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Meet Syed Farook And Tashfeen Malik, The Husband And Wife San Bernardino Shooters
“Was there a link to terror?”
That’s the question Americans are asking themselves the morning after a husband and wife opened fire with assault rifles killing 14 and wounding 21 at a San Bernardino County employee holiday party.
The shooters, Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, left their young child with Farook’s mother in nearby Redlands on Wednesday morning before dressing in “assault clothing,” and crashing the party (literally). A subsequent shootout with authorities left both suspects dead. The couple used a DPMS model and a Smith & Wesson M&P 15 along with two handguns, a llama and a Smith & Wesson. The rifles, two .223s, are capable of piercing bulletproof vests. The weapons were purchased legally.
Here’s what we know about Farook and Malik so far.
Farook, whose family was originally from Pakistan, was born in America and was employed as an environmental health specialist for San Bernardino County. He did what health specialists do: inspect restaurants and other facilities for health violations.
Reuters was able to obtain some on-the-ground intelligence from a SusAnn Chapman, who’s described as “a cashier and waitress at China Doll Fast Food.” Apparently, Farook inspected the China Doll earlier this year. "He was real quiet," Chapman said. "He checked the food and said he was here because somebody complained. ... He looked completely normal."
Ok, not helpful.
However, some clues as to what might (and we emphasize “might”) be going on here emerge when we take a closer look at Malik. According to Hussam Ayloush, executive director of the Los Angeles chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations who, like SusAnn, spoke to Reuters, Malik “was believed to be from Pakistan and had lived in Saudi Arabia before coming to the United States.”
“Farook traveled to Saudi Arabia earlier this year and returned with a wife,” AP reports, citing co-worker Patrick Baccari, who said Farook “was gone for about a month in the spring, and when he returned word got around [he’d] had been married.” His new wife was described as “a pharmacist.”
Now clearly there are no smoking guns there, but it's worth noting that when it comes to radicalization, no one does it quite like the Saudis. But as we read further, AP uncovers the smoking gun: "Several months ago Farook grew out his beard." There you go - excessive beard action. The terrorist hallmark.
All sarcasm aside, AP goes on to say that according to coworkers, Farook was "a devout Muslim," and according to a profile posted on the dating site iMilap, Farook enjoyed "reading religious books and target practice with younger sister and friends."
A separate profile on Dubaimatrimonial.com (which describes itself as the "first and only legal marriage service provider in the UAE), shows Farook identifying himself as a Sunni:
Although we would urge caution when it comes to drawing conclusions around the sectarian divide, we'd be remiss if we didn't note that ISIS, al-Qaeda, and many of the other groups the public generally identifies with extremism, are Sunni. Saudi Arabia (where Farook allegedly found his wife) promotes puritanical Wahhabism.
In the wake of the tragedy, Muzammil Siddiqi, religious director of The Islamic Society of Orange County, reminded Americans that Islam is not synonymous with terror: "Please do not implicate Islam or Muslims. Our faith is against this kind of behaviour."
Here’s Patrick Baccari’s (quoted above) account of the shooting, again, via AP:
Baccari, who was sitting at the same table as Farook, said employees at the holiday party were taking a break before snapping group photos when Farook suddenly disappeared, leaving a jacket draped over his chair. Baccari stepped out to the bathroom when he heard explosions.
"I'm getting pelted by shrapnel coming through the walls," he said. "We hit the ground."
The shooting lasted about five minutes, he said, and when he looked in the mirror he realized he was bleeding. He was hit by fragments in the body, face and arms.
"If I hadn't been in the bathroom, I'd probably be laying dead on the floor," he said.
Clearly, quite a bit hinges on whether or not this gets tied to radical Islam. If authorities "prove" (or create) a link to extremists, the backlash against Syrian immigrants and against American Muslims more generally, will only grow.
Additionally, public support for American boots on Syrian ground will rise as any link to terrorist ideology will invariably be trotted out as "proof" that "lone wolf" or not, attacks have now crossed the pond to reach American soil.
Of course at the end of the day, two people opening fire with assault rifles on a holiday party seems pretty "terrifying" to us regardless of what inspired the shooters, but remember, crises like these are only "useful" in today's world if they serve someone's geopolitical ends so don't be surprised if the mainstream media soon turns up the San Bernardino equivalent of the forged Syrian passport found in Paris three weeks ago.
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These psychopaths are getting desperate as we see more of these "terrorist" attacks in the west. They will be coming for our guns and tightening down the screws on free speech. Big stuff is brewing so expect to see more crazy shit, much more often. We have secretly been fighting WWIII for some time now as we are getting close to financial meltdown. Let's just hope that Russia can drop enough truth bombs as to what is really going on so Americans will finally wake up. I'm optimistic but I'm not holding my breath!
