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14 Dead, 17 Wounded In Mass Shooting; Suspects Reportedly US Citizens (2 Dead, 3rd Detained)
Local TV Live Feed...
Update 13: Several ISIS Twitter accounts are already taking credit for this terrible act... no confirmations.
Update 12: Explosions have been heard during a raid of the Redlands residence of Syed Farook.
DEVELOPING: Explosion reported at suspects home in Redlands. Stay with @pzf for the latest.
— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) December 3, 2015
Update 11: A US citizen named Syed Farook is reported by NBC News to be involved in the shooting (along with his brother).
NBC News now reporting a US citizen named Sayeed Farouk believed to be one of the people involved in the shooting.
— Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) December 3, 2015
Update 10: AP reports, a law enforcement official says a workplace dispute probed as possibility in California shooting. Officials say gunmen were probably American citizens "not terrorists."
NY Daily News has a few thoughts...
Fusillade à #SanBernardino: la une du @NYDailyNews https://t.co/1xc5TwxTDK pic.twitter.com/HokRyq29jg
— Carole Aoun (@caroleaoun) December 3, 2015
Update 9: Police confirm an explosive device was found inside the building where the shooting took place. 2 suspects dead (1 male, 1 female), 3rd person detained after running from SUV shootout scene (unclear if involved in shooting). 1 officer wounded.
#SanBernardino police chief: Third person was seen running from SUV scene, person is detained. Unknown if involved pic.twitter.com/oFniWLpGIu
— BuzzFeed News (@BuzzFeedNews) December 3, 2015
1 male, 1 female suspect dead after #SanBernardino shooting : https://t.co/z2gq7cVtZR pic.twitter.com/xvNoMDgUHZ
— ABC 4 News (@abc4utah) December 3, 2015
#SanBernardino Shooting: Bomb squad continues to investigate possibly-explosive device at Inland Regional Center pic.twitter.com/Hv3O55GTMS
— Intl. Business Times (@IBTimes) December 3, 2015
Update 8: Authorities are serving search warrants at a building in Redlands, where on of the suspects may be originally from.
Authorities are serving search warrants at a building in Redlands, @SereneOnScene reports. #breaking #pursuit LIVE: https://t.co/d0126ZB5CX
— CBS Los Angeles (@CBSLA) December 3, 2015
Update 7: The San Bernardino Police chief Burguan tweets that "suspects are down" and one officer is wounded. Unclear if any are still on the loose.
Suspects are down, one officer wounded. Details still unfolding.
— Chief Jarrod Burguan (@SBPDChief) December 3, 2015
And here is an audio recording of the gun battle which took place earlier:
We just received this AUDIO capturing some of the gun battle sent by a witness on #snapchat. #SanBernardino pic.twitter.com/xE4546XHDs
— Gadi Schwartz (@GadiNBCLA) December 3, 2015
Update 6: Still more conflicting information, this time from the chief of police according to whom while 2 suspects are being "dealt with" (which supposedly means one killed and one down), while one is still possibly at large. The police is currently searching for the third suspect.
UPDATE: Police in #SanBernardino: 2 suspects down after police chase, possibly one outstanding. "still very active situation."
— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) December 3, 2015
MORE: 1 possible suspect still outstanding in #SanBernardino shooting: https://t.co/cbh6uXffkp pic.twitter.com/EHYdlj8qs3
— ABC News (@ABC) December 3, 2015
Update 5: the latest from NBC confirms that while one suspect in custody, the number of suspects shot has grown to two which may account for all three of the original suspects reported at the original crime scene.
BREAKING: 1 suspect in custody, 2 shot in #SanBernardino shooting that killed at least 14 https://t.co/jUael0Kzyk pic.twitter.com/GnwmVplfl6
— NBC News (@NBCNews) December 2, 2015
There is a conflicting report according to which one suspect is still at large and has barricaded in a nearby home.
