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House Democrat Warns Obama's Actions Could Lead To "Devastating Nuclear War"
It was so much easier when Obama was running a military "sneakers on the ground" campaign in Iraq and Syria where there was no official confirmation of the thousands of "military advisors" engaging directly with various known and unknown adversaries. However, a recent surge of media reports by mainstream publications exposing America's illicit troops operating in the middle eastern combat zones has made a total mockery of the latest US attempt at clandestine ops, and as a result earlier today the White House was forced to admit it would backtrack on its countless promises there would be "no boots on the ground" in Iraq.
Did we say countless, we actually counted some of them - there are at least 16 specific instances in just the past two years in which Obama promised to not do what he just did:
Remarks before meeting with Baltic State leaders, Aug. 30, 2013
"In no event are we considering any kind of military action that would involve boots on the ground, that would involve a long-term campaign. But we are looking at the possibility of a limited, narrow act that would help make sure that not only Syria, but others around the world, understand that the international community cares about maintaining this chemical weapons ban and norm. So again, I repeat, we're not considering any open-ended commitment. We're not considering any boots-on-the-ground approach."
Remarks in the Rose Garden, Aug. 31, 2013
"After careful deliberation, I have decided that the United States should take military action against Syrian regime targets. This would not be an open-ended intervention. We would not put boots on the ground. Instead, our action would be designed to be limited in duration and scope."
Interview on Bloomberg View, Feb, 27, 2014
"We are doing everything we can to see how we can do that and how we can resource it. But I've looked at a whole lot of game plans, a whole lot of war plans, a whole bunch of scenarios, and nobody has been able to persuade me that us taking large-scale military action even absent boots on the ground, would actually solve the problem."
Address to the Nation on Syria, Sept. 10, 2014
"I want the American people to understand how this effort will be different from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It will not involve American combat troops fighting on foreign soil. This counterterrorism campaign will be waged through a steady, relentless effort to take out ISIL wherever they exist, using our air power and our support for partner forces on the ground."
Remarks at the White House, Feb. 11, 2015
"The resolution we've submitted today does not call for the deployment of U.S. ground combat forces to Iraq or Syria. It is not the authorization of another ground war, like Afghanistan or Iraq. ... As I've said before, I'm convinced that the United States should not get dragged back into another prolonged ground war in the Middle East. That's not in our national security interest, and it's not necessary for us to defeat ISIL. Local forces on the ground who know their countries best are best positioned to take the ground fight to ISIL, and that's what they're doing."
Remarks at the Pentagon, July 6, 2015
"There are no current plans to do so. That's not something that we currently discussed. I've always said that I'm going to do what's necessary to protect the homeland. One of the principles that we all agree on, though, and I pressed folks pretty hard because in these conversations with my military advisers I want to make sure I'm getting blunt and unadulterated, uncensored advice. But in every one of the conversations that we've had, the strong consensus is that in order for us to succeed long-term in this fight against ISIL, we have to develop local security forces that can sustain progress. It is not enough for us to simply send in American troops to temporarily set back organizations like ISIL, but to then, as soon as we leave, see that void filled once again with extremists."
And many more such remarks; for the full list see here.
However, Defense Secretary Ash Carter's teleprompter was still warm from this unexpected announcement of a dramatic change in the White House's narrative, when the problems rapidly emerged.
First, it was the core Iraqi Shi'ite militias who quickly denounced the planned deployment, and threatened any US special forces found on the ground with swift death: "We will chase and fight any American force deployed in Iraq," said Jafaar Hussaini, a spokesman for one of the Shi'ite armed groups, Kata'ib Hezbollah. "Any such American force will become a primary target for our group. We fought them before and we are ready to resume fighting."
Then it was Iraq's new Prime Minister, Haider al-Abadi, who also rejected the need for US troops: "We do not need foreign ground combat forces on Iraqi land," Abadi said in a statement.
One wonders under what jurisdiction the Obama administration has decided to send troops to Iraq, if both the country's sovereign government and its de facto army are making it very clear that the US is not welcome.
And while we wait to find out just how Russia will respond to this very clear escalation in what is a proxy war that has now shifted from the air and the sea to its final destination, the ground, another stumbling block has emerged for Obama now that his private war in Iraq (and Syria) has been exposed to the world: Congress, and particularly members of his own party, Democrats who suddenly feel betrayed by their progressive, pacifist, Nobel-peace prize winning president.
According to the National Review, White House press secretary Josh Earnest urged lawmakers to pass new legislation providing Obama with the explicit authority to counter ISIS. “This effort is serious, and should be the focus of serious debate,” Earnest told reporters during his Tuesday briefing. “It will take more than three weeks to pass an authorization for the use of military force (AUMF), but Congress, in each of these cases, must stop using the fact that these issues are difficult as an excuse for doing nothing.”
Ironically, while traditionally the administration has blamed Republicans for doing nothing when it does not get its way, this time it is the Democrats who are lazy.
Because as NRO adds, Carter got a hint of just how difficult it may be to sell Congress on such legislation when Representative Tulsi Gabbard (D., Hawaii) suggested that Obama’s decision to place American fighter jets equipped "to target Russian planes" on the border between Turkey and Syria, and his stated opposition to Russian-backed Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, could lead the U.S. into a nuclear war with Vladimir Putin’s regime.
What is surprising is not that a Democrat will stand in the way of a neocon "liberal" president, who changes his political spots on a daily basis, depending entirely on the direction where the money is blowing from; what is surprising is that someone actually gets the stakes involved in the Syrian global proxy war (where the powers involved at last check include the US, Russian, Germany, France, and the UK) which as we have warned for the past year, can escalate to nothing short of a nuclear exchange. To wit:
“Russia’s installation of their anti-aircraft missile-defense system increases that possibility of — whether it’s intentional or even an accidental event — where one side may shoot down the other side’s plane,” Gabbard told Carter. “And that’s really where the potential is for this devastating nuclear war."
