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General Wesley Clark: ISIS Serves Interests Of US Allies Turkey And Saudi Arabia
Submitted by Claire Bernish via TheAntiMedia.org,
"Let’s be very clear: ISIS is not just a terrorist organization; it is a Sunni terrorist organization. That means it blocks and targets Shi’a. And that means it’s serving the interests of Turkey and Saudi Arabia - even as it poses a threat to them." - Retired Gen. Wesley Clark
Former NATO Supreme Allied Commander General and retired U.S. General Wesley Clark revealed in an interview with CNN that the Islamic State (Daesh, ISIS) remains geostrategically imperative to Sunni nations, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, as they clamor for strategic power over Shi’a nations, Syria, Iraq, and Iran. He explained that “neither Turkey nor Saudi Arabia want an Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon ‘bridge’ that isolates Turkey, and cuts Saudi Arabia off.”
When asked by the CNN host if Russian President Vladimir Putin’s suggestion that Turkey was “aiding ISIS” had any validity, he responded:
“All along there’s always been the idea that Turkey was supporting ISIS in some way. We know they’ve funneled people going through Turkey to ISIS. Someone’s buying that oil that ISIS is selling; it’s going through somewhere - it looks to me like it’s probably going through Turkey - but the Turks haven’t acknowledged that.”
After explaining this virtual gateway for the Islamic State’s oil, Clark was quick to emphasize that Putin’s allegations about Turkey’s support for terrorist organization, ISIS, aren’t without their own hypocrisy. Russia, of course, has been upholding President Bashar al-Assad’s administration in Syria against rebel groups backed by the U.S. — despite continuing denials by U.S. officials that that particular theater is its primary interest in the region.
He said, “Putin would like to dirty Turkey by saying it’s supporting terrorists, but the truth is that he’s supporting terrorists. I mean, the tactics used by the Assad regime have been terror tactics. They’re dropping barrel bombs on innocent civilians.”
Clark concludes the interview with a statement that encapsulates growing sentiment of many Westerners who’ve grown war-weary with such geopolitical wrangling overseas:
“There’s no good guy in this - this is a power struggle for the future of the Middle East.”
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The ONLY regime change the USA should be concerned with in that area is Saudi Arabia!
sgtd, i upvoted you But i think the only regime change the ussa ought to be concerned with (other than its own) is israel.
I disagree, Just ask for all Israel to return all the military hardware provided by the US and if they don't return it, nuke Tel Aviv with 24 hours warning. Then try the entire leadership of the country and military for war crimes. Call it payback for the USS Liberty with interest. The Saudi Royal family should all be tried and when found guilty hung from the square then let the people have free elections.
This group is trying to keep track of civilian casualties in Syria:
Syrian Network For Human Rights - Syrian Network For Human Rights
http://sn4hr.org/
Make of it what you will...
And this:
Raqqa is Being Slaughtered Silently ·
this is the fucktard that wanted to start a 3rd wwar in kosovo...shows where his career ended
General Jack D. Ripper sounded a lot more sane than this guy.
What do you mean "sounded"?
ROFLMAO.
It must be something in the water.
GEN CLARK is PURE NEOCON VOMIT.
He seems like a "truth teller", but the truth is he is a "margin setter" - "go this far, but no further" in your thinking.
He is a douche bag as far as I'm concerned.
Well said.
Ok so the point is ... Obama knows absolutely nothing about whats going on, and understands even less.... but he keeps chirping shiite from the teleprompted lecturns ... and Media acts like what he says is important.
Huge actual power vacuum in DC. Kerry, Rice, Obnama, Hillary, etc... all clueless media hounds.
It's amazing how these individuals that served "privilaged" roles for their country, have defected to the side of HONESTY!
Wesley Clark is more of a JFK democrat. I commend him for having the cajones to come forward.
Better late then NEVER?
Jeb Bush, is a marionette' clown frankenstein douche!
He said, she said......Booom WW3......Get it!
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/road-to-ww3-time-to...
Saudi Arabia will join NATO next.
I realize you just got out of "rehab" Jim... Saudi Arabia, owns the CL market, [light sweet crude]
Super cheap extraction costs, lack of demand, proven reserves. I see some frustration in the Saudi Hierarchy.
Aspen ‘extreme’ plan ends with felony charge | AspenTimes.com
He, who owns the gold???
Let's discuss another scenario from the "other side".
The "American Public" pays for diplomatic missions/trips like this?
Michelle Obama Gives Zero F*cks About What the Saudis Wanted Her To Wear - The Daily Banter
See? Even the worst people can occasionally do something nice.
Way to go, Michelle Antoinette, we've got an extra lobster for you.
Are you a woman?
The Women I know, have different" self assured" demeanor.
It's okay if you like women tarabel. Women, are very sexual individuals.
You should speak with Angela Merkel.
So Michelle Obama sticks her thumb in the eye of the Saudis and wears what she wants to wear and they can go fuck thesmelves if they don't like it.
Meanwhile, Barack is bowing and scraping in front of them.
GOOD FOR HER. Might be the only decent thing that either one of them have ever done for the country. Maybe just this once and probably for selfish reasons of her own, but GOOD FOR HER.
The enemy of my enemy's, enemy's, enemy's are my frenemies........
In the Middle East it goes like this:
1. The eneny of my friend is my enemy.
2. The friend of my enemy is my enemy.
3. The friend of my friend is my enemy.
4. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.
5. My friend is my enemy.
"They are dropping Barrel Bombs on innocent civilians"
This is the fall back talking point. Yet evidence of barrel bombing civilians is hard to come by, expect for the odd staged youtbe fake bullshit video. Besides. The USA uses bombs that would make you wish a barrel bomb had fallen on you! Israel cluster bombed Lebanon and Gaza, yet nobody gave a shit! US used banned weapons on Iraq to conquer it in an illegal inavsion, yet nobody gave a shit. If you hear "barrel Bomb" assume the words are comign from a liar. Because they are.
Turkey is NATO, NATO is using Turkey to do it's dirty work. If Turkey does it, NATO is behind it. You can't say one is different from the other.
NATO is shitting itself over Russia going to to defend Syria, and that is just what they are doing. Prevent a NATO take over. And now that S-400 is in place, over 100 aircraft more are on the way and a second air base is being opened to cover the south of Syria, NATO is fucked. To conquer Syria, NATO will have to start world war III. This is what is pissing them off no end.
And Clark failed to mention Kiev "terrorizing innocent civilians" in E Ukraine with all kinds of ordinance as well...supplied and supported by US and NATO.
But to those in the MIC...that's"clearly not the same".
nor the white phosphorus used by the USA on the Iraqi city of Fallujah, when they levelled it, because 4 blackwater mercenaries had been kiled by the local Sunnis.
