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Britain May Launch ISIS Strikes "Within Days"; Germany To Join With Warship, Planes, Troops
On Saturday, in "'The Redcoats Are Coming!' Britain Moves Closer To Launching Anti-ISIS Airstrikes,” we warned that the skies above Syria were about to get even more crowded as David Cameron pushed British lawmakers to approve RAF strikes on Raqqa.
"It is wrong for the United Kingdom to expect the aircrews of other nations to carry the burdens and the risks of striking ISIL in Syria to stop terrorism here in Britain," Cameron said.
"I don't think this is a country that lets others like the French or the Americans defend our interests and protect us from terrorist organizations - we should contribute to that effort,” Finance minister George Osborne added, underscoring the perception that Britain’s military prowess is but a shadow of what it once was.
We also noted that Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn would not use a party whip to influence MP’s decisions. Over the weekend, Corbyn expressed serious reservations about the number of “moderate” rebels on the ground in Syria and also suggested that to the extent there are enough fighters to occupy the territory held by Islamic State once the group is routed, the UK shouldn’t assume that the fighters can be trusted. “I seriously question the number, I seriously question the motives and loyalty of those forces,” Corbyn said.
On Monday, Corbyn apparently attempted to compel party members to vote against military action in line with his own stance on the issue but after what FT described as a “fraught meeting”, the Labour leader bowed to internal pressure and conceded that MPs would be allowed to vote as they choose. Additionally, Corbyn abandoned the idea of setting an official policy of opposing air strikes no matter how party members voted after Andy Burnham, shadow home secretary, said that was “unacceptable”. Here's where Corbyn's shadow cabinet stands:
Against airstrikes
- Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the Labour party
- John McDonnell, shadow chancellor
- Jon Trickett, shadow communities secretary
- Diane Abbott, shadow international development secretary
- Ian Murray, shadow Scotland secretary
- John Cryer, chairman of the parliamentary Labour party
- Nia Griffith, shadow wales secretary
For airstrikes
- Tom Watson, deputy leader (who has asked Cameron to delay the vote pending proof that there are actually 70,000 moderate rebels on the ground)
- Angela Eagle, shadow first secretary of state and shadow business secretary
- Hilary Benn, shadow foreign secretary
- Heidi Alexander, shadow health secretary
- Lucy Powell, shadow education secretary
- Chris Bryant, shadow leader of the house of commons
- Vernon Coaker, shadow northern Ireland secretary
- Michael Dugher, shadow culture secretary
With that, the stage is set for Britain to join the fray. As FT goes on to note, Corbyn’s concession to his divided party “effectively guarantees that [David Cameron] can secure a Commons majority for war.” British military action could start “within days” as the PM “reacted quickly to Corbyn’s capitulation, announcing after he returned from the Paris climate summit that he would recommend to the cabinet on Tuesday that a one-day debate and vote on military intervention in Syria be held on Wednesday.”
With the vote thus set, "RAF crews could be bombing the Isis headquarters in Raqqa by the end of the week," The Guardian says. On Tuesday, Cameron said “the decision to take military action is one of the most serious a prime minister can make. Isis poses a very direct threat to the United Kingdom – and as we have already seen in Iraq, British airstrikes can play a key role in degrading them; but they are only part of a comprehensive strategy for Syria.
But that's not all. Germany is now set to enter the fight as well. "German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Cabinet approved deploying warplanes over Syria in the fight against Islamic State," Bloomberg reported on Tuesday. Apparently, Berlin is set to send Tornado surveillance planes, a frigate to protect France’s carrier, and aerial refueling for French fighter jets.
Parliament will need to approve the deployment and a vote is expected within days. All told, around 1,200 German troops are expected to participate. This should do wonders when it comes to stemming the flow of refugees into Germany because as France explained earlier this year, by far the best way to solve a refugee crisis is to drop more bombs on the place from which the refugees are fleeing.
And with that, two more world powers will now have planes in the sky and ships in the Mediterranean. Just to be clear, this means that by the end of next week, it's possible that American, French, Turkish, Russian, and German planes will all be flying missions above Syria, a decisively dangerous scenario now that Ankara has forced Moscow into a state of paranoia regarding the safety of The Kremlin's aircraft. With Russian S-400s at the ready, and with Su-34s now armed with air-to-air missiles, the potential exists for another "accident."
Additionally, it's worth reiterating that the West and the Russians still haven't resolved the most pressing issue when it comes to airstrikes in Syria. Namely that Moscow and Iran are still attacking the FSA and other rebel groups that are receiving guns and money on a weekly basis from the US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar. This means that while the West bombards Raqqa (or perhaps the better way to put is "while the West thinks they're bombarding Raqqa based on the 'intelligence' they receive from Washington"), America and its regional allies are engaged in a proxy war with Moscow and Tehran in the northwest part of the country. This makes absolutely no sense and it isn't at all compatible with David Cameron telling British lawmakers that the "moderate" opposition is in a position to hold territory formerly governed by ISIS. Not only are the rebels not in a position to secure towns and cities, they are being routed at Aleppo by the Russians and Iranians. At some point this has to be addressed but for the time being, everyone seems content with being invited to the party.
