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Meet Syed Farook And Tashfeen Malik, The Husband And Wife San Bernardino Shooters

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“Was there a link to terror?” 

That’s the question Americans are asking themselves the morning after a husband and wife opened fire with assault rifles killing 14 and wounding 21 at a San Bernardino County employee holiday party. 

The shooters, Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, left their young child with Farook’s mother in nearby Redlands on Wednesday morning before dressing in “assault clothing,” and crashing the party (literally). A subsequent shootout with authorities left both suspects dead. The couple used a DPMS model and a Smith & Wesson M&P 15 along with two handguns, a llama and a Smith & Wesson. The rifles, two .223s, are capable of piercing bulletproof vests. The weapons were purchased legally.

Here’s what we know about Farook and Malik so far. 

Farook, whose family was originally from Pakistan, was born in America and was employed as an environmental health specialist for San Bernardino County. He did what health specialists do: inspect restaurants and other facilities for health violations.

Reuters was able to obtain some on-the-ground intelligence from a SusAnn Chapman, who’s described as “a cashier and waitress at China Doll Fast Food.” Apparently, Farook inspected the China Doll earlier this year. "He was real quiet," Chapman said. "He checked the food and said he was here because somebody complained. ... He looked completely normal." 

Ok, not helpful.

However, some clues as to what might (and we emphasize “might”) be going on here emerge when we take a closer look at Malik. According to Hussam Ayloush, executive director of the Los Angeles chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations who, like SusAnn, spoke to Reuters, Malik “was believed to be from Pakistan and had lived in Saudi Arabia before coming to the United States.” 

“Farook traveled to Saudi Arabia earlier this year and returned with a wife,” AP reports, citing co-worker Patrick Baccari, who said Farook “was gone for about a month in the spring, and when he returned word got around [he’d] had been married.” His new wife was described as “a pharmacist.” 

Now clearly there are no smoking guns there, but it's worth noting that when it comes to radicalization, no one does it quite like the Saudis. But as we read further, AP uncovers the smoking gun: "Several months ago Farook grew out his beard." There you go - excessive beard action. The terrorist hallmark. 

All sarcasm aside, AP goes on to say that according to coworkers, Farook was "a devout Muslim," and according to a profile posted on the dating site iMilap, Farook enjoyed "reading religious books and target practice with younger sister and friends."

A separate profile on Dubaimatrimonial.com (which describes itself as the "first and only legal marriage service provider in the UAE), shows Farook identifying himself as a Sunni:

Although we would urge caution when it comes to drawing conclusions around the sectarian divide, we'd be remiss if we didn't note that ISIS, al-Qaeda, and many of the other groups the public generally identifies with extremism, are Sunni. Saudi Arabia (where Farook allegedly found his wife) promotes puritanical Wahhabism. 

In the wake of the tragedy, Muzammil Siddiqi, religious director of The Islamic Society of Orange County, reminded Americans that Islam is not synonymous with terror: "Please do not implicate Islam or Muslims. Our faith is against this kind of behaviour."

Here’s Patrick Baccari’s (quoted above) account of the shooting, again, via AP:

Baccari, who was sitting at the same table as Farook, said employees at the holiday party were taking a break before snapping group photos when Farook suddenly disappeared, leaving a jacket draped over his chair. Baccari stepped out to the bathroom when he heard explosions.

 

"I'm getting pelted by shrapnel coming through the walls," he said. "We hit the ground."

 

The shooting lasted about five minutes, he said, and when he looked in the mirror he realized he was bleeding. He was hit by fragments in the body, face and arms.

 

"If I hadn't been in the bathroom, I'd probably be laying dead on the floor," he said.

Clearly, quite a bit hinges on whether or not this gets tied to radical Islam. If authorities "prove" (or create) a link to extremists, the backlash against Syrian immigrants and against American Muslims more generally, will only grow. 

Additionally, public support for American boots on Syrian ground will rise as any link to terrorist ideology will invariably be trotted out as "proof" that "lone wolf" or not, attacks have now crossed the pond to reach American soil.

Of course at the end of the day, two people opening fire with assault rifles on a holiday party seems pretty "terrifying" to us regardless of what inspired the shooters, but remember, crises like these are only "useful" in today's world if they serve someone's geopolitical ends so don't be surprised if the mainstream media soon turns up the San Bernardino equivalent of the forged Syrian passport found in Paris three weeks ago.

 

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Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:21 | 6870979 TVP
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Media coverage of this has been very different from the typical false flag terror incident.  They were showing all kinds of details they never show, and every civilian they attempted to interview acted as if they had been briefed not to say a word.  Usually they just tell you everything and say "trust us, we're the news".  They interview crisis actors and shit.  None of that this time around.   

This one seems a little different for some reason.  One thing's for sure, a massive push for new gun laws is coming.  

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:23 | 6870982 Panic Mode
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USA! USA! USA! 

Errh.... I think I got it wrong way round .....

NSA! NSA! NSA!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:26 | 6871002 vegas
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Global warming pushed them both over the edge since he had a job [thank you Maria Harf Barf, which by the way do you notice she hasn't been heard of since?].

