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14 Dead, 17 Wounded In Mass Shooting; Suspects Reportedly US Citizens (2 Dead, 3rd Detained)
Local TV Live Feed...
Update 13: Several ISIS Twitter accounts are already taking credit for this terrible act... no confirmations.
Update 12: Explosions have been heard during a raid of the Redlands residence of Syed Farook.
DEVELOPING: Explosion reported at suspects home in Redlands. Stay with @pzf for the latest.
— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) December 3, 2015
Update 11: A US citizen named Syed Farook is reported by NBC News to be involved in the shooting (along with his brother).
NBC News now reporting a US citizen named Sayeed Farouk believed to be one of the people involved in the shooting.
— Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) December 3, 2015
Update 10: AP reports, a law enforcement official says a workplace dispute probed as possibility in California shooting. Officials say gunmen were probably American citizens "not terrorists."
NY Daily News has a few thoughts...
Fusillade à #SanBernardino: la une du @NYDailyNews https://t.co/1xc5TwxTDK pic.twitter.com/HokRyq29jg
— Carole Aoun (@caroleaoun) December 3, 2015
Update 9: Police confirm an explosive device was found inside the building where the shooting took place. 2 suspects dead (1 male, 1 female), 3rd person detained after running from SUV shootout scene (unclear if involved in shooting). 1 officer wounded.
#SanBernardino police chief: Third person was seen running from SUV scene, person is detained. Unknown if involved pic.twitter.com/oFniWLpGIu
— BuzzFeed News (@BuzzFeedNews) December 3, 2015
1 male, 1 female suspect dead after #SanBernardino shooting : https://t.co/z2gq7cVtZR pic.twitter.com/xvNoMDgUHZ
— ABC 4 News (@abc4utah) December 3, 2015
#SanBernardino Shooting: Bomb squad continues to investigate possibly-explosive device at Inland Regional Center pic.twitter.com/Hv3O55GTMS
— Intl. Business Times (@IBTimes) December 3, 2015
Update 8: Authorities are serving search warrants at a building in Redlands, where on of the suspects may be originally from.
Authorities are serving search warrants at a building in Redlands, @SereneOnScene reports. #breaking #pursuit LIVE: https://t.co/d0126ZB5CX
— CBS Los Angeles (@CBSLA) December 3, 2015
Update 7: The San Bernardino Police chief Burguan tweets that "suspects are down" and one officer is wounded. Unclear if any are still on the loose.
Suspects are down, one officer wounded. Details still unfolding.
— Chief Jarrod Burguan (@SBPDChief) December 3, 2015
And here is an audio recording of the gun battle which took place earlier:
We just received this AUDIO capturing some of the gun battle sent by a witness on #snapchat. #SanBernardino pic.twitter.com/xE4546XHDs
— Gadi Schwartz (@GadiNBCLA) December 3, 2015
Update 6: Still more conflicting information, this time from the chief of police according to whom while 2 suspects are being "dealt with" (which supposedly means one killed and one down), while one is still possibly at large. The police is currently searching for the third suspect.
UPDATE: Police in #SanBernardino: 2 suspects down after police chase, possibly one outstanding. "still very active situation."
— Breaking News Feed (@pzf) December 3, 2015
MORE: 1 possible suspect still outstanding in #SanBernardino shooting: https://t.co/cbh6uXffkp pic.twitter.com/EHYdlj8qs3
— ABC News (@ABC) December 3, 2015
Update 5: the latest from NBC confirms that while one suspect in custody, the number of suspects shot has grown to two which may account for all three of the original suspects reported at the original crime scene.
BREAKING: 1 suspect in custody, 2 shot in #SanBernardino shooting that killed at least 14 https://t.co/jUael0Kzyk pic.twitter.com/GnwmVplfl6
— NBC News (@NBCNews) December 2, 2015
There is a conflicting report according to which one suspect is still at large and has barricaded in a nearby home.
#BREAKING: One Suspect Still at Large in #SanBernadino
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) December 3, 2015
San Bernardino police: "I believe there is still possibly a suspect outstanding"
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) December 3, 2015
According to a third report, a pipe bomb was recovered from the suspect SUV.
MORE: Law enforcement officials say pipe bomb was recovered from suspects in SUV https://t.co/ZKzS7ojK0f pic.twitter.com/iBopyUorxK
— RT America (@RT_America) December 2, 2015
Update 4: According to CBS, one of the suspects is now down and another one is in custody, while a SWAT team prepares to search the suspect's bullet-ridden SUV
BREAKING: Police say one suspect down, one in custody, @CBSLA reports; SWAT team has yet to approach vehicle. pic.twitter.com/rRb10HFKfi
— CBSN (@CBSNLive) December 2, 2015
UPDATE: Armored shield approaching dark-colored SUV. #breaking #pursuit LIVE: https://t.co/d0126ZB5CX pic.twitter.com/K3ttso3UCz
— CBS Los Angeles (@CBSLA) December 2, 2015
Here's Obama:
Watch: @POTUS speaks to @CBSNews on the shooting in San Bernardino. https://t.co/pA56EzrzUW https://t.co/SO0cE5nfCX
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) December 2, 2015
Update 3: High speed chase underway on freeway and reports of arrests made. This has culminated with a shoot out with the police, in which a black SUV probably belonging to the suspect has been perforated by gunfire with helicopter cameras showing that at least on suspect has been shot while an officer is also down after the suspect ran away.
Heavily shot-up SUV...
