Murder And Mayhem In The Middle East (Why It Matters To Those Living In The West)

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To understand what’s happening in Syria right now, you have to understand the tactics and motivations of the US and NATO -- parties sharing interwoven aims and goals in the Middle East/North African (MENA) region.

While the populations of Europe and the US are fed raw propaganda about the regional aims involved, the reality is far different.

Where the propaganda claims that various bad dictators have to be taken out, or that democracy is the goal, neither have anything at all to do with what’s actually happening or has happened in the region.

For starters, we all know that if oil fields were not at stake then the West would care much much less about MENA affairs.

But a lot of outside interests do care. And their aims certainly and largely include controlling the region’s critical energy resources. There’s a lot of concern over whether Russia or China will instead come to dominate these last, best oil reserves on the planet.

Further, we can dispense with the idea that the US and NATO have any interest at all in human rights in this story. If they did, then they’d at least have to admit that their strategies and tactics have unleashed immeasurable suffering, as well as created the conditions for lots more. But it would be silly to try and argue about or understand regional motivations through the lenses of human rights or civilian freedoms -- as neither applies here.

Divide And Conquer

Instead, the policies in the MENA region are rooted in fracturing the region so that it will be easier to control.

That’s a very old tactic; first utilized to a great extent by Britain starting back in the 1700s. 

Divide and conquer. There’s a reason that’s a well-worn catch phrase: it’s hundreds of years old.

But to get a handle on the level of depravity involved, I think it useful to examine what happened in Libya in 2011 when NATO took out Muamar Gaddafi and left the country a broken shell -- as was intended.

I cannot really give you a good reason for NATO involving itself in taking out Gaddafi. I only have bad ones.

The official reason was that after the Arab Spring uprising in Libya in early 2011 (with plenty of evidence of Western influences in fanning those flames) things got ugly and protesters were shot. This allowed the UN to declare that it needed to protect civilians, and the ICC to charge Gaddafi with crimes against humanity, declaring that he needed to stand trial.

Here’s how it went down:

On 27 June, the ICC issued arrest warrants for Gaddafi, his son Saif al-Islam, and his brother-in-law Abdullah Senussi, head of state security, for charges concerning crimes against humanity.[268] Libyan officials rejected the ICC, claiming that it had "no legitimacy whatsoever" and highlighting that "all of its activities are directed at African leaders".[269]


That month, Amnesty International published their findings, in which they asserted that many of the accusations of mass human rights abuses made against Gaddafist forces lacked credible evidence, and were instead fabrications of the rebel forces which had been readily adopted by the western media. 


After the ICC's indictment, it was a hop, skip and a jump to declaring a NATO-enforced ‘no fly zone’ over Libya to protect civilians.

From there it was just a straight jump to NATO actively shooting anything related to the Gaddafi government. NATO had thereby chosen sides and was directly supporting the rebellion.

The pattern in play here is always the same: cherry-picked events are used as a pretext to support the side seeking to topple the existing government and thereby leave a sectarian wasteland to flourish in the inevitable power vacuum.

If you are like most people in the West, you know almost nothing of any of this context. It’s not well reported. And Libya is rarely in the news even though it's going through increasingly desperate times.

I found a speech given by Gaddafi a few months before he was killed to be especially compelling and revealing. I will reproduce it in its entirety here:

For 40 years, or was it longer, I can't remember, I did all I could to give people houses, hospitals, schools, and when they were hungry, I gave them food. I even made Benghazi into farmland from the desert, I stood up to attacks from that cowboy Reagan, when he killed my adopted orphaned daughter, he was trying to kill me, instead he killed that poor innocent child. Then I helped my brothers and sisters from Africa with money for the African Union. 


I did all I could to help people understand the concept of real democracy, where people's committees ran our country. But that was never enough, as some told me, even people who had 10 room homes, new suits and furniture, were never satisfied, as selfish as they were they wanted more. They told Americans and other visitors, that they needed "democracy" and "freedom" never realizing it was a cut throat system, where the biggest dog eats the rest, but they were enchanted with those words, never realizing that in America, there was no free medicine, no free hospitals, no free housing, no free education and no free food, except when people had to beg or go to long lines to get soup.


No, no matter what I did, it was never enough for some, but for others, they knew I was the son of Gamal Abdel Nasser, the only true Arab and Muslim leader we've had since Salah-al-Deen, when he claimed the Suez Canal for his people, as I claimed Libya, for my people, it was his footsteps I tried to follow, to keep my people free from colonial domination - from thieves who would steal from us.


Now, I am under attack by the biggest force in military history, my little African son, Obama wants to kill me, to take away the freedom of our country, to take away our free housing, our free medicine, our free education, our free food, and replace it with American style thievery, called "capitalism," but all of us in the Third World know what that means, it means corporations run the countries, run the world, and the people suffer. So, there is no alternative for me, I must make my stand, and if Allah wishes, I shall die by following His path, the path that has made our country rich with farmland, with food and health, and even allowed us to help our African and Arab brothers and sisters to work here with us, in the Libyan Jamahiriya.


