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Greeks Told To Declare Cash "Under The Mattress", Jewelry And Precious Stones
When earlier today we read a report in the Greek Enikonomia, according to which Greek taxpayers would be forced to declare all cash "under the mattress" (including inside) or boxes that contain more than 15,000 euros as well as jewelry and precious stones (including gold) worth over 30,000 euros, starting in 2016, we assumed this has to be some early April fools joke or a mistake.
After all, this would be merely the first step toward full-blown asset confiscation, conducted so many times by insolvent governments throughout history, once the government cracks down on those who made a "mistake" in their asset declaration form or simply refuse to fill such a declaration, thereby making all their assets eligible for government confiscation.
It was not a joke.
Here is the take of Keep Talking Greece, whose stunned response mirrors ours.
Cash "under the mattress" totaling more than 15,000 euro, jewelry and other valuable items such as diamonds and gemstones, should be declared to electronic system of tax authorities, Taxisnet, as of 1 January 2016. Next to properties and vehicles and shares, now the taxpayers will also have to declare their deposits. And not only that. They will have to fill if they rent bank lockers and if yes, also the name of the bank and the branch, even if abroad.
A joint ministerial decision issued by the Ministries of Justice and Finance indicates that taxpayers in Greece should add all their valuables into a new category of the tax declaration, the “Assets declaration.”
Specifically, the decision provides that:
“Assets declarations” are submitted electronically and mandatory via Taxisnet.
Starting date for the submission is 1.1.2016
Declared must be cash money if more than 15,000 euro and precious items if their total value exceeds 30,000 euro. These amounts apply cumulatively per household (husband, wife, underage children).
To facilitate the completion of the declaration, data from the income statements (E1 and E9) will be drawn automatically.
Note that this Assets declaration process will initially apply to lawmakers, journalists, public servants etc and is the rehearsal for the creation of the electronic property & assets register that will be extended to all taxpayers.
The new assets declaration form has a total of 56 pages.
The decision has been taken “in the context of support and development of the economy,” the ministers state.
Some thoughts
First of all, the ministerial decision will certainly support and help to growth the noble profession of accountants.
How can a bride know the value of the jewelry her parents-in-law gave as a wedding gift?
If the retail price of X valuable item was 10,000 euro in 2005, what is the value today?
And what will happen if one will not declare his assets? The tax authorities will raid the home and search under the mattress to find grandma’s ring?
Are you kidding me, Greek Syriza state?
PS we should note that this assets declaration was in plan before SYRIZA came into power. Not sure about what minister promoted this, I vaguely reckon it was form New Democracy. Or most likely it was a Troika’s idea in order to grab the so-called ‘black money’ that starts with 15,001 euro in cash and diamonds worth 30,001 euro.
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The bitch Merkel has gone silent since she invited the entire Muslim world to come to Germany "We will take them all" And to echo that, the Swedish PM was asked if Sweden had any potential upper limit to migrants, to which he said "No, of course not, there is no limit to migration to Sweden, that is off the table".
Merkel will do whatever the Washington master tells her, but she is doing it now behind closed doors.
I'd like to meet the Greek who actually complied. Im sad to report knowing several Americans who would do so.
Miffed
I'd like to meet the Greek who actually complied.
I looked....found this guy instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvl9N9GdraQ
My kind of guy! Thanks for the laugh. It did answer my question " Is this a nude beach?" to a New Zealand woman. " it is when the Germans visit."
Miffed;-)
Miffed!!! Thought you were gone! Good to see you
Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated ;-)
At present, my life is, thankfully, stable and I am appreciating every second. It is nice to be back.
Miffed;-)
I will echo that. Great to see you posting MM. Visit more often.
I'm good, I don't see "lost in a terrible boating accident" anywhere. Problem is I'm running out of boats.
I believe that the reply fuck you would be in order for the question of how you are saving your money.
1) How will they be able to find out who has what? Are troopers gonna storm your house?
