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DMV Releases Photo Of "Radicalized" Mass Shooter After Weapons Trove Found In House
Update: DMV officials have released a driver's license photo of Syed Rizwan Farook.
Earlier today, we profiled Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, the couple who stormed a San Bernardino County holiday party with two assault rifles, killing 14 and wounding 21 more in the deadliest mass shooting America has seen since Sandy Hook.
While the jury is still out on possible motives, Farook did travel to Saudi Arabia before marrying Malik, a Pakistan native who apparently taveled to the US after Farook's trip to the Mid-East.
While that certainly doesn't qualify as conclusive evidence, we did note earlier that according to several profiles Farook set up on dating sites, he identified himself as Sunni and when it comes to radicalizing Sunni Muslims, the Saudis and their brand of puritanitcal Wahhabism are second to none. Of course the connection to the Mid-East is itself enough to arouse suspicion among an American public that's now hyper-sensistive to Islamic extremism in the wake of the Paris attacks and thanks to fact that the issue has been politicized by Presidential candidates on both sides of the aisle. Reuters says Farook came back into the US in 2014 and also traveled to Pakistan "at one point."
Here's what we said earlier:
Of course at the end of the day, two people opening fire with assault rifles on a holiday party seems pretty "terrifying" to us regardless of what inspired the shooters, but remember, crises like these are only "useful" in today's world if they serve someone's geopolitical ends so don't be surprised if the mainstream media soon turns up the San Bernardino equivalent of the forged Syrian passport found in Paris three weeks ago.
Sure enough, CNN now reports that Farook was "apparently radicalized" and was "in touch with people being investigated by the FBI for international terrorism." Similarly, NBC says Farook was in contact with "overseas individuals." The FBI now says Farook communicated with people who were on the bureau's radar in connection with a terrorism investigation. Officials also said the contact was with "people who weren't significant players," and was dated. There was no documentation of any "surge" in communication prior to the shooting.
We now know that Malik had a Pakistani passport and came to the U.S. on a fiancee visa. Farook entered the US with Malik in July of 2014. The FBI reportedly "doesn't know all of the countries" Farook visited. AP reports that in order to get the visa, Malik "had to submit to an in-person interview and biometric and background checks to ensure she wasn't a threat to public safety or national security."
According to The NY Times, the FBI is now treating the shooting as a terrorism case.
CNN also says investigators are analyzing an apparent "bomb lab" at Farook's residence. Authorities have reportedly discovered "hundreds" of tools that could be used to make IEDs.
As reported earlier, the couple used a DPMS model and a Smith & Wesson M&P 15 along with two handguns - a llama and a Smith & Wesson - in the attack. The rifles, two .223s, are capable of piercing bulletproof vests. The weapons were purchased legally.
Farook and Malik also placed a "device" consisting of three connected pipe bombs at the scene. Apparently, the remote detonator failed. 65-75 rounds were fired in the initial attack. 76 additional shots were fired at officers.
Found in the suspects' home:
- 2,500 .223 rounds
- 2,000 9mm rounds
- 12 pipe bombs
Found in the black SUV:
- 1,400 .223 rounds
- 200 9mm rounds
The trove of weapons police discovered indicated that the pair were "armed for a second attack."
Additionally, AP has the following account of Farook's family history:
The records obtained Thursday by The Associated Press show that Syed Farook's mother, Rafia, described her husband in 2006 as "irresponsible, negligent and an alcoholic."
She said she was forced to move out of her home with three of her children because her husband continually harassed her "verbally and physically and refused to leave the home."
She filed a no-contact, stay-away domestic violence protection petition on July 3, 2006. She alleged that same year that her husband attacked her while her kids were present, dropped a TV on her and pushed her toward a car.
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Oh, this ought to be good. What fairytales are they going to tell the masses today?
We the sheeple wait for Odoublespeak to explain it all...
I just want to know if it's safe to put away the scissors and come out from under my desk yet. Really gotta take a leak.
