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The Fall Of America Signals The Rise Of The New World Order

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Submitted by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market.com,

“The contemporary quest for world order will require a coherent strategy to establish a concept of order within the various regions and to relate these regional orders to one another.”Henry Kissinger, “Henry Kissinger On The Assembly Of A New World Order”

 

“[P]art of people’s concern is just the sense that around the world the old order isn’t holding and we’re not quite yet to where we need to be in terms of a new order that’s based on a different set of principles, that’s based on a sense of common humanity, that’s based on economies that work for all people.” Barack Obama

 

“We reiterate our strong commitment to the United Nations (UN) as the foremost multilateral forum entrusted with bringing about hope, peace, order and sustainable development to the world. The UN enjoys universal membership and is at the center of global governance and multilateralism.”Fifth BRICS Summit Declaration

 

“We support the reform and improvement of the international monetary system, with a broad-based international reserve currency system providing stability and certainty. We welcome the discussion about the role of the SDR in the existing international monetary system including the composition of SDR’s basket of currencies. We support the IMF to make its surveillance framework more integrated and even-handed.” Fifth BRICS Summit Declaration

Here is where many political and economic analysts go terribly wrong in their examination of current global paradigms: They tend to blindly believe the mainstream narrative rather than taking into account conflicting actions and statements by political and financial leaders. Even in the liberty movement, composed of some of the most skeptical and media savvy people on planet Earth, the cancers of assumption and bias often take hold.

Some liberty proponents are more than happy to believe in particular mainstream dynamics. They are happy to believe, for example, that the growing “conflict” between the East and West is legitimate rather than engineered.

You can list off quotation after quotation and policy action after policy action proving that Eastern governments, including China and Russia, work hand in hand with globalist institutions like the International Monetary Fund, the Bank of International Settlements, the World Bank and the U.N. toward the goal of global governance and global economic centralization. But these people simply will not listen. They MUST believe that the U.S. is the crowning villain, and that the East is in heroic opposition. They are so desperate for a taste of hope they are ready to consume the poison of false dichotomies.

The liberty movement is infatuated with the presumption that the U.S. government and the banking elites surrounding it are at the “top” of the new world order pyramid and are “clamoring for survival” as the U.S. economy crumbles under the facade of false government and central banking statistics. How many times have we heard over the past year alone that the Federal Reserve has “backed itself into a corner” or policy directed itself “between a rock and a hard place?”

I have to laugh at the absurdity of such a viewpoint because central bankers and internationalists have always used economic instability as a means to gain political and social advantage. The consolidation of world banking power alone after the Great Depression is a testament to this fact. And even former Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke has admitted (at least in certain respects) that the Federal Reserve was responsible for that terrible implosion, an implosion that conveniently served the interests of international cartel banks like JPMorgan.

But the Federal Reserve is no more than an appendage of a greater system; it is NOT the brains of the operation.

In his book “Tragedy And Hope,” Carroll Quigley, Council on Foreign Relations member and mentor to Bill Clinton, stated:

"It must not be felt that these heads of the world’s chief central banks were themselves substantive powers in world finance. They were not. Rather, they were the technicians and agents of the dominant investment bankers of their own countries, who had raised them up and were perfectly capable of throwing them down. The substantive financial powers of the world were in the hands of these investment bankers (also called “international” or “merchant” bankers) who remained largely behind the scenes in their own unincorporated private banks. These formed a system of international cooperation and national dominance which was more private, more powerful, and more secret than that of their agents in the central banks."

In “Ruling The World Of Money,” Harper’s Magazine established what Quigley admitted in “Tragedy And Hope” — that the control of the global economic policy and, by extension, political policy is dominated by a select few elites, namely through the unaccountable institutional framework of the BIS.

The U.S. and the Federal Reserve are mere tentacles of the great vampire squid that is the new world order. And being a tentacle makes one, to a certain extent, expendable, if the trade will result in even greater centralization of power.

The delusion that some people within the liberty movement are under is that the fall of America will result in the fall of the new world order. In reality, the fall of America is a necessary step towards the RISE of the new world order. The Rothschild-owned financial magazine The Economist reaffirmed this trend of economic “harmonization” in its 1988 article “Get Ready For A World Currency By 2018,” which described the creation of a global currency called the “Phoenix” over three decades:

"The phoenix zone would impose tight constraints on national governments. There would be no such thing, for instance, as a national monetary policy. The world phoenix supply would be fixed by a new central bank, descended perhaps from the IMF. The world inflation rate — and hence, within narrow margins, each national inflation rate — would be in its charge. Each country could use taxes and public spending to offset temporary falls in demand, but it would have to borrow rather than print money to finance its budget deficit. With no recourse to the inflation tax, governments and their creditors would be forced to judge their borrowing and lending plans more carefully than they do today. This means a big loss of economic sovereignty, but the trends that make the phoenix so appealing are taking that sovereignty away in any case."

 

"...The phoenix would probably start as a cocktail of national currencies, just as the Special Drawing Right is today. In time, though, its value against national currencies would cease to matter, because people would choose it for its convenience and the stability of its purchasing power."

We are now on the cusp of the “prediction” set forth by The Economist over 27 years ago. The BRICS nations, including Vladimir Putin’s Russia, have all consistently called for the formation of a global reserve currency system under the direct control of the IMF and predicated on the basket methodology of the SDR. This new global system, as The Economist suggested, requires the marginalization of existing power structures and the end of sovereign economic control. Governments around the world including the U.S. would be at the fiscal mercy of the new financial high priests through the use of insidious debt based incentives given or withheld at the whim of the IMF.

China is set to be inducted into the SDR basket in 2015, with specific economic changes to be made by September 2016, a development I have been warning about for years. The "vote" is in and the decision has been finalized.  While some in the mainstream media are playing off the rise of the Yuan as meaningless, IMF head Christine Lagarde presents the shift as a major event, not for China, but for the IMF and the SDR which she proudly refers to as the "currency of currencies".

 

The addition of China to the SDR, I believe, is the next trigger event for the continuing removal of the dollar as the world reserve currency. The monetary shift may explode with speed if Saudi Arabia follows through with a possible plan to depeg from the dollar, effectively ending the petrodollar status the U.S. has enjoyed for decades.

This is, of course, the same IMF-controlled SDR system that Putin and the Kremlin have called for, despite the running fantasy that Putin is somehow an opponent of the globalists.

Putin continues to press the “U.S. as bumbling villain” narrative, while at the same time supporting globalist institutions and the internationalization of economic and political governance. While many people were overly focused on his “calling out” of the U.S. and its involvement in the creation of ISIS in his recent speech at the U.N., they seemed to have completely overlooked his adoration of the United Nations and the development of a global governing body. Putin often speaks at cross purposes just as Barack Obama does — one minute supporting sovereignty and freedom, the next minute calling for global centralization:

"Russia is ready to work together with its partners to develop the UN further on the basis of a broad consensus, but we consider any attempts to undermine the legitimacy of the United Nations as extremely dangerous. They may result in the collapse of the entire architecture of international relations, and then indeed there will be no rules left except for the rule of force."

 

"Dear colleagues, ensuring peace and global and regional stability remains a key task for the international community guided by the United Nations. We believe this means creating an equal and indivisible security environment that would not serve a privileged few, but everyone."

Putin also proclaimed his support for the UN's fight against "climate change", the same climate change which Secretary of State John Kerry argued was a "contributing factor" in the crisis in Syria and the rise of ISIS.  I have written in the past on the fraud of "man made climate change (global warming)" and will not enter that tangent here now, but the point remains that Putin is fully on board with said fraud like all other puppet politicians around the globe:

"...One more issue that shall affect the future of the entire humankind is climate change. It is in our interest to ensure that the coming UN Climate Change Conference that will take place in Paris in December this year should deliver some feasible results. As part of our national contribution, we plan to limit greenhouse gas emissions to 70–75 percent of the 1990 levels by the year 2030."