Dear Ms. Gabbard: do you really think Obama does not know this?
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Under International law, Syria is a Sovereign State with a democratically elected leader and nobody has any right to enter Syrian territory or airspace unless invited, like Russia. Any "Accidents" will be as a direct result of transgression of International law. Not that the US has ever bothered too much about International law and conventions.
What is this, a democrat with a lick of sense? Quick, get the CIA to reprogram her before she wakes up too many people...
The tribe wants us to wipe each other out, so they can take over more openly....
I have an idea.... Let's not throw nukes around. That is soooo 1950.
Duck & Cover! (but make sure you have your trusty scissors under your desk)
Everything Obama touches turns to shit.
Under International law, Syria is a Sovereign State with a democratically elected leader and nobody has any right to enter Syrian territory or airspace unless invited,
And if a foreign state decides to drop bombs on Syrian territory without the permission of the Syrian government that act constitutes an act of war.
What the hell is going on!? Doesn't this "democrat" know the Won is trying to save the fucking planet...from Paris...even as we speak!?
Traitor!
Arrest them all!!!
Maybe this should be filed under " Must destroy planet so we can save it". I believe it's a corollary to the " Must pass bill so we can see what is in it." Unfortunately, I have not been privileged to an Ivy League education so I can't understand the logic.
Miffed;-)
These people are fucking nuts.
The irony of a Nobel Peace Prize winning president located at the very crux of a nuclear war which kills hundreds of millions of people will never be forgotten.
<< One cloudless day, 3,000 years into the future, hooves splash in the shallow waters of a nameless beach.
The rider stops, dismounts and falls to the sand. He sees the great ruined face of Liberty, corroded, and rails into the sky "You bastards!" but only the cries of seagulls answer back. >>
In the past, our today, we sit at our keyboards and collectively sigh "We see it now, and the pointless, sad, emptiness of it. Why? Is it madness, hubris, or stupidity?"
Silence reigns as skeletons flutter in the wind.
LOL,
As a fan of irony it's even more esquisite than that. Go ahead and mention that he won the peace prize for a speech about ridding the world of nukes.
"Trixe" hobbitses.
Well, if they do launch them all, I guess that could rid the World of them.
"where one side may shoot down the other side’s plane"
Uuuh, that already happened.
We (NATO) already shot down a Russian fighter and didn't even appologize.
We suck ass.
War is good, right? The casino's should love all this.
"3,000 years into the future,"
The Statue of Liberty is made of copper. 3000 years of exposure to salt air and I doubt there'd be much left of her.
Don't worry the human slaves revolt and overthrow their ape overlords in the end.
but that was pretty much just a movie.
we've reelected our last two ape overlords (and don't they both look particularly simian?).
Under international law israeli settlement building is illegal as is their race based demolition of homes.
Bombing hospitals and power stations and sewage treatment facilities is also a no no.
But 40+ years and tens of billions of dollars from Uncle Sugar later - one must concede that "international law" is a farce summoned by the us and allies to murder, rape, and pillage as they please.
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=75c_1449001183
And you're engaging in hate speech if you object.
How right you are! He's a traitor!
And Bush II.
And Clinton.
And Bush I.
And Reagan.
All Traitors...or too stupid (Bush I) or Alzheimered (Reagan) to figure it out.
The old ones are gone and don't count anymore; two wrongs don't make a right.
Obie is CinC and has had 7 years to stop this shit; only to have made it worse.
It's now officially "Obama's Fault"
Nonsense. Obama is still mired in the mess that he inherited (not defending Obama). Poppie Bush started the war for Israel in 91. Reagan got 263 marines blown up in 83, when he cut and ran from Lebanon. These were wars for Israel, and our hegemony over the Middle East. As much as I despise Obama, I can not let your dim-witted explanation go unanswered.
History ends after 7 years. How simple minded are you?
Obama is worse than Bush. First he turned Libya into a chaotic failed state! All on his own. Then two years later, he tried to attack Syria by lobbing cruise missiles over the Russian Navy. Only the good sense of the British and French to back down from such madness saved the world from nuclear war. Now, Obama's pushing again to launch a war against Assad but this time, he's trying to do it slowly, but allowing ISIS to grow at first so as to justify invading Syria to 'contain' it. Well that ain't going to fly with the Russians so now where back at the brink of nuclear war. All because ZIONIST TRAITORS run our government and have installed the puppet Obama as president. The only thing that will stop Obama is if the US military tells him to get the hell out of Syria. Otherwise, the US airforce will be shot down by the Russians over the sovereign country of Syria. Then the US will escalate with it's Navy, and their planes will be shot out of the sky by the Russian over Syria. Finally Israel may try to attack Assad, and the Russians will shoot down their planes and those of Turkey. That is assuming both sides can contain their nukes This is sheer madness on the part of the Ziocons. The Russians are not backing down. The Ziocons may not care because their only goal is to destroy the abillity of Syria to be a functioning state.
Eventually enough Americans will wake up.
This is way beyond who lives in the White House.
Obama is a low-life, mutherfucking cocksucker.
Now that we have that out of the way...The American people have always been manipulated by their leaders. We (Americans) are still being manipulated. The stakes are higher than ever.
Do not fall for the 2 party DIVIDE AND CONQUER horseshit.
Impossible to rely on any American electronic media. American print media is 99% co-opted, and 1% free. And if free media pushes too hard, send flowers to their services.
