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14 Dead, 17 Wounded In Mass Shooting; Suspects Reportedly US Citizens (2 Dead, 3rd Detained)

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Local TV Live Feed...

Update 13: Several ISIS Twitter accounts are already taking credit for this terrible act... no confirmations.

Update 12: Explosions have been heard during a raid of the Redlands residence of Syed Farook.

Update 11: A US citizen named Syed Farook is reported by NBC News to be involved in the shooting (along with his brother).

Update 10: AP reports, a law enforcement official says a workplace dispute probed as possibility in California shooting. Officials say gunmen were probably American citizens "not terrorists."

NY Daily News has a few thoughts...

Update 9: Police confirm an explosive device was found inside the building where the shooting took place. 2 suspects dead (1 male, 1 female), 3rd person detained after running from SUV shootout scene (unclear if involved in shooting). 1 officer wounded.

 

Update 8: Authorities are serving search warrants at a building in Redlands, where on of the suspects may be originally from.

Update 7: The San Bernardino Police chief Burguan tweets that "suspects are down" and one officer is wounded. Unclear if any are still on the loose.

And here is an audio recording of the gun battle which took place earlier:

 

Update 6: Still more conflicting information, this time from the chief of police according to whom while 2 suspects are being "dealt with" (which supposedly means one killed and one down), while one is still possibly at large. The police is currently searching for the third suspect.

Update 5: the latest from NBC confirms that while one suspect in custody, the number of suspects shot has grown to two which may account for all three of the original suspects reported at the original crime scene.

There is a conflicting report according to which one suspect is still at large and has barricaded in a nearby home.

According to a third report, a pipe bomb was recovered from the suspect SUV.

 

Update 4: According to CBS, one of the suspects is now down and another one is in custody, while a SWAT team prepares to search the suspect's bullet-ridden SUV

 

Here's Obama:

Update 3: High speed chase underway on freeway and reports of arrests made. This has culminated with a shoot out with the police, in which a black SUV probably belonging to the suspect has been perforated by gunfire with helicopter cameras showing that at least on suspect has been shot while an officer is also down after the suspect ran away.

 

Heavily shot-up SUV...

 

Someone is down:

Police  described the case as "a domestic terrorist type situation" at the moment, and a Bomb Threat Reported at Loma Linda University Medical Center in San Bernadino.

Update 2: Police confirm:

  • *POLICE SAY UP TO THREE PEOPLE OPEN FIRE IN CALIF.
  • *POLICE SAY UP TO 14 PEOPLE MAY BE DEAD IN CALIF.
  • *POLICE SAY UP TO 14 PEOPLE MAY BE WOUNDED

Update 1: The three suspects are believed to be armed with AK-47-type weapons, a local law enforcement official told CNN

Police storming Inland Center earlier...

 

 

As we previously noted,

Police are investigating a report of shots fired in San Bernardino. As CBS LA reports, San Bernardino Fire officials are reporting at least 20 victims and 12 reported casualties in a shooting in the 1300 block of South Waterman. Authorities are advising all motorists to stay away from the area around the Inland Regional Center, a center serving people with developmental disabilities in San Bernardino and Riverside counties.

The Inland Regional Center is a sprawling three-story center serving people with developmental disabilities in San Bernardino and Riverside counties. The non-profit private agency, whose site crashed due to traffic due to news of the shooting, employs nearly 700 people and serves more than 30,000 residents with developmental disabilities for ages ranging from infants to seniors 60 years and older, according to the center’s Facebook page.

Investigators were searching the building and have yet to clear it. Police said there were reports of one to three shooters involved.

Marcos Aguilera's wife was in the building when the gunfire erupted. He said a shooter entered the building next to his wife's office and opened fire.

"They locked themselves in her office. They seen bodies on the floor," Aguilera said, adding that his wife saw ambulances taking people out of the building on stretchers.

According to the latest update, police confirm three shooters at large wearing masks, body armor and armed with rifles.

The ATF and the FBI have arrived on the scene of the shooting.

San Bernardino is deploying heavily armed cops to universities, hospitals, and Planned Parenthood.

According to the latest news, the Waterman discount mall in San Bernardino, CA has been evacuated.

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Police looking for 3 white males dressed in military gear. At least 20 injured (and latest reports say 12 dead).

 

The scene of the crime

 

Police presence is building...

Putting today's shooting in context, there have been 334 days and 351 mass shootings so far this year, not including this one.