Someone is down:
I haven't seen anything like this on Live TV since the Hollywood Bank Shootout. San Bernardino just had a shootout. pic.twitter.com/DoJSnSj9cz
— Hi_I'm_RICHIEEEE (@rizman1) December 2, 2015
Police described the case as "a domestic terrorist type situation" at the moment, and a Bomb Threat Reported at Loma Linda University Medical Center in San Bernadino.
They got somebody #SanBernardino More shots fired! They are calling for EMTS pic.twitter.com/WR7yOtbzFM
— Blake Dearing (@DeletedElite) December 2, 2015
Just north of the 10 freeway, on San Bernardino Ave., there have been shots fired between officers and suspects. pic.twitter.com/KoPJ1JSmbI
— reported.ly (@reportedly) December 2, 2015
Update 2: Police confirm:
- *POLICE SAY UP TO THREE PEOPLE OPEN FIRE IN CALIF.
- *POLICE SAY UP TO 14 PEOPLE MAY BE DEAD IN CALIF.
- *POLICE SAY UP TO 14 PEOPLE MAY BE WOUNDED
Update 1: The three suspects are believed to be armed with AK-47-type weapons, a local law enforcement official told CNN
Police storming Inland Center earlier...
Looks like @DHSgov Homeland Security is circling the #SanBernardino area. pic.twitter.com/h63V7GXIZQ
— Mr. Green (@Mario_Greenly) December 2, 2015
As we previously noted,
Police are investigating a report of shots fired in San Bernardino. As CBS LA reports, San Bernardino Fire officials are reporting at least 20 victims and 12 reported casualties in a shooting in the 1300 block of South Waterman. Authorities are advising all motorists to stay away from the area around the Inland Regional Center, a center serving people with developmental disabilities in San Bernardino and Riverside counties.
The Inland Regional Center is a sprawling three-story center serving people with developmental disabilities in San Bernardino and Riverside counties. The non-profit private agency, whose site crashed due to traffic due to news of the shooting, employs nearly 700 people and serves more than 30,000 residents with developmental disabilities for ages ranging from infants to seniors 60 years and older, according to the center’s Facebook page.
Investigators were searching the building and have yet to clear it. Police said there were reports of one to three shooters involved.
Marcos Aguilera's wife was in the building when the gunfire erupted. He said a shooter entered the building next to his wife's office and opened fire.
"They locked themselves in her office. They seen bodies on the floor," Aguilera said, adding that his wife saw ambulances taking people out of the building on stretchers.
According to the latest update, police confirm three shooters at large wearing masks, body armor and armed with rifles.
The ATF and the FBI have arrived on the scene of the shooting.
San Bernardino is deploying heavily armed cops to universities, hospitals, and Planned Parenthood.
According to the latest news, the Waterman discount mall in San Bernardino, CA has been evacuated.
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Police looking for 3 white males dressed in military gear. At least 20 injured (and latest reports say 12 dead).
SBFD units responding to reports of 20 victim shooting incident in 1300 block of S. Waterman. SBPD is working to clear the scene.
— San Bernardino Fire (@SBCityFire) December 2, 2015
Hard Closure at Orange Show Rd/ Waterman and Park Center Circle in San Bernardino. AVOID THE AREA POLICE ACTIVITY!
— SB County Sheriff (@sbcountysheriff) December 2, 2015
.@SanBernardinoPD has confirmed an active shooter in the area of Orange Show Rd/ Waterman Ave near Park center. #SBCSD assisting.
— SB County Sheriff (@sbcountysheriff) December 2, 2015
#Breaking Eye witness: A man came in started shooting, she and a group hid inside her office, they saw multiple bodies on the ground.
— Natasha Fatah (@NatashaFatah) December 2, 2015
The scene of the crime
Police presence is building...
#SanBernardino La police recherche 3 tireurs en tenue militaire. Au moins 12 morts pic.twitter.com/X0aomkOqpv
— Breaking3zero (@Breaking3zero) December 2, 2015
#BREAKING: Active shooter on loose in San Bernardino. Reports of 20 victims. https://t.co/jD63swrFzF #kprc2 pic.twitter.com/5KRPj6z6UH
— KPRC 2 Houston (@KPRC2) December 2, 2015
#SanBernardino pic.twitter.com/CSq4SQgtFy
— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) December 2, 2015
BREAKING: Reports for as many as 12 people fatally shot in San Bernardino... https://t.co/UVR343oIRD pic.twitter.com/7CK9LvB5yU
— ABC 7 Chicago (@ABC7Chicago) December 2, 2015
Putting today's shooting in context, there have been 334 days and 351 mass shootings so far this year, not including this one.
And here is Hillary
I refuse to accept this as normal. We must take action to stop gun violence now. -H https://t.co/SkKglwQycb
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) December 2, 2015
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Fuck the Daily News - Full Metal Morons.
According to the Daily Beast:
Police quickly mentioned Syed Farook as a possible suspect in their radio communications, which were openly broadcast to the public.
Farook was a business taxes representative for the California State Board of Equalization, according to his LinkedIn profile. He is a 2003 graduate La Sierra High School, and most recently studied finance at California State University Fullerton until 2013.
How'd the police determine that, if none of the witnesses knew who the suspects were?
Why didn't someone pull out their pistol and blow these fuckers away???
Paris rampage was more exciting. This is a real yawn
Yeah but it all went down at the right time for prime tuime early news on the east coast and midwest.