I do not wish to die, but if it comes to that, to save this land, my people, all the thousands who are all my children, then so be it.


Let this testament be my voice to the world, that I stood up to crusader attacks of NATO, stood up to cruelty, stood up to betrayal, stood up to the West and its colonialist ambitions, and that I stood with my African brothers, my true Arab and Muslim brothers, as a beacon of light. When others were building castles, I lived in a modest house, and in a tent. I never forgot my youth in Sirte, I did not spend our national treasury foolishly, and like Salah-al-Deen, our great Muslim leader, who rescued Jerusalem for Islam, I took little for myself...


In the West, some have called me "mad", "crazy", but they know the truth yet continue to lie, they know that our land is independent and free, not in the colonial grip, that my vision, my path, is, and has been clear and for my people and that I will fight to my last breath to keep us free, may Allah almighty help us to remain faithful and free. 


Gaddafi’s great crime seems to be giving away too much oil wealth to his people. Was he a strongman? Yes, but you have to be to rule in that region right now. Was he the worst strong man? No, not by a long shot.

As bad as he was, at least he didn’t kill a million Iraqis on trumped up charges of non-existent weapons of mass destruction.  Nor was he chopping off 50 heads per week and stoning females for adultery as is the case with Saudi Arabia right now.

But again, whether he killed protestors or not, or committed war crimes or not, is irrelevant to the power structure. What mattered was that he had locked out Western interests, and instead used his country's oil wealth to provide free or extremely cheap health care, education and housing to a wide swath of Libyans.

So let’s cut to the murder scene. Here’s how it went down:

At around 08:30 local time on 20 October, Gaddafi, his army chief Abu-Bakr Yunis Jabr, his security chief Mansour Dhao, and a group of loyalists attempted to escape in a convoy of 75 vehicles.[7][8] A Royal Air Force reconnaissance aircraft spotted the convoy moving at high speed, after NATO forces intercepted a satellite phone call made by Gaddafi.[9]


NATO aircraft then fired on 11 of the vehicles, destroying one. A U.S. Predator drone operated from a base near Las Vegas[8] fired the first missiles at the convoy, hitting its target about 3 kilometres (2 mi) west of Sirte. Moments later, French Air Force Rafale fighter jets continued the bombing.[10]


The NATO bombing immobilized much of the convoy and killed dozens of loyalist fighters. Following the first strike, some 20 vehicles broke away from the main group and continued moving south. A second NATO airstrike damaged or destroyed 10 of these vehicles. According to the Financial Times, Free Libya units on the ground also struck the convoy.[11]


According to their statement, NATO was not aware at the time of the strike that Gaddafi was in the convoy. NATO stated that in accordance with Security Council Resolution 1973, it does not target individuals but only military assets that pose a threat. NATO later learned, "from open sources and Allied intelligence," that Gaddafi was in the convoy and that the strike likely contributed to his capture.[11]


To believe NATO, it had no idea Gaddafi was in that convoy (honest!), but just managed to have a Predator drone handy as well as a large number of jets armed for ground targets (not anti-aircraft missiles, as a no-fly zone might imply). It merely struck all of these vehicles over and over again in their quest to kill everyone on board because they were “military assets that posed a threat.”

Because you live in the real world, you know that NATO knew exactly where Gaddafi was at all times and that he was in that convoy attempting to escape NATO's bombing raid.  Further, you won’t be surprised to learn that many of these vehicles were pickup trucks that really posed no military threat to NATO.  The point was to kill Gaddafi, and numerous resources were brought to bear on that mission.

Gaddafi’s killing was the assassination of a foreign leader by Western interests. In this case, Gaddafi was just yet another target in a long line of leaders that attempted to keep those same interests at bay.

After NATO was finished making a mess of Libya by taking out Gaddafi and leaving a right proper mess of a power vacuum, it simply departed -- leaving the country to fend for itself.  Libya descended, of course, into an outright civil war and has remained ever since a hotbed of sectarian violence and increasing ISIS control and presence.

If NATO/US had to follow the Pier I rule of “you break it, you buy it” they would still be in Libya offering money and assistance as the country settles down and begins the long process of rebuilding.

But no such luck. That’s absolutely not how they operate. It’s disaster capitalism in action. The idea is to break things apart and then make money off of the pieces. It's not to help people.

Otherwise, how do we explain these images?

While imperfect by many standards, all of these countries were stable and increasingly prosperous before outside interests came in and turned them into a living nightmare.

It is this context that explains why such reactionary and violent groups as ISIS arose. They are the natural response of violated people seeking to assert some control over lives that otherwise have no hope and even less meaning.

I’m not justifying ISIS; only explaining the context that led to its rise.

Speaking of which, let’s turn back to Libya:

ISIS is tightening its grip in Libya

Nov 15, 2015


GENEVA (Reuters) - Islamic State militants have consolidated control over central Libya, carrying out summary executions, beheadings and amputations, the United Nations said on Monday in a further illustration of the North African state's descent into anarchy.