#BREAKING: One Suspect Still at Large in #SanBernadino
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) December 3, 2015
San Bernardino police: "I believe there is still possibly a suspect outstanding"
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) December 3, 2015
According to a third report, a pipe bomb was recovered from the suspect SUV.
MORE: Law enforcement officials say pipe bomb was recovered from suspects in SUV https://t.co/ZKzS7ojK0f pic.twitter.com/iBopyUorxK
— RT America (@RT_America) December 2, 2015
Update 4: According to CBS, one of the suspects is now down and another one is in custody, while a SWAT team prepares to search the suspect's bullet-ridden SUV
BREAKING: Police say one suspect down, one in custody, @CBSLA reports; SWAT team has yet to approach vehicle. pic.twitter.com/rRb10HFKfi
— CBSN (@CBSNLive) December 2, 2015
UPDATE: Armored shield approaching dark-colored SUV. #breaking #pursuit LIVE: https://t.co/d0126ZB5CX pic.twitter.com/K3ttso3UCz
— CBS Los Angeles (@CBSLA) December 2, 2015
Here's Obama:
Watch: @POTUS speaks to @CBSNews on the shooting in San Bernardino. https://t.co/pA56EzrzUW https://t.co/SO0cE5nfCX
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) December 2, 2015
Update 3: High speed chase underway on freeway and reports of arrests made. This has culminated with a shoot out with the police, in which a black SUV probably belonging to the suspect has been perforated by gunfire with helicopter cameras showing that at least on suspect has been shot while an officer is also down after the suspect ran away.
Heavily shot-up SUV...
Someone is down:
I haven't seen anything like this on Live TV since the Hollywood Bank Shootout. San Bernardino just had a shootout. pic.twitter.com/DoJSnSj9cz
— Hi_I'm_RICHIEEEE (@rizman1) December 2, 2015
Police described the case as "a domestic terrorist type situation" at the moment, and a Bomb Threat Reported at Loma Linda University Medical Center in San Bernadino.
They got somebody #SanBernardino More shots fired! They are calling for EMTS pic.twitter.com/WR7yOtbzFM
— Blake Dearing (@DeletedElite) December 2, 2015
Just north of the 10 freeway, on San Bernardino Ave., there have been shots fired between officers and suspects. pic.twitter.com/KoPJ1JSmbI
— reported.ly (@reportedly) December 2, 2015
Update 2: Police confirm:
- *POLICE SAY UP TO THREE PEOPLE OPEN FIRE IN CALIF.
- *POLICE SAY UP TO 14 PEOPLE MAY BE DEAD IN CALIF.
- *POLICE SAY UP TO 14 PEOPLE MAY BE WOUNDED
Update 1: The three suspects are believed to be armed with AK-47-type weapons, a local law enforcement official told CNN
Police storming Inland Center earlier...
Looks like @DHSgov Homeland Security is circling the #SanBernardino area. pic.twitter.com/h63V7GXIZQ
— Mr. Green (@Mario_Greenly) December 2, 2015
As we previously noted,
Police are investigating a report of shots fired in San Bernardino. As CBS LA reports, San Bernardino Fire officials are reporting at least 20 victims and 12 reported casualties in a shooting in the 1300 block of South Waterman. Authorities are advising all motorists to stay away from the area around the Inland Regional Center, a center serving people with developmental disabilities in San Bernardino and Riverside counties.
The Inland Regional Center is a sprawling three-story center serving people with developmental disabilities in San Bernardino and Riverside counties. The non-profit private agency, whose site crashed due to traffic due to news of the shooting, employs nearly 700 people and serves more than 30,000 residents with developmental disabilities for ages ranging from infants to seniors 60 years and older, according to the center’s Facebook page.
Investigators were searching the building and have yet to clear it. Police said there were reports of one to three shooters involved.
Marcos Aguilera's wife was in the building when the gunfire erupted. He said a shooter entered the building next to his wife's office and opened fire.
