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California Terror Attack PROVES Mass Spying Doesn’t Keep Us Safe
Top security experts agree that mass surveillance is ineffective … and actually makes us MORE vulnerable to terrorism.
For example, the former head of the NSA’s global intelligence gathering operations – Bill Binney – explained to Washington’s Blog that the mass surveillance INTERFERES with the government’s ability to catch bad guys, and that the government failed to stop 9/11, the Boston Bombing, the Texas shootings and other terror attacks is because it was overwhelmed with data from mass surveillance on Americans.
Binney told Washington’s Blog:
A good deal of the failure is, in my opinion, due to bulk data. So, I am calling all these attacks a result of “Data bulk failure.” Too much data and too many people for the 10-20 thousand analysts to follow. Simple as that. Especially when they make word match pulls (like Google) and get dumps of data selected from close to 4 billion people.
This is the same problem NSA had before 9/11. They had data that could have prevented 9/11 but did not know they had it in their data bases. This back then when the bulk collection was not going on. Now the problem is orders of magnitude greater. Result, it’s harder to succeed.
Expect more of the same from our deluded government that thinks more data improves possibilities of success. All this bulk data collection and storage does give law enforcement a great capability to retroactively analyze anyone they want. But, of course,that data cannot be used in court since it was not acquired with a warrant.
Binney also told us:
I always like to point to the obvious. Look at what is happening in France and Belgium after the attack in Paris. They are going after targeted individuals, who they knew were related to the killers before the attack. And, it’s working!!! So, this is what I have been saying they should do all along.
Do a targeted selection of data from the communications based on known people and their attributes and you can succeed (as now in France and Belgium) instead of the bulk collection on everyone which buries them in data and they fail. After the attack and people die, they do the right thing. This should make it obvious what route to take.
The same is true in California …
CNN reports:
Syed Rizwan Farook -- who along with his wife, Tashfeen Malik, carried out the San Bernardino shooting massacre -- apparently was radicalized and in touch with people being investigated by the FBI for international terrorism, law enforcement officials said Thursday.
Huffington Post notes:
David Bowdich, assistant regional director of the FBI, said Thursday that the couple had made trips to Pakistan and that Malik was in the U.S. on a visa. Although authorities have not yet singled out a motive, a U.S. intelligence official told the Associated Press that Farook had been in touch with extremists on social media accounts, and that the FBI had been monitoring the situation.
If the intelligence and law enforcement agencies had focused their resources on tracking known bad guys - and those they associate with - we could have stopped all of these terror attacks. By instead spying on all Americans, they are spaced out, with no focus on the bad guys ... and so terror attacks will keep on happening on their watch.
After the Paris terror attack, the New York Times correctly pointed out in a scathing editorial that mass surveillance won’t help to prevent terrorism:
As one French counterterrorism expert and former defense official said, this shows that “our intelligence is actually pretty good, but our ability to act on it is limited by the sheer numbers.” In other words, the problem in this case was not a lack of data, but a failure to act on information authorities already had.
In fact, indiscriminate bulk data sweeps have not been useful. In the more than two years since the N.S.A.’s data collection programs became known to the public, the intelligence community has failed to show that the phone program has thwarted a terrorist attack. Yet for years intelligence officials and members of Congress repeatedly misled the public by claiming that it was effective.
Binney and other high-level NSA whistleblowers noted last year:
On December 26, for example, The Wall Street Journal published a lengthy front-page article, quoting NSA’s former Senior Technical Director William Binney (undersigned) and former chief of NSA’s SIGINT Automation Research Center Edward Loomis (undersigned) warning that NSA is drowning in useless data lacking adequate privacy provisions, to the point where it cannot conduct effective terrorist-related surveillance and analysis.
A recently disclosed internal NSA briefing document corroborates the drowning, with the embarrassing admission, in bureaucratize, that NSA collection has been “outpacing” NSA’s ability to ingest, process, and store data – let alone analyze the take.
Indeed, the pro-spying NSA chief and NSA technicians admitted that the NSA was drowning in too much data 3 months BEFORE 9/11:
In an interview, Air Force Lt. Gen. Michael Hayden, the NSA’s director … suggested that access isn’t the problem. Rather, he said, the sheer volume and variety of today’s communications means “there’s simply too much out there, and it’s too hard to understand.”
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“What we got was a blast of digital bits, like a fire hydrant spraying you in the face,” says one former NSA technician with knowledge of the project. “It was the classic needle-in-the-haystack pursuit, except here the haystack starts out huge and grows by the second,” the former technician says. NSA’s computers simply weren’t equipped to sort through so much data flying at them so fast.
