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The Syrian Proxy War: A World War III-esque Summary

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Even before any major world powers were willing to go public (so to speak) with their involvement in Syria’s five-year, bloody civil war, it was difficult to keep track of the myriad rebel factions, militant groups, and jihadists battling the Assad regime for control of the country.

In a testament to just how confusing (not to mention terrifying) the situation had become by the time Iran began to mull asking the Russians for help, in April, 18,000 civilians ended up trapped in the Yarmouk refugee camp near Damascus where al-Nusra, ISIS, Hamas, the FSA, and the Assad regime were all fighting each other simultaneously in what UN Secretary General Ban ki-Moon called “the worst circle of hell.”

At that juncture, the conflict was still largely a true proxy war. That is, sure there were probably some US Spec Ops running around with the Kurds and perhaps with the FSA and there were almost undoubtedly a handful of Iranian commanders shuttling back and forth between Damascus and Tehran while coordinating with Hezbollah, but the war didn't look anything like it does now in terms of overt military action by multiple world powers. 

After Quds commander Qassem Soleimaini visited the frontlines in Latakia in June, the general vowed to "surprise the world," with Iran's next move. Weeks later Soleimaini was in Moscow plotting a Russian intervention with The Kremlin. By the end of September, Russia had built an air base at Latakia and on September 30, a three star general strolled into the US Embassy in Baghdad and informed the Americans that Russian airstrikes in Syria "begin in 1 hour." 

The rest, as they say is history and as we reported earlier today, things just got more complicated as it now appears both Britain and Germany are set to enter the fray. All of this is made immeasurably more difficult to grasp when you consider that it's nearly impossible to sort through which rebel groups are Saudi, Qatari, and Turkish proxies. 

Now that the tense standoff between Ankara and Moscow looks set to usher in a new phase in the conflict characterized by world powers engaging one another directly, we though it an opportune time to take inventory of who is who and what is what in Syria which just might be remembered as the theatre for the start of a third world war. 

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And here, for those who missed it, is The New York Times' attempt to explain who's fighting who:

 

Here are the stories that document the key events of the past six months:

Finally, in case anyone is still confused, here is the really simple recap:

  • Russian fighter jets (now armed with air-to-air missiles) over Syria
  • Russian missile cruisers off the Syrian coast protecting Russian assets on the ground and occasionally enforcing a no fly zone over the Mediterranean  
  • US, French fighter jets over Syria and Iraq
  • The US Aircraft Carrier USS Harry Truman is set to arrive by the Syrian coast in a few weeks
  • The French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle is parked off the Syrian coast
  • UK fighter jets deployed over Syria within days
  • German jets deployed over Syria within days
  • German frigate to protect the French aircraft carrier
  • German troops to be deployed
  • US "special" troops officially deployed to Iraq, unofficially operating in Syria
  • Russian "special" troops unofficially on the ground in Syria
 

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Tue, 12/01/2015 - 15:59 | 6862074 BullyBearish
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You've got to be kidding me...really???

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:03 | 6862101 researchfix
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Can i place a bet? On Russia?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:08 | 6862112 nope-1004
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Am curious why, over the last 15 years, Syrian citizens never left the country as much as they are now, at a time when the US is "helping"?

Banker war straight up. 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:11 | 6862135 Occident Mortal
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It's basically;

 

Assad + Russia + Iran in the West <><> ISIS + Saudi + Qatar + Turkey in the Center  <><> KRG + US on the East

 

Outside powers have created so many proxies (who have all been robbing each other) that now we just have a vipers nest of angry bastards who are armed to the teeth and looking for revenge against humanity.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:12 | 6862162 KesselRunin12Parsecs
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Meh ~ That's just a foto of Black Friday at Wal Mart in Syria

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:26 | 6862231 Anonymous User
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Since the yankees just landed in Iraq, again, start polishing your helmets boys.

You don't know what might expect you there.

http://goo.gl/7tHnDu

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:34 | 6862277 nuubee
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I've still never read any good reason for trying to remove Assad from the U.S. and her allies.

 

Why remove Assad in the first place? If rebel groups exist, and indeed felt the need to take up arms against what they perceived as an illegitimate election, then let them. The targeting of violent rebel groups is an internal matter of the nation-state with those conditions. Sorry to get all "Star Trek" on here, but the prime directive applies here, there's no reason for the U.S. to be involved in Syria, and the U.S. public told Obama as much when they polled nearly unanimously that they did not want war with Syria just after the retarded "Red Line" speech.

