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DMV Releases Photo Of "Radicalized" Mass Shooter After Weapons Trove Found In House
Update: DMV officials have released a driver's license photo of Syed Rizwan Farook.
Earlier today, we profiled Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, the couple who stormed a San Bernardino County holiday party with two assault rifles, killing 14 and wounding 21 more in the deadliest mass shooting America has seen since Sandy Hook.
While the jury is still out on possible motives, Farook did travel to Saudi Arabia before marrying Malik, a Pakistan native who apparently taveled to the US after Farook's trip to the Mid-East.
While that certainly doesn't qualify as conclusive evidence, we did note earlier that according to several profiles Farook set up on dating sites, he identified himself as Sunni and when it comes to radicalizing Sunni Muslims, the Saudis and their brand of puritanitcal Wahhabism are second to none. Of course the connection to the Mid-East is itself enough to arouse suspicion among an American public that's now hyper-sensistive to Islamic extremism in the wake of the Paris attacks and thanks to fact that the issue has been politicized by Presidential candidates on both sides of the aisle. Reuters says Farook came back into the US in 2014 and also traveled to Pakistan "at one point."
Here's what we said earlier:
Of course at the end of the day, two people opening fire with assault rifles on a holiday party seems pretty "terrifying" to us regardless of what inspired the shooters, but remember, crises like these are only "useful" in today's world if they serve someone's geopolitical ends so don't be surprised if the mainstream