 

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Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:28 | 6871016 Lexi_con
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I feel that I should mention at this point that witnesses at the scene actually remember seeing 3 white males wearing military gear there whom they believed to be the actual shooters. These men came in, started shooting, then they were gone. The Cabal likes to work like that, getting their paid mercenaries in and out of the false flag scene as fast as possible. This way, they can then set up the patsies, whom in this case, are Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik. The mainstream media takes every opportunity to point out that they are Muslim. They even say that Syed said, and I quote, "I try to live as a good Muslim". Obviously, the Cabal is still trying to get people even more upset about Muslims especially so soon after Paris. If they can get us to fight amongst ourselves even more (instead of going after the real enemy-the Cabal) and at the same time try to make another gun grab, the Cabal thinks that they MIGHT have a chance to further their agenda. Let's not give them that chance. Don't buy into what they're selling.  

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:40 | 6871092 insanelysane
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The Cabal says that the eye witnesses misremembered due to stress.  Video footage is not available in this modern public facility.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:28 | 6871021 LoveTruth
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164 Verses in the Qoran call for jihad.

I have not found a single one in it calling for "Love one another. Love your neighbor like yourself. Love your enemy."

For as long as those verses are part of the Qoran expect Islamic terrorism, especially from the devaouted muslims.

 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:47 | 6871123 besnook
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bs. if you want a real thrill read the talmud or the old testament. you abrahamics are fn nutz. the world needs some fundamentalist buddhists to destroy you.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:09 | 6871239 Buckaroo Banzai
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The old testament is descriptive about violence, not prescriptive. The violence described is typically limited to one-time historical events. There are no open-ended admonishments to "Kill or enslave the infidel" that you find all over the Koran.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:21 | 6871658 spooz
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I see plenty of prescriptive violence in the quotes I posted below that a Christian nut-job could lock onto, and regarding your 'kill the infidel' "quote":

"We know the Quran orders believers to fight in combat against those who are the oppressors, aggressors and terrorists and those who are assaulting and killing the innocent men, women and children. But it gives out clear orders - NOT TO Fight against those who are not fighting against you..."

http://www.justaskislam.com/32/does-islam-say-kill-the-infidels/

 

Gee, could our actions in the Middle East actually have negative consequences?  Hoocoodanode?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 19:24 | 6873185 Buckaroo Banzai
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Ha ha! You believe that shit? Maybe those sand niggers are illiterate then, because they've been invading foreign lands and taking the fight to the infidels FOR OVER 1400 YEARS.

Or maybe their book means exactly what it says.

You fucking child.

Fri, 12/04/2015 - 03:53 | 6874546 spooz
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And you are a knuckle-dragging racist dolt who obviously doesn't know any muslims that live peacefully in the US, happy to be living in a secular state that allows freedom of religion. Neo-nazi cretin.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:28 | 6872479 Dinero D. Profit
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Moses set a fantastic example of 'God' ordained genocidal slaughter in the Golden Calf affair. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:25 | 6872464 Dinero D. Profit
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Your 'love' Christianity did this: The Inquisition, the slaughter of 'savage' abroiginals in the New 
World, the enslavement of millions of 'sub-human' Africans  and...

 

 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:29 | 6871022 cheech_wizard
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San Bernardino police announced tonight that the Islamic killers who slaughtered 14 people at a community social services building were wearing GoPro cameras.

Standard Disclaimer: Film at 11?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:29 | 6871024 madashellron
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Well who would of guessed it. One report on news today said that he recently made a visit to Saudi Arabia.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:30 | 6871033 goldman58
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Brilliant plan these terrorists have, 2 of the rifles used in the horrible shooting in San Bernardino shooting were purchased legally - in a state with the strictest gun control laws in the nation..........

No one is saying where they got the 2 handguns though……….

So now not only does Nobama gets to disarm America and attack the second amendment, the terrorists get to continue their attacks, only in the future NO ONE will be able to defend themselves.

Brilliant if you think about it !!!!!!!!!!!!!

On one side a Muslim in the White Castle disarming us and on the other millions of Muslims planning and waiting to kill as many defenseless citizens as they can...........

And this was no 'Work Place Dispute' - THIS WAS PLANNED MONTHS IN ADVANCE ........................................

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:46 | 6871857 Bemused Observer
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Yes it was. And with all the data government is collecting, I'm sure they'll get around to processing the relevant info in about, say, 480 years or so. After they've filtered through all the other 900 billion bits of data in the queue.

Our "intelligence community" needs to get off their ASSES, get away from the 'shiny screens', and get back to fucking WORK here!