Thousands fired?
Perps fired 4-6x20 rd mags, cops emptied Painless into the SUV.
pods
(and Molotov, this was a Bear Gryllis drink your pee moment if there ever was one)
Pic of the wife? Hijab?
Where'd #3 shooter disappear to?
Did the GoPro get uploaded to the cloud between mass killing and the final shootout?
#3 shooter was allowed to escape so he could dawn his FBI vest and gear to investigate the crime.
Motive missing?
Great bolshy yarblockos, Tyler.
3400 rounds of 223 isn't that much...
pic of Tashfeen Malik?
https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/syed-rizwan-farook...
Hubby no beard, wife no hijab.
Old photo if actual.
Pre-radicalization.
No passport, no driver's license of wife?
Hijab.
Is ammo considered a weapon?
....And the family "had no idea".....
Waterboard their asses first.......
Easy Donald...
A few thousand rounds?
Spangler, love the user name. Rubicon was an excellent show. I bet there was a bit too much truth to allow it to continue. Good luck trying to buy a copy of it. No where to be found. Amazon says it has it but once you go to get it amazon give you the temporally un-available. Its been temporally un-available for over a year now.
Wait a second... How did this happen with all the NSA et al surveillance going on??
If France is any guide, they NSA was busy reading https encrypted web pages and the perps just texted each other.
Or... they could have not even bothered... cuz [gasp] how could someone be smart enough not use a NSA spy brick.
Basically, this will be about everything except race.
This is such a made up fairy tale that even on ZH the total killed and wounded have changed from 31 at 9:44 to 35 in this article. Did they kill more people after they were dead?
Oh, well equipped to carry out another attack? They must have had those new magazines that can be reloaded, unlike the ones that Congresswoman was recently talking about that you have to throw away once you fire all the rounds.
Initially, the dude wanted a jewish wife.
But since they wouldn't belly dance for him.. he went to Saudi Arabia for one. He missed on that one
http://goo.gl/1iqJP3
Wait, he had Pipe Bombs?!?!
We need a law to make Pipe Bombs illegal and close the Pipe Bomb show loophole!
Yeah! And half of those injured or killed might still be alive if it wasn't Take Your Wife to Work Day - outlaw those, too!
Found in the suspects' home:
FFS ~ Until I took them out on the fishing trip this past summer & lost them when my canoe capsized, I had about 10x that number stashed somewhere...
I guess that makes me a terrorist!
well the good news is that all those trillions spent on the security-industrial complex intelligence state kept all those folks in San Bernadino from harm.
Gov: Not sure if it was terrorism? Meaning: If it was, we missed it.
The Daily Mail has outed the guy Farook was having the office spat with:
Syed Farook, 28, got into a heated argument with colleague Nicholas Thalasinos, a Messianic Jew who was identified today as one of the victims of Wednesday’s rampage.Thalasinos identified Farook by name and told her the 28-year-old believed Islam was a peaceful religion. She added that Farook said that Americans do not understand Islam.
Thalasinos was passionate about pro-Israel causes and was known to rant about Islam on Facebook.
The New York Post reported that Thalasinos' Facebook page was filled with negative comments about Muslims and references to his conservative beliefs.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3344350/Devout-Muslim-citizen-Sa...
at least his father noted that he was a devout muslim..
devout to what ?
devout to Islam
devout to the Koran
We all know Muslims are crazy. And we all know that eventually they'll kill us all. It's impossible to fight them. So you might as well have fun because you're pretty much living on borrowed time. Pork and alcohol for everyone.
Naw, just remove the Jews from power and then ban the immirgration of potential "freedom fighters" along with "terrorists".
The photo linked above which shows a seemingly blue eyed woman in some cultural garb is NOT the dead female shooter.
That male in the photo is Syed RAHEEL Farooq, brother of Syed RAWFIQ Farooq (shooter). He apparently goes by the name Raheel.
The woman in the photo is not the female shooter, it is Tatiana, Raheel's wife.