All sides in Libya's multiple armed conflicts are committing breaches of international law that may amount to war crimes, including abductions, torture and the killing of civilians, according to a U.N. report.


Islamic State (IS) has gained control over swathes of territory, "committing gross abuses including public summary executions of individuals based on their religion or political allegiance", the joint report by the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights and the U.N. Support Mission in Libya said.


The U.N. had documented IS executions in their stronghold city of Sirte, in central Libya along the Mediterranean coast, and in Derna to the east, from which they were later ousted by local militias. Victims included Egyptian Copts, Ethiopians, Eritreans and a South Sudanese, the report said.


Some were accused of "treason", others of same-sex relations, but none were given due legal process, according to the report, which covered the year through October.


Four years after the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi, Libya is locked in a conflict between two rival governments - an official one in the east and a self-declared one controlling the capital Tripoli - and the many armed factions that back them.


After that atrocious summary, how bad does life under Gaddafi sound now? Again, he was targeted for execution by Western interests and the resulting mess is of little surprise to anybody with even modest curiosity about how violent overthrows tend to work out in the MENA region.

But where is the UN security council denouncing the war crimes? And where is the ICC leveling crimes against humanity charges? Nowhere. There’s no more Western political interest in Libya now that it has been broken apart.

As they say in the military: once is bad luck, twice is a coincidence, but three times is enemy action. This pattern of eliminating “a very bad man” and leaving the country in a complete mess has happened three times of late, with Syria targeted to be the fourth. So enemy action it is.

ISIS and other extreme jihadist groups arose because of brutal conditions that made such harsh interpretations of ancient religious texts make sense by comparison.  When you have nothing left to believe in, one’s belief system can compensate by becoming rather inflexible.

I know I have greatly simplified a terribly complex dynamic, but -- speaking of beliefs -- I don’t believe that terrorists are born, I believe they are raised.  When one has nothing left to lose, then anything becomes possible, including strapping on a suicide belt and flicking the switch.

What I am saying is that this is not a battle between Christians and Muslims, nor is it a battle between good and evil, both characterizations that I’ve read recently in great abundance. That’s all nonsense for the masses.

This is about resources and true wealth that is being siphoned from the people who have had the misfortune to be born on top of it, and towards other regions with greater power and reach. 

There’s nothing different in what I am reading today from what the British redcoats did in India from the late 1700’s throughout the 1800’s.  Their military might assured that the East India Tea Company could continue to extract resources from the locals. 

At the time the locals were called heathens, implying they were subhuman and therefore could be safely dispatched. Now they are called terrorists -- same thing.  Dehumanize your foe to help rationalize one’s behaviors. It’s a tried and true practice of war propaganda.

How This Affects You

While we might be tempted to sit in our Western environs, secure in the idea that at least we aren’t ‘over there’ where all the bad things are happening, it would be a mistake to think that this turmoil will not impact you.

I’m not talking about the ultra-remote chance of being a victim of blow-back terrorism either. I am referring to the idea that it would be a mistake to think that any government(s) that think nothing of ruining entire MENA countries will hesitate to throw anybody else under the bus that gets in their way.

Ben Bernanke gave no thought to throwing granny under the bus in order to help the big banks get even bigger. He willingly and knowing transferred over a trillion dollars away from savers and handed it to the big banks.

Similarly, we shouldn't expect enlightened behavior to emerge from the shadows of leadership once things get even dicer on the world stage.  In fact, we should expect the opposite.

It would be a mistake to think that powers in charge would not turn their malign intent inwards toward their own populace if/when necessary. Today it’s Syria, yesterday it was Libya, but tomorrow it might be us.

The people of France recently got a small taste of the horror that has been visited upon the people of Iraq, Syria, Yemen and Libya. And while I have no interest in seeing any more violence anywhere, perhaps the people of France will finally begin to ask what happened and why. I don’t mean the fine details of the night of the massacre, but how it came to be considered a ‘thing to do’ at all by the people who did it. (For those unaware, France has been particularly involved for years in fomenting revolt within Syria)


My intention in stringing these dots together is so that we can have an informed discussion about what’s happening in Syria and the Middle East at large. I am not at all interested in trying to understand events through the framing lenses of religion and/or ‘terrorism’, both of which are tools of distraction in my experience.

Instead, I want to understand the power dynamics at play. And to try to peel back the layers, to understand why the powers that be consider this region so important at this moment in history.

I think they know as well as we do that the shale oil revolution is not a revolution at all but a retirement party for an oil industry that has given us everything we hold economically dear but is on its last legs.

I think that the power structures of the next twenty years are going to be utterly shaped by energy – who has it, who needs it and who’s controlling it.

Saudi Arabia is acting increasingly desperate here and I think we know why.  They have a saying there: “My father rode a camel, I drove a car, my son flies a jet and his son will ride a camel.” 