Defund these data-collecting bullshit operations and get intel folks ON THE GROUND, doing their JOBS and leave the tech-toys alone!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:37 | 6871081 insanelysane
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As someone already pointed out:  6 month old baby + 9 month pregnancy = 15 months.  Brought home new wife this year; 11 months max.  2+2=5

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:38 | 6871085 Herdee
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Where it all starts is in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan where they have schools that teach children from the time they are very young the extreme teachings of Wahhabism.This extremism of what's taught in Saudi Arabia has moved through just about every Sunni Mosque that there is.It is not the Muslim faith.The CIA and Saudi Intelligence use those that are brainwashed from the time they are young to go and fight for government causes.Make no mistake,the U.S. government,the British,French,Germans,Canadians and most other western countries are the best of friends and literal bum buddies with these bloody assholes.President Obama recently hosted the King of Saudi Arabia,who permits the beheading of people the killing and abuse of women and the exporting of terrorism worldwide with the President himself,the CIA and the NeoCons running the State Department openly approving this disgusting garbage.One of the most filthy,sickening scenes was witnessed when former President Bush was openly scene walking and holding hands with the King of Saudi Arabia( the Wahhabi butcher).When the American public sees their leaders associating with murderers,you know you've got a problem.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:39 | 6871086 El_Puerco
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C/P:

 

The center this happened at has had so many active shooter drills lately that employees just thought it was another drill. There were no roadblocks set up which is very strange if this was real. Local news channels were there, reporting live, WAY TOO FAST, (proving foreknowledge) yet there was a huge delay in getting the news out via larger channels of up to 7 hours, which is why I missed this until now. WHY THAT HUGE TIME DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAJOR NEWS OUTLETS AND LOCAL NEWS?}

 

Who knows?!...

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:40 | 6871094 bigbwana
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All you neeed is Love. baby. Louis Armstrong. Love baby, Love. On the 12/12. at 1212, open your hearts to Love! The Dark Matrix will crumble in the blink of an eye! It is the will of God! 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:48 | 6871129 Bloodstock
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Another drill in the area, another false flag. What bullshit!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:52 | 6871148 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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In the Land of the Slave, & Home of the Indentured into Servitude, unemployment is a death sentence for the unemployed, and the people that surround them. In this case, one job lost turned out to equal 16 lives lost.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:54 | 6871169 loveyajimbo
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If muslims really did reject this sort of violence... then why don't the ten or twenty top mullahs in the world all do fatwahs that say that any muslim terrorist/radical islamist who murders will burn in hell for all eternity?  Yeah... I didn't think so.

 

DEPORT THEM ALL

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:22 | 6871673 spooz
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Maybe because "murder" is justified in a war?  Like when somebody is bombing/droning your country, killing innocent women and children?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:54 | 6871170 dsty
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Have some Russian Christian friends who shared with me these things would happen, that was 10 years ago

Because of the warnings dreams God gave them they moved to a remote area in my state near the Canadian border

First one was that the US border would be suddenly closed and no one could go either way

The 2nd was a large group of Ameicans walking up a valley, the wife saw that some Muslims where shooting the people walking buy

The people ignored it and kept walking, the family left this crowd and was not able to take their belongings

The last one was that of a giant policeman, in other words, the police would be given great power

It seems to me that these warning dreams are coming true

Some of you know what I mean, you need to pay attention if God warns you this way

Don't listen to the flakes here  who have no understanding of why these thngs are happening

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:00 | 6871175 dizzyfingers
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Videos please. You know, eyeball proof?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 12:57 | 6871180 Chuckster
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People!..You did put an African gay Muslim in the white house.  What did you think was going to happen?  Where are our Christian nutcases?  They need to come forward and get this show going.  I can't understand so few victims.  Two shooters with semi-autos and minimal damage...It's a good thing I wasn't involved but it raises an issue.  This was meant to be a terrorizing act.  Hold on tight...there has to be a lot more coming.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:15 | 6871273 Buckaroo Banzai
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Killing people in an office building is a lot more difficult than killing people in a church, or in a school. Schools have long hallways, big classrooms, big open areas like cafeterias and auditoriums-- good sight lines and little concealment or cover. Modern places of business are composed of cube farms and small offices offering poor sight lines and lots of opportunities for concealment and cover. Given that you only have a few minutes to get your shooting done, you simply aren't going to be very effective in a modern workplace.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:18 | 6871285 IridiumRebel
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Installation.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:28 | 6871345 atthelake
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Defense

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:24 | 6871692 spooz
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The Planned Parenthood shooter gives every indication of being a Christian nutcase.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:38 | 6872528 Dinero D. Profit
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Well, when ~I~ put George Bush in the White House I expected 9/11, I expected the MIC to accuse Saddam Hussein of WMD's, I expected an Axis of Evil, I expected the FED quadrupling down on debt policy, I expected it all.  

 

"Grasshoper.... Always expect the unexpeccted...."

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:01 | 6871188 Armed Resistance
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Same old song and dance: Schedule active shooter drill in the area. Make the event go live. Instill fear in the viewer/reader. Offer a solution (common sense gun control).

Furthermore, we now get to whip up the left/right paradigm and the Christian/Muslim paradigm to keep everybody distracted as the economy collapses. Then your rights are stripped and the country continues to be stolen by the elite. Did I miss anything?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:12 | 6871256 PoasterToaster
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Good call.  In the end they can only steal from their own power base, cannibalizing it.  Those who operate outside the collapsing US State's reach will weather the storm.  This is the urban (Statist) rural (possible escapee) divide that pundits have been preaching for some time now.

