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Chairman of U.S. House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee: “Either [Turkey] Shouldn’t Be in NATO or We Shouldn’t”

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Congressman Dana Rohrabacher - Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Europe, Eurasia, and Emerging Threats - wrote last week:

Not radical Islam, but the Russians have been portrayed to us as the villains in this chapter of history. Yet our government demonstrates a lack of will, incompetence, or both, in confronting the most monstrous of the radical Islamic marauders now spilling vast quantities of innocent blood in the Middle East – as well as in Africa and France.

 

When Russia courageously stepped into the breach we should have been applauding its willingness to confront ISIS. Instead, we continue to denigrate Russians as if they were still the Soviet Union and Putin, not Islamic terrorists, our most vicious enemy.

 

So now we see the travesty of a harsh condemnation of the Russians for introducing air strikes against terrorists who will murder Americans if they get the chance.

 

Yes, Russia does this to protect Syria’s authoritarian Assad regime, which has close ties to Moscow. So what?

 

Assad, like Iraq’s Saddam Hussein, is no threat to the United States or the Western world. If Assad is forced out of power he will eventually be replaced by an Islamic terrorist committed to raining down mayhem on Western countries.

 

Today we witness the spectacle of American decision- makers, in and out of the Obama administration, joining forces with a Turkish regime that grows more supportive of the radical Islamist movement. There is ample evidence of President Erdogan’s complicity in ISIS’s murderous rampage through Syria and Iraq.

 

Yet, we hold our public rebukes for the Russians, who are battling those terrorists. A Russian plane on an anti-terrorist mission did violate Turkish airspace, just as Turkish planes have strayed into Greek airspace hundreds of times over the last year. This overflight was no threat to Turkey. Still, it was shot down, as was a Russian helicopter on the way to rescue the downed Russian pilot.

 

Why do Americans feel compelled to kick Russia in the teeth? Russia’s military is attacking an enemy that would do us harm. Why ignore the hostile pro-terrorist maneuvering of Turkish strongman Erdogan?

 

President Obama is wrong. American politicians who try to sound tough at Russia’s expense in this case are not watching out for the long-term interests of the United States by undermining those fighting our primary enemy, Islamic terrorists.

 

Russia should be applauded. Instead, it is being castigated for doing what our government is unwilling to do to confront the terrorist offensive now butchering innocent human beings from Africa, to the Middle East, to the streets of Paris.

 

If being in NATO means protecting Erdogan in this situation, either he shouldn’t be in NATO or we shouldn’t.

Rohrabacher is actually 100% right on this one ...

Related:

Turkey Tries to Lure NATO Into War Against Russia

 

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Thu, 12/03/2015 - 21:46 | 6873680 numapepi
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Nato has run it's course, it's time to quite it.

 

http://incapp.org/blog/?p=2714

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 21:38 | 6873644 nmewn
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Sooo, ummm, where we at with this Sayeeed FarHook fellow and his Qatari ole lady anyways?

We still in the jihadi "workplace violence" mode around here? Another government employee gone "rogue" perhaps? Isn't there some way we can "pass a law" to prohibit the sale of firearms to government employees?

Jus chekin ;-)

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 21:09 | 6873553 Johnny Horscaulk
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How the Syrian War and Ensuing Exodus were Modeled after the Armenian Genocide

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=25505

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Thu, 12/03/2015 - 19:46 | 6873271 miki
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russia is coming out of poverty, america is entering an era of sorrow and destitution. thank your jews and isreal for that

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 19:36 | 6873242 nmewn
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I bet if Obama went to Cairo and gave another speech he could clear all this madness up!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 20:07 | 6873353 Kayman
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Turkey in the EU and a borderless Europe. Has anyone thought this through ????

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 20:52 | 6873503 nmewn
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Pretty sure Obama did, with a little help from Valerie ;-)

Fri, 12/04/2015 - 00:25 | 6874218 Johnny Horscaulk
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Not soros or obama's many other jewish advisors though, right?

Has it been muslims or jewsad ocating mass immigration to european and european ethnic majority states? Seems to me it was jews not muslims in the us, canada, france, sweden, norway, ireland, austria, and germany along with the idiot left.

Are you for real, man? Lots of Fox News in your diet I bet.

;0*}

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 19:47 | 6873277 miki
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for sure as long as he's facing mecca while sodomizing the mufti

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 21:04 | 6873211 Neochrome
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Turkey is already asking (blackmailing) NATO to pay up for closing the border with Syria, which clearly means that if it's up to Turkey that border will have meaning only in geography books.