 

And here is Hillary

 

 

 

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Wed, 12/02/2015 - 15:30 | 6866848 Sonic the porcupine
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That gun control over there is working!

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 15:33 | 6866875 kliguy38
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Here it comes......its on like donkey kong

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 15:37 | 6866898 Boris Alatovkrap
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Good thing it is for Amerikansky not allow 2nd Amendment Right on college campus, imagine how quickly put down shooter.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 15:38 | 6866905 The Juggernaut
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A carry town is a polite town.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 15:41 | 6866925 MeetTozter
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Squirrel!  Obviously, this will dominate the US Newz, not the booooring Russian LIES about Turkey!

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 15:42 | 6866938 coinhead
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Probably just another one of them false fag type deals in teh news...

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 15:49 | 6866977 The Juggernaut
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If they come to take away your form of defense... defense yourself.  Should they come for your guns, provide the bullets first.  Molon Labe!

 

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 15:49 | 6866984 greenskeeper carl
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Not another gun free zone. Total mind blower. Here comes the calls for more gun control....

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 15:51 | 6867004 svayambhu108
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They overdone 911 now to have impact on population the deep clique would need to use nukes. And everybody knows who has the nukes. 

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 15:52 | 6867010 Supernova Born
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Watch your 6.

If there are 3 shooters, this is likely not going to be the only shooting today.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 15:56 | 6867028 knukles
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Notice that it occured "around the Inland Regional Center, a center serving people with developmental disabilities in San Bernardino and Riverside counties".

                                                                          SSRI's anybody!

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 15:58 | 6867036 Anonymous User
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Who knows what they might find in there.

Those people with disabilities use all sorts of strange tools.


http://goo.gl/ohIYT9

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 15:59 | 6867058 detached.amusement
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^this is just a pathetic porn addicted piece of shit

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:08 | 6867120 sunaJ
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Kudos, ZH, for having a post to this incident at least 20 min before anywhere else. I guess Tyler being a twitter nerd has its advantages.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:10 | 6867147 Supernova Born
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Teva Pharma (Israeli owned) in the building?

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:10 | 6867161 El Vaquero
Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:14 | 6867185 New England Patriot
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Was there an active shooter drill on today in San Bernardino?

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:17 | 6867217 Never One Roach
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Under the desk with your scissors....QUICK!

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:20 | 6867239 0b1knob
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< Workplace violence.

< Terrorists.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:36 | 6867331 MANvsMACHINE
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Scissors in place

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:39 | 6867357 Bunghole
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Oh good.

Cankles just chimed in.

Might as well politicize something before the bodies are even cold.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:44 | 6867379 coinhead
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Could someone tell these crisis actors that they were supposed to PUMP teh S&P, not CRASH teh S&P... but PUMP!

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:53 | 6867433 Never One Roach
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I sure hope they had a license for those guns or they're in big trouble! My first move would be to fire the police chief then protest.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 17:15 | 6867585 Bunghole
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Why do the shooters hate fat women in yoga pants?

#fatchicksmatter

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 17:35 | 6867724 Miles Ahead
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Where is you people's sense of compassion?  Pray for San Bernadino.  I'm going on Facebook right now and put the flag of San Bernadino over my face with opacity 50% and fill 50%, desaturating my original image for dramatic effect.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:25 | 6868296 Government need...
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Which mercs did the CIA use for this false flag, and what's the agenda . . . gun-grab, justification for carbon tax, a new round of tyranny?

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:38 | 6868338 Four chan
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live feed 

 

http://www.vgtv.no/#!/video/121755/direkte-siste-nytt-fra-politiet-i-california-om-skytedramaet

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 20:02 | 6868446 two hoots
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Evesdropping on everyone might be a little challenging.  Maybe tune that back to something more effective/manageable?

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 21:53 | 6868844 Joe Davola
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Bluffdale upgrading to Windows 10 as we speak.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:48 | 6869008 Save_America1st
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yawn...no disrespect for the dead.  Tragic and RIP. 

But as always, this will be politicized by O-fuck-tard and the treasonous puppet media.  They will blame the guns and not the killers.  At the same time, these socipathic hypocrits won't address the violence they allow to occur by opening our borders to illegal enemy invaders or by allowing cities like Chicago, Baltimore, even the fucking cess pool of the Disctrict of Criminals to be the rotating murder capitals of America.