Stay out of cities when things start getting rougher.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:01 | 6871191 PoasterToaster
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Motive? 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:07 | 6871227 Sir John Bagot Glubb
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Insanity.  Anyone who would put a suicide mission of slaughtering a bunch of people over loving and raising their 6 month old baby isn't worth trying to analyze or figure out.  Isn't worth it.  There is no rational answer with insanity.  

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:10 | 6871246 PoasterToaster
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Not good enough.  Insane people do not plan and execute operations.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:24 | 6871324 Sir John Bagot Glubb
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Sure they can.  Insane people can contemplate a goal and try to achieve it.  It is the goal that isn't grounded in reality.  

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:26 | 6871335 Kprime
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you mean like our young men in the military going over to die for chevrons right to extract oil?  In the process leaving behind young wives and children.  All instigated, coordinated, and paid for by the asshole in chief and the MIC.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:05 | 6871213 Armed Resistance
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The initial report was that it was three white men in camouflage wearing body armor and ski masks...

They need better crisis actors to feed the media.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:08 | 6871232 Charles Offdensen
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Funny how I've never heard of anyone who have shot up other places screaming "JESUS IS LORD"! Kinda makes those that claim Christianity is just as violent as Islam look ridiculous.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:39 | 6871409 spooz
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Funny, how I didn't hear anything about these shooters screaming anything about Islam either.  Just because there are religious wars going on in the Middle East (and Christianity also has its share of Holy Wars in its history, including IRA violence still going on in Ireland) doesn't mean the religion is violent.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:00 | 6871545 Charles Offdensen
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Nadal hasan, the zarniev's did however. Just because the media hasn't reported doesn't mean it didn't happen. Also I don't remember the abortion shooting having anything to do with religious invocation other than the guy made the statement about no more baby body parts. If I'm wrong so be it.

However one religion doesn't care if you are for against abortio. Or not. If u aren't Muslim than peace will not be upon you!

Learn it, live it, love it!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:29 | 6871716 spooz
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Nadal Hasan was an American nutjob,  seems to have gone crazy after years of listening to the stories of American soldiers he was working with as a psychiatrist. Maybe all the collateral damage stories he tried to smooth over finally got to him. He had no link to any terrorist group.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:42 | 6871420 InnVestuhrr
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The christians don't shout - eg Tim MvVeigh, abortion clinic shooters, etc

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 21:59 | 6873716 Prince Eugene o...
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The False McVeigh

Christians state a belief in Jesus Christ and accept him as our Savior. Then they try to live a life consistent with His teaching. It's pretty simple. McVeigh did neither of those things.

The reference explaining McVeigh's motives was written by Lou Michel. Read it before republishing indiscriminate libel. Conflating Christianity with Islam is about as despicable as it gets.

http://www.tektonics.org/guest/mcveigh.htm

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:42 | 6872540 Dinero D. Profit
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The crew of the Enola Gay said, almost aloud, "JESUS IS LORD!"

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:09 | 6871242 BlueViolet
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When the false flag white man does it at the abortion clinic, it's not terrorism. But when the false flag is waved with Muslim sounding name, watch out for the boogey men>>> wp.me/p4OZ4v-tt

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:09 | 6871243 PoasterToaster
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The part I like the best is the desciption in the state media of armed with "long guns".  For years now it has been an NRA and gun enthusiast talking point that crimes are committed with handguns, and the number of crimes committed with rifles is negligible.  The term "long guns" comes directly from this propaganda argument.

The dirty bastards are moving their gun grabbing agenda forward no matter what.  Let's see what happens.

 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:35 | 6871759 Bemused Observer
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I'm glad someone else noticed that...it struck me as weird, they kept repeating the phrase.

All I could think of though was muskets. It just sounded like such an archaic type of phrase. Not something the average person would say. 99% of people would say they had rifles...NOT "long guns" like this was the 1800's.

It sounds so much like a 'planted' phrase.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:11 | 6871251 Itchy and Scratchy
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Anybuddy know if the Kenyan is either Sunni or Shia?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:22 | 6871304 Sir John Bagot Glubb
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Neither.  He's a Climate Change Communist.  

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:30 | 6871722 Itchy and Scratchy
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lol Environmental Episcopalian lol

 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:23 | 6871258 Kprime
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I scanned some of the American fucked up media reports.  I thot I saw this was a government employee holiday party.  I pray it was and I pray all they killed were government employees. If so, it could not have happened to a more fitting group.  Terrorists killed by terrorist.  I know the Muslims didn't plan to bless American citizens but if it proves to be true, it couldn't be a better xmas gift to the American public.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:07 | 6871581 Vuke
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Kprime, I guarantee you've made "the list" today.   I agree goverment employees are almost universally useless, but hatred is the root of all violence, whether Muslim or domestic.  Get a grip on your emotions and study what, exactly, makes you feel good about some being killed.  There are plenty of alternatives to violence that can affect government idiocy. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:20 | 6872435 Kprime
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Not hate, more like laughing when I spray for cockroaches.  But, let me get back to you when I finish digging through the entire history of man and come up with the name of the government that reduced its size, reduced taxes, lived within a real budget and gave back the freedoms it had confiscated from it's servants, all voluntarily of course.  There could be one.  Let me see if I can name one that accomplished even one of those actions.