They had been having regular drills for shooters at this facility and supposedly one was today.
funny how all the places having false flags are always having drills. They did lots of drills at thw WTC before the two bombings. Also before those art studenst were at the WTC towers. Probably just doing art work for Larry "pull it" Silverstein.
First they said it was 3 white guys. Now it's looking like Muslims.
Starting to look like another false flag and using the typical Muslim patsies.
Easy for the Guvmt to do: Get 3 of your top psychopathic mercenaries, pay them handsomely to kill people, then have the patsies driving a black SUV, which is then reported as the get away car. Then kill them all before they end up with another Dzhokhar Tsarnaev situation....
+1 - Syrians would be too obvious though, right?
You know I dont know how people can sit and watch fox and cnn or really, cbs, nbc and abc.
I mean the bullshit and lies and spin and agenda - you know less the more you watch.
EVERY shooting in the US is first announced by the MSM as a white-guy shooting until the facts come out. Then it either vanishes or becomes "workplace violence."
This is not exactly a FF event. This is a mind control event to distract from the real story.
MKULTRA at work.
Maybe they just picked a vehicle with a swarthy driver and riddled it with bullets. Then they got the license off the body and got a warrent for the dead man's place.
Seems legit.
So they found all 3 passports at the scene?
seems fake, show me gore
Al Gore laying on the pavement like a beached whale.
They must have been serving pork roast at the party - only way you could get Muslims that worked up. Also being a Christmas party was way over the top. Where are the PC police and SCOTUS.
I'm telling you ese, those Santa Anas will drive you fucking crazy.
I feel remorse for the dead Iraqis and Syrians...
USA to erupt into a mass civil war and chaos, just like they did to other nations, I am sure the zios are working on it...
Mossad.
Perhaps. Something says no to me on this one though.
Imagine what this will do for gun sales, the muslims hoards are coming to rumble, I'm your huckleberry
Just like when the Mormons waiting for the Sept. apocalypse bought out all the fractional silver, I'm seeing lot's of "notify me when available" buttons on online firearm sites...
Tax collector? Fuck him
Well, the MSM sez they're not terrorists. They say they're "white". But that Sayeed sure is a funny name. If I didn't know better I'd think maybe they were Muslims. So going on that hunch...... are they like... the "moderate" terro.....ooops...... muslims like the ones we funded, support, train to fight in the mid east? Or.... are they the really really bad muslims?
Fuck, I am so confused.
I hope Obama continues his support in arming and training the muslims....ya know... the "moderate" head chopping variety in the mid east. I for one would sure feel safer if Barack Hussein Obama (schweet Irish name there) takes all these eeeevil gunz away from everyone in the US and continues to arm, train and support the moderate type of muslins in the mid east.
We need to get Jeh Johnson (mmmm-mmmmuslim Sec of Homey-Land Security and Valerie Jarrett....Husseins mm-mmmm-mmmmuslim senior advisor right on top of this....
I suppose they are "white muslims" in the same way that George Zimmerman was a "white Hispanic."
Light brown is the new white.
Massive drill going on with SWAT very close by, its why they could show up so fast since they were dressed and ready to go.
another falsie
They bomb muslim countries, bring them into the West then set them up as shooters in a false flag.
great evil is afoot...
There is no use and only hazard in .gov trying to go after guns.
There are an estimated 300,000,000 firearms in the USA.
A much more efficient chokehold would be a ban on ammunition sales.
That is the route I think they will take; I "added to my position" today and will do so again as soon as I have the opportunity. I am even buying rounds I am not chambered for - for weapons not yet bought but on my list. I feel like I know where Moonbeam and Chalky and Billary are going to go with this.
Lead is a precious metal for me now.
...and govt buying up inordinate amounts of ammo....
Outlawing private sales. Requiring insurance. Taxation. There are many ways to achieve this.
"workplace violence" - oh, like when that Islamic radical beheaded his colleague in Oklahoma? It seems leaders jump to file these incidents under the most "vanilla" category they can.
Vocativ reports an alleged ISIS adherent tweeted "Three lions made us proud. They are still alive." "Lions' = young ISIS jihadis.
http://www.vocativ.com/.../isis-san-bernardino-mass.../
Too early to be able to tell what's happening, but hopefully we'll get some gritty honesty from some leaders somewhere.
very good statement
why the hell do they have so many here that claim false flag anytime a mmoooslim do what they are trained to do?
Oh, ya, it was Mossad, no Israel. false flag, yadadadadada
Got to be Moooooslims and commies here
Hey we could have the rights to carry guns just like they do in Russia
HA HA
make joke, big joke
have potato
While you are busy with distraction, it is being established the the US is behind the CIA. So continue with your idiotic commentary, for what it is worth...
Reading from the play book, I love how this one ends, always with Americans giving up some more freedom.
Funny how America's best friends, Saudis, Israeli's, Turkey, seem to be the most devoid of humanity, yet they are "our closest friends".
Great article yesterday on ZH, where it displayed a before and after of the nations America and its master Israel have "HELPED". Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Syria...
100's of thousands have does in the Middle East because of our bombing. But as per usual, those lives don't matter, because the Zionist media tells us so.
Only thing you'll get remotely resembling what really happened is here on ZH.
Putin? Maybe a severe case of jock itch caused it. Worked on his brain and drove him nuts. Thus then he is not responsible because of his medical condition. The condition was so bad it made him buy weapons, make bombs and plan the attack all at a moments notice (they now want you to believe).