Is there even a single picture (other than dead on the street) of the wife/shooter?
.gov has at least the female shooter's visa photo and driver's license but they likely show her in traditional religious garb which "doesn't fit the narrative".
DAILY
MAIL
JEWISH
OWNED
don't feed the porn trolls
Technically if this is the Deadliest Mass shooting since Sandy Hoax, then no one was killed. "Calling Robbie Parker and Gene Rosen, you're wanted at the CNN TV interview". I'm sure if the FEDS keep looking through their apartment, they'll find the TOW missiles. They are those big green things in the corner with the lamp shades on top of them. Don't trip over the MRAP as you come through the door. The Death toll changed because they were able to scrape up a few more CPR dummies for the empty stretchers. That and some more red paint.
My two-door down neighbor's son was killed at Sandy Hook. Not sure where you get your info.
When tragedy strikes, everybody claims to knows somebody. Funny how that works.
You should come here to Newtown and talk to my neighbor. Tell him how you know that no one was killed that day. How do you think that conversation would go?
And tell me how you know that what I'm saying isn't true? I'd love to hear it. It's pretty sickening to me that you and your ilk have one and only one possible explanation for everything - that it's a conspiracy aimed ultimately at you.
Would love you to meet my neighbor.
Its not that people dont believe him or you, they dont believe youre a real person when the Federal govt pays people to spread disinformation on ZH and similar websites.
Easiest way is to ask him the address so that you can visit. He claims that he would love for you to meet his neighbor. What better way than a personal visit?
Do not be too worried. He will not give it.
At this point he is in a corner.
When he does not produce then it demonstrates that he does NOT want you to meet his neighbor.
Mayhem.
Either youre a liar or your neighbor is a liar and youre an idiot.
I heard three morons toting this same line days after the event..all just bleat.
Wheres the death certificate. Tell it to Wolfgang Halbig.
Its not that people dont believe him or you, they dont believe youre a real person when the Federal govt pays people to spread disinformation on ZH and similar websites.
Interesting comment from someone who joined ZH much more recently than I.
I'm not going to play the games of the those here who somehow believe there is a burden of proof they are owed. That is disrespectful at best. I know where I live. I know who my neighbors are. You folks can knock yourself out doing so, however. You don't need me to find the parents of the children killed at Sandy Hook. They are here every day and not that hard to find.
And if you're convinced I'm paid by the gov't to troll here, I won't waste my time trying to convince you otherwise.
What is your address?
I have given you mine.
Here it is again...
12223B Woodside Avenue
Lakeside, CA 92040.
Yeah. I will meet your neighbor.
Send him over or provide me his address...if you really would love to have him meet with me.
So do you live at sausage and more, wild bull bar,Or the pure smoke shop?
Or do you live across the street at the Napa auto parts store or the Sombrero Mexican food
Google maps actually works believe it or not.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/12223+Woodside+Ave,+Lakeside,+CA+92040...!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x80dbe279c2bbdf7b:0x6bc94337a3f0f218
Actually I am West of Sausage and More. I am across the street from NAPA and Sombreros.
The Pure Smoke Shop is across Emerald Grove. I am 100 feet away from that. (That is where I buy my cigarettes.)
Find Westcoast and that is the the building that I live in. I am in an apratment on the second floor to the south.
It is directly above where the Cooling Store used to be...which is no longer in business. It has been converted into an apartment.
Google Maps need to update their database.
Come on over.
If you get lost just ask the homeless where Tall Tom is. They know who I am. You will be directed and you are more than welcome.
In this view of the picture which is looking South down Emerald Grove the building to the right is where I live.
Shoot. You can even see my Red Nissan Sentra in the Parking Lot..
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8564978,-116.9277713,3a,75y,170.93h,93.6...!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBkx-a_ZG2PWn9zYPhPqKtA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
"Authorities have reportedly discovered "hundreds" of tools that could be used to make IEDs." WTF? Every red blooded american man has a garage that you could say the same. Wait... We're all terrorists!
