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14 Dead, 17 Wounded In Mass Shooting; Suspects Reportedly US Citizens (2 Dead, 3rd Detained)
Local TV Live Feed...
Update 13: Several ISIS Twitter accounts are already taking credit for this terrible act... no confirmations.
Update 12: Explosions have been heard during a raid of the Redlands residence of Syed Farook.
DEVELOPING: Explosion reported at suspects home in Redlands. Stay with @pzf for the latest.
— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) December 3, 2015
Update 11: A US citizen named Syed Farook is reported by NBC News to be involved in the shooting (along with his brother).
NBC News now reporting a US citizen named Sayeed Farouk believed to be one of the people involved in the shooting.
— Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) December 3, 2015
Update 10: AP reports, a law enforcement official says a workplace dispute probed as possibility in California shooting. Officials say gunmen were probably American citizens "not terrorists."
NY Daily News has a few thoughts...
Fusillade à #SanBernardino: la une du @NYDailyNews https://t.co/1xc5TwxTDK pic.twitter.com/HokRyq29jg
— Carole Aoun (@caroleaoun) December 3, 2015
Update 9: Police confirm an explosive device was found inside the building where the shooting took place. 2 suspects dead (1 male, 1 female), 3rd person detained after running from SUV shootout scene (unclear if involved in shooting). 1 officer wounded.
#SanBernardino police chief: Third person was seen running from SUV scene, person is detained. Unknown if involved pic.twitter.com/oFniWLpGIu
— BuzzFeed News (@BuzzFeedNews) December 3, 2015
1 male, 1 female suspect dead after #SanBernardino shooting : https://t.co/z2gq7cVtZR pic.twitter.com/xvNoMDgUHZ
— ABC 4 News (@abc4utah) December 3, 2015
#SanBernardino Shooting: Bomb squad continues to investigate possibly-explosive device at Inland Regional Center pic.twitter.com/Hv3O55GTMS
— Intl. Business Times (@IBTimes) December 3, 2015
Update 8: Authorities are serving search warrants at a building in Redlands, where on of the suspects may be originally from.
Authorities are serving search warrants at a building in Redlands, @SereneOnScene reports. #breaking #pursuit LIVE: https://t.co/d0126ZB5CX
— CBS Los Angeles (@CBSLA) December 3, 2015
Update 7: The San Bernardino Police chief Burguan tweets that "suspects are down" and one officer is wounded. Unclear if any are still on the loose.
Suspects are down, one officer wounded. Details still unfolding.
— Chief Jarrod Burguan (@SBPDChief) December 3, 2015
And here is an audio recording of the gun battle which took place earlier:
We just received this AUDIO capturing some of the gun battle sent by a witness on #snapchat. #SanBernardino pic.twitter.com/xE4546XHDs
— Gadi Schwartz (@GadiNBCLA) December 3, 2015
Update 6: Still more conflicting information, this time from the chief of police according to whom while 2 suspects are being "dealt with" (which supposedly means one killed and one down), while one is still possibly at large. The police is currently searching for the third suspect.
UPDATE: Police in #SanBernardino: 2 suspects down after police chase, possibly one outstanding. "still very active situation."
— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) December 3, 2015
MORE: 1 possible suspect still outstanding in #SanBernardino shooting: https://t.co/cbh6uXffkp pic.twitter.com/EHYdlj8qs3
— ABC News (@ABC) December 3, 2015
Update 5: the latest from NBC confirms that while one suspect in custody, the number of suspects shot has grown to two which may account for all three of the original suspects reported at the original crime scene.
BREAKING: 1 suspect in custody, 2 shot in #SanBernardino shooting that killed at least 14 https://t.co/jUael0Kzyk pic.twitter.com/GnwmVplfl6
— NBC News (@NBCNews) December 2, 2015
There is a conflicting report according to which one suspect is still at large and has barricaded in a nearby home.
#BREAKING: One Suspect Still at Large in #SanBernadino
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) December 3, 2015
San Bernardino police: "I believe there is still possibly a suspect outstanding"
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) December 3, 2015
According to a third report, a pipe bomb was recovered from the suspect SUV.