They know as well as anyone that their oil wealth will run out someday; and so, too, will the West’s interest in them.  With no giant military to protect them, the royalty in Saudi Arabia should have some serious concerns about the future.

Heck, it’s even worse than that:

Saudi Wells Running Dry — of Water — Spell End of Desert Wheat

Nov 3, 2015


Saudi Arabia became a net exporter of wheat in 1984 from producing almost none in the 1970s. The self-sufficiency program became a victim of its own success, however, as it quickly depleted aquifers that haven’t been filled since the last Ice Age.


In an unexpected U-turn, the government said in 2008 it was phasing out the policy, reducing purchases of domestic wheat each year by 12.5 percent and bridging the gap progressively with imports.


The last official local harvest occurred in May, although the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization projects that a small crop of about metric 30,000 tons for traditional specialty bakery products will "prevail" in 2016. At its peak in 1992, Saudi Arabia produced 4.1 million tons of wheat and was one of the world’s top 10 wheat exporters.



The Saudis did something very unwise – they pumped an aquifer filled over 10,000 years ago and used it to grow wheat in the desert.  Now their wells are running dry and they have no more water.

And yet their population is expanding rapidly even as their oil fields deplete.  There’s a very bad intersection for Saudi Arabia, and the rulers know it.

It helps to explain their recent actions of lashing out against long-standing regional foes and helps to explain the increasing desperation of their moves to help destabilize (and even bomb) their neighbors.

My point here is that as resources become tight, the ruling powers can be expected to act in increasingly desperate ways.  This is a tenet of the Long Emergency of which James Kunstler wrote.

The only response that makes any sense to me, at the individual level, is to reduce your needs and increase your resilience.

This is something we cover in great detail in our new book, Prosper!: How To Prepare for the Future and Create a World Worth Inheriting, so I won’t go into all the details here.  Instead, my goal is to help cast a clarifying light on recent events and add some necessary detail that can help us more fully appreciate what’s happening around the world and why taking prudent preparations today is becoming increasingly urgent.

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BlueViolet's picture
BlueViolet (not verified) Dec 1, 2015 10:09 PM

Ockam's razor: "Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected." >> There's one simple hypothesis behind all this mess in the Middle East. It is also the very reason Why the US has lost it to Putin >>

tankster's picture

Cris, excellent piece,as always...


Please don't get Breitbarted!

The best Sun's picture

Saudi oil is nearly depleted.

"I shall fetch a rug."

Demdere's picture

But we can ALWAYS buy commodities, there are too many oil producers to prevent anyone who wants oil from getting all they want  Saudi Arabia has probably been hurt more by OPEC than helped.

The hypothesis that makes most sense to me is that the Israeli-Neocons need chaos more than anything, because if they can't keep the wars going and attention off of 9/11, that will become a political event, and they will hang.

Those are now desparate and fearful people, and that fear is driving the craziness, the propaganda.

We in the public have spent 14 years convincing ourselves that 9/11 was really what it obviously was, and then finally getting around to thinking 'what does it mean'.  It means we have treasonous criminals running big sections of our government, and being a large part of our ruling oligopoly. The closer we all get to doing something about that, the more desperate our Israeli-neocons will become.

And think about all of the people who learned about 9/11 after the fact, ran across evidence.  Most of them will obstruct any change, they could be thought guilty enough to punish.

Our entire officer corps either KNOWS or is intentionally ignorant.  Our entire Intelligence apparatus either KNOWS, or is intentionally ignorant. Ditto Congress, the courts, the bureaucracy.

The coverup of 9/11 holds 14 years later, their control of MSM and what is permissible to anyone who wants to be part of the Status Quo is still perfect, there has not been any defection since Jesse Ventura, who promptly disappeared from public view.

Aeneid's picture

ISIS = Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. Iraq is to the east of Jordan (shaped like the hatchet) and Syria is to the north.

ISIL = Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. Iraq is still to the east of Jordan, and “the Levant” is a term that comes from “the rising (of the sun, i.e., to the east)” - and is basically the land along the Mediterranean - that includes Lebanon, Israel, and those countries along that region.

By saying ISIL, you “negate” Israel as its own country and lump it in with the rest of the countries along the Mediterranean - and Israel sort of disappears (loses its sovereignty) and becomes part of “the Levant ” - which is therefore part of ISIL.

If you've wondered, as I have, why all government agencies and especially Obama calls it ISIL and they even spell it out every time it’s used, instead of ISIS as the rest of the world, here's the answer.

Decoding Obama’s speech reveals some startling revelations.
In one press conference after another, when referring to the Muslim terror super-group ISIS, United States President Barack Obama will use the term ISIL, instead of their former name ISIS, or current name Islamic State.

Have you ever wondered about that? Here is the difference: What makes up the near exact center of the Muslim Levant? Israel.
ISIL stands for the Islamic State of Iraq and Levant. Now, to us Westerners we don't really make much of a distinction, do we? No, honestly from our perspective it’s all about the same. But how would a Muslim living in the Middle East view it? Just what is the Levant anyway? Let’s take a look.