Case in point...just read the statistics.  And you don't hear O-shit-head talking about the murder count in Chicago ever, do you????

http://heyjackass.com/

Or how about the total psycho murder count against civilians in the 20th century caused by government otherwise known as "Democide"?

https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

That would come to 262 MILLION people murdered by government. 

And these psycho fuckers want to disarm the rest of us????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

7 Billion people on this planet and growing...no thanks to the murderous scumbags of the elitist new world order devil cult worshippers in charge.  Some people are going to kill other people either on purpose or by accident, etc. etc. etc.

That's just how it fucking goes folks.  Lightning kills people too.

But if We The People allow ourselves to fall to whatever tyrannical mafia new world order of some kind who eventually figures out a way to completely disarm all American citizens....well fuck it.  Game fucking over.  The great genocide of millions in the 21st Century will begin en force.  It will go down in history by never being documented in history by these homicidal maniacs...because they will control everything and they will kill so many generations that whoever eventually is born on this planet will never have a fucking clue what really happened prior to their birth.

When the mugwumps kill Americans on military bases or at military recruiting centers do you ever hear the Criminal in Chief or the scumbag media call them out as extremists or terrorists?  NOPE.

But if they can hang those labels on some stupid-ass white guy somehow well they pull out all the fucking stops, don't they????   And then it's a week or a month of an all-out media and government assault against the 2nd Amendment and all the rest of us who believe in it and hold it to be true and who legally and own guns because it's our right to do so. 

 

 

 

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 23:01 | 6869087 Save_America1st
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well and there ya go...as I was writing above more updates come out and it's some fucking mugwump.  Either way...whether it be some fucking mugwump or some SRI drugged black, white, yellow, red or otherwise people doing the killings, the fucking Marxist government will use everything they can to their advantage to come out and excoriate guns and American legal guns owners.

Just you wait and see.  O-piece-of-shit will already have a speech prepared and so will the Hildabeast trying to jump on some non-existent bandwagon against our right to own guns as American citizens.

Prediction:   Guns and ammo sales are going to fucking SKYROCKET in the days to come...smashing all previous sales records.  Holiday bargain discounts are going to disappear as retailers will most likely raise prices back up as inventory disappears and demand goes to the fucking moon!!!

Mark my fucking words.

Better get to stacking iron, copper and lead as well as phyzz silver now bitchez!!!

MOLON LABE!!!!!!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:52 | 6869380 Anonymous User
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Now dance patsies, 

DANCE !!!

http://goo.gl/BZIOCS

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:31 | 6869446 Manthong
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Well, the authorities are still diligently deliberating about whether this a terror incident.. I understand their confusion because the HMFIC in charge says there is no credible threat to the homeland and the nasty MF’s in black are contained. When three or more individuals conspire and then conduct a mass slaughter, to call it terror might be just conspiracy theory.  

Hmm.. it’s a good thing that none of the victims were carrying and could shoot back..

Is there a climate summit planned in the area anytime soon?

And…. was a driver’s license conveniently dropped around anywhere?

And..and  and.. WTF did the is the N-in-Chief say he was going to concentrate on in his last year of American societal destruction????

..at least we can be confident that the toxicology reports will be released soon so that we know how many doses of meth the perps were purposefully put on.

..like we know about the meds the little prick at Sandy Hook was on.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:34 | 6869450 Motasaurus
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I don't believe that there is such a thing as a conveniently timed mass shooting.

But if I was the head of NATO and I didn't want the press to pay any attention to the Russian presentation of evidence that Turkey, and in particular the Erdogen family, has been profiting from buying stolen oil sold by ISIS, I'd be very thankful that there happened to be a mass shooting to distract the entire western world.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 01:50 | 6869473 Manthong
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I think you are the right track..

..and all of those other (driveby) mass shootings.. I don’t suppose they have anything to do with the neighborhoods Obama and his preacher, Jeremiah have helped to shape.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:37 | 6869638 Manthong
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“President Barack Obama called for stricter firearms laws as after a mass shooting in California that left at least 14 people dead, calling the spate of gun violence in the U.S. "unparalleled" to other countries.”

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/obama-calls-gun-law-changes-after-latest-mass-shooting-california-n473106

 

Oh yeah..  way worse here than Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Nigeria, Mali and other countries you have F’d.

You MF’n propagandist Commie S.O.B...

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 04:50 | 6869715 pretty bird
Thu, 12/03/2015 - 10:00 | 6870162 Joe Davola
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Under sharia, do we have to stone the surviving perp if they didn't shout "alluha ahkbar" before shooting?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 10:07 | 6870184 Manthong
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maybe just burn'm in a cage....

