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Greeks Told To Declare Cash "Under The Mattress", Jewelry And Precious Stones
When earlier today we read a report in the Greek Enikonomia, according to which Greek taxpayers would be forced to declare all cash "under the mattress" (including inside) or boxes that contain more than 15,000 euros as well as jewelry and precious stones (including gold) worth over 30,000 euros, starting in 2016, we assumed this has to be some early April fools joke or a mistake.
After all, this would be merely the first step toward full-blown asset confiscation, conducted so many times by insolvent governments throughout history, once the government cracks down on those who made a "mistake" in their asset declaration form or simply refuse to fill such a declaration, thereby making all their assets eligible for government confiscation.
It was not a joke.
Here is the take of Keep Talking Greece, whose stunned response mirrors ours.
Cash "under the mattress" totaling more than 15,000 euro, jewelry and other valuable items such as diamonds and gemstones, should be declared to electronic system of tax authorities, Taxisnet, as of 1 January 2016. Next to properties and vehicles and shares, now the taxpayers will also have to declare their deposits. And not only that. They will have to fill if they rent bank lockers and if yes, also the name of the bank and the branch, even if abroad.
A joint ministerial decision issued by the Ministries of Justice and Finance indicates that taxpayers in Greece should add all their valuables into a new category of the tax declaration, the “Assets declaration.”
Specifically, the decision provides that:
“Assets declarations” are submitted electronically and mandatory via Taxisnet.
Starting date for the submission is 1.1.2016
Declared must be cash money if more than 15,000 euro and precious items if their total value exceeds 30,000 euro. These amounts apply cumulatively per household (husband, wife, underage children).
To facilitate the completion of the declaration, data from the income statements (E1 and E9) will be drawn automatically.
Note that this Assets declaration process will initially apply to lawmakers, journalists, public servants etc and is the rehearsal for the creation of the electronic property & assets register that will be extended to all taxpayers.
The new assets declaration form has a total of 56 pages.
The decision has been taken “in the context of support and development of the economy,” the ministers state.
Some thoughts
First of all, the ministerial decision will certainly support and help to growth the noble profession of accountants.
How can a bride know the value of the jewelry her parents-in-law gave as a wedding gift?
If the retail price of X valuable item was 10,000 euro in 2005, what is the value today?
And what will happen if one will not declare his assets? The tax authorities will raid the home and search under the mattress to find grandma’s ring?
Are you kidding me, Greek Syriza state?
PS we should note that this assets declaration was in plan before SYRIZA came into power. Not sure about what minister promoted this, I vaguely reckon it was form New Democracy. Or most likely it was a Troika’s idea in order to grab the so-called ‘black money’ that starts with 15,001 euro in cash and diamonds worth 30,001 euro.
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“If you in fact had no gold, then your situation was hopeless. You would be beaten, burned, tortured, and steamed to the point of death or until they finally came to believe you. But if you had gold, you could determine the extent of your torture, the limits of your endurance, and your own fate. Psychologically, this situation was, incidentally, not easier but more difficult, because if you made an error you would always be ridden by a guilty conscience. Of course, anyone who had already mastered the rules of the institution would yield and give up his gold—that was easier. But it was a mistake to give it up too readily. They would refuse to believe you had coughed it all up, and they would continue to hold you. But you'd be wrong, too, to wait too long before yielding: you'd end up kicking the bucket or they'd paste a term on you out of meanness. One of the Tatar draymen endured all the tortures: he had no gold! They imprisoned his wife, too, and tortured her, but the Tatar stuck to his story: no gold! Then they arrested his daughter: the Tatar couldn't take it any more. He coughed up 100,000 rubles. At this point they let his family go, but slapped a prison term on him.”
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago, 1918-1956: An Experiment in Literary Investigation, Books I-II
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/01/young-white-people-are-losing-their-faith-in-the-american-dream/Because it's turned into the American nightmare. Time to water the tree. Young white people might have to learn the hard way that they're not wanted anymore in the Zio states of America.
This old white guy says fuck'em for buying into the whole diversity/multiculturalism is good scam. In a better world racial/cultural differences would not matter but atronomers have yet to discover that particular world. Back here on Planet Bizarro when the hoodrats move in to that Section 8 paid house next door your peace and property values are lowered. btdt and glad becasue it motivated me to move to East TX.
I do hate it for my kids. They will have to struggle harder.