BTW, to those who say that Assad "Gassed" his own people, there's actually just as ample evidence that it was likely someone else in the middle east who provided the weapons, and deployed them.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:40 | 6862318 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Get with the program, private, we want to remove Assad because he's against Islamic fundamentalist terrorism. Like Saddam. Like Gaddafi. You think the US actually WANTS to stop Islamic terror? Sheesh.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:50 | 6862347 turtle
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And the (multi) million dollar question... Where is Israel?...

thx again ziohedge!

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:00 | 6862437 pods
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If you ask that question they will give you 6 million reasons why Israel had to be left out of it.

pods

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:13 | 6862508 turtle
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People get tired of the same old bullshit so all the more reason why they should be constantly included... zh!

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:12 | 6862506 roadhazard
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Israel is sitting back and watching the show. They don't need to do anything with the US doing all the work. It's always Saturday in Israel.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:23 | 6862574 DOT
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Israel has admitted to having troops in Syria.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:30 | 6862599 HowdyDoody
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France: Frigate to protect carrier.

Sorry, the sunburn will pass straight through the frigate and still have the umpf to sink the carrier. One shot, two kills as your Zionist masters like to say.

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:42 | 6862669 CitizenPete
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They call in the plays from the bench and get cheap oil for all their hard work.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:18 | 6862546 macholatte
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Imagine how really, really fucked up it would be if Hitlery were still Sec of State?

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:27 | 6862590 cheech_wizard
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Imagine how really, really fucked up it would be if Hitlery becomes the next President...

Standard Disclaimer: I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:23 | 6862572 Luckhasit
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TD has shown has Isreal is gettin paid.  Overlooked how Isreal is looking to censor youtube and other online video sites regarding their plunder of whats left of palestine.  

But they ride saudia arabia ass so its not all bad.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 19:51 | 6863215 Dubaibanker
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It was over 2 months ago on 30 Sept that I had proclaimed that Putin had made a masterstroke by intervening in Syria.....USA/NATO had the option to support Russia/Assad/Syrians/humanity/whole world ......or .....be against all of them and support ISIS....

Guess what side did the US chose to support ever since?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-30/propaganda-war-begins-russias-s...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:41 | 6862323 aardvarkk
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Pretty much every country in the world could do worse than to adopt the Prime Directive.  But if you asked any member of the Obama administration, I'm guessing their response would be "he gassed his own people" or something similar...the same types of things the Bushies said.  Yet they've never proved to my satisfaction that it wasn't the "rebels" that deployed the gas....

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:01 | 6862444 giggler321
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It's doctor Assad - he's got a PHd

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:12 | 6862501 besnook
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he is a medical doctor of opthamology, an eye doctor. that is an md degree.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 20:12 | 6863285 Battlefield USA
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Here is your good reason. Christ, people keep looking at the tree rather than the forest. Ya know, besides today, there was a yesterday, a last week, a last month, a last year, a September 11, 2001, a Pentagons New Map, a PNAC, and etc.

There is a TIMELINE here, a purpose, if you are willing and bright enough, to see it:

http://tinyurl.com/p6dcxhs

And you know, there are STILL people out there who believe that US/NATO/Globalists are pissed at Russia for annexing Crimea because of dumbocracy... rather that Russia annexed Crimea to keep its Black Sea Fleet... which US/NATO/Globalists tried to eliminate... because?

Sigh. Gee golly! And why do they want Assad out?

This is FATE of those being in the non-integrated GAP who REFUSE to be assimilated into the integrated CORE. Figure that out.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:14 | 6862174 MadVladtheconquerer
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And some of them can be directed back to Dagestan/Chechnya just like a good old CIA spook would do.....

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:35 | 6862284 aardvarkk
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"a vipers nest of angry bastards who are armed to the teeth and looking for revenge against humanity."