The police shooting him was a grave mistake. The state contracts with a private company to run the prisons and the state must provide enough inmates to keep the prison full. Several cops may lose their jobs for shooting him. What irritates me is law enforcement new this earlier today and withheld information. I think they had to check with a higher authority to see if they should release the information. The poor Muslims etc. (The Muslim condition).
OK. Don't keep us in suspense. Which one was wearing the red bra? Was it Farook or his brother?
what doesn't make sense is... they drive around in the getaway car for 4 hours just to be stopped???
I smell a mossad set up... doesn't make sense at all.
seems like the guy was framed... mossad did it then sent info on this guy....
Yeh, there's no way a "business taxes representative" would be shooting people. They've got other ways to screw you over.
The story is they went home. He was identified and police went to raid his house, that's when they fled in the vehicle.
Trump looks like a genius, maybe he is?
"Update 13: Several ISIS Twitter accounts are already taking credit for this terrible act... no confirmations."
if so...
ISIS is CIA
they really want Syria
And just this evening ...
Fighter jets seen taking off after 66 Labour MPs help David Cameron achieve majority needed to authorise extending RAF bombing from Iraq to Syria
66 Israel-firsters in the UK 'Labor' party.
Oh what a surprise, Sayeed Farook. Isn't that special. Many of these people sound like they start out as ordinary mild mannered muslims and then some switch gets flipped and they go suicidal jihad bat shit crazy. That's why I've been saying it just isn't going to work, the only solution is to get them out of here.
In a country of well over 300 million people, these mass shootings are pretty rare. I think that deserves a round of applause. The real issue is why does the media always hype these up so much? Is it because they profit so much from ads and views? Imagine if they made as big of a deal about car accidents!!
More proof that we face greater danger from white domestic terrorists than from the religion of peace.
when the FBI is included in the tally, it's a certainty
The treasonous fuckers in the Whitehouse need to be tried for crimes against the people of the USA! Like him or not Trump is our only chance!
Sayeed Farook could have been radicalized by global warming.
I blame the drought.
So these guys are identified as "white" right up to the moment when their names come out and it's obvious they're not.
So they rush to label them US citizens. I think I need to see birth and/or naturalization certificates to believe that one, and preferably non-Hawaiian documents.
Arabs are considered "White" on the census, which I guess gives the system scum an 'out,' by calling them White, even though looking at Farook's name and face one can clearly see is of the camel-kissing persuasion and is NOT European White.
"Suspects Reportedly US Citizens"
lol...workplace violence...lol....white suspects....lol
What's all the fuss? Mass shootings in USA each day... nothing to get worked up about... why all the media coverage? Stop covering these common normative events.
How does a half breed Jewish guy end up being President.
Obama’s white maternal grandparents Stanley& Madelyn Dunham (‘’Gramps’’) moved to Mercer Island, Seattle, Washington state after the 2nd world war. Mercer Island is 7 km long x 2km wide and had a population of roughly 16,800 Jews …. the largest consecration of Jews in Washington state and that of many other states at the time.
In 1960 the ‘’Gramp’s’’ moved to Hawaii were grandma Madelyn worked as the Vice President of Rothschild's ‘’Bank of Hawaii’, while the young 18 year old Ann attended the University of Hawaii where she meet the only African student enrolled at the University called Barack (Obama’s father) They married in 1961 after she became pregnant and then moved to Indonesia where Ann work for Rothschilds owned - World Bank, the Asian Development Bank and Indonesian Bank of Rakyat
She was instrumental in establishing Rothschilds newly created micro credit programs, hence the founder of the largest microfinance program in the world today.Millionsof illiterate farmers lost their land, unable to repay the interest rate on loans @ 20 – 35%. This rate remains the same in 2015. Hence millions of illiterate villagers were forced into cities to beg on the streets after their land was reprocessed and corporatized.
The Bank Rakyat program was one of USAID's most successful projects ever……. until it was repeated in Africa, India and many other 3rd world countries.
How many Farooks work for GOOGLE, FACEBOOK and MSFT with H1B visas?
You knew they weren't white males or we'd have had names and pictures 5 minutes after it started.
We need to bring more Syrian refugees in to this country and we need to disarm law biding citizens to prevent these massacres. So obvious.
I still remember when Tom Brokaw declared Richard Jewell to be the '96 Olympic Games bomber about 14 seconds after it occurred.
So they are MUSLIM right? And Paul Ryan wants to pass his bill to let more in
Fucking idiot. Amazing how its perfectly fine for your sort to blame 1.3 billion human beings for the act of a tiny minority, but you cry and shit your panties if someone even blames a particular jew for, say, burning a family to death because jews from poland by way of the upper east side not only have a right to the land, but a special jew 'spark' that makes them just a but better than the goyim.
Do you reakize, stupid fucking easily trained sheep, that most mass shootins were done by people like you, and that christians and jews have bombed and droned and tortured far, far more muslims than the reverse?
Fox news and the Zio/war lobby loves useful idiots like you.
Stupid bitch.
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=25505
http://palsolidarity.org/2015/10/video-israeli-forces-executing-wounded-...
Always an excuse for israel though, right?
Riiight. I'll just hold my breath for the condemnations of jihadi violence from the sandnigger nation.
Fucking DutchBoy2015 aka Alfred Neumann your cock-sucking Muslim whoring gave you away. Why is it that ZH attracts the likes of you.
YOU CAN'T POST A SINGLE COMMENT THAT IS NOT ABOUT JEWS OR ISRAEL?