Governments are the most violent groups on the planet, always have been, always will be.  Everything they do is at the point of a gun.  When they murder, which is everyday, they say, "just doing my job" or "just a little collateral damage."  Governments never change without bloodshed.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:48 | 6872566 Dinero D. Profit
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You sound like Sisyphus.   My free advice: acquire the habit of smoking pot. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 19:29 | 6873208 Vuke
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LOL. Have to agree with much of what you say. The millions of Russian, Chinese and European dead would applaude. But does killing them even the score?  Starve the Beast should be the call.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:12 | 6871259 the grateful un...
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it was all a bit strange, apparently there were some humorous asides, the newsmen ask questions the viewers can't hear, and the chief smiles and even laughs? what could that question have been. on the local feed it was pretty light, they were editing and looping footage, giving the appearance of live coverage, it was not. there were a lot of people in the street taking triage but there is no blood, a women with a large cloth wrapped around her hand, walking calmly as can be. it was almost like it was a drill. when something new happened it made you wonder, because they kept looping the images, how long have they had this? where did they find all those swat guys and nat guard so quickly? (and doesnt it take a state of emergency to activate military personnel?)
the shooters planned their escape, but poorly. bank robbery 101 you have a second car parked a few blocks away. then you drive away far away to some place in the desert where you and your jihadist buddies dance around the fire. i dont know what the media and government is selling but so far this isnt it.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:15 | 6871269 PoasterToaster
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The arrogant SOB's who planned this false flag are so cocky that they think they can force everyone to believe a young mother just went crazy for jihad, suited up and shot up a place of no consequence.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:15 | 6871272 SuburbanMuppet
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The Religion of Peace strikes again.  Maybe if we let in 100,000 more of them in next year, they will start to like us better...........

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:21 | 6871300 Itchy and Scratchy
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Keep on bombin' them and they will adore us!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:19 | 6871289 Sir John Bagot Glubb
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I am curious.  If Captain Zero, the HildeBeast, Bernie the Economist, and Statesman Harry Reid go house to house and take away all our guns, and then these tragic incidents continue to occur, who are they going to blame?  

How will they blame pencils for misspelled words when there are no longer any pencils?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:56 | 6872605 Dinero D. Profit
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The psy-ops will continue until the lumpen masses (reduced by fastastic factor0 are in awe of One World, One Government, One Currency, One Rothschild Central Planning Committee. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:20 | 6871292 Winston Smith 2009
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For anyone other than those directly affected, a below microscopic blip in US death statitsics, even just US gun death statistics, so IGNORE and move on. Or, remain on the idiotic mainstream dipshit wagon and talk about gun grabbing and a desire for a more effective police state.

Much ado about a statistical nothing.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:20 | 6871293 Itchy and Scratchy
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Kardashian wanna-bees!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:22 | 6871311 Kprime
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Fucking laughing my asss off.  Where was the great and almighty satan the NSA????  Too busy jacking off to porn to keep up with all those phone calls.  Evidently planned well in advance, but no warning, no security, no FBI, no NSA, no jack shit government military/police force anywhere to save their own.  Just a bunch of armed janitors coming in to mop up.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:59 | 6872624 Dinero D. Profit
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The NSA is terribly busy collecting pre-crime (dissident) data bases.  ... What they do, see, is comb chat rooms and blogs for likely suspects. 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:23 | 6871314 atthelake
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I know a Muslim. She has worked, hard, all her life. Was born here, got a good education and is making a good living. She is not stupid enough to throw it all away on this kind of bullshit. Just saying, not all of them are bad.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:47 | 6871455 hotrod
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but you dont know who is and who isnt and NO amount of vetting can determine that.  With devout Muslims it is generally their religous way or death.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:07 | 6872655 Dinero D. Profit
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Before Civilization I don't know, but after Civilization humankind is a fine example of law abiding citizens in pursuit of prosperity....

...until now, when Civilization is unsustainable.  

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 21:27 | 6873615 Prince Eugene o...
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Islam deserves no credit for the Muslims who ignore the calls to Jihad.

Apostates are corrupted by exposure to Western Civilization, not by any Renaissance of Islam.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:25 | 6871326 lasvegaspersona
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Daily Mail reports 'automatic weapons'. Anyone know if this is just the usual media hysteria and lack of knowledge about firearms or did the jihadis actually have full auto?

If they had full auto the trail will heat up in a hurry. If they were smuggled in then we have an international incident.