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 20:03 | 6868449 ajax
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Enough of the "false flag" crap already. Merkins are shooting each other in droves for the slightest perceived slight.

Grow the fuck up.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:38 | 6868987 tmosley
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Good goy. Believe what the media tells you. Don't understand statistics.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:39 | 6868990 OilCaptain
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Farooq, just another homegrown religion of peace victim of misunderstanding.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 23:07 | 6869104 Son of Loki
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"White" Muslims. The MSM gotsa put "white" in their somewhere as the wrongdoer.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 23:14 | 6869128 NidStyles
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Naw, this will be counted in the white crime statistics in the FBI records anyways. They like to rewrite history, not falsify reality. One is inherently easier to lie about. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 09:32 | 6870085 Agstacker
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http://thefreethoughtproject.com/breaking-swat-team-drill-turns-real-mas...

 

A SWAT drill was taking place right when it happened?  Maybe you need to grow a brain.

 

They will most likely find a passport dropped on one of the crisis actors.  

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 10:18 | 6870217 J Jason Djfmam
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A new round of Tranny.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:39 | 6868992 AsinineBovineFeces
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I kept watching the news thinking Caitlyn Jenner, the most heroic person in California, was going to be carrying out the victims and treating their wounds.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:48 | 6869032 Government need...
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Caitlyn's in the process of giving up his gun, too!  

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:43 | 6869565 Dolar in a vortex
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Wow Miles, you really, really care.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 21:33 | 6868793 Stuck on Zero
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Don't you think Hollywood is partly to blame?  They glorify violence. TV spews hundreds of hours of gun violence through every home in America.  Advertising works as testified to by the huge television ad budgets.  That same media pushes violence continuously.  Why doesn't the President go after the media for promoting violence?

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:45 | 6869019 Socratic Dog
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Err, coz they fund him?  And in the background, rule him?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:58 | 6869665 FIAT CON
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Last week it was a cop, blowing away someone!!!! 16 shots wasn't it?

But that's ok because a cop killed witht a gun.

 Cop's, .gov and people of MENA are the only ones allowed to kill with guns.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:17 | 6867935 Misanthropus
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Brought to you by the Religion of Peace.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:57 | 6868136 Billy the Poet
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Donald Trump mocks the disabled and then a center for disabled people comes under attack. Coincidence?

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:26 | 6868302 Government need...
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Look, it's Billy the raghead with the attempt to divert negative attention away from his jihadis.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 20:15 | 6868504 Billy the Poet
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It's a ball cap, dude. Why do you hate America?

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 21:05 | 6868693 Government need...
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Stop plotting to bomb the nation's Capitol.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:15 | 6868911 stacking12321
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this nation's capitol could use a good bombing, reduce the whole thing to a smoldering crater for all i care!

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 23:16 | 6869131 NidStyles
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Disagree, there is no reason to kill innocent people just because some dirty Semites are fucking scumbags. 

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 20:05 | 6868459 ajax
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Did Trump "mock" the disabled? Then he should be having problems, not the disabled...

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 20:19 | 6868519 MANvsMACHINE
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Did the shooter have hair that looked like a dead animal? If so, I think I can ID him.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 20:19 | 6868526 Billy the Poet
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The Donald is differently abled. That's why the service squirrel sits so loyally upon his head. It's touching, really.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 21:01 | 6868672 tmosley
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He mocked someone who happened to be disabled, not for being disabled.

So much for equality.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 21:53 | 6868845 ajax
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@tmosley

Thanks for the explanation. I'm not spending a lot my time listening to The Donald. I had no idea of the 'disabled' flap going around.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 11:53 | 6870761 FrankDrakman
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Er.. almost. At one point, Trump started flapping his arms around (the reporter in question has some kind of palsy), which seems to me to be mocking the guy's disability.

However, everyone in the world seems perfectly happy to mock Trump's hair. Why is baldness/toupees OK to mock, but palsy isn't? I doubt Trump or most men desire to be bald, anymore than that reporter wanted his disability.

So, I do agree with you on "so much for equality". As George told us, some animals are more equal than others.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:47 | 6869025 Socratic Dog
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Good point Billy.  Nice way to put Trump out of business, if he really is a threat.  Which I doubt.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 23:17 | 6869133 NidStyles
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your avatar is a threat to my clothing.