SEEK IMMEDIATE HELP
Paul Ryan? Obama, Hillary, Sanders and the whole blue team are pushing this immigration, and you're worried about Paul Ryan. Idiot.
Son of a bitch, I was talking to that Farook guy regarding Sales Taxes just last week!
That motherfucker drove my cab out of La Guardia last week!
you it's fake when they say muslims did it and only gentiles were killed....
pure fake BS...
hey guys, anyone see that bulldozer shield-carrying tank thing on CNN.com right now?
it's the headline pic...
not to diminish the tragedy of today, but...
anyone else think it's craaaazy that local cops have (and spent money on) something like that?!
it wasn't even used today... and how many other local police stations have crazy stuff like that... I'm not even American! just I saw that picture and I thought to myself, wow... why do cops have that...
It looks like an up-armored Bobcat, and yes it was used today when they were searching that Chevy Suburban for bombs.
If you're impressed by that, then you have no idea of the kind of serious military hardware that is possessed by local law enforcement in the USSA.
The Federal gov. gives them this stuff. When Obama declares a national emergency and makes himself president for life, everything will be in place to control the population.
Remember Jade Helm?
They will need that bulldozer to cover the mass graves of the Caucasians they plan to Liquidate.
We'll see who's leaking liquid as they come for me.
They have it because they would expect the Sheeple to revolt when they learn the destruction of America was planned in New York City decades ago by a bunch of Jews and crypto Jews like GHW Bushowitz.
Anybody & everybody who loves America so much , do this :
Dig a trench in Yellow stone
and drive a large truck full of high explosives into it
& blow it
There is a very large volcano hidden below
If awakened , this volcano can destroy most America.
Better still if you can get hold of a small nuclear device That would be best
Gotta hand it to the mooslims, they don't seem to follow the pre-approved script and wind up catching douches like Obama off-guard.
Salary and benefit info for Farook:
http://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?q=Farook
Hey, it includes time off for Prayers and a free prayer rug!
Under 50k/yr salary? Shit.
It looks like Farook was working 2 full time jobs for the State at the same time. Plus which he earned overtime! Is this a great country or what?
"Work place violence". The media talking heads are still clinging to the PC multicultural crap. Hey morons, when 3 highly organized Islamic radicals, with battle rifles and full military kit, jump out of their big black SUV and assault a civilian facility killing 14 and wounding 17, it's not work place violence, it's flipping War. The liberal PC multicultural meme is going to fold against the reality of this situation.
What a religion of peace tolerance:
ISIS pushes gay men head-first off a fourth-story building.
Punishment for being gay is death with ISIS.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3146225/Thrown-deaths-ISIS-barba...
All you liberals want to be tolerant.
Workplace violence - WTF
People always make up pipe bombs and wear assualt clothing to go shoot up their workplace?
Honestly dex, If I wanted to get away with it, absolutely yes.
Body-armor, escape plan, patsy, the whole 9 yards.
if the perps wanted to get away they should have had a second car. park the black {CIA} SUV and drive away in something else. makes me think CIA false flag op wrong
Sad, yet funny how the MSM goes to any length, no matter how absurd, to deny Terrorism.
Workplace Violence my ass.
Like someone else said, you don't get into full Jihad battle-rattle to shoot some asshole at work.
This was ISIS or ISIS sympathizers.
But the "workplace violence" lets the Gay Crusader have an excuse to take your gunz!
***
Next week:
Royters reports 3 US Muslims blew up two separate aircraft in what authorities are calling a "work dispute."
The next week:
Royters reports 5 heavily armed Muslims of US citizenship stormed a lavish hotel in Miami, killing 25 and taking 100 hostages in what authorities are calling a "work issue."
See how it works? Any attack by any Muslim who has gone Jihad can be blamed on "workplace violence," just like the crazy shrink who shot up the army base a while back, screaming "Alan's Snackbar" while he gunned people down. They will go to any length to deny Islamic Terrorism; it does NOT fit the template they need for gun confiscation!
I noticed how every MSM organ was going backwards to deny any terrorist component to the attack, even saying that although the guy had an Islamic name he might be a "white arab and NRA member."
Hey, Bath House: this shit is old. We know what you are doing. It's not going to work, although I suspect you will succeed in destroying the United States.....so, Fuck You.
The guy is an American citizen, graduated from California schools. Jihad, my ASS.
"Griselda Reisinger, a former co-worker of Syed Farook, said Farook worked as a food inspector and flew under the radar at San Bernardino County's relatively small public health department.
“He was very quiet,” said Reisinger, who worked for 11 years as an environmental inspector. “I would say hi and bye, but we never engaged him in conversation. He didn’t say much at all.”
Reisinger said she remembered Farook attending last year's holiday party, held in the same conference room.
She heard from colleagues that the department held a baby shower for Farook and that he recently returned from paternity leave.
Reisinger left the job in May. She said the department was in turmoil, with many workers leaving over the last year because of problems with management."
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-live...
If the government talks they lie. Same for MSM.
If it wasn't for MSM, you wouldn't even know about these shootings, fool, or getting quotes from co-workers.
If you think initial info coming out in these situations is accurate I've got a beach house in Kansas I'll sell reallllly cheap. Latest info on the guy is that he's a tax guy not a food inspector.
Even assuming your information is correct, what's your point? Almost every time we hear of a Muslim outrage we're told that he was 'a normal guy, liked football, etc.'
"Gee, Achmed was a devout Muslim. Went to the local Mormon church each week, loved Bar-B-Q, watched Monday Night Football every week."