 

"It is indeed a challenge of global proportions. And I am confident that humanity does have the necessary intellectual capacity to respond to it. We need to join our efforts, primarily engaging countries that possess strong research and development capabilities, and have made significant advances in fundamental research. We propose convening a special forum under the auspices of the UN to comprehensively address issues related to the depletion of natural resources, habitat destruction, and climate change. Russia is willing to co-sponsor such a forum."

one more issue that shall affect the future of the entire humankind is climate change. It is in our interest to ensure that the coming UN Climate Change Conference that will take place in Paris in December this year should deliver some feasible results. As part of our national contribution, we plan to limit greenhouse gas emissions to 70–75 percent of the 1990 levels by the year 2030. - See more at: http://www.russianmission.eu/en/news/president-vladimir-putin-addresses-...
It is indeed a challenge of global proportions. And I am confident that humanity does have the necessary intellectual capacity to respond to it. We need to join our efforts, primarily engaging countries that possess strong research and development capabilities, and have made significant advances in fundamental research. We propose convening a special forum under the auspices of the UN to comprehensively address issues related to the depletion of natural resources, habitat destruction, and climate change. Russia is willing to co-sponsor such a forum. - See more at: http://www.russianmission.eu/en/news/president-vladimir-putin-addresses-...

Indeed, it has been Putin’s intention all along to support and defend the internationalist framework while at the same time participating in the theatrical East versus West false paradigm:

"In the BRICS case we see a whole set of coinciding strategic interests.

 

First of all, this is the common intention to reform the international monetary and financial system. In the present form it is unjust to the BRICS countries and to new economies in general. We should take a more active part in the IMF and the World Bank’s decision-making system. The international monetary system itself depends a lot on the US dollar, or, to be precise, on the monetary and financial policy of the US authorities. The BRICS countries want to change this."

The Chinese support the same agenda of an IMF managed economic world:

The world economic crisis shows the "inherent vulnerabilities and systemic risks in the existing international monetary system," Gov. Zhou Xiaochuan said in an essay released Monday by the bank. He recommended creating a currency made up of a basket of global currencies and controlled by the International Monetary Fund and said it would help "to achieve the objective of safeguarding global economic and financial stability."

It is rather interesting how the desires of the BRICS seem to directly coincide with the designs of international bankers. This Hegelian dialectic is perhaps the most elaborate public distraction of all time, with the ultimate solution to the artificially engineered problem being a single “multilateral” but centrally dictated world economic system and world government, i.e., the new world order.

Again, the globalists at the BIS and the IMF require a diminished U.S. dollar, greatly reduced U.S. living standards and a much smaller U.S. geopolitical footprint before they can establish and finalize a single publicly accepted global elitist oligarchy.

If you cannot understand why it seems that the Federal Reserve and U.S. government appear hell-bent on self-destruction, then perhaps you should consider the facts and motivations at hand. Then, you’ll realize it is THEIR JOB to destroy America, not save America. When you are finally willing to accept this reality, every disastrous development since the inception of the Fed a century ago, as well as all that is about to happen in the next few years, makes perfect sense.

This is not to say that the ultimate endgame of the new world order will result in victory. But the cold, hard, concrete evidence shows that internationalists do have a plan; they are implementing that plan systematically; and all major governments around the world are participating in that plan. This plan involves the inevitable collapse and reformation of America into a Third World enclave, a goal that is nearly complete, as I will outline in my next article.

As the U.S. destabilizes, we are not escaping the clutches of the Federal Reserve system, only trading out one totalitarian management model for another. It is absolutely vital that the liberty movement in particular finally and fully embrace this reality. If we do not, then there will truly be no obstacle to such a plan’s success and no end to the tyrannies of the old world or the new world.

 

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Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:04 | 6869240 IridiumRebel
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Yep, we are too "exceptional"(we were at least) and they need us sucking like the rest.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:49 | 6869371 Anonymous User
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Who cares?

Not the 98%.  They just twerk...

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Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:59 | 6869391 Johnny Horscaulk
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I bet you have a fat tired wife you are too fat and tired to fuck and eat lots of shitty carbs.

Tell me I'm wrong.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:16 | 6869414 Four chan
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Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:35 | 6869453 Money Counterfeiter
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Zionist eat pork.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 05:49 | 6869782 Baby Bladeface
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Thu, 12/03/2015 - 07:32 | 6869859 Isy
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World War 3 already started!

All the weapons in the world won't matter once ISIS army kick into gear!

http://motivationdose.com/electromagnetic-pulse-attack-emp-blackout-usa-...

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 08:23 | 6869920 JRobby
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Thanks Baby. It is the internet after all. I for one am very happy that ZH focuses it's efforts bringing the alternative to MSM and not to policing the comments like so many other sites do.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 07:47 | 6869868 Cheduba
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I have to believe that what we have lived through WAS the New World Order.  They seek absolute control over everything, right?  Isn't that what has happened in the 150 years since the civil war with behemoth governments, police state, electronic surveillance, everyone crowding into the cities with no one growing their own food, people flocking into useless financial careers with no real and valuable skills, etc.?

The NWO depends heavily on the most complicated system imaginable - a globally interconnected supply chain with just-in-time inventory everywhere around the globe.  Complexity breeds fragility and the mega corporations only dominated through a global economy of scale - what happens when they finally have to face (gasp!) competition?

 

The control grid also relied heavily on an unaware populace eating up propoganda from state owned media.  How would you control a billion pissed off and aware Chinese people, for example?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 09:03 | 6869997 Dr. Spin
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This only works if you have a willing and able workforce.  The useless eaters today are in a large part neither willing nor able...

I gave you a BIG + for your observation about people flocking into useless financial careers...

F$CK THE MAMMONITES!!!  

Spoctor Din

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 09:41 | 6870109 BramsMountainFo...
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Personally, I'd love to believe that BIS, and not Robert Kagan and his wife, are running the show with Putin as part of the Kabuki Theater.

1. It would mean there's little danger of a real full nuclear exchange. 

2. It would mean there's little danger of a real full nuclear exchange.

3. An engineered dollar collapse complete with theatrics would only serve to wake the western people up to their lying, thieving media/elites/pols. One thing that constantly troubles me now is that the elites are desperate because they realize that they might not get out of even an engineered collapse with their own personal freedom or lives. 

But, if they are really planning to run a dollar collapse on a schedule, it means desperate things like a last minute effort to collapse Russia militarily aren't on the table.

While it may wipe out half our Social Security benefits (or worse) and there will definitely be rioting everywhere, I think a lot more people would come out of the trauma as far, far more aware of the world and less likely to believe media propaganda.

The US military empire would have to pull back with no pay coming to soldiers.

So I don't see how forces of centralization would get stronger.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 10:50 | 6870370 TuPhat
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When you don't see how they will get stronger, they then have the upper hand and will win.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 10:55 | 6870398 SWRichmond
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One of the things which I think most people can't understand is just how much complicity you can buy with $Trillions of dollars.  "It is difficult to get a man to underatand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 10:54 | 6870390 SWRichmond
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1. There are too many things being done "wrong" in American and by America that it cannot be simply due to stupidity; America IS being deliberately destroyed, I think that's obvious.  Too many obviously unsustainable paths being deliberately force-marched, all at the same time (military, economic, social, moral, spiritual).

2. There are no saviours on the international stage.  Everyone above the rank of dog catcher is arguably a sociopath.  None can be trusted.

3. A surprising amount of time has elapsed since the advent of the collapse; "they" have enedeavored to keep the system alive, when a sudden collapse years ago would have IMO made it simpler for "them" to implement their agenda.  Lots of people have woken up over the past few years.  There's a lot of frustration and anger among the middle class, as it has become obvious to them that they are being shredded, and on purpose.  To me this indicates disagreement among the sociopaths about how to proceed.

4. Kissinger is Satan incarnate.  If there are such a thing as lizard-people, he is certainly one of them.

5. Individuals must realize (and increasingly ARE realizing) that they cannot simply keep their heads down, work and raise kids, and let others run things.  This is how the sociopaths take over.  Involvement must be constant.  This is why the Tea Party and OWS had to be co-opted and killed, using the resources of the rich and shameless.  Both were actual threats, in large part because they were organic at the beginning.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:02 | 6869492 Winston of Oceania
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What no safe area?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:19 | 6869519 cornflakesdisease
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Reported.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 05:11 | 6869728 Ghordius
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don't forget to report Putin, too. as this article suggests, he is an evil, evil "internationalist" /S   lol

finally the American Exceptionalist Propaganda - famous for their tell-tale term "globalists" - is coming out of the closet and points fingers...

... to everyone else

face it, it's either American Exceptionalism - which, btw, is defined roughly as "it's ok if the US does it, otherwise it's a bad thing" OR "the New Newest Newer World Order" which of course means that the US is forced by the evil Asians, the evil Europeans, the evil Africans and the evil South and Middle Americans to become a...

..."Third World Hell". Don't think logically, don't look for facts. Put America First, Whatever, "My Country, right or wrong, by Jingo!", rah, rah, rah

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 06:03 | 6869794 Baby Bladeface
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The author forgot what abundance or mass production is. Curious for an American as abundance was key in their so called exceptional project.