Yup, hate it too
Not if they're raised right. Just give them a harder edge is all.
Time to cash in your humanity kids - it was all a scam anyway.
Naggers
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What fucking dream?
That shit died with the boomers.
Here is your answer
www.truthinaccounting.org
But Greek`s tax system is one big fake anyway, thus this wont do much IMO. Because of that I wouldnt be worried much even if I was Greek citizen.
Filling out my tax forms over 2014 i had to fill in if i had €1000,- or more cash on hand. First time ever, Netherlands. "Soon in your backyard". Bitchez.
Did the Belasting Dienst show up at your front door to verify the amount of cash on hand that you reported? I didn't think so. It is all bull shit. If no one complied with these ridiculous demands for information, you actually believe the government would dare to try to confiscate every citizen's property? That would be a pretext to civil war and revolution. And even if they confiscated everything with little or no resistance, what would they do for Act II? If the people have nothing, than can't consume or produce anything. Kiss the economy good bye.
FYI, in 2014 i sold something for cash, kept a bit in cash and put the rest (€900) in my bank account. That kind of action triggers the tax hungry information circuits. We will all have to be very careful with our actions. Just a lousy €1000 or more and 'they' want to know.
What of your friend? Be had an I'll favored look. Basic investigation. Ask the neighbors. Can you see a notice on the office web page about 1/800 turn in a hoarder? There be a reward for your patriotic duty so point your finger and often
I have something to declare: Goldman Sachs banksters are scum sucking bottom feeders who deserve to be processed into chum. I would further declare that they should be fed to fish; however, I like animals and wouldn't want to cause them indigestion.
Bitcoin
And do what with it?
HOW to you get tens of thousands of dollars/euro INTO bitcoin without the government knowing about it? When every electronic transaction is monitored? And gift cards and prepaid credit cards are banned/moniotred (that's happening in Europe right now, in the name of terrorism)
Then, how do you get it OUT of bitcoin? Sure, some venders might accept bitcoin, in a back alley.
Oh wait, you haven't thought that far ahead.
Bitcoin is treated as any other capital like bullion or stocks or cash here in Holland, you must declare it to the taxman.
That could NEVER happen here in the land of the free . . . without some edits.
Note that this Assets declaration process will NOT apply to lawmakers, journalists, public servants etc. . . .
How convienent that Rubin, Blankenstein(sic)... et al have their mattress in the Caymans..
But they're not "their" mattresses, they are the mattresses of a different (corporate) person who is a foreign subsidiary of another corporate person, whose shareholders are a bunch of trusts... I'm not sure if it's convenient, but it is effective.
Hmmmm.... after careful deliberation to that directive, my response would be F U.
This is what happens when you let government control you instead of you controlling your government. This is the stuggle of our time. These people in power throughout the world, the Climate Change Communists for want of a better description, will wreck the entire world befoe they give up the power they now have but can't sustain. It is happening everywhere. Even in United States municipalities. Everywhere. Like a plague.
Either we are going to control them or they're going to control us and it looks, for now, like they are winning.
The database with all of these records will get hacked and then sold to criminals so they know who to burgle or who can pay a ransom.
In Spain there is a declaration number 720 to the IRS. You have to declare your assets abroad. If you just make a very small mistake, you pay a 30.000 euro fine. You make a few mistakes, you pay hundreds of thousands of euros. It could happen that you end up paying in fines much more than all your assets abroad, even if acting in good faith. Totally outrageous.
Governments are becoming the new thieves.
Governments / Religions are the original thieves.
Next they'll make it a crime to "structure" your mattress deposits in order to avoid the 15k euro threshold.
"The new assets declaration form has a total of 56 pages."
Government had plenty of money to print up these forms....
It's a world against savers.
lol, will the Zeus come to Earth to enforce this shit? :D
As I have noted many times…
The problem, from our perspective, is, ‘How do we protect ourselves from their murderous political system?’ How, for example, do we protect our property (from physical gold, to businesses, to stocks and bonds (domestic and foreign)) from seizure by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)? Furthermore, how do we protect ourselves from informers now being recruited, trained and protected by the DHS?
By the act of Congress that established the DHS a system was created by which informers could make false allegations against anyone they please with near-total impunity. Of course, such informers aren’t described as informers; rather they are given the title “submitting person” and the DHS Act provided that their falsehoods will never be examined by any court or legislature or law enforcement agency. The legislation even specifies how this immunity is obtained. The “submitting person” only has to give an “express statement” that his lies were “voluntarily given” and that he expected “protection from disclosure”. It’s all there, in the act that created the DHS.