"They locked themselves in her office. They seen bodies on the floor," Aguilera said, adding that his wife saw ambulances taking people out of the building on stretchers.
According to the latest update, police confirm three shooters at large wearing masks, body armor and armed with rifles.
The ATF and the FBI have arrived on the scene of the shooting.
San Bernardino is deploying heavily armed cops to universities, hospitals, and Planned Parenthood.
According to the latest news, the Waterman discount mall in San Bernardino, CA has been evacuated.
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Police looking for 3 white males dressed in military gear. At least 20 injured (and latest reports say 12 dead).
SBFD units responding to reports of 20 victim shooting incident in 1300 block of S. Waterman. SBPD is working to clear the scene.
— San Bernardino Fire (@SBCityFire) December 2, 2015
Hard Closure at Orange Show Rd/ Waterman and Park Center Circle in San Bernardino. AVOID THE AREA POLICE ACTIVITY!
— SB County Sheriff (@sbcountysheriff) December 2, 2015
.@SanBernardinoPD has confirmed an active shooter in the area of Orange Show Rd/ Waterman Ave near Park center. #SBCSD assisting.
— SB County Sheriff (@sbcountysheriff) December 2, 2015
#Breaking Eye witness: A man came in started shooting, she and a group hid inside her office, they saw multiple bodies on the ground.
— Natasha Fatah (@NatashaFatah) December 2, 2015
The scene of the crime
Police presence is building...
#SanBernardino La police recherche 3 tireurs en tenue militaire. Au moins 12 morts pic.twitter.com/X0aomkOqpv
— Breaking3zero (@Breaking3zero) December 2, 2015
#BREAKING: Active shooter on loose in San Bernardino. Reports of 20 victims. https://t.co/jD63swrFzF #kprc2 pic.twitter.com/5KRPj6z6UH
— KPRC 2 Houston (@KPRC2) December 2, 2015
#SanBernardino pic.twitter.com/CSq4SQgtFy
— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) December 2, 2015
BREAKING: Reports for as many as 12 people fatally shot in San Bernardino... https://t.co/UVR343oIRD pic.twitter.com/7CK9LvB5yU
— ABC 7 Chicago (@ABC7Chicago) December 2, 2015
Putting today's shooting in context, there have been 334 days and 351 mass shootings so far this year, not including this one.
And here is Hillary
I refuse to accept this as normal. We must take action to stop gun violence now. -H https://t.co/SkKglwQycb
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) December 2, 2015
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There actually is an urban camo pattern. Gray, black and white. But it's not real cool, so cops won't use it.
This kind of situation is as close as cops ever get to being Batman. It's like fucking Halloween. They live for this shit.
Thank god for my daily government mandated doze of fear. I was beginning to feel quite relaxed as of late, thinking and contemplating - reading too much of the foreign press, taking too much interest in the Turkey situation. Now I can go back to my favorite reflex responses. Duck, cover and buy some dips while holding onto my precious scissors somewhere inside a designated gun free zone.
and the overtime hazard pay. suit up!
Urban camo:
http://www.teamhard.com/files/2008/backgrounds/MWCurban1280x1024.jpg
This is cool. People could have their own family camo patterns. Like Scottish tartans.
To hide the grease stains from the five guys burgers.
I don't know if the Russian dialect is all part of the show, but I gotta tell you, I love it.
You're not tacticool unless your outfit is 5.11.
That camouflage really works I had to look at the picture for 10 min before I could even see the police
Fuck yeah! I am still looking. I think I have spotted some Japanese from Okinawa, but I am not sure. All these patterns confuse me. I feel like a lion looking at Zebras, all blurred and confused.
I give up, I swear there is no police in the picture. Only Japanese from Okinawa, and maybe a couple of Zebras in the lower corner? maybe!
It's also incredibly offensive to have ROTC cadets on university grounds dress in battle fatigues. It's offensive to foreign students whose countrymen were invaded by the USSA, and also offensive to other students, who signed up for school, not a battle zone.