What is happening is that the conditions that allowed the exceptional illusion are disappearing.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 06:43 | 6869815 Frankie Carbone
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Hmm, I have made the fatal error of logically deconstructing your blather and have concluded that it is a false dichotomy. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 09:41 | 6870108 Ghordius
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Hmm, I have made the fatal error of logically deconstructing your blather and have concluded that... you have no argument

I brought forth a definition for exceptionalism, I maintain that "globalist" is an ill-defined word used in exceptionalist propaganda, and that it's propaganda blaming everything on evil "internationalists" like Putin and the usual "globalist" constructs like the UN, the BIS, the EU, whatever is foreign

is this still Fight Club?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 10:55 | 6870399 TuPhat
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The 'american exceptionalism' idea and the NWO are on the same team.  The idea that america can run the world and will then fail and the globalists will take over is what the plan is.  Your comments show that you are quite confused and did not understand the article at all.  Try reading it again and think about what you are reading rather than thinking about it in the light of your failed european experiment.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 11:12 | 6870501 Ghordius
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I grok that, and you did summarize it quite well. so? it's still rubbish, and my "failed" european experiment is still an european "experiment" and Putin is still, according to this theory, an "internationalist", meaning that he is opposed to the idea of america running the whole world as it pleases, without regard to anything except it's domestic issues

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:13 | 6872401 Sparehead
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I'm offended by shitty carbs. My old lady is still worth the effort, but that may be due to the carb thing.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:05 | 6870867 bamboo
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You do come to the wrong place to keep on posting the pron link. Just do it somewhere else where readers may appreciate your pron stuffs. You aren't welcome here!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:24 | 6869429 Perimetr
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Bah, humbug.

You lost me when you started explaining how Putin is in on the plot.  Sorry, Putin has made it quite clear that Russia does not accept the idea of a single, unipolar world run by any nation or group of ideologues, oligarchs, whatever.

Putin is a statesman and a diplomat, unlike those running the Western governments, which leads him to use diplomatic language.  This is not a sign of weakness but of strength.  It is the West, at the behest of the banksters, which is driving hard towards war, not Russia. It is the West, not Russia and China, that has created a quadrillion dollars worth of paper debt, which is on the verge of destroying the Western financial system.

But it is the East (possible exception Germany) which has become the industrial engine of the world and the West is fully dependent upon Eastern industrial goods. The time will soon come when these goods will not willingly be exchanged for Western debt, unless world war precedes this event.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:39 | 6869459 Blankone
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Is it that surprising someone who sits at their table would lie?

From the article - Putin also proclaimed his support for the UN's fight against "climate change"

That alone puts Putin in a bad light.  Climate change is to be used as a key control tool.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:31 | 6869537 Billy the Poet
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"My father taught me many things here — he taught me in this room. He taught me — keep your friends close but your enemies closer."

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 05:08 | 6869737 turtle
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This argument about Putin... again.  He has played a fine game but is yet to prove himself to be the real deal. Let's see what he knows about 911... 

http://redefininggod.com/2015/11/lets-cut-the-crap-vladimir-putin-is-helping-usher-in-the-globalist-new-world-order/

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 05:31 | 6869738 turtle
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Or read Brandon Smith's comments in the discussion on his own website: http://alt-market.com/articles/2753-the-fall-of-america-signals-the-rise...

 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:35 | 6869546 Gavrikon
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And you believe he meant it?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:46 | 6869572 Zero Point
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I don't believe ANY world leader means it.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:35 | 6869634 Billy the Poet
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But President Bush looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul. And George W. Bush is nobody's fool.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 04:24 | 6869688 jeff montanye
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he's everybody's fool.

parts of the post sound convincing, the rothschild owned economist article for instance.

but putin might support international organizations like the u.n. where russia has a veto over a world "led" by the u.s. that overthrows the ukrainian government by force, that invents and supports daesh which takes down a russian passenger plane, that bombs and subverts russia's ally assad and that puts onerous economic sanctions on russia and russians close to putin. 

wouldn't you?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:57 | 6869481 Implied Violins
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You might want to look through this post showing Putin's vacillating on his policies towards the west over the last 15 years before making that initial statement. Putin is *very* much the bankster's man:

http://redefininggod.com/2015/11/lets-cut-the-crap-vladimir-putin-is-hel...

Brandon Smith also has written several articles outlining Putin's dealings with the IMF and world bank as well. All of this shitshow going down is just another version of divide and conquer/Hegelian dialectic. What was that quote..."We shall lead all revolutions against us". What better way to stay in control of everything than to infiltrate your enemies and lead them in the direction you want to go?

Thesis::antithesis = synthesis. Such has been the way of the elites through the last six changes in the reserve currency, and even before. Same as it ever was...

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:56 | 6869588 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Ive read it. Its almost, but not entirely, total bullshit.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:05 | 6869597 runningman18
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It's all facts, listed and linked.  Your bias is showing...

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:39 | 6869641 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Its not all facts but the issue is the inferences.

have you considered that maybe you are convinced of something that isnt so?

Possible is not the same as probable. Your bias perhaps latched on to a sexy theory that few seem to consider and thats exciting.

But is it *possible* that youve been sold an idea to discredit putin/russia by the people who are attacking putin/russia?

The facts you allege do not lead to the cobclusion you've made.

Hey - maybe I am too biased to see my own inability to see some fact or relation that suggests an elaborate nwo potemkin conflict.

But - considering ww1, ww2, cold war, fall of the ussr, the economic rape of russia by jews (sorry - it mstly was) under the bolsheviks and the oligarchs a the jewishness of the exiles ir inprisoned oligarchs, us coup in ukraine...

No... i think I am right on this one.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 04:43 | 6869704 runningman18
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Well, I haven't necessarily made any conclusions, but what few inferences there are in the article were supported by facts and evidence.  You ignored them and then offered an opinion.  Then, you presented more opinions without countering anything specific in the article, and then said, "I think I'm right on this one".  The problem is, you have yet to provide any proof or counter-evidence to show that your are right about anything.  Are we just supposed to take your word for it?   This is what I mean by "bias"... 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 20:55 | 6873508 conscious being
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# "but what few inferences there are in the article were supported by facts and evidence."

Instead of claiming these "facts and evidence" that support your collusion claim, please share with us the specific facts or evidence that support your case? What a lame way to argue. Maybe you are incapable of finding anything in Bandon's OP that supports your claim? Did you even read the OP? Or are you just certain there's a heap of good stuff in there?

Without being able to make or defend a cogent argument, it looks like your just playing your part in a reworked attempt to attack Putin. If not then state your argument. Try this - Putin and Russia are part of the NWO because ... Thanks.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 08:31 | 6869940 JRobby
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If you are not a "bankster man" you are an assasinated man.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:19 | 6869520 nosam
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"Putin is a statesman and a diplomat, unlike those running the Western governments"

Putin would not have got to his postition and stayed there unless the Russian system allowed him. The Russian system has been infiltrated by NWO types just like every other government....Unless you believe that the Russian system is incorruptible.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:28 | 6869621 Raymond_K._Hessel
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Wr can agree putin is not the risen lord - but what you are seeing is a concerted effort to find a way to villify Putin when the neocon narrative wont work.

Skepticism is generally healthy of course, but what I note in these good cop anti-Russian Appproaches is theres 2 forms

1) cherry picking to tell a story that says putin is part of a vague, shadowy global cabal. He met with world leaders - so he really is only pretending to oppose us/israeli megalomania. It appeals to the very paranoid style thinker - it seems counterintuitive so it must be whats really going on. But if you look at interests and motives etc it certainly seems more likely that Putin is resisting, as a russian, the us/israeli Grand chessboard/Yinon Plan.

2) the 'its a poor doctor who can't cure cancer' approach of blankone who is a likely paid keyboard monkey given his sheer repetitiveness. He's also repeated falsehood after being shown pretty good evidence he was wrong. Thats a tell. He'll also suggest Putin is just gonna hurt you libertarian fan boys because he abandoned his allies etc - with no even rudimentary attempt to explain how or why a perceived failure to act was a free choice made out of spite (internal locus) rather than a strategic decisin given numerous factors, and ignoring the bare fact russia could and should not be dragged into a 2 front war by nato or endure even more sanctions for a dice roll outcome. In short, the perpetual effort to say putin is bad because he is not perfect is prima facie disingenuous. Its trolling.