Yet EU (bureaucrats) want Turkey in EU, which means that Turkish-Syrian border (border in name only) is going to be a border of EU in Middle East. How do those people get in the office in the first place, because it's not by vote, I know that much?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 19:07 | 6873106 kikk
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Congressman Dana Rohrabacher - Chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Europe, Eurasia, and Emerging Threats - wrote last week:

 

But where was it published ? Did any MSM outlet pick up on it and run the story ?

No.. Bloody Facebook with 157 likes. Wow, so now everybody knows.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:47 | 6872823 thelonegunman
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Clearly Dana Rohrabacher is out of the loop and has not been told the US and UK are supplying ISIL THROUGH Turkey 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 19:48 | 6873281 miki
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the only economy that matters to the neocons is raytheon and such

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:41 | 6872804 Reaper
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NATO is a tool in the hands of neo-cons and a Muslim raised Barack Hussein. Turkey is an accessory to that tool. Blame the users of the tool.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:39 | 6872795 DOT
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This cat must have been talking with Tulsi.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:31 | 6872500 Grandad Grumps
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Who gives NATO its marching orders? The militaries do not direct themselves ... that would be really scarey..

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 15:34 | 6872206 Flying Wombat
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Holy smoke Batman! Erdogan has to go - Finian Cunningham
http://thenewsdoctors.com/?p=554700
Thu, 12/03/2015 - 19:37 | 6873246 Flying Wombat
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Pepe Escobar is always insightful.  Great read:  "How Russia is smashing the Turkish game in Syria."

http://thenewsdoctors.com/?p=554891

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 15:22 | 6872120 uncle_disgusting
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Applause.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:22 | 6871672 gregga777
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The United States should be allied with the Russian Federation to oppose Radical Islam using strategy and tactics that does not create more resentment and more recruits to the terrorist organizations. NATO has outlived its usefulness especially considering the actions of NATO member country Turkey.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 19:50 | 6873285 miki
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the usa will fragment into 5 separate states only 2 will be euro/anglo/saxon

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:14 | 6871623 Junerberno
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Wow- finally someone in DC speaks to truth. The demonization of Putin in the jewmedia was designed in Israel to promote the singular anti-Iran agenda of Likud. The Likud are jewnazis who believe any enemy of their enemy is their friend (after all, we'll just tell the Americans to kill those other guys after they kill the Shia.)

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:22 | 6871306 Quinvarius
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You know who is stupid enough to let Turkey drag NATO into WW3 Jihad?  Obama.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:06 | 6871216 Herdee
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Get rid of that bum and reestablish the Kurdistan borders.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:51 | 6871147 the grateful un...
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don't worry my little neocon ducklings, Turkey will be Turk-exited from Nato, but Montenegro is IN... quick send them the nuclear missiles that will be aimed at Moscow

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:49 | 6871136 ToSoft4Truth
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I've been sayign all along Turkey is a double criss-cross and needs a nuke. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 19:51 | 6873289 miki
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3 nukes, for the father son and holy ghost

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:33 | 6871053 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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NATO is Jihad, but they don't call it that in Fascist Land.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:25 | 6870998 steelhead23
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Rep. Rohrabacher's position on Turkey given his rather hawkish policy pronouncements elsewhere.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Rohrabacher

I think it is important that a conservative Republican is taking this position - which I strongly support.  Perhaps it would be more rational for the U.S. to seek to modify policies of its so-called allies before it attempts to decapitate its enemies.  There'd be less blood.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:37 | 6871353 scraping_by
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While it's dangerous to assume a member of Congress can ever be embarrassed by mendacity, it's hard to deal with the irony of a foreign autocrat acting more in line with the wishes and interests of the vast majority of the American people than our own elected officials.

In defense of democracy, we don't have much of that. Anyone not selected by electronic voting can be bribed into line.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:18 | 6870955 patrickhenry61
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Is ths guy up for re-election or something? He sounds like he's on a campaign stump. I'm sure behind the scenes, he's asking for forgiveness. Will they listen, or will something be done on what he stated? I doubt it VERY MUCH!!!! P.S. Didn't his family make popcorn?