It strikes me that that description of the middle east is not only a true one, but one that could have been applied at any time since the mid-80s or so when I started following politics/international news.  Many, many times after reading a particularly nasty story out of there, I've sat back and wondered how they keep going like they do, but they do keep going.  There is no other similar cauldron of hatred and insanity anywhere else in the world...possibly excepting sub-saharan Africa.  It's kind of hard to tell about that place because it doesn't really get reported on much, but MAN do they like to kill each other there too.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:10 | 6862148 JustTheTTIP
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I would also love to see some digging into "who" paid and organised the masses to move towards the EU. $2000 per head to get to Germany?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:11 | 6862157 Occident Mortal
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Sounds like a Soros play to me.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 10:57 | 6865425 Kobe Beef
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#RefujihadiLivesMatter

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:10 | 6862486 Proctologist
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Might I suggest going long on Halliburton stock?

It might help Dick Cheney's former employer the most....

/s

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 19:34 | 6863125 Kirk2NCC1701
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Never mid betting on Russia.*  Assad needs to get his head out of his donkey**, and make the Kurds his BFFs.  He may even offer them some land, in exchange for a permanent alliance against Turkey and ISIS jihadists.

He and the Russians desperately need their help, to change the Game, by taking Turkey out of the Syrian game, with a domestic war for Independence.  Else Assad and Syria are screwed.

* researchfix: "Can i place a bet? On Russia?"

** modern word for Ass.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:06 | 6862116 BullyBearish
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Netanyahu says Israel acts in Syria ‘from time to time’ By TIA GOLDENBERG The Associated Press
Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:22 | 6862216 Herd Redirectio...
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He-who-must-not-be-named!

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:31 | 6862260 WillyGroper
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Dec. exercises.

WTF - Austere 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUoJM1paLA4

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:56 | 6862734 Noplebian
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We are heading for WW3 and nothing or no one will stop it from happening......

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:06 | 6862077 Squid Viscous
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let's get it on, it's like two amped-up high school football teams waiting for kickoff...

 

cue mossad, stage right...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:07 | 6862127 MadVladtheconquerer
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>>>..let's get it on

HEY! That's my line!!!!!!!!!

"Come on 'Dillos!  Let's get it on!"

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:17 | 6862537 unrulian
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actually, it's big John's line

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:52 | 6862387 turtle
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Mossad has had a permanent presence on-stage since the beginning.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:05 | 6862466 pods
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They are the producers.

Just like in Hollywood.

pods

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:12 | 6862087 ZerOhead
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Confusing?

Don't worry... it's simple... ALL WARS ARE BANKER WARS and the bankers will not stop until they achieve a global government under their United Nations. WW3 and IMF-SDR's here we come...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:02 | 6862090 KnuckleDragger-X
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In history there is rarely anything new to basic human stupidity, but I think that they might have figured out a whole level of stupid.....

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:02 | 6862094 mtndds
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Ya.  But where is Israel on the list?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:06 | 6862121 KesselRunin12Parsecs
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They're on whichever side WINS

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:56 | 6862409 turtle
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Who do you think wrote the article... and the rest of the unauthored articles on ziohedge?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:19 | 6862200 TheSheepWolf
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The banks were excluded from the chart because Israel would be dominating the infographics.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:07 | 6862096 Mr. Schmilkies
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That photo is Pulitzer-worthy, though it doesn't say exactly where or when that was.  Sweden last week?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:17 | 6862188 TheSheepWolf
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Germany next week

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:21 | 6862209 pods
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JC Penny in Flint, Michigan, around noon last Friday.

pods

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:24 | 6862225 silverthorn
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No, ElPaso TX.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:04 | 6862107 lolmao500
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The thing is that most people think that this will not escalate into ww3... You fools, you think that the rebels will drop their arms once ISIS is destroyed? That the western support will stop? LOL.

I fully expect ww3 in 2016... once western backed rebels/NATO vs Russia/Syria/Iran kicks off...

If NATO backs off, Syrian rebels will be pissed and will go back to Europe to take their revenge... so either you get ww3 or you get a shitload of terrorist attacks in Europe

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:12 | 6862160 MadVladtheconquerer
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Will that be the time that my puts/shorts start working?

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 22:15 | 6863761 BuddyEffed
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Under no circumstances will your puts and shorts start working. If they ever start working that would quickly expose the weakness under the mountains of unfunded liabilities that are insidiously everywhere and avalanches that might be unstoppable could come cascading down.
Aren't we overdue for another short covering rally on bad news?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:22 | 6862215 Berspankme
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This should be bullish. Buy stawks

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:05 | 6862114 MadVladtheconquerer
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More YAWN.