We need to have a conversation (Leftist voice)
[right voice] Yes, we've established a bipartisan committee for just that purpose.
Sunni mosques that promote puritanical Wahhabism should be burned to the ground and bulldozed.
It comes straight from the camels mouth read "An Abridged Koran" and find out for yourself why all Muslims are potentially terrorists.
Wahbbism is a British invention and spread by Saudi oil money and Madrassas
It does for Muslims what Zionism does for jews
http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-time-to-lift-veil-on-sa...
I think all mosques should be bulldozed flatter than hammered spit!
Also, bulldoze synagogues, churches, and cathedrals. Bulldoze the Vatican's bassilica.
Bulldoze tthe Fed.
(Edit. This is all in my mind, It'll never happen.
Good idea. Outlaw rebuilding.
In the wake of the tragedy, Muzammil Siddiqi, religious director of The Islamic Society of Orange County, reminded Americans that Islam is not synonymous with terror: "Please do not implicate Islam or Muslims. Our faith is against this kind of behaviour."
There's some divine deception for ya. Closer to the truth is Mohammed's own words: "Kill [the infidels] wherever ye shall find them."
They left the space out of Islam - it really should be " I Slam".
More lies and bullshit from the religion of terror. Wake the fuck up sheeple.
There is NOTHING in his background check that would prevent him from buying guns.
A suspicious neighbor remained silent - for fear of being called a racist.
This was not a suicide mission. They had GoPro cameras on them that they intended to upload.
If a devout Muslim who visits Saudi Arabia, buys assault rifles, and enjoys target shooting - does not draw the attention of police and FBI - then this activity will never be stopped - by police anyway!
More fake hoaxes from the media... ugh
Damn, are they still considered "white" like the following 8 out of 10 Top Wanted Texas Fugitives?
http://www.vdare.com/posts/texass-top-10-most-wanted-fugitives-include-8...
http://www.unz.com/isteve/texass-top-10-most-wanted-fugitives-include-8-...
http://kxan.com/investigative-story/texas-troopers-ticketing-hispanics-m...
NY Daily News Suggests Whites To Blame For San Bernardino Shootinghttp://newobserveronline.com/ny-daily-news-blamed-whites-for-san-bernard...
Initially people at the party stated the shooters wore masks and never saw who it was. We'll never know what really happened, but the Media and guvmint will keep us "informed".
Im sure this was brought on by micro-aggression and climate change.
Wow, I was genuinely surprised that they were not "buried at sea" in accordance with their "religious beliefs", but then again I have become a rather cynical fuck these days...
Whether this is a drill gone live, a psyop, or a legit prayer rug freak-out, these incidents illustrate that it's time for every sane American to carry a firearm.
Be subtle, don't brandish, permits be damned. Gun Free Zones are goddamned deathtraps. Don't participate in it.
Farook enjoyed "reading religious books and target practice with younger sister and friends."
Because nothing goes together like religious books and target practice. Kind of like chocolate and peanut butter, am I right?
I saw that too. I came to the conclusion that his reading was of the Quran and target practice means he used to shoot his siblings and friends as the Quran says.
Easy ...
As long as the Muslims are sitting on the world's oil supply it won't be about Islam and that is guaranteed by the full faith of the libtard commies that run the world.
actually you are right.
8th house of death is Scorpio, it is also the house of sex.
Sagittarius is religion, one could also ascribe orgasm and paradise to Sag as well.
often perverts will have porn photo and religious photo side by side when they are arrested on
some sex crime. I would think jihad is similar because in order to get into the light in Sagittarius you
must pass through the war in Scorpio.
Sayed Farook was a Scorpio and had Venus (love) in Sagittarius (religion) along with Mars (fight) in Libra for relationship or with. This mars Uranus/Pluto locks onto the Uranus/Pluto square.
When I look at his chart I am thinking this was real, he had a fixed square with Sun/Moon/Pluto.
the woman radicalized him.
wtf?
some people have understanding of these symbols and archetypes and how they play out in the human psyche.
Another NSA spying and FBI sleeper-cell-tracking success story.
The problem I have with believing this was a false flag etc is how did "they" get two young muslims to take part in something like this.
If they were told it was a training exercise, then who did the shooting? And why did these muslims flee after the incident?
Similar unknowns exist with several of the other shootings in recent months.
Americans are not asking themselves if this was "terror". American KNOW it was terror.....
This is not normally normal.
"The Islamic Society of Orange County, reminded Americans that Islam is not synonymous with terror: "Please do not implicate Islam or Muslims. Our faith is against this kind of behaviour.""
I love a good laugh while having my morning coffee.
Funny how it went from looking for 3 white people to now being middle eastern husband and wife.