MORE: Law enforcement officials say pipe bomb was recovered from suspects in SUV https://t.co/ZKzS7ojK0f pic.twitter.com/iBopyUorxK
— RT America (@RT_America) December 2, 2015
Update 4: According to CBS, one of the suspects is now down and another one is in custody, while a SWAT team prepares to search the suspect's bullet-ridden SUV
BREAKING: Police say one suspect down, one in custody, @CBSLA reports; SWAT team has yet to approach vehicle. pic.twitter.com/rRb10HFKfi
— CBSN (@CBSNLive) December 2, 2015
UPDATE: Armored shield approaching dark-colored SUV. #breaking #pursuit LIVE: https://t.co/d0126ZB5CX pic.twitter.com/K3ttso3UCz
— CBS Los Angeles (@CBSLA) December 2, 2015
Here's Obama:
Watch: @POTUS speaks to @CBSNews on the shooting in San Bernardino. https://t.co/pA56EzrzUW https://t.co/SO0cE5nfCX
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) December 2, 2015
Update 3: High speed chase underway on freeway and reports of arrests made. This has culminated with a shoot out with the police, in which a black SUV probably belonging to the suspect has been perforated by gunfire with helicopter cameras showing that at least on suspect has been shot while an officer is also down after the suspect ran away.
Heavily shot-up SUV...
Someone is down:
I haven't seen anything like this on Live TV since the Hollywood Bank Shootout. San Bernardino just had a shootout. pic.twitter.com/DoJSnSj9cz
— Hi_I'm_RICHIEEEE (@rizman1) December 2, 2015
Police described the case as "a domestic terrorist type situation" at the moment, and a Bomb Threat Reported at Loma Linda University Medical Center in San Bernadino.
They got somebody #SanBernardino More shots fired! They are calling for EMTS pic.twitter.com/WR7yOtbzFM
— Blake Dearing (@DeletedElite) December 2, 2015
Just north of the 10 freeway, on San Bernardino Ave., there have been shots fired between officers and suspects. pic.twitter.com/KoPJ1JSmbI
— reported.ly (@reportedly) December 2, 2015
Update 2: Police confirm:
- *POLICE SAY UP TO THREE PEOPLE OPEN FIRE IN CALIF.
- *POLICE SAY UP TO 14 PEOPLE MAY BE DEAD IN CALIF.
- *POLICE SAY UP TO 14 PEOPLE MAY BE WOUNDED
Update 1: The three suspects are believed to be armed with AK-47-type weapons, a local law enforcement official told CNN
Police storming Inland Center earlier...
Looks like @DHSgov Homeland Security is circling the #SanBernardino area. pic.twitter.com/h63V7GXIZQ
— Mr. Green (@Mario_Greenly) December 2, 2015
As we previously noted,
Police are investigating a report of shots fired in San Bernardino. As CBS LA reports, San Bernardino Fire officials are reporting at least 20 victims and 12 reported casualties in a shooting in the 1300 block of South Waterman. Authorities are advising all motorists to stay away from the area around the Inland Regional Center, a center serving people with developmental disabilities in San Bernardino and Riverside counties.
The Inland Regional Center is a sprawling three-story center serving people with developmental disabilities in San Bernardino and Riverside counties. The non-profit private agency, whose site crashed due to traffic due to news of the shooting, employs nearly 700 people and serves more than 30,000 residents with developmental disabilities for ages ranging from infants to seniors 60 years and older, according to the center’s Facebook page.
Investigators were searching the building and have yet to clear it. Police said there were reports of one to three shooters involved.
Marcos Aguilera's wife was in the building when the gunfire erupted. He said a shooter entered the building next to his wife's office and opened fire.
"They locked themselves in her office. They seen bodies on the floor," Aguilera said, adding that his wife saw ambulances taking people out of the building on stretchers.
According to the latest update, police confirm three shooters at large wearing masks, body armor and armed with rifles.
The ATF and the FBI have arrived on the scene of the shooting.
San Bernardino is deploying heavily armed cops to universities, hospitals, and Planned Parenthood.
According to the latest news, the Waterman discount mall in San Bernardino, CA has been evacuated.
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Police looking for 3 white males dressed in military gear. At least 20 injured (and latest reports say 12 dead).
SBFD units responding to reports of 20 victim shooting incident in 1300 block of S. Waterman. SBPD is working to clear the scene.
— San Bernardino Fire (@SBCityFire) December 2, 2015
Hard Closure at Orange Show Rd/ Waterman and Park Center Circle in San Bernardino. AVOID THE AREA POLICE ACTIVITY!
— SB County Sheriff (@sbcountysheriff) December 2, 2015
.@SanBernardinoPD has confirmed an active shooter in the area of Orange Show Rd/ Waterman Ave near Park center. #SBCSD assisting.
