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Caught On Tape: Russian Navy Ship Runs Into Turkish Sub In Dardanelles

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A few days ago, in “Turkey's Trump Card: Erdogan Can Cut Russia's Syrian Supply Line By Closing Bosphorus,” we suggested that if Ankara wants to retaliate against Russia for the raft of economic sanctions The Kremlin slapped on Turkey over the weekend, closing the Bosphorus Strait might be a better idea than attempting to do without Russian gas. 

After all, Turkey gets more than half of its gas from Gazprom, and given Erdogan’s support for the various rebels battling for control of Syria, this might not be an opportune time for Ankara to try and negotiate with Iran for more supply. 

Closing the Bosphorus however, would achieve two things. First, it would send a message to Moscow that not only will Ankara not apologize for inexplicably blowing a Russian Su-24 warplane out of the sky, Turkey will in fact escalate the situation further. Second, it would cut Russia off from a key supply route to Latakia. That’s not to say Moscow wouldn't get there eventually, but Turkey could make things exceptionally inconvenient by blockading the strait. 

Just yesterday, Interfax reminded the world that there are two Turkish subs on patrol near the Russian guided missile destroyer Moskva, which was sent to coastal Latakia in the wake the Su-24 downing. Here's more (translated): 

In the area of ??the Guards missile cruiser "Moskva", covering the Russian airbase "Hmeymim" in the Syrian city of Latakia, there are at least two submarines of the Turkish Navy, according to the Istanbul media.

 

According to the Turkish General Staff, is currently on patrol in the eastern Mediterranean are submarines "Dolunay" and "Burakreis." Submarine "Dolunay" went on patrol to the region on November 11 "Burakreis" - on 7 November.

Sputnik, citing "reports", suggests that those subs may be "following" the Russian vessel. 

In the latest maritime drama, a Russian Naval transport ship encountered a Turkish sub while navigating the Dardanelles. "A logistics ship belonging to the Russian navy has encountered a Turkish submarine passing through the Dardanelles toward the Marmara Sea, accompanied by a Turkish coast guard boat," Hurriyet reports, adding that "a tense moment occurred when the 133-meter ship, the Yauda, arrived at the Dardanelles from the Aegean Sea at around 10 a.m. on Nov. 30. and encountered a Turkish submarine across the shores of Canakkale's Eceabat." 

"The Russian ship, which was passing from the Aegean Sea into the Sea of Marmara, is believed to have been on its way to the Black Sea," Sputnik says. "The video accompanying the news report was reportedly filmed in the city of Canakkale, on the southern coast of the Dardanelles, at their narrowest point."

Here's the clip:

 

Meanwhile, a military-diplomatic source in Russia downplayed the "chance" meeting on Tuesday and also sought to dispel reports that Russian ships are facing delays in the Bosphorus. Some had grown weary after video sufaced that appeared to show vessels parked for "hours":  

"There are no problems with Russian ships passing through the straits, although it is quite normal that some vessels are waiting due to the straits' workload or natural disasters, hampering navigation," the source told RIA Novosti on Tuesday. 

"As for the Turkish submarine, there is nothing extraordinary in the fact that she met with our cargo ship, given that the vessels regularly pass through Strait in both directions, as well as other ships of the Turkish Navy," he added.

Draw your own conclusions.

 

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Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:25 | 6861382 Impoverished Ps...
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At some point Vlad is going to get annoyed and then we are all toast, Erdogan is desperately tyring to start WW3

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:29 | 6861395 Looney
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Here’s some useless trivia…

The Dardanelles is where the city of Troy used to be…

Looney

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:33 | 6861411 svayambhu108
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They(all the Soros-ies) are waiting for the first country that goes beserk. Seems that even the Ukies are not that dumb.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:34 | 6861421 Looney
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Long Trojan horses and extra-long Trojan condoms!  ;-)

Looney

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:41 | 6861452 ThaBigPerm
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After reading "runs into", I was expecting something a bit more exciting.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:49 | 6861496 Sages wife
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Me too. Clearly the suburban definition.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:53 | 6861527 SWRichmond
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Closing the Straits is an act of war.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:06 | 6861578 TruxtonSpangler
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"Runs Into" ?? This gets the award for most misleading headline of 2015

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:16 | 6861619 Paveway IV
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All that cred for a decent series of articles on ISIS oil, instantly destroyed by a deceptive and totally unnecessary tabloid headline.