2)What about heir looms
3) Goverment overtrown in 3... 2... 1...
In the mean time Varoufakis is traveling the world asking up to 30.000 euros for a speach lecture haha
I wonder what exceptions will be in place for 'old money.'
If they can take your assets they can take your life. First step in taking your assets is knowing what you have.
I have no God, can I still keep my shit then?...half my shit??
Yes, until you die, because you can't take it with you.
What about my DOG?
All you really need is a good blaster by your side, kid
Viking funeral for me when the time is up...if I can find a boat that is, have lost a lot reasently
I know a *lot* about boats ... ask me about finding what you are looking for.
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We are Gods, deal with it.
Precursor to our 4th Amendment which is currently under attack, especially by the old witch.
Is it still true that Russia and China are anti-FATCA countries ?
Great places to hide money from rapacious tax authorities. Everyone is doing it.
What does "anti-FATCA" mean? In Russia, you must declare your foreign property and foreign bank accounts, for example. Ask me what do you want to know about Russia.
If a Greek (say) had monies in a Russian bank account - would Russia share that information with Greece ?
Ask me what do you want to know about Russia.
Where the miniature giraffes at? I know they exist...I saw one on TEEVEE.
Great avatar!
Hi ZeBo,
I think he is referring to the notorious US IRS program that forces other countries to cough up data about transactions done in US dollars even though they are beyond US jurisdiction. As with the guy from the Netherlands above, it's always interesting to find out how other countries manage their affairs.
Merry Christmas, which comes sooner there than here, and on Earth, Peace, Goodwill towards men.
Actually there is a lot of reciprocity built into FATCA.
For sure.
They're all in it together and its understood among the thieves cartels known as modern governments that they have to blame unpopular things on each other rather than taking the hit themselves in order to keep the scam running.
So they all shout about the evil USA and then quietly submit their own requests back to us. Same with intelligence agencies doing a circular spy ring in order to get around internal laws against spying on their own citizens but not against looking at data received from a foreign source about their own citizens.
Ooops, got that backwards about Christmas. See you in January.
Is it easy for the public to buy gold in Russia? I have seen chervontz coins that were brought over from Russia. Do dealers offer them and other gold coins in most big cities? How easy is it to trade coins for fiat there? Reporting requirements on dealers?
Art? Stamps? Collectable car?
coming to Ameridumb...
right after real negative interest rates arrive...
gonna be blood.
Could the Greek government have made any clearer statement that it is the mortal enemy of the Greek people?
Dear Greeks,
Spare yourself alot of hassle and just hand over all your stuff - everything - to the govt. You don't need it - they'll take good care of you. They promise.
Spare everyone a hassle & just DHL-it to Rothschild's Blvd in Tel Aviv.
And the Failure to comply will result in... WHAT? House-to-house searches?
Yeah, like they got the resources to do that. Given that Greek women are already doing time-share rental of their bodies, will Greek men be next -- for the Gay/Merry/Happy invaders from Brussels, London or Bang Francisco? Will their kids be sold for body parts, via the Albanian Mafia/Gov next door?
Or will they hire the Refugee thugs to collect taxes, and hope they will pass some of them to the Greek government? How do you say DOA in Greek?
Syriza
Calm down, everyone.
This is just a formality that is necessary to the institution of our new Greek National Theft Insurance Program. We, the government, solemnly guarantee to indemnify you free of charge for any losses suffered in the event of fire, theft, flood, earthquake, or any other catastrophic event that might cause you to lose your life savings.
In order to guard against misuse of this valuable new AND ABSOLUTELY FREE government service, it only makes sense that your coverable assets are pre-declared in a 100% safe database that has all sorts of the most modern safeguards against unauthorized access.
It's just like any other form of private insurance that requires you to declare what items are to be covered but, and I'll say this again, our new service is ABSOLUTELY FREE.
Oh, and just slightly mandatory in order to make the actuarial calculations work out properly.