Now you're getting it. If you aren't into mindless consumerism and into DIY type stuff, you are a terrorist.
Ye Gods! I'll never look at my saw table and workbench the same again!
I recall you once challenged me to come to your place for a fistfight, or to go hunting together, or something like that, Tom. I looked it up and concluded you were just another fake internet tough guy. This looks more real, congratulations. I apologize for my former conclusion.
But it still seems like a bloody stupid idea to me. Why make finding you easy?
Hunting, dude..HUNTING.
Cougar HUNTING
You'd beat my ass in a fight...I am disabled.
Hahaha he posts it all the time. Often enough that I recognized the address. Posts a name here and there too.
Thomas
O'Brien
Isn't that Helgas' House of Pain?
Well I use the Laundry Room as the Dungeon and Torture Chamber but I won't tell if you don't
Shhhhhhh....
Send him over or provide me his address...if you really would love to have him meet with me.
You don't need me or anyone else to find the parents of the Sandy Hook children. They are here every day and easy to find.
If you really want to validate what you believe about what happened, just come here and talk with the people first hand. You seem smart enough to be able to discern from them what is true and what isn't.
I'm less than 25 minutes from Newtown, I'd LOVE to hear the some of the explanations he has. Actually I'd love to hear JUST ONE of the explanations that he has. I have hundreds of questions, do you think he could answer any of them (staying in character naturally)?
Do you know anything about Anne Haddad/Nancy Lanza?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvkOE_F-mc8
The story we always heard was she worked for a Brokerage House in Manhattan. They shut the place down for "Insider Trading" and everyone went to jail except for her. She of course was allegedly "shot in the face" and then the body was cremated and her ashes were buried in a private ceremony in Northern New Hampshire. Which means she's in the WPP and living out West somewhere. Never heard the Anne Haddad angle. The narrative was always a moving target. First she worked at the school, then she used to work there, then she never did. All of the facts were subjective and everything was in a constant state of change. Nothing was ever agreed upon except for "We have to ban Guns to save our Children".
I find the whole thing curious.
no one was killed. remember how no one could see the bodies?
the children were sold to saudi princes. brilliant psyop 'leftover' disposal strategy.
sandy hook school had been closed for 2 years
The Sandy Hook school was demolished almost two years ago, raized to the ground. Same thing with the Lanza house, they knocked that down too. There isn't a trace of evidence left anywhere.
Just like the twin towers. Can't allow any investigation of the crime scene.
I've seen dozens of these "Well I know (insert name or affiliation here) that lost a (son or daughter, mother, aunt, grandma). It's always: "why don't you talk to (insert name or affiliation) and see what happens?" Always! It's the same script over and over. Can't you clowns come up with another spiel to use? You're all writing from the same manual. How about trying: "My name is (alleged parent or relative) and I personally lost (insert name here). Attached is a copy of the birth certificate and death certificate". Have a nice day.
Nice.
raptor1100
Why don't you just talk to the people. Talk to the parents. The reason you get that "spiel" is that it is the most obvious way for you to discern the truth for yourself. So until you actually do so, you'll keep getting those questions.
Like vatican cameo who says he lives 25 minutes from Newtown and has lots of questions. Well, just drive over and talk to the parents. How hard is that if you're only 25 minutes away?
I do not claim to have all of the answers, but the notion that there was no one killed that day is absurd and offensive. Don't shift the burden to others if you have doubts.
http://rense.com/general96/NobodyDiedAtSandyHook.pdf
They hurried off the witnesses who were in the banquet hall in buses last night and would not allow reporters to interview them.
Those who would tell the truth...KA-BANG.
Oopsies...
We found another body.
TuPhat, you have drunk the kool-aid and it was good!
The NSA are not there to monitor THEM, they are there to monitor YOU. Terrorists are no threat to the elites, YOU are.
So those trillions funneled into the NSA worked perfectly, thwarting yet another tearrist attack!