A whole city subjected to murderous summary reprisal, using horrific bannned weapons, in revenge for four soldiers killed.
And with deluded moral superiority, they now hurl accusations of barrel bombs at Assad?
And just to add, we can pin stupidity on US policy as well as genocide. US spokesmen have lamented the loss of Iraq to the Shias, but what did the US military do to the Iraqi minority Sunni? They bombed them, murdered them, flame-throwered them, used banned weapons on them, beat them in Abu Graib, forced them to watch their children suffer or die because of all the chaos caused by war (no water, no electricty, no medicine, no order....)
And if ISIS is actually real, and comprised of Sunni extremists, then gee, what do you reckon; they hate us for our freedoms?
Google what was done just to Fallujah alone, and weep.
http://smoloko.com/?p=7112
I think that General Wesley Clark has become radicalized. Someone
should notify Homeland Security.
He retardicalized, if even that is a word.
You're obviously NORK, CIA,NSA,MI-6,KGB.
Youre' definitely NOT Mossad. lol
"I think that General Wesley Clark has become radicalized. Someone
should notify Homeland Security."
Kinda pointless to do so as Jeh Johnson, head of Homey-land Security is already a radicalized muslim.
Barrel Bomb (Wikipedia):
A barrel bomb is an improvised unguided bomb, sometimes described as a flying IED (improvised explosive device). They are typically made from a large barrel-shaped metal container that has been filled with high explosives, with possibly shrapnel, oil or chemicals, and then dropped from a helicopter or airplane.[1] Due to the large amount of explosives (up 1,000 kilograms), their poor accuracy and indiscriminate use in populated civilian areas (including refugee camps), the resulting detonations have been devastating.[2][3][4] Critics have characterised them as weapons of terror and illegal under international conventions.[5]
The earliest known use of barrel bombs in their current form was by the Israeli military in 1948. The second known use of barrel bombs was by the US military in Vietnam in the late 1960s.
Clark throw cluster bombs over Yugoslavia. These are guided missiles that breakup in unguided little bombs of which some do not explode and act like mines, killing later.
Clark bombed civilian infrastructure in YU such as factories, hospitals, commuter trains, open markets and random houses in random villages.
+100. The us has done far worse for decades, and not against foreign mercenaries being funded and armed by its enemies.
We rearmed Israel during its genocidal assault on gaza when all the world saw they were bombing schools and hospitals (and yes one un school had rockets in it, the rockets that killed all of 3 people and fired after the idf killed 6 palestinians ) and we are helping the saudis bomb hospitals and the kiev putsch/puppet regime murder ethnic russians, hoping to provoke a russisn response.
The us government has zero moral authority and has become the leading sponsor of terrorism in the world.
Anything this Clinton puppet says must be taken with a huge grain of salt. He's a whore peddling half truths. He'll probably come out with more damning truth as the Obama-Clinton divide worsens. You'll notice he held back on condemning the whole "Assad must go" line, which the Clintons and their backers still insist upon, as well as the establishment Republicans for that matter. He attempts to make the case that supporting Assad is equal to supporting ISIS, when it's more like supporting Saudi Arabia or any of the other brutal dictatorships of the region. Syria and Russia are strategic allies and their relationship is no worse than many of ours (US). Sure Putin's not a "good guy" but in this case he's the "less bad guy".
Amazing / Clark, who is Jewish, leaves out Israel, the Yinon and PNAC plans, and the small matters of Golani oil and Leviathan gas.
The Zionist Plan for the Middle East, also known as the Yinon Plan, is an Israeli strategic plan to ensure Israeli regional superiority. It insists and stipulates that Israel must reconfigure its geo-political environment through the balkanization of the surrounding Arab states into smaller and weaker states.
http://leaksource.info/2015/01/17/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-ir...
The Syrian Holocaust: A Preplanned Genocide And Forced Exodus
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=25505
The Doctrine of “Superior People”
The Bond between Israel and World Zionism
http://dissidentvoice.org/2015/09/the-doctrine-of-superior-people/
US Caught Faking It in Syria
by Thomas Harrington, October 12, 2015
The great danger of faking your ability to do something in the public square is that someone with an actual desire to the job you are pretending to do might come along and show you up.
This is what has just happened to the US in Syria with the entrance of Russia into the fight against ISIL.
And as is generally the case with posers caught with their pants down, the US policy elites are not happy about it.
You see, the US strategic goal in Syria is not as your faithful mainstream media servants, led by that redoubtable channeler of Neo-Con smokescreens Michael Gordon, might have you believe of saving the Syrian people from the ravages of the long-standing Assad dictatorship. Rather, the goal was to heighten the level of internecine conflict in that country to the point where it will not be able to serve as a bulwark against Israeli regional hegemony for at least another generation.
How do we know? Because important protagonists in the Israelo-American policy planning elite have advertised the fact with a surprising degree of clarity in documents and public statements issued over the last several decades.
The key here is learning to listen to what our cultural training has not prepared us to hear.
In 1982, as the Likud Party (which is to say, the institutional incarnation of the Revisionist Zionist belief, first articulated by Jabotinsky in the ”Iron Wall” that the only way to deal with “the Arabs” in and around Israel was through unrelenting force and the inducement of cultural fragmentation) was consolidating its hold on the foreign policy establishment of Israel, a journalist named Oded Yinon, who had formerly worked at the Israeli Foreign Ministry, published an article in which he outlined the strategic approach his country needed to take in the coming years.
What follows are some excerpts from Israel Shahak’s English translation of that text:
“Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precedent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian Peninsula and is already following that track. The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unique areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target. Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon….”
“Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel’s targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi’ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north.”
“If Egypt falls apart, countries like Libya, Sudan, or even the more distant states will not continue to exist in their present form and will join the downfall and dissolution of Egypt.
“There is no chance that Jordan will continue to exist in its present structure for a long time, and Israel’s policy, both in war and in peace, ought to be directed at the liquidation of Jordan under the present regime and the transfer of power to the Palestinian majority.”
Yinon’s vision reappeared in the now infamous “Clean Break” document from 1996, authored by a consortium of US and Israeli "strategic thinkers" that included Richard Perle, Douglas Feith and David and Meyrav Wurmser, which was meant to serve as a foreign policy blueprint for the first administration of Benjamin Netanyahu.
The text is nothing if not obsessive regarding the need to seriously debilitate Syria’s ability to act in any way is a pole of regional influence in the in the area .
“Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq – an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right – as a means of foiling Syria’s regional ambitions.”