I’m sorry guys, but silly season is over. Even if you own physical gold, live in a cabin in the woods along with a stash of ammo and AK-47’s, you lose. If you don’t fall to the horde of hungry homeless, you will fall to DHS death squads. All the homeless have to do is to wait until you collapse from lack of sleep (24, 48, 72 hours), then they march in, slit your throat and… let your imagination run wild.
If you own stocks or bonds, guess what: you’re depending on criminal and useless classes to deliver your purchasing power at the moment of their greatest victory. Did I mention something about ‘silly season’?
If you want to survive, you have to combine with others of like mind for the purpose of mutual protection, among other purposes. The big question now is, ‘HOW is this to be done?’ And the quick answer is, ‘You must establish First-Amendment assemblies – the only historically-proven method by which men have made their lives and property secure from rule by thieves.’
The American Revolution, for example, was powered by a large network of such assemblies: from town meetings, county meetings, state conventions and, ultimately, to Continental Congresses.
Let’s be realistic: this solution won’t be easy or quick… unprecedented adventures never are.
Greeks will also have to declare the stocks they own,buy or sell on a year to year basis. That will destroy the most important aspect of the Greek stock exchange and in fact of every stock exchange.............anonymity. All share packets that change hands,regardless of size, will have to be declared to the Government. The funniest thing of all is that the Greek Taxisnet system is extremely easy to hack and the Greeks may soon find themselves the target of thieves due to leaks of their personal data,that is of the valuables they have declared. Greece has become a colony that will be systematically plundered and stripped of all its assets.
Your turn is coming soon. Agents of The Great Red Dragon are taking final steps in their goal "to own the earth in fee-simple." The old 1889 book is NOT a playbook, nor an actual step-by-step guide. It simply is an example, mainly to help get the mud out of your eyes, to help you see that these events are live-test-studies by the financial sociopaths to meet their "goal."
I can hear the laughter of the mattress bankers now. You first, cousin.
SILVER IS SAFE!!!
But if you don't declare you huge stash of silver and you try to sell it in the future, they will seize your HOUSE and everything ELSE you own.
hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahaha
I can't stop laughing, good God Tyer I am going to send you the bill for the keyboard. I 've ruined it.
And the European Union along with the Greek Government can be guaranteed one thing,the average Greek will say "F-U" and chug back a good glass of wine while laughing out load and say" These stupid basturds expect someone to sit down and read 56 pages of bullshit and hand their valuables and cash over to a bunch of gangsters,get real you bunch of losers."
Then the government will simply confiscate EVERYTHING you own and YOU will have to PROVE where the money came from to have bought those items.
Take a look what's happened in the US with seizure of property RELATED to crime. I remember one story about someone selling $40 worth of drugs, and because of that, they seized EVERYTHING they owned.
Not filling in the forms? You make it VERY easy for the governemnt to seize EVERYTHING you own, bank accounts, cars, houses, and CONTENTS. Failing to file or disclose assets is a CRIME.
People forget that they finaly got Al Capone, not because of his criminal activity, but becaue of TAXES.
How about bitcoins in the head?
Greeks thought they’d never have to barter for food right before their ATM’s stopped working. I’m glad that will never happen in the USA.
Would that also include my buttbank?
* (wallet)
Was the clarification so we didnt think sperm?
Yeah. Sorry to disappoint you.
"Greeks Told To Declare Cash "Under The Mattress", Jewelry And Precious Stones"Did they drop leaflets?
Will the women be forced to declare the estimated value of their viginas??
What is $2 per hour on an annual basis?
You have to figure in deprecaition.
LOL!
can they do the five year asset write off?
5 years? Have you tried one yet? 6 months is the longest you probably want to invest. And thats "stretching" it.
Bam!
American Gangbangers will be lining up to fill out their Bling Forms just like when they file taxes.
Imho all greeks should put insane amounts like few trillions in gold etc.
How much is your wedding ring worth?
Mine is worth One trillion usd in my opinion.
Then they will issue you, and everyone else who does it, a tax bill that will hang around your neck well after you are dead. Your HOUSE, and all assets will simply be seized and auctioned off becasue of your "disclosure".