Whichever sociopath or clown gets in in 2017, it will be nothing more than a new front-man.
You do, however, make far more sense than I was willing to give you credit for. It is the false Dem/Rep; Liberal/Conservative narrative that our "leaders" use to manipulate us that leads me to make false assumptions.
I don't think there's a need to argue about who's been worserer.
Every single USSA teleprompter-in-chief since JFK has been/ is a Zionist bloodhound on a very short leash...
With the possible exception of Nixon, funnily enough. But he apparently got the "continuity of government" thing going, which has been ruling ever since.
And Bush II...that motherfucker started up (or let start up) Operation Gladio again, with 9/11. Part of the reason Kennedy was killed was likely that he shut it down. Well, he at least moved it to Europe, even if he failed to shut it down.
That stunned mullet look on Bush's face when he was told about the first plane hitting the WTC, I suspect he was thinking something along the lines of "jesus, they actually fucking did it", followed closely by "does that make me JFK II"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA-rgKBq7Ss
Don't say he wasn't warned !
Becuz he was a Tape worm in past life, I think
& now too he is screwing the whole world
and as a homo his fate is either to burning hell
or as a tape worm again
Hah ha
Eisenhower had a talking tapeworm. They talked about things in general.
Stash away the duct tape. Don't use it, stash it away and that pre-measured plastic sheeting for future -- and I emphasize future use, ... [You] probably won't need it, but in case you do, you'll have it available."
Tom Ridge, Homeland Security 2003
THE FUTURE IS NOW!!!
Nobody wants nuclear war, not even Illuminati Zionist Right-Wing Creepo Fascist Pinko Commie Pigs. There's no Planet B - post nuclear war, there's nothing left to take over.
The threat of nuclear war is nothing more than another tool governments use to intimidate their own populations into letting the security establishments operate without restraint, restriction, oversight or accountability.
Not a war then. Just a couple of hits so we all get the message. Let's go with that.
Zionist would cheer a nuclear war they won. Sick sociopaths.
Don't be stupid, you'd cheer if you won too.
Wait, let's define winning. Does it include radiation poisoning?
If so, I'd rather lose.
Fuck man, FUCK.
I'm buying more Lugol's tomorrow. Thank you, ASSHOLE, for reminding me of inevitability.
Not so. The neocons actually believe that they could win a war using a pre-emptive nuclear strike and this, according to multiple reports, is an option available to the US. God help us all.
Never understood this thinking.
OK total surprise all targets hit ... then the target nations nuclear reactors go critical and pollute the Earth from pole to pole.
See, you got it all wrong. The trick is to bomb your own country. Nobody would stop that.
The ole leaving the keys on the dash in a bad part of town trick.
when I search on "keys on the dash in a bad part of town" I get information about Chrysler Town & Country minivans. How weird is that?
Country A launches in surprise attack.
Country B knows of launches moments after they occur
The element of surprise is non-existent. Please don't listen to trip such as that. It's called sword rattling.
I didn't believe you, so I checked ... and DANG if you're not right. That's just comical.
Excellent observation.
We have created machines that require constant human care in order not to destroy the whole earth. Any major nuclear war will make all those reactor go critical in no time.
This is so obvious. I simply wonder if someone in the pentagram realise it.
Neocons haven't been competent enough to succeed at anything YET. Anyone believe they can successfully pull off a first strike on Russia w/o the United States sustaining massive damage in return? I guess the loss of NYC, Tampa, Chicago, Seattle, LA is a tiny price to pay to satisfy the neocon dream of crushing Russia finally.
They risk the bet that the opponent won't pull the trigger, even if they do.
It may turn out to be one of these bets that they didn't win.
What about the bible thumping rapture types? surly they cheer it...
Must be why that COG mole hole is in CO, eh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNi6GJoN8HM
Lets hope no one fogets the script and goes rogue or miscalculates.
Sanity Bear
It is insane to believe there is no real danger because it is supposedly just harmless bluster.
You "don't always get what you want".
Many are willing to risk war thinking the other side will back down.
There are accidents, mistakes, misinterpretation of "threat" severity, either by or toward others.
There are entangling alliances with irrational client regimes.
And, some actually DO want war thinking it will be limited or "contained" and their side will be "victorious". (Millions of deaths and vast destruction OK so long as "our side wins".)
"...The tribe wants us to wipe each other out, so they can take over more openly...."
Even if you make this in the context of Israeli Right-wingers, you would be wrong to say that they want the people they exploit to be wiped out. You're also wrong to say that they want to take over. They don't like running things if they can help it - that's for little people to take care of themselves. They want control - obedience to their will - and whatever resources you have that they might find useful.
Case in point: Iraqi oil. Israel wants an uninterrupted flow of cheap Iraqi oil to Haifa. Iraq still kind of hates them and won't sell it to them, so the Israelis are leveraging a none-existant (or weak at best) Kurdish independence movement. Even though no such independence has been granted, U.S. and U.K. oil companies have gone to the bought-and-paid-for KRG officials (the Barzani clan) and drew up contracts AS IF they were dealing with an independent Kurdistan. The Israelis had British commandos guarding the Kirkuk-to-Haifa pumping stations during the gulf war AS IF and independent Kurdistan existed and they would be selling oil to Israel. Turkey is shippiing oil through their pipeline to Ceyhan AS IF it was Kurdish soverign oil. The Turks will be abandoned as soon as the Kirkuk-Haifa pipeline is open.