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No one wants to miss in on the action in Syria and Iraq. Syria is the new Libya.
US and European powers prepare military escalation in Iraq, Syria
By Thomas Gaist30 November 2015
Barely more than two weeks after the terror attacks in Paris, it has become utterly clear that the US and European ruling classes intend to use the events as the pretext for massive escalations of the Syrian-Iraq war. A consensus is rapidly emerging for new ground and air operations against cities across Syria and Iraq
“The Turkish government recently increased support for terrorists and the level of supplying them with arms, ammunition and munitions to continue their criminal acts in exchange for oil and antiquities stolen from Syria and Iraq at low prices, taking advantage of the presence of terrorists whom it enabled to control border areas,” the Syrian state media outlet SANA wrote over the weekend..
These events all point to the escalating danger of a generalized conflagration and the eruption of a world war. After weeks of much-hyped efforts to cobble together some multinational deal or coalition to “end” the war in Syria, recent developments on the ground have made clear that the major powers are all hurtling towards conflict.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/11/30/syri-n30.html
Britain May Launch ISIS Strikes "Within Days"; Germany To Join
You know what....I'm not saying a damn word here.
Merkel needs to be removed from power and she needs to be removed now.
She is an existential threat to the German nation.
Not going to happen. That stupid bitch still has enough to destroy yet.
"American, French, Turkish, Russian, and German planes will all be flying missions above Syria" and then Brittain. Then we'll add China to the mix. What could possibly go wrong?
My gut feel is that there may be an attempt by these parties to secure themselves some type of corridor through a part of Syria.
Of course, along the Euphrat river, the end goal has always been to destroy Syria the way it existed prior to 2011.
Corbyn didn't want to bomb, but the Shadow Secretary for Education, Powell of Syria, did, so bombs away.
Who's next for the coalition now that Limeyland is in? Lower Stankonia?
Too many politicians sending too many fighters into too small an area just to get, ahem, brownie points. What could go wrong?
So we're going to war with Russia but nobody want's to call it that yet?
from the first afghan war 1839
''But despite such occasional clumsiness on the part of the West’s current military and political representatives in Afghanistan, how far should we go in drawing parallels between nineteenth century colonial wars in Afghanistan and that of the present day? In a new book on the first Anglo-Afghan war the celebrated historian of Britain’s empire in India, William Dalrymple, argues that there are clear resemblances:
The closer I looked, the more the west’s first disastrous entanglement in Afghanistan seemed to contain echoes of the neo-colonial adventures of our own day. For the war of 1839 was waged on the basis of doctored intelligence about a virtually non-existent threat …''
Dalrymple goes on to describe the first invasion of Afghanistan by a British force in 1839 as an “illegal war”, refers to a “dodgy dossier” (the doctored reports of deputy envoy Alexander Burnes from Kabul) and quotes John MacNeill, the British ambassador who urged the Governor-General of India, Lord Auckland, to make war so as to counter a perceived Russian threat to India: ‘We should declare that he is who is not with us is against us … We must secure Afghanistan.” – rhetoric unconsciously echoed by the Bush administration more than a century and a half later.
http://www.drb.ie/essays/war-death-and-hubris
[Afghanistan]
Lord Palmerston, British foreign secretary in 1836, was well aware that Russia was using Persia as its stalking horse, testing Britan's resolve to maintain Afghanistan's terriorial integrity. The best way to foil Russian designs, he decided, was to counter a pro-Russian ruler in Persia with a pro-British ruler in Afghanistan... in what became known as the 'Great Game', the often secret struggle between Britain and Russia for control of the central Asian gateways into India
http://homepage.eircom.net/~odyssey/Quotes/History/History_Britain_Empir...
Why reinvent the wheel when it already rolls so well over little countries.
Bombing another state, without the express permission of the state to be bombed, constitutes an act of war.
exactly...that is the point everyone in the west keeps missing.
I don't understand why Russia/Syria/Iran call for a no fly zone in Syria. No one flies there without the permission of the sovereign state of Syria.
The headline should have been "Britain May Launch ISIS Strikes on her own people within days" to get strikes on Syria approved.
US war in Syria
Get out and go home.
Vote please.
They're going to need to build a train to the airport. Just sayin'
Nothing, nothing at all. Because the countries ready to escalate military action against this JV team of terrorists are involved in a global climate change summit. In the interest of not wanting to do any further damage to the environment they will not bomb the oil wells, and tanker trucks used to move ISIS crude oil.
Sounds reasonable to.....no one ever.
The war everybody wants and nobody can walk away from.
Swell.
#PissOffImInMyBunker
Well that answers my question: when are these USA bitches receiving marching orders, got em...
Read Matt Bracken books for free:
https://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/bracken-kindle.jpg
Keep your heads down, family close..
thanks for the tip... looking forward to reading them
"American, French, Turkish, Russian, and German planes will all be flying missions above Syria" and then Brittain. Then we'll add China to the mix. What could possibly go wrong?"