The geographical term LEVANT refers to a multi-nation region in the Middle East. It’s a land bridge between Turkey to the north and Egypt to the south.
If you look on a map, however, in the near exact middle of the nations that comprise the Levant, guess what you see? It’s Israel.

When Barack Obama refers over and over to the Islamic State as ISIL, he is sending a message to Muslims all over the Middle East that he personally does not recognize Israel as a sovereign nation, but as territory belonging to the Islamic State.

Now you know why Obama says that he has no plan, no goal, and no stated aim for dealing with ISIS. But he does have a plan, and it’s a really nasty, diabolical one. Obama’s plan is to drag his feet for as long as he can, doing only the bare minimum that Congress forces him to do. His plan is to buy ISIL as much time as possible to make as many gains as they can.

Listen as Obama, his press secretary, the spokesperson for the State Department, and his Joint Chiefs of Staff painstakingly spell out the letters I-S-I-L so there is no doubt in your mind. And it’s working.

The Islamic State has garnered millions of dollars, a vast cache of weapons, and in their latest foray have captured Syrian fighter jets and now 12 commercial passenger planes. With each passing day that Obama fulfills his stated aim of doing nothing, the Islamic State grows by leaps and bounds.

The ultimate goal, of course, has not changed and will never change. The ultimate goal is the destruction of Israel.

Now you know a little bit more about why Obama chooses his words so carefully.

Dinero D. Profit's picture

I see what you did there.  After all that bullshit, you made Israel the victim. 

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Dark Daze (not verified) Aeneid Dec 1, 2015 10:55 PM

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Did you even read the article or are you just a paid troll.

dsty's picture

Paid troll

yup, and you?

a troll calling a troll

you too soon will know what it is like to be a victim

like Sweden is learning what the "JEWS" have lived

It is coming your way, you will have to deal with the Jihadist

big talk does nothing

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Johnny Horscaulk (not verified) dsty Dec 2, 2015 6:36 AM

When did sweden ethnically cleanse palestine?

Youre a racist Zionist puke.

stitch-rock's picture

Its a money thing. The whole thing.

As soon as someone brings Israel and "Jews" into it,

they have a political agenda smaller then the larger picture.

Consequently, that smaller opinion is easily used (consciously or unconsciously - with or with out intent of purposes)

for the division of the whole of humanity.

IMHO it is either a humanity thing OR a money thing.

Rarely do they cross and stand together.



Joenobody12's picture

In 1982,  a journalist named Oded Yinon, who had formerly worked at the Israeli Foreign Ministry, published an article in which he outlined the strategic approach his country needed to take in the coming years. His idea was that the security of Isreal lies in the balkanization of the Middle Eastern Arab countries.  Yinon’s vision reappeared in the 1996 document  “A Clean Break” , authored by a consortium of US and Israeli “strategic thinkers” that included Richard Perle, Douglas Feith and David and Meyrav Wurmser, which was meant to serve as a foreign policy blueprint for the first administration  of Benjamin Netanyahu. This document not only shaped the police of Israel but, more importantly, that of the US as well. In 2007 , US general Wesley Clark’s  revealed in an in terview the true strategic aims of those running US foreign policy in the wake of the September 11th attacks.  In it, he tells of a conversation he had at that time with a Pentagon official who admitted that the real plan was “to attack and destroy the governments in seven Arab countries (Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran.) in five years”. Iraq and Libya are now " mission accomplished " and Isreal is that much safer nevermind how many are killed in Iraq and Libya.

On September 5th, 2013, Alon Pinkas, the former Israeli Consul General in New York and well-connected member of Tel Aviv’s conservative policy elite described the Syrian conflict in the following terms in the New York Times:

“This is a playoff situation in which you need both teams to lose, but at least you don’t want one to win – we’ll settle for a tie,….Let them both bleed, hemorrhage to death: that’s the strategic thinking here. As long as this lingers, there’s no real threat from Syria.”

I just copied and pasted all these information. I know it is politically incorrect to say bad things about the Jews ( and I have a Jewish relative ), but I think it is important to set the record straight.

LasVegasDave's picture

Its interesting, that every country is entitled to have a foreign policy, except Israel.

Canada and Mexico dont pose existential threats to the US.

People in Boston dont worry about crazed Newfies stabbing them in the neck

so, OMG, the Judeans (sorry, Israelis) have to come up with a wicked plan to kill wicked people.

Its dirty business dealing with arabs.  Always has been, always will be.


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Johnny Horscaulk (not verified) LasVegasDave Dec 2, 2015 7:18 AM

Thats not a foreign policy stupid. It is a plan by a colonial state to employ war and terror to destroy functioning states so isrsel can bomb and kill and annex at will.

See, asshole like you think that anytime israel invades lebanon or bombs hospitals in gaza its because of its reluctant need to defend itself. But what it really is is you hate Arabs and dont think they have any rights to live in peace. Israel never does anything wrong, ever. Right?