That said, we can and should not be mirror images of the more cartoonish neocons who, some of them, seem to possess high school age insight and maturity.

In truth, "the nwo" is a term designed to get you chasing ghosts.. No need.

Who has power in the us, and over the us is absolutely obvious. Its the things you cant discuss and dont see discussed.

Not everything is occult - a great deal of things hide in plain sight.

The us has supported al qaeda over a secular dictator eho as autocrats go is not at all that bad - certainly Assad is Ghandi compared to the saudis and likud. Why? Its not oil or qatari gas or freedom or democracy. Its partly weakening Russian power projection, and weakening iran (oil proce fuckery too) but overall the Zionist Jewish cabal and their networks have endless money and powerful ethnic, ethnocentric networks from the ivy league to state to treasury to brookings aipac cfr jinsa.

But think of the presure to not say so!

http://www.ziomania.com/articles5/Judonia%20Rising-%20The%20Israel%20Lob...

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 04:30 | 6869697 jeff montanye
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well said.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 07:30 | 6869850 Tao 4 the Show
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I also agree it is not obvious that Putin is part of the NWO agenda.

The picture painted by people who push that point of view is that of some lofty NWO castle in the clouds, run in perfect harmony by politicians, etc, and where one is either "in" or "out". Such a fantasy, IMO. Life is complicated and human motives and alliances are the most complicated of all.

Now the truth is that none of us knows what is going on behind the scenes and we can only make inferences. Which explanations seem to fit the observable facts?

Many indicators seem to suggest that the Chinese are allied with the neocons, but certainly not all. Did they accept all the manufacturing capability of the west as a bribe with full intention of a later double cross? Could be. Why not? Or are there simply power struggles going on behind the scenes?

Has Russia played along for years because they were weak, giving every indication they were allied in order to buy time to build their military? Check out some of the Russian defectors over the past several decades and that is exactly the story you will hear. Are the former KGB and GRU guys completely controlled? What guarantees do they have that the final power structure will be to their liking?

I think one needs a highly simplistic world view to assume that there is one "in" and it all works in harmony, without plans for double cross, changed alliiances, end runs, etc.   Ah... the beautiful, idyllic world of political leaders behind the scenes.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 05:41 | 6869773 Baby Bladeface
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This comment Raymond K. Hessel is solid analysis of this transparent propaganda article.

Article's author is, like cartoonish neocons, a rigid doctrinaire and control freak. He only chooses a different wrapper, "liberty movement", to masquerade. His game is not liberty but submission. Reading the text, you have to submit to all the fallacies, half truths, half lies, cheap propaganda and the rest to feel in agreement with the author.

Have ever most Americans favour freedom? Don't look at what they have said, take a closer look at what they have done. The myth of freedom always given high regard or at least lip service as noble concept. However for most Americans the actual assertion of freedom, the implementation in real, is somehow detestable. Double so if occurs in another land and not controlled by Americans.

Article's author is just another guy for whom propaganda is making a living. Always the same drivel over and over again. Best is that he must believe he is deserving every cent he earns from it. That is the only credibility propagandists bother about. Facts, who care about them as long as misinformation, disinformation brings money?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 06:54 | 6869823 runningman18
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Loads of sophistry in your argument, no facts or counter-evidence.  Just random lines of meaningless opinion on the author's personal character or motivations.  It's a sad state of affairs when when someone thinks they can approach a thoroughly evidenced article with that kind of nonsense and come out thinking they made a "solid analysis".   

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 11:05 | 6870461 TuPhat
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The real NWO is not ' us/israeli megalomania'.  It is not directly attributable to any nation but is supranational.  Your narrow viewpoint is leading you to incorrect conclusions.  The article is not specifically anti Putin.  It is specifically anti NWO and cautions us not to look at any political leader as a hero it does use Putin as the main example.  I think you missed the main point.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 04:45 | 6869711 RockySpears
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  .... and in addition:

" we plan to limit greenhouse gas emissions to 70–75 percent of the 1990 levels by the year 2030."

 

This is already achieved,  in 1990 Russia was only just leaving  the USSR behing and its' industry was awful.  The last 25 years saw a massive improvement in  Russian Industry, hugely reducing its' emissions with no thought to climate change.

 

Russia will achieve its tartget because it has already achieved its target due to modernisation, not green policy.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 06:47 | 6869820 Frankie Carbone
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"You Lost Me" is usually a branch unconditionally statement in your programming which instructs you to completely shut down all thought processes and retreat to your happy place, where a good guy (usually wearing a cape, spandex suit and tight fitting mask) exists that will at any minute step into the fray and rescue you from an untenable situation. 

Your cognitive dissonance is showing. I suggest that you tuck that shit in. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 09:53 | 6870138 MilwaukeeMark
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Most of us can take away from this article whatever we chose. The indisputable fact is that in the coming years this country is going to look a lot less like Rodeo Dtive and a whole lot more like San Paulo Brasil

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:32 | 6869626 Noplebian
Thu, 12/03/2015 - 06:10 | 6869797 Baby Bladeface
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This Noplebian character is simple linkspammer spambot. Never responds to other comments, never makes follow up comments.

Simple pattern which can observe and confirm.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 07:28 | 6869854 doctor10
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Understanding the "control systems" of the NWO is critical

http://winteractionables.com/?p=28037

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 09:58 | 6870153 ZH Snob
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there already is a one world currency.  the dollar.  see how well that is working out for everyone? 

even if there is a successful move to a phoenix or anything else, most of the unwashed of the world would prefer and use bartering, if for no other reason than to escape onerous taxation and inflation. 

but people are nothing if not tribal and regional in their values, and the failure of the euro shows that a one-size-fits-all currency is a pipe dream. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 10:46 | 6870346 HardAssets
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Excellent article with a well presented counter view.

Like with so many of these subjects, its impossible to know what the truth is. We, the people arent given the behind-the-scenes information. So we can only give our best guess.

Some people seem to vote articles down based on dislike for the author.

Whatever.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:08 | 6869259 LetThemEatRand
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"The delusion that some people within the liberty movement are under is that the fall of America will result in the fall of the new world order. In reality, the fall of America is a necessary step towards the RISE of the new world order."

It's the same delusion that causes people in the liberty movement to build their philosophy around the writings of a Zionist who proclaimed that industrialists are the answer to the world's problems.  America at its height was the last ultimate great hope for the average guy.  Now we are just the ultimate piggy bank for the industrialist NWO types.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:39 | 6869345 NidStyles
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European Nationalism has been growing by leaps and bounds the past few months. The NWO crowd has been freaking out about it. 

 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 04:18 | 6869682 NidStyles
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You and I don't agree on everything, but I would take a bullet to make sure European peoples remain free. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:43 | 6869466 Otrader
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European Nationalism has been growing by leaps and bounds the past few months. The NWO crowd has been freaking out about it.

No.  It's a divide and rule strategy to keep the plebs eyes away from the money changers that control finance and government.  With the financially low hanging citizenry at each other's throats, it's easier to move the bigger agenda (globalization) forward.  Kinda like the left/right divide strategy that is sent out from the airwaves here in America.  With a nation as divided as ours, the globalists are sailing forward in calm waters while joe sixpacks fight it out.   

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 04:17 | 6869681 NidStyles
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You have no idea what is going on in the world if you think they run it already. They are fighting to take control, they are losing that fight right now as we speak.

 

They haven't a chance to win this, which is why they started it with proapganda from the onset. That's why they use false flags, because they know that they can't win a straight up fight. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 11:20 | 6870546 Otrader
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There is no discussion on how the Europeans will take control of their money back from the banking cartel.  All I'm seeing is the citizens turning on each other and nothing more.  Clearly a successful divide and conquer strategy. 

If I'm missing something then please provide some links. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:43 | 6869465 All Risk No Reward
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The Big Bad is...

THE

DEBT-MONEY

MONOPOLY

Anyone who diesn't properly identify The Big Bad is a Debt-Money Monopolist quisling punk or an incredibly useful idiot.

The Rothschilds are part of the Debt-Money Monopoly.

Various European Royal Houses are part of the Debt-Money Monopoly.

The Rockefellers are part of the Debt-Money Monopoly.

Nation states are tools fo them to exploit, control, and manipulate - and that includes both the US and Israel.

Those Debt-Money Monopolist financed governments don't represent their citizenry.

Don't over generalize The Big Bad - that's EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT SO THAT THEY CAN HIDE IN THE SHADOWS.