Probably they were semi auto though and the media is just cooperating with Obama to #stopgunzviolence.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:17 | 6872423 I Write Code
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The suggestion in the press conference is that they were stock semi-auto civilian versions.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:27 | 6871340 jomama
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This reeks of a setup to high hell.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:28 | 6871343 keed
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im sick and tired of these fuckin islam leaders saying islam is peaceful.  just because a percentage of Muslims aren't violent just means they leave that part out of their religion. the 'extremists'  follow EXACTLY WHAT THE QURAN TELLS THEM TO DO.  why arent people quoting the quran and publicly parading the violence verses that it calls for? 76:4, 3:151, 4:56, 4:89, 2:54, 8:12 & 8:13, 9:29, 4:15, 3:118, 2:223, 9:73, 2:96, 9:38 & 9:39, 8:55, 2:23 & 2:24, 22:19-22:22,  5:51, 4:34, 98:6, 5:38.   Everyone should download the quran English version and read these verses and shove it in the face of every "islam non violence"  idiot out there.  wake the fuck up people.. its right there in words written for all to see! 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:09 | 6872668 Dinero D. Profit
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The Koran makes itself its own patsy as well as a patsy for others.

 

Think vastly for vast conclusions.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:30 | 6871352 Charles Offdensen
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I wonder if any of the guns used were from fast and furious?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 20:49 | 6873489 Kprime
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Nah they were from the gun stash air dropped to AL-Qaida in Iraq, our military's former cover story or mis-direction dummy, so they would fight ISIS, the military's new cover story.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:37 | 6871393 gregga777
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What other motivation could there possibly be besides Radical Islam? I'm waiting…

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:36 | 6871765 Sir John Bagot Glubb
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Syed suffered from one too many "microagressions" at work.  His feelings were hurt.  Isn't that all that matters these days?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:10 | 6872675 Dinero D. Profit
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Farook U.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 20:44 | 6873472 Kprime
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Radical Islam is not a motivation, it's a state of mind.  Radical Islam as a state of mind does not require a motivation for killing.  It just goes with the territory; it's just something you do.  Your wife overcooked your eggs, kill her.  Your daughter put on lipstick, kill her.  The waiter expected a tip, kill her.  Teacher marked you tardy for being 30 seconds late, kill her.  You didn't get invited to the Christmas party cuz ur muslim, or you did get invited to the Christmas party even though you are muslim; kill them all.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:39 | 6871408 J Mahoney
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Was this shooting linked to terror? -- Hell no, it was because of a video

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:40 | 6871410 css1971
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“Was there a link to terror?”

No, no link to terror. It's just how muslims deal with conflict.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:49 | 6872569 Bastiat
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It wasn't terrorism: it was an emphatic assertion of the basic right to feel safe in your cultural identity.  How can you feel safe surrounded by infidels?  Everyone has a right to feel safe.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 20:38 | 6873450 Kprime
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you are right, very PC.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:13 | 6872697 Dinero D. Profit
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I was impressed by how the Muslims dealt with Building 7.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:45 | 6871449 spacemonkey99
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I wonder if he had a Toyota Hilux

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:50 | 6871483 moonmac
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1970’s: An Ice Age will kill us!

1980’s: Greenhouse Effect will kill us!

1990’s: Hole In Ozone Layer will kill us!

2000’s: Global Warming will kill us!

2010’s: Climate Change will kill us!

2020’s: Muslims detonating nukes will kill us! (this one is true)

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:50 | 6871487 TEOTWAIKI
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After reading all the comments and cogitating on the discrepancies in the story I realized that this whole affair is an alligorical Christmas Story.

The three white guys that shot every one and got out of Dodge are the Three Wise Men.
(they got off Scot free)

The Muslim Pakistani woman is Mary; immaculatly conceiving and after a very short pregnancy giving birth to the little brown child.

The Muslim Pakastani Chicagoan that grew a biblical beard was of course Joseph; the non-father of the little brown child.

The Muslim Kenyan is the God-like figure; passing judgement on the gun-toting Pharisees.

The policemen are the Roman soldiers who will eventually kill the little brown child who must die for the sins of his parents.

The peaceful, innocent people shot are of course the shepherds and the people who believe the Christmas party story are the sheep and asses.

 

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:01 | 6871549 corporatewhore
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dude, don't bogart the joint.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 20:37 | 6873445 Kprime
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I gave you a thumbs up, now pass the roach you damn double toker.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 13:56 | 6871516 conraddobler
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The curse of living in interesting times.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:05 | 6871559 atthelake
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Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:05 | 6871573 IProtectYou
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Apparently the neighbors were aware that something was not right, but were afraid to report it for not being called racists. So these poor people would still be alive, if the politically correct, bloody dogooder fascists would shut up!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:24 | 6871693 jomama
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Citation needed.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:06 | 6871577 InnVestuhrr
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Malik was pregnant loooooong before she married Farook because she had been previously married and impregnated by another islamic cult fighter who was KIA. Farook volunteered to be the replacement jihad-wannabe hubby.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:42 | 6871809 Sir John Bagot Glubb
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So did he get to have sexual intercourse with her at least once or not before he died?  That's my big concern...........

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:55 | 6871925 InnVestuhrr
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Yes, after officially married, she showed him how to get it up and in, that was how she was able to control him and turn him jihadi.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:16 | 6872716 Dinero D. Profit
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Sounds like a perfect Mossad set up to me.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:07 | 6871580 joe6px
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Wait, I was told three white guys did the shooting...

