!!
Sigh it's just comming from every angle as if someone spilled a giant oceans sized glass of stupid.
Funny how people with religious thinking on the best method we have of knowing the laws of nature blame those who follow it of religious thinking. Almost 1984-ish.
The only thing missing is oboner's helmet and drool cup. He's the first black, partially, and handicapped president. Derrrrrrr
Damn dem progressive globalists. Don't they know that if weather patterns change severely and crops fail people can always eat rocks?! And if migration pressure from those govt subsidized bums who don't want to eat rocks gets bad, well, instead of rocks we could eat people?! There's even a movie about that, pretty funny that one is. And if places become inhospitable, like Saudi Arabia, well, that was always sand and them sheiks always been living la vida loca out of that oil right? haha, dem libs... And if the Himalayan glaciers evaporate and the Ganges dries, well, we can always use some more of those indian engineers and those Bangladeshi garment makers closer to home, right? hahaha, those alarmists. It's all fine, keep calm and consuming duuuudeees. No worries.
The sword was in fact gifted by America itself
The puppets Punch & Judy would be far more credible opponents of ISIS than Barry & Michael. At least Punch & Judy live in the REAL world. I don't know what world Barry & Michael live in, but it isn't a real world.