Thank you, and remember, your government only wants what is best for you.
//s//
Julia
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Capped sections of 8" sewer pipe.
No one messes with a discovered sewer pipe, they last millions of years, and they are everywhere.
Small pickle jars completely wrapped in black electrical tape. Cheap and effective. Excellent for gold, cash and jewellery items. A little small for handguns and/or ammo.
Yeah, when they're asking about assets, purchased with income that presumably has already been taxed... Fuck that.
My state has a personal property tax which is bullshit enough, but it still only applies to titled assets. Anything else is unenforcable unless they go full gestapo and start sending in teams to search and inventory.
These are steps a dying and soon-to-be-dead government makes. Compliance rate will round to 0% and you get the electorate seriously pissed off when wifey is supposed to tell the gov't what her wedding ring is worth.
Relax, they don't expect anyone to actually comply. However . . .
When they do stumble upon someone's undeclared stash they will confiscate it all and charge the person with tax evasion. It's similar to the Marijuana Tax Stamp farce here in the U.S. Nobody expects the drug lords to buy the stupid stamps, but when they fail to do so and get raided - Wham! Federal tax evasion charges!
Al Capone beat every charge they threw at him until they nailed him for Federal income tax evasion. Off to Alcatraz for Big Al.
the Greeks should require all of the refugees passing through their country to bring guns from the war zone as payment for their movement beyond Greece to infest europe. at least the fucks would be armed when the taxman comes. (btw, page 13 of the new tax statement, "how many gold teeth are in your head"?
Tell all the wealthy to do it first!
Anyone with that much cash will surely be able to buy additional boxes, so as to ensure that 'no box will contain more than 30,000 in gold'!
And then they'll get them for a "structured" transaction.
Motto of the NWO: Obedience to the law is no excuse.
Lake George
Lake Champlain
Indian Lake
Quonsett Lake
Schroon Lake
Pharoh Lake
Saratoga Lake
Raquette Lake
no mention of bitcoin??
Even if the government knew you had 100000000000$ worth of bitcoin they would have to waterboard you for the key to spend it.
No, they'd round up your friends and family and start shooting them in front of you.
Once you have told them everything that you know, and start giving them lies to spare your surviving friends and family, they'll shoot the rest of them. THAT is when your waterboarding would begin, cuz that's just for fun.
That's how it's done. Whether you hide your stuff in a lake, a crypto vault, geocaches, whatever.
What the hell makes you think that would stop them?
https://xkcd.com/538/
Which is why you need plausble deniability.
2->3 safes/safe places. The first is your obvious one with bugger all in it. The second is the sacrificial one which has enough in it to persuade them they got it. The third is the jackpot.
Or just a brainwallet and not giving any hint to anyone about its existence. You could use a TAILS disc, which is a generic privacy-oriented operating system that happens to come bundled with Electrum Bitcoin client ready to use. It leaves no digital trace if used properly.
Declare? People find out you got gold, bad things can happen: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/01/person-of-...
And as 22 million citizens with US Gubmint security clearances can attest, the Gubmint can be 'hacked' by unknown parties and lose 100% of your very personal data... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/07/09/hack-of-se...
And when the gubmint loses all your data into the vast unknown, with unknowable future consequences, the gubmint can be held accountable, right? Wrong.
Fuck up, lose everyone's info? Yes We Can.
Be held accountable, sued, grilled, fired, etc. No We Can't.
Greeks beware.
Good thing I have 5 mattresses. Might need to buy a few more day beds however.
When will the torches and pitchforks come out?? Seriously! How much will people take and do NOTHING?!
Are you talking about Greece or the USA? Or all countries in general? Because seriously, this is theft by the bankers on a global level. There is no valid reason these satanic bastards even deserve to live on the same planet as human beings.
"When will the torches and pitchforks come out??"
Sometime after they wake up from the hangover after the soccer match after the holiday after the siesta after the Kim Kardashian reality show premiere.