This is going to cause a problem with Iraq, who - as far as anyone can tell - has not granted independence to the Kurds and have not told them they could take all the land and oil they wanted when they left. The long-range plan by the U.S. and Israel was ALWAYS to cut Iraq apart, taking the northern oil lands for themselves. Al Qaeda was imported to keep the Iraqi Sunni-Shia wars going on forever, weakening them both. What the U.S. and Israel didn't count on is that the Shia (oppressed by Saddams Baathists) were damn tough fighters when it came to their own homes and land. Same with Sunnis. What you can't do is force either one to participate in a unified state army that has neither of their best interests at heart. The U.S. failed (and always will fail) to impose any kind of Western-styled unified army on Iraq.
No problem for the Kirkuk-Haifa pipeline because the Sunnis were weak and disorganized - they could be controlled. If you upgraded fake al Qaeda to your own fake ISIS, you have a much, much more control over the Sunnis and you can get them to protect your pipeline. Better yet, you can now mount a force to beat back those pesky Shia militias from the south and east. The U.S. fucked up again by misinterpreting the Sunni and Shia unwillingness to join an Iraqi national army as an unwillingness to fight. Turns out that Sunni hate ISIS as much as Shia hate ISIS. They can forget about killing each other if there is a common enemy in front of them threatening their homes and land. In case anyone hasn't noticed, they have - as a separate but cooperating force - been unstoppable in Iraq. The Iraqi army is almost a sidekick. They bring usefull toys, but the Sunni and Shia militias are the ones actually kicking ass. Sometimes whether the Iraqi state army shows up or not. The militias don't NEED the Iraqi state army to participate, but they will out of convenience if they show up.
This is a horrible development for Israel, the Gulf States and the U.S. - the dreaded total loss of control of your puppet state's military, and their replacement by people who are just defending their homes and towns, not 'the nation'. Worse yet, the Sunni are willingly and enthusiastically helping the Shia take back Shia villages, and the Shia are helping Sunnis take back their villages. The whole 'eternal chaos' plan goes to shit if you can't keep the Iraqi Sunni and Shia at each other's throats. This wasn't suppose to happen!
Time for stuipid-assed Israeli/U.S. Plan B: arm up the Kurds (well, Barzani's KRG thugs, anyway) and start to demonize 'the rest' of Iraq as nothing but a puppet of Iran. If everyone starts loving the Kurds (the fake Barzani Kurds) and hating the Iraqis (because they're Iran-lovers), then the stage will be set for the Kurdish Spring and demands for their independence. The Iraqi Kurds are split into several factions now, so they couldn't even agree on what a unfied Kurdistan would look like. They like the idea of a unified Kurdistan, but they are years away from political unification. Most of them will not be thrilled about dying in battle for Barzani's mobster Kurdistan. And someone is going to have to die because if the Sunnis and Shia in Iraq are cooperating, then you have a damn formidable military coming to take back their oil fields.
The point of this whole screed was that the planned U.S./Israeli Iraqi land theft via a fake Kurdish independence WILL ABSOLUTELY INVOLVE American troops and one hell of a lot of them. Watch how much energy the MSM has suddenly put into demonizing Iraq as just a big gang of Shia militia loyal to Iran. Tyler has said as much. It's bullshit and it sticks out like a sore thumb as bullshit because the 'little people' in Iraq - the Sunni and Shia - are coming together and fighting a common cause (ISIS today) without anyone controlling them. Iraqi Shia are obviously friendly with their Shia neighbors in Iran and love the military support, but Iraqi Shia are not being controlled by Iran.
New MSM narrative: 1) Iraqis are all crazy Shia militia working for Iran - we must create a reason to attack and subdue them. 2) Iraqi Sunni are all in cahoots with ISIS - we need to create a reason to attack and subdue them. 3) Mob Boss Barzani represents the will of all Iraqi Kurds, and we must help him carve off as many Iraqi oil wells as possible before we start the war to create an independent Kurdistan (whether the God damn Kurds want it or not).
Until recently, I had just wrote Iraq off as hopeless. Watching the Shia and Sunni cooperate to fight fake ISIS was surprising in a good way. The Shia milita and Iraqi government telling the U.S. to fuck off is actually inspiring. I honestly have hope for them to build a viable nation now. If the Kurds realize how they're being played and refuse to die in a fake U.S./Israeli-orchestrated war of independence (to steal their oil), then the psychopaths may actually end up losing this one.
The worse part of this is watching the MSM start to shamelessly whore Plan B for their .gov masters while everyone remains oblivious to the overall scheme.
TLDNR. (Too long did not read)
Nice avatar though!
I'll probably go back and read it just for your effort ... EDIT HERE: okay, I read it.
When the following happens: "Watch how much energy the MSM has suddenly put into demonizing Iraq as just a big gang of Shia militia loyal to Iran." I will give your position the credibility your ideas deserve.
Don't bother, DiaV. You answered your own question: Long=probably Stoopit.
If you can't clarify the deception, driving motives and the failed, misguided and downright treasonous policies of a decaying nation that might eventually lead us to stumble into nuclear war... if you can't do that IN A 40 CHARACTER TWEET, then fuck it. Why bother?
Anything more is well beyond the attention span of 98% of Americans and will be ignored, anyways. Yawp! TLDNR...