Thats just fucking ridiculous.
Do the likes of you go around looking to be offended? Your attitude offends me.
Uh..... nope. This is still the United States and you still have the liberty to wear what you want, regardless of whether others might take offense. No way I'm going down the grievance culture path with you or anybody like you.
" No way I'm going down the grievance culture path with you or anybody like you."
I think that we both may have missed the very cleverly hidden sarcasm in that post. Comes with age, I guess.....
I live satire. This is not that and I got a few years under my belt. If it is satire, well, it sucks.
" If it is satire, well, it sucks."
Well, not everybody can be MDB.
MDB was the Master. I really enjoyed his "Accredited Times" website. Belly laughs galore.
This comment is even more funny coming from some dude named "rapetrain."
Tag name TheRapist was already taken
When one signs up for an education that is only made possible (and way more affordable, or less unaffordable) by the cheap energy paid for with the blood of those who previously wore the same fatigues, they should expect to see them on campus. The NIMBY mind(less)set has facilitated too many years of war because shitheads were allowed to pretend it wasn't happening and they weren't benefiting from it (even if they don't get their "fair share" vis-a-vis the elite).
Anyone complaining about some micro aggression of being made to endure that which made their education possible, should receive a taxpayer funded anal raping by bayonet.
>>>too many years of war because shitheads were allowed to pretend it wasn't happening and they weren't benefiting from it
Quoted for truth. IMHO many Amuricans vaguely suspect (or know) they are benefitting from the country's massively corrupt and unsustainable welfare-warfare regime, and this unease trickles out in various forms of self-loathing ideology, and self-defeating behavior.
FWIW I have a very bright brother-in-law, who is also a nice guy, a good dad etc., etc. However, he is deeply embedded in Big Pharma and refuses to admit that the USA's Drug Industry is anything other than a positive contributor to human knowledge and well-being. As he sees it, any problems in American "sick care" would be resolved if only more federal regulation were imposed, and we progressed to Single Payer.
Many police officers suffer from insecurity. That is why they are police and not bankers.
Camo is the tough-guy look according to GQ Magazine and GI Joe movies. They ask for camo and government gives it to them. Yes, it makes them look silly since camo doesn't work in a city, but they feel better about themselves and they break more skulls when they feel good about themselves.
They should ask for the Storm Trooper helmets from Star Wars...
Yeah, they really need to just create money out of nothing like the bankers do. I completely agee.
Welfare state. Mass immigration of freeloaders. US Government is King George 1776. Don't know how it ends but won't be pretty.
I excuse your mistake because english is not your first language. I beleive the word you meant is "steal" not barter. and it was stolen for security theatre. Which actually means shiny toys bought by the us tax payer.
Fuckin Joo World Order
ZH is for intelligent people who call out authority bullcrap. Please take your hater agenda to another forum where people off their meds belong.
How many Federal Reserve Chair'persons' have been Jewish? Just wondering. I'm not even 'anti-Jew' but it's just a bit....odd...dontcha think????????????????
I don't think you're following a very logical conclusion, what % of Jews are pro gun-control?
Is depending which ones you specify.
If ones like Charles Shumer, approaches 100 percent points.
If ones like JPFO, approaches 0 percent points.
The rest is of course varied somewheres between.
And where. In American they're all for gun control.
oh, fuck off you thin skinned rubber. one thing zh is not is a forum for those with thin skin. put on some gatorhide and join the real world.
Jews....is there anything they can't make Muslims do?
Move to Tel Aviv?
Indeed, students would be able to dispatch the shooter posthaste, preventing them from being late to their class on microagressions.
Funny, this not happen at culinary institute campus. Students have chef roll in class, many very sharp and long knives. Many students learn to throw knives with great accuracy. Can't bring knife to gun fight, but three gunmen against whole class of knife throwers not live long.