If the entire country does it, then the government will simply seize EVERYTHING to pay outstanding tax bills.
Didn't think of it that way?
They really don't care about cash, becasue the cash limits are pretty high anyway.
They want records of PROPERTY, like houses, cars, boats, becasue that's where the bulk of assets are held by most people. It's for future estate taxes when you die, or before, which will cause you to die...
In about 4 years, I'm contemplating putting almost everything I own into a trust, mostly because I foresee a point where should I require any sort of hospitalization, I'd lose everything I own (thanks Obamacare!).
Probably too late. They will simply declare that you are intentionally trying to shield your assets and declare it void.
I believe that you might have to pay taxes on everything you put into that trust. There are gift taxes you know, you can't give money away without it being taxed.
Can I take a shit without being taxed? What about breathing?
Shit, yes. Flush, no.
Inhale, yes. Exhale, still okay but we're working on it over here in the Elysee slums.
breathing for now, ok. we are working on a carbon tax however. we will monitor your CO2 content in each exhale and tax you accordingly.
You are in trouble now Jethro!!! NSA has it on record that back on Dec 1 2015 you discussed commiting tax evasion on an open forum. This information WILL be used against you in a court of law.
And how is that tax evasion exactly? They will all be assets I've already paid taxes on?
I just made this up in my own head but I know the next step! A "potential work tax". The formula will be how much work you can provide that will generate X level income and then you can pay a tax every year working or not! Sounds like the perfect govit idea. Then, once you have not paid your obligated contribution, you will be placed in prison to work off said "potential" until you die.
I think North Korea has some similar programs. Who knew they were so far ahead on a world financial scale?
Been done. It's called a Head Tax. You get taxed simply for breathing.
If I am not mistaken Obama Care is a very similar thing..
How did ANY group of sentient beings allow any of this to be done to them in this century and during our short stay on this particular planet? Why are vast groups of humans so prone to allowing themselves to be treated as mindless slaves by fellow humans no "better" than themselves? What an endless waste of life. It has to be stopped. Karma, but not by itself.
40 acres and a shovel.
What you don't understand is they don't want whatever you bury, they want your LAND. It's your 40 acres that's at stake, not the few thousand dollars you bury.
Then it will be up to the government to prove those assets exist in the first place.
I think a couple of strategically buried bundles of #3 rebar per acre will provide some great exercise for the federal agents that come exploring.
Doesn't work that way. They SEIZE EVERYTHING FIRST and then YOU have to prove how you got them.
They don't care about the few trinkets you bury. They will simply look over your tax records, determine you are living above your means, or have undisclosed assets, and then they seize EVERYTHING. It's then up to YOU to PROVE where the money went.
Sorry, you aren't thinking the way governments think. You still believe that THEY have the burden of proof. Nope. Reality is that YOU have the burden of proof in tax "crimes".
Check the ASSET SEIZURE rules in the US, they are sweeping. They find $100 worth of drugs on a person, and then they seize EVERYTING that person has. Meaning house and contents, cars, boats, everything, becasue it's "related to crime". Tax crimes are exactly the same.
The US never convicted Al Capone of any "crime" like murder or bootlegging. They jailed him for TAX EVASION.
Which is why I downsized considerably after my divorce. I don't live beyond my means, and I certainly don't lead an extravagant lifestyle. This is a process that will continue to take me years, but by the end of it, I intend to be a very small target indeed. Unfortunately for me, my only source of income is pilfered immediately by the IRS (along with everybody else that is a wage slave).
Nobody expect the Spanish Iinquisition !!
The Real Spanish Inquisition:
Hey, meester, you want to fuck my seester?
They can have my beanie babies when they prie them from my cold, dead hands.
Remember the Million Man march in DC? Louis Farrakhan managed to get somewhere in the neighborohood of 800.000 to show up.
You would think the good old USA could manage a few million protestors to get government to slow down its thievery to an affordable level and stay out of wars and the torture business, it aint good for uncle sam's image, then again they should show his picture behind bars where he ought to be.
It appears that for all the bluster, citizens are as scared of their government as they are of terrorists.
Maybe another non-binding referendum will help.
Maybe not.
Graphically beat a few old lady aggressors on national TV. Drag them around by their hair screaming. The rest will fall in line.
Lindsey Williams Latest: Please I beg you, click on the link for the latest update regarding Greece from my elite friend……
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/lindsey-williams-la...