... oh, wait a sec ....
Well, if they are surveilling their girlfriends, and obsessions and ex-wives (LOVINT), and the rest of the resources are dedicated at foreign oil companies and banks, I would posit that doesn't leave time or resources open for NATIONAL SECURITY!
Was Farook in the Federal Witness Protection Program?
lack of paper trail might suggest that?
Let's see if I have this straight...
They were looking for three WHITE GUYS...in a BLACK SUV.
First since they were camoed I do not know how they could discern that they were white.
Obviously the witnesses at the scene would have possibly been able to discern that. But they were not allowed to talk to the media last night as they were placed on buses and guarded. (I watched the entire bullshit story...thank you ZH.)
And that guy just does not look all that white to me.
See a contradiction? You'd have to be intentionally blind not to see it.
The news narrative need not approximate the truth.
How long until it comes out that Farook was an FBI informant?
~"Wait a second... How did this happen with all the NSA et al surveillance going on??"~
An excellent question considering the size of the purse we spend on it. Kind of seems like a colossal waste of money, doesn't it? Not to mention the invasion of privacy? But I guess keeping an eye of foreign jihadis was not the real purpose of the Patriot Act anyway, was it?
$60 billion a year spent by intelligence/DHS and nothing prevented. They are terrorizing taxpayers.
They be too busy watching the bitter clingers and vets!
You know! Us real terrorist who believe in the rule of law and the constitution and "God"
froze25: https://kat.cr/usearch/Rubicon%20category:tv/
;-)
Rubicon season 1 available on kickass, yo
hey froze25,
I download the whole thing a few months ago as a torrent. I'm sure its still available. and you are correct, it was an awesome show.
Kinda weak ammo stash, no?
Gold Bitchez.....I pick up pennies
I wonder how many ZHers have a "weapons trove" with as much or (probably) more ammo.
Not me, I lost my stuff in all the polar vortex's and hurricanes that happen every other day now because of "manmade global warming" ;-)
When I went back to USSA last year and the Court Clerk made me change my Virginia CHP from resident to non-resident, I lost all my "registered" firearms to some EVIL CORPORATION. The upside was that the ATF approved a 5320.20 (Form 20) from the the evil corporation much faster than they had ever approved anything for some dumb redneck.
~"I wonder how many ZHers have a "weapons trove" with as much or (probably) more ammo."~
What, do you think PMs are the only thing I lose when I go boating?
...polar vortices. All mine went down there too...
For years, people have talked about the weather but never done anything about it. Obama's new climate tax will finally fix the weather. And then the terrists will stop because we'll have good weather.
Those damn Poles and their vortices!
Wait a second... How did this happen with all the NSA et al surveillance going on??
With live amateur porn streaming in 24/7/365?
They'd need an army of eunuchs to effectively monitor the "possible terrorist" streams.
Also, the "political blackmail" streams are far more lucrative.
Luckily enough, there is an army of eunuchs available, otherwise known as the House Republican Caucus.
So now simply having a couple thousand rounds of ammunition (actually pretty common for people that range shoot or hunt) is "planning for an attack". Lovely. More propaganda to be used against gun owners and instill fear in the useful idiots that vote based on emotions.
Wow! 20 downvotes for pouring water on someones face.
What a gigantic load of pussies that occupy this comment section.
Nothing wrong with weapons just as there is nothing wrong with enough horsepower in one's car to drive faster than 70mph. It's none of your business, leftists. Wait until a law is broken to have your panic attacks. Freedom and liberty are actually good things.
" We mis-Vetted some folks. "
~ Hussein O'Bama
Will history look back on Obama as the worst Merican Presdient ever?
He has to be up there for sure.
Wonder if the Yanks will wake up and see what horrors they unleashed on themeselves and the world when they voted this turd in twice?
"Wait until a law is broken to have your panic attacks"
Actually, let me clarify: Wait until a person or property is actually harmed (and not their safe space violated by micro-aggressions) before having your panic attacks. You've written WAY to many laws, making almost every action by people illegal.