Operation Gladio Gov sponsored terrorism for political ends. disarm Americans then police state unlimited
More of a reason to carry your roscoe.
"A carry town is a polite town"
Indeed, Mogadishu comes to mind.
Pretty sure it's illegal there.
Sounds like it wasnt so successful.
Please don't confuse a culture that holds life to be of zero value to a culture that holds our own lives to be of value. You and I could live politely even without guns. You and I, given guns, can eliminate most threats to our lives and that of our families.
Africa is a different culture. If you take away the AKs they will use machetes. Take away the machetes, they will use sharp sticks.
It is not the tool, it is the person.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, ManNie NeO,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
In a time of continual "mass shootings" what could be wiser than to strip the vulnerable of all means of defense?
After all "enough is enough!". By corollary, we should downsize our military which has grown far too enormous and without any organized foe, except BoogieHussein. Add up all the shooting numbers against the collateral damage and fun-sized terrorist wack-a-moling done overseas. Rotate out any cops with a record of violence, roll our centurions out of countries we seek to exploit...er, liberate, etc., etc., etc.
Those who wield power capriciously fear nothing more than losing station and becoming subject to their own oppressions. Nothing clearer now than that all our institutions are fully corrupt, nothing is as it seems. What's so distasteful about eating rottenness? Reap what you sow, eat what you reap!
Obviously, this will dominate the US Newz, not the booooring Russian LIES about Turkey!
Ding^5 !
Not taking our guns away. We won't allow it no matter how many flase flags are staged. NO and NO.
"ENOUGH IS ENOUGH"
I can just hear it now!
MORON!
Looking for ketchup empty bottles
Another strategically escorted false flag FBI sponsored gun control event for the lunatics that want all the fucking guns from you and me. They know the financial armageddon is just over the horizon. When a drunk driver kills a family of four they machine gun the car..I suppose that follows their logic.. Car free zone!!
Jihadi fucks
American "Black revolutionaries"
Overmedicated "problem" children
No matter how you slice it, blowback IS a bitch.
Let me guess they found fresh unmarked Syrian passports next to the bodies and a letter from Assad setting out the plan of attack. It will be a shocking find.
Getting ready to sell off that extra AR-15 in my closet in 3...2...
Apparantly, some downvoters dont get what you were trying to state.
Prices will be going up if the Magic Negro gets on TeeVee and start chimping out about banning guns again.
If I had a spare AR, I would consider the same thing.
Especially since AR prices have dropped to around $500 for a no frills model. Back in late 2013, post Sandy Hook, you couldn't touch an AR for under $900.
"Apparantly, some downvoters dont get what you were trying to state.
Exactly, and what they don't understand is:
"If I had a spare AR, I would consider the same thing."
What the heck is a "spare AR"? I've never heard of such an animal. Is it akin to "having too much money" or "too much fun"?
Nice to see a few people can see what i meant, bought a few XM-15 E2S bushmasters few weeks back when market felt a bottom, inflation hedges that also shoot 5.56, can't beat it!
the camo guys got there in a hurry, hmmm
They were "having a drill" right up the street.
I don't want to believe the bullshit theories; but come on.
The modern day mass shooter is actually a caring and considerate person. They take geat pains to ensure that first responders are on the scene as soon as possible. There is a special phone number thay can call to pre-arrange the shooting for a conveneint date.
FWIW - If I and a bunch of my biddies ever lost it and went postal... I might do it at a time and place where the popo gathered in a single location "having a drill" and packing blanks instead of live ammo (it's a high value target rich environment, like firebombing a union hall on vote night, or running a truck bomb into a Marine Corps barracks) . But the civilian-to-pig casualty ratio wouldn't match anything we've seen in previous shootings in the USSA.
Let me guess, Just like the Roseburg Oregon sheriff........ The San Bernadino Sheriff wasnt going to go against the constitution and enforce illegal Federal gun confiscation as well?