I fully expect the terrorism link since it makes absolutely no sense and the people behind operation gladio 2.0 don't care if their bullshit makes any sense.
With all the fuckers bombing everyone in Syria, dumb Question. Why is nobody bombing Saudi Arabia?
Our pet camels are parked there.
but imagine we did and the royal apes decided they wouldn't use the petrodollar anymore in response?
OY
Fair point, and the situation you describe is a natural, unavoidable consequence of a failed nation state that still has a powerful military. The US.gov military is for hire, and the leverage our profligate/corrupt "DC reps" have given to foreign parties WILL lead to further corruption. It is up to the faithful remnant to 'reform our line' and meet/destroy our enemy. Tick tock!
Nothing more dangerous than a wounded animal.
Thinking this guy and his wife don't exactly fit the profile of mass murderers.
Is this another false flag that must be debunked?
How convenient for the government that they both ended up dead. No loose ends and no one to contradict the story. Brainwashing costs money, involves others and leaves telltale signs.
Are there any surveillance tapes or are those missing as usual?
Since Westboro was shunned by majority for Christians, et.,al., (Jeremiah Wright, Jesse, Al exclusions) as hateful, why don't the masses of peaceful Muslims rise against CAIR and the Imams promoting Jihad? Every Muslim I personally know has held their religion and thrown away the 7th century bullshit. Wives are uncovered and they enjoy the west's benefits. Why does the stupid virus promoted by the STATE continue to spread ? Is it going to take loyalty oaths, deportations and criminalizing religious practices to root out this shit ? The world is so fucked if that is the only solution, OUR CHILDREN"S CRUSADE to FREEDOM, FUCK YEAH- BooYAH !!! Makes me just sick to see centuries of positive progress annihilated from abject stupidity. Does the most violent STATE and its base actions always win out? I need to get out of this sick Matrix for a few days.
I'm sure someone has mentioned this but I haven't had time to read all the posts. To add to the mystery, SWAT team training going on nearby. This seems to be a common theme with these incidents.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://thefreethoug...
Makes one think more lives could be saved by banning training drills than by banning guns.
Geezus. It's like a pinata fest on this site all the sudden.
Duhhh shoot all the Muslims first and let God sort it out.
Duhhh turn the Middle East into glass.
Duhhh there sittin' on our oil. On and on and fuckin' on.
Is there not a dipshit here that has enough brains after generations of Psy. Opps. to use a tiny bit of critical thinking when a Flase Flag is slapping you in your stupid, "we're better dan dem," fugly face??
Love all the tin-foil hat barbs at the end Tyler.
Keep up the good work.
No pictures of the wife Tashfeen Malik. What is that about?
http://static.ijreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Screenshot-6_18_20...
Obama claimed no other country has mass shootings just the other day. Which is funny when you consider what a GD mess he made in Syria alone. I guess nerve gas being shot out of cannons by his Islamic radiacl buddles does not count ether.
mass killing people by remote control from a distance is honorable in obomba's eyes
Who really cares... Americans have destroyed millions of lives in the middle east... payback is a bitch.
If the whole world lived by the "eye for an eye" principle we would all be blind.
I can just image the comment on ZH if these guys attacked a FED building or the stock exchange in NY.
Too much security. They have armed guards.
Obama has so much egg on his face that it is hard to hear his muffled lies about how great it is to import more Islamic radicals.
What? Not a terrorist attack?
And yesterday ZeroHedge reported it was "three white males." Well, I guess this blows the narrative.
Pakistani and Saudi connections and devout muslim. Who would have guessed.
The MSM have expanded the definition of white male to include any person bringing violence to other persons.
Help me out. How many 'microaggressions' were perpetrated yesterday out in CA?
If this event leads to official American boots on the ground then it looks like a black flag event. Tie it in with the redcoats starting to bomb Syria and it sort of makes sense.
Alternatively they might of been working for Saudi as Saudi is running out of cash. They are spending like $1,5 billion per month on their war in Yemen and are eating away into their wealth fund at the rate of $140 billion pa at todays oil prices. They need American troops in the ME for their own protection.
I have to say that there are so many Conspiracy Theorists, False Flag theorists, and Isolationists on this site - it's almost not worth commenting.
Everybody is focusing on Syed Farook. You are missing the important link. His behavior changed AFTER he was married. The real question is - who was Tashfeen Malik? What kind of mother gives her kid to friends, so she can go shoot a room full of people???? There's a pretty good chance that the person in Syed's family who was the extreme Muslim ... was Tashfeen Malik.
There is NO way to stop an attack like this with gun laws - or anti-gun laws. It doesn't matter if you own a 45-cal handgun and you carry it to your own Christmas party. If ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES leaves the party, then comes back an hour later and shoots everybody - you are dead. You don't have time to draw your weapon. When the guy comes through the door, he's already got an AR-15 ready to go. End of story, game over. Gun ownership does not prevent this type of tragedy.