And see this.
If more traditional anti-terror efforts had been used, these terror plots would have been stopped.
So why does the NSA collect so much information if it admits that it’s drowning in info?
Postscript: Sadly, our government is not serious about stopping terrorism.
Related:
Top NSA Whistleblower: “Every Time There Is a Terrorist Attack, What We Really Need to Do Is Demand that They CUT the Budgets of All the Intelligence Agencies”
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You should not post articles like this. If you have leared anything - saying xx or yy does not work we should not do it only encourages the believers that MORE is needed - its not working because we have not done is LARGE enough or WIDESPREAD enough.
You have written hundreds of articles - the govt will only use this to prove their own point. They will admit the premise and then call for 10x more funding and will get it.
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In order to make all of America as safe as perhaps...Paris...France...but only during a global warming conference...attended by heads of state & elites...and they surrounded by...armed...military/security personnel :-/
Should be great theater.
Spying by the government on the people is NOT to prevent terrorist attacks - it's to protect the government from the people.
The Deep State walks a knife's edge with these big terror attacks. On one hand the terror attacks provide the Deep State with its raison d'etre. On the other hand there will be a very finely calibrated tipping point at which one too many terror attacks proves the ineffectiveness of the Deep State at its core mission, and if sloppily executed, may even implicate the DS in that which it is supposed to prevent.
Multiple terror attacks too closely spaced together will also take the edge off of the middle class safety fetish, and serve to harden and steel the middle classes against danger. This will also work against the DS agencies and corrode the dominant narratives, which are already in trouble out on the hustings.
It is abundantly clear that the Federal government, principally the Executive branch especially under the Clinton, Bush II and Obama administrations, is a pathological liar. I have no confidence that anything emanating from the Federal government is true. The Main Stream Media, owned by the Big Six Media Monopoly, whose owners owe their lucrative monopoly positions in print, radio & TV broadcast, and cable TV networks to the Federal government, with the quid pro quo that they unquestioningly support Unconstitutional totalitarian government, are pathological liars, too. The Fourth Estate today is nothing but an Unconstitutional branch of the Federal government.
The Federal government illegally maintains a database of everyone who seeks to purchase a firearm through the network of Federal Firearm Licensees to facilitate seizure of firearms from their legal owners to prevent opposition to the totalitarian police state.
"Police (were?/should be?) looking for 3 white males dressed in military gear."
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The Mass-Surveillance State does not exist to prevent terrorist attacks. It exists to gather evidence for future retroactive criminal prosecution of anyone deemed to be a threat to the totalitarian police state.
Hey George ... an eye witness saw the attackers. The witness said there were 3 tall athletic looking people, wearing masks and carrying automatic weapons. They drove away in a Black SUV.
The report by the eye witness was pulled down, but it has been cached.
There is no way that the woman, Malek, could have ever been confused with a tall athletic looking person, male or female, even if she was wearing a mask.
It looks as if we have rogue hit squads running around. Now, they are not only staging fake attacks like Sandy Hook and the Boston Marathon, but maybe even really murdering people.
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-liberal/2015/12/san-bernardino-shooting...
During live coverage immediately following the shooting, KTLA 5 news had a guy on the phone whose wife was in the building. She told him there were THREE shooters.
They expect us to believe the shooters went on a rampage, then just drove to their residence a few miles away and sat there, and the cops followed them when they left and killed them.
Every single person any reporter attempted to talk to was immediately pulled away by cops wearing "probation" uniforms, or they just said "all I heard was gunfire, can't say anymore sorry", as if they had been briefed to keep their mouths shut.
Surveillance cannot stop staged terror because it's staged.
Here is a good question.
http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/12/mass-shooting-300-shot-at-17-w...
Another question, why did none of the 17 die?
Surely mass spying is not to stop things happening. It is to know when things are going to happen, then chose to let them happen [ when useful ] and stop them [ when useful ]?
Nope. THe only thing that protects is deporting the Muslims and keeping them the hell out.
This bizarre mass surveillance doesn't have anything to do with preventing terrorism. Everything is for after the fact - not before. It's to keep tabs on selected Americans and to be used when the government feels it's most advantageous to them. Everyone has something to hide or would perfer it not be disclosed - they can and will use that information should the need arise. Pefect for blackmail but useless for preventing attacks.
Canadian border guards - Ladies and Gentlemen. USA border guards - JABBA THE HUTTS... Is there anything that's fucking right with America? My apologies for the vulgarity-it is a gauge of my frustration...