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 20:36 | 6873437 Barrack Chavez
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The FBI agent that was helping them doesn't count, so only two.

Remember when two other idiots from FL were going to bomb the Sears Tower, but it turned out they couldn't find the end of their street? The towers were actually cased by, and the fake bombs built by, an FBI agent working under cover...

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:14 | 6871626 Fuku Ben
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This event is just more of the same old bs. Anyone blaming all Islam or all Muslims might as well be blaming all gun owners. You're falling for the same old crap.

If you want to know who is responsible and why just read the stories, pull out the facts and figures and work it out. It is all right in front of you. The signature on this one is too obvious.

If I get over 100 up votes and over 100 replies on this comment with each one stating why they want to learn something I'll take the time to type some of it out. But I'm confident that won't happen. Most would rather make snap judgements, generalizations and post 1 liners.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:49 | 6872573 Bazza McKenzie
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Mahommedanism was founded by a violent man who produced a "religion" and governance system that legitimises violence.

Other major religions, such as Christianity and Buddhism, were founded by non violent people preaching non violence.  Emulate Christ or Buddha and you will hurt no one.  Emulate mohammed and you will steal, kill, rape, torture, destroy.

Ye, the problem is mahommedanism.  You cannot take the founder out of the religion.  So mahommedanism will always provide a rationale and duty of violence for anyone inclined to violence.

Incidentally, a religion is a system of belief.  A gun is a tool, not a system of belief, so equating gun ownership with believing in a particular religion is nonsense.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:21 | 6872736 Dinero D. Profit
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People have three lives.  The Public life, the Private life, and the Secret life.

 

Governments have three lives, so too Globalists.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:14 | 6871629 gregga777
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"1In the wake of the tragedy, Muzammil Siddiqi, religious director of The Islamic Society of Orange County, reminded Americans that Islam is not synonymous with terror: "Please do not implicate Islam or Muslims. Our faith is against this kind of behaviour.""

Really? The Islamic faith is against that kind of behavior? Does Mr. Siddiqi want us to believe that the Saudi Arabian state sponsorship of Islamic Wahhabi terrorism is not Islamic? If so, then he should publicly denounce Saudi Arabia and their support of the Wahhabis and declare that they are not representative of the Islamic faith.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:32 | 6871733 idontcare
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Surah 9:5 isn't violent?  Hmmmm.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:23 | 6872744 Dinero D. Profit
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Noah's Great Flood was rather violent.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:00 | 6872626 o r c k
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gregga777   Very good. Your observation should be given every time the subject is brought up. If it's face to face the Muslim will either change the subject, start yelling " Allens snack bar" or will simply kill every person around.  The point being that if they agree to the observation (that Wahabbism terror is wrong)  they will eventually be killed themselves or will be denied lots of virgins up in Allahs eternal sleep-over. This is true of every Muslim.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 21:41 | 6873656 Prince Eugene o...
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Wahhabism Is Classic Islam

All observant Muslims are unified against us, the infidels. Islamic terrorists follow one interpretation of Islam, Mohammad's. The Islam of eighteenth century Mohammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab is ordinary Western-hating Islam. The main reason the term “Wahhabism” is used is to avoid the word “Islam.” —(Hat tip to the ex-Muslim) Bosch Fawstin

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:18 | 6871646 Grin Bagel
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All, repeat, ALL, religions are based on lies.

Keep the circle jerking.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:31 | 6871727 iamrefreshed
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Geek who's never been laid goes to Saudia Arabia and finds radical nutjob broad. Discovers pussy. Will do whatever she says to keep the pussy flowing.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:35 | 6871756 Noplebian
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Yet another false flag event to advance the gun control agenda......

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/road-to-ww3-time-to...

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:38 | 6871778 Sir John Bagot Glubb
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Except this is real.  

It would have been a false flag event if the shooters had reputedly been Timothy McVeigh-types, particularly when the victims were government employees.  Then you'd really have the Left squawking about "militia-type terrorists."  

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:50 | 6871896 PoasterToaster
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False flag is not the same as hoax.  People can be killed in false flags. 

But then, what do we know about any of the victims yet? And do we really believe a young mother drops her baby off and goes to an office party, then executes some commando raid?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:42 | 6872543 Bazza McKenzie
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You have entirely missed his point.  If Obama wants anyone implicated in mass murder it is white Americans.  The last people he wants implicated are muslims.

He does not want the public saying "Stop muslims immigration. No Syrian 'refugees'".  But that's what this attack will give him.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:16 | 6872719 PoasterToaster
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You've missed the point.  Obama is absolutely unimportant in any of this.

Back to the point, the Deep State will continue to lie in the press about this and go forward with their war plans when a Republican is in the White House.  The process will accelerate, and there will be a war.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:31 | 6872764 Dinero D. Profit
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Well, why not?  This is how Lee Harvey behaved.  After his sniper shot, he went to the canteen on the 4th floor for a soda pop, and then he walked out into Dealy plaza, and he took a bus to his neighborhood, where he shot a cop, after which he took in an matinee movie.