Fri, 12/04/2015 - 23:18 | 6878932 Misanthropus
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Bit baffled by the downvotes vs. upvotes. Is it because people took me literally, or is it that the PC crowd didn't appreciate my /sarc?

Just for points of clarification. I don't view Islam as a religion of "Peace." I view it as an ideological cult. So now the up and down votes (in context) should be more accurate.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:26 | 6867281 One Day Only
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Let's get a heat map on that mass shooting count. I bet I could tell you where they were grouped...

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:48 | 6868088 Son of Loki
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So .... are these white Muslims? ... or white hispanics? ... or mocha Blacks? .... possibly white whites? ... Blacks who identify as whites? ...

 

It gets complex nowadays.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:23 | 6867259 salvadordaly
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As a matter of fact there was police drills being carried out just a few blocks away at the time. They were able to respound quickly to the scene. Imagine that?

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:31 | 6867312 McMolotov
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As the Church Lady would say, "How convenient!"

I was at my parents' house when the Planned Parenthood shooting was going on, and they had Fox News on the teevee (as usual). Almost every "analyst" said something about how we need to make sure the police keep getting their military equipment so they can fight against such threats to national security as one loony with a gun. That was also convenient, guest after guest saying the exact same thing.

Never let a crisis go to waste...

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:48 | 6867392 Squid Viscous
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the only thing I don't miss re: my parents' passing, is having to listen to Faux news at volume level 78/100

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 17:44 | 6867771 847328_3527
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So why do these guys blow away seemingly relatively innocent people instead of the real criminals?

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 17:48 | 6867796 BlindMonkey
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I would love to grab a hot bag of popcorn and watch a hostage standoff at the Goldman Sachs board meeting live on TV.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:09 | 6867891 Ms. Erable
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With all of the HVT's in the area (IRS office, DMV, courts, etc.), why would the cops waste manpower protecting Planned fucking Parenthood?

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:50 | 6868101 Son of Loki
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b/c they're people too?

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:01 | 6868159 Billy the Poet
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Have a heart, guys. If you don't have a heart you can pick up one cheap down at Planned Parenthood.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:31 | 6868960 Heros Edge
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For the same reason they would be reporting a manhunt for 3 white males, knowing that the suspects were covered head to toe and wearing masks.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:37 | 6869337 Mute Button
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To save lives.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:37 | 6869339 Mute Button
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To save lives.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:27 | 6867979 Baby Bladeface
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"

So why do these guys blow away seemingly relatively innocent people instead of the real criminals?"

Because they are paid not until finished job.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:48 | 6869507 conscious being
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Strangely, reminiscent of this incident - Euthanasia Day at the hospital.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 21:57 | 6868855 ajax
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@847328_3527

Because the REAL CRIMINALS all have bodyguards!!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 00:46 | 6869361 RevIdahoSpud3
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Because the public identifies with everyday average people and who see themselves as one, or possibly as a victim. Whereas, if a bad guy was put down no one would care, in fact, many or most would cheer. These events are stagged so that the everyday mom, dad and aunt Louise will finally say enough is enough just take the guns already.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 17:53 | 6867825 MayIMommaDogFac...
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having to listen to Faux news at volume level 78/100

I thinking you forgot to include "continuously at all hours of the day and night..."  My folks are still alive so I can really relate.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 21:02 | 6868675 Jendrzejczyk
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It's usually the thermostat set at 100 that boils my butt.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:55 | 6869059 Socratic Dog
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Mine are still alive, and they read books.

Dangerous subversives.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 21:03 | 6868684 tmosley
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The way I understand it, the building that was attacked has an active shooter drill once a month, and has had for quite some time.

"Pure coincidence."

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:51 | 6867422 TuPhat
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Dressed in Military gear and shooting people.  They just wanted to act like policemen.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:08 | 6867881 Citxmech
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And they "escaped?"  Really?  How the fuck to three people shoot-up 20+ people and then just get away?

Or is it that they "blended back in?" . . . 

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:33 | 6868006 Baby Bladeface
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Comment above you said they in military forms dressed and so dressed also police.

Probably wore goon squad riot helmets with face guard opaque, talked into radios handhelds, blend in with crowd of swat.

Might not surprise if escape made by just get in unattended police vehicle and drive.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:05 | 6868187 Citxmech
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What I was getting at was if police showed up on the scene uncharacteristically quickly wearing roughly the same gear - we may have an answer as to how the shooters "got away."

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:48 | 6868074 Tall Tom
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Well planned and executed as a Military Op.