Your naked anti arab racism here, literal antisemitic stupid fuckery doesnt even register to you as racism because you are s stupid brainwashed fuck.

Fuck. You.

Diottica's picture

Aeneid - not sure your analysis is correct.  An alternative interpretation might be that Obama wants to fight IS over a much wider area (IL or Iraq and Levant) than others who are content to fight IS in Iraq and Syria. Thus, Obama is fighting to defend Israel's interests within Israel and support it's further expansion (in the guise of fighting IS) into 'Greater Israel' e.g. bye bye Palestine.

After all, if he wanted to fight, say, Rednecks of North America, the only people to be targeted would be Rednecks in Mexico, USA and Canada.  He wouldn't want to cause the destruction of North America but merely destroy Rednecks.

JustObserving's picture
Why It Matters To Those Living In The West

Keep on killing and murdering and sooner or later there will be a major war which may consume the West and this world.  The West is blithely unaware that 3.5 million Iraqis have died due to US wars and sanctions, and that 300,000 Syrians are dead, over 1,000,000 injured and over 4 million refugees because the Nobel Prize Winner wants to get rid of Assad.

Karma is a bitch.

US Sponsored Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012. Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Children



nevertheless's picture

I agree with you, but Obama did not give himself the Nobel Prize, his handlers did. It was to give him cover for his actions...The US government is occupied, money talks, and those with the money make the rules...



Joe A's picture

But this Nobel Prize was unique. Because usually war criminals get theirs after they commit their war crimes.

nevertheless's picture

I read on here and other sites everyday how "evil Muslims" are and how they are invading US...yet lost on these sorry excuses for humans, is the fact that we destroyed their homes. Unlike our selfish, childish, fantasies, Syrians, Iraqis, Iranians, Palestinians... et al, have all felt REAL bombs dropping on their heads, killing their families, they did NOT watch it on TV, then vote to kill people in some far away land. 


If there is a God, America and its zionist masters are as far from his grace as one could be. How is it that "evangelicals" could ever imagine Christ's blessing, when they do the bidding of the worst of humanity?


Much of our sin lies in ignorance, ignorance of what true evil is done in our name, blinded by zionist media that works to keep us so. But more and more the truth is being reveled and at some point we need to hold to account those who have destroyed the moral foundation of America. This moral core was not lost on equal rights, or gay rights, but on WAR, war the greatest sin imaginable, and we do it with the ease of a vote...



Dr. Engali's picture

The funny thing is somehow they think we are blessed, but if you really take a look at the country you see busted up families, drug abuse affecting every walk of life, crumbling infrastructure, moar debt than can ever be paid back over multiple generations. The wealth disparity is unlike any other time in history. The society as a whole is so fucked up that most of those people who aren't on drugs are medicated by big pharma. The health care system is a shambles, I could go on but it's too depressing. But hey, at least we have football and the greatest military in the world. Yep, we are blessed, blessed with the biggest mind game in human history.

TheSheepWolf's picture

Absolute truth. Its not just the US but we can see it everywhere - there is no moral foundation anymore. 


How sad it is to vote someone who afterwards attacks a sovereign country and kill thousands of innocent people as a collateral damage? Yeah sure, we do not give a fuck as long as we can consume more and just watch our huge TVs where Ziosnists show "terrorists threats" and create even more fear? Its an endless whirpool sucking even more people in and creating even more fear so we can approve more wars and voluntarily lose our freedom? Perhaps it is time to wake up?

Allen_H's picture

Totally correct @nevertheless and the Dr. Engali . It is the same in the ESSU, moral decay on a massive scale, as well as all the other things you both mention. 

When I always say ' Fuck the jewUSSA terrorist cunts ', which I say quite often, it is because of what the blind fucks in your government do and the sheep that send off their children to kill, while the adults make the targets. 

I do not refer to the people in the west who know what is going, but that is a small minority. 

Fuck knows what happens next, I need another escape plan if shit hits the fan here, think I will move to Russia, it's not so far.

GRDguy's picture

"The Saudis did something very unwise – they pumped an aquifer filled over 10,000 years ago and used it to grow wheat in the desert.  Now their wells are running dry and they have no more water."

So what the Saudis did greatly matters here in the Southwest, especially the dry southwest corner of Arizona:

jm's picture

Jews have contributed more to the world scientifically, culturally, and intellectually than any other ethnic group in history.

The Middle East is enriched by their presence.

Bay of Pigs's picture

Yeah, and they were the first to "contribute" terrorism there too.


jm's picture

Think of them as landlords, returning to their ancestral homeland. They had to kick out the squatters.

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Johnny Horscaulk (not verified) jm Dec 2, 2015 7:20 AM

Bullshit. how do you live in poland for 1200 years thrn claim to be from another continent unless youre a fucking idiot liar?

Leaving aside the dubious claim that Ashkenazi Jews are more direct descendants of the ancient inhabitants of Palestine who largely became Christian and Muslim, the notion that any group has an exclusive right to lands remote ancestors left 2000 years ago - to the extent of brutal ethnic cleansing and oppression of the actual natives is ridiculous. It sounds in Jewish arrogance and hypocrisy.