The first time I listened to Lindsey Williams, I remember how it took him an hour to get to his point. I was annoyed about wasting my time. After a seond time, I lost all interest in him. It doesn't surprise me, he's a con man.
These goofy ideas have a way of spreading. Expect a similar law in the USA soon.
Too Late. It's been in place in the US for more than a century. It's called the IRS and the Tax Code.
You realize that in the US, you aren't allowed to GIFT (give away) money or any assets (above $14k a year) unless you pay TAX on it?
The same applies to UK as well.
Still waiting for some politicians to get assassinated in Greece. The waiting is the hardest part.
You know the old saying, "if you want a job done right, ....".
I'm just joking, I would never advocate violence until it's time to advocate violence. And right now it's thisclose.
Shh... just let it happen. Itsabouttogetcloser. But not yet. sheep are screaming to the tunes provided.
And remember... if/when you finally snap, it's a real wasted opportunity if you take out some poor slob who is just a visible minority going about his business. If you don't make arrangements to take out a banker, you're just not trying.
You really are impatient.
From what I gather they still waiting to see, WHO ELSE, as politicians is going to betray them, we are nearly there don't rush it.
They went from the RIGHT , CENTRE AND LEFT of the political spectrum, there are still the Ultra Left, as in KKE and the Ultra Right as in GOLDEN DAWN.
Then when they fuck up as well ALL BETS ARE OFF.
Does this mean I have to tell the authorities about my boating accident??? Damn. Littering on public property is a crime. Am I to be forced to be a witness against myself??
I know they don't have guns there, but sometimes ripping politicians apart with bare hands can be fun too.
So, if you get burlarized and the thieves get your guns n cash n Prcious and the cops catch them with the loot and you did not report it... you weren't going to see it back anyway so again, why report it. There is that whole fines for not reporting it after they recover it thing. Avoid getting burgled.
Everybody step up and weigh the value of your children, the Gods of banking demand their value... Longshank's troops have first bid.. Your government borrowed more money from Satan than they could pay back and now they say you must pay..
Since politicians borrowed the money, for their benefit, as opposed to Amerrica's benefit, they should pay it back. Politicians borrowed the money to give to voters so voters would vote for them. Politicians need to pay it back or hang bankers. I'm for the latter.
OK, Mr Taxman. When my wife walked out on me (ok, I was fucking her sister), she took all her jewelry with her. Not only that, she took my stack of cash and gold.
When you find her, tell her I want my stuff back. ALL of it.
Now, what was the question again?
Ummm, no. Furthermore, fuck you.
Aaah, registration - confiscation's foot-in-the-door moment.
These kinds of unenforcable demands from the State are what lead to its discreditation with the people, and its downfall.
So tell me why they should fill in any forms to give the criminals er, tax collectors, a chance to seize their property?
they used to wait until you died before that assessed assests so they could steal, er tax them. Now they want them whilst you are still alive?
Why bother to work at all, they just steal from you and tax you to death anyway if you do.
What happens if you don't fill in the forms?
Easy answer. The government will simply come and confiscate EVERYTHING you own. Your house, property, it's contents, your car, etc. Don't have enough assets? They'll garnishee your wages too.
Because you didn't declare it, you are automatically a criminal. Look up Asset Forfeiture laws for criminals. They seize FIRST, and then it's up to YOU to prove how you got it. US law enforcement makes several billion dollars a year just from seizing and auctioning off assets from "criminals".
Well in that case, the "lawmakers, journalists, public servants etc" (that this applies to starting in 2016) should just shoot em in the face and take all their shit.
Simple. Fill out the form. Make up numbers. Make sure they are small numbers.
Ehhh you are rightly jumping ahead to the "confiscation" level of registration.. Just call it inventory for the govit..
This has never gone well with gun owners. Should be obvious to smokers and, well, the "holders of anything worth stealing" like the greeks.
Keep voting for safety, I will draw mine.
Hey Greeks. Want to park your cash and gems over here is Canada. Give me a call and I will put it in my bank account for you nice and safe for 5% fee. You can get it back in person any time you want.
(Athens, Royters News)
"The central government in Athens is at a loss to exlain the disappearance of over 125 Tax Collectors who failed to show up for work Monday."
"Government officials also denied the recent mass grave discovered outside Athens contained anything but body parts, not the missing tax collectors. The government insists it was an illegal dump used by a nearby hospital."