The 21st Century edition of the Great Game is enjoined.  Deal.  With.  It.

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:05 | 6862115 RawPawg
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nice to see something other than stock market charts

hopefully a new ZH trend

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:06 | 6862118 applegini
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can we get some more articles on the coming stock market collapse/depression/armageddon?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:33 | 6862276 Herd Redirectio...
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Oh, you didn't get the memo?  The USD will be destroyed, and the stock market will go to 20,000.  But with just enough volatility and pullbacks that the little guy sells for a loss.  And stackers and preppers will have their stacks and preparations confiscated, for the good of the country, of course.  Those evil hoarders.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:38 | 6862307 MadVladtheconquerer
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So, what you are saying is that my shorts/puts are not going to work!

Bugger!

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:58 | 6862747 skeelos
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The US stock market will not collapse per se, it will be destroyed along with the rest of the country in a single hour in the outpouring of God's wrath (US = Babylon).

Damascus is the largest of the ancient cities which claim to be the oldest continuously inhabited cities in the world. Isaiah 17 predicts that Damascus will no longer be a city and will become a heap of ruins.

So the prophecy of Damascus is being fulfilled right before our eyes, as will the destruction of Babylon. We are in the end times.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:09 | 6862132 Squid Viscous
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where is Satan-yahoo in the chart diagram? oh, I see it's NY Times - masters of dis-information, Sulzberger style

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 19:05 | 6863008 .National Suici...
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He is getting his cock sucked by our current president. Before you laugh too hard, Israeli leaders have been getting sucked off by every single president for the past 34 years.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:08 | 6862134 silverthorn
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Walmart to open three supercenters in Aleppo.   pentalingual applicates needed.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:12 | 6862164 RopeADope
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Obama the Nobel Peace Prize winner...committing genocide on behalf of foreign interests.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:13 | 6862168 Bill of Rights
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All in bed together...this is the most disgusting bunch of scum leadership ever in the history of this planet.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:22 | 6862219 pods
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Mos Eisley without the spaceships.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:13 | 6862171 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Describing this as a civil war is palpable nonsense.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/

This is a proxy war on Syria by the us/israel and the saudis, turks, and others.

It is not about democracy.

It us not about human rights.

It is about US and Israel remaking the middle east.

In blood and fire.

For private central bankers, to further threaten/weaken Russia, and most of all - for Ersatz Israel.

http://m.journal-neo.org/2015/10/26/genies-and-genocide-syria-israel-rus...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:35 | 6862283 Herd Redirectio...
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I've mentioned this angle for a while.  What is the benefit of naming an invasion a civil war?  Well, there are many.  And hence, invasions are termed civil wars (for the benefit of the invaders).

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:17 | 6862186 mendigo
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If you search cluster fuck on wikipedia you will find more info on this war as well as smiling face of obomber.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:21 | 6862206 divedivedive
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Recently I was remembering my youth - when at the end of the day the family would gather around the dinner table and the TV would be on in the background. Walter Cronkite would be on TV talking about the Vietnam War. It seemed like every night he had a report on the Viet Cong vs. American casualties - with numbers - to really convey what progress if any was being made (now those number were probably made up, I don't know). I miss Walter Cronkite.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:28 | 6862245 MadVladtheconquerer
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Yepper.  Walter Cronkite made up a lotta shit. 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 18:05 | 6862776 barroter
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Cronkite finally concluded that Vietnam was a pathetic joke on his news program. I believe after Tet.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:22 | 6862213 WhackoWarner
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/turkeys-blockade-of-russian-naval-vessels-access-to-the-mediterranean-russias-black-sea-fleet-completely-cut-off/5492688

 

Turkey controls marine traffic.  Oh boy oh boy oh boy.  Now what?  Got a crazy regime in charge of WW3 detonation.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:36 | 6862295 MadVladtheconquerer
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Hmmmm.  Well, given that the Bosporus IS sovereign Turkish territory much like the Mississippi River is sovereign US territory, there is not much Uncle Vladdy can

do about it.  If true, another piece in the puzzle falls into place.  Of course, the source is about as reliable as Pravda or Debka.  Remaining pieces to be played include arming

Ukraine w/ lethal aid and fomenting terrorism in Dagestan/Chechnya.

"Come on 'Dillos!  Let's get it on!"