Obama: I will take dem guns, oh yes siree boss!
This relentless false flag sh*t is becoming a little desperate, don't yer think.......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/us-gives-their-prox...
Good thing those cops are all camo'd up....
Are they cops? How can you tell?
The doughnut crumb trail
No kidding. Have you seen the footage of all those female Orca cops on the scene?
it is obvious all young white male americans must all be sent to fema camps because they are fucking nutz!
Wow, great response to gun free zones, magazine round limits of 10, and all of the other cool rules and regulations in California.
I guarantee you that they are going to find Syrian passports on those guys once they have been killed.
Then O'Blammie can shut down the country with martial law, and live happily ever after, as King O'Blammie, the Robert Mugabe of the USA.
A multi-cultural Merry Christmas and Happy Massshooting to all!
False. Flag. Why do these " Terrorists " always go after the most innocent victims????? False. FLAG.
False. Flag. Why do these " Terrorists " always go after the most innocent victims????? False. FLAG.
And the fucking Repuklicans are worried about Syrians. This country is fucked up
Domsitic terroism not workplace viloence?
This is totally impossible. We have the FBI, DHS, TSA, CIA, NSA, plus more alphabet agencies listening and watching our phone calls, emails, regular mail, morse codes, and probably reading our minds also, be serious, can't happen.
A quote from Bloomberg:
"FBI Los Angeles Assistant Director in Charge David Bowdich said officials didn’t yet know whether the incident in the city, which is about 60 miles (97 kilometers) east of Los Angeles, was terrorism."
I would like to have this defined. Are you more or less dead whether shot by a terrorist, a moderate terrorist or an American citizen?
America, face the fact, you have terrorized the whole world, and in the process damaged the world and yourself!
You are reaping what you have sowed and nothing is going to change that. You have deep wounds and your people have lost it. As Gerald Celente says, "when people have nothing left to loose, they loose it" and that is the case.
As a society, you are sick to the core, and yet you try and force this sickness on the rest of the world.
I feel sorry for you, but this is going to continue. You are the land of the living dead.
With a name like Syed Farook I'm pretty sure his Muslim first, jihad 2nd, halal 3rd and US citizen 4th.
Shoot first ask questions maybe later, but I would prefer to just grenade him first.
Another fucking false flag.
YES TRUTHER
Jacob Tapper and Wolfie Blitzer set for 4 hours of coverage on CNN
At least it isn't piers Morgan.
All the blood and guts, the splintered bone and pools of leaky bodies. It looked like a war zone or the Kennedy asssassination!
Very sanitary shooting gallery. I've seen messier paintballers.
Were they in a gun free safe zone like all these other shootings?
California.
Of course. Pretty much every mass shooting in the last 50 years has been in one. I'm surprised there haven't been some successful lawsuits, given the deaths are directly attributable to a denial of constituional rights.
Sooooo glad that I walk around everywhere with my springfield XDS 3.3 45 on my side. It is a good feeling!
Barry: "But they will never give up their guns..."
Lackey #1: "Let's stage a bunch of shootings!"
Barry: "I like it."
Lackey #2: "Oh! And let's have them at govt facilities so we can blame all the right wingers."
Barry: "Perfect."
And so it began.
Any "Drills" being performed in that area today or in the past week ala France?
WTF? Are we going to have a false flag a week until Barry gets his anti-gun agenda passed?
Look! Squirrel!
yes, i expect they will double down soo too
duplicate comment
We will have them thrice a day, breakfast, lunch and dinner.
"WTF? Are we going to have a false flag a week until Barry gets his anti-gun agenda passed?"
Yes.
HAHA, no.
Then it just gets worse. They want us asking for permission to leave our house.
"Hello Central Services, it's time for me to go to work, can you unlock my electronic deadbolt, and activate my car, pls."
This will continue until we kill the bastards.
You listening Homeland?