Even assuming your information is correct, what's your point? Almost every time we hear of a Muslim outrage we're told that he was 'a normal guy, liked football, etc.'
I wasn't there and I'm no expert on mass shootings, but first it was three white males. Now it is a dead middle eastern male, a dead female, and a mystery person in coustody. Sounds to me like the real shooters are back at Langley and probably boarding a plane soon to go back to Tel-Aviv. The accused are probably patsies. The official story being presented sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me.
Of course, it was the Jews right
So many stoopid people here
A muslim denier is a teroorist supporter
thats you and your like
If you listened to the scanner they referred to Hispanic then 'other'.
The media was claiming all kinds of stuff trying to get ahead of the story.
It wasn't Langley shooters. The scanner the whole time gave all the information on what was happening.
The problem is you were listening to the media and it the scanner. The media was way behind and talking to 'eye-witnesses' who were still cordoned off by the PD and not allowed to talk to anyone.
Gotta dig deeper.
They also detained a car of Arabic females, had a guy in desert camo pants with a long rifle being spotted constantly and eluding them and was the third shooter but dropped off while the SUV went and did a slow roll past their house (which is how they got spotted, randomly by an officer just sitting on a roadblock and saw them), a shooting at the Amazon facility that still wasn't confirmed with an F150, two IEDs, a pipe bomb in the center where the attack took place and they couldn't disarm til the water was shut off to the building, multiple bomb threats, etc.
If you check out the scanner feed you'll find out all kinds of stuff.
It wasn't Langley false flags.
It was something but not that.
I'll go even further.
The third guy they detained was a Hispanic male who was at the scene, walked off and got all nervous acting and they went after. They holed another third guy up in a parking deck. LAX got pissed because the airspace was closed and asked that it reopen and they said no because they had a 'drone' up working. Marshall service picked someone up, unsure who. During the shooti out a black male in a white shirt was running through backyards in the area and they were trying to find him.
Another guy ran from the cops and crashed in the target parking lot and they ruled him unrelated. The officer who was wounded caught a ricochet to the foot and refused medical attention. One officer lost his gun during the shootout and was asking people to find it. Another office lost his cell phone and was asking people to find it. The church had no one in it and was cleared pretty early. They mistakenly putout the home address for the shooters after they cleared their bodies and found IDs, then had to scramble to talk about the home address but no one knew what they were talking about and had to switch channels to not say it publicly again. The shooter in the vehicle was alive and breathing with an AR strapped to their chest, and an officer in a vehicle was asking to take the shot. The bearcat tried to unload the swat team in an exposed area by mistake and got yelled at.
I could go on but if you guys would dig deep, listen to the scanner which is publicly available and now up on YouTube, you'd know all this and not make guesses.
Amazing how many arm-chair anal-ists live in this place.
cnn says police got a 'tip' on the suspects
Female is a Qatari national.
Big Amish expat community in Qatar!
she was seeking revenge for the pipeline through syria
I just turned on the toob. Anything interesting happen today? Oh... it looks like gun control is the topic du jour again. Get your scissors and shelter in place everyone. Daddy Government is here to rescue you and make bad people and weapons go away. Suck your thumb and think happy thoughts in your safe zone now.
It's really strange to see familiar streets associated with this stuff. My Uncle Ray is less than three miles from there.
Remember the Maine, To Hell with Spain!
Sayeed Farook and the woman is Yesima Islam Ik-Tarot-Est. Now aren't those good solid WASP names.
Who would've guessed.
and the thought on everyone's mind "atleast it wasnt a white christian that did it" , because the media/whitehouse would use it as fuel for his white guilt nwo agenda.
The female has been identified as "Yesima Islam Ik-Tarot-Est". Another "US citizen", no doubt. Probably Amish.
Sounds Belgian to me.
sources close to the scene of the crime report the shooters were yellin "ALAN'S SNACKBAR, ALAN'S SNACKBAR"
...who exactly is this Alan, and why are is snacks that good?
If you didn't think this thing was staged, you better now.
So Putin puts out concrete proof that Turkey is selling ISIS oil. The US government is giving ISIS weapons. The PR story isn't going well.
Then during am active shooter drill, three middle eastern people go on a shooting rampage in California and we get word that ISIS is taking credit. If we were really helping ISIS, why would they attack innocent Americans?
So a guy working as a fairly low paid accountant in California somehow has access to assault rifles, body armor, and a near exact match to a government vehicle. Yes a lot of people do drive black Ford Explorers, but that one looked exactly like the unmarked government SUVs I see everyday. This guy is able to go on a shooting spree and the feds didn't know the guy procured these things???? Didn't the feds stop untold terrorist attacks in the US over the past 16 years because of the Patriot Act. But they can't stop or find out about all of these mass shootings before they happen. The NSA records every single electronic communication made.
The government found out I received an $850 reimbursement check I didn't count as income because I never got a 1099 for it, IT WAS A REIMBURSEMENT FOR AN EXPENSE, NOT INCOME.
But a guy that seemingly has no connections and is a US citizen gets assault rifles and body armor in California. If he was given weapons by ISIS I think we have a bigger problem since it would prove the entire system of FBI, CIA, Secret Service, NSA is irrelevant and worthless. Or he was given the weapons by the intelligence community which opens an even bigger can of worms.