"Sales of waterproof containers and Greek boating accidents have increased over 300% in the last two weeks."
Declare your cat as a million dollar cat, and when they try to tax your asset, give them your cat.
You will get a full magazine from my 30-30 in your gut before you get my CAT!
LOL
Offended that your cat is only worth a million dollars?
Ok call it a Billion dollar Cat!
Anyway those dollars or euros are just worthless pieces of paper. They have value only because you give it credibility.
I don't care how bad things get - i am not going near any Greek dude's mattress
Nobody will own any artwork.
Shows you how dumb Greek government is. They say "under and in the mattress". They never said anything about in walls, attics, under floors in the ground etc.
All the greek has to do is take his/her valuables and put them where .gov didn't mention.
How soon before this starts happening in the USA? WE have got to do something to stop this criminal cartel called the Federal Reserve, IMF, World bank, etc. Why does the Federal Government, which is authorized by the Constitution, to create and issue interest-free money, instead borrows that money at interest from a privately owned central bank, thereby plunging future generations into debt slavery to that bank? THAT is the real question we should be asking!"
The idea of a Privately owned central bank printing what THEY call money and loaning this ink and paper out with interest is patently absurd.
I do not want my money going to support other countries when we have Americans who can't find jobs and are living in poverty and are homeless. We can produce those things we need at home and give people jobs doing it!
Stop bombing, murdering and destabilizing other sovereign nations. “ Democracy cannot be transplanted to other countries; democracy is the product of growth and development; not war and aggression.”
You do realize that if we decided to seriously pursue alternative (non-petroleum) energy sources, Israel would be shit out of luck? Their entire excuse for indispensability is as the sole reliable base/ally in the Middle East. But if petroleum is unnecessary, so is the Middle East, ergo Israel.
If you want peace and prosperity, support solar, nuclear and wind power generation. Reduce/eliminate intellectual property protections. And push for the adoption of a single public credit union/retail bank to freely provide basic credit and savings accounting for non-commercial customers without conflicts of interest from profit motive or in-house investments. Of course, this will never happen because it would completely cut out Those Who Must Not Be Named (or criticized) from their power bases.
The problem with alternative energy sources is that they all are subject to the law of thermodynamics and the amount of energy packed into a gallon of crude is literally amazing.
So they are competing with something that has a stupendous advantage.
I'm all for alternative energy research but until it hits paydirt and can legitmately take on oil and greatly reduce it's role in our energy consumption ledgers then we'd be better off drilling for our own oil which we did then the Saudis decided to take that out.
We have so much coal that could be burned cleanly it's not even funny.
The best way to reduce our need for oil is the industry getting slammed down the fastest all because we are calling CO2 a toxic gas that plants actually really like.
Thus the best solution is off the table because of stupidity.
Time for the Greek people to violently oppose these banksters/technocrats making these rules.
Time to switch to bitcoin.
Some of them certainly did. Will be interesting to see how the .gov/banks go about trying to confiscate that. They and Cyprus are after all a template in the making.
I wonder if they are dumb enough to go for the tools. Thats the 3% you dont fuck with.
What is to stop someone declaring they have a company, and that the money is the companies money? I can see it being hard to confiscate then, or even just track when abroad...
Simply stop holding up that thing running around calling its self government.
Go fuck yourself. Give me death or liberty.
It is obvious that the complex contracts of international financiers of no fixed abode and their chosen ones, their pet politicans, intend to run off with the money...and burn down the building to hide evidence of their crimes: that is the Middle East war they clamour for, against all sane reason or popular dissent from such madness. Our troops to be burnt for their lies, their love of money. Filth.
Keep the Constitution. Keep the guns.
Ordinary Americans are naturally globalist because we live with our neighbors from many lands. The so-called 'globalists' as per Rockefeller, Rothschild, Soros, Gates, Buffet and their pet politicians are the old feudal order of corrupt, money loving whores, whipping the multitude into a frenzy; pitting one person against another, so the nasty old men can escape with their filthy lucre, and plots to control all, hate everyone.
Their self proclaimed New World Order is nothing more than the greed, avarice and hate loved by the Old World Order money freaks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYMD_W_r3Fg
Don't get fooled again. The link goes to Brit defiance: The Who. Don't get fooled again.
"I get on my knees and pray, we don't get fooled again." (The Who)
"Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. Don't get fooled again."