The only thing that would have stopped this ... armed guards at the doors to the treatment center. But that's expensive and most of America's buildings are not protected that way.
Once again ... PRAYERS for all of the families of the victims in this terrible incident.
Howzabout critical thinkers? The lame stream media/gov. has (citizens? comsumers?) locked in a web of lies. TPTB has spent lots of time and money confusing folks in regards to differences between a tin foil hat and a thinking cap.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ACES HIGH, BABY. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
100+ upvotes, please.
If that happened in London or Paris then the deathtoll would have been much higher if the shooter desired it, because they could guarantee the whole lot were unarmed. So while I agree you cannot stop a shooter from killing a number of people in a room, their shooting spree is always going to be short in a area where most people are armed.
For among other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised - Nicolo Machiavelli
Question is why are they hiding her? No background, no pics, nothing.
I knew a Syrian guy raised in Europe who said to me a decade ago "the most dangerous of all people are veiled women"
Well, I have to call you on a couple of ass-umptions that you make.
One; Seems to me that the two patsies don't fit the mantra of 3 military-dressed MEN. So how do you know that this husband / wife combo really did it?
Two; I open carry my S&W 1911TA .45 everywhere I go, and I'll tell you, people notice it's there. So #1, good chance that a wannabe perp might think twice. And #2, you bet your ass I'd take them out, steal their AR or AK and open up on any other perps. Hell, for that matter, I could disarm them with a beer bottle thrown at their head. Too many people are hiding under tables (that's no cover, anyway--a table's not going to protect you). And then there's my backup Colt New Agent .45 hidden away.
And if it moves into the parking lot, I just pull out my 5.56x45mm M4 w/ EOTECH holographic and 8 magazines ready to go (one already loaded up).
Three; As for your armed guards at the door, they're usually not ready for anyting and are almost always the first casualities.
So, really, what's your answer then? A fully disarmed society that says "yes, master" every time the government says JUMP?
Four; This FALSE FLAG shooting was just another ASD.
So many shootings and race problems in the United States these days.
Who ever thought that would come to pass with a black race obsessed President appointing AA mulattoes everywhere and anywhere?
I think the morons that voted for him thought he was going to play and sing "tiptoeing thru the tulips" and everyone would live in la la land. I guess those that understood him and got in line for a 300/400k government job came out just fine. The people have been dumbed down for generations. If they weren't the government couldn't stay in power...simple as that. Getting a gun will do nothing. Expecting the 52% dead wood that work for government to vote for change(losing their free lunch) isn't going to happen. Welcome to living hell boys and girls. I'm sorry you were left out like me. Oh well...we still have Obamacare.
Muslims are brought up to embrace violence. It is part of their culture. Americans are brought up to be peaceful and compliant. Until America and the world finds their nads, we will lose. All who have been brought up to be peaceful and compliant need to embrace violence because your enemy embraces violence. First, buy a gun & ammunition and train, train, train. Your president is a Muslim and we are all in deep shite.
Arm yourselves and your family, take the courses and practice, practice, practice. For defense and to save your lives. Their's or ours, violence works.
blame the polticians who let him into the country in the first place.
he was born here, dimwit.
Well, as far as we know right now. Remember, Barry Soetero was "born here" also.
Are these cops going to skate because of their timing?
http://abc7news.com/news/suspect-killed-in-officer-involved-shooting-in-...
These muslims in the US need their own Moses to take them on an exodus to their new promised land in some ME or east african hell hole. Farrakan might be the man.
Me thinks they were having a marital spat. Then rather than beat on each other more (which was getting boring) they decided to go pop some innocents who were hell bent on having a Christmas party (uffda!) at tax payers expense.
It was a cultural thing. Maybe the bible was right. When you deal with halfwits you have to use the scorched earth policy. Kill everyone remotely connected and burn everything remotely connected. Now....you recovering Catholics...it is in the bible.
Maybe they should have started swinging?
how could they know they were white? How could any witness at the shooting know that the shooter was at the rented meeting hall/christmass party, left and came back? They were wearing tactical gear with masks? And after shooting up the place, they walked aout and instead of taking one of the multitude of highways leading away from the city...they hung out a couple miles away? A tip supposedly lead police to a home and the ensuing car chase lead them back towards the crimescene....what kind of tip could they have possibly recieved? Did someone call in and tell them " hey I know that guy in the mask who's face could not be scene? Seriousl
Early on, someone reported seeing a man being picked up by a black SUV and driving away in no apparant hurry. I imagine they got a plate ID on this SUV and that is what led them to the townhouse. They only confirmed the report that the guy was at the party after they had killed and identified him.