“Most important, it is understandable that Israel has an interest supporting diplomatically, militarily and operationally Turkey’s and Jordan’s actions against Syria, such as securing tribal alliances with Arab tribes that cross into Syrian territory and are hostile to the Syrian ruling elite.”
And as Dan Sanchez has recently shown, David Wurmser went into even greater detail about the need to balkanize Israel’s northeastern neighbor in articles published in approximately the same time period, talking quite openly in one essay about “expediting the chaotic collapse“ of Baathist Syria.
Then there is Wesley Clark’s famous interview, given in 2007, in which he revealed the true strategic aims of those running US foreign policy in the wake of the September 11th attacks. In it, he tells of a conversation he had at that time with a Pentagon official who admitted that the real plan was “to attack and destroy the governments in seven countries in five years”.
Those countries, according to Clark, were: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iraq. In the same speech, he explicitly ties the hatching of the plan to Richard Perle, head of the cadre of people who wrote in the “Clean Break” document of the paramount importance of putting Israel in position to “shape its strategic environment”.
On September 5th, 2013, Alon Pinkas, the former Israeli Consul General in New York and well-connected member of Tel Aviv’s conservative policy elite described the Syrian conflict in the following terms in the New York Times:
“This is a playoff situation in which you need both teams to lose, but at least you don’t want one to win – we’ll settle for a tie,….Let them both bleed, hemorrhage to death: that’s the strategic thinking here. As long as this lingers, there’s no real threat from Syria.”
I don’t think it can get much clearer than that. The US-Israeli plan in Syria has never been about helping anyone in that country, but rather insuring its effective dismemberment so as to further the perceived “strategic interests” of the Jewish state.
As Tomás Alcoverro, the longtime Mideast correspondent of Barcelona’s La Vanguardia newspaper wrote on 9 October 2015, in reference to the combined Russian and Syrian government attacks carried out during the previous week: “If this joint offensive is successful, the US plan for continuing the war of attrition until both sides are exhausted will lie in ruins”.
Yes, the US and Israelis, have been “faking it” in Syria for a good long time now. And Putin has come along and called their bluff.
And they are not happy about it. Which is why the ongoing campaign of demonization against the Russian leader is being ratcheted up – if that’s possible – to still higher levels of intelligence-insulting hyperbole.
http://original.antiwar.com/thomas-harrington/2015/10/11/the-problem-wit...
jhorsecaulk, that was a fascinating, hard but nessary, read after clark. thank you. & thank you for your many links. stay safe.
Amazing / Clark, who is (not) Jewish...
Still not Jewish.
still Jewish
Clark's father's family was Jewish; his paternal great-grandfather immigrated to the United States from Belarus in response to the Pale of Settlement and anti-Semitic violence from Russian pogroms. Clark's grandfather, Jacob Kanne, graduated from the Chicago-Kent College of Law and served in the U.S. Naval Reserve as an ensign during World War I, although he was never assigned to a combat mission. Kanne, living in Chicago, became involved with ward politicsin the 1920s as a prosecutor and served in local offices. He served as a delegate to the 1932 Democratic National Convention that nominated Franklin D. Roosevelt as the party's presidential candidate[11] (though his name does not appear on the published roll of convention delegates). His mother was of English ancestry and was a Methodist. [12]
Saying it twice doesn't make you correct.
He's not Jewish.
DOUBLE HINT: Read the last sentence of what you wrote and then you can apologize.
So what is he then pray tell, a methodist? Your apology is accepted in advance.
Well, according to the article you yourself excerpted, he IS (present tense) a Catholic.
But he has NEVER been Jewish.
Okay, I'll make it easy on you since two hints aren't enough.
Judaism is matrilineal.
A turd is still a turd by any name you want to call it.
But that's exactly what we're talking about.
He's not Jewish, is he?
And it seems to me that he's going a long way towards agreeing with your own viewpoint of the situation. He just admitted that ISIS is a controlled entity doing the work of its coalition masters.
Everybody knows that to be Jewish your mother has to be Jewish.
What was the point of beating a dead Jewish mother?
20 replies. really tarabel.
Quite apparently, everybody does not know that.
Witness the fact that somebody anonymous downvotes you for admitting the simple truth.
You should avoid conversing with people who are unaware of Jewish trivia.
Free country, bid.
I wouldn't be in favor of forcing people to carry signs explaining what they do and do not know.
I learn a lot from reading the comments around here-- far more, most times, than I do from slogging through the thinly-disguised pay-to-play stuff that often serves as the fount of discussion.
No doubt I irritate people, particularly when I spit in the soup, as the Kaiser used to put it.
But why should the subject come up regardless? Clark is a boob and a sell-out. Although, curiously enough, if one were to scrub his name out of the article, most ZH readers would be in full agreement as to what he actually said-- viz that ISIS is a western front group.
That's good enough for me. For others, everything has to be taken as evidence of some unified cosmic plot that always goes back to one spot on the planet as surely as a compass needle points north. Why can't he just be a guy who, truth be told, is starting to veer off the PC reservation. Rather than tarring him as a creep and a fool, you'd think that people might welcome a few cracks in the monolithic facade which they imagine confronts them.
I'm in complete agreement with you about Clark. As a mattter of fact when he left NATO, before the magnifying glass of google, I was quite impressed with him.
A decade or two later he was occasionally saying some outrageous stuff. Maybe Oldtimer's disease. The thought of which is an ice pick in the hearts of all of us.
You're so wise I wonder whether you remember the tumult in your house 8 days after you were born. And the strange bearded, old man in a dark suit with the shiny knife in a scabbard hovering menacingly over you.
Just curious.
No recollection of such a thing, but then I think Lutherans have it done by the doctor.
Given the gigantic mess that the world is becoming as it falls away from God, however, I'm glad that whoever did it did it. I'll stick with the old flag in this storm and remain consecrated to the God of my ancestors. Strangely enough, it doesn't make me lust for money or want to wipe out Palestinians or invade Russia or anything.
I'd like to see all men be brothers. So long as the current crop of totalitarians squat on their stolen thrones everywhere, it will not and cannot happen. But the day is coming, future amigo, when those who make it out of the furnace will have something huge in common that outweighs all of their petty antebellum differences. The sooner, the better, so far as I am concerned, since I have no desire to hate anybody or punish anybody and the far side of the river is where that sentiment lives.
To borrow a line from Patrick Henry: "The war is inevitable and let it come. I repeat, sir, let it come."
Okay, that was two lines. Did you see that Green Bay-Detroit game? Unbelievable finish on the play after the game ended.
What is it like to be so absolutely and pervasively dishonest?
To steal a phrase from a great man - 'have you no shame?'
I think you know this but I'll say it anyway:
I see you for what you are.