Boy they're pouring it on heavy with the false flags these days
people act like you are insane when you explain sandy hook. cog dis in effect
I'd love to hear you explain Sandy Hook. Really. Love to hear what you think you know, and what you don't actually know.
Waiting...
[Edit: the predictable response - down arrowed but no retort]
Still waiting...
If the invention of an AR-15 live on air wasnt sufficient, if the payoffs werent sufficient, if the loop de loop around the school wasnt sufficient, if the school shooting training next door wasnt sufficient, if the decomissioned asbestos laden school that the town didnt want to pay for its demo given the asbestos wasnt sufficient, if fucking gene rosen wasnt sufficient, if the fact that not a single parent saw the body of their dead child aside from the single provable child death that was procured was not sufficient...
drink up, I hear the kool aid's good, but I've not tried it.
Where did the kids go then? Are the parents real or are they actors? What's the truth, I'm guessing you live there!
oh cripes, that's like listening to people talk about 911 and say "well, if a missile hit the pentagon, where's all those people, HMMM?" like I have to answer that question accurately, lest all other observations simply be discarded!
all I know is that there's some folks not here that were here before and the story told to describe why has more holes in it than my great grandfather's barn built in the 50s, so much so that it strains one's credulity to even be told these tall tales.
it matters not what happened to them; they are gone and none of us can explain where, whether they were gased and incinerated or put on a rockefeller's plate - we'd have no way of knowing one way or the other - and none of us has to explain where these people went, its a total straw man to even go there.
Almosts sounds as if you were there. But you weren't.
I was.
ahhh ok I get it; massive emotional trauma causes you to actively ignore facts about the shooting. gotta cope somehow
Which facts? Hint: there is always and only one set of facts.
What is a 'fact?'
You were where? Are you a state cop and were you on the premises that day?
thought not, you have news reports to go by.
State cops were not the only ones on scene that day. I'm amazed at how much you assume you know. Trying to claim knowledge of who I am with absolutely no information whatsoever. Perhaps you should tell me what I was doing that day, then.
Believe it or not, some people of this world live in Newtown, CT. Some of them even had children in the school that day. And some were first responders on the scene other than police (there were lots).
People die, and you immediately rush to judge how those deaths are part of a larger conspiracy aimed at you. I am struggling to understand what is more selfish than that.
Amazed at how much I think I know? Stop the passive aggressive kid bullshit, pal. I did not immediately rush to judgement on anything - like most any event, it must pass through the ultimate arbiter of bullshit in my world, my own conscious reasoning. And when my conscious reasoning tells me something stinks to high heaven and there's an official story ridden with holes that dont add up, I am not in the least bit inclined to believe the Official™ version of Troof™.
You know where you can stick the bleeding-heart completely-devoid-of-reason and entirely reliant on your heart strings kool-aid-drinking take on this.
How do you know whether I was there or not? What is your basis for knowing that?
While you're at it, tell me this: if you're approaching Sandy Hook from Newtown HS, what is the name of the dress shop, across from Subway? And do you turn left or right to get to SHES? And do you pass Treadwell Park before or after SHES?
You should be able to know those things, too. But you can't without looking them up. Because you don't live there.
its been quite a long time since I worked in newtown. irrelevant.
you simply sound like a new yorker that believes the 911 commission report "because I was in new york that day, I saw it happen" and nevermind that oh jeez look, I'm relying on MSM news!
you havent said a single thing that says you have an objective or informed viewpoint here - its just "I believe, because this happened in my town."
I was not the one who claimed to know what happened. That was you.
my retort: Stop being a naive pussy and live in the real world
So you don't know.
Since this is obviously an organic "wackoes" going haywire with firearms--and since none does so with killing instruments like slingshots, pizza cutters, knives, big black SUVs, rapid-fire crossbows, or samurai swords--lets take only GUN instruments away. By the same logic, let's take away sweet rolls (diabetes), sex organs (HIV), motor vehicles (DUI, accidnts), airplanes (fall out of sky, bad), relationships (domestic violent deaths), races (I hates me some whitey, honky, ____________ (color)), liquor (drunk violence), cashier all military (kills me some (countrymen not enfranchised to the world order)).