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:12 | 6862502 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Whats sovereign territory and why is it libya, afghanistan, iraq, yemen, ukraine, Syria, etc dont seem to have it?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 19:44 | 6863174 Ides of November
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Not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse, but aha - looking at your name I know you are.

Turkey closing the Bosphorus Strait to any country is an ACT OF WAR pure and simple.

They are not allowed to do that unless they are IN A WAR.

Vlad has every right to attack Turkey given Turkey has declared War on Russia - if that is what they've done.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:23 | 6862214 smacker
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I think it's misguided to characterise Cameron as "Not thrilled with Assad but even less thrilled with ISIS".

He may not be thrilled with ISIS but I suspect that Cameron has been covertly involved in the attempted overthrow of Assad from early on (special forces working with the US to recruit and train rebel terrorists). His stated objective now of bombing ISIS and hunting down its leaders may prove to be false, because he will do nothing to reduce the possibility of Assad being removed. Like the US, it means he may want to check ISIS and weaken it but not to eliminate it.

And he will do nothing to eliminate any other terrorist group, despite his statement today on TV that he wants to help bring the civil war in Syria to an end, whilst forgetting that he was instrumental in starting it.

Such hypocrisy.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:55 | 6862393 Blue Vervain
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Exactly true. The UK government's arguement for war on the radio, in the papers, on tv always closes with a comment on the need for transition from "butcher Assad", "Assad who murders and tortures his own people", "Assad's bloody reign of terror" (all literal quotes).

I've looked for evidence for Assad's war crimes but as soon as you seek the detail of the allegations they just peter out. Claimed footage of barrel bombs turns out to show nothing of significance. The still-much-quoted Syrian Observatory on Human Rights turned out to be a single UK blogger in a suburban street rather than a Syrian organisation. And even some Western intelligence agencies are admitting the Chemical Weapons attack was not the work of the Syrian military. Where is the evidence against Assad? It's a scarce as Saddam's WMDs.

 

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:18 | 6862549 smacker
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Too right.

I'm sure that Assad is no angel but nor are most governments. GW Bush presided over the torture and murder of countless people in Iraq, Afghanistan and Gitmo.

On the Assads, I believe he is far less savage than his father who was seemingly paranoid. There used to be talk about a black painted concrete building off the road from the Damascus airport to downtown which housed the Secret Police HQ. The stories about what used to go on there are no one's business.

But none of that explains why the West want him out of office: it's all about the gas pipelines and his refusal to allow the Qatar pipeline across Syria. He prefers the Iranian one. Doubtless his refusal to join the Western banking system and take on debt is another reason.

 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 18:50 | 6862937 unicorn
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Arbitrary Arrests, Enforced Disappearances, Torture, Deaths in Custody by Government Forces

Syrian security forces continue to detain people arbitrarily, regularly subjecting them to ill-treatment and torture, and often disappearing them using an extensive network of detention facilities throughout Syria. Many detainees were young men in their 20s or 30s; but children, women, and elderly people were also detained. In some instances, individuals reported that security forces detained their family members, including children, to pressure them to turn themselves in. On August 30, the Syrian Network for Human Rights, a local monitoring group, estimated that 85,000 people were currently being held by the government in conditions that amount to enforced disappearance.

Released detainees consistently report ill-treatment and torture in detention facilities and prison conditions that lead to many cases of deaths in custody. Four former detainees released from the Sednaya military prison in 2014 described deaths in custody and harsh prison conditions that closely match the allegations of mass deaths in custody by a military defector made in January, who photographed thousands of dead bodies in military hospitals in Damascus. At least 2,197 detainees died in custody in 2014, according to local activists.

 

(copy from human rights watch world report: https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2015/country-chapters/syria  )

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:18 | 6862458 NuYawkFrankie
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The only time that Cameron gets a thrill is when he's rear-ending something going "Oink! Oink!" - while dreaming of Nutt&Yahoo behind him.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:22 | 6862567 smacker
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"Oink! Oink!"

That sounds like the bitch Home Secretary Theresa May ;-)

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:26 | 6862235 N57Mike
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“‘Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel: Drink, be drunk and vomit, fall and rise no more, because of the sword that I am sending among you." Jeremiah 25:27

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:36 | 6862270 Demdere
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What an ideal situation for political game players : way to complex for anyone to understand, and so much less to explain, whatever you do or whatever the outcome.