— SB County Sheriff (@sbcountysheriff) December 2, 2015
#Breaking Eye witness: A man came in started shooting, she and a group hid inside her office, they saw multiple bodies on the ground.
— Natasha Fatah (@NatashaFatah) December 2, 2015
The scene of the crime
Police presence is building...
#SanBernardino La police recherche 3 tireurs en tenue militaire. Au moins 12 morts pic.twitter.com/X0aomkOqpv
— Breaking3zero (@Breaking3zero) December 2, 2015
#BREAKING: Active shooter on loose in San Bernardino. Reports of 20 victims. https://t.co/jD63swrFzF #kprc2 pic.twitter.com/5KRPj6z6UH
— KPRC 2 Houston (@KPRC2) December 2, 2015
#SanBernardino pic.twitter.com/CSq4SQgtFy
— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) December 2, 2015
BREAKING: Reports for as many as 12 people fatally shot in San Bernardino... https://t.co/UVR343oIRD pic.twitter.com/7CK9LvB5yU
— ABC 7 Chicago (@ABC7Chicago) December 2, 2015
Putting today's shooting in context, there have been 334 days and 351 mass shootings so far this year, not including this one.
And here is Hillary
I refuse to accept this as normal. We must take action to stop gun violence now. -H https://t.co/SkKglwQycb
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) December 2, 2015
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gun rights aren't in the "first amendment" you genius...................yea if we'd had European-style gun control, these guys obviously never ever would have been able to procure the weaponry they have...................duhhhhhhhhhhh
By all means compare the number of mass shootings in Europe to the CALENDER of gun deaths in the US cited in the article above.
You wont of course, your answer will be trite and ill informed and wont address the issue because thats exactly what you do with the issue of gun control.
If we're comparing rates of mass shootings, Europe is the undisputed grand champion and will likely remain so for thousands of years.
You don't get to pretend that several continent-wide wars didn't happen.
Paris is trying hard to catch up. May make it, too!
The first amendment allows idiots like you to post.
Hey Moe! Yeah what a jackass.
Kalifonica has very strict gun control laws, so I believe this story cannot be true. They were not allowed to have guns. This is a fake story. The signs all say No Guns Allowed.
When the gun grabbers come for my guns, they will get the bullets first.
I hear you.
says the european that just wiped the boot prints of 1917 germans off their door step when the 19342 Germans boot stopmed back over them.
All the Europeans with balls left, starting with the Vikings.
They may not be americans doing the executing. Just like Paris - they were not Frenchmen doing the killings.
Shouldn't you be working on your list of portable capital assets to provide the authorities?
Mexico has very strict gun control laws. In fact, there is only one gun store in the entire country and it is run by the army. (I'm not joking!)
But Mexico's firearm murder rate is almost three times larger than in the US.
Do you even have fresh drinking water?
Sticks and stones may break your bones but the first amendment is about the freedom of speech, religion, the press, and assembly dude. Get your shit straight before trying to post smack.
ummmm, equalizer, that would be the second amendment, if your gonna troll at least get your facts straight. I bet you think these dolts are cuddly and cute too. I wonder where you live? It's coming to your town too, so careful treading water bubba
You mean like the French?
Course, it seem there wasn't anyone able to shoot back in the US either so the holier than though stuff is wearing pretty thin.
And it's second amendment.
Chaos? Drive a Krisy Kreme doughnut truck through that neighborhood, while announcing over a bull horn "free doughnuts to law enforcement personel only" followed by "only two dozen jelly doghnuts left.
I was thinking the whole time, man, I wish I had a food truck on site. A year's profit in 4 hours.
Aren't the SWAT vehicles called Bear Claws???
No......Scared Paws dear
A gut-truck and 3 hillbillies willing to work for 2500 scared-to-death cops and take out the gunmen! What a waste of money.
And the bizarrro anomalies start... the center where the shooting occured held regular active shooter drills.... wtf????
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-dram...
might save more lives banning drills rather than guns, dontchaknow
My guess: The idea that a disgruntled employee siad to two buddies including a woman "F**k this I'm outta here and lets come back and smoke these mothers" and that they went along with this, knowing that it would be suicide, is ludicrous.
More likely, highly paid and professional killers went in and did the job, their handlers prove to themselves that they can get what they pay for, the killers (of the same ilk that were used at the Bataclan concert) are further desensitised and slip away quietly back to their normal lives. The 3 in the SUV were part of the exercise around the corner in some way, patsies,, they suddenly find themselves under fire "WTF we were were only supposed to be acting is their first and last reaction." This explains the 4 hour 2 mile drive.