Don't forget Israel. They got there first.
ummmm no. You underestimate Israel. Israel already publicly confirmed that they are not going to fight against Russia under any circumstances. Israel will quietly wait on the sideline to see, who wins. It is only our idiotic puppet governments, who want to drag us directly into the fire.
Great comment, btw. lol
unless they are going to bomb Turkey I really don't see things changing
Putin plays checkers.
"American, French, Turkish, Russian, and German planes will all be flying missions above Syria" and then Brittain."
This is due to Putin being too afraid of NATO to have delcared a no-fly zone as soon as he started his air campaign. Now it appears too late and most likely Putin will be pushed back to his naval base and parts of the Syrian coast. The rest will be taken if he does not act, and he does not appear to have the backbone to act. Putin could have seized the day, but he did not, and now it may be lost.
As before, the NATO forces will bomb where they choose to bomb, missing the real terrorist. Then NATO will drop their bombs on the Syrian and Hezbollah forces. Syrian's men began deserting their army when it became clear they were wasting their lives in ever greater numbers. Putin began bombing to give some hope to the Syrian troops and even got Hezbollah to enter, along with Iran. But if Putin allows NATO bombs to hit these forces then the Syrian men (wisely) will give up and save themselves, Hezbollah will go home and prepare for the battle Israel/NATO intends for them (although possibly limited) and Iran will know their fate. Now is the time Putin fans. He acts or it is lost. But then maybe Putin was always party to the plan, he sure waited until Syria was almost finished to take any action to assist. Although Putin did force Assad to give up his chemical weapons, just like they did to Iraq before Russia watch it be destroyed also.
You raise some disquieting, but perfectly logical questions about the Russian strategy and tactics.
They shine the spotlight on their Abilities and Agenda. Sometimes, there is nothing worse in business or warfare than halfhearted or inadequate measures, which result in a waste of resources and opportunity, and end up falling just short of success. It would be like fumbling an American football at the opponent's 1 yard line: What a waste!
If time shows you to be correct, you will have shown that Mr. Putin his getting poor advice on the Scope, Steps and Timing of Russian actions. You can be sure that the West is using this situation as another opportunity to assess Putin's true intentions, as well as Russia's military abilities and responses in a combat situation. Russia is not only being denied full success in Syria, but is also being tested for future developments.
I will monitor developments, to determine how they align with your hypothesis.
So the supposed head of the Limey Labour Party Corbyn isn't going to lead over the most important issue of war? He didn't even consult with the "Shadow Minister without Portolio"?
"a decisively dangerous scenario now that Ankara has forced Moscow into a state of paranoia regarding the safety of The Kremlin's aircraft."
Russia forced by Turkey? State of paranoia?
What Limey fuck wrote this article?
Just now she sets up German troops for the big false flag.
They get hit and Russia be blamed.
I do not know how the german folk kept voting her back into power. It is as everyone was dormant ticking boxes.
Haus just show the german people this real picutre of her
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/merkelcommiesplash.jpg
German lawmakers are as bad, they are approving this in the end and could stop Merkel and von der Leyen. No backbone though, I wonder how many will abstain or vote no against this plan.
As for Britain, they're unsually slow in enganging, the lapdog of the US is usually barking the loudest of them all.
Putin's cock ( or the S-400 system ) is waiting for the RAF...
Is Turkey Waging War on Russia in Crimea, the Caucasus, and Central Asia? …. Sputnik News Interviews Sakerhttp://thesaker.is/is-turkey-waging-war-on-russia-in-crimea-the-caucasus...
Kaa BOO ki...Everything is made for TeeVee...soundbites abound, instigate fear, fear is the key, the collective mind-killer...
https://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2015/11/27/by-george-oh-well-war-psy-no...
Then I'll say something.
70,000 moderate rebels???
If stupidity was a crime, we could remove the English scourge from the face of the earth.
The fucking child molesting British are hugely responsible for this situation.
Long before US started playing policeman of the world, the British were fucking things up across the globe and Screwing with places they had no business screwing with.
Hey assholes, how about you end you occupation of Northern part of Ireland??? Take your transplanted "protestants" with you.
if I was playing a game of Risk it would be pretty clear to me what my opponents strategy was and if I was Putin I would be bracing for another "accident" in the sea or sky.
'cobbled together' but under what international law?
Russia's present by exercise of treaty with Syria
Too little too late. Most of those men crossing into Europe are people with no skills, no civilization, nothing but arrogance. These guys are more thugs than anything else and they know it. So, Europe has to deal with an army of potential criminals moving in: drug dealers, rapists, illiterates, muggers. On top of that, many have contagious diseases such as AIDS, hepatitis, strange venereal diseases, multi-drug resistant TB. Add the drug addicts and the psychotics to the list and you have real problems. Bombing Raqqa will not solve the real problem, which is that thanks to Obama and his NWO puppet masters, the world is on the fast track to going to hell in a handbasket. Just wonderful, isn't it?
Syria was a functioning state before America got involved.
The country had a population of 20 million people, living in peace, if not enormous prosperity. The people there were normal people. It had an economy primarily consisting of agriculture, textiles, phosphate and energy sectors.