All very bad theater. All a prelude to real suffering. Cry me a river while we hold the constitution and bill of rights. These people (the crisis actors) couldn't shine a shoe, so to eat they takes their directions and acts their part. Tares must have their day before the winnowing.
TSA same. Any terrorists subdued, denied their terror lust? Nope. But lotsa checks cashed.
Galt's gulch. Just try and setup that spot. Mercenaries on you doubletime. This is a rotten planet, managed by goofy dumbasses. There must be better management somewhere else in the galaxy! Until then one must endure the unendurable. Or read Zero Hedge. Which is, of course, sacrosanct and beyond any touch.
im sure its Russia, ISIS, ISIL, AL Nusra Front.....
Don't be racisss. Clearly it was caused by global warming.
Or, DAESH, FSA, IS more likely NSA, FBI, AlCIAduh! God damn all this bullshit is beyond ridiculous!
Black Friday gun sale response. Get those . Gov contractors to conjour up a mass shooting. Got to stop americans gearing up
That's razzizt. Black guns on black Friday. Pretty soon you're all gonna be claiming all the guns wuz bein's bought by scared white folks to massacre innocent blacks with their hands up yellin' "hands up, don't shoot, yo!"
From the looks of the pic. I didn't know the National Gaurd was called out Howver, the lines have been blurred to the point where one cannot tell the difference.
Fascist Pigs all the same.
Wow. Make sure to have a rifle in the backseat. See something, take action!
Definitely carry a firearm in the car so the street people will have something to steal. Then they can graduate from urban pests to public dangers.
Think he had a beard.... or was at least contemplating growing one at some point.
How fucked up of a world is it when californians are literally MORE SAFE in the hood (because criminals dont follow laws and have all the guns / 10+ round clips in the world to protect themselves) than anywhere else in the state!
Just a guess, another ZH hate nutcase on the loose?
check out the military fatigues in the picture............
Did they find a passport yet? That will clear up everything.
Yea, and, I want to see the bodies. If any.
"buried at sea" in accordance with "their religious beliefs"...
They only appear when there's a firery explosion.
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Yes, is found fake Turkish passport manufactured in Syria.
Can mean only one thing: sneaky Putin.
Americans are their own worst enemy
Adult Care Center?
Crazy old white guy no doubt.
can someone explain to me this "active" shooter concept. I mean is there any other kind? ?
An inactive one? As in "pausing to reload"?
or maybe when they are "done," out of ammo or just tired.
waiting for orders from the Director?
i believe a passive shooter would be someone who is casually shooting, maybe while sitting on the couch and appearing disinterested while doing so.
Now, not to laugh at the losses, but that is hilarious.
Wins the internets today.
I think it's a police concept involving a shooter who has not 'killed himself yet." The cops won't move in until the shooter is dead.
Unless there's an opportunity to shoot civilians. Then it's gun on.
Yes. Shoot hostages until you can get the one with the gun.
Ongoing, as far as known
Bascially the US has become one big, massive electronic prison camp. Terms like "active shooter" once were primarily beloved by Law Enforcement.
But since 911 & the advent of the Dept of Homeland Security more and more prison management lingo and activity (searches, invasive questioning) has entered our daily diet of news and misinformation from sources like CNN, FOX, local news, .gov
"Lockdown" along with "active shooter," is a big one these days. That's lingo straight from the State Pen being used to describe situations in schools, malls etc.
there are many other examples. All part cof the conditioning....
Another Syrian refugee on the loose. We need to build a wall.
Queue up Obama.
Why the fuck are they in desert camo?
I was thinking the same thing.? They look like they're going on recon mission in Mosul.
cmon captain... we never get to wear the desert camo... pleaaaase, its almost christmas.