In the meantime a new meme is created. These were ordinary Americans, not terrorists. Be afraid of everyone, if you see something say something.
Didn't work very well.
News just reported that the second body that was pulled out of SUV had on what appeared to be a red bra type item, possibly a woman.
Or a Jenner.
There is SPECULATION by the ABC7 chopper pilot that one of the dead suspects may be a female. This is unconfirmed, but he says he saw the suspect wearing a red bra.
That would certainly be an interesting twist. Could be blood on the shirt, though. Unless it's all lacy...
Here's a photo of the one they pulled from the SUV. Could possibly be a black bra. X-Files worthy spook in gray staning there in the photo as well.
https://i.imgur.com/e7FUVft.png
might have been a lumberjack
Again? Those fucking Canadians.
Attack of the Trans-Genders.................
That would be a cool movie. B-movie definitely but cool nonetheless.
Waiting for the "crisis actor" interviews....
I've seen one. Bad actors. But actors.
"A senior federal official who is monitoring the case said investigators believe one of the shooters left the party after getting into an argument and returned with one or two armed companions."
Quote from LA Times
Pissed off about the pot-luck? Nobody liked the Couscous?
Let's see, I'm at a party, someone ticks me off, so I run home, find buddies, gear up, come up with an attack plan, run back, recon area and implement plan...all in a couple of hours. Don't buy it at this point. More likely the guy was reconning to ensure the primary target was on site before going back and giving the final go to his team, who were already staged and ready to go, according to plan. He might have had a verbal altercation with the main target or someone else, but it wasn't the reason for the killing.
If you don't show up with a secret santa gift to the yankee swap you get thrown out.
I will take it a step further: The primary culprit was a student at the developmentally disabled program. An angry one full of big-pharma. Just a thought.
He didnt like the All-hah in the ak-bar.
If that is true, Moe, then all the talk of terrorists and disarming law abiding people is simply political exploitation of another routine crime in places where community respect has broken down.
Interesting that gun crime is most prevalent in places with the tightest legal controls, and least likely in American places with little or no gun controls. But that is an inconvenient truth for the neo-Bolsheviks and their insolvent central controllers at .gov and central bank level.
Anyone notice that the shotup SUV has the hazard lights on. Cold blooded killers but polite motorists.
Courtesy is always in season - Politenessman.
Yeah...I seen that and wondered about it.
Makes for more Drama
Our imbecilic government needs to focus on jobs at home rather than facilitating terrorists overseas. Employed people with a living wage don't go crazy with rage at strangers. Obama is a disaster.
California (Hollywood) knows how to put on a better show...live...(especially when there is a script, i.e. preplanned)
"The rampage that claimed at least 14 lives in San Bernardino, Calif., isn't today's first mass shooting. Here’s news you probably missed: A gunman in Savannah, Ga., shot four people early Wednesday, killing a woman and injuring three men.
Police haven’t arrested a suspect, said Eunicia Baker, spokesperson for the Savannah Chatham Police Department. They also haven’t released the names of the victims. The local news media barely acknowledged the murder: One local television station covered it in three paragraphs.
And the world spun on.
Then news broke that multiple attackers opened fire at a center for disabled adults in San Bernardino — a center that just hosted its holiday party yesterday."
Fahook Sayeed.
Seafood Yak, Eh?
And "Tayyeep Bin Ardogan", citizen of Qatar, according to police.
From the NYTimes
"Investigators believe there were three gunmen and one of them had worked at the facility and recently had a dispute with fellow employees, according to law enforcement officials. A witness has told police that although the gunmen had their faces covered, one of them sounded and appeared very similar to an employee who had left the facility earlier in the day. “They had their appearances covered but a witness believed it had been someone who worked there,” said one official."
So a disgruntled employee can recruit a couple of buddies to get shot up and die over a grievance at work? Nope. Ain't happening.
This story is going in every direction, and speculation. Body armor worn by the shooters, reported earlier. Doesn't sound like the typical disgruntled employee to me. The m.o. looks more like another sort of private contractor...
Carpe deum, eh...
Unwary ordinary people are being terrorised routinely by active shooter drills, gun toting criminals, and a political class who conspire with oil thieving head choppers in the Middle East.
Keep the Constitution. Keep the guns...yes, indeedy...