Paveway, I think you are wrong. As long as Israel is not affected by a dircect nuke, then the Ziocons don't fear a world wide nuclear war. The Zioncons can't lose because if they lose, they will get hung by the people in the West, just as any corrupt set of rulers eventually gets overthrown. Also they know that if say, half of the US is destroyed, they will control the other half more than twice as much; in otherwords, the surviving US will be a police state in lockdown mode where goy life will be as life is in Syria or Iraq. The only thing they care about is Israel. Russia knows this and has positioned dozens of nukes next to Israel permanently in the guise of their fleet ships and subs now parked off the coast of Israel. When they decide to pull the triggier and unleash the nukes, the first targets hit will be Dimona and Tel Aviv. The entire length and breadth of Israel will be a radioactive wasteland. They want Israel to know this and they want the Ziocons to know this. The Russians are not stupid like the Americans. And the Russians now view Israel and it's puppet the US as the new Hitlerian facist regimes. They got rid of the Zionist banksters who tried to steal mother Russia in the 1990's. And the Soviet communist jews who were embedded in the KGB have left Russia and are generally involved in international crime. The Russians detest them too. The Russians are prepared to lose 30 to 40 milllion and still go on but they plan to do this only after completely destroying the US, Nato countries (all of them, every last one of them), and Israel. The Russians will strike if they have to, if the US/Nato attacks them in Syria, and the way the west/Israel is pushing them, they will have to pull the trigger on their nukes IF the west/Israel does not get out of Syria. Of course first they will declare a no fly zone over Syria and then start shooting down US/Israel/Nato planes. When that happens, the nukes are getting prepared to launch. The only thing that can stop this madness is if the US military takes over the government, but after 911, the US military was complicit in the murder of 3K Americans, so I'm not that hopeful sanity will prevail.
Max - "As long as Israel is not affected by a dircect nuke, then the Ziocons don't fear a world wide nuclear war." Just before Sept. 30, one of these was announced to be cruising just off shore.
Does anyone recall that several (15?) years ago Foreign Affairs published an article by two US experts saying that through advances in weapons technology the US had attained the capability to launch a "successful" pre-emptive nuclear strike against Russia and China simultaneously ?
FA, "the voice of the US foreign policy establishment" informs the thinking of the neocon milieu that that controls the men who have access to the button.
Above ground nuclear detonations are now so long in the past that to most Americans they are but an abstraction.
Excellent post - this is why I come to ZH! Many thanks!
Dagnabbit Paveway, another "worth the price of admission" posting!
And so too many of the comments that followed. Keep up the excellent work everyone, the steeple have to wake up eventually... (sigh) oh well, dare to dream...
She's of Indian descent, and is a Hindu. So the fact that she's not an indigenous American likely explains her intelligence, reason, good sense and her beauty....
That's kind of a left-handed compliment.
I want to say - Thanks Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard for thinking of the people the country and humanity in general.
This is the plan, obvioulsy, other wise there is no need for this type of bullshit. Once you know the playbook there is no need to discuss elections or any of that garbage. I'd recommend watching on youtube JFK to 9/11.
"Under International law, Syria is a Sovereign State with a democratically elected leader"
Not to mention that election was also agreed to by 50 Nations after it occurred. Minor details with the Criminal Psychopaths.
Democracy From the Left:
Democracy is a civic class at high school indoctrination.
If you go to Harvard and the topic of democracy comes up, the state capitalist ruling elites will call it Crisis of Democracy.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Crisis-Democracy-Governability-Democracies/dp/0814713653
Democracy From the Right:
Norman J. Ornstein : The Republican Party has become a radical insurgency – ideologically extreme, scornful of facts and compromise, and dismissive of the legitimacy
https://www.amacad.org/content/publications/pubContent.aspx?d=1057
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/22/if-windows-crashes-wwiii/
The nature of electronics, automation and bugs make this very much more dangerous than anyone can evaluate. The probability calculations to understand the possible meanings of failures are rather difficult for deep experts in a quiet server room even if offline. In a war zone, mistakes are likely.
Our military has avoided nuclear war because of the good sense of individual officers more than a few times.
Activities in war zones have lead to war on many occasions. We should expect that, even if nobody is hung over or drugged up and everything works right, mistakes happen.
Militaries are far too dangerous to allow as part of your country, countries that have militaries have wars. Countries that have militias, not so much.
American Global Empire only recognises vassals. Anyone not bowing in obeisance to Washington is to be destroyed
thats why Congress Constitutionally is supposed to vote to "declare war' before going to war. Way past time for somebody to whip out the Constitution
No worries, I wear titanium dioxide sunscreen.
If Ms. Gabbard were President I'd volunteer for her Secret Service detail 'cause she'd need all the protection she could get.
I'd volunteer for reasons other than the above....
She is the only leader up there.
Who knows, maybe she'll get enlisted to run. Aside from Deez Nutz, the rest of them are bums.
I'm getting deja vu all over again. Then we'll find out she never went to Columbia and no one can find her bc.
I hope she's the real deal and I always knew Obummer was bogus.
Seriously. F'ck Obama. F that mother f'cker to Hell...
435 representatives and 100 senators and only one representative, Tulsi Gabbard, is warning of nuclear war with Russia? Are all the other US politicians owned by the Neocons?
Mostly, yes. Just as most are owned by some combination of the NRA, NAACP, AARP, Big Ag and Big Oil.
It's really hard not to just take the money.
Ownership isn't complete though money won't matter if they end the earth and that's why I think we'll see some more of this because agreeing to go along with things in a relatively safe stable zone that you have is one thing, possibly staring at ending human life on earth could change the equation rather quickly.
I reallize some people think they can win that type of a war and maybe they can I don't think it can be won especially with subs that can salvo you years after just when you crawl out and start to rebuild.
It's pure madness to think that could work. Then again what do I know?
You actually think there is intelligent life on this planet? Warren Buffet supporting Hillary. What more can be said.
The NRA would not have to lobby if the f'in D's would respect their oath of office.
I think they just like to threaten to stir up the gimme base and to dilute the lobbying money on the right.