When it was a functioning country, it had a homicide rate half that of the USA, other crime statistics (like rape) were also lower than the US, but relying on reported rates is questionable everywhere. Murder you can be pretty sure of.
So, which ones are the thugs?
The BIG problem the world has is America. Destroy just 3 buildings in America with nukes and most of the rest of the world could breathe a sigh of relief.
Nuke three buildings in America and the World will not be breathing at all.
A retalitory and massive Nuclear Strike is all but assured in that scenario.
And the Nuclear Winter that follows kills off all of the Surface Plant Life along with te Ocean's Plankton.
Threre will be NO OXYGEN TO BREATHE.
Nuclear War is Global SUICIDE. It is an OMNICIDE as it is an EXTINCTION LEVEL EVENT.
LEARN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCTKcd2Ko98
Yeah. The World Leaders are at a summit about Climate Change...and doing their damnedest to make it a certainty, to bring one on.
They are so mistaken about AGW that they are planning a way to cool off the Planet rapidly. And Global Thermonuclear War will do the trick.
ON ANOTHER NOTE...
So now that all of the Chess Pieces are in place it will not surprise me if the shitshow moves a little south to Har Meggido. I am rather expecting that.
I knew that I'd get an idiot who believes in AGW to respond...with a downarrow.
Anthropormorphic Global Warming is a MYTH. The same Greenhouse Gases that supposedly blanket heat into the Atmosphere since it is opaque, ALSO SERVES TO REFLECT the HEAT FROM THE SUN, BACK INTO SPACE.
Actually the increases in GEOLOGICAL ACTIVITY which are EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED indicates that something is going on in the Core and Mantle of the Earth and is the source of the HEAT.
MAN has NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
So since our World Leaders are so WRONG by believing this BULLSHIT, or know different and are trying to sell the idea to you so that they can tax you, they are planning to CAUSE a Climate Change by provoking a Thermonuclear War.
Of course that was a remark of SATIRE in the original post.
nice Picture of "Die Führerin" http://qpress.de/2015/11/27/bundestagswahl-2017-faellt-wegen-krieg-aus/
she is doing her Job for the USA, and the USA is doing their Job for Israel.............
One by one they are all queuing up to throw 'their' hats into the ring, we are nearly there......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...
Problem Reaction Solution
Works every time.
Pick one, Bush or Clinton.
If Trump wins the nomination.....I'm sending my campaign money to Hitler's offspring.....because I care about this country and I'm not looking to profit.
Are they gone?
Do you think they bought it?
with all that firepower
it's amazing this "JV Team" is still around
and yet,they live to fight another day
Silly boy. That will be solved with 'boots on the ground'. It's all in the heavily redacted 'need to know' playbook.
You may buy a copy at Amazon. Just search for the words "War is a racket".
Why buy it when it is available for free...HERE? (Click on the word HERE, newbees.)
They need to learn, CD.
We need to make the information readily available...if we are to stop this nightmare in its tracs.
Oh I know that we stand a small chance of doing that but that is better than no chance at all.
Thinking the same things, this ISIS gang is one tough outfit. Two super powers and associated minions and they still hang around.
What a fucking joke.
Right?!?! Lot of reaction to such a JV squad.
Why not just covertly arm moderates to take out ISIS?
oh wait....
The crazy fuckers in our (german) government must be fully aware that they will only invite "counterstrikes" by "IS" on our national territory, and I have no doubt that the majority of our population does not agree with this step.
Evidently they need those to push through who knows which "security measures" to "protect the citizens".
Looks like the next elections will be interesting, to say the least.
When is your next election?
..but whatever the answer, it is not soon enough.
All the Brits have to do is stand facing the ISIS terrorists and open their mouths. The sight of those British teeth will scare those terrorists right back into their caves.
it is too late. You already let the murders in
A stateless body such as ISIS having the capability to make war in itself is a manifestation of God’s hand. ISIS is undefeatable!
Resistance is futile.
I guess you can call the CIA stateless, they do whatever the hell they want.
Senseless works too.
What's that drug called again?
Some may not realize you are using sarcasm. You are...aren't you?
Destroy rebuild, destroy rebuild...such BS.
Syrians in Germany...
Germans in Syria...
Helluva Foreign Exchange Program Merkle's running.
It's all very logical.
We let young fighting age Syrians with a propensity for violence into Europe at taxpayer's cost, so that we Europeans can fight for them in Syria - at taxpayer's cost. Awesome.
Then when the shtf in Syria, the syrians in Germany will start attacking the germans. Two front battlefield.
All this show of force just for a bunch of desert bandits with no air force & little in the way of heavy weapons either?
I think not. We move one step closer to global war.
Is this 1914 deja vu? see: www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/11/30/syri-n30.html
merkel is the doppleganger of obuma, both hell bent on destruction of both nations..for the greater good of NWO rule.
Russia and China have nothing to fear from the west, limp wrist and lbgt genetic mutants .. it is comical to see them with grim resolve over climate and the comedy of open borders policy..it is now pure farce.