 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:22 | 6870985 BullyBearish
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He can kiss his AIPAC contribution bye-bye

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:11 | 6870900 richsob
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I'm a Marine combat veteran.  I'm a conservative.  And I'm supporting Trump.  Why?  Because he has the skill and intelligence to work with Putin on the ISIS problem.  It scares me to death to think of Hillary wanting to show Putin who can pee the furthest.  Putin, with all his many faults, is basically a decent human being and he's NOT always wrong.  Trump + Putin = A reasonable chance for cooperation.  Putin + Any of the Democrats running = A recipe for disaster.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 19:52 | 6873297 miki
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hillary would just dribble, can you PLEASE name one putin fault

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:35 | 6871379 scraping_by
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Bernie Sanders has an unbroken record of opposing Middle Eastern adventurism. While a civil rights activist might not get along with a KGB officer, they both agree that American bodies shouldn't be thrown into oil state politics.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:41 | 6871801 cheech_wizard
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Bernie Sanders? Are you fucking retarded? Other than sucking at the governmet teat for his entire adult life, can you name a single accomplishment of "Bernie" outside of his political career?

Standard Disclaimer: You remind me of those socialists/communists that always look so damn miserable when handing out their literature extolling the virtues of socialism/communism.

 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 18:32 | 6872964 Bring the Gold
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Remind me what Trump has accomplished that isn't 100% due to being born into EXTREME privilege? Give me a small loan of say $30 million which is what that loan would be today in REAL dollars and watch how I "miraculously" succeed. Trump is a joke and scary as hell. The only Republican I would support is Rand Paul who sadly is not 1/4 the man his father is. The Dems aren't much better, but at least Sanders has a consistent anti-war, anti-spying, pro-civil liberties track record over decades. Hilliary, Trump, Bush and Rubio scare the fuck out of me.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 11:56 | 6870803 silverer
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“Either [Turkey] Shouldn’t Be in NATO or We Shouldn’t”.  Totally agree.  First time in a while somebody in a government position has made a truthful and valid statement.  Thank you, Dana.
Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:18 | 6871648 sidetracksusie
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Exiting the UN first, then leaving NATO, would save us both money and heartache.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:23 | 6870986 rwe2late
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 Actually,

neither Turkey nor the US should be in NATO.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:11 | 6870902 weburke
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Complete theater show.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 11:47 | 6870706 GreatUncle
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Turkey shouldn't be in NATO sure, but it should not be fast tracked into the EU neither if you are going to incarcerate reporters for saying things you don't wany or executing lawyers for representing the other side.

ECHR means nothing if Turkey joins.

And exactly who is Turkey's best friends?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 11:39 | 6870654 gaoptimize
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Check my disqus history.  I've been calling for Turkey to be booted from NATO for years.  The display during the moment of silence at a soccer game for the victims of the Paris shootings should have been the last straw for civilized members of NATO.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 11:56 | 6870802 KnuckleDragger-X
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We should be the ones leaving. It serves no purpose anymore except as a political weapon and Europe is no longer a war torn wreck.....

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 11:47 | 6870705 PrimalScream
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AGREE with you 100%.  What good does it do for the USA to have an "ally" who is completely undependable, and behaves like King Rat?  Who needs these kinds of 'friends'.  Turkey needs to be out!

And the behavior at the soccer game after the Paris attack was unforgiveable.  Again, I agree with you totally. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 11:26 | 6870587 TheBeatles
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Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:28 | 6871712 HenryHall
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Thu, 12/03/2015 - 11:14 | 6870513 joego1
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Islam is a disgusting cult, a scourge on the world. When the west finally wakes up to the fact that this is all about survival it might be too late.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 21:51 | 6873693 Johnny Horscaulk
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'The dangers of falling into Anti-Semitism are very real. Historically, Anti-Semitism has been a major problem, and it continues to be in some parts of the world today. One of the primary ways in which Anti-Semites unfairly targeted Jews was to vilify Halakha, digging up intolerant views in the rabbinical tradition to smear Judaism with.

But herein lies an irony: many Zionist Jews are now joining Anti-Muslim Christians in vilifying the Islamic tradition in a very similar way. Once Halakha was the target of bigots; today, it is Sharia. Rabbi Eliyahu Stern has written an excellent article about this topic, entitled Don’t Fear Islamic Law in America.

I will be applying the same standards our opponents apply to the Islamic tradition to the Jewish one, to show that Judaism is equally vulnerable to such criticisms. It is hoped that this exercise will encourage people of Judeo-Christian background to be more hesitant in vilifying and targeting Islam. This is purely an exercise in thought, a what if scenario (what if we applied the same standards to your religion as you do onto others?) designed to be the antidote to religious and cultural arrogance.

By clarifying that this constitutes an “exercise in thought” one should know that I am not saying Judaism is XYZ because of ABC, but rather simply that if you insist on arguing that Islam is XYZ due to ABC then–based on your own logic–Judaism and Christianity are also XYZ because they too have ABC. This is a what if? and an if-then argument.'

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