Do you work for the U.S. government or the National Enquirer by any chance, Tyler? It's almost like begging people to believe ZH is irrelevant.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:28 | 6861667 Tarzan
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Oh, My bad, you meant the Russian ship "Ran into" a Turkish Sub, kinda like they "ran into" an old friend and talked a while.

 

If Tyler wants to help inform the public in such serious times and be a trusted alternative news sight you should probably avoid misleading hyperbole in your headlines!

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:42 | 6861722 tmosley
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At some point, the Bosphorus straight becomes the Bosphorus crater, and will be much easier to navigate.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:15 | 6861862 RonArgent
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gawddam Bush! If only we had a negro President, the world would live in harmony, er I mean a lesbian President

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:43 | 6862327 Anonymous User
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This is what the turkey will run into, if it keeps playing with fire.

 

http://goo.gl/ohSME8

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:50 | 6862372 BarkingCat
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Let me guess, more porn?

No regular reader is falling for your bait anymore.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:57 | 6862408 Analog
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At some point, the Bosphorus straight becomes the Bosphorus crater, and will be much easier to navigate.

That's so bad, and appropriate, I don't know whether to give you an UP arrow or a DOWN one.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:00 | 6861782 1223pm
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Taylor has long gone. He sold us to fucken Tribe and probably sipping martini at somewhere the warm island.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:57 | 6862415 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Vice News was definitely Zionized - I guess vice got too large to not be targeted for Zio control, too. ostrovsky's dispatches from ukraine were a master class in neocon propaganda

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 19:27 | 6863097 conscious being
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Raymond, there was a sort of rogue travel magazine start-up going around here years ago. It was very popular. One thing they used to do was goof on obnoxious Israeli travelers, [Who in all fairness are not like they used to be.] So one day, the magazine was bought and then a couple of months later, shut down by the new zino-media owners. They don't want anyone running around off the reservation, like they were free or something.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:03 | 6862452 Analog
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Taylor has long gone. He sold us to fucken Tribe and probably sipping martini at somewhere the warm island.

WHY are people downvoting the truth?

Tyler (not Taylor) is long gone, this site is now the International Enquirer.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:12 | 6861845 BarnacleBill
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Come on, people! Cut the man some slack. Sometimes when one tries to be funny it doesn't quite come off. This is still the best damn site of its kind on the Net, by a long way.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:09 | 6862141 RAT005
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Thanks for saving the time of watching the vids

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:06 | 6861580 pods
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I don't even think that counted for a micro-aggression.

pods

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:20 | 6861630 Caleb Abell
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A micro-aggression.

 

That's when a midget gets pissed off and punches you in the ankle.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:31 | 6861677 Tarzan
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Pods is correct,

it doesn't even count for a punch in the ankle.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:49 | 6861747 Macon Richardson
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Your example is definitely a low blow.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:13 | 6862514 MSimon
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It was a milli-aggression.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:06 | 6861581 Four chan
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as should be clickbait.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:52 | 6861516 kralizec
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A blockade could be exciting.  What exactly do you want?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:52 | 6861517 Newsboy
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"No hurt, no Foul"

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:52 | 6861525 Newsboy
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"No Hurt, No Foul"

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:25 | 6861654 Mr. Cynic
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Me too.  Like a Turkish submarine with a split hull, heading toward Davy Jone's locker.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 19:00 | 6862952 Kirk2NCC1701
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Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:33 | 6861419 Truther
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The Turks are asking for it.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:45 | 6861479 Blankone
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Why?  Because they had one of their naval ships passing through the strait?

Now if you mean because of the jet then you are correct.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:32 | 6861918 Tarzan
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NATO is the one asking for it,

the Turks are just the pawns being stirred up like a witches brew by Erdogan the Psychotic Globalist NUT...