I've listened to a whole lot of speculation by experts on the news. I just listened to the latest news conference with the chief of police. Conclusion...they know exactly who these people were and they were Muslims. They don't know whether or not to release that information and they are waiting for higher authorities to tell them how to handle it. Besides that I like the chief but he didn't want to share some information I know he must have.
Whodathunkthat? Some dunecoons working over a few dozen infidels. Durka durka, mu-ham-mud jihad!
arby63: "So a disgruntled employee can recruit a couple of buddies to get shot up and die over a grievance at work? Nope. Ain't happening."
I agree. Sounds pretty fucking lamo to me also.
Like..."Hey Barb.... and Joe.... fuck Elliot over there... lets go out and spend $4000 on body armor and a few AK's tomorrow and smoke that asshole."
(barb and Joe)>>>>>" yea Bernie, sounds like a good plan to me.... let's do it."
No, that's just a sign of a TRUE friend.
The ones that on a moments notice will go on a shooting rampage with you.
The ones that also happens to have a fucking explosive device ready to go for this exact instance.
I'm just sorry, you're unfortunate to have not have friends like these.
Hey, "Friends help you move .... "REAL FRIENDS help you move bodies".
How could this have possibly happened?...California has very strict gun laws!
Especially in the 24½th Century
Isn't that when Duck Dodgers was from?
Begin the suppression of this story starting with CBS, ABC and NBC. And you know why...
Run with it assuming it's some white men. Hide it when it's determined that dunecoons were the perps.
If the suspects have been killed or captured or cornered or something, why have no names or descriptions been released?
Perfect condition passports been found yet?
How about some desktop stationary with the name John McClane?
Or maybe I'm mixing up psyops here.
It is assumed that these 'suspects' were the shooters. There's only one clean fact at the moment: police and military chased down a dark vehicle and killed or injured the occupants.
Because actors never use their names in performances
Rita Katz still working on script re-writes?
If these are Arab terrorists, I blame not only Islamic State but THIS GOVERNMENT (Holder, Lynch-mob, Yellow-man Bo(eh)ner, beady-eyed Ryan, etc.. etc..) for allowing these vipers INTO THIS COUNTRY. This government killed those 14 people, just as sure as whoever it was that actually pulled the trigger. This government is made up of the leeches in power currently in this country.
SEAL the border.
WOW! an audio of a gun battle. Wow! Thats got to be interesting. Not!
I wonder if the perp's AK's had fixed magazines with 10 round capacity, fixed stocks & no flash hiders or pistol grips?
Best. Bourbon. Ever.
I killed a handle of that over the Thanksgiving break!
Try the single barrel
Oh, I have. It made me smarter, faster, stronger, funnier, and way better looking. I've been a fan of Knob for many years! (Perhaps I should rephrase that last sentence...)
ya, I had the same over TG, and man did I feel piss poor the next day. I swear I will not do that again, that is a problem for me, yes I am a sinner too!
In California if you have 10 round magazines then you can have deadly features on your rifle like a pistol grip.
My friend decides to immigrate to US. He must think it is a paradise by watching these clips and the US TV dramas.
"They Who Shall Not Be Named," have made certain that both the US and even Europe now are infiltrated with Third World riff-raff.
Thanks Barbara Lerner Specter.
Thanks George Soros.
When seeing events like this, just think to yourself, "at least we're diverse!"
Workplace violence, obviously...
Don't worry about this shooting the real intention of the traitors who have taken over US government is to come up with a law to seize your guns this is the real agenda behind all these mass shootings. Be ready to fight for your freedom or die like a slave.
I would rather die standing than live one second on a bent knee! Give me Liberty or give me death, there is no other choice!
This is about money. Someone got fucked over and they didn't like it. San Bernardino is one of the poorest cities in the US, and in the 4th year of bankruptcy.
I can see all sorts of motives, but if it were to go after one person or a few people, why do it in such a high profile instance?
Not buying the holiday party argument motive.
Hillary tweeted before an eyewitness tweeted?
Hmmm, the suspect that is dead and bleeding on the ground has his hands cuffed behind his back. Was he cuffed before he was shot? Was he dead and bleeding on the ground and then cuffed? Did the officer read the guy his rights while he was being cuffed? If he was running and shooting at the cops, where is his rifle? Isn't it standard procedure to leave evidence on the ground? If a guy was shot multiple times and running from a vehicle, shouldn't there be a trail of blood?
Doesn't seem to be any blood splatter. Just an unarmed guy laying on a pool of blood with his hands cuffed.