"intend to run off with the money...and burn down the building to hide evidence of their crimes"
The day before the 9/11 attacks Rumsfeldt announced that three trillion, yes, that's three thousand billion dollars, was unaccounted for at the Pentagon under Dov Zakheim's reign. The wing of the Pentagon where the investigation was taking place was destroyed by the uncanny accuracy of the Cessna pilots' flight skills the very next day. The investigation team and all their evidence were destroyed, investigation terminated, Zakheim given another award for Distinguished Public Service.
Move along now, nothing to see here.
Enough is enough. We are coming to that point.
True. Keep the Constitution. Keep the guns.
what cracks me up is that the greeks have always been massive tax cheats! part of the reason why they're in such dire straights is NO ONE PAID THEIR PROPER TAXES for decades if not centuries... this whole charade is the equivalent of fencing-in the ranch after all the livestock was eaten by predators. odds of this working are equal to the odds of greece ever paying back their debts: 0.
Where is Jon Corzine? He ran off with billions in client's money after Jamie Dimon of JP Morgue said, paraphrasing: 'Pay us or fuckin die.' Like the gangsters they are.
While their Golem Sacks associates made complex contracts with venal or idiot politicians in Greece (and the rest of the world). Now ordinary people are lambasted...rather than the prime criminals go to jail.
There are three ways this plays out. Collection of wealth data has only a few possible outcomes.
1, Socialist government enacts a 2% wealth tax proposed by Thomas Pikety on a road to social justice, EU allows the experiment. Capital controls are in place, so it might be the time to just do it now.
2. Introduce drachma.
3. Bank bailout. Now I believe that Greece would explode at that moment with army seizing the country. Greeks protest about the saltiness of gyros. After this any such move by Syriza would mean betrayer and Athens would be rough place for a while.
Hence I belive that it is the first one. And I agree, it should be imposed. It just needs some sort of incentive, a contract from the governmnet that gives you something as worthy.
You propose more debt servitude for the ordinary person, and allow the prime criminals to get away with their perfidy.
Have you no shame, no heart, no conscience, Shylock? Your love of money above all else is depraved.
Greeks !!! look to Iceland for your answers .... !!!!
down with corruption
Absolutely right, but unfortunately, the Greeks are sold out by their own politicians in hock to international financiers, and it's just a case of which gangster persuades Greeks to bow down and suffer.
They have no Viking defiance. They have lost the soul of what it is to be truly Greek.
"Viking defiance" as you put it, tends to be fatal in one generation when faced with brutal conquerors. Greece has faced brutal conquerors repeatedly in the last two thousand years. Viking defiance has been eliminated from the gene pool.
What has been selected for is cunning deception and passive resistance. People who have repeatedly faced brutal oppressors armed with nothing but wits and bare hands are environmentally selected for the ability to APPEAR to comply with orders, while funneling off the profits on the side. Clumsy attempts like this to register personal property and cash will be universally evaded, and Greek politicians who have been forced by their EU overseers to implement them will shrug and look the other way while loudly proclaiming their own helplessness.
Nothing short of another military occupation could make this work, and Germany surely knows better than to attempt THAT without a very good excuse . . . perhaps the fact of Greece being overrun by illegal Islamic immigrants unable to continue northward through the rapidly closing borders of the Balkans. But still unlikely. The Germans are far more likely to just allow Greece to become an open war zone, as long as they can keep it isolated behind barbed wire fences owned and operated by Serbians, Montenegrans, Croatians, Slovenians, Romanians and Hungarians -- ANYONE else who can be saddled with the bad press.
Iceland and...
Smith & Wesson
Glock
H&K
Sig
Take 'em your choice and take it to them.
The gold "buy back" in India did not go well, what was it, 5 oz or something? Lol
After seeing what you allowed your politicians to get away with this past year I almost believe most of you would declare what's under your mattress.....fools.
Said the Washington blackened pot....
I can't find the line to report all the stolen money I have obtained over the years. It is not under my mattress. Should I contact the Greek government for clarification?
The Muppet Show Theme (Season Five)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ9yAV8uQ7g (1:15)
Greece, go long: shovels, airtight containers, air tickets.
You have been at this for a long time, Ann.
http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/259051-roger-knights/1801751-how-to-hi...
"honestann - The answer in one acronym: GPS.