 

How long were they at the scene?

 

One ofthe first reponders, an owner of a business, reported that he holstered up and went out to protect his business.

 

He said that they were there less than Three Minutes.

 

Get in, do it, get out.

 

What are the response times for police?

 

When seconds count you can be assured that the Police are minutes away.

 

Well that statement is just as true whether you are being victimized...or...you are the perpetrator.

 

In a crowd 28 targets in three minutes is very easy, too easy, as this attack has so tragically demonstrated.

 

If there had been someone there with a CCW Permit then the outcome may have been quite different. But you will not find too many dealing with the Mentally Ill wanting to be carrying weapons as they may be bum rushed and the weapon taken away..

 

(This one has LEA or Paramilitary Militia written all over it. Too well executed.)

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:27 | 6868309 Government need...
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CIA went to their top shelf mercs for this one!

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:48 | 6868381 rapetrain
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Don't be silly. Shooting up a retard center? I don't think anybody can identify with that. 

Some stupid administrator probably pissed off the wrong person. Lesson? Don't be a dick.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:13 | 6869504 Tall Tom
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Yurns out that some stupid administrator was the wrong person.

 

Lesson? Don't trust your government.

 

And as for your slight on retards...I think that you resemble that.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 20:47 | 6868626 logicalman
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Given the number of surveillance cameras around, this kind of shit should be impossible - assuming you believe that massive surveillance 'works' in any way, other than as a means of control.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:02 | 6868867 ajax
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"Given the number of surveillance cameras around, this kind of shit should be impossible"

What? Surveillance cameras can only record whatever is going on - NOT PREVENT OR STOP A SHOOT-OUT.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:54 | 6868411 Slurm
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Active shooter drills at this very facility EVERY month. 

 

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-dram...

 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:22 | 6869524 conscious being
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Busted.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:24 | 6867962 o r c k
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Another "drill" going on nearby ??? Amazing beyond belief.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:47 | 6868374 rapetrain
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For your comment to have any merit, you would have to establish that drills are out-of-the-ordinary.

Your comment means nothing if there are 2 or 3 drills per week.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:41 | 6869002 tmosley
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But when so many drills only happen at a place that happens to get shot up?

I used to work at the largest building between Dallas and Denver, and we never once had an active shooter drill. We had posted procedures for an active shooter but that was it. We had a fire drill once per year.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:01 | 6868162 steveharless
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"Active shooter" drill in San Bernardino County (date of article: November 27, 2015). Drills are always associated with Rothschild false-flags. 

http://www.vvng.com/vvc-alerts-public-to-upcoming-active.../

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:30 | 6868313 Franktastic
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Yeah I can see it now, hey you guys, It is time for you 3 guys go shoot some place up and come back in 30 mins and finish your training.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 17:09 | 6867538 BarryTheBolshevik
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Most likely NEP,
.
It has been confirmed that, thank the lord, there were police actively training nearby! Wow! Imagine how much worse this could have been were it not for the ironic training nearby!?

Those "killers" couldn't have picked a better day I suppose...... Wonder how they could have been so unlucky to carry out there plan on the same day. Oh, we are all so lucky aren't we??

Those evil "terrorists" keep picking the exact same days as police / military training all the time it seems.. Let's see, the same thing happened in Paris and in Mali, and now here, and ..........

What a FUCKING JOKE. Why can't sheep see through this bullshit? Man, are people fucking ignorant........... There is no hope,

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:04 | 6867874 Herd Redirectio...
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I imagine the 'drill' bit is how they keep insiders quiet.  Before you are even told of the drill, you sign your rights away, and then told "You're not allowed to speak about any part of this, remember you already signed XXX.  Plus, you're in line for a promotion.  Wouldn't want anything bad to happen to your wife and kids, either, right?  Its for the good of the country"

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 20:35 | 6868587 NidStyles
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Sorry, I doubt any of these people were in our armed forces. Maybe Mossad, but not in our armed forces. 

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:49 | 6868093 Flagit
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And you know well enough by now that if you don't post a link, it didn't happen.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:32 | 6869539 conscious being
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Barry the B - re. Drills preceeding 'events' "Let's see, the same thing happened in Paris and in Mali, and now here ..."

you left out the 9/11 Norad drill and the Boston Matathon PA announcement, prior to the bomb going off that surprise, a drill was under way.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 17:32 | 6867699 OldPhart
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Not that I'm aware of, but there was one at the college down the road yesterday.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:02 | 6867337 JRobby
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At 12:35 PST They ID a person with a black mask on in a black GMC Yukon sitting in the parking lot.