 

Was it a coincidence the Russian jet was shot down exactly where and when they told Nato they would be flying? 

As far as I know, America has not denied recieving Russia's flight path for that day, nor that the jet fell over the vary path they gave.

 

 

"PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN has said that Russia had given prior information to the United States of the flight path of the plane downed by Turkey on the Syrian border.

“The American side, which leads the coalition that Turkey belongs to, knew about the location and time of our planes’ flights, and we were hit exactly there and at that time,” Putin said" at a joint press conference with French counterpart François Hollande in the Kremlin."

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:30 | 6861673 zz2ipper
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I wnt my click back.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:49 | 6861746 Griffin
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Troy is believed to be in a place called Hisarlik, somewhere close to Dardanelles.

http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/849

 

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:34 | 6861927 Herd Redirectio...
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The whole "Priam's Gold" thing was such a fraud I can scarcely believe anyone believes it, in the 21st century!

Heinrich Schliemann...  Con artist.  Friends with Parisian goldsmiths...  But no, it was Priam's Treasure!

Troy was probably on the site that Istanbul sits today.  You know, with those MASSIVE Theodosian walls?  Next you will be outraged to hear that I think the story of the Trojan Horse is actually a misinterpretation/exaggeration of a siege that was ended by an army inflitrating through old aqueducts that had been bricked over (aqua/equus, hell, some people were writing from right to left, letters themselves were not that standardized, some people weren't using vowels in their written documents, these kinds of mistakes happened).  Waited till morning, busted out of the old aqueduct, opened the gates, voila.  The Trojan Horse story is born (because it is more appealing to mankind's desire for sensationalism, I guess).

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 19:34 | 6863126 conscious being
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"hell, some people were writing from right to left, letters themselves were not that standardized, some people weren't using vowels in their written documents"

Like most (all?) ancient stories, the Illiad was passed along as an oral tradition, centuries before it was written down.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:26 | 6862583 GoldenGeezer
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I was in Canakkale 3 years ago. They have a modern version of the Trojan Horse near the marina. The site of Troy itself wasn't very much to look at.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:46 | 6861454 Grave
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russia should just take back occupied european territories including constantinople and deport any noneuropeans

and then reinstate varangian guard on the borders :)

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:56 | 6861543 Herd Redirectio...
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Or... Just get rid of Erdogan, and Russia allies with Turkey.

Everyone involved would be much better off!

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:00 | 6861557 Grave
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there's a long history of backstabbing, betrayal, aggression and wars against russia.

what goes around comes around (or "karma is a bitch")
slavic people are very patient

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:58 | 6862428 BarkingCat
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You are correct and Russians aren't the only Slavs that have a bad history with the Turks.

Also, as someone else corrected me, let's call it Byzantium as that name precedes Constantinople and Constantine does not deserve to have a city named after him.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:43 | 6861467 Noplebian
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Turkey are going to be used as the catalyst to 'officially' start WW3...... 

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:49 | 6861501 holgerdanske
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I don't think it is only Erdogan. Obama has an uncanny desire to get his ass kicked, and he will, if he continues like this.

I just hope Putin is calm enough to see through this child like behaviour, and I think he is.

BTW:

Caught On Tape: Russian Navy Ship Runs Into Turkish Sub In Dardanelles

is highly misleading. "Run into" as in "meets", rather than "rams".

A bit sensational, and we don't really need that at the moment.

The truth is bad enough, no need to embroider on that.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:27 | 6861665 Mr. Cynic
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Awww, come ON!!!

Don't you want rampant hyperbole, incendiary diatribes and tension racheting actions?

Where's the fun in calm, reasoned statesmanship?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:17 | 6861869 RonArgent
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Kicked or licked?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:28 | 6861388 KnuckleDragger-X
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The Turks better not be hoping that they'll get any real help from the dynamic duo of President Zippy and Ketchup-Boy. That's like asking the Mafia for a favor, except the Mafia would keep their bargain......