They had hundreds of cops, SWAT teams, government agents, etc in the area but it took four hours to find the suspects less than two miles from where the shooting happened???? The suspects stayed in the immediate area and then tried to flee in the car everyone was looking for? A guy smart enough to procure and conceal an arsenal from every facet of law enforcement and government intelligence is too stupid to escape and lay low? It seems like the authorities knew who they were looking for even though the assailants were masked and completely got away. Terrorists don't try to get away, they try to make a statement with their deaths. If they knew who this guy was, then they were watching him. If they were watching him, then how did he get rifles, body armor, and build pipe bombs. Maybe like the Tsarnev's they were working for the CIA and playing "terrorist". Then they decided to make it real.
A blind, deaf, mute, with no sense of smell would say this thing doesn't pass the sniff test.This is just insane.
Says the tinfoil hatted nut-bag. LMAO. Just another mass shooting in the good ole USA. And, of course, the answer is MORE GUNS! GUNS for EVERYONE! Every hot headed nut bag in the USA has a right to carry!
Fuck yeah, I have the right to carry. More guns for everyone. sarcOFF
Guns are just tools, if u ban all guns u still got people full of hate or/and with a weird ideology. What use has it to take away all guns but all the ppl in ur society are still full of hate cause of circumstances.
Guns are just tools, if u ban all guns u still got people full of hate or/and with a weird ideology. What use has it to take away all guns but all the ppl in ur society are still full of hate cause of circumstances.
KOOKOO, KOOKOO, KOOkoo, kookoo, kookoo.........
i always find it interesting how .... the government is potrayed as useless... useless at federal programs, useless at running the economy, useless at running any sort of policy program or socializing a private sector
and yet, in the conspiracies, they're suddenly the most amazing planners lol
I've seen that too. The government can't even get the simplest things right, and yet somehow they are capable of planning and carrying out the most impossibly complex, worldwide conspiracies, which continue over decades.......
And of course these conspiracies of worldwide domination and control would involve hundreds of thousands of people over those decades, and not a single shred of evidence has ever surfaced?
The guys doing this are not 'the government.' They are the Deep State, and they are very effective.
Two different animals.
I was going to avoid comments this morning but wanted to let you know that you are right on the money ........... it is ALL about the Deep State. The Deep state is Machine Learning capable. Every time it "learns" from every crisis and "adapts" to become even more "effective" next time. It is tied into every instant metric. It can at times be ahead and beyond even Langley. It is a young, developing "Matrix". Killing JFK was easy by comparison to 911, but they pulled it off. Mission Accomplished ........ the future is dim.
And while the nuts chase their tales screaming false flag we already know they will use this to take more rights and empower the state. And these days, especially at the Hedge, everything is a false flag even though that is highly unlikely. The amount of people that would have to be involved in such an operation, first responders, residents and of course the the "conspirators" make it extremely unlikely that such an event could take place. Humans cant keep secrets...period. The government knows this and they employ a tactic of disinformation spreading both truth and lies together to confuse. Area 51 and "UFO's" are a good example. Hide the truth in bullshit.
It is pointless to speculate in these situations because the outcome or reaction by the government is what is important. And definitely pointless to speculate wildly. False flag is subterfuge. Keep your eye on the ball.
I've worked for them, I've been involved in their "planning".
When it comes to sociopathy, evil, and murder? - they are actually excellent planners, and everything is going according to plan.
(wake the fuck up)
What about that guy who bombed a federal building and just pulled over and put his hands up?
Didn't that one smell too?
People who know guns say the spent shell casing was for an AK 74 which is some rare model and they thought must be from overseas. There is a pic of it right here.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/02/22/2F00744800000578-3343309-A_...
No one who "knows guns" would say that because it is complete bullshit. The -74 is the close quarters varient of the -47 and uses a smaller, lighter cartridge. It is chambered for the steel jacket 5.45*39mm which is in no way "rare.". Sure, you probably can't pick it up at Walmart or Basspro but any gun shop will have plenty. It is cheaper than 5.56mm especially in bulk. I had an AR chambered in 5.45 a few years ago.
You ZOG morons really aren't the brightest bulbs in the box.
Christianity and Islam seem to have a death dick measuring contest. Religon is a crutch for death, thats all it is. A crutch, who will take me. Is it camel fella with harems galore, or some super levitating unstoppable zombie jew who is really popular in hotel drawers.
Is that bottom line enough for you??
Im not that smart and i still slap the shit out of you without even trying, like a minimalist, to me number wise christians make shit, monkey islam doesnt.
i went to private school, beatitudes and saul or paul or blah blah blah.
The bottom line is christians have a more of a slighty positive influence (real christians) than sand people do.
Arithmetic kids, dont get frightened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_ALU9VSLZU
futurama, td knows
I have had a far more pleasant and peaceful life under christian influence than under an islam influence. Just that simple. Plus dressing a sweety lady under a cloth trash bag is kinda gay.
Good news, more gun sale.
We need an audio version of ZH so I can listen while reloading brass.
Martial Law and Gun Confiscation in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
Our system is falling apart.
The people in charge are full of hubris, madness, and bullshit.
The people on the bottom and in the middle are near their breaking points.
The people on the top better start getting concerned, and then go to ground ASAP.
(or be dead)
This is a muslim attack on innocent people plain and simple.
False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag False Flag !
US foreign policy and BS wars have killed millions since 911, and millions before that... millions of dead people... so when a few Americans die why is it important? Who gives a shit... it's not even newsworthy. People by now should be climatized to death that this should be meaningless. Surely there will be a lot more deaths before the elites (mostly zionists and nutty zealots are done)
Muslims have no power, they have always been led by the great deceivers.