People you work wth everyday can be recognized behind a mask. Voice height, weight, gait, many things contribute to identity. Just as NSA.
From the article: Clearly, quite a bit hinges on whether or not this gets tied to radical Islam.
That's almost funny. I think its very radical, when you drop off the kid at Moms like you're going to go to the movies but instead the plans are a mass killing.
One of THE most basic instincts in life is to raise and protect your child as it grows. This couple didn't have much trouble overriding that instinct and it was due to what? Again?
They went to the movies, they watched an anti-muslim video, they shot the place up. What's not to understand?
The Zionazi mind rays.
Everytime I hear about americans I hear "Sayd" "Tarek" "Omar" "Saimir" "Mahamed"
Is this really the United States of America ?
'If authorities "prove" (or create) a link to extremists'
more like "if authorities are unable to sell a plausibly deniable alternative & are forced to acknowledge"
I'm not saying they ARE extremists (I don't know), just that the motivation of "authorites" is NOT to determine the truth* but to exhaust and/all remotely plausible alternatives...
(*well, publically at least - I'm sure quantico, langely & ft meade are still in the "reality" business)
What they did was extreme, therefore they are extremist. The basis for the extremism may be, as yet unestablished, but the fact of extremism is not. Saudi Arabia, world champion of beheadings, is certainly extremist. This killer recently travelled there. The link is established. Whether or not the link was causal may be in doubt (if you are retarded). Whether that link links back to Langely or not is yet to be established.
Dumb asses. You were duped into a Drill that went LIVE on ya... Tee, Hee, Hee....
Harry Reid wants house vote today to ban anyone convicted of misdemeanor from owning firearms
http://www.ibtimes.com/after-san-bernardino-shooting-harry-reid-wants-se...
In a statement on Wednesday after the San Bernardino shooting, Reid said there is no excuse for inaction on gun safety legislation, urging for “common sense gun reforms” to prevent criminals and people with mental illnesses from obtaining weapons. “Yet again our country is faced with another sickening act of gun violence perpetrated against innocent people,” he said. “Gun violence has become a cancer on this nation. We are better than this. Too often we are turning on our televisions to scenes of horror like those we are witnessing today. This madness must stop.”The saddest part about this whole mess is, these liars could careless about gun control or the deaths of innocents, they're more afraid for their own well being when this entire economy goes boom!...Just look at today s economic numbers, the worse the economy gets the more they ratchet up the BS.
But Harry Reid is a felon.????
Some muslim immigrant who has never been convicted of a misdemeanor shoots up his coworkers and Harry's conclusion is to ban people with misdemeanors from owning guns. That qualifies as insane. So does the idea that someone who believes it is OK to plan and commit murder will stop his plans because doing so might cause them to commit a lesser crime.
Not to mention, Harry, you shithead, such a law would violate the constitution. This is reason enough to charge him with treason. The day they pass a law like this is teh day they should be swinging from the lampposts until they beg someone to shoot them.
How about if Muslims can't get guns and get butt searched at the airport.
He was not an immigrant. He was born in Chicago.
Well, as far as we know right now, he was born in Chicago.
And anyways-- are we really sure that Shitcongo is even a legitimate part of the United States anymore?
What happened to the third shooter? Poof?????
You mean the shooter on the grassy knoll? He hopped a train and got out of Dodge toot sweet.
The kill shot came from a storm water drain after the limo came to a stop.
The tip came from survivors of the shooting. Saed left his jacket on the chair and he was not accounted for. Quick investigation led to his mothers house.
Three white males..................................
Almost time for police to bust down your doors and take your guns... then the mayhem starts!!
First Hero through the door doesn't go home to his wife and kids, if I die in the ensuing raid well than I die a free man on my own terms. But at least one is coming along for the trip...
This. A .338 round for the first fucker thru the door, and many fantastically painful door-prizes for anyone within 30 meters.
Pretty sure they already did this in Redlands/San Bernardino, just yesterday.
They call it, "searching for the suspect". It involves a giant gang of militarized police blocking off one neighborhood at a time, going door to door, using battering rams if you dont come out willingly. See Boston Bombing videos for a similar situation.
They continued to do this even after 2 of the 3 suspects had been shot dead. As other posters noted, the third seems to have disappeared.
Watching D.C. and the media desperately spin this like spiders on lsd is more troubling than the event itself.
Sounds like a Ziggy stardust sequel.
Funny that Obama's initial reaction to this was that people who are on the no fly list should not be able to buy guns.
This muslim just flew to Saudi Arabia.
He was not on the do not fly list.
Why can't we say we have a muslim problem?
That would be rasis, Muslim lives matter, others, not so much.