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:51 | 6861510 JuliaS
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Mobsters Without Borders

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:29 | 6861393 Chupacabra-322
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Well, surprise, surprise. Gulf of Tonkin part II.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:34 | 6861422 Truther
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More like Pearl Harbor II

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:35 | 6861428 1000yrdstare
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They are for sure cookin up a shit sandwich, and we all gonna take a bite....

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:13 | 6861609 Herd Redirectio...
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Russia don't want to fight Turkey, just like they don't want to fight Ukraine.  They want allies, but there are a lot of politicians willing to sell out their country for a pay cheque, come what may.  Thus, we see the Ukraine and Turkey situations that we do. 

Russia's enemies right now are in City of London, Tel Aviv, Basel, Frankfurt and Wall St.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:32 | 6861408 SgtShaftoe
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Until a torpedo is fired or a sub is rammed not much is going to happen.  If Erdogan really decides to bump titties with the russians he's going to be in for a very big surprise. 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:45 | 6861480 OregonGrown
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Until the torpedoes fired? How about when a plane gets shot down? Is that enough action to perk your interest?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:58 | 6861775 SgtShaftoe
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Putin has already handled that little transgression.  The second transgression will likely be the last thing those people invoved ever do. 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:20 | 6861881 RonArgent
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Isn't it kind of foolish to believe Erdogan is calling the shots?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:32 | 6861409 ThanksChump
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Yawn. This happens whenever two ships move in different directions in a channel.

 

That said, I'm pretty sure some guy on the Russian bridge mooned that sub. Heh heh.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:33 | 6861410 clawsthatscratch
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they are not trailing the ship, the headings are about 180 apart and this is their home waters so they can be there all the want. They would not be surfaced if they were doing anything. 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:49 | 6861497 cheech_wizard
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Transiting through straights by subs is usually done on the surface... 

Standard Disclaimer: It gives your allies time to drop sonar buoys so they can get a good sound signature of your sub. (True Story!)

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:33 | 6861412 Dr. Engali
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Can't we all just get along in the NWO?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:37 | 6861436 Chupacabra-322
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Fuck No. Execute them all!!!

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:52 | 6861526 kralizec
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Sounds like a Mexican firing squad.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:33 | 6861413 clawsthatscratch
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they are not trailing the ship, the headings are about 180 apart and this is their home waters so they can be there all the want. They would not be surfaced if they were doing anything. 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:33 | 6861417 Reichstag Fire Dept.
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Since when has "hitting" Putin ever worked out well for the hitter? I would recomend Erdogan NOT close the straights.

Nevertheless, you know he will close the straights at some point...when he thinks he can really exercise some kind of control or win some kind of concession. This will be the point when he severely underestimates Putin's Russia.

It's a lot harder to make heat and cook food without Nat. Gas than it will be for Putin to re open the straights. Erdogan will lose part of his country when Putin installs a Russian "Canal Zone" through the straights.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:49 | 6861493 Anunnaki
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Obama will make the call to close the straits when the time comes

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:54 | 6861535 kralizec
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That will be about as likely as Obama not spreading his cheeks when Reggie is standing behind him in the john...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:27 | 6861903 frankly scarlet
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it is against international law and considered an act of war for any nation to close these straits....not that the law matters very much in this case as far as Erdogan and his western backers care.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:34 | 6861425 JustObserving
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Insane MF Erdogan is desperately trying to ignite a war to please his masters in Washington.  How big is the NSA file on Erdogan and his son, Bilal?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:50 | 6861503 will ling
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no doubt he is being used as stalkin' horse; empire desperately wants/needs war.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:36 | 6861698 Boubou
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War is all good for for them. They satisfy their pent up urge to dominate and destroy, and above all a shitload of tax payer money tranfers itself to suppliers of military goods of all kinds.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:08 | 6861597 tsuki
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F the NSA file.  I want to see the RF file. 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:36 | 6861432 Cautiously Pess...
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I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation. War is hell.

William Tecumseh Sherman

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:57 | 6861548 Tejano
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Sherman - another Yankee war criminal. A liar, too.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:09 | 6861598 GhostOfDiogenes
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A new yorker.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:04 | 6861572 Buster Cherry
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I like Sherman's quotes.