Yeah, sometime after THEN, they'll finally wake up (& wonder, "what the hell is a pitchfork?")
That, or when they can no longer afford the cable or to attend the soccer match.
The second that martial law is declared.
Do you need to know when Christmas is, too?
Who is dumb enough to tell anyone about a stack of cash they have? 0o
Thats like a whole other level of stupid.
All precursors.
They laughed at those dumb old Americans having their assets forfeited to the cops at traffic stops and smugly told each other that such things cannot happen here in my country.
Guess who just joined the party.
You underestimated the levels of stupid.
They are, for all purposes, infinite.
Gotta pay the Christmas bonuses.
Of course they have to pay? What would they do without the government??? Live.
This is outrageous. This is not as bad as governments can get...but close.
"Note that this Assets declaration process will initially apply to lawmakers, journalists, public servants etc and is the rehearsal for the creation of the electronic property & assets register that will be extended to all taxpayers."
That may be true but at this point it appears to be intended to catch the large number of fraudsters in .gov and public service etc who have skimmed billions from public funds and elsewhere thru kickbacks and the rest of it.
It's difficult to see how such a scheme could be made to work across the whole population.
You have a valid point there, but I suggest that it is merely a confidence-building measure to pave the way for future extensions.
They, the government, have no intention of investigating their own violations of the law but will have a handy stick to beat anybody they want to take a whack at.
That's my primary objection to income taxes of any sort, or most laws in general. Most of these things are never enforced in a widespread way. But they are on the books if they need them in a specific case.
The asset forfeiture cases in the United States were designed to trip up drug dealers carrying lots of cash-- but slowly they turn onto other targets until it is no longer a crime fighting tool but rather a revenue collection one.
I agree that it may be extended to all citizens but the question of how to enforce it remains.
I would never declare any of my assets if they were able to be hidden. I'd guess that Greeks are no different. To apply it to everybody would require extraordinary levels of searches and investigations which people would not tolerate.
That's what makes me think it is only for a small group of people.
What worries me is the universality of your sentiment (and mine). Nobody is going to declare their assets-- which makes everyone a criminal in the eyes of the "law". Who they choose to persecute thus become a matter of whim rather than strict universal application and leaves nobody thus accused with any defense whatsoever.
My view is that it totally inverts the proper relationship between individual and their supposed "servants". It is no business of my maid or butler what I have in my sock drawers. It's becoming a worldwide phenomenon that is going to put humanity back into the Age of Kings, Dukes, and Nobles, call them by whatever new term may be fashionable at the time.
Even if I had the proper pedigree to land in one of the top slots, I would still oppose this re-enslavement of humanity.
Very good points. And reading between the lines of your comments is that any government can use & abuse the law by hounding anybody who becomes a nuisance or dissents from government policy.
It quickly becomes a "control file" process to keep people in check.
A classic totalitarian control mechanism.
I hope the Greek people reject it en masse.
That makes two of us.
And then the sentiment needs to cover the world in all its glory.
"...which makes everyone a criminal in the eyes of the "law". Who they choose to persecute thus become a matter of whim rather than strict universal application and leaves nobody thus accused with any defense whatsoever."
Yes, If the speed limit is 55 but ALL traffic is traveling 70, A cop can pull over ANYONE without probable cause... THAT IS THE INTENT...
"'Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?' said Dr. Ferris. 'We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against - then you'll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it.
There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now, that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.'"
Ayn Rand ('Atlas Shrugged' 1957)
Very well put.
Plus you remind me that I may not have any Ayn Rand hidden away in the library any more. Maybe on one of the ebook collections. Have to check that. Some sentiments need to be preserved for posterity, no matter what the cost.
And may you never become easy to deal with.
Thanks TBel. I thought that quote fit in with what you were saying.
I DO believe that is the end result.
Think about the 55mph thing. Exactly like I said. If EVERYONE is breaking the the law, You can pull over EVERYONE without having to have probable cause..