So, does the fact that Christian abortion opponant Robert Dear shot up Planned Parenthood in Colorado mean we have a Christian problem or does he get a pass because there weren't as many casualties?
How many Christians are blowing themselves up in order to kill people who don't believe in Jesus?
0
Islam is a death cult.
Muslims in the US aren't doing that. Christian terrorist groups like the Army of God, Eastern Lightning (AKA Church of the Almighty God), the Lord's Resistance Army, The National Liberation Front of Tripura, Antibalaka, The Christian Identity Movement, The Phineas Priesthood and The Concerned Christians are are just a few of the groups that have threatened, plotted and executed terrorism in the name of Christianity in the US and elsewhere.
You are making an ass out of yourself. You have the mind of an infant.
The fact is, as ZH points out, that there are more mass shootings in the US than there are days in the year, and most have been committed by males, mostly white ones. Dylann Roof. Adam Lanza. James Holmes. Jared Loughner. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. The fact that yesterday's shooters are muslim doesn't change that.
The Tylers at ZH don't get everything right. That "300+ mass shootings per year" meme is bullshit, a product of tortured statistics where libtards call any shooting that happens to have more than two victims a "mass shooting". Suddenly a liquor store robbery gone wrong becomes a "mass shooting" to them.
If a liquor store robbery gone wrong results in more than four people being shot it is considered a "mass shooting". What's your point?
Fifty times more Americans have been killed by guns than terrorist attacks since 9/11, but somehow we are supposed to get more worked up when a muslim is involved in a shooting.
My point is, stop being a faggot, and buy a gun, and learn how to use it.
Cretin. Develop some critical thinking skills. Oh, never mind. There is only so much one can do such limited resources as you were born with I suppose...
330 million people and 400 deaths by mass shooting.
Yet, 30000 deaths by accidental falling according to CDC.
Fuck you fear faggot. Shootings aren't even in the top 10 yet you act like a bitchass cunt who thinks we all are gonna die by gun. Drowning is more viable as a source of death so take your weak ass shit and stuff it.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/accidental-injury.htm
Well, mass shootings certainly become important when one is arguing about terrorism in the US and what to do about it. Dolt.
Your response affirms the destruction of your argument.
I apologize for the angry words I just see hundreds of other ways we die yet incessant posting about what is absolutely unlikely to affect any of us.
Open your fuckin house then. Host a family you fucking bleeding heart. Welcome the invader! Go buy them all the necessary "materials" to get their Gawd on!
It takes 1 1/2 -2 years of screening before a refugee is allowed into the US, and there is no evidence that the process isn't successful.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/zorn/ct-syria-refugees-terror...
Bullshit 18+ months. It takes half a night for a wetback to cross the Rio Grande.
And they are not refugees, FYI, they are undocumented immigrants.
in normal speak we call them illegal aliens...
I would have to question his 'Christianity' since what he did is emphatically condemned in the Bible ... But what the San Berdo shooters did is commended in the Quran.
FYI, here are some Bible quotes that could incite terrorism and violence if taken literally by Christian nut-jobs:
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the [holy man] who represents God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged.
I will fill your mountains with the dead. Your hills, your valleys, and your streams will be filled with people slaughtered by the sword. I will make you desolate forever. Your cities will never be rebuilt. Then you will know that I am God.
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother-in-law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
Make ready to slaughter [the infidel’s] sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants.
Then I heard God say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children.”
Keep [my holiday], for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die.
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.
Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
A [holy man’s] daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.
Everyone who would not seek God was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.But if [a girl wasn't a virgin on her wedding night] and evidence of the girl's virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her father’s house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against God’s people by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.
If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.
Cursed be he who does God’s work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood.
Anyone who blasphemes God’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of [believers].
Anyone else who goes too near the [Holy Place] will be executed.Nice-- straight out of the CAIR playbook. That's the best you can do? A dozen or so quotes, and some of them egregiously out of context?
Simply can't be compared to the Koran.
"The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Quran.
The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God; however this works both ways. Most of today's Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book's call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence. Apologists cater to their preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny. Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.
Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's own martial legacy - and that of his companions - along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history."
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm
Christian nut-jobs don't pay much attention to historical context to justify their hatred. And enlightened muslims certainly pay attention to context when they read the Quran.
http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Islam/2002/08/What-The-Quran-Really-Says...
So there wasn't a third suspect?
There are 130 million in Paki, 120 million in Bengladesh, 200 million in Indonesia...Just three more Islam dominated countries of "have nots" with historical scores to settle with the "impious west" amongst its nihilistic and alienated youth ; OUTSIDE of those countries where Pax AMericana has already destroyed the infrastructure and state power since NWO mantra began in 1991.