I think the one you cite concludes.with: " there is no reforming it. The more terrible we make it for.the enemy, the shorter.it will be..

But I may be wrong.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:41 | 6861434 ShorTed
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"Russian Navy Ship Runs into Turkish Sub"  Huh, looks like they quietly motored past one another,

Easy on the hyperbole guys.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:56 | 6861544 kralizec
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Hey! There is a meme to sell here!  Get with the program!

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:02 | 6861561 ShorTed
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Agreed, but down't we get enough of that shit from the rest of the web?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:26 | 6861660 EINSILVERGUY
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I thought the same thing then I realized they were using a sleight of hand word magic.

Runs into as in " I ran into a old girlfriend at the gym"

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:35 | 6861694 Mr. Cynic
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Avoid that scenario at all costs.  =P

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:37 | 6861435 bombdog
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"draw your own conclusions"

Two ships just passed one another in a narrow channel. I lost ten minutes of my life watching this and reading some FUD.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:53 | 6861528 Oldballplayer
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And reading your post saved ten minutes of mine.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:38 | 6861442 blown income
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I don't know about the rest if Fight Club

 

If WW3 is on then hit the red buttons 

 

All the shit going on ...just do it

 

I am not prepared for the rest of what time I have hearing the word "terror" at every fucking place I am at.

 

They won ok...just let my daughter be in my arms when it happens all I ask..

 

No amount of prepping ,bug out etc will save anyone...

 

We're all toast whether we like it or not as the assholes with the keys have fucked up the lock and only matter of time before the doors are open........

 

Harsh yeah....not amount of postING will save anyone

 

God forgive me of MY sins and accept me with my daughter. ...

 

Peace....it's just a word.... 

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:17 | 6861868 SgtShaftoe
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You're thinking about war in the old (wrong) paradigm.  War is increasingly moving asymetric and towards self-organized systems.  Go check out John Robb's work.  He has a site called global guerillas.  If you want to know what WWIII will look like, look around.  It's going on right now. You have proxy wars with a bunch of independent actors tossed in and voila.  Intensity may very well increase a whole bunch and you may very well see tanks rolling in the streets as a common occurence in western countries.  However, top-down structures of government and military control will not be able to keep up, kinda like the fall of Rome. 

Think supply chain disruption, market meddling, currency collapses, fully autonomous drones (including home built types), power disruptions, "terrorism" (of the false flag and true persuasion) executions of prominent business and government people etc, etc.  Nuclear exchange is certainly possible but not the most likely scenario. 

If you live well outside of a city center have your own water, heat, grow your own food and can make a bit of power you should be pretty ok. The biggest thing people can do for themselves at this point is set up systems to grow enough healthy, organic and biodynamic food to sustain your family and neigbors.  Those people, on the whole, should do pretty well.   

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:41 | 6861451 Consuelo
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None of Turkey's strategic moves are done without State Department approval.   No different than Yats or Porko.

 

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:43 | 6861459 Dre4dwolf
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The submarine looks small impotent and ancient.

ONE Old Russian sub from the 80s could obliterate that sub + the entire Turkish state in an afternoon.

 

Turkey is like bringing a wet noodle to an ICBM fight.

Doesn't make a whole lot of sense for them to be causing a fuss from my perspective.

 

Turkey should just sit down and STFU because they are clowns and everyone knows they are clowns.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:45 | 6862335 J Jason Djfmam
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One could say that sub looks downright flaccid.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:45 | 6861463 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Actually closing the straitswould be a direct act of war and rather than fuck around on the lake, ankara may well get a volley.

Really.

This us/nato/israeli warmongering reign of terror gas to have an end.

If it takes a few tactical nukes on riyadh and tel aviv before the end - well, that's because the us is run by people who want a world war but imagine it wont get too out of hand.

It will get out of hand.

Worth noting that the average russian and turk have zero interest in a war.

As always a handful of cunts are threatening all of us.