You are Grima Wormtongue
Tarabel,
"I'm glad that whoever did it did it. I'll stick with the old flag in this storm and remain consecrated to the God of my ancestors."
Are you fucking seriously proud to have your genitals mutilated?
I'm not sure you'll ever see all men be brothers, but if you listen to the music Beethoven set to the Schiller poem "Ode an die Freude" (Alle Menschen Werden Brueder) you will hear what it sounds like.
For your information -- it must have been in the 70's -- The Israeli Supreme Court ruled that a Jew was anyone who said he was a Jew.
The government corrected that interpretation tout suite.
downvote == a Jew whose mother was beaten to death.
Since I never downvote, I can only speculate as to what part of it they didn't like. Agreeing with me, even in the slightest, is probably more of the sin you have dared to commit, you heretic, you.
I'd much rather converse with a learned Gentile than with a learned Jew.
You can't get a word in edgewise with the learned Jew
Yeah and catholics can never be divorced by church law.
But they get divorced civilly at the same rate as everyone else and consider themselves divorced and legally they are.
Just because the rabbis decided to say you arent a jew if your mother was not a racisl jew (she doesnt need to be religious thats not part of it at all) doesnt mean that the jewish fathers dna disappears.
This is one of the more stupid arguments Ive read. Clearly hews consider themselves a race. The "right" to "return" is premised on it. Circumcidion and 'chosenness' is a racislist/racist ontology. Just because clark is not considered Jewish by the opinions of racist judahites 2000 years sgo dirsnt mean that all of a sudden you are half French and half nothing for fucks sake.
The curious thing is Tarabel ignoring every other part of a long comment and hyperfocusing on something that, really, doesnt even matter.
Clarks dad is jewish so that might indicate why he, as someone eho is 50% jewish ethnically, might want to be a gatekeeper for zionistsn. Only he knows.
Of course he did not mention that the people pushing for war on 5 countries in 7 years in the pentagon were largrly zionist jews with ties to israel like perle feith and the wurmsers, either. But - he at least mentioned the premeditated nature of these needless wars of conquest and profit so He's alright by me.
In Nazi Germany, he would have gone to the gas chambers. If he isn't classified as Jewish, the 6 million figure has to be dramatically reduced.
An awful lot of those 6 million were Polish Catholics.
The poles were slaughtered by the nazi scum
And by the Bolshevik scum.
Yet somehow when the death toll was reduced by millions - the tally for jewish dead didnt change.
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v21/v21n3p24_weber.html
"The new tablets will replace one with the following inscription: "This is the place of martyrdom and death of four million victims murdered in the Nazi genocide, 1940-45.
It was previously thought that four million died at the camps. More recent research has revealed the figure to be closer to 1.5 million.'
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/17/world/poland-agrees-to-change-auschwit...
Oh I think the nazis murdered plenty of jews. But i think more Poles were killed by nazis and jewish led bolsheviks than jews were murdered in camps.
Note that for all these figure changes, and the katyn forest massacre de-Orwellization of who did it
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-pub...
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Lavrentiy_Beria
You can question or express abstract intellectual doubt about the number of Poles killed - but its a crime to even Doubt the 6 million figure.
Which **suggests** both that jews have imposed a double standard on Europe, including the countries which themselves were victimized by the nazis, and that the true figure was much less, maybe by some millions.
As members of my family died fighting the nazis - though it was not properly 'our' war - no one, not even the jewish survivors of germsn camps, gets to tell me what I may and may not question in a history book written by the victors and replete with all the lies and omissions we see in our corporate/zio msm today.
You would concede he comes from a Jewish backgroung, his father's side being Jewish, changed his name to Clark from the Jewish surname Kanne, and his religion to Catholocism (odd there except his wife must have demanded it - but converted from what?) possibly to hide is Jewish background? Quite a guy there.
Well, as far as he IS Catholic, hows that working out for him? A communing Catholic? Clark had converted to Catholicism, his wife Gertrude's religion, while in Vietnam. Should be ex-wife. I know Catholics are more modern now days, but didn't think they allowed divorce.
He does go for Asians also, so my apologies. LOL
http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/08/08/meet-wes-clarks...
To a Nazi, he would certainly be Jewish.
He should be considered being "Jewish or from Jewish Heritage" also to the Secular Jewish, Conservative/Reform/Other Minor Judaism Sects, and from the Christians and their Hebrew Branch (J4Js).
You are a fucking idiot and the ironic thing is you are a zionazi piece of shit.
Jews are an ethnorrligious group which has largely avoided intermarriage due to their racialism for 2000 years. Whatever jewish religious law has to say does not matter in terms of genetics or the fact a son might identify with his fathers tribe.
Which, I think, is the point - not his religious beliefs.
catholic on the other hand means ''universal' and transcends race. You are or are not catholic by baptism, confirmation, and belief.
I doubt he was ever catholic.
And I do not doubt you are a zionazi jewish supremacist racist hypocrite.
"To a Nazi, he would certainly be Jewish"
depends
some Jews were allowed in the Nazi regime... if they were opportune to the regime. If Albert Einstein would have been a Nazi, the "Greatest Leader Of All Times" would have been willing to kiss him and give him a huge budget to buid nuclear weapons
this is reality, the enemy of the weasel's enemy is the weasel's friend... somewhat
all in all, this argument about Wesley Clark being a Jew or not is completely nuts. only distraction
it just shows that some here can't even think straight without resorting to easy classifications. simplification for simplification's sake
take this example: I support France's new "war" against ISIS. I support Germany supporting France in that. I support Russia... for being at the same side in this conflict
Russia supports Assad's regime, so now Assad is... a friend - or the enemy of the enemy that has to be supported because he is the lesser evil
Assad is supported by Iranian troops, among others, and a lot of what will happen in Syria or not depends on who is going to be on which side in the resolution of this war from 17+ fronts to only one
meaning that some people might have been right in some things... but might have to succumb to the logic of war resolution, which is that one alliance prevails
which might be the Syrian-Franco-Russian-German-Iranian alliance versus... what? a US-British-Saudi-Turkish-Israeli-ISIS alliance?
beware of easy simplifications. the world is complex, and full of grey tones. if you want to see White Hats fighting Black Hats... go to the movies
meanwhile, ISIS has to go. no, I am not suggesting to crucify them all on the road from Aleppo to Baghdad. they are the barbarians, after all
as well as the barbarians that supported them... for expediency
Why do you conflate religious faith with ethnic/genetic heritage?
Irish-Catholic.
Easy to spot the difference, right?
Well theres always that difference. They are ontologically distinct.
There just are not many ethnoreligious groups. The amish might be considered one. If you decide to move to LA after rumspringa and impregnate a Latina girl, you might raise the kid Pastaferian and the kid eill still be half Amish (penn Dutch, actually German).