If we go full retard to Islamist Jihad vs Christian Crusade and throw the Enlightenment into the Garbage bin we will TRULY be back in 1492!
All as blowback for oil and hegemonial exceptonalism based on "for us or against us" manichean hubris built on shock and awe militarism.
Well, as then in "God wills it "days, it was all for Spice and Silk and Precious stones. When the Crusaders arrived there they quickly understood that 70% of the world's wealth was in the East (China and India) and those trade caravans headed to Constantinople and Alexandria to feed the world. By controlling the Holy land routes those Templars in their castles could make good money saying : "stand and deliver" in name of Jesus as they wore their red and white crosses of the Militia.
Fighting for a Church on the Hill was just smoke and mirrors once the money started rolling in; to become the new militarist Oligarchs of that age.
Guess what? it all came out into the open when the Fourth Crusade went and captured Constantinople from those "lousy corrupt, opulent" and "apostate" Greeks. Venice became the Capital of western commerce and Head Naval Republic. It changed the face of the West. As it led to the demise of christian solidarity. Politics and greed, as always, trumped Ideology. Contrary to religious creed its the temporal order that rules over the intemporal when "push goes to shove" ! Time and again.
But as the head of Colonial expansionism of the Frankish Empire of that age (Saint Louis being the "retroactive" GBW type colonialist of that age), the CIA/Bankster combine ; the Templars; got burned in PAris in 1314 for having NOT ONLY failed to hold the Holy Land but also to have become richer than the king of France and a challenge to Rome with a network of churches that could match in taxes those paid to the Papal network. The Templars had created a Deep christian ISIS State within the feudal decentralised states of that age in all the majors countries.
They had to go! And they went in a bonfire of impious vanities (as designated sodomites).
So... now we know that to clean out ISIS you first have to clean out the CIA... History rhymes. To clean out islamic ideology don't go after the condotierri mercenaries go after the head which lies in....!
The Germans havn't come on board yet. Wait until they do. They really know how to kill people. The whole area will be glassed over and ready for a new society about 200,000 years from now. The CIA have shown themselves to be totally inept so they really arn't a problem. At the end of the day we are just dust in the wind.
you mean here?
https://goo.gl/maps/uy8DbickuN12
Well, yes, they probably will take the guns
and yes, they will bring lots of Muslims to this country
It will be like shooting fish in a barrel for them, like this event
That is what is coming
And you know it is planned for the new great well controled order
So what are you going to do about it other then expose your rear on a web site?
Time to move elsewhere?
Where? There's nowhere to go.
Away from large Muslim populations and Muslim training centers [Jihad]
Get right with your maker first
http://www.westernjournalism.com/22-islamic-terrorist-camps-us/
22 Islamic Terrorist Camps Located In USMooseballs Montana
If someone in that room had been armed, they might not be dead. Being pc never saved anyone's life.
Or the one making a move to retrieve his gun might be the first one taken out in a surprise attack. Its not like he would have it out on the table at a party.
The monitors of a FF event pre-screen the site to assure there are no armed victims.
Co-workers told The Times they were shocked to hear Farook's name linked to the shooting. Two who were in the restroom when the bullets began to fly said he was quiet and polite, with no obvious grudges. ~ LA Times
We're used to people having grudges, not being polite or quiet, who do these things. But it's the conviction of religion, from the religious book that founds that religion that causes this.
He was just talking his book.
Nontypical behavior combined with detached emotions are also indicative of mind controlled stooges.
I am a speed reader, and can't be bothered to investigate this myself so someone just tell me. If he went over for a wife in the spring, how did they have a child already?
They are Muslims.
Uh...he married her after she was 6 months pregnant?
Since they are the epitome of God's children it would have to be Immaculate Conception
Vigor,
Stop killing the narrative and just follow the script that was written. It got thrown together during the short holiday week and no one fact checked it.
Oh...OK.
Franco Harris had nothing to do with this
Immaculate Conception? Get real. Every Jill has her Jack.
HOW DID THE SUSPECTS MEET?
Farook, who was born in the United States, traveled to Saudi Arabia earlier this year and returned with a wife, said co-worker Patrick Baccari, who attended the holiday party Wednesday but was in the bathroom when the shooting started. Baccari says Farook was gone for about a month in the spring, and when he returned word got around Farook had been married. The woman he described as a pharmacist joined him in the U.S. shortly afterward, and they soon had a baby. Police described Malik as Farook's wife or fiancee. HMM, GO TO SAUDI ARABIA IN THE SPRING AND QUICKLY GET MARRIED AND CONCEIVE A BABY OR IS THIS HOW THE MUSLIMS PLAN IMMIGRATION IN THE FUTURE BY SENDING "BRED MAMMA'S" HERE TO HAVE INSTANT CITIZENS--HAS TO BE THIS WAY BECAUSE TODAY, THE BABY IS 6 MONTHS OLD---SEE BELOW
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HOW DID IT HAPPEN?