 

... then.... Suddenly! Jack Ruby put Oswald out of his misery!

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:36 | 6871762 farmboy
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I will gladly do some crowd funding to develop a deadly beard scruff.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:33 | 6872778 Dinero D. Profit
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This entire beard growing thing is to hide a weak chin.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:37 | 6871763 farmboy
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x

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:39 | 6871783 dizzyfingers
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https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/yes-time-gun-control/ Government employees with guns have killed hundreds of millions. San Bernadino, committed by a harasser of restaurants for the county, is just the latest example. It’s time, for the public good, to disarm all these actual and potential killers.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:40 | 6871798 viator
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How about a picture of Miss, or should I say Mrs., Jihad.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:47 | 6871873 dsty
Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:59 | 6871949 dsty
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she looks kind of white to me

I guess that's what happens when ya'll go to Saudi Arabia

or hang out with muzzies

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 15:10 | 6872034 viator
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Thank you

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:37 | 6872521 Bazza McKenzie
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Appears to be wearing an Indian sari.  Certainly not a hijab.  Very strange.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:44 | 6871836 viator
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That's what you get when you don't pass the onion dip fast enough at a Christmas party.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:54 | 6871923 insanelysane
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Maybe he found out he was eating Kosher?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:36 | 6872785 Dinero D. Profit
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The Rabbi pisses on stuff to make it kosher is a silly rumor.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 14:55 | 6871928 PoasterToaster
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If terror is the reason, why do they attack completely unimportant targets?  If someone is angry with the US Government, why do they attack unimportant people?

None of these "terrorists" ever attack the US Government for what it does to their countries, which is the supposed reason they exist.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 15:05 | 6871997 goldman58
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Why would they attack the government? The USA government is their greatest ally - with their leader in the White Castle as their greatest support...........

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 15:00 | 6871960 MrTerry
Thu, 12/03/2015 - 15:01 | 6871963 dizzyfingers
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..."according to a profile posted on the dating site iMilap, Farook enjoyed "reading religious books and target practice with younger sister and friends."

 

So did gov agencies know that?

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 15:09 | 6872000 dizzyfingers
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..."quite a bit hinges on whether or not this gets tied to radical Islam."

Isn't the most radical (said to be) that of Saudi Arabia, our "friends"? Sunni fights Shia fights Wahabbi and others, and around and around?

 

"His new wife was described as “a pharmacist.”   Pharmacists are chemists.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 15:07 | 6872012 Kozakman
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Uh the Shia Muslims are just as bat shit crazy in their own way.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 15:48 | 6872264 dizzyfingers
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Probably true. Like many religions.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 17:41 | 6872805 Dinero D. Profit
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I believe in the Book of George Carlin.  George Carlin, along with Friar Tuck, shows us the way.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 15:15 | 6872073 dizzyfingers
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MILITANT ISLAM, G. H. Jansen, published 1979

Interesting read.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 15:38 | 6872219 Good bi bull
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The Hegelian Dialectic is, in short, the critical process by which the ruling elite create a problem, anticipating in advance the reaction that the population will have to the given crisis, and thus conditioning the people that a change is needed. When the population is properly conditioned, the desired agenda of the ruling elite is presented as the solution. The solution isn't intended to solve the problem, but rather to serve as the basis for a new problem or exacerbate the existing one.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 15:41 | 6872225 Luther van Theses
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U.S./British/French imperialism invade and destroy country after country, in cahoots with Israeli Zionism. Children are murdered by the invaders in front of their parents, parents in front of their children, thousands and thousands and thousands of times. It's called terrorism. The perpetrators are our troops, the guilty are our policymakers.

Jihadi John, move over. You are a punk. Meet the big terrorists, Paul Wolfowitz, Robert D. Kaplan, Dick Cheney. Et cetera. And don't forget the boardroom high commanders of Big Oil.

I blame the left and peace forces for taking so little action. (There are a few honorable exceptions.) Few among them have ever come to any real understanding of the war against Iraq, of imperialism versus national sovereignty.

Nobody protests. Nobody cares. With so little clearly understood struggle against imperialism coming from the left, what do you expect?

Those who feel ties of blood are consumed with anger against imperialist terrorism. What do you expect?

They travel to the very cesspool of Medieval barbarism, our great U.S. ally, Saudi Arabia. They accept training in the methods of terrorism. What do you expect?

Our so-called security services cannot protect us against the Da'esh. They and the barbarian Saudi princes are the wellspring of the Da'esh.

So long as capitalist imperialism exists, there will be terrorism.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 16:01 | 6872342 Lucky Leprachaun
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Correct and those you mention are war criminals of the worst kind. But still we wouldn't be having those attacks on our soil had not our own traitors opened the floodgate to Muslims and the Third World in general.

Thu, 12/03/2015 - 15:54 | 6872291 insanelysane
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Imagine the woodies terrorists, gang bangers, and criminals get.  Every time they attack law abiding citizens, the government believes the solution is to disarm the law abiding citizens.  Why stop attacking.

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