Identify the demons by their most appropriate characteristic.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:19 | 6869513 Billy the Poet
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It's the same delusion that causes people in the liberty movement to build their philosophy around the writings of a Zionist who proclaimed that industrialists are the answer to the world's problems.

Not only do you mischaracterize Rand's philosophy you give her far too much credit in regard to her influence. It's an interesting dynamic -- your entire existence is based on hating the woman (thus your handle) and therefore you must make her out to be the originator of the idea of self determination.

You really should get over both Rand and yourself. Individuals have always had the natural right to self determination.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:26 | 6869530 LetThemEatRand
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Says the guy who pops up inevitably to defend her.  The Poet doth protest too much.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:42 | 6869547 Billy the Poet
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Yes, I defended Ayn Rand by pointing out that she's not nearly as important as you make her out to be. You use her as a controversial figure through whom you can attack individual liberty.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 04:38 | 6869707 jeff montanye
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thanks billy for telling me who let them ... was talking about.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:36 | 6869609 conscious being
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This LTER post is the only mention of Zionists on the page. Brandon Smith wants to have a discussion about the NWO and leave out the word Zionist. Your case, [BS's case] against Putin is very weak. You put up 4 quotes to prove your collusion point. One from Kissenger, wow, shocking. Another from Barry. What a surprise and who cares? Then you have two BRICS statements, proving their collusion in something or other. The first one saying they support the UN. Again, so what? The world is about to change, but for the time being, the UN is the only forum to deconflict, as they say, global nuclear war. The statement does not prove anything about BRICS collusion with the existing global financial order. Next and last BRICS quote, that somehow proves something incrimminating about the BRICS says they want the IMF surveilance aka monitoring of the global economy, looking for bubbles to be more objective. While the IMF exists, I'd call that a worthwhile goal. Why does BS see it as suspicious?

Here's my standing challenge, that I have put up many times to Brandon and/or any accolytes. Please explain the logic behind why the Zionist finacial oligarchy, that has owned The West and most of the rest of the World for decades, let go of Russia when they had the country by the throat? There basicly was, a one world, Zionist order. What was the logic in tearing that down to relaunch the multipolar world, just to supposedly, start building a new, uni-polar version all over again? The only version that makes sense is that the Russian break out and reclaiming of there country was not part of any zionist globalist, financial program. The truth is the Zionists lost big in Russia and the Russian people have benefitted. Was it part of the Zionist plan to lose control of Russia and its vast resources and territory? It's just a laughable premis and surprising that so many ZHedgies fall for it without a rational argument. Does Putin join Henry at the satanic sacrifices? Not at all likely imo.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:44 | 6869647 runningman18
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Ignoring all the other quotes and links in the article does not help your argument, it makes it look as though you are trying to sidestep the evidence presented.  Also, why should Smith be required to disprove your premise that the globalists "let Russia go when they had the country by the throat", when you haven't produced any evidence that your premise is even true?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 04:07 | 6869667 Billy the Poet
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I'm always up for an interesting theory, conspiracy or otherwise, but one of the key points about politics in general and central planning specifically is that because the elites can never understand the web of motivations connecting millions or billions of individuals their plans always produce serious unintended consequence which impede their goals. It's simply not plausible or possible that any group could take such complete control of all politicians (each with his own delusions of grandeur) let alone all individuals.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 05:06 | 6869733 runningman18
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Unless you are privy to the inner working of the elitists, I'm not sure you are qualified to say with any certainty what is implausible.  Though, blackmailing or buying a handful of the world's top politicians does not sound all that difficult for people who control the world's money supply. 

Also, as Smith pointed out, the facts and evidence show that there is a plan and that plan is being implemented.  That doesn't mean the plan will work, but it does exist, and it is a threat.  

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 05:18 | 6869752 Billy the Poet
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Unless you are privy to the inner working of the elitists, I'm not sure you are qualified to say with any certainty what is implausible.

 

I know enough about the ability of a small group of people to effectively manage everything and everybody everywhere to know what is plausible.

 

Though, blackmailing or buying a handful of the world's top politicians does not sound all that difficult for people who control the world's money supply.

 

You've got that backwards. The bankers don't have anything but paper which only has value because government grants them that power by virtue of its guns and prisons.  There's quid pro quo but power comes out of the barrel of a gun not a printing press.

 

Also, as Smith pointed out, the facts and evidence show that there is a plan and that plan is being implemented.

 

I have no doubt that games are being played out behind the scenes but such games must remain opaque by definition. Anyone who claims to have seen the program is pulling your leg.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 07:16 | 6869800 conscious being
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Runningman - "why should Smith be required to disprove your premise that the globalists "let Russia go when they had the country by the throat" when you haven't produced any evidence that your premise is even true?" Because any pundit with half a brain knows it's true. And because I have put up said info maybe 1/2 a dozen times for the non-pundit likes of yourself. You obviously never took a look to see the state of affairs in Russia, under Yeltsin in the 90's. You have to make some effort, or you can stay ill-informed. I mean it's kind of amazing you are backing up Brandon here and you don't know what went on in Russia in the 90's.

Just look up Boris Berezovsky, the once richest man in Russia and boss of the Kremlin. Youtube has 1 or 2 good documentaries on him. As for why I didn't take the time to take apart the whole article, Give me a break.

Here, this is pretty good. The Rise of Putin and The Fall of The Russian-Jewish Oligarchs (1/2)

This is specific to Boris Life & Death of Boris Berezovsky (RT Documentary)

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 09:36 | 6870092 mvsjcl
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If anybody thinks that "governments" control the surveillance/spy apparatus, then they are seriously deluded. The surveillance/spy apparatus is what the real controllers use to keep the governments in line.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 04:49 | 6869713 jeff montanye
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dear running, that's not what conscious said. he said the globalists wouldn't have let go of russia when they had it by the throat (in the late '90's after russia defaulted and the ruble crashed under yeltsin).  that russia did get loose under putin is proof there is real opposition not a charade.  

the zionist bankers and their greedy i don't really give a damn about israel but i love money and power allies in the financial world are very powerful but they are not all powerful, imo.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 05:16 | 6869742 runningman18
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Uh, yes, I suppose that's what he said, though he presented it as a question (why would they let Russia go?).  His claim is that Russia "got loose" under Putin. I asked him to produce evidence that supports that claim.  Smith provided considerable evidence that Russia and Putin are not in opposition to the globalists.  No one has presented any counter-evidence to suggest otherwise. 

No one suggested that the elitists are all powerful, just that Putin works with them or for them.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 08:11 | 6869873 conscious being
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# "Smith provided considerable evidence that Russia and Putin..." Yeah, like what mr. Pony up some evidence. Why don't you pull out from Brandon's op, the crux of the argument? What "considerable evidence"? For example?? I said his openning quotes were very weak and prove nothing. I explained why. The openning quotes are laughable and don't address his assertion in any way. Yes Kissenger and Obummer like the NWO idea. The BRICS quotes have reasonible explanations that do not indicate collusion.

Let me ask you this Runningman. Do you see any value in the UN as a forum to deconflict say a nuclear confrontation?

If the answer is no, do you think someone who disagrees with you on this is crazy?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 08:14 | 6869907 conscious being
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Runningman, did you give me a downvote and run away?

Fri, 12/04/2015 - 01:44 | 6874388 Implied Violins
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No, that would be ME because you NEVER go back to comment on ANY comment of yours that I respond to, so why the fuck should anyone else do so considering YOU? Respond to this, and maybe we can have a dialogue. Until then, I will just ignore anything you have to say, because you certainly have done so regarding EVERY fucking response I have EVER provided for you...I swear, it is almost like you have an AGENDA, or something...

Fri, 12/04/2015 - 06:59 | 6874701 conscious being
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Huh?  this is the last response I can see from you.

#6821908 on 11-20

You acknowledge the power of what you call "banking families". Very good. OK we agree. But what is your point now? That Putin works for a banking family? If so, you are delusional. Putin kicked the banking family operatives out of Russia. Sorry, that's just the facts. I keep putting up links that clearly tell the story. You ought to take a look at them some time.