So they shot up a vehicle like Bonnie and Clyde but one guy got away and another was able to run away seemingly uninjured only to drop dead in a pool of blood on the other side of the street?
My god these cops are bad shots. The SUV looks like the boat Tsarnev was able to be pulled from unharmed, other than the throat.
"Officials say gunmen were probably American citizens "not terrorists.""
So Americans can't be terrorists? Good to know. Well, they can be but only if they have brownish skin and have middle eatern ancestry. If they are white or black then nope, no terrorism.
I was under the impression that murder was illegal whether you have a cause or not. Did that change to the point we need new "crimes" to tag people with???? You know what's next, dissidents magically become... that's right TERRORISTS! Refuse to be terrorized. Stop buying the fucking government line and deprogram yourself.
Jesus, we're truly fucked.
Secretary of State Kerry clarified this for us: Unless you have a "rationale"
Once a dunecoon, always a dunecoon. The US.gov cartel's 'immigration' policy is about as effective at weeding out durka durka jihadis as the DHS is at detecting firearms @ the airports.
Well according to Obama and his minions, it is only whites who are terrorists.
Domestic terrorists in America move on to advise the Democratic Party #billayers.
well at least he wan't "home grown"
I’d question the author’s contention of 351 mass shootings in 2015. According to the given graphic I counted 18 by the given definition of 4+ victims including the shooter.
you can be fairly certain that a particular incident in Waco Texas was considered a "mass shooting incident" even though it was the cops who did all the shooting
most of the rest are probably inner-city, black-on-black crimes which is why they have so many in their count and you've heard of so few of them
America's centers for the developmentally delayed are as important to Americans as music halls are to Parisians. IYKWIM.
A retired NYPD Police officer who consults on LibertyFight.com stories has alerted us that the local police scanner had a "BOLO" (Be on the lookout for) "Hispanic or Middle Eastern males." The corporate media has completely ignored this key info. Perhaps it's not politically correct. Our source added: "Active shooting underway. Confirmed by local PD. A police training exercise was ongoing nearby. CHP is describing suspects as "Hispanic or Middle Eastern males" Fled in "Black SUV." 180- 200 shots fired in total. Listening to the CHP dispatch, while watching CNN, gives one a 1st hand lesson in media shaping. The anti-gun meme is already being anchored....."
http://libertyfight.com/2015/san_bernardino_shooters_hispanic_arab_censo...
Cute. During a shooting wounding or killing 30 with suspects on the loose the media went with describing them as 'white' or not at all.
Happens over and over - when race is not identified it means black or latino. Why do they do it?
What idiot thinks its racist to describe a suspect if the suspect is one race but not another?
Oh yeah, the idiot left wing. The Great Erics if the world...
It would run counter to the "ISIS is contained" message from Dear Leader.
Johnny, I will agree with you here. I know we disagree on some things, but aside from those we are on the same team, like it or not.
Said Farouk - only identified 'shooter' so far
so far, so good - not a WASP name, for sure.
Probably terrorism, for sure, gotta go with it - Syrian? URR? (unidentified random raghead), or some other muslim organization preying on the disabled, fergawdsake. NOT one of u$. Oh, gotta go, there is a call now for prayers for the unfortunate victims and against the newest catch phrase from the anti-gunners - GUN VIOLENCE. Heard it on the TV, so it must be true - biggest isue now of our times and there must be a law passed against it. Where is my rug?
/s
Obvious Tea party member
obvious to whom? you...now that's funny right there
I understood the comment as a sarcastic reference to James Holmes, the Colorado movie theater massacre shooter.
There was the name of a 'James Holmes' listed as a member of the Tea Party, and ABC's Brian Ross immediately reported this without waiting to check if it was the same man (it wasn't).
it was a joke
ok, i had a feeling, but...well your good at your sarc...got me
FIRST - A lot of PRAYERS for the families of all of the victims in the San Bernadino incident.
It is inconceivable that any human being - any potential murderer - can walk into a Treatment Center and kill random innocent people. I have zero sympathy for the suspects. And I am very HAPPY that the police brought them down.
As far as the LAPD goes, they started cuffing suspects and leaving them to die .. about the time of the 1997 North Hollywood Shootout. That was when the PD first faced suspects with automatic weapons and bulletproof vests. I have noticed that since that time, during violent crimes, suspects are shot and handcuffed, then left on the ground for a long time to bleed out. The scene is given a "HOT" description, which means that paramedics stay out. So violent offenders lie on the pavement and die from their wounds. I doubt that you will find any PD officer who will admit this, but it seems to be the way that things work. I don't care if the PD did this to the San Bernadino suspects - what mercy did they show to the people inside the building?