What a post! Everyone with a brain knows Obama's short comings but what about the rest of the aholes?????? Republicans included. I think this woman is a gift to all of us.
I'm tired with all these threats. Just do it.
You might get your wish.
Don't take the rest of the world with you on your suicidal ideation.
Yeah, who needs the world anyway..........
Slow down pal, the world is where I keep all my stuff.
"
You are important person. Your time more important than to waste.
Do not wait! Go, go, drink poison now!
Gee, they say that like it would be a bad thing for the military industrial complex. It would ease the strain on the food supply, with less people in the world there would be less oil consumed so less climate change. If they do it in the middle east it would turn all that sand into glass so we could strap some fatback on our feet and skate across the land.
meh, what's a little Cesium between friends.
"We Irradiated some folks".
Only fitting for Mr Chalky the Muslim Nobel Peace Prize winner.....He won't be happy until we all get a case of the Slims.
And people said Bush was bad...
Well Obama has brought us to the nuclear precipice with Russia and unleashed the ISIS (whatever the hell ISIS is).
Race relations haven't been worse since the 60's and 70's.
And the economy is so weak that .25% raise in the FED borrowing rate threatens to send our economy into full fledged depression.
Income inequality has never been higher.
Corporations leaving in droves through inversions.
And his concern is....global warming? At a time Antarctica is actually growing more ice than it's losing.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Nailed it
Healthcare system collapsing
Sky rocketing cost of education (while test scores are going down)
Crumbling infrastructure
Mishandling refugee crisis.
Boom. Boom. Boom.
At least we're debt free
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffin' glue.
You guys all forgot about 9/11, the definitive proof of our deep state and its ownership of MSM, the driver of all the wars.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/28/nsas-capabilities-have-nev...
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/30/the-next-false-flag/
That fact that Team Obummer was not interested in 9/11 or the phony WMD war in Iraq was the simplest confirmation, early on that Obummer was just more of the same. That he came out of nowhere and the lack of a bc were just confirmation of confirmation. Well done David Axelrod, by some accounts a relative of Trotsky.
Through chaos comes order.
He is doing as instructed.
...and some of this is hitting close to home...
After 42 years in medicine it is coming to the point where medical practice can't be made to work.
With all the fixed costs it is not even possible to work for free. If you have an office, staff, malpractice insurance etc then you must clear a certain amount just to keep the doors open. I'm getting close to the point where it is not.
And it sucks because I'm good and I still enjoy the work.
A lot of patients are skipping appointments or stretching them way out.
...and once you do have a practice...if you don't make that 'nut'...congrats...you are now paying for the privilege of being a doctor.
I truly sympathize. A few years ago I went to a plastic surgeon to remove a large surgical adhesion that was causing discomfort. My insurance wouldn't cover the cost because I wasn't disabled. It took me years to save up the $9k. It had to be paid in full before the procedure. This was the best experience of my life and the after care was stellar. When I wrote a glowing review for his office I realized referrals were the life blood of his business. He was surviving without insurance or government subsidies.
I realize this model can't be completely adopted for all care but if we all had to be personally responsible for our day to day healthcare and insurance was used for catastrophic events, things may be better for you.
Miffed
Yup. And this behind the scenes stuff is why we missed you. Thanx.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilcRS5eUpwk
just because
‘And the economy is so weak’
How is your personal economy?? If you got some extra moola, get ready for the False Flag.
Buy yellow magnetic ribbons and plastic flags. After the False Flag, sling that crap at street corners for profit.
That's because you're completely delusional. You were talking sense until your last point. Climate change will -- among many other things -- destroy farmable land in Central America and send refugees north by the dozens of millions. If you don't think climate change poses a threat to America and its interests, you don't deserve to be taken seriously.
You're changing the narrative. The narrative is "global warming" not "climate change" because that's what the climate does....it changes. By saying "climate change" you're going to be right if it gets hotter or colder and with or without humans on this planet the Earth is going to get hotter and colder.
The planet has had at least 5 ice ages (http://geology.utah.gov/map-pub/survey-notes/glad-you-asked/ice-ages-wha...). The last ice age being around 12,000 years ago. Last I checked we weren't driving around in pick up trucks 12,000 years ago emitting carbon dioxide (which is something all of us do to breathe) and also something plants use as food. The entire narrative is false to begin with unless you can blame humans on the previous 12,000 years of the planet warming after the last ice age. Ever thought that maybe the process that started 12,000 years ago is simply....continuing?
The reason the government is scaring the shit out of you is for two reasons: i. taxes, ii. regulation/control.
The government simply scares the shit out of people (for any reason, check red meat it apparently now causes cancer so guess where taxes are getting raised next). The government has to scare people and vilify things in order to gain acceptance from the people to have taxes raised and to usurp additional power.
If you can't vilify it you can't tax it or regulate it...at least not easily. And as we know the government wants to tax EVERYTHING including the air coming out of your lungs (otherwise known as carbon dioxide.)
Yep,,,only climate change advocates can be taken seriously. Anyone disagreeing will be spat upon and cursed. Science in the 21st century,,, Believe!! or STFU.
Uhmmmm, I believe that's the idea. How else are they going to get the population levels down to 500mill?
I was kind of hoping they would weaponize Ebola, that's some fun right there......
The problem with weaponizing microbes is they lose killing potential as they are diluted from the original exposure. Yeah, you'll get a nasty hot spot but the kill zone will naturally decrease. Some of the nasty influenzas and other RNA viruses with human to human transmission do look more promising but that does have the potential for a nuclear war of the biological kind. The beauty of weaponizing select agents is their terror potential in a population. Just telling a person he has Ascaris which has wandered throughout his body can turn a burly man as white as a sheet.