The Samaritans are another rxample. Orthodox Jews absolutely hate the Samaritans - they never left israel/palestine but purportedlyvintermarried with the assyrians. They didnt go with the hebrew scribes to persia so they never got into their Talmud. But they were hated because they are half-breeds.
Actually They are pretty fascinating people. They may well disappear from the earth in a few generations.
http://www.americancatholic.org/messenger/sep1996/Wiseman.asp
Hasbara troll is just trying to employ a distraction technique. Of course Clark is half Jewish in ethnotribal terms.
Tarabel seized on only that one item BECAUSE BETTER THAT YOU FOCUS ON TRIVIA THAN THE STUFF IN THE COMMENT TARABEL DID NOT REMARK ON.
Tarabel's claim is preposterous. she may be so brainwashed as to believe that religious law itself concerned with tribal/racial purity trumps genetics, or forget that all else aside a guy is usually gonna identify with his dad's 'tribe' (I do, too, to an extent) -
But I suspect that something in Jonnys comment or link triggered the outburst.
As always tarabel has nothing to say about Israel's sins. No criticism ever.
In fact since before i got an account i noticed that tarabel loooooves to ignore substance and shout ANTISEMITE! at people. Now sometimes it fits (his name was Francis...) and thats fine but often its a red herring.
When people discuss settler violence or whatever and someone ignored the events or alleged events and tries to Godwins Law the thing, you know thry are the same as all ultra-nationalists - dishonest, racist cunts.
clark gave a huge pass to Israel. Fair to ask why.
Funny - if a half saudi arab ever had an article here that mentioned turkey and israel but not Salafist Arabia, tarabel would bloody her fingers alleging bias and of course, 'joo hate'
Fucking hypocrites never seem to know how obvious their hypocrisy is.
Still half jewish
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Wesley Clark comes from ‘a long line of rabbis’
by ron kampeas, jta
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washington | Raised a Southern Baptist who later converted to Roman Catholicism, Gen. Wesley Clark knew just what to say when he strode into a Brooklyn yeshiva in 1999, ostensibly to discuss his leadership of NATO's victory in Yugoslavia.
"I feel a tremendous amount in common with you," the uniformed four-star general told the stunned roomful of students.
"I am the oldest son, of the oldest son, of the oldest son — at least five generations, and they were all rabbis."
The incident could be a signal of how Clark, who became the 10th contender in the Democratic run for the presidency on Wednesday, relates to the Jews and the issues dear to them.
Apparently Clark, 58, revels in his Jewish roots.
He told The Jewish Week in New York, which first reported the yeshiva comment in 1999, that his ancestors were not just Jews, but members of the priestly caste of Kohens.
Clark's Jewish father, Benjamin Kanne, died when he was 4, but he has kept in touch with his father's family since his 20s, when he rediscovered his Jewish roots. He is close to a first cousin, Barry Kanne, who heads a pager company in Georgia.
Clark shares more than sentimental memories with Jews.
He couples liberal domestic views that appeal to much of the Jewish electorate with a soldier's sympathy for Israel's struggle against terror.
Appearing in June on "Meet the Press" on CBS, Clarke said he agreed with President Bush's assessment that Israel should show more restraint, a reference to the policy of targeting terrorist leaders for assassination.
"But the problem is," Clark continued, "when you have hard intelligence that you're about to be struck, it's the responsibility of a government to take action against that intelligence and prevent the loss of lives. It's what any society would expect of its leadership. So there's a limit to how much restraint can be shown."
Speaking to the New Democrat Network this year, Clark said that dismantling Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat's Ramallah headquarters was "a legitimate military objective from their perspective.
"For the Israelis, this is a struggle really for the existence of Israel," Clark said in remarks quoted on a support group's Web site.
Clark is also tough on neighboring Arab states, expecting more from them in nudging the Palestinians toward peace.
He has said he would like to see Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia in a "contact group" similar to the alliance that Serb-friendly Russia joined to force the Serbs to back down in Kosovo. He blames Saudi Arabia for allowing extremist strains of Islam to spread.
The former NATO leader also opposes any active international role in policing the West Bank until the political situation is settled, a view that Israelis — nervous at relinquishing control to foreign troops on their borders — would appreciate.
Domestically, Clark favors many of the liberal views popular with many Jews. He is pro-choice, and is strongly in favor of separating church from state.
"In order to have freedom of religion, you've got to protect the state from the church," he is quoted saying on his supporters' Web site.
One of the leaders of the Draft Clark campaign said Clark's strength on foreign policy would neutralize an advantage President Bush now has with Jews, and would bring the debate back to domestic issues, where the Bush administration is weaker with Jews.
"It makes him credible and allows him to focus on domestic policy,' Brent Blackaby said in a telephone interview from Clark's campaign headquarters in Little Rock, Ark.
Two of Clark's top advisers are Jews who had prominent roles in the Clinton and Gore campaigns. Eli Segal was a top adviser to President Clinton in his first term; Ron Klain helped run Vice President Al Gore's 2000 campaign.
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/20574/wesley-clark-comes-from-a-long...
Clark's father's family was Jewish; his paternal great-grandfather immigrated to the United States from Belarus in response to the Pale of Settlement and anti-Semitic violence from Russian pogroms. Clark's grandfather, Jacob Kanne, graduated from the Chicago-Kent College of Law and served in the U.S. Naval Reserve as an ensign during World War I, although he was never assigned to a combat mission. Kanne, living in Chicago, became involved with ward politicsin the 1920s as a prosecutor and served in local offices. He served as a delegate to the 1932 Democratic National Convention that nominated Franklin D. Roosevelt as the party's presidential candidate[11] (though his name does not appear on the published roll of convention delegates). His mother was of English ancestry and was a Methodist. [12]
Still not Jewish.
Read your own post carefully and tell me why he isn't Jewish-- which he isn't.
HINT: Start on the very last sentence.
So he's a methodist you are saying? LOL
No. But he's never been Jewish.
Wow. This really got under your skin.
According to jewish religious law, which is like judaism itself inherently racialist in worldview, unless your mother was jewish you would not be so considered. You can be sure of maternity, not paternity.
Tarabel's responses are absolutely fascinating.
This is the shell game of 'jewish' identity Jewish Supremacists play - its a race, no a religion, no a race - deoending on the argument.
Tarabel, who is a jewish supremacist and about as dishonest as they come, seems obsessed with Clark not being considered Jewish and claims he's 'not Jewish' because the mother was not.
But thats sccording to jewish racial law - is religion transmitted genetically?
No.
Can atheist jews 'return' to israel? Absolutely, they could care less.