Time for some coups and regime change in the "West" since the people running it have lost all legitimacy in their drive to create a unipolar world {and Greater Israel}
--

Kiev accused of redeploying tanks, multiple rocket systems to line of contact
http://tass.ru/en/world/840658

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:31 | 6861678 Boubou
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The average anyone anywhere does not want war. They are playing games but they need our blood.

Herman Göring 18 Apr 1946

"Of course the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece?

 Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany.

 That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:37 | 6861947 Herd Redirectio...
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And tell the women the men who don't join the war are cowards, and not to be fucked.  Fuck them, by not fucking them, so to speak.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:43 | 6861466 jakesdad
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definitely NOT making predictions & while I think (certainly HOPE) it's unlikely how ironic would it be if after reagan, hw & w ww3 actually broke out under our 1st aa potus who got a nobel peace prize 10 min into office merely for not being his predecessor (well, that & his melanin surplus)?!?

 

& people say history doesn't have a sense of humor!

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:44 | 6861469 Argenta
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The words "Turkish" and "Submarine" should never be used in the same sentence.

-Argenta

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:52 | 6861522 patrickhenry61
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As we sail the ocean blue/ We just have nothing else to do/ In our sights is a russian ship/ We can ram it and make it flip/ We all live n a Tooor-kish submarine/ A Toor-kish submarine/ A Tooor-kish submarine.  

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:59 | 6861553 Argenta
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Nooooooo....lol

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:44 | 6861471 kevinearick
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Sally Brown Economics

Government is just a black hole employed as a ground on a fulcrum. 95% of adults are consumed by the past, waiting for History as they see it to repeat, to take advantage, so independent-thinking young people drive all the change, which is why the communists, who fear kids accordingly, spoil them, to make them dependent. As I said from the beginning, I'm just telling you why lots of people are going to get themselves killed.

There are still many of us around with fathers and grandfathers who worked for Carnegie, Rockefeller and JPM, and helped Tesla kick their ass. Roosevelt was a JPM contemporary priss who simply bolted up JPM's monopoly system to the middle class actuarial ponzi. And the process has been globalized under every president since.

One day, we are out in the school yard lighting off rockets, and the next, kids are competing to see who has the most expensive tennis shoes made in China. Now that the majority has triggered demographic collapse globally, with Family Law, the global economy has devolved all the way back to the JPM/Edison partnership. FANG is simply the latest and greatest herd control mechanism.

Stocks are super junk bonds, renamed, and all bonds are war bonds, because war is the only possible outcome of groupthink, left to its own devices. Bringing CPS/CSS in front of a Grand Jury, the latest iteration of the sh-show, is way too little, way too late. If you are going to waste your time teaching critters, teach their DNA.

GDP – public, private or non-profit, makes no difference to labor. You kill the hydra by turning it on itself. The mercenaries in the Middle East are just Pinkerton, Roosevelt with a Tiffany dress.

The birth canal is the exit, and the communists short it every time. You don't have to do anything, but be about your business. Don't poke a lion with a big stick expecting a happy outcome; Grace is anything but defenseless.

The communists piss away their resources every time, trying to prove that black is white. “How about tens and twenties? All I want is what I have coming to me. All I want is my fair share.” Crybullies; that's the best one yet.

Printing real estate inflation, assigning the debt to renters, and employing a tax system to ensure the positive feedback isn't exactly rocket science. Can't blame Trump for trying to protect his skin in the game. But it's just a game, of misdirection.

War is coming.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:44 | 6861474 3rdWorldTrillionaire
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I just watched that entire video expecting the ship to "run in to" the sub (i.e. collide)... what a disappointment. Change the story title!