Here's my question. Supposedly there are too many guns in America.
OK... Then how did these shooter(s) shoot 21 people dead, and injure 14, but none of those they shot at HAD A GUN? Hmm? How is that possible?
Thats 35 people without a gun. 0 guns, 35 people. So how do we conclude from that, that America has too many guns?
All I know is, in the Wild Wild West these shooters would have been dead after shooting maybe 1, max 2 victims each.
All 35 may have owned guns, but they weren't allowed to carry them in the building. There are so many exceptions to where you can carry, you essentially can't. Los of gun owners, but few carrying guns.
But the shooter carried, breaking the government's gun law. Funny how that works.
Maybe some did have guns but I'm sure their place of employment would not allow them at work. Same for me. I must risk losing my job to personally protect myself. Everyone here believes the State should have sole authority to protect them and doesn't question this. Funny to observe the blank stares when I say " when seconds count, the cops are minutes away." They treat it as a pithy euphemism. Maddening.
Miffed
I just tell them that, every time I've been in a scrape, the cops weren't there to protect me and I had to fend for myself. Lining somebody up with your front sight makes them think twice about fucking with you.
FAKE
Where are the yellow lines?
Where is the picket fence?
Where is the tree?
Where are the signs and power poles?
http://82.221.129.208/screwup.jpg
Good link. Thanks.
Yeah but my neighbor who lives two doors down from me was killed at this party. Don't believe me? I would like you to meet my neighbor and he/she could tell you her/him self. /S
It's like the holocaust. You would think the Jews would be thrilled to find fewer died
but they aren't. They don't even want you to investigate it. They are enraged that
you dare claim the numbers are too high, because it was real in their minds...
The person who is spared a round to the head when you assist a criminal to the afterlife first is far less likely to think you should lose your job for being a first responder 10 minutes to 3 hours ahead of the donut po po cavalry.
If not, there are plenty of jobs out there, but only one life for you to live.
Similar issue with my GF back in the 80s. I bought her one of these deer antler points at a flea market so she would at least have something when walking to/from her car.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/32932640996861318/
Just tell them the police are only there to clean up the mess.
Same when I was in corporate.
Folks carried anyway, starting with managers.
Unless you're subject to random searches...
That is the question the media should be asking. How come nobody shot back?
I mean look at Paris. It's not as if gun control would have made a blind bit of difference.
The answer to your question is "California".
< Worst 'Merican president ever.
< Best Kenyan president ever.
Or false dilemma arguement?
America should know better than trust a Muslim who has been to Pakistan voluntarily.
I regret voting for Bush. He went to the Bush compound voluntarily.
History won't even look back at this POS. If they do, they'd say, "His momma' made him what he was - and his daddy was his father's friend and mentor."
Obama is a deepstate puppet who does little more than run his mouth on behalf of his controllers, as proof I submit that the next president will be worse (as Obama was worse than Bush) than obama, and Federal debt will double yet again in half the time, Fear not though, where ever you are, our deepstate government is your deepstate government.
Historians will probably have to consider Hillary and she might make Obama look like Ronald Reagan.
~"Will history look back on Obama as the worst Merican Presdient ever?"~
What's even more galling is that his solution to jihadis, mental health nutters, armed illegal drug cartel members and black gangbangers is to try to dis-arm law-abiding citizens. Socialists and Marxists want to take your guns away for two simple reasons. The first is insulting and the second they will NEVER cop to.
1.) They DO NOT think you are "mature enough" to be able to be responsible with firearms. Nanny-staters don't think you have the aptitude to own guns. Period.
2.) The second, (and closer to the truth), is that they know that if freedom-loving citizens are armed, one day they will come for them when they get sick enough of the freedom-hating BS.
Probably not, there are still millions of idiots that would vote for Shitlery. Apparently they haven't had enough abuse yet.
Yo, I voted for Kodos!