Not terrorists. Just some people from the middle east.
soooo, all the conspiracy theorists here who said it was the cia and joooooos, what do you think now? just curious?
Mr. Unix....I think Muslims since law enforcement is withholding information.
I have my suspicions, I heard one name was 'Said'...says it all there for me, plus there was a woman involved. Ya let's bring more of these people to America, maybe they can kill us all....grrrrrrrrrr
I wouldn't trust those names. Saeed was a name that was reported over the police scanner as a potential suspect. It may be him, and the fact that the names haven't been released stinks to high heaven, but I don't like chasing after rumors like that.
When I see a resume from Sayeed Fareek Dunekuhn, I do myself, my family, and my coworkers a favor. I throw that shit in the garbage before it blows up in my face.
Well, Unix.
If you listen to some of the idiots on this site, you'd be led to believe that Mohammed was a Mossad agent. That he and the CIA created Islam way back when because they knew someday, they'd be able to brainwash them to carrying out these terrorist acts to help enable the Police State and the Zionist control of the world in the 21st century.
Now me, personally, I do fear a Police State and I think that is where we are headed unfortunately.
And I like Keven MacDonald's histories of the Jewish influence (attack) on Western Civilization and believe he makes a lot of valid points.
However, I also believe that Islam is a sick, Statist religion that destroys anyone and anything that is not of their religion.
And that they attack and kill all over the world without any influence from the US or Israel or the CIA or any of that crap. They just do it because they are sick, violent fuckers who have nothing else going for them in their lives.
And that they need to be eradicated like the cockroaches they are.
Again don't encourage him, it just clogs the thread. One reply.
Perfect Name and Avatar match btw.
Just spent an hour watching the MSM not tell me who the perps are even though they obviously knew full well who they are, what their cause is. Fucking sick.
Freedom of speech, uh, yeah, well, sorta, but gotta give Odouchebag a few hours to get his narrative together even though it'll be the same narrative he's used umpteen times already. Freedom of speech with a PC time-delay to allow for propaganda from on high.
Yes, they go on and on about regulating or Executive-Ordering the 2nd Amendment despite tens of millions of US citizens who never abuse that God-given right.
But after a century of biased, leftist yellow journalism, not a word on "infringing" on the 1st Amendment to license or regulate these propagandists who would make Goebbels proud,
3 people involved in a workplace issue, able to come together and AGREE on a shooting rampage??? Bullshit! Suck my hairy ass fucking dick Obama, you ISIS loving whore!
And if 3 people really did have a workplace dispute, and came together like that, they deserved to have their asses blown away.
"explosive device" "not terrorist" FUCK YOU CLOWNS.
Plus one from me noble...plus one!
I wish someone would go shoot up the NY Daily News office. Fucking morons.
No way these cats are snackbars. Wouldn't fit 'Bammy's narrative.
He's comin' for Old Betsy.
Well, come on people. Remember when Bush was flapping his jaws about the danger of White anti-government types and getting the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 passed thru Congress.
Everything the Government has done the last 14 years has been systematic and calculated.
It's too early to tell yet, but this one is starting to sound like another possible Government orchestrated terror attack. It says 3 WHITE MALES IN MILITARY GEAR. But the guy's shot could have been patsies. How does anyone know....This one is already sewed up. We'll find out they are part of a larger "homegrown cell". Although the reasons for the attack will never be clear.....just a bunch of white guys wanting to pull off a terror attack I guess.
Since we invaded Iraq, I've been saying they are after two groups: Middle Eastern Muslims, and huge segments of the American population.... Well, here we go..
Bush was just another in a long line of progressives starting with Woodrow Wilson, we don't vote these arsehats in they are selected!
Hate to repeat myself, but I posted this in the wrong place.
I would rather die standing than live one second on a bent knee! Give me Liberty or give me death, there is no other choice!
Then manchurian candidate in the WH is gonna get us all killed!
UNIX...at the end of the day...we are dust...blowing in the wind.
They are going to fix this with a carbon tax.
Farooq Saeed? Fuck you and your 'american citizen' bs. That's a fucking pakistani, with US paperwork!
That's a goddamn MUSLIM, AND A FUCKING TERRORIST!
Sayeed Farouk
-That sounds like a nice Irish boy.
Farouk, isnt that Amish?