When your goal is more chaos, a playing field like that is exactly what you need.

Our Israeli-neocons mean to dominate the world with military and economic force. In the year 2015, it is not clear to them and most of the world political people that they have lost. It should be clear to the rest of us that they can make things very bad, Hitler, Stalin and Mao bad. That must be so, if they do not win, an honest investigation of 9/11 will result in their heads put in nooses for a short drop.

They use exaclty the same mechanisms of seizing and wielding power as those tyrants, and they are succeeding : 9/11 was a false flag operation of theirs, and MSM has not allowed that known fact to have any political effect anywhere in the world.

So win or hang, is their incentive plan.  Exciting times coming.

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/30/the-next-false-flag/

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/28/nsas-capabilities-have-nev...

So the race is against the consequences of their psyops causing craziness everywhere and the consequent draconian laws enabling their police states and gulags vs the rest of us rejecting the hate and distrust they need to make us accept those.

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/09/21/germanys-jewish-problem/

Too make things really bad, we have to cooperate.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:36 | 6862293 YHC-FTSE
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Any article that refers to the Syrian government as a "Regime" is immediately suspect imo. Same language has been used all over the msm for other countries just before every lie under the sun is printed about them as a pretext for war.

Of the stories that stand out about Assad's Syria, one is the alleged chemical weapons use on his own people - now debunked beyond doubt which was used as the pretext for the US invasion in 2013. The other is the alleged systematic torture of his people captured on a flash drive by "Caesar" and then used as, wait for it, a graphic exhibition of torture at the "National Holocaust Museum" in Washington, then at the UN in New York. That's right, the Jewish "Holocaust museum" and the same Washington government which imprisoned whistleblowers for showing images and videos of torture and murder done by the US forces, then promptly classified everything from public view. Ironic.

By the Pentagon's own admission, there are around 5 Syrians in the "Syrian Free Army". Assad missed a trick by not allying himself with the YPG before the Obama regime turned them with military toys. Pity, because they are pretty effective fighters against ISIS and would have worked well with Syria. 

It's simple: The US State Dept, the CIA and its proxy fighters allied to Turkey/Saudi/Qatar have gone FULL RETARD. Everything else is the fallout from its batshit craziness whilst the Israelis reap the geopolitical benefits and ISIS oil quietly pulling the strings with Vicky Nuland.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:44 | 6862332 Demdere
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As I say above and the links, I think the explanations are best from the pov of chaos being the goal to distract everything from 9/11, which is always on the edge of becoming a political problem for the administration.  If one major person breaks their major doubts in just the right way, our Israeli-neocon crowd will be all hung.  Simple motivations and they don't care about the results of anyuthing, just the cost of keeping the distractions alive.

 

ISIS bombs in Paris ? Great! for Israeli-neocon interests, not so good for the rest of us.  Oil other benefits pay for political support, are not the primary motivation.  Power is that motivation, and now fear as things are unraveling a bit faster than memories fade and things can be re-raveled.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 23:17 | 6864009 hedgiex
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Yes. It is all about keeping the oil flowing and with it the recyclying of the petrol dollar as well as the military hardwares outsourced to US. Israel is the epic center. Anything that disrupts these flows will lead to new configurations. For the Oligarchs, where Israel only matters, will blow hot and cold to exploit the divides btw the Shites (Iran) and Sunnis (Saudi) as well as curbing the old cold war mindsets of the US military establishments to escalate a Russia containment agenda. (Their funds are not meant for these ego trips). 

Collateral damages to proxies are not the concerns. Turkey is now useful as part of NATO and has the platform to spread the virus to EC. Like all proxies, it will also be abandoned when mission is accomplished. Paradoxically, there will be no WW3 when nations become proxies dependent on fund flows. Sabre ratlings are side shows, just tolerated outlets for the confused preys. 

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:46 | 6862345 Raymond_K._Hessel
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The NeoCon Propaganda Machine Pushing “Regime Change” in Syria
http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/01/06/the-neocon-propaganda-machine-pus...

NYT’s New Propaganda on Syria
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/06/04/nyts-new-propaganda-syria

We live in a world where the us just imposed new sanctions on syria for purportedly buying oil from isis, while israel buys far more of it, with no danger of sanctions (ever) as the us and israel support isis.

http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-israel-buys-most-oil-smuggled-from-is...