Baccari, who was sitting at the same table as Farook, said employees at the holiday party were taking a break before snapping group photos when Farook suddenly disappeared, leaving a jacket draped over his chair. Baccari stepped out to the bathroom when he heard explosions.WELL BARACK, MAYBE WORK ON OUTLAWING PIPE BOMBS AND HAND GERNADES BEFORE YOU ADDRESS GUNS
"I'm getting pelted by shrapnel coming through the walls," he said. "We hit the ground."
The shooting lasted about five minutes, he said, and when he looked in the mirror he realized he was bleeding. He was hit by fragments in the body, face and arms.
"If I hadn't been in the bathroom, I'd probably be laying dead on the floor," he said.
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HOW DID THE FAMILY REACT?
The suspects Farook and Malik left their 6-month-old baby girl with Farook's mother early Wednesday morning, saying they had a doctor's appointment, said Hussam Ayloush, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. Ayloush based his comments on conversations he had with Syed Rizwan Farook's brother-in-law Farhan Khan, who appeared at a news conference late Wednesday as a family representative.
The young parents did not return to get their daughter for several hours, however, and their family became worried when they could not reach them after seeing reports on the news about the shooting. The family at first was concerned that Farook might be a victim of the shooting because they knew he worked as an environmental inspector at the county's health department and sometimes worked at the Inland Regional Center, Ayloush said.
The family only began to piece together the events around 2 p.m. — three hours after the shooting AND BOMBING — when a reporter called with questions, Ayloush said. Family members were being questioned by police late Wednesday.
"We don't know the motives. Is it work, race-related, is it mental illness, is it extreme ideology? At this point, it's really unknown to us and at this point it's too soon to speculate," Ayloush said. COME ON, IS IT REALLY TOO EARLY TO SPECULATE--WHY DID HE GROW OUT THE BEARD LIKE AN ISIS GOON?--WONDER IF ALL THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA PICTURES OF THIS GUY SHOW THE BEARD OR SHOW THE HANDSOME CLEANSHAVEN VERSION
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WHAT DID FAROOK'S CO-WORKERS THINK OF HIM?
Baccari said his co-worker, who said he was raised on a farm with goats and chickens, was reserved. Several months ago Farook grew out his beard. He appeared committed to his family, and never displayed any unusual behavior or discussed any radical political views--WHEN? AFTER HE CAME BACK FROM SAUDI ARABIA? HMMM, WE OUTLAWED TRAVEL TO CUBA FOR DECADES, MAYBE WE SHOULD DO THAT TO SAUDI ARABIA--IT IS CLEAR THAT TRAVELING TO SAUDI ARABIA MAKE YOU A CRAZY BLOOD THIRSTY ISLAMIC WACKO
I wanna know how they had a six month old child while being in country for 12 months at most and pregnancies are 9 months. I guess the kid is a fuckin giraffe?
Maybe this guy flipped out because it was "Everything Bacon Day" in the cafeteria. Give this Muzzie a proper burial by sprinkling some bacon bits in the casket!
That's how I want to go!!!
Don't worry folks. Obama has the JV team contained.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVTcwuhWcAIRLx5.jpg:large
All Hail Caesar!
The thin smoker in the rainbow house has spoken...his usual tripe and drivvel...all he can do is focus on the guns, the guns, the guns. He says he is now going to make it 'very hard' for you to obtain any weapon, and he is warming up his executive pencil to exact his final revenge against America!!!
There is no motive? So the mulsim puke went to saudi and got radicalized this past year, came back here, grew a beard and worked really hard (bless his heart), working late nights in his garage with his muslim accomplices to make sure his murders were of maximum effect.
So this MUSLIM (notice i did not say radical, or jihadi), drops off his beautiful brown baby with his complicit mother and proceeded to MURDER 14 Americans.
And the CAIR (a MUSLIM TERRORIST) Org, has a quick presser to denounce the killings and stand in 'solidarity' with America, and proceed to bring Mustafa's brother-in-law on stage, where he said he spoke to him a week ago, but knows nothing!
Horse Hockey, they are all lying through their teeth, every stinking one of them.
You see, we ARE AT WAR WITH ISLAM!!! There are no moderates, if so, they would have grown a backbone long ago, to out these murderous people.
I see my bleeding heart serial junker is back, true to form, down me without comment. My little liberal pinhead, you can't refute me because you have no arguemnt, period.
You get auto downvoted simply because you're a moron.
ahhhh, the biggest moron of them all, kinda like calling the kettle black right progressive, carry on
You get downvoted because you believe 19 muslims and 19 muslims alone were responsible for 9'11.