I think it's mildly Catholic
Black Southern Jewish Catholic
If alluh akbar was shouted even once were OK. Obama never 'goes for the guns' when his people are involved.
I used to think it was silly to believe he was a muslim until I saw his slip of the tongue..'my deep muslim faith'. Its on YouTube...I thought about that a long time and came to the conclusion that one might incorrectly say many things...but not that. The guy is a muslim. Stephanopolous tried to save him but the words had already come out. Surprisingly they didn't edit it out.
Even if true, it is of no significance..the prez doesn't do shit but give speeches and shake hands...if you have Netflix, watch Black Mirror season 2 last episode...he might as well be a literal cartoon character
But is he Muslim?
You know the mainstream media will have one hell of a time repeating that information.
When your kid is in the water at the beach, are you going to assume that grey fin rising behind him is a playful dolphin?
I think he is a recovering Catholic.
For Fuck's sake.....
Look at his name shithead.
Squid
Farooq Saeed...so just when I was thinking this may have actually been a legit shooting, bam, they whip out the middle eastern name which I am sure they will somehow tie this to cia group isis and this just makes me think this is part of Operation Gladio 2.0.
Going to be great when they turn even the most sane people to want to eliminate innocent Muslims and all this bullshit will make the holocaust look like child's play. What an embarrassment the human species is.
M1A2s in Syria in 3 ... 2 ... 1.
''3 white males' 2 of whom have penises...none of whom are 'like totally white dude'....I guess we were supposed to be relieve they weren't black. Or maybe that was code for..'so don't shoot every black person you see'. -
Bush and the Israelis were the catalyst for these misdeeds.
no, it started with the "Berlin-Baghdad railway"
the British got Kuwait in 1899 to block the German Ottoman railway from Basra to the Gulf, and there's been intrigue in the area ever since as to what Imperial power could control what chunk of the Middle East
"British main opposition to the execution of the Bagdad Railway project was based upon its political aspects, more particularly the menace to Britain's position in Egypt and India. British diplomacy succeeded in preventing the consummation of one cherished German design, namely the extension of the railway from Bassorah to the Persian Gulf."
WWI was fought because of this railway and it's implications.
then the OIL was carved up by the Red line Agreement in 1928
then nationalization of OIL pissing off Big Oil, then Big Oil dirty tricks starting in the 50s (with newly formed CIA) to regain ownership where we are at today (Syria and Iran in their sights)
Bush and the Israelis are chicken feed insignificant players to the nth degree
RE THE FIRST para - so the same act is not terror if Johnny from Burger King does it, but is if a muslim does it?
How in the fuck does that make any sense??
Because Johnny from Burger King is an American (not a naturalized foreigner).
Because Johnny from Burger King is likely operating alone, thus it isn't a conspiracy.
Because Johnny from Burger King isn't a Muslim, or Muslim sympathizer with a last name Farook and an ax to grind against "Crusaders."
Because Johnny from Burger King likely is on psycotropic meds, and didn't plan out his rampage--or planned it out poorly--with no coordination with Raqqa or Riyadh.
Thats why...Johnny from Burger King commited a terrible, criminal act...he didn't make a statement on behalf of terror groups, thus he didn't commit a terrorist act, he's probably just nuts and belongs in a MENTAL INSTITUTION!
Syeed Fucking Farooq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We don't need gun control, we need fucking MUSLIM control and their goddamn supporters AKA LORD PUKE FAGGOT OBAMA!!!
I WILL NOT STAND IDLY BY WATCHING GODDAMN SAND NIGGERS FUCK ME OVER!!
See now you seem like the sort of idiot jabroni who would shoot up a school... Then plead not guilty to terror charges on the grounds you arent an Ay-rab.
Go back to Breitbart.
Faggot.
Ps I am sure danepol, tarabel, dsty, teh finn, falcon flight, etc will soon swoop down, address 'Tyler' and demand an end to the hate.
as danepol loves to say - 'hate speech is not free speech'..
He'll be here any minute now..
Any time...
....
... Rained a lot today, huh?
... anyway, danepol's hate of hate speech is a tiger!
You dont put a leash on a tiger, man.
Those ragheads are murdering us. You may choose to smile at 'em and live next to 'em, be their next decapitation, maybe their stairway to 72-pigdicks heaven. I will vigorously use every means to defend myself and my loved ones from those bloodthirsty ragheads.
why not, they zios are drivin u up bum
Illegal invaders and H1B1 job-takers are the symptoms;
the zionists, soros's, obamas and other political filth running (ruining) the country are the disease.