That's exactly what I was complimenting you on. It's a very succinct explanation that anybody can relate to. Ayn Rand was nice to read as well.
Don't like Sammy Hagar's politics in general, but he did do the country one big favor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvV3nn_de2k
Indeed. It echos my earlier point of this being used as a control mechanism to keep people in check.
We shouldn't ignore that this is not new. It's often said today that the person who gets the No.1 job is not the cleanest or best suited person, it's the person who others have dirt on. He is controllable.
Data mining. Once their database is built, if you don't join it you CANNOT transact with anyone else who has joined it (send your grievances to Paccioli). Once you are flagged for not registering the offset in their database, then the assessor or judge can ass rape you for whatever amount he pleases because there will be at least 50 different technical infractions of law or regulation and you will pay whatever you can to avoid consecutive sentencing for the rest of your life.
Curse the day when data storage got cheap.
Oh there's no problem in joining it.
It's a matter of what assets you declare (!!)
I would simply not declare assets that could be hidden or put out of reach.
"Once their database is built, if you don't join it you CANNOT transact with anyone else who has joined it ... "
That is the essence of the Mark of the Beast, right there.
Survey says.... YES.
Greece simply needs to default. There is no way to pay all their obligations, even if they take every last dime of what people own. When the gov. takes everything, whats the point of working and being productive? Thats why the call girls can't charge more than a few dollars for services. The productive economy has ceased operating. The gov. can't legislate production, it needs to get out of the way and quit stealing private property.
Fill in the blank... _______________ <USA, France, Egypt, Syria, Mexico, Brazil, Spain, Italy, Portugal, et all> simply needs to default. There is no way to pay all their obligations, even if they take every last dime of what people own.
Nothing "simple" about directly defying the global bankers. Ask JFK.
What I want to know is where are the GREEK warriors of old?.
Where are they men, did the young ones leave?.
( Knock knock knock ) do you have anything to declare ?
Deez Nuts on your chin...
Greeks, that includes the money you put up your ass.
Appearances are everything.
Look poor, but prepare yourself for endless mocking by all of your overleveraged, over medicated, Black Friday obsessed moron neighbors.
Rumbling around in a 95 blazer...
Now is not the time for any wealth display.
and this comes from the people that invented ANARKHOS!
AN-ARCHOS... AN means WITHOUT and ARCHOS means STRUCTURE. (What do architects do?)
It is spelled alpha, nu, alpha, rho, CHI, omicron, sigma.
There is no kappa, equivalent to the English letter k. Furthermore there is no apostrophe which denotes the sound of H.
CHI is a Hard " Ch" as in Christ.
An anarchos Government is a Government without structure.
Greeks have always stashed their goodies away from professional parasites, aka government nosy buggers.
They have done this because they knew said nosy buggers would steal it all.
So, TO ALL GOVERNMENT NOSY BUGGERS-- FUCK OFF.
Turdollars: the more you eat, the more you shit yourself richer.
What's not to love?
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Coming to a country where you are living, sooner or later.
We're just the late train.
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V-V
This article is very poor. The most important part of the new law is that non·declaration can result in forfeiture.
Declaration will eventually lead to confiscation anyway. Time for the Greeks to man up and declare open season on banksters.
AND their Government...
Not just the Government , but ALL POLITICIANS, Past and Present.
The phone rings at the local KGB headquarters:
"Hello?"
"Hello, is this KGB?"
"Da."
"I'm calling to report my neighbor, Hershel Yankovitz is an enemy of the State. He is hiding undeclared diamonds in his firewood."
"This will be noted."
The next day, the KGB sends their hoodlums to Hershel's tiny house. Out back, in the shed, they violently break every piece of firewood in their search for contraband. They find nothing. Angry and cursing, they leave.
Ten minutes later, the phone rings at Hershel's house.
"Hello, Hersh, did the KGB show up?"
"They just left."
"Did they chop up your firewood?"
"They certainly did."