He might be a bad guy.............

This is good listening.

Later

1:01 PST and they have not made contact with the SUV yet. Sounds pretty chaotic.

Later

2:30 - 3:00 PST They got away

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:12 | 6867171 THX 1178
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3 white males dressed in military gear. Oh shit. 3 means militia rather than lone gunman. White means right wing rather then muslim. military means militia/ militarized. FUCK FUCK FUCKF CUFK CUFKC FUCK FUCK This is bad. Fedgov is about to clamp down.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:26 | 6867278 nuubee
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Wait, I don't understand, when the race is brown, black, asian, or some mix of the three, the media always blasts anyone who rushes to judgement on exactly who is doing the shooting and why...

 

But when white males do it, their profile is released to the world within seconds?

 

Yeah, definitely some kind of large white-male-dominated patriarchal society we live in , yep, absolutely.

 

////S

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 20:21 | 6868530 DetectiveStern
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Why do they never cover their faces. If you can afford guns you can afford a balaclava.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:44 | 6869012 Bunghole
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The ones with skull mouths were on sale for Black Friday.

Tacticool

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:27 | 6867290 LawsofPhysics
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LOL!, yes, they will be killed but no one will see them because they will be "buried at sea" in accordance with their "religious beliefs"...

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:54 | 6867435 my_nym
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So, so cynical...  but hilarious. 

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:35 | 6867320 NoVa
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why does these nut jobs always attack "safe" places?  churches, colleges, retard centers...?

Why don't they visit my shooting range and see what happens???

 

NoVa

 

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 17:31 | 6867689 Miles Ahead
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Your shooting range IS a retard center.  You Sunday Morning cardboard shooters would piss your khakis and loafers if something started shooting back, drop your pee-shooters and stampede one another at the exits.

/no

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 17:35 | 6867718 LawsofPhysics
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Pretty bold statement considering all the veterans in a country that has been perpetually at war.

 

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 17:48 | 6867790 Miles Ahead
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Veterans don't have to go to a shooting range.  That part comes before the 'veteran' part.  Thereafter if we want to shoot, we just go out back.

Shooting range...  anyway, fuck him for saying "retard center".

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:01 | 6867864 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Thereafter if we want to shoot, we just go out back.

Try that out in the backyard of a home in a large city -- then let us know how it works out, ok?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 02:37 | 6869549 conscious being
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MIMDF - I think the point, at least to me, is get out of the city.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:21 | 6867904 Bay of Pigs
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He is calling bullshit on the continuing bullshit narrative and story Einstein.

No offense to retards out there, as we have plenty posting in here too...ZH is all inclusive.

 

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:07 | 6868206 JRobby
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You should try to hide your IQ more effectively Miles. Euthanization is the best for your case.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:38 | 6868989 Chaos_Theory
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Accurate shooting is a perishable skill.  Any veteran or LE or hunter will tell you that.  There's a reason every military installation has a shooting range and CADM cadre.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:11 | 6870901 FrankDrakman
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I dunno how perishable the ability to shoot someone 15 yards away is. However, as a boy ~12 or 11, my younger brother and I were watching the guys next door shoot clay pigeons over the farmer's field out back. They'd nick one out of three, but we thought it was really cool. My dad, ex-Navy, ex-cup winner for shooting, but hadn't fired a gun in ten years, comes walking over. "Mind if I take few shots, Grant?" he sez. "Pull", bang, "Pull", bang, "Pull", bang. Every bird completely obliterated in a puff of smoke. "Nice gun, Grant" he says, handing it back and walks away. Never quite looked at the old boy the same after that!

However, to your point, wasn't 'training' the reason the FBI/DHS/IRS gave for the purchase of a few hundred millions rounds the last couple of years?

 

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:15 | 6868194 SweetDougisaTwat
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my reply was misplaced, so I have removed it.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 23:50 | 6869205 wee-weed up
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Officials say gunmen were probably American citizens "not terrorists."

What politically correct bullshit is that?

Many muslims who ARE US citizens not only sympathise with...

But ARE Islamic terrorists themselves! They're just waiting for orders to strike.