240,000 DHS employees. Approximately 1000 potential terrorist suspects under investigation by the FBI. That's a 240:1 ratio of pencil pushers to potential terrorists.
Do you feel safer? Bueller? Anyone?
Technically, the dullards at the airports aren't qualified to push pencils, just my fucking buttons.
Didn't think so.
you could park round the clock 24/7/365 surveillance with 4000 plus another 1000 for 'vacations' and time off and still have 235000 left to push pencils. Are we fucked or what?
Boxer says California gun laws prove that gun control keeps us safe.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2015/12/04/barbara-boxer-sensible...
Some one should let her know this incident happened in CALIFORNIA.
Between The ZWO media abusing the crime scene where the asshats lived, and the fact that the ONLY thing the ZWO pols and media are seeing out of all this is more gun laws, is it not obvious to everyone that the muslims are being used here? Willingly, but none the less used to further ZWO plans.
Why? Does she need an excuse for further controls or something?
If I was going to take over a country full of gun-toting rebels, I'd try to surreptitiously disarm as many as possible beforehand too.
This was a workplace argument that got out of hand when a Zionist extremist unintentionally radicalized a Muslim.
You know...like when that postal worker back in the 80's shot up the post office after he got in an argument with a co-worker.
Next thing you know these retarded pundits will claim that the sun rises in the west.
Mass spying has been debunked as an effective way of 'keeping us safe', but we all know that is not the real reason for it...as far as our governments are concerned, we are all potential terrorists!
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/road-to-ww3-time-to...
it was never meant to keep you safe, it was meant to help prioritize you in the governments entitlement programs.the less you contribute the less you get. take note low brow ZH readers, is this the high point of your day?
I am either a tin foi hat cynic or a realist? I said a few days ago,...Russia went mainstream with proof and a false flag distraction was greenlighted to distract.
Russia published and aired evidence. Few hours? San Bernadino took all MSM attention away from any shape or form of what Putin called "investigative journalism". Think there is any path frm A to B?
Greenlight San Bernadino please> Russia is telling some truth here with pictures.... It's a go.
Greenlight the assualt. and bury the evidence. Please to leave a passport
"California Terror Attack PROVES Mass Spying Doesn’t Keep Us Safe"
I strongly agree with you that mass eradication of the islamic cult is required.
Who thought mass spying was about keeping us safe? Silly boy, its about keping the goverment safe from a revolution, not about keeping us safe at all.
Its agovernment jobs program, just like the war on drugs. And obviously no more effective.
John F. Kenndy's Mistake
The whistleblower suggesting that the budget be curtailed is waaaay off, and Mr. Binney likewise is still somewhat clueless.
It has NEVER been about national security, just about the collection of financial intelligence for the super-rich, those who financed the Third Reich, and then founded the American intelligence establishment (and a few European ones as well), and the command and control of the populace.
When President Kennedy fired Allen Dulles, Gen. Charles Cabell (brother of then mayor of Dallas, Earl Cabell, and Richard Bissell (great-uncle of former FBI director, Robert Mueller III), he also fired one-fifth of the employees of the CIA --- AND THAT WAS HIS MISTAKE.
The entire operation should have been shut down!
Just as the NSA (the way it is presently structured, and under the control of the Pentagon, thanks to Reagan back in 1988) and the DIA and the FBI, should all be shut down.
Possibly there is a need for such organizations, but presently they serve no other purpose than being organizations of embezzlement, and I don't mean wasting taxpayers' monies, I mean their main operations are all focused on embezzlement!
If there is such a need, then they should be created anew, and this time not by the grand-nephew of Napoleon (Bureau of Investigation, later to be called the FBI, founded by Joseph Bonaparte), or lackeys of the super-rich.
Take the Chicago Police Department recently: the court ordered the release of the recorded video of the killing of young McDonald, and several hours before its release the Chicago prosecutor charges the cop responsible for it with Murde One!
It took them over a year to do this, and it was only done with the public viewing of that video, and all this time the same copper was with the CPD!
No oversight at the city level, no oversight at the state level, ZERO oversight at the federal level!
This is what we've got --- ABSOLUTE CORRUPTION, and they are surely laughing at those of us law-abiding citizens who pay our taxes!
Unfortunately in Amerika, the bad guys always win --- they might reframe it to make you believe that the honorable ones have won, or occassionally win, but it is all manufactured reality, the bad buys win!