I've isolated hundreds of select agents over the course of my career. What used to be tossed in the incinerator is now monitored by the federal government because of fanatical fear. A pain in the ass on many levels.
Miffed
Good to see you back! Hey, can a person catch HIV from a mosquito? If not...why the fuck not? Thanks! I guess I should clarify that I use a rubber with all mosquitos.
And it's great to see you too!
Hmmm, to answer your question. Well, a man came to me in a frothy tizzy and asked "Can you get GC from a toilet seat?" I replied, though possible, I would not personally find that area appealing for great sex.
So, as long as you keep Anopheles anuses to a strict minimum and carefully screen future partners, I believe you will be fine.
Miffed;-)
We can rebuild before they can!!!
No time to punk out now!
I'm not going to worship on Putin I don't know the man and for all I know he's a total NWO tool but what he did in Syria is basically hilarious well unless you factor in that he just basically kicked sand in our face which is always a touchy thing to do to a bunch of people who actually live for pissing contests.
I think anyone sane left is about to slowly then quickly come to the realization that many of us already have come to, namely that OMG they are seriously going to do this and I agreed to be bought off yes but I never agreed to end the world and kill my entire family along with it.
So if Putin isn't a tool of the NWO then what he did is basically he just bet the world on the world figuring some things out and being un ok with it fast enough to stop this OR
He's in on it too.
Interesting times.
I guess you need to stop paying your mortgage.
I don't believe the propaganda that he is another NWO stooge - same for Hitler. I think this is diinformation.
It is a conspiracy theory that he is a NWO stooge. No MSM outlet is claiming that.
Neither do I. He is standing up for the survival of Russia. And this is why the Anglo-Zionists hate his guts - they lost Russia!? Putin stole it from them right under their noses!
Remember the narrative that the "exceptional nation" single-handedly destroyed the Soviet Union? Well not quite. The Soviet Union mostly collapsed under the weight of its own internal contradictions. Which is exactly what is happening NOW with the US led Empire of Chaos. The parallels are unmistakable. As Saker points out, we are living in the "Brezhnev era" for the West! Centrally planned economy with no "markets" to be found - nothing but rigged casinos left. Same as the Soviets. And the MSM? Who the hell believes them anymore! Nothing but shills for the ruling 0.01% Ango-Zionist NWO bankster elite. Oh the irony!
whats a house democrate.............is that like a house nigga
Love this woman's courage
She does a killer roast pig too......
No she doesn't. Maybe a mango-lasse w/ samosas. She's a Hindu.
Ahhh wait awhile. Courage does not mean what it used to mean. Just ask Bernanke.
see you all on the barren wasteland
dodging the lobstrosities at the ruined coasts
Really, y'all. She's just a diversion. And doesn't mean shit, at least for NOW.
Magic Mulatto is in a trick bag. He wants to be a good little progrssive liberal scumbag but the neocons keep squeezing his nuts
At least it won't be a Nukular war........
May cooler heads and peaceful hearts prevail. Enough madness. It's time for global healing. Truth and reconciliation. People like Erdrogan are basically children in adult bodies. They need to have their power taken from them. Leniency for those who in good faith offer truth toward reconciliation which will include their loss of power. To the rest justice may be swift and merciless. May god help us all.
Given that the people that have their fingers on the nuke buttons are chickenshits, I will push the nuke buttons for transportation costs, & a pack of smokes. Now that's a good deal IMHO.
If he Euros had any balls at all they'd kick US troops out of their countries and send our nukes with them ...but they are part of it, gutless, suicidal. The leadership is fascist. They call it NATO.
The Russians will only be defensive in case you haven't noticed but pushed they will shove.
It it comes to war the Chinese will lick the spoon.
Age of Aquarius anyone.
bill
It's the one of the scenarios of "The Fourth Turning"
www.burningplatform.com
Rep. from Hawaii liable to have a surfing accident, if not careful.
The man shoots himself in the foot everytime he gets involved in something, Either vote him out or shut up already, does not know how to go about anything, he should go back to Chicago to plead speeding tickets in court, this is and always has been over his head.
Iraq got it right, Assad should say the same
Western intelligence gots brain-fucked by leaders like Obama or Cameron. Inofficially they're going to ally with Al Nusra, Ahrar al Sham which predominantly fight against the Syrian government and their respective supporters.
Therefore, Camerons pledge that opponents to bombing missions are 'supporters of terrorism' is quite hard to swallow. Furthermore, supporting these forces like UK MPs seem willing, will put the US, the UK and most likely Germany as well in a position against Syrian armed forces and Russia.
May I have a match for this powder keg?
it will not be good to be a non Russian pilot shot down over Syria or Iraq.... who will come to save you? it's only 50% chance of survival for Russian pilots now
It's important to remember, when assessing the US rulers' motives in the Middle East, that the nation is no longer merely a nation. It is an empire, and empires answer to a higher call. Empires' rulers are megalomaniacs - psychopaths at a extraordinarily advanced level. They really aren't bound by any of the conventions of civilisation. As I noted in a comment posted on a ZH thread last week one day, they claim - and genuinely believe - that they have a "right to kill" anybody who stands in their way, and to destroy any community they choose to destroy.
Once we understand that, the American Deep State's utter disregard for humanity makes sense - although "sense" is probably not a suitable word to use in the circumstances...
http://barlowscayman.blogspot.com/2013/07/empires-on-go.html
Iraq and Iran have the correct feelings towards USA - FICK OFF
USA is a pile of feces
Didn't Russia whine about U.S. missile defense in Yurrip to which Obama put his tail between his legs and pulled the missiles out of Poland and other areas?