Arent the jewish people the direct descendents of the ancient hebrews hence the right of return? Yep - and its a racial/ethnic (tribal) category, not one of faith.
Jews have strained to show that european jews originate in the levant. Of course, by cherry picking a marker or two, you can prove the welsh came from northeast africa.
Of course the palestinian people, who are a mix of arab and pre-arab stock, are more direct descendents of the ancient denizens of Canaan than Ashkenazi Jews, but, because they began following Christianity lng ago they arent 'jewish' by tribal rules.
But genetically...
tarabel as a zionist actually wants to now claim that what jewish racisl law says is dispositive.
It is not. It is a made upset of rules for a tribe concerned with racial purity in an area where lots of other people lived.
Jewish law may not consider Clark Jewish, but with. Jewish dad, science and common bloody ssrnse say he is half jewish. Case closed.
It wouldnt seem to matter much though except his ethnic identity may have caused him to ignore the significant evidence of Israeli support for AL QAEDA AND ISIS.
but much more interesting is the sheer ondurate tenaciry of tarabel's comments. Super defensive in the way people who are completely wrong are.
While Jews are a mix of people historically so is everyone. But Jews are more ethnocentric than anyone and have not sought concerts and resisted assimilation for 2,000 years. Jews claim a "right" to land based on membership in the tribe, but belief in g0d doesnt matter. israel and its rabbinical courts consider a person jewish by birth not belief and the maternal requirement was mainly because maternity is certain.
Heres the strange thing - there is no question - none at all - that matrilineally ashkenazi jews are of european origin. Makes sense, the jewish traders who followed thectrailblazing greeks were mostly male.
Similar phenomenon in iceland- norse/danish men and gaelic (irish/highland scot) and norse-gael women. Icelanders are celtic maternally and viking paternally.
http://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2013/10/08/ashkenazi-jewish-women-...
SO BY TARABELS LOGIC ASHKENAZI JEWS ARE NOT JEWISH AND SHOULD STOP COLONIZING AND OPPRESSING THE NATIVE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE. Their 'mothers' were European - not Semitic.
QED.
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/20574/wesley-clark-comes-from-a-long...
Liar.
Amazing that out of all that long post, you focus on one thing.
(Half jewish)
Why would you not comment on the rest of jonny's comment at all?
Fascinating. Here, jewish isnt a matter of race or genetics at all because jewish law insisted on someones mother being jewish to be deemed a jew... For reasons of racisl purity.
My goodness, you are really a fundamentally dishonest person.
clark is half jewish of course and this would only seem to matter, *maybe* as to why he leaves out the fact israel is supporting isis and al nusra in hopes of killing as many Syrians as possible and making permsnent their illegal annexation of golan which the took in a war THEY STARTED.
This all aside, It's clear that jewish media and political influence will continue to bury israels support for isis and al qaeda just as israrls daily violence against their Palestinian helots is not covered. Then of course when a few individual palestinians, no doubt related to people murdered by idf thugs or jewish racist settlers stabs a jew - all over us media and netsnyahu, the dissembling psycho, can once again cry 'poor israel' on cnn, as his soldier shoot teenagers and his settlers burn children alive.
Fwiw great post. clark's being half jewish (dad not mum) may well becwhy he gives israel a pass on their support for al qaeda terrorists but - remember the words of Joe 'Zio' Biden...
Clark did do a service with the 5 countries 7 years stuff though - gotta give him that.
"Russia, of course, has been upholding President Bashar al-Assad’s administration in Syria against rebel groups backed by the U.S. "
No shit Sherlock. Assad invited the Russians. Assad was democratically elected with officials from over 120 countries monitoring the elections. Syria is a sovereign nation.
Yes, but why is Clark allowed to come out and say that now? What is the purpose of Clark saying these things at this point in time.
Being that their cover is blown they will admit to be funding "moderates" and have these guys change clothes so that they can keep the show running and the CIA vassal can take the heat for the rest/plausible deniability.... plausible to the average US mainstream moron that is. When a guy is being blackmailed for cheating on his wife he may admit to some transgression (not the whole shebang) in order to diffuse the power of the aggressor.
In the 50s when Russia kept the US and Turkey from taking over Syria they started with a CIA operation that was burnt so they just went on an in the open offensive and started to create a coalition against Syria with the surrounding countries.
you mean my new... friend Assad? specifically, my new ally against my enemy, Daesh/ISIS?
jolly good chap. I like him personally as much as I dislike his regime. and no, I do not regard his regime as "democratically elected"
nevertheless, he is my Son Of a Bitch (SOB). And Russia's (and Iran's). And, eventually, France's and Germany's
meanwhile, one of the biggest fears in Washington out of all this mess is that we, the european enemies of the so-called "Islamic State" is that...
... we might recognize Daesh/ISIS as a sovereign country. And wage a proper, civilized war against them. And treat the prisoners as Prisoners Of War, according to the Geneva Convention
all this while having a war that has one goal: to destroy Daesh/ISIS
setting the terms in the simplest manner: yes, you are a state. no, we don't want you to even exist
"but the truth is that he’s supporting terrorists. "
Says the guy that was commanding KLA air force, FBI and Congress recognized terrorist organization.
Fuck this Dem jack wagon
Weasley Clark trips over an acorn.
Clarke is an embarrassment to everyone who salutes the US flag, and a menace to humanity everywhere
This is the same guy who a month ago proposed locking up US citizens (without trial) if they disagreed with "official government policy". Clark is not just a fascist, he is a fascist that lied about protecting the US Constitution.
West Point should be ashamed
I thought he was an honest army guy. So there are none?
Anyone who proposes locking up people in concentration camps for disagreeing with official policy should never be given a command position.
This scum bag made such a proposal in public, and West Point didn't even utter a peep. Not speaking up against such evil is tough to reconcile with West Point's alleged Code of Conduct. Obviously, West Point thinks their Code is a joke (I judge them by their lack of actions, not their empty rhetoric).
Why the US media still gives air time to a scum who supports locking political opponents in concentration camps is another mystery. Obviously freedom of the press (and freedom of speech) isn't covered in "journalism" classes
And, this asshole wouldn't have been locking up Farook, he'd have been locking up Cooter and Billie Bob from Lousyanna because they flew a confederate flag. What a fucktard he is.
Can they stop with this barrel bombing bullshit already?
Wesley Clark, the butcher of Belgrade.
He must be on another book tour.
Kissinger will NEVER, "come clean". He destroyed manufacturing , "single handedly" with Nixon.
Thank Henry", broken arm" Kissinger folks.
Can you briefly describe what he did. I thought he was an integral army dude.
While Clinton was getting blown, Serbia was getting bombed.