Looks and smells like another hoax. Don't send in your guns just yet....
Nov 13, morning: Obama says lSlS has been "contained".
Nov 13, evening: lSlS attacks Paris.
Nov 19: Sec State John Kerry says al Qaeda has been "neutralized".
Nov 20: West African al Qaeda attacks Mali hotel.
Nov 29: Obama boldly addresses terror by ignoring it and lying about global warming.
Dec 2: MusIim terrorists execute 14 people in San Bernardino.
I know many new parents that are willing to kill multiple people because of a "workplace dispute." Seriously? Islam, Christianity, and whatever religion you can name is violent until it can't be. They are all beliefs that seek supremacy. Power is the monoply of violence. Why is it that the establisment of every indpendent state is precipitated by violence? Why does every rebel group fight with violence? Even Ghandi or MLK approached it the same. They claimed non-violence but were ready to accept folks not being able to feed their children: boycotts are violence by those unable to match the violence of those that controls them. All species, and cultures alike, will do whatever they can to flourish.
and how many do you know that actually did it?
Islam is not like any other religion you know of, and offhandedly equating it to other religions is announcing complete ignorance. Other religions may have violent followers, but the religion itself says don't kill, be good to others, etc. Islam is not like that, in Islam the religion itself says kill, subjugate, terrorize, loot, pillage, with the explicit goal of a permanent global theocratic tyranny. It's the only religion of significant size with no Golden Rule or equivalent - a doctrine of permanent total war.
Most westerners are completely unable to process this kind of evil - there really is nothing similar to compare it to.
"[...] in Islam the religion itself says kill, subjugate, terrorize, loot, pillage, with the explicit goal of a permanent global theocratic tyranny."
I agree with you. Islam is not a religion as we know it, it's a system of tyranny which masquerades as a religion. Wannabe tyrants worked out a long time ago that people can be subjugated to a "religion" much more easily than to a "tyranny". Thus: Enter Islam.
This mass deception of simple people and those full of hatred or envy has served them well.
The Koran has numerous verses which can be contradictory. It depends on how the reader interprets them. I suppose you could say the same to some degree for the Old and New Testaments. But, my study of the Koran seems to me to be very much open to subjective interpretation.
Some Muslims I know are willing to respect the two other Abrahamic Faiths, and Hinduism, etc. Others think eventually everyone will just convert.
Then, there are those who think an AK-47 creates a faster "conversion." I don't know any of those types, which is good, because I would kill them. Before they kill me.
"[...] my study of the Koran"
I'm told that when mesmerizing the Quran it is mandatory to sit on the floor and rock back and forth while repeating each verse monotonously until it sinks in.
Not for me ... :-)
All religions are evil and violent, even the ones you never heard of?
No. Christiantity and Islam are completely different. You need to learn the difference. Or you can look at the two cultures they spawned, one of which you actually live in. Then you can understand the differences.
the jew psyops is "all Muslims are bad, even those who work with you, shop at target for baby car seats and pampers, all"
I think we should ban guns.......from Muslims.
The guy on the stretcher, in the picture ... that guy looks fake - no blood splatter on stretcher or his clothes (uh ... no blood splatter?)
(yeah - that picture looks staged)
If you look carefully at the photos, there is one including an actual medical dummy used in FXs.
Now, maybe they had one on the truck for classes, pulled it off to get to their gear, so it's all good. NOT!
This crisis-actor looking dude on CBS local emphatically describing 2 "scruffy looking men" indicating facial hair. Close enough to see expressions on their faces.... how do you confuse a "scruffy looking" male for a female? Sorry, as usual shit not adding up.
Were they on President Trump's list?
Obama: this was a random act of violence; it has nothing to do with Islam, the religion of peace.
Netanyahu: this was the outcome of Islam's war on western values: it has nothing to do with 'occupation' or home building in the the Jewish homeland.
The liberal left: this was a random act of violence; it has nothing to do with Islam, the religion of peace.
The people who have to live with terrorism everyday of their lives: this was the outcome of Islam's war on western values etc etc
Another shooting? Sorry but no one believes this shit anymore. The first clue is active drill taking place. The boy has cried wolf too many times.
Helo Gentlmen,Greetings.
This Gun 'thing' in USA is a last project for his Highness B.H.OBAMA to accomplish for globalist agenda of NWO before his time up.I often wonder how much mission this guy made for globalist.
Health Care--Done
Gay Right---Done
Destraction of American Image---Done & Still Going
Creation of terrorist grouplike ISIS for better world---Done
Climate Change world gatherings for UN agenda of 2030 --Done & in Progress
Ending War in Iraq/Afgan ad start New Proxy ones--Done & in Progress
Drawn attacks more servilance---Done
Gun Control---In Progress
[The list continues.Readers can add better listings here@ZH]
Not to mention those numerous actions he has taken against the constitution of America.Don't foll for the trap of shooting inocent people dramma.It is staged and consistent at random, so that the already vulnerable people will finally give up their gun rights.That is where everything will be easy for the NWO.It seems this sleepless malice don't stop until it fulfils its goal of gun control.Wel its awkward to see how scientific fear propoganda pump in the main stream media working on us.
Men humanity is trapped big time,everything is geared up and taking place fast.They willn't leave us alone.Luckily some people are waking up to this NWO shit,war,Terrorist, Shooting, Black Life Matter on and on.It sucks, These scum backs are the true terrorist.However we can give them hard time by resisting and exposing.