This one for instance.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:10 | 6869265 Leboob
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Maybe when they make Obama the UN Inspector General, we can officially declare him the Anti-Christ. 666. Or is it 0101010110101000100100101100001100110101010100111110010101100100101011111001010001010010100101010101010100100010101010101

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:13 | 6869266 Tree-hugging Ne...
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It is a path set by the elites, central bankers, and their slaves the Nomenklatura to destabilize the west, centralize all powers in hands of the bourgeoisie to drag out whatever they please. They already have the gulags, training centers, FEMA death camps. They just need a proper excuse to execute these plans, WAR. War with Russia, War with China, war with anyone who opposes the government narrative and who poses a threat, especially the American citizens. NWO, the elites are coming for you, your assets and possessions everything is red herring.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:44 | 6869356 Government need...
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Who needs war, when 'terrorism' will do equally well.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:14 | 6869273 GhostOfDiogenes
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Wow tyler got to hand it to you.
All those words....all that verbiage and put down of the "liberty movement" from your lofty standing....hell all the putin sacrilege....

And not one time did you mention the people who control the fed, BIS, and other new world order banks.

You never mention, the jew.

Sure you left out Hitler, as it is easy to do.

But to leave out the jew, and their 110 countries kicked out of in just 2000 years, well, that makes a liar out of you, and me too.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:20 | 6869292 Dr. Engali
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I didn't realize Brandon was Tyler. Here I thought Brandon was a contributor. Learn something new everyday.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:21 | 6869293 Slimjimmy
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Good grief. Another one who's spent too much time on the neo-nazi sites.

Yes, Jews run the world, which is why the Vatican is a city state under which no laws apply. The Vatican is of course, Jew run.

Lol!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:30 | 6869315 GhostOfDiogenes
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Why does the pope kiss rich jews hands?

Why does the pope wear a yarmulke?

Its funny. You can condecend and act like you are better than everyone....and yet you know nothing about what you speak.

Its obvious to anyone with half a brain that israel, the UN, BIS, Fed banks, and yes rome, is run by rich jews.

Prove me wrong.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:35 | 6869328 LetThemEatRand
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"Why does the pope kiss rich jews hands?"

Because the pope thinks Richard Jews is hot.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:50 | 6869327 Johnny Horscaulk
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Wait - your proof that jews can not run things is the vatican exists as a remnant of the Papal States?

Huh??

I guess you mean that since the RC church has some power (far less than the bad old days) so they cant run everything - but no one seriously thinks so.

But - jews have far more power in the us and canada and uk thsn catholics - and there are way way more catholics.

Its a perception issue based on obvious disproportionality which Jewish groups demand we not discuss - but of course we have every right to ask how why and to what effect such disproportionate powrr by a highly wthnocentric minority has as to our own rights.

I dont hate anyone on this earth. But i do hate bullshit double standards and hypocrisy.

Jmo

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:01 | 6869395 LetThemEatRand
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So what are your thoughts on affirmative action?  Should we insist that non-Jews be given more jobs in Hollywood, banking, government, etc?

It's okay to angry, but be angry at Zionist NWO types, which include both Jews and non-Jews.  

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:40 | 6869460 Johnny Horscaulk
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I dont believe in quotas or any kind of government coercion.

My angle is free speech - to be able to speak about power.

One can speak about 'the' arabs or catholics or germans quite freely but even discussing Israeli violence or the racism of prominent rabbis results in 3 people rushing to cry antisemite.

I think 'zionist' is woefully misused. So is 'neocon' which had a specific and discrete meaning and semantic drifted to be conflated with militarism generally.

Israel gets away with murder because speech regarding Jews is chilled by an absurdly low threshold for decrying it as 'hate' such that all criticism is deemed invalid *ab initio*.

As i see how muslims and arabs are discussed (and im not arab or a theist fwiw) here there and everywhere, And here - often by "zionists" who will scream 'antisemite' ** in response to a completely honest and fair comment**... I kinda decided, you know, I gotta be honest - I don't really give a fuck if anyone thinks talking about Israel or judaism is 'jew hate'.

Its simply logical nonsense, designed to immunize israeli state terror from any criticism which would be lavished on a non jewish government.. Wtc

Consider the recent french high court case criminalizing boycotting israel to protest their brutal occupation and weekly atrocities - the idea that boycotting a state for reasons comporting with basic decency is entirely because, in france as well, jews are a tiny, but super powerful minority. Crif is aipac. Charlie hebdo led to passionate discussions of free speech - but that was mockng muslims. Mock jews and you go to jail.

In short - fuck that.

Im too smart to hate a 'group'. Racism is intellectual fraud - but so is crying racism at facts that challenge your narrative of your own Unique Sacred Innocence.

http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/09/does-jewishwhite-privilege-exist/
http://dissidentvoice.org/2015/09/the-doctrine-of-superior-people/

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:02 | 6869491 LetThemEatRand
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I agree the free speech problem exists, even here on ZH.  Several very good posters here were banned for making anti-Jewish remarks, and I remember one guy (Fonzanoon) who was banned for posting allegedly racist remarks against blacks, while other posters here use the "n" word with abandon.  

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:49 | 6869577 Billy the Poet
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I liked fonzanoon and never really knew what happened to him.

But as for "free speech," I would like to come to your place of business and discuss allegedly racist remarks with your staff and customers. What's your address?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:55 | 6869585 LetThemEatRand
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Fonz is a good guy.  You would not know.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:02 | 6869595 Billy the Poet
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I would like to exercise "free speech" in your place of business. What's your address? Surely you wouldn't criticize Tyler for denying free speech and then deny it to others yourself?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:08 | 6869599 LetThemEatRand
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So your idea of free speech is that the guy with the internet keys should hand it over to you?  As I always suspected about you.  Same reason you like Rand, I suppose.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:32 | 6869618 Billy the Poet
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We're talking about your assertion that Tyler denies individuals "free speech," and whether you are willing to allow that kind of speech at your own place of business. But you refuse to live up to the standards you set for others. As usual you seek to deny other individuals their property rights and right to self determination while jealously guarding your own self interests.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:36 | 6869635 LetThemEatRand
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You do realize this is an internet blog, don't you?  Kind of different from the typical business, but okay.  Your comment is consistent with you lack of understanding of business (even though you worship Rand).

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:46 | 6869640 Billy the Poet
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How convenient for you that you get to determine the nature and character of the way Tyler's business must operate and you get to determine the nature and character of the way your business operates.

All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:47 | 6869651 conscious being
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Fonzanoon famously announced he was quitting a long time ago, because ZH wasn't enough like that Cheers bar. Somebody called him out on something. He didn't like it. Announced he was quitting and disappeared.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:49 | 6869655 Billy the Poet
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Norm!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 04:56 | 6869720 LetThemEatRand
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He was banned.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 07:23 | 6869845 conscious being
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Maybe in your alternative universe. He never wrote anything controversial. How would he get banned?

Are you confusing Ste. Francis with Fanzoon?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 07:31 | 6869858 nmewn
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As I recall Fonzi wasn't banned, he quit. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 08:00 | 6869890 conscious being
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Holly mole! Cover fire from nmewn. Peace on Earth is possible after all. And you are right. Somebody didn't talk nice to him. He made a farewell speech.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:04 | 6869494 MakeMineADouble
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Worthy of an up vote

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 09:59 | 6870159 HowdyDoody
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This was summarised as "previously, an anti-semite was someone who hates Jews, now an anti-semite is someone Jews hate"

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:54 | 6871164 USSLiberty
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I agree. "Anti-Semite" is what Jews use to shut down any sort of discussion involving any sort of Jew. Personally, when I think of my definition of Semite, I think, ok, somebody who looks like an Arab or even many Spainards. Dark, curly hair, a big honking nose, lots of body hair... but, these are simply physical attributes. I'm not anti anything concerning physical attributes! That doesn't threaten or affect me! To each his own. So, anti-Semitic is really just meaningless, empty, it says nothing. Funny, most of the people spewing the anti-Semite word do not at all appear like a Semitic person. Most look very much like your average European. It's very strange. They must have gone through years and years of constant brainwashing hold such tunnelvision, paranoia, and lack of self awareness.

There should be a new word, and I kind of like anti-Zionist. I'm not anti-Semitic; I'm anti-Zionist! So, it says more about some Jews' actions or belief systems which threaten my belief system or actions.

To each his own, and may independence and distinction between nations of peoples be the ultimate world of diversity we strive for.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 05:21 | 6869755 Frederico
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And just like this, we have another thread hijacked at ZH, where all further discussion is dumbed down, so we can keep mentioning the jews.

Look I'm well aware of jewish influence in banking, hollywood and governments worldwide, but threads seem to get hijacked all the time these days, and to mention things we already know. 

So I decided to check your comment history, and realize there's nothing else you can talk about. And while you're intention might be good, for me your a fool.