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:45 | 6861478 patrickhenry61
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From reports I've read from Tooor-kia, the people MORE pissed off at the Sultan of Swing Edrogan are the Tooorks themselves. They don't want war with anyone, let alone Russia. He rigged up this past elections and from accounts wants to make the Hagia Sophia back into a grand mosque again. I wouldn't put it pass him to invade Syria and give the finger to Putin, stating, "What are you going to do now?" Not much Russia can do then.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:04 | 6861573 Jack Burton
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You make good points. The ruler of Turkey does not enjoy universal support, in fact, he was forced to rig elections to stay in power. So he has limits to how far he can gin up nationalism to support himself in his ISIS gambit in Syria.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:47 | 6861488 besnook
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way off topic but that transport has a beautiful line, a beautiful design for any ship.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:02 | 6861565 sandhillexit
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The ships going through the straits are enormous, like mythic creatures actually.  They dominate the passage, one of the most beautiful urban waterways.  There are remnants of Byzantine forts all along the Bosporus, reminding that the boats through there were not always so peacefully preoccupied.  And the Turks fly really large flags everywhere, like a car dealership in the US.  They want everyone to know that all this belongs to them.  THEY didn't build any of it, but it belongs to them.  

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:49 | 6861494 pine_marten
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Like a couple fools fighting in a canoe.  The world is too crowded now for this kind of nonsense.  They may spoil everything. .........

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:49 | 6861499 aliki
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CNBC will flash this as "breaking news" before the close on friday

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:50 | 6861506 Apocalicious
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Much ado about nothing here...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:50 | 6861509 kerfuffled
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Hype

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 13:54 | 6861534 besnook
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what is interesting is putin does not seem overly concerned with ankara but he is done playing games with anyone. he really doesn't have to do much since the west is self destructing all on its own especially with the usa people worried about how they would address a marriage between gay transgenders who wave the confederate flag while holding guns pointed at muslims.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:22 | 6861891 ThisIsBob
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Most Americans can understand those issues, but don't have a clue about the justification for seemingly forever unsuccessfully bopping around sand dunes killing and being killed.  Me neither.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:05 | 6861554 Jack Burton
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"closing the Bosphorus Strait might be a better idea than attempting to do without Russian gas."

There are binding treaties concerning the Bosphorus, these have been changed over the centuries as powers come and go. But simply put, Turkey closes this seaway, and you are on the very edge of what world wars are made of. We are into an event that has always triggered war in the past. Closing it now is just insane.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:03 | 6861566 thethirdcoast
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OP failed to deliver.

 

I am disappoint.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:05 | 6861567 withglee
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"There are no problems with Russian ships passing through the straits, although it is quite normal that some vessels are waiting due to the straits' workload or natural disasters, hampering navigation," the source told RIA Novosti on Tuesday.

What about this from two days ago?

TURKEY BLOCKADING RUSSIA FROM DARDANELLES; BLACK SEA FLEET COMPLETELY CUT OFF

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/587

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:11 | 6861603 Johnny Horscaulk
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A gentle reminder:

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/turkey-israel-directly-supporting...

russia is the good guy here.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:14 | 6861613 voxpopuli
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pretty easy : use simply http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/ with data "Istanbul", and TOPOL SS-25 ...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:15 | 6861617 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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Any news on explosion in Turkish subway?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:40 | 6861961 Herd Redirectio...
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By way of deception, yo.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:19 | 6861623 Johnny Horscaulk
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http://m.sputniknews.com/world/20151201/1031038783/russia-turkey-ships-s...

So NATO really really wants to invade syria and topple assad thus ensuring freedom and equality for all syrians and foreign takfiri "migrants" and its not about pipelines or Israel at all.

Putin is bad, m'kay?

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/zionisms_master_plan.htm

https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2015/11/02/greater-kurdistan-taking-sha...

Well off to the darker corners if the web...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:28 | 6862244 petroglyph
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Great links Horse, including one at the bottom of your first link. Should be required reading in school.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:38 | 6861627 Lostinfortwalton
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Um, there was no collision here, the Turkish sub and Russian ship passed safely with plenty of room. The ship did seem to be going a little fast for crowded waters, though.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:49 | 6861734 ebear
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Strong currents through there - up to 8 knots in some parts. If transiting with the current you gotta boot it to stay on course.

http://www.bosphorusstrait.com

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:27 | 6861663 Albertarocks
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A picture says a thousand words.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVKPsqNUAAAiSpL.jpg

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:34 | 6861689 exartizo
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Conclusion:

 

Both sides are downplaying escalating tensions.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:34 | 6861690 exartizo
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Conclusion:

 

Both sides are downplaying escalating tensions.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:43 | 6861728 sgorem
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conclusion #2: a nuke, or two on ankara and stocks are bound to surge! .........or buy the dip......