Funny how it takes all the major world powers to wipe out a few thousand goat fuckers. It's almost as believable as the Easter bunny.
The Russians didn't need to launch their strategic bombers to bomb goat fuckers & the combined airforces of the UK, France, Germany & whoever else aren't really required either.
I don't think the goat fuckers actually have anything to do with it.
Surely this Raqqa place is nothing but ruins by now anyhow?
A lovely place, untouched I tell you, untouched.
So many planes, so many countries. What could possibly go wrong?
So rather than secure their borders, Germany is now going to create even more refugees. Brilliant!
WORST. MOVIE. EVAH!!!!
In WW II the I.G. Farben office building in Frankfurt, an early modernist structure of huge proportions, was untouched by the Allied bombings. This was literally the largest office building in Europe. It is still being used today by other owners. This "war" on ISIS, and ISIS itself is all for show.
When I read Syria should I assume Syria AND Iraq ? It is so confusing.
Here is an interesting site - Syria's size is very similar to Florida (US).
http://mapfight.appspot.com/sy-vs-us.fl/syria-florida-us-size-comparison
NOT IN MY F*****G NAME , ok MR Camoron and those Labour MPs in favour heres your rifle and parachutes, but they wont be sending their sons and daughters
What a contradiction and stark contrast really looks like!... Be "thankful" but only for a limited time growing shorter and while supplies last!
We never say it often enough how the U.S. Congress and President would react if our train stations were bombed (by Russians)..., Our U.S. neighbors on our borders were overthrown (by Russians)... Our U.S. assets frozen (by Russians)... Our commercial airliners with U.S. passengers on an international flight were killed (by Russians) ...and our U.S. military pilots shot down (by Russians)...
P.S.
Corbyn is nothing more than a white version of Obama that was brought in for "controlled opposition".
To NATO and the Anglo-Ameircan covet-nant that controls it...
Think things over very, very, very carefully before you make the next one happen!
Those Russian S-400's are giving the world more confidence in fighting cough, cough, ISIS all of a sudden.
I can't find information about where german troops will be sent and what they will do.
1,200 troops appear too small to fight in this war, and I don't think germans want to die there.
They will be in ships (well off shore) and airplanes ( +ground support, not in Syria).
But they will spend 173 mio Euros.
And maybe they will be the main story to be harmed by evil Russians.
Because the gap between Germany and Russia is not - yet - big enough.
Stay tuned.
The "Euro" alliance hurriedly takes form.
To challenge Putin as the "only" western country defending its "christian" values against rabid Jihad; all the while Erdogan has "carte blanche" and 3 billion Euros to "solve" the refugee problem tearing apart EU and ensure that a "moderate" Allah o Akbar Sunni axis replaces the ISIS mercenary army serving "obscure and unknown" Salafist forces.
Obama got a temporary win there in Paris to provisionally check but not mate Putin in their great Asian game and challenge Gazprom's hold on Old Euro Continent.
But the petro-$ is not off the hook as Saud is shaking under the twin neo-Ottoman cum Hashassin ISIS challenge to head Sunni ISlam; all the while it seeths under the rise of Shia "Safavid" military cum energy cum RM bonanza land of Iran unchained from embargo.
A region that Sykes- Picot took over after the fall of old empires in 1918; along with Balfour's Palestinian dictat of carving up the region into two daggers drawn nations, spawned by Pax Britannica's old divide and conquer mantra.
Until FDR and Saud turned that British cum French applecart in 1945 and Eisenhower/Dulles' nailed its coffin in 1956 Suez canal attack abortion. The US ruled alone with the Sauds and Shah as surrogates controlling Oil's biggest source and vital trade route East-West.
Tipping moments now prevail in Arab lands, a return to impose a new multipolarity that hearkens back to pre Sykes-Picot dictat and what followed.
Note that Turkey CONTROLS all the waters of the region via Tigris and Euphrates-- and the WEST knows that huge comparative advantage for Erdogan (whence the Kurd alternative to divide and rule further down the road that the US holds up its sleeve).
Meanwhile, in Libya where Obama and consorts killed off Q-daffy, his home town SIRTE is the new staging base for an ISIS threatened in Syrac. Fallback to Sahel Land!
What you sow in African Sahel you now reap, Pax Americana and consorts. As if Iraq was not enuff this militarist rampage of 25 years has poisoned the whole of what was the Ottoman Empire.
What a game; when OIL and religion come forefrunt to BLUNT the legacy of the West's Enlightenment now a weak candle flickering in a strong desert wind.
No wonder China wants a military base in Djibouti after its inroads into Gwadar Pakistan; its first base in the Arabian Seas; just on the frontier with future ally Iran...The Silk route acquires a new focal point. All the while IMF says "join the Bankster club"!
The IMF, along with the FED and ECB, is Cerberus, the three-headed financial dog guarding the Petrodollar hegemony of toxic fiat Hades.
The Asian pivot a return to pre-Columbian 1492 Renaissance world ?
I guess Putin doesn't have the "smoking gun" implicating Erdogan/IS relationship?
Oh great..... terrorist attacks in the UK and Germany next.