For not being able to see the big picture, you can only concentrate on your hatred for a people (hey I perfectly understand hatred for jews, and I'm well studied in their history and their deception), which is distracting you from analizing clearly certian issues. 

Anyway in your 5 weeks at ZH you managed to bombard us with information we've all known for a long time.

Yawn I'm bored. Anything else?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:26 | 6869300 nosam
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Its the freemasons and Illuminati and not the Jew. The Jews may be extremely well represented in the Illuminati but blaming Jews can be misleading...this way you miss out other minions of Satan like the catholic clergy and others who have been inducted into the tribe.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:38 | 6869342 GhostOfDiogenes
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Right.

Its never the jews fault.

Its the nazi's and the 6 billion jews they killed.

Right.

Jews never do wrong.

And no jews control the BIS, Fed banks, finance, media, heck, its those damn gray alians!

Its never the jews till they get found out and kicked out.

They its another holohoax.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:24 | 6869428 ThirdWorldDude
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Learn to make a difference between Jews and Zionists...

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:12 | 6869603 Billy the Poet
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..in the words of Jews themselves:

 

http://www.truetorahjews.org/

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:59 | 6869666 Raymond_K._Hessel
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The venn diagram sure has a lot of overlap, and the chosen people mythos and racial election theory of the Torah the core jewish religious text (with the talmud for some) in fact us the origin of zionism.

And not all 'zionists' are monsters either. Most are not. a Beinart or roger cohen may have some odd ideas but they atent racist psychos like bibi and adelson.

The term regards Jewish secular nationalism but it is used to mean all sorts of things. Jewish power in the media say is not a question of zionism at all but about Jewish ethnic power. What has happened is rather than sticking to 'jew' which years of conditioning sets of alarm bells, 'zionist' is used to mean a jew, based on ancestry and not 'faith'

So not hating an entire group or a person just based on religious or ethnic group is both smart and ethical. But talking about a privileged minority fairly and honestly is not at all the "hate speech" some claim.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 06:13 | 6869802 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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I wonder what Paul Ehrlich would have said about six billion Jews.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:43 | 6869352 Johnny Horscaulk
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Its ot the bloody freemasons. Its basically a drinking club for guys eho hate their wives.

What the fuck is the illuminati other than a word used to get you chasing ghosts

The catholic clergy are all minions of satan? Who told you that nonsense? hal Lindsey ? Hagee? One of the Jews for Jesus Jews who praise yshua but worship 'the jew' instead of CHRIST?

Here's the thing - you ought to consider not only the popular internet memes, you ought to consider who just obviousky controls money - the root of all evil..

Its not jesuits or space lizards, Frodo

http://tomatobubble.com/id345.html

And you ought to consider not just the ####s

But the wild... Wild disproportionate presence if that tribe.

Honestly - is massive overrepresentation not a tiny clue?

You ever go to a traditional Catholic mass, the latin, pre vatican 2 one?

You ought to consider at all times that you dont know what it is until you look for yourself.

But maybe try the lutherans first. Its like no frills catholicism, which is very close to anglicans and the eastern orthodox.

Its american southern protestants who are batshit heretics.

And led astray by the sane tribe via Ia Scoffield deceipt

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:58 | 6869390 nosam
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The Jews maybe more prone to Satan worship because of their Kabbalah etc. But this does not mean that non Jews are immune does it? Are you saying only Jews are capable of using their power for evil?

Sure the Satanists have infiltrated all Christian sects but Catholicism was totally messed up from the beginning.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:19 | 6869421 Johnny Horscaulk
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No I am saying look at who holds power and when you do the idea the RCC has more power than jews becomes very hard to believe

I think all the Abrahamic nonsense is silly.

from my view the 'satan' is yahweh, the demiurge. the Christ is a Platonic Form ideal of sorts.

The son, Christ, must overcome the cruel old father sky king before there is a new day.

Protestants in the us are least receptive to non dogmatic gnostic or hermetic or eclectic thinking.

In magickal terms Kabbalah is old, but ours is much older.

And Waking.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:16 | 6869416 Implied Violins
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I personally find it...interesting...that Brandon's article is being hijacked with all this jewish talk, with little to no actual discussion of the points he was trying to make re: Putin, China and their role in being part of the NWO. Is there an agenda here?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:13 | 6869601 The Pope
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 "Is there an agenda here?"

 

To answer your question directly. No, not in my opinion. To use an old Sean Connery line from the movie 'Rising Sun' "You have to beat the bushes to startle the snakes".

As such, I would frankly consider you to be more a 'hijacker' as it was you who felt compelled to chime in and cleverly attach 'agenda' to the issue.

 

Broader

 

"little to no actual discussion of the points he was trying to make re: Putin, China and their role in being part of the NWO. Is there an agenda here?"

So I suppose, in your mind discussion should be limited to Putin & China (whilst ignoring everything else). That would be a bit like trying to frame an argument around a FLAT EARTH theory.

 

 

 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:54 | 6869659 conscious being
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# "So I suppose, in your mind discussion should be limited to Putin & China (whilst ignoring everything else)." Now you are on to something. Now we're going places in that Pope-mobile.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 07:33 | 6869852 The Pope
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OK then.

 

So on that note, please, by all means, when CHS or anyone posts an article talking about, let's say, Greenspan, Bernanke, & Yellen, let's all just limit the entire discussion to their unbiased academic wonkishness and omit any other theoretical entries into the discussion because they would only be diversions which were clearly proffered by someone with an 'agenda'.

 

Meanwhile, I'll continue to bang my head against the chalkboard knowing that there exists only one group (that I know of), that goes out of it's way to squash criticism directed its way, but I need to remind myself over and over that there's NO AGENDA there.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 08:22 | 6869918 conscious being
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None at all. None. None what so ever.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 08:52 | 6869971 The Pope
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< -- Hijack ON

< -- Hi, JACKOFF

 

Let's settle this once & for all

 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 07:44 | 6869872 nmewn
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"I personally find it...interesting...that Brandon's article is being hijacked with all this jewish talk, with little to no actual discussion of the points he was trying to make..."

YOU NOTICED THAT?!

Why, if I didn't know any better, I might suspect NWO agi-props descending down upon every comment thread like locusts to disrupt any discussion of THE alliance between central banks (generally, to include China, Russia etal) and the dream of leftwing statists EVERYWHERE for a cashless, UN dominated, broke-dick sovereign man being forced to put solar panels on his roof to save the fucking planet ;-)

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 08:57 | 6869981 The Pope
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Well I just came over here from the Zuckerberg thread. Clearly, that was hijacked as well because countless ZH posters failed to factor in that any 'evil intentions' he may have undoubtedly come from his Chinese wife. /s

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:43 | 6869646 bunnyswanson
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"About those rings:  ... official ring of the Scottish Rite Mason. It is a plain band of gold, about 5/16th of an inch wide.

On it is an equilateral triangle, enclosing the letter yud, the initial of the Name of Deity in Hebrew.

It's circular shape symbolizes unending commitment and loyalty just as it does in a marriage. The triangular plate and the letter signify that that commitment is to the Deity.

Traditionally, the inside of the ring bears the inscription Virtus junxit mores non separabit, "Whom virtue unites, death will not separate."

http://www.masonicinfo.com/33rdsrule.htm

http://www.knightstemplar.org/KnightTemplar/articles/20130723.htm

An Alternative Explanation of the Royal and Select Master Degrees

by Sir Knight Gene Fricks

"With the conquest of Jerusalem by the Arabs about 645 A.D., a renewed effort to restore the temple mount was undertaken. The temple mount is as sacred to Moslems as it is to Jews, for they share the same ancestor, Abraham. Moslems however, claim that it was on the mount that the angel of the Lord stayed Abraham's hand from sacrificing his son Ishmael (not Isaac).

Ishmael is the hereditary ancestor of the Arab peoples. It was on the mount that Mohammed was said to have ascended to Heaven. With the focus of sanctity again on the temple mount, the Arabs undertook to construct the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Asqa Mosque.

Beneath the temple mount platform is substantial construction begun during the Maccabean period and extended during Herod's construction. An aqueduct supported on arches and bridges brought water into the structure, and numerous bridges and passageways lie beneath the platform.

These, the Arabs sought to reconstruct. One of the most impressive rooms beneath the platform is what Charles Warren named "Masonic Hall" during his exploration and excavations in 1868. General Sir Charles Warren, in addition to his many military and professional accomplishments, was an ardent Freemason and a Select Master. It was due to his efforts in the last century that structures that had lain in darkness for centuries were brought again to the light."

by Sir Knight Gene Fricks

Robes, swords, Renaissance accent.  Opening rituals.  (Like an off Broadway show, folks!)