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:50 | 6861755 Crocodile
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Hey Putin; "Let's go get a Turkey Sub; hold the tomatoes".  Looked like a toy sub.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 14:53 | 6861761 Ar-Pharazôn
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lol 2 turkish subs in the area? i bet russian are laughing on it... they have for sure more than  2 subs in the mediterranean

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:00 | 6861781 HenryHall
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Closing the Bosporus had better be a joke. Otherwise it is the start of World War Three.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:02 | 6861793 David Wooten
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"...closing the Bosphorus Strait..."

Turkey will not close the Bosphorus because it would violate international law and Russia could easily destroy the bridges  that cross the Bosphorus linking Turkey with Europe and with its small Western part that many Greeks believe belongs to them.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:18 | 6861867 Able Ape
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What?..."Run's into" means slicing that sub in half and sending it blub, blub, blub.....In my playbook, anyways...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:17 | 6861870 Questan1913
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 Just an honest error...and

Russian air force to expand to 100 fighters located at two airfields in Syria:

 

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/11/100-russian-jet-fighters-new-brigad...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:17 | 6861871 fightapathy
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2015 is oh so 1877...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:39 | 6861956 Praeda2
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Turkish sub? The smell inside must be unbearable.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:47 | 6862349 J Jason Djfmam
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Full of Turkish seamen.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:57 | 6862064 Buster Cherry
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"A tense moment occurred when the 133-meter ship, the Yauda, arrived at the Dardanelles from the Aegean Sea at around 10 a.m. on Nov. 30. and encountered a Turkish submarine across the shores of Canakkale's Eceabat."

 

Yeah, about as tense as I get when I see those fucking musloid women buried under their Islamo-costumes at the Wal-Mart....

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 03:58 | 6862068 bid the soldier...
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The Bosphorus will not be closed to Russian maritime traffic.

Everyone knows that would be an act of war and with the S-400s in Syria and popping up around the world, Washington is not ready for the beginnings of WWIII.  At least not YET.

The immediate results of the closing of the straits will be the Russian vessel ramming the Turkish ship blocking its passage and then Turkish fire from both sides of the strait.  The Russian response from the air would be unchallenged. 

Followed by some longer range Iskander into Incirlik.

Needless to say, Washington is not quite ready for WWIII.  If you can hold on for a couple more weeks or months, Big Ole Ash will be happy to oblige.

Unless there is some truth to "Krasukha-4 and "Krasukha-2 in which case Washington reserves the right to advise and extend its bullshit.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:18 | 6862195 7 of 15
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That was routine, not tense.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:27 | 6862240 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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BTW, the first video (denizhaber.tv/v/aDlBHZH0J0b) is courtesy of Turkish denizhaber.tv, they broke the "news" about "runs into russian ship", despite the fact that this video (denizhaber.tv/v/2UVqiVd7xSa) shows the sub passing another cargo ship, yet no one made a fuss about it.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:55 | 6862402 LoveTruth
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Here is the proof Erdogan the number one Turkish Terrorist buying robbed Syrian OIL from his foot soldiers ISIS. As usual Turks trying to sit, not on one or two chairs, but as many as they can get away with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yK_XgtQ4Vk

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:59 | 6862430 roadhazard
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I'd like my 2:12 back please.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:05 | 6862465 giggler321
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Nothing to see here - move on.  No really there was nothing to see man

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:23 | 6862571 Mr.BlingBling
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I watched that whole clip and concluded that ZH doesn't know the meaning of 'Runs Into' (i.e. it didn't hit the fuckin' sub).

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 00:36 | 6864275 IcarusOnFire
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Disappointed in you Zero Hedge.  If I wanted to get the national enquirer cut on the story I would have bought the damn thing at the local grocery store. 'Ran into' my ass.....did you get the number of clicks you were after?

Icarus

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 00:44 | 6864293 onmail1
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maybe these are escorting the ships of erDOGan's son Bilal

carrying blood err illegal oil from Syria

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