"Good. Now it's your turn to call. My vegetable patch needs plowing."
This joke makes a good point actually. I hope the old timers from the USSR who became adept at successful living under a police state wrote down some of their techniques. It's all becoming relevant again and will become increasingly so in the near future.
Read When Money Dies. Good stuff for inflation.
In Europe, and especially Venice, I've noticed deliberately managed decay outside of most all buildings. The insides were lovely. I assumed it was due to taxation.
My Grecian friends, play this the way they would quite happily play you.
Any of these 'Public Servants' come knocking, be more than aware you were 'In Fear Of Your Life', just like they would use, and then hack the cunts to death, capture the cunts and use that blunt tattie peeler you dont know how to sharpen on them, rig up a home made, mains powered 'Taser' and burn the cunts to a crispy finish. You could even if you have one, catch the parasitical cunts and take them down the basement and see just how long you can keep them alive.
Lets play a game my friends, they know its coming, its just a question of time.
;-)
Don't forget the salt & lemon juice. ;)
Been awhile ITM96.
All the best Willy mate, never far away.
If I dont see you post before, have a smashing christmas my friend, same to all of those close to you and yours.
96
We aint all bad is we?
You two seem pretty Greek. Nothing wrong with that.
What's your take on this?
Whats the matter Chump?
You dont like giving blokes a cuddle?
Your loss mate, there are some sound folk post here, and a cuddle always makes Mixy feel better, so here, have a kiss
xxx
;-)
Thanks Buddy C - good tip :D
Nice to see you posting ITM96, How you been?
ps
(walked away from keyboard, meanwhile willy replied...)
Happy Holidays mates
Not bad Samsara mate, little bit up and down regarding work thanks to the weather, other than that cant complain really.
Hope everything is alrite with you and yours my friend, same as I told Willy, if I dont see you post before christmas, nothing but the very best for you and all of yours for the festive season, and the coming year.
Could be worse..
;-) 96
Yeh, right. I will get you a full accounting tomorrow!
@ The Ram https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZnOZmqPFHE
Asset confiscation is coming to America sooner than you think.
hairball
Yes, this is just a test lab for worldwide rollout
The tactic described in the article won't work here. We love fireworks too much. No, it will be more insidious.
"Fill this out so we can expedite restoring your heat and food-ration card."
That guy will get 100 declarations filled out and signed before someone cuts his throat with a plastic spork. 100:1 is an acceptable return.
what country are you from? Confiscation been going on for decades
Thirty years ago, the Department of Justice created a civil asset forfeiture program known as “Equitable Sharing.” Though originally created for the purpose of separating drug dealers from their ill-gotten assets and cash, since 2001 Equitable Sharing has been employed by the nation’s police to score $2.5 Billion in cash and assets from citizens “who were not charged with a crime and without a warrant being issued.” It is a high-dollar confiscation scam through which 298 police departments and 210 task forces have seized as much as 20 % of their operating budgets “…despite a federal ban [on the use of such money] to pay salaries or otherwise support budgets.”
Headless,
"Each of us has a natural right — from God — to defend his person, his liberty, and his property. These are the three basic requirements of life, and the preservation of any one of them is completely dependent upon the preservation of the other two."
Well I guess the atheists here turn it all in. Ya know for da cause!!!.
So primitive.
A meta-data analysis of all your credit card receipts would simply give back to you a list of everything you purchased in the last 10 years by credit card, and ask you to sign an acknowledgement at the bottom.
You either purchase with cash, or you have a bullseye on your forehead. Your choice.
Just say it was already stolen by the thieves that showed up before the current ones
Uh, you for real? You guys came yesterday already. You already took everything. You sure you got the right house?
Consider LCS's have cameras, your cellphone, that lil antenna on your car if it's newer than 04, to add to that meta-data bullseye.
I believe that every Greek citizen will provide a prompt and accurate accounting of such assets.
I took that mattress out on the lake the other day, but my seamanship was poor.