"The first three represent the Grand Masters Solomon, King of Israel; Hiram, King of Tyre and Hiram Abiff."


 

Ceremony of Reception


The Conductor of the Council, in the ante room, informs the candidate that in this degree he represents Zabud (pronounced Zaybud), a particular friend of King Solomon; that he is to enter and, if challenged, to answer: "a zealous Brother desirous of participating in your labours".
Can. enters Council; C. of G. advances with drawn sword, which he points at breast of candidate: Who comes here?


Can., replying as instructed: A zealous Brother, desirous of participating in your labours.

 

T.I.M.: Companion Captain of the Guard, bring in the prisoner.
C. of G. leaves the Council and returns with the Can. Door remains open.


C. of G.: An intruder has penetrated the Secret Vault.


T.I.M.: Put him to death immediately.

T.I.M.: Unfortunate Zabud, your curiosity and disobedience have cost you your life. I have consulted with my Companions and find them inflexible, and such is the nature of my obligation that I am unable to pardon you without their consent. You must, therefore, prepare for death."


"We need to extract the gas from the sea" to stimulate the economy, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said."

 

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Energy-Industry/2015/08/31/Gas-sales-gi...

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/48007/israeli-lawmakers-scramble-supe... = LARGE$T gas field in the world.

Delek Group - We Delete Your Gas and Keep it For Ourselves!


Read the truth here.  Hiding behind another person is the Jewish Mode of Operation.  Cashing in on another's misfortune after creating it is their businss plan.

https://archive.org/stream/cu31924030283216#page/n9/mode/2up

The Jews and Masonry in USA before 1910

"Masonry is a Jewish Institution ..but for a few degrees and other obligatory words"


 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:15 | 6869275 Atomizer
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Old tricks to destabilize. Some toys never work once taken out of the chest repeated times. 

World-Systems Theory - YouTube

 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:16 | 6869278 Slimjimmy
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But, but, Russia is the good guy and Putin is gonna save us all!

ROFL!!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:39 | 6869458 uhland62
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Wrong thinking ---- go back. 

Neither Christ (if he ever existed) or Putin (who exists for a phase) can save us. When you need a helping hand, stretch out your right arm and see what you find at the end of it. Use left arm if left handed or no right arm available. 

They may well recreate Dickensian circumstances in their shortsighted power games, but breeding only people who take it lieing down and ask for more will not be successfull. 

Meanwhile Rupert Murdoch is advocating return to exceptionalism. The debt will never be repaid, not in the US, Argentina, Greece, Ukraine, EU and probably China. The bonds and certificates will make good wall paper unless there is a toilet paper shortage. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:01 | 6869281 Demdere
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https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/12/03/about-the-massive-psyops/

The question is "How many players on the world stage have how much of what kind of power?"

A properly done study would specify : Out of the events of the world, extract trends that produce measures one can run through a factor analysis or principle component analysis to decide those measures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factor_analysis

I would like to believe that process was as reliable at extracting the number/type/strength players as Axial Tomography is at extracting images from seemingly-similar multi-dimensional data.

But, I can't think of a case where that convinced anyone.  Intelligence, personality, learning styles, it has been tried everywhere. I just read back through its description of successes, and nothing has changed since last time I looked.

Then we have to deal with the problem of interpreting historical data extracted to feed into that analysis. David Hackett Fischer "Historian's Fallacies", it isn't easy and while I love Tyler's journalism, this is constructing narrative.  It is what we bloggers do, and it is easy to do and hard to know whether there is meaning when done.

I will believe the results of global warming models first.

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/09/28/to-the-modelers-of-the-world/

And on the other hand, you know there are forces that need chaos and others that profit from chaos when they can know it is coming and how. I don't there are a few hidden links controlling events, I think there are very many controlling very many events each with many interests that would like to control them.  Interests compete, they cooperate, they lie and steal from each other and everyone else. They cooperate in fuzzing reality and hiding their actions.

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/pan-galactic-buggery-game/

Every thing happening is caused by many things and causes many things and so is an example of many things.  Every political event, every law. But nobody has special powers, the only thing the rich have different than the rest of us is the ability to amplify their wishes and effectively farm politial systems.

And that is the advantage we mere citizens have in this contest, we can't indulge our whims, we have to pay attention to reality.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:20 | 6869288 nosam
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Whatever replaces the current world order will be more evil..and so on..

Only Christs return can save us.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:27 | 6869303 FreeShitter
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SDR will most likely replace the current fiat ponzi, and agreed with Christ. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:20 | 6869523 Otrader
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I wonder how Christ will feel about the SDR upon his return?  He did stand up to the early players and ...

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:31 | 6869445 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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Your Christ won't be saving me, despite the fact that I am a moral person. That makes him evil in my eyes.

Besides, he lied: the meek are FUBAR!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:14 | 6869508 nosam
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"Your Christ won't be saving me, despite the fact that I am a moral person"

I believe that you should leave judgement to Christ.

"the meek are FUBAR!"

Too early to say

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 05:05 | 6869732 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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"I believe that you should leave judgement to Christ."

Oh, really? Explain the down-votes then. Besides, my morality isn't a question of opinion.

 

"Too early to say"  ???

When haven't they been? The meek have always been FUBAR, and mostly because of their Christ.

 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 05:20 | 6869754 nosam
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"meek have always been FUBAR"

The meek shall INHERIT the earth at the end of this Satanic age. Until then the are FUBAR.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 05:51 | 6869770 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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"The meek shall INHERIT the earth..."

What's left of it. A desolate, barren, radioactive, cloud-covered world where nothing grows and nothing can survive. Yay! Go team MEEK!

 

 

And you didn't explain the down-votes... Pretty judgemental, if you ask me.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:24 | 6869295 LetThemEatRand
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If I thought that Legarde's skin would make for a durable and tasteful chair covering, would that make me a Nazi or just a keen observer of quality leather goods?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:27 | 6869305 Implied Violins
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I was thinking alligator skin boots, personally...but either of our thoughts would be considered - humanitarian, I believe.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:28 | 6869309 nosam
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That depends on whether she is human or reptile.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:27 | 6869436 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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...or Reptilian.

Mwa-hahahahaaaaaa

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:48 | 6869470 palmereldritch
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#savetheoompaloompas

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:25 | 6869296 lasvegaspersona
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There are other interpretations for the data you see. The USA does not need to be diminished by externa lforces. It's behavior as printer of the reserve  currency has insured an eventual drop in standard of living as the debt it grew in that period comes due.

Furthermore the ECB and BIS could just be preparing for that day when the dollar finally collapses. No malice need be imputed, just survivor instinct.

Finally, the currency they have developed has the potential to be a very good thing rather than a tool for world domination. Those worried about a NWO have yet to show that they understand that only a currency that marks balance sheet gold to market can allow gold to find its true value. The gold standard froze gold at a price set by governments. They were then free to print more currency as gold was kept at that fixed price. Gold lost its ability to function as a wealth asset that could protect against the over printing of currency.

Charles Partee tried to explain this concept the Ron Paul. Ron did not seem to see the truth in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcm8VvBcUdE

The future will show which side was right but I think Partee's concept of gold as an 'indicia' is important. It goes way beyond just showing what folks think of the currency. It protects the holder of gold like nothing else could.

Fofoa has been exploring this idea for 7+ years.

Time will tell but to miss this concept will be to miss the rationale for a  change in gold's function and possibly miss the benefits of holding gold.

So far not one other gold writer has explored this structure of the Euro...not one. This will prove to be a crucial error in understanding what is about to unfold. The world is full of crooks but it is a mistake to brand the ECB as being against liberty. I think the Euro could hold the ket to gold and liberty.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:48 | 6869370 r00t61
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I dunno, any institution that employs Mario Draghi seems pretty anti-liberty to me.  And before him, Jean-Claude Juncker.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:19 | 6869521 runningman18
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You're forgetting that the data supports the fact of agenda and participation in causing the crisis, not just that the banks are preparing for a dollar crash.  The BIS controls Fed policy, as noted by Quigley and Harpers, and it is Fed policy that is destroying the dollar.  The BIS is partly if not entirely responsible.  The Economist admits way back in 1988 the agenda for a global currency by 2018, which is only a couple of years away and most of what they described is now happening.  The banksters can't claim innocent preparation if they were the cause of the crisis.   

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