We need to wake the fuck up!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 03:54 | 6869660 RevIdahoSpud3
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To keep it in context it was an "Officials" that made the statement. That would be a .gov person at  some level, you know, the ones who are

charged with caring for us from cradle to grave, the ones that act in the public interest at all times, the ones that know best and are always right and

the ones that carry out orders without thinking of or asking any questions as to why.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 17:52 | 6867819 SFGM
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White could also mean Russian Spetsnaz... it's not like they couldn't walk right in from Mexico.

Could be a taste of the "grey terror" that this Suvorov guy talks about in Russia's long term plan against the US:

Excerpt:

"...We already know from defector testimony that Russia’s war plan incorporates the use of false flag terrorist diversionary operations in the early stages of the next world war. GRU defector Viktor Suvorov explained long ago that such operations were referred to as “gray terror”.

The United States government isn’t looking at the problem squarely. They are looking away from the main threat, toward a tertiary threat. This is a fatal error, because the war we are in isn’t simply a war against Muslim extremists. It is a much broader, more deceptive conflict. 

The United States has never been nearer to destruction..."

 

 

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:07 | 6867883 Herd Redirectio...
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Lets not leave Mossad out of this!

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:25 | 6868298 Citxmech
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No way.  "Special interest group terror attacks" are designed to restrict specific behavior or incite certain groups to leave the area. "State sponsered terror" is designed to shut down economies.  "False flag terror" is designed to facilitate a fascist agenda.

If Russia wanted to fuck with the US, we'd be way more fucked if they coordinated multiple "randon" urban snipers along with coordinated power station and other infrastructure attacks like gas lines and RR tracks, etc.  

Could you imagine, for instance, what would happen if every day a different major airport control tower took even a single bullet? 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:46 | 6871117 FrankDrakman
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You've never boiled a frog, have you?

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:10 | 6868895 ajax
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Any old piece of shit can walk right into the USA through the Southern border. Anytime, anyhow and for any reason.

That's why FATCA was enacted right??!!

HUGE SARC

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 21:06 | 6868695 tmosley
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Des bois ain't wite!

Seriously, with a mask on, you can't tell an arab from a white guy. The fact that they haven't told us the race pretty much confirms that they weren't white (which was my first assumption given the fact that they used body armor).

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 23:14 | 6869127 Socratic Dog
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What? Whites don't use body armour? Or masks?  Where did that come from?

Look up Patriot Plate for an affordable supplier.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 23:36 | 6869178 tmosley
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Read my post again. I at first assumed they were white because they used body armor, now it seems that they were Muslims.

Of course, we still need your guns, goyim.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:10 | 6867150 vq1
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always come here first. Then go see how MSM spins it

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:01 | 6868164 Flagit
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Don't treat Tyler like he is the second coming. He has his own agenda, that at times does not seem far from TBTB.

Think I'm joking? Just look at how many of his pieces parrot the official narrative. NOT the whole, just small parts.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 19:47 | 6868366 Escrava Isaura
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Unfortunately you are right.

 

Just look at “The Rise Of The Right: French Nationalists Hunt, Beat Muslims.”

 

It was a total fabrication.

 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 04:00 | 6869668 RevIdahoSpud3
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Maybe 10-20 ZHr's could meet personally with Tyler, like a board meeting of sorts and explain what we expect of him?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 06:58 | 6869824 Escrava Isaura
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He doesn’t need to be told not to report misinformation and propaganda.

 

But Zero Hedge is not Wikipedia that survives on donations from its readers, such as me.

 

Second, by reading Zero Hedge comments of endless drivel and opinions that can’t ever be substantiated, maybe Zero Hedge is becoming what Zero Hedge needs to become to survive, kind of a Fox blog.

 

And that will be unfortunate.

 

 

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:32 | 6868002 justdues
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Pesky Mossads ....always manage to get away

 

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 18:47 | 6868078 Flagit
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Notice the Twitter feed from Mr. Green @Mario_Greenly,

who is openly against the Assad regime.

Funny that out of the hundreds of people, you choose to post him.

Fucking sellout faggot.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 20:09 | 6868473 Flagit
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Hey Mario, what's up?

Enjoying your 15 minutes of fame?

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 22:11 | 6868899 Kirk2NCC1701
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If Tyler were Marla  (esp. as seen in Fight Club), I'd commit adultery.   Sorry, Mrs. Kirk.  ;-)

Since he's a guy, I'll settle for buying a steak dinner, scotch and Cuban cigars. If he wants Russian fish eggs from the Volga, he'll have to but his own.

Wed, 12/02/2015 - 16:08 | 6867134 NidStyles
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I have to say; you never see these sorts of things in Arizona. 

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