Seriously! It's crap s#!t like this that very soon will cause Americans to be NOT welcomed in the Middle East >> http://bit.ly/1PSXaoK
Gee thanks for the info Wes
And just who's interest(s) do you serve?...
Motherfucker!
"And that means it’s serving the interests of Turkey and Saudi Arabia"
And lets all grow up here and say it...... ISRAEL.
Social Security, is "a bribe", for the men and women, that spilled their BLOOD for OUR freedom.
If it wasn't for Israel the world would be safe from Muslims
Typical crap from ZH
dream on fools
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2009/11/16/shining-light-roots-terrorism
If the us disnt support israel and its brutal occupation and periodic war crimes in gaza and lebanon, do you think muslims would be *more* angry at the US or less?
Israel is a settler colonialist state that destabilized (along with the french and brits) the entire region. A region that was stable for many hundreds of years - until European line drawing and supremacist zionism.
http://palsolidarity.org/2015/10/video-israeli-forces-executing-wounded-...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-it...
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/settler-palestinians-october
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/08/palestinian-violence-exceptional
And of course these people gave no right to fight back. Racist, whackjob orthodox jews whose ancestors lived in poland for 1200 years then new york city for a hundred have a 'right' to burn crops and homes because the most direct decendents of the ancient inhabitants of the area are muslim and christian so they dont have any rights to THEIR homeland at all.
Its racist hypocrisy - which your sort excels at.
Not once have you indicated that you have any objection to the violence of jewish 'settlers, or the dozens of examples of idf executions.
Probably, thats because youre a Jewish Supremacist simly incapable of feeling the shame of your own revolting hypocrisy.
The Doctrine of “Superior People”
The Bond between Israel and World Zionism
http://dissidentvoice.org/2015/09/the-doctrine-of-superior-people/
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Typical brainwashed Ziopathic cunt.
I encourage you to view this well researched and factual presentation.It's about much more than 911
Bookmark it and watch it at your convenience
Missing Links The Definitive Truth on 911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooch89sO6T8
Thats not bad but 'the new pearl harbor' is better - certainly on the air defense issue ( not that i concur with everything in there)
Theres a concerted effort to orwellize the 9:/11 'celebrators' - this has been noticed. Wont work. Not on this one.
http://youtu.be/QphxGBXiA-M
^ great summary by Ryan Dawson. He talks about Trump and Carson here:
http://youtu.be/flWqM5xLUPM
We havent heard much in the media about J Pollard huh?
No shock. Dom Suter fled to israel and was and is wanted for questioning. But our ally doesnt hand over wanted criminals and suspects even though theyve gone into other countries to kidnap people (think vanunu).
This is because Israeli supremacist belief doesnt believe jews should be subject to the laws of the goyim.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jewhis5.htm
Just like how it was fine for judea to declare war on germany and organize boycotts before hitler was even chancellor but jews cry and shit their pants at bds. Because while the whole world consider the occupation illegal and they constantly murder the natives and bulldoze their homes - because the jewish state does it, the goyim have no right to criticize. That fat fuck Sharon said as much.
let me see if i understand clarke correctly. barrell bombs from assad's militray are killing innocents in nothern syria predominately turkomen's [ie, erdogan freedom fighters] which according to the ny times [aug/2015] op-ed moar dangerous than isis using human sheilds, and cutting up syrian people for body parts.
now if i've got my thinking cap on correctly... this says that isis ground-to-air surface missle launchers that the ussa and saudi arabia/turkey provided them will be ineffective against syrian helicopters, and the low-altitude areoplanes-- indeed, the... not-so-state-of-the-art airforce that seems to have been runnng thousands of sorties from day one...[?]
did i miss anything?
Everyone is so hell bent on middle eastern oil. This will be known as one of the dumbest and greediest war ever.
What's next? Turkey steals oil from the Leviathan gas field?
We should ask the dead what precisely the difference between death by "barrel bomb" and death by "2000 pounds of explosives bomb" is.
Or death by cluster bombs or DU amminition as he did in Yugoslavia and Kosovo. Or the bombing of civilian infrastructure.
The difference is that barrel bomb and 2000 pounds of explosive bomb kill quicky. Cluster bombs are like mines and bomb later while DU ammunition and bombing refineries and petrochemical factories like they did in Yugoslavia kill slowly. Currently cancer cases and other diseases in Serbia, Kosovo and Montenegro are on the increase. The government of Serbia expected an explosion of these cases 15 years after the campaign and that is what they are witnessing now there.
Clark is a turd, but do we really need Saudi Arabia as an ally anymore? Keystone? Oh yeah....bad for the environment - LOL.
Why does ZH put an asshat that wants to lock people up because of their thoughts on their site anyways?
"Why does ZH put an asshat that wants to lock people up because of heir thoughts on their site anyways?"
So, you only read people you agree with? That's being Myopic.
No source is a complete source. No source has the perfect view.
We read DIFFERENT articles by Different people adjusting and accomodating their slant to see the picture clearer.
Wes. Clark came out and said this now. Why? Who is he affiated with? Why do They want this message out now?
THOSE are the things you gain by reading DIFFERENT stuff.
I know who he is speaking for, ZBig is an asshole, but when he says something, I know who he is speaking for...
Yes Clark maybe a war criminal, but I look for the motives and behind the scenes reason why a message is sent, by who, when...
Reading the people you disagree with sometimes gives you a clearer picture of the whole game.
That's why. You've been here 4 years you know that.
PSYCOPATH
Current Syria is a setup to draw world's major powers and regional powers into a mini WW3 style conflit so oil price can be launched onto moon orbit.
Sounds reasonable
I don't believe that. It's the old Sunni/Shia battle of all time. We should just sit this one out and watch from the sidelines. I could care less which side wins.
Clark, Jewish Rhodes scholar.......ho lee fuk, that sure explains a lot right there! And from Chicago to boot!
Note. I stand corrected by Tarabel, he never was Jewish. Adopted Baptist religion while in Little Rock, then converted to Catholocism while married to ex-wife Gertrude. Father was Jewish, which does not make one a Jew. So there, Tarabel, apology made.
It makes one a half jew.
And ergo presumptively sympathetic to israel.
Which is possibly why he doesnt mention israel's extensive support for al nusra and seemingly even isis.
Its schroedinger's identity - 'jew' means a race or a faith depending on which definition is better suited for a given discussion.
But most jews are atheists/agnostic which is admirable. Any atheist jew can move to israrl.
But a jew who converts to christianity loses that right per israel's high court.
And of course Israel does not recognize marriages between christians and jews.
14/88 brother.
He makes a valid argument but wow - you thrn, in a shocking move, play THE HITLER CARD.