Why oh why can't these evil politicians just stay out of meddling and killing?
Did Obama ever start bombing again? After not doing anything for a year, he actually completely stopped claiming he was doing anything when Russia rolled in with the air to air defenses.
This sounds closest to a cluster fuck if I ever saw one.
Bombing ain't gonna do shit.
I agree. Get boots in the ground and shoot every fucking thing that moves. Period.
unkle, here over a year, and still cock sure kill em all. try reading a little more Ron Paul or get general s butler's(multiple medal of honors btw) book "war is a racket".. a hint from someone who has been there and done that. 101st abn.
They will be bombing Assad's forces. Any hits on ISIS will be unfortunate collateral.
IF ISIS shoots down a german or brit they will have to ask Assad or Iranians to find them.
Also Israel is busy trying to hack S400 to get it shoot down planes
(that's great news)
I wonder what Obama's cut of the ISIS oil sales was? I mean, he selfish and corrupt as shit. I really dont need any more evidence than his protection of ISIS for a year.
this has gotten beyond comical. Not even funny anymore. So let me get this straight. We will the USSA, Brits, Krauts, France , all the kings horses and all the kings men, to fight a group that doesnt even own a Tank ?? Stop and think of how ridiculous this is. Thats not even including Russia because they are actually there for legit reasons. All you need to know . THE only thing .. Why doesnt Tel Aviv get so much a scratch?? Please. Every single US military person. Turn your turrets. Dont be in harms way for this. Dont let your sons and daughters come back in body bags so the jooos can lay their pipeline.. Your enemy by far is within, not in Syria not in Russia. To every person that has or hasnt lost a loved one in this Con lasting almost 15 years. You owe it to everyone to know inform what is going on here. The only way to stop this is criminal nonsense is to tell everyone what is really going on. What the REAL motives are.
You are a fucking dumbass. You dont know shit. You idiots think everything is a conspiracy just to make money. These assholes are bombing people and places at random. They are funded by middle east oil barons and there is only one way to stop them and it is not by trying to understand their plight by hugging it out. They dont have a fucking plight. Their goal is to kill westerners any way possible. So, unless you have a better plan, pick a side or shut the fuck up and let the real men handle this so you pussies can go back to your internet lives.
You are a total neocon scum bag. OBAMA FUNDS ISIS YOU MORON! HE IS ALLIES WITH THOSE THAT FUND AND SUPPORT ISIS!
YOU DON'T LIKE ISIS?
(then stop paying your fucking taxes)
was this meant as sarcasm?
"let the real men handle this so you pussies can go back to your internet lives."
Said the pussy from the safety of his keyboard located in his mother's basement.
The way the west is rushing to get back in and deal with ISIS reminds me of the ending in Casino where Remo Gaggi starts cleaning up loose ends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhUZaAYsaGU
For all of you pussies whining about how war is a racket just to spend money, how about we just sit on our hands until they start bombing your neighborhoods, raping your wives and daighters and destroying your society. These fucking mongrels only understand one thing; brute force. You kick their asses right in their own front yard so all of the locals they have been terrorizing can see just how puny and weak they really are. I say bombs away. Wipe these fuckers off the map. Make sure you all load up on defense contractor stocks. Turn the middle east into glass so the rest of the world can sleep easier.
i got a better idea. Since your so painfully un informed. Have Putin Park a few SU34s at the Doors of Goldman, JP Morgue, Yellen's back door. Youll see how fast these wars end and ISIS majically disppears shortly there after . Yes you all did read Smedley Butler right All wars are banker wars.
You dont half-ass anything: YOU'RE A TOTAL JACK-ASS!
Rather than a snarky reply to your "bomb the bastards to hell" post, I will offer you this link that explains why creating more terror (like bombings peoples' fathers, mothers and children) does not lead to less terrorism, it leads to more. It is exactly what TPTB want. In essence your solution plays right into the evil doers hands. Read it and tell me you have the same opinion after you are done.
http://www.dansanchez.me/feed/they-sow-the-cyclone-we-reap-the-blowback
so, let's have more of what caused the problem in the first place? Idiot
Too much Fox News for you.
Why dont you go find a nice quiet place to fuck yourself, you obtuse and mincing faggot?
how about we just sit on our hands until they start bombing your neighborhoods, raping your wives and daighters and destroying your society.
That "we fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" dog doesn't hunt. That's naive propaganda from 100 years ago. We're all more sophisticated (yet equally insulated ... witness WTC7 falling down and less than 8% of us knowing about it) consumers of propaganda.
Yee haw - no shit! Let's remember the Maine and the Alamo and get out there and destroy them villages to save them. Don't you be a pussy. There is a recruiting depot at most strip malls ..so get in the fight. You tell them that ol' Uncle Smedley sent you. And don't forget - the only good injun is a dead injun.
BTW In your case, war is a racket like a tennis racket - easy to serve, tough to return. Anyway God speed and write us and tell us how you're getting on.
Holy shit - I almost missed a huge opportunity. Unklemunky - in advance THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE! With that - I declare early beers
"Such a HUGE maneuver box to have all those nations jets in ..."