Jesus H. This pacifist asswipe of a president is getting ridiculous.
Spends more time thinking about basketball brackets and golf than doing anything of consequence.
"What is surprising is not that a Democrat will stand in the way of a neocon "liberal" president, who changes his political spots on a daily basis, depending entirely on the direction where the money is blowing"...
You mean there is only one Tulsi Gabbard in the entire House of Representatives that wants to challenge the cloven hoofed white monkey from the third layer of Hell?!!...
Russia fucking cut down every American plane and ship that even tries to put a "target lock" on your aircraft! You knew this day was coming 2 years ago...
I thought when these kids protested in 2013, the only honorable thing to do on their behalf was meeting with Congressional "fucks" in there offices while Al Qaeda and ISIS/ISIL were having picnic(s) on the Capitol lawn (by the way I kid you not that happened) I thought we were getting as close to WWIII then as we could be...
Now here we are and all the American lemmings are prepared to do 2 years later and many hundreds of thousands more dead and displaced since 2013 is to Xmas shop and watch football games and let Congress do whatever they decide!!!
Rubber body bags and "Dover" here we come... And what a welcome site that will be for the remaining gene pool in the U.S. MIC to think about it!!!
When you think about it. The Europeans took all the land from the Native Americans with no remorse. Now these morons are going to give the Native Americans land to the Arabs. There is no sane intelligence in this country so to expect sanity is insane. I hope the liberal nutcases in power are the first ones to be beheaded.
Yes indeed Chuck. Well said.
And I might add to my prior comment(s) about Ms. Tulsi the "surfer girl" that if she is ex-military given everything she saw when she served "honorably" in Iraq if she truly gives a fuck about not starting WWIII she might teach the boyz and girlz in uniform to recite the code(s) in the UCMJ that they have been violating in uniform every day since she served that treason is still treason and that book will go along way to correcting the problem if law makers in Washington like herself speak to it and the U.S. Constitution in mantra form the way the "white chimp" and his predecessors use the word(s) terror, terrorists and terrorism in repitition to successfully brain wash the "sheeple"...
Perhaps if she repeats the violations that U.S. service personnel have committed in that "war on terror" since 2001 she can reverse the damage!... One can only hope!!!
Concentrate on a Corrupt Congress, giving this Congresswoman some help.
She hasn't given up; neither should you.
She isn't playing politics; neither should you.
She's talking Principles; so should you.
Or is all of that too uninteresting?
"The Changing Face of War: Into the Fourth Generation"
this article/paper was written in aug/09 shortly after the ussa left iraq and subsequently built up an unpresidented occupying force in afpak.
obama carried baby`bush's torch of a christian crusade against the evil islamist radicals while still both bush's and obama are in bed with saudis today.
fucking amazing!
america has spent on average $1 Triillion / year since 2001 on the DOD military extravaganza which include f-35/ f-22 etel that can't do a fucking thing against a 'Fourth Generation War'.
space war and star war fantasies for killing mosquitoes...[?], WTF!!!
check this out:
http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/lind/the-changing-face-of-war-into-the-fourth-generation.html
In the event of a Nuclear War... All surviving Politicians will be Hung.. and we can toss in a few Bankers and MIC people to boot
Ms Gabard shows more common sense and courage than the rest of the congress and administration combined. The problem is that somehow the neocons will take her down, just a matter of time.
Obama does not have the balls to stand up to a modest wind, forget about standing against the vipers nest of neocons in state and in his nat security office. Carter is certifiable: he wanted to nuc N korea under clinton admin and the s koreans said WTF is with this idiot. obama just has a way of layering in neocon after neocon-they must have been dancing in the streets after the turk shoot down of russian plane.
we will meet again: our leaders are mad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgGAjmszdq8
You know I am going to get a hail of down arrows for this but I think he passive agressively does that sometimes I thought that the last time the drums of war were for bombing Syria.
He so botched the effort to rally the charge on that I halfway thought at the time that maybe he was just running some interference on the issue.
Let the red arrows fly :)
War solves domestic economic problems for Democrats. War validates Republican and neo-con fantasies of American exceptionalism. War proves their arguments. Losing the war validates their insanity.
What an eloquent paragraph helping along the increasingly dangerous ignorance of this-team-vs-that-team.
Western capitalism is beset with immense structural economic problems- stagnant/declining economies, characterized by a sclerotic manufacturing base, high unemployment, coupled with anemic job growth, austerity, poverty and skyrocketing debt. The response to these problems has been to: 1) flood banks with ultra cheap money (aka Central Bank QE) which has propped up (still) insolvent banks and inflated assets- stock market and trendy real estate in SF, NYC and Boston, and provide lots for funds for subprime auto loans, and 2) engage in an increasingly reckless and bellicose foreign policy, directly threatening Russia and China. All along, the US/NATO/GCC goal in Syria has been regime change, using Turkey (a US vassal state) as a conduit to shuttle anti-Syrian troops and supplies to attack Syrian government forces and terrorize the local population; this goal remains alive and well, Paris notwithstanding. It appears that Syria will be ground zero for a US- Russia showdown. This begs the question, is Obama/US ruling elite willing to risk a nuclear war with Russia and China over Syria? I will leave that to White House for a response.
"I will leave that to White House for a response."
Ah, good for you to feed the trend, by neglecting the design.
And you're a "Philly" guy... there's some irony there.
The white house only responds after the horse has shit. So why would you wait for another response?
They even have Turkey allying with Ukraine and merging defence industries. How Germany will cope with Turkish and Ukrainian refugees when the full meltdown comes is not clear