No argument, no real *reason* for it but as you know the first person to mention Hitler wins the argument.
Burn any Palestinisn kids today cuz they arent jews? Its not nazism when jews do it, Jew God sez so!!
Cookie?
Look, Dex, I'm not a big Clark fan myself.
But I'm not a cheerleader for the Nuremburg Laws either.
People who want to start rating humans based on their geneology are effectively ceding the argument to those who are fervently paving the way towards the worldwide restoration of aristocracy. And they better be damn sure they know who is in the old woodpile all the way back to Noah before they start turning racial purity into the pre-requisite for honors or even survival.
People don't need cursed genes to do stupid things.
//s//
An American Mongrel Dog
Rhodes wasn't Jewish either, just for the record, but one hell of an imperialist for his own side.
If only we had a President as bold and visionary as he was.
Well. Hear we see an American General, bold in his own way.
The world of geopolitics is a very nasty thing, and America needs patriots, not Nazionists, Israel First traitors.
What say you, Clarke?
This guy almost started WWIII in Kosovo. First he shifted the campaign from bombing military targets to civilian infrastructure in Yugoslavia. Because NATO thought they would need 48 hours to win the war but they needed 78 days cause Yugoslavian army was not playing along. Then when the Russians sent a army unit from Bosnia to Pristina airport in Kosovo Clarke ordered a British contigent (under the command of now singer James Blunt) to engage them. Blunt's British superior was furious and said to Clarke "I am not going to start WWIII for you". Clarke was then soon sent into retirement. We don't have to worry about him because he has business interest there in the region. Of course.
Great minds, Joe ... And at the same time!
Indeed. Thanks for the links.
+1 for all military commanders refusing criminal orders
Anyone remember that this self serving smug asshole nearly started world war 3?
Thank goodness a brit captain told him he wasnt going to start ww3 over an airport.
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/jatras12.html
http://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/aug/02/balkans3
I knew you were a "defector".
Johnny...you hit this one dead nuts! God i can't stand this turd. Why does he get any press? Him and MCCain should get hitched.
+100!
Yeàh, we got the good bombs, you know, the ones thàt ain't in barrels.
Putin's presidential state of the union. a real leader speaks
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/50864
It took me a good 45 minutes to read that......a good speech by a gentleman.
What a sad little turd this guy is to be on CNN whoring his status as a ex general for the msm. Nothing credible comes from these psychopathic dirty leeches. Zh is dishonored to be using this kind of propaganda
These americans are saying all these things as if nothing is ever gonna happen to them
Actually they are only increasing the prospects of a global nuclear war in which no one will be safe
including them
Americans are the ones building rural retreats stocked with supplies of every kind. So far as I am able to determine, Americans are, percentage-wise, far more aware of what is inevitably coming down the pike and are not relying on the false friend of government to save and protect them.
It will happen. Gone too far to stop now. People who expect their leaders to carry them safe to the other side are going to be mighty disappointed at the trust they put in kings.
No refunds, either.
<<Americans are the ones building rural retreats stocked with supplies of every kind. So far as I am able to determine, Americans are, percentage-wise, far more aware of what is inevitably coming down the pike and are not relying on the false friend of government to save and protect them.>>
In my experience, recent years living in Canada and Australia, you got that one right, tarabel. Upvoted for entire comment.
I agree, and can add that once they blow it all up we'll never give what's left back to them to rule.
That fuckwad has balls.
http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/news/31158-2/#.VmE6XV69Fyo
If ISIS is evil, and Saudi Arabia and Turkey are using it for their benefit, then Saudi Arabia and Turkey are in cahoots with the devil himself.
More and more morons, fools, criminals, retards, psychopaths etc. are getting in power in US. More and more mexicans, latinos, sudanese, pakistanies and etc. immigrants/democrats are entering US.
In 20 years or less US will be a far cry from what it was once before and will look more like Mexico, Guatemala or Zimbabwe.
You can't be led by fools and be a progressive nation.
where does Israel fit in here
Clark is half jewish so may be deliberately giving israel a pass.
Or, he just wants to run for office again one day.
Must
Not
Criticize
Israel
Even when they bomb nursing homes and hospitals, shoot palestinian kids armed with rocks or support al qaeda - to criticize such things when joooooos do it makes you a nazi while when jews act like nazis they are reluctantly defending themselves from jew hating evil palestinisns.
Right, Terrorbel?
You forgot to mention selective Holocaust Denial. These days Holocaust Denial includes disputing or casting doubt on the magic 6 million. Tarabel has declared explicitly the Clark is not Jewish. There is no doubt he would have ended up in the gas chambers if he had been alive during Nazi times. Therefore, by Tarabel's adamant statements, the Jews of similar parentage murdered by the Nazis were not really Jews. Hence Tarabel is denying that 6 million Jews were killed.
The Perfumed Prinz shill has been wheeled out once again; grab your gas masks, the place is starting to stink!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/994187/posts
I$I$, all that stands between the collapse of the Wahabbi Crypt of Saud and its Great Satan USSA as their Ponzi sewer-clogging Saudi Mercan dollah primes to implode in the mother of all toxic derivative tsunamis coming home to drown US.
Surf's up, Mutts!
One more for the whiny Snackbar collection
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ab1_1449177441
Translation: Holy kebab, where the fuck did that Snackbar go?
Rule #2: If in doubt regarding and/or confusion over current events or any/and ALL governmental/legislative/military behavior whatsoever refer to rule #1
https://enronnext101.wordpress.com/
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Listening to what they say, is as stupid as closing your eyes to what they do.
Political general.
Academic general.
Not a real general.
They say that only those with highly tuned political antennae (or as in the case of WC, the right Tribal connections) ever make General.
Say what General? When has the US ever played by the Marquess of Queensbury rules?
I have the solution.
Carpet bomb the entire middle east and build an international gas station with a 1000 mile wide parking lot filled with solar panels.
Its time the world invest in its future, we have too many mouths to feed and too many SUVS to gas up to care about ethics and preserving pretend Arabic royal blood lines anymore, this isn't Aladdin no one cares if Jasmines Royal grandchildren survive and 10000s of U.S. Troops and Citizens should not have to die to preserve these Arabian Princes Blood lines just because they sell us some cheap oil that we can take over anytime we want.
Why dont we stop giving a shit about middle eastern interests and just take care of OUR INTERESTS.
1) We have the military
2) We have the hardware
3) We have the technology
4) We have the money
5) We have ICBMS
6) Every nation would easily ally with us to carve up the middle east and wipe out Islamic Terrorism
Soooo....
Am I missing something? why do we serve saudi princes that worship satan? Why do we even listen to what they have to say? Why do they even have a seat at the table?