"Certainly, nothing bad would happen ..."
(sarc - off)
Putin has been militarily effective while remaining nonreactive to cabal provocation til now. With 'western help' moving into his syrian sandbox airspace, it will be interesting how he hands them their ass once again.
The russian bear has yet to be caught unprepared. I suspect Russian advanced electronic warfare devices, demonstrated on a limited bases already, will be used to neuter threats of 'friendly fire'. Air to air missiles went on the SU's this week, so the grinning bear's teeth are exposed.
This is turning in to a complete farce.
Who's fighting whom?
Are we sure that Assad's forces aren't going to be bombed?
If we are on side with Russia and Syria then how does Turkey fit?
Of course this scramble to bomb "loony toon" terrorists in Toyota pick up trucks is like a black comedy.
Is there an alternative agenda in play here? Are we snuggling up to the Russians, because their latest electronic warfare devices have scared the sh*t out of NATO and the US so we wish to spy on them?
Does any remember a US Aegis equipped vessel being left blacked out after a Russian warplane flew past? What about a certain US aircraft carrier seeking safe harbour in the UK? What about those other recent incidents that didn't get reported in the MSM?
Are we sure that Assad's forces aren't going to be bombed?
Don't Assad, the Syrian government, and the Syrian people have something to say about this. I haven't seen Assad asking Germany, the US, the UK and Turkey for assistance. I've seen him going to Russia for assistance. And I haven't seen any complaints about Russia's effectiveness in dealing with the issue.
When you know ISIS is the creation of CIA/Mossad and is a mercenary force furthering the tribe's interest in taking over the entire Middle East, this is all pretty transparent. Read "The Hidden History of Zionism".
What would happen if one night, all the ISIS fighters snuck away from Syria and went someplace else - say Egypt. Would all the bombers follow them ?
haha Merkel is sending German troops. What a wonderful opportunity for ISIS to kidnap a bunch of greeny simpering wimps...plus they already have thousands of moles flooding into the heart of the father(less)land. Germany is ripe for coup, before its too late...
"Just to be clear, this means that by the end of next week, it's possible that American, French, Turkish, Russian, and German planes will all be flying missions above Syria"
Except that there are reports that US, French and Turkish planes have been grounded since Putin moved his S-400 missile bats and electronic jamming gear into Syria which apparently can cause permanent damage to sophisticated electronics systems in other jets.
If true, WTF is Cameron doing??
Also, am I to believe that ISIS HQ in Raqqa is still there and has not already been bombed by Russia??
Except that there are reports that US, French and Turkish planes have been grounded since Putin moved his S-400 missile bats and electronic jamming gear into Syria which apparently can cause permanent damage to sophisticated electronics systems in other jets.
Exactly!!! IMHO it has more to do with Russia's EW capabilities than anything else.
With the vote thus set, "RAF crews could be bombing the Isis headquarters in Raqqa by the end of the week," The Guardian says.
I wouldn't be so sure of that Guardian. If Russia doesn't agree to the UK's involvement in bombing over Syrian airspace it is not going to happen. After Russia gave the Israelis and the USA a demonstration of their new electronic warfare systems based in Syria a few weeks ago, where their aircraft's air to ground and air to air communications were completely blacked out (from all reports the EW system can also disable their flight control and targeting systems as well), neither country's aircraft have been seen in the area since then.
If I read this correctly a message along these lines will be given to the UK (and/or Germany) from Russia - "Either you focus exactly on those targets we provide to you, or you don't intrude into Syrian airspace. If you don't agree to this then we will disable your aircraft." This effectively puts an end to the "West's" bombing of Syrian infrastructure using the pretext of "bombing ISIS", as has been going on for some time up until recently. Hasn't anyone noticed that there have been ZERO reports of any American or Israeli air operations over Syria in the last few weeks??
Well then, if we DO see the NATO countries bombing in Syria again soon we know the hype about Russia having secret electroinic weapons that can disable a plane or entire ship with the flip of a switch were false. Russia would never agree to NATO restarting their air campaign if Russia had such a weapon.
Total FUBAR. Time to kick Turkey out of NATO alliance and further embarrass Obama's absurd foreign policy...
And who invited them?? No one! Russis was invited, no-one has invited the UK or US .. FFS!!
>>>>> "It is wrong for the United Kingdom to expect the aircrews of other nations to carry the burdens and the risks of striking ISIL in Syria to stop terrorism here in Britain," Cameron said. <<<<<
Hey you stupid pig fucker, how about you clean up your own shit hole of a country first before bombing someone else's.
You want to stop terror at home? Stop bringing in terrorists.
Have the politicians in the last 10 years become especially stupid????
They have become increasingly Zionist. Does that count?
exactly..this from a country that has turn their own capitol from London to Londonistan!
What do you get when you mix a Pig Fucker with a group of Goat Fuckers?
Merkel hates Germany and the German people.
http://balder.org/judea/Richard-Coudenhove-Kalergi-Practical-Idealism-Vi...