Cute.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:51 | 6862355 NuYawkFrankie
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Two glaring omissions from that first Mugs Gallery:
1) ISISrael's NUTT&YAHOO
2) USSA ZIO-SCUMMM*

(SCUMMM* - Satanic Cabal Underwriting Mass-Murder & Mayhem:
Example: Rat-Face(Wolfowitz) and the KKK(Kagan Kriminal Kabal) )

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 16:56 | 6862411 BeaverCream
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Civilians, Stop signing up to go to war for these fucks. 

Police, Refuse to enforce any law that requires conscription.

=No more ZIO war

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:03 | 6862456 Wahooo
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You forgot the banking players.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:04 | 6862462 turtle
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Remember the aim is to keep you distracted.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:14 | 6862524 besnook
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any article on the mideast clusterfuck that does not include israel as part of the analysis is pure, refined bullshit.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:31 | 6862604 JimmyRainbow
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dont worry about the germans, half of the total of german jets

are downed for repairs

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:34 | 6862628 taketheredpill
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The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend.

 

When does ISIS get invited to the White House?  The Taliban got to see it.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 20:45 | 6862672 jacship
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DeathCon 111

 

 
add what tyler wrote above

 

what could go right?

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:47 | 6862692 Raymond_K._Hessel
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The US-Russia Proxy War in Syria
December 1, 2015

Exclusive: The risk of Syria becoming a proxy war between the U.S. and Russia became real last week when Turkey and Syrian jihadists used U.S.-supplied weaponry to shoot down a Russian warplane and rescue helicopter, killing two Russians, a danger that ex-CIA analyst Ray McGovern explores.
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/12/01/the-us-russia-proxy-war-in-syria/

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:57 | 6862740 Noplebian
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We are heading for WW3 and nothing or no one will stop it from happening......

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 17:58 | 6862748 madashellron
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John Kerry Admits They're Making "Order Out of Chaos" for "World Order".

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbz7SyyXbGM

 



Tue, 12/01/2015 - 18:35 | 6862885 will ling
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hey vlad! you owe it to humanity to keep the nukes tweaked and let loose if need be. and.... if the fucking chinese don't immediately have your back save 'bout 1,000 for them.

man has got to do what he has to do vlad.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 19:02 | 6862989 Heady
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There is a mistake in the graphics. In the ANTI ASSAD section, you have the Free Syrian Army with wrong icon/symbol. It should be a green stripe with 3 red stars. The current color template is the current Syrian flag. Wondering who made this graphics? (AH)

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 19:04 | 6863002 o r c k
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Not one in 100,000 Americans know ANYTHING about ANY of this but that ridiculous red-arrow chart will EASILY serve it's purpose of keeping those 100,000 Americans permanently stupid.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 19:32 | 6863079 NuYawkFrankie
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Look at those poor people in that photograph.
THAT is the handiwork of the USSA/UK/ISISrael ROGUE REGIMES.

Tue, 12/01/2015 - 20:33 | 6863402 Ms No
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The NY Times takes the cake for exceptional.  That picture in the article is incredible.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 00:35 | 6864273 onmail1
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Russians are the chess masters

They have surrounded Europe from 2 sides 

Russia must station very large war machinary in Syria

(once ISIS is controlled)

in preparation for a large scale war with west

because it is all a game of greed

west wants cheap oil

and for that west can do anything 

even it will risk going to nuclear war

In that event a large establishment in Syria can be very beneficial to Russia

Then Russia can fight Europe as well as western backed Middle east nations 

such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc with the help of Iran.

And America , you know what to do

Last time (few decades ago) a Russian FM went to America and said .....

 

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 06:12 | 6864700 zilverstier
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The chess pieces are set, all important NATO countries are moving their assets. Even Germany is now involved. Following orders from NATO HQ. When is Germany going to break loose and allign itself with Russia? Ai, yes, forgot, not allowed according to the Heartland Theory. Will France come in a direct confrontation with Russia? Will an indicident between FR and Russia unleash WWIII? 

For the Dutchies, I found a comprehensvie article on the coming World War III with a lot of references to articles of Zerohedge and video presentations: Analyse Derde Wereldoorlog. The article discusses all recent events and the parties involved and follows the money trial.... 

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