No, not the automobile kind, one of the aircraft or vessel types that displays longitude, latitude and altitude. Find extremely remote places in the boonies, bury your stash 1 to 3 meters deep in extremely well sealed pipes or containers, then write down the coordinates in some other misleading format (a series of telephone numbers, a series of social-security numbers, a series of car VIN numbers, a series of insurance policy numbers, whatever works for you - and write the digits in reverse order too, and/or offset the digits by the first n primes, or whatever you will surely remember but nobody else could ever guess.
Leave half the information required to find your loot with one trusted friend, or better yet arrange for the information to be delivered upon your death. Arrange for another trusted friend to get the other half of the information required to find your loot upon your death. Neither should know or expect anything before then, and most importantly neither should know each other, or even know of each other."
How To Hide Gold, Precious Metals, Etc.Here is a better idea: Hire a hit man. Where is the mob when you need them? In front of the camera obeying their over-the-top wives. So, possibly hire a hit country. How about Russia. Pay them in jewels, precious metals and money hidden in our mattresses. A coordinated effort to get this pay off to the Russian military, who will then use it to buy the MIS ISLES with this penned on them: ". 90 million dollars. How to get it to them? Pawn shop as cover and begin the negotiations. Hand them the keys. We are in the cross hairs of the men who we pay to protect us, and they have very bad intentions.
Yup, "GPS and a post-hole digger" is a very good and concise way to say it.
I am very much pro self-defense (or paying hitmen, as long as the purpose is indeed self-defense and/or recovery of goods and/or retaliation against prior aggression).
One potential problem with hitmen, of course, is that you need to know who stole your stuff, and how. Which adds "excellent surveillance system" to the list of items required to go that route.
You know what? Given the way the world is going, the world really should have a booming "private mercenary" business. If someone screws you... and you have sufficient evidence to clearly demonstrate your claim is true, and who is responsible... you hire your favorite "hitman" or "private mercenary service" to recover losses plus recovery expenses plus a reasonable "risk and hassle fee" and/or kill the predators responsible.
Damn. So many fools are willing to join predators-DBA-government to go kill unknown people far from home. You'd think at least some of them would be more-than-willing to help victims.
Unfortunately not, I guess, unless you have the cover of fictitious flags, titles and uniforms. Sheesh, humans are so dumb.
Whistleblowers are just a decision away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THrZZ95i8zQ 2035 - President Edward Snowden makes an announcement.
One more. Snowden You'll like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo4dAw-Z7Gw Write Snowden In
It's not too late. Goldman Sachs and the spider web of satellites and subsidiaries, loyal army of like-minded agents. It is not too late and that is their biggest concern.
Cash ! Is that/are those, those pieces of paper issued by the different Governments which also do not have the words any " Guaranteed by " ?
To all of them ( Govts), I would say, I have lots of pieces of paper at home which are my own issued cash & currency (with different values). I also think I have more credibility than you. Why do you want me to think that your cash has or will continue to have any value?
Also I have a lot of boulders and stones that are precious to me. What you call precious stones- I do not possess as you have made me impecunious. If you like I can, since I have many, I can throw some of my precious boulders and stones at you and you can be happy at receiving them.
As Govts, you are there to do my bidding- not vice versa.
Fuck Off
oy veh
14,999 it is
Greece, Peuto Rico, Argentina, Brazil, Syria, muzzie euro scourge, ME mess, south china sea, ruski passanger and fighter jet, silver and gold physical demand, debt levels, deflation, money printing...there's never been a world economic and geo-political situation like this for what, like 100yrs....probably ever
No way in the world we get out of this with out world war, a global financial collapse (the biggest evwr) and gold at $10k.....no fcking way man
You neglected to mention the mass die-off, ( man made or other) that follows your conclusion.
The Deutche Mark (euro) must survive at all costs. There will be no Greek Exit, Germany will ensure this is all taken care of in due time. Germany is a producer and an exporter, any trifiling with the status quo will mean your Porsches will cost an extra $35k. You don't want that now, do ya?
You do know that sales of VW's have fallen over 22% MOM for the last 3 mos?
No one is producing goods of value at even half the rate they were 8 yrs ago.
We are watching the idling of the worlds workforce.
Enjoy every moment of Normalcy you can.
LOL
LMAO
Seriously?
LOL
$5.oo whores!!!! Woot! Woot!
Also, any cash, jewelry or other valuables stuck up in body cavities need to be declared. The tax man will personally come and check. Why object, you are screwed anyway.