Hussein O'Bama, isnt that the middle eastern irish fellow?
"Freedom and liberty are actually good things."
Meanwhile, NSA employee Mark Zuckerburg is "giving" his $46 billion fortune to a for-profit "philantrhopic" LLC he controls with a key goal of "promoting equality".
Duh, all the billionaire robber barons at the turn of the last century had this figured it. Give your money to a 'philanthropic' foundation that you control. Bingo. Fools 97% of idiots, 100% of the time. Avoid the stigma of being filthy rich, while still being filthy rich. Worked for Bill Gates, Ford (although props to him for handing out copies of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion), Rockefeller, I could go on and on and on...
Good tax shelter, too. Nothing like a "non-profit" charity to hide your taxable wealth and income under.
Wait until someone is actually hurt to have your panic attacks. Freedom and liberty are actually good things. There, I fixed it for you. Pre crime, making everyone a criminal!!!
WTF kinda planning was that? The mall was just a few miles away, freeway as well. Its almost like they failed terrorism 101.
I have a feeling he hated his co-workers and that is why they are dead.
They were probably planning to hit a mall, but something at work got the guy mad so he went for both a soft target and personal revenge.
They attacked a Christmas Party.
Yeah, like any .gov seasonal party in CALIFORNIA is called that...
Why would that get them all upset? It's not as if christmas has anything to do with christianity.
It is a disability center. Either today or tomorrow is 'world disability day'. Must be a UN thing, just saw it on evening news.
ah hem, holiday party you micro-aggressor.
No one wanted to be his Secret Santa...
I have a feeling he worshiped allah and that is why they are dead.
Didn't they shoot up the hubby's co-workers at a Holiday gathering? Apparently he left the gathering, went home, got his wife and the guns and returned. It was all planned, maybe even as it was played out.
They didn't want to live, suicide by cop.
Maybe it was good planning. I mean, he showed up at a govt party and killed govt workers. Maybe he uncovered significant criminal behavior and was blackballed for trying to do something about it so he took care of it himself.
Bwahahahaha! I wish I had yer optimism!
Stupid crap like this needs to be called out:
"The rifles, two .223s, are capable of piercing bulletproof vests."
Almost all centerfire rifles will peice bullet proof vest. Bullet proof vests are only designed to stop handgun rounds.
Also, its not "assault rifles" but semi automatic rifles.
It dumb crap like this that pours more fuel on the fires being fanned by the facist liberals.
ask someone who uses that term to define what an "assault rifle" is... watch their mind explode...
It's a rifle that assaults of course!
"No numbnuts, it's a rifle that shoots salt bullets."
It's a rifle that's black (is that rayciss, by the way), has a pistol grip, and probably a really scary-looking, micro-aggressing flash hider on the pointy end.
Is this an assault rifle? The flies think so.
http://bugasalt.com/
I wouldn't call that a 'trove' considering this is the odama years. I'd consider that a fair share.
I have tried. Their various responses could be distilled down to " a gun that looks scary." Nothing more rational then that. My idea to make them all pink with hello kitty stickers was not well received.
Miffed
The only guns I consider to look scary are the ones pointed at me. Even empty ones.
Don't even have to be black, do they.
I'm surprised (not really) that I haven't heard it mentioned that in CA, AR-15's must be seriously neutered to be legally owned. I don't know all the tiny details, but I do know things like the magazine can't be easily detachable, and can only have a low capacity one at that. So basically there's no way in a gun fight you could stop, drop the mag, put in a new mag, and keep firing, but I heard that's exactly what they did. If that's true, the AR-15's they were using weren't legal to own. Ergo, CA gun laws are idiotic. The stupid restrictions only apply to the law abiding gun owners.
They can't have a pistol grip. They can't have a bayonet lug (that would have been a real life saver in San Bernardino). Maybe someone from CA can fill the rest of us in.
All I know is that if their AR-15's were legally owned, they didn't look like the AR-15 pictured in the article.