Jews lived all over the Roman Empire before Christ and in large enough numbers to commit massacres in several cities during the Kitos War, like all history it has been whitewashed for fear of offending you Eternal Victims but Roman and Greek writers were stunned by the barbarity.

There were likely already more jews in alexandria than jerusalem, long a backwater, in the second century bce.

Jews were banned from Cyprus for their barbarity sgainst civilians but of course for you it was just 'antisemitism.' They werent fighting for their homeland which i can respect - jews massacred people in cyprus and egypt and libya in large enough numbers and with such barbarity as to shock the ancient world.

An amazing magick word. If i hate a racist i hate a racist. If the racist is jewish though, Im a racist? Nope - that is a hypocritical and absurd view arising out of Jewish Privilege.

Also - most jews continue to live all over the west as a privileged minority - advocating against the idea of Europeans having a rifht to a homeland.

The chosrn people myth has deeply affected jewish psychology. The arrogance and hypocrisy, the disregard for non jewish life and rights is baked in to that foul text the Torah.

Jews seems to think they have a right to live anywhere they please but sn exclusive right to land that was majority Christian and Muslim even 100 years ago.

They want to have a "right to return" to land they bever set foot in while denying it to people expelled by jewish terrorism, imported from europe, in living memory.

They demand an ethnic state but advocate mass immigration in EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN WHICH THEY LIVE AS A WEALTHY, privileged minority that typically acts against the interests of the ethnic najority.

Jews have no right to return to a land they have lived outside of for 2500 years just because of their shitty myths.

And deep down - they know it.

jm's picture

I have to be brief in my response, which means a gloss ovr some of your points.

So... Jews havelived in a number of places throughout Europe and elsewhere.  They were forced into usury and craft as a living because they were not allowed to own land or physical plant other than capital itself.  This forced them to be lenders not owners.  Chirstians and Muslims were not allow to lend as a living and the world always needs capital.

As soon as things turn south for an owner, default risk goes up, just how it is.  Howver, in the past a default was an incredibly destructive process entialling the owner losing all.  It is still this way in many parts of the world.  As an exmaple, in Italy default is incredibly painful to the debtor.

Lenders--many times but not always Jews--were blamed for the default.  To avoid the loss of perosnal as well as business property, the preferred method of default was to destroy the lender.  Enter progroms, expulsions, wide-scale murders that Jews have experienced.

When prudent lenders find a place where they are protected, they prosper.  This is not Jewish.  Their prosperity allowed them to invest in education and culture.  

Add to this, standardized (which some can debate as baised) testing shows they are very smart as a group. Thus they hav contributed more intellectually, culturally, and intellectually to the human than any other <insert classification bucket here> in human history.


MilwaukeeMark's picture

Did you lose these? 

<Sarc> <Sarc off>

jm's picture

No Mark. Seriously, Jews have contributed more scientifically, culturally, and intellectually than any other ehtnic group in human history.



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nosam (not verified) jm Dec 1, 2015 11:45 PM

The Jews control all the awards so they make it seem like they contribute a lot.

A lot of their so called contributions are just fraud,

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Johnny Horscaulk (not verified) nosam Dec 2, 2015 6:44 AM

I dont think you can claim they 'control all the awards'

That said jews are not wildly overrepresented at top schools, despite 'diversity' quotas for asians and non jewish whites, because theyre all geniuses.

No - they are, as with hollywood, absolutely committed to maintaining jewish power and privilege even as the adl and splc etc lecture everyone else about diversity etc.

Note that this last link/story was removed from being a top google search result by jewish groups for being 'antisemitic'. Read it. It isn't racism - it is simply highlighting that jews have and do have major influence in hollywood, jews have said it without protest, but a non jew mentioning it in passing describing mel gibsons insane rant is smeared as an joo hater.

Its naked fucking hypocrisy- its saying dont talk about jews having power far out of proportion to their numbers, but do worry that a fire department has too many whites.

jm's picture

They are protective of each other due to centuries of persecution.  As soon as they reached a level of prosperity, they were flecced or worse with official sanction.  It was a form of default that destroyed the existence of the creditor.

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Johnny Horscaulk (not verified) jm Dec 2, 2015 3:45 AM

Theyre an ethnic group now?

Intellectually? The nonsense of marx and freud? Bolshevism, dogmatic religion, matrrialism...

You need to stop conflating the past couple centuries when jews were much more wealthy thsn any other group, when they were a privileged minority engaged in usury and ethnocentrism - with all of human history.

Take away the disproportionate wealth, the benefits of living in western urban centers, and consider that the Germanic peoples have accomplished far more, the foundations of modern science and art are Christian and European, not the product of Ashkenazi privilege.

jm's picture

Maybe, but let me give you an exmaple.  Hilbert, a fantastic mind at Gottingen, never made the connection ncessary to forge general relativity.  It was Einstein that did so.  