Yah! Und zen ve vant you to declare all of your fillings!
Zig heil!
56 pages? I wouldn't narc on my stored wealth solely due to the paperwork burden. Seriously folks, if your neighbor or part time drinking buds asked what is in your safe or under your mattress, you tell them piss off. But, your govt asks and you will roll over, not a fucking chance. If they get so desperate that they start sending teams door to door it will start a Civil War and the teams will have an extremely high mortality rate early on. Unless you are unfortunate enough to be one of the 1st doors knocked on/ knocked down then the word will spread quickly and there will be a run on the hardware stores for shovels and PVC pipe. This is why cash has got to be killed. Which will just push me to buy more AU/AG or diamonds or Tide or aged whiskeys. No one with a modicum of good sense leaves their spare change in the bank. It amazes me the lengths these thieves will go to squeeze the last cent from their subjects. Desperation!
Oh, just fuck OFF!...The Pygmies in the Amazonian Rain Forest have a better concept of government...
So when do the house to house searches start? Denouncements? This is going to turn into revolutionary France real fast
When you debauch the currency you debauch the nation
And since fiat currency is technically worthless I guess the value of all currency under your mattress that some other fool will take for goods is 0 no matter how much you own.
When they can prove to you fiat has a tangible value maybe you can then declare it
This is normal it should have been declared anyway, except maybe artistic jewelry. Atleast in netherlands, you're a tax cheat if you dont declare all you have. They will always find out in the end anyway.
No shit?
And people call us fascists.
I feel a sudden urge to go buy another gun. Not that I need it.
Thanks for adding to the common stock of knowledge, by the way. +1 for that.
Always room for another show stopper! Bought a new S&W M&P AR this year. Wife had a stroke, and when she recovered she had another when the 1K rounds arrived. Keep em' dry, I have a feeling we're gonna need em.
By the rude bridge that arched the flood
Their flag to April's breeze unfurled
Here, once, embattled farmers stood
And fired the shot heard round the world.
NOTE TO AMBITIOUS TYRANTS EVERYWHERE: We still got plenty of bridges in this country.
In view of the NDAA which allows the government , under conditions it chooses/defines as emergency, to be allowed to confiscate any items it needs, food, water, vehicles, land etc., we all had better be stocking up, and looking for places to hide it.
That authority has been around since the 50s or 60s in the various Continuity of Government plans originally cast to cover the waging of a nuclear war. Pick up a copy of "The Day After World War III" by Edward Zuckerman for an extremely interesting look at how things are likely to play out.
No need to stop at guns Tara - your Right is to "bear arms", not own guns.
In my book that covers everything any government can use, right up to and including nuclear weapons.
Wouldn't that be sweet?
"Either you give us your gold or we'll kick down your door and come in blazing."
"Go right ahead assholes."
"You've got 5 seconds to comply...4, 3, 2, 1 - HERE WE COME!"
MUSHROOM CLOUD
Fuck 'em all - death before submission
Normal? Where? WTF!
All capital over certain tax free tresholds must be declared, doh. Not saying I like it. But if they catch you you're fucked.
Even better, kerf. In the Netherlands you don't need to declare anything. They already know all you've got. Your tax form is pre-completed for you by the Finance Ministry. You only need to sign, electronically. Just a formality.
Correct, they know all legitimate income from the counterparty (employer) books, but you must verify their assumptions are correct before signing off with your electronic autograph.
And there are a lot of tax "cheats" in the Netherlands. The Netherlands black market economy is at least 20% of the annual GDP. As taxes increase, so does the black market. The poor do contra deals, and the rich off shore their assets. The harder the government squeezes, the more slips through their fingers.
What do I declare? I have only shit and shinola and I can't tell the difference!...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTHL0y6xvLE
The same thing is coming to the U.S. – soon - except they will also ask you to add the contents of your gun safe to the list...
Maybe, but my last hoorah would be adding the contents of my gun safe to their faces.