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let us give a moment for Sandy Berger who passed this month..he got a get outta jail card for his loyal service to the Clinton's ...lets remember:
"Former national security adviser Sandy Berger removed classified documents from the National Archives in 2003 and hid them under a construction trailer, the Archives inspector general reported Wednesday. The report was issued more than a year after Berger pleaded guilty and received a criminal sentence for removal of the documents."
one level of survailence for you one for them, one law for you one law for them.
by this standard Hillary emails were just SOP.
If only there was just a leeeetle more surveillance .... a leeeetle more intrusion .... just a fewww more laws.... then none of this would ever have happened.
You and I know full well that "they" will double-down on the Police State.
Well stated beaglebog, well stated.
Remind's me of a friends argument with a contributing editor to that hopeless rag, Esquire Magazine.
This douchey and former WSJ "reporter" claimed that the cause of the global economic meltdown was "too much regulation"!
So he emailed him all the regulations which had been overturned and ended, requesting the editor to explain which were the constricting regulations.
He replied but never answered the question.
My friend kept at him until he quit answering, then called his home (don't ask me how he got his unlisted number) and demanded an answer, and this weenie broke down and cried and admitted over the phone he didn't know, and made up all his answers, etc.
I watch sadly as congressmen and senators and experts call for more security police state on white americans of European ancestry.while ignoring open fucking borders, importing millions yes millions from the third world shit holes like somolia and ME and Africa. using the excuse of rascism all along to justify, strip search of some old white granny, and the invasion of privacy and loss of freedoms of ave white americans-no! of all ave americans of any color who's families have been here decades and have fought and died in our wars.
NWO reptiles are strong in washington dc from halls of CFR to wall st mega international corps..they fear all ave americans because they are doing evil to us all.
The leftard brain: Since the police failed to protect 31 from being killed or wounded by a Muslim fanatic, the obvious solution is to disarm those still living and import more Muslims.
The U.S. needs Muslim control, not gun control.
Muslim control, as in Pest Control.
Seems equal amounts have been coming regardless which prez was in office, although by numerical counts the r-cons are leading.
But there's a reason for this: the greater the "diversity" the least likely the possibility of any power blocs forming, to many differing agendas, etc.
Just like Pew Research Center, which comes out every so often with psychometrically weighted "studies" indicating this or that group is getting more and that or this group is getting less --- the old divide-and-conquer stratagem.
This is the very same Pew Research Center (financed by the oil companies) which back in 2006 claimed the majority of the media were "liberal"!
and to add insult to injury: the SEC in 2008 could not stop naked short sellers, or could not find those who pulled half a trillion outta money market funds in one day then. FED inside info leaks, Emails for the top reptiles go missing like confetti in a wind storm, but they want my private phone and finance records and yours..records always missing when they are .gov's showing some crime..fuck NSA and DC.
The FED, always the FED . . . .
https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/docs/historical/congressional/ush_17yearsecret_1994.pdf
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San Bernardino Shooting: Going Down the Hoax Checklist
http://winteractionables.com/?p=28206
Thanks for that checklist... real eye opener
Here's the fucking bottom line
THE USA.....DOES NOT BOMB AND STRAFE AND FUCK UP THE M.E. - NO TERRORISM
Remember those days?
After TRILLIONS of dollars, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS KILLED.....
we are now LESS safe than before
FAIL...FAIL YOU MOTHERFUCKING CUNTS
CONGRESS, THE PRESIDENCY'S, AND ALL THE CUNTS THAT WAR MONGERED FOR THE LAST 3 DECADES
SPECIAL MENTION OF CUNTS TO
DICK THE PRICK CHENEY
PAUL WOLFOWITZ
HENRY THE CLIT KISSINGER
GEORGE W. FUCKTARD BUSH
(feel free to add to the growing cunt list)
Of course, this rogue's gallery of cunts wants this asinine fucked up New World Order - which is total effluvium.
That really depends on what their goal was, don't you think?
For you, George Washington and ours. Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs
"So it is to the printing press, the recorder of man's deeds, the keeper of his conscience...so man can be what he was meant to be: free and independent."
Yes, we love our place, and heed, but the 'narrow interest of national security' should never take away from us our very reason for being.
Since when mass spying was meant to make anyone safe?
Spying on the masses and all of the other fear-producing shenanigans keep the people off-balance and distracted so that they do not have the will/focus to go after the establishment for the full gamut of crimes.
it is also an open form of intimidation and coercion that keeps the masses in line. and we are free ?
See 6868444
The surveillance, data collection, data mining, dossier construction and profiling is not for the foreigners. It is for the U.S. citizens. Pull head out of your asses. It is meant for future culling of the masses. A 1984 to the tenth power.
Molon labe.