Their circumstances were much the same withwhat appears to be one very notable exception.

Other such examples abound.

Panafrican Funktron Robot's picture

Einstein on Zionism:

Wonder how he would feel about all the death and destruction that has occurred as a result of the insistance on a Jewish state?

MilwaukeeMark's picture

Did you lose these? 

<Sarc> <Sarc off>

TNTARG's picture

No, that's not true. 

Nobody with enough intelligence and knowledge could intellectually believe that there are "better" or "worst" races or cultures.

Some powerful jews and associates, however,  own or control the MSM - "the Press", in the past - all over the West, as they own or fully control Central Banks, (the FED, i.e.). And the "Hollywood" industry. And a vast system of "prizes".

As a matter of fact, a system of rewards and punishment is an important cultural principle for some ethnic and/or religious and/or cultural and/or whatever groups.

Which implies the need of always having someone or an élite in the position of deciding who, what, why has to be rewarded, and who, what, why has to be punished. Of deciding “right” and “wrong” in spite of conscience (the inner sense of what is right or wrong in one's conduct or motives).

“Rewards” and “Punishment” ends up to be a powerful tool for exercising Power and control over the rest, those to be rewarded, those to be punished. Which leads to Domination in the interest of a few.

And that's what we're living today, being the "system" pretended to be imposed whatever it takes worldwide.

In the end, seems to me, it's unsustainable for Humanity. Much more than the Climate Change.


Ghordius's picture

nevertheless, the very definition of a culture warrior is that of someone that holds his culture (however defined, and most of the times badly defined) as superiour, and wants to crush all the others. and here on ZH you'll find plenty of culture warriors

jm's picture

This is a fair comment and I concede your point.  Not sure how Jews should be characterized, but I do believe there are differences beyond "faith" that should be noted. 

Joenobody12's picture

It is true that Jews contributed more to the world scientifically than other ethnic group.  However,  the lack of regard for human lives  , the lack of compassion for other human beings, the intentional inflction of suffering on other human beings also makes the Jews stand out. Jews selfishness and brutality brings shame to the human race.

jm's picture

I don't think Jews are more brutal or selfish than others.  It's mostly about circumstances, which have a wide delta in interpretations.

Allen_H's picture

Fuck the fake jews, as well as you jew cunt, I hope you get a bullet.

jm = jewish molester. 

jm's picture

I do not wish you a Happy Hanukkah.

TNTARG's picture

The "evil" to be exterminated...

It has been said that:

"Gaddafi - A Libyan Hero

By Philip Pank in Tripoli

Muammar Gaddafi has announced plans to dismantle the Government, hand the riches from Africa's biggest oil reserves to the people and nationalise foreign oil operations that have recently been allowed back into the country. The announcement has left diplomats and the 40 overseas oil companies operating in the country on edge.

Posted May 12, 2011" -

Gaddafi Offers Oil and Power to People

By Philip Pank in Tripoli

February 21, 2009 "The Times" -- Forty years into the revolution he unleashed on Libya Muammar Gaddafi has announced plans to dismantle the Government, hand the riches from Africa's biggest oil reserves to the people and nationalise foreign oil operations that have recently been allowed back into the country.

“The administration has failed and the state economy has failed. Enough is enough. The solution is, we Libyans take directly the oil money and decide what to do with the money,” he says.

To end the corruption that has sapped the vast oil wealth, bundles of cash should be delivered to the poor, three quarters of the ministries should cease to exist and the workers should run hospitals and schools.

onmail1's picture

West must be destroyed


Dig a large deep hole in Yellow stone national park

Fill a large truck with high explosives & drive it into the hole

detonate it

America is sitting on top of a world'd largest volacano below Yellow stone

A shock wave may awaken hell fire

the volcano has the capacity to destroy most America



JamaicaJim's picture

well, that's just super Swifty.

What ya waiting for?

Go dig the hole, you mutt!

Come on tough guy....get to it.

Arnold's picture

Sand hogs would help you out, then take you out.

 Deep rock miners and Roustabouts too.

Pay good? Bennies?

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

No, it would take a huge, bunker-busting hydrogen bomb.  But the eruption of this super-volcano would have disastrous consequences for the entire planet.

Dickweed Wang's picture

But the eruption of this super-volcano would have disastrous consequences for the entire planet.


Aye Captain!! 

There are estimates that summer temperatures in the interior of the USA, Russia and Europe (the "farm belts" in each region) could drop by as much as 20 degress C. (~68 degrees F.) for ten years or more.  This would mean that temps in those areas would barely get above freezing for the entire year in those areas (if at all) - essentially putting an end to grain production in the norhern hemisphere for a decade.  Not good . . . . .

P.S.  There are similar studies that predict an even greater temperature drop for those locations in the event of a full scale nuclear exchange between the USA and Russia - i.e. 150 million tons of soot and smoke causing a drop of up to 30 degress C. in the summer!!  That would make the high temps in Iowa in July around 25 degrees F., or less.