AND NO ONE KNEW ABOUT THE OIL CONVOYS SUPPORTING ISIS. Everyone is looking very dishonest except for Russia
Russia recently released some info on the ISIS gravy train that all of the powers with perceived interests in the region would have known for quite some time.
They waited to release that information until it suited their interests in the regional conflict, rather than preemptively or early on when it may have slowed or even temporarily stopped the conflict.
I wish people here would quit acting like Putin's shit doesn't stink. He may be the cleanest shirt in that region's geopolitical laundry, but there's a brimstone stench emanating from that hamper.
There are no good guys, just different groups of gangsters.
And if Putin took his case to the UN? He would have been ignored. What other way could it have happened? You think NATO would have done something with this information, aside from ignore it? It could benefit Russia, or benefit nobody. Putin chose to benefit Russia. Maybe that's why he has a 90% approval rating. At least the Russian people feel like he gives a damn about Russia. After the criminals install Hillary in the US, (voting doesn't matter, she's getting in no matter how many crimes she commits), we'll see how dedicated she is to "Truth, justice, and the American way."
You are absolutely correct. That being said his actions and words have been in accordance of what I would expect out of a national leader attempting to increase the power, prestige, and wealth of his nation and himself along with it. The actions and deeds of nearly everyone else is what I expect from morons, idealogues, or puppets for hidden interests. It is a mark of how corrupted the Western civilization has become that a ex-KGB narcissistic psychopath gangster is the most trusted and sane of the world leaders.
Gog, Magog, and their useful idiots.
What could go wrong?
The British Regime has supported terrorists in Syria. It is a clear and existential threat to Syria. Syria should be allowed to bomb the UK to remove this existential threat.
Stop being so bloody logical
Party on! Just getting everyone in place for the main event. When China arrives, we are ready.
Front row tickets please for Obozo and his puppets.
This is going to end very badly.
yes, there is a rapidly growing chance this will end very badly.
Russia is the last bastion of civilization, humanity and independence right now.
Seems that way. And they sure can get a party started, eh?
A detailed accounting of the various customers for stolen Syrian oil can be found at Oilprice.com here. Yes, there are probably some businesses in Syria buying the stolen oil at greatly reduced prices but apparently, if you follow the oil trail back into northern Iraq, you’ll find the biggest single purchaser of this liquid loot to be… the Kurds.
Yes, the Kurds of the Barzani clan, who have been looting their own Iraqi Kurdistan oil business for decades, also happen to be the main customer of “ISIS” oil. Those self-same Kurds who Obama praises for their fight against “ISIS” and who are currently ethnically cleansing areas in Iraq and Syria so they can set up Greater Kurdistan, just happen to be the biggest winner in the “ISIS” Oil Lottery.
What does Barzani and the Kurds do with the “ISIS” oil? Well they sell it to Israel of course on the cheap and off the books.
Israel has bought as much as three-quarters of its oil from Iraqi Kurdistan in recent months, the Financial Times reported Sunday.
According to the report, which cited shipping data, trading sources and satellite tanker tracking, Israeli refineries and oil firms have imported more than 19 million barrels of Kurdish oil over the course of three months, from the beginning of May to August 11.
https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2015/11/16/after-paris-attacks-france-b...
Does this mean LONDON is next in the targets of ISIS? (AGAIN)
Britain and Germany attacking Israhell? F'ing awesome.
Looks like NATO is all-in with the Syria campaign now. It cant be long before this spirals into a major incident between Russia and NATO.
Now that the Russian Bear has left piles of dead USSA I$I$ "assets" littering the wastes of Syria the vassal remnants of the Anglozionazi Empire of Chaos, like craven zombies, are congregating around the stinking road kill as if they had a chance of influencing where Syria's allegiance will lie after the feast of Mercan made death and carnage.
So good you Euro clowns could catch up. Don't strain your budgets now and if you do the US taxpayer will pick up the tab. It's all good. Now Prince Harry has somewhere new to go.
One by one they are all queuing up to throw 'their' hats into the ring, we are nearly there......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...
With all those western warplanes flying around let's hope the globalist cronies haven't been able to hack the Russian S-400 systems.
If you can hack a plane in the middle of the Indian ocean or fly one into the ground in the alps, I would imagine you can easily hack an S400. I would not want to be flying one of those crappy 20yr old UK tornadoes next week that's for sure. Although that said, they are probalby too old to hack!
"Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the British Labour Party, is a man of genuine integrity and honesty in his opposition to British bombing of Syria.
Indeed, he is everything the Prime Minister of Britain, David Cameron, is not.
I think we see from the storm in the British press against Corbyn just how much the establishment values integrity and honesty, which is to say, not at all.
Almost every word of Cameron’s on the subject of bombing is deliberately deceptive.
He is in fact an intimate part of “the club” which privately regards ISIS and other murdering rogues as tools to an end, and that end is to destroy Assad and turn Syria into a rump state. The club’s members always falsely describe the situation in Syria as a civil war rather than what it truly is, an invasion of a peaceful land by the creatures of outside powers."
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http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/11/britains-david-cameron-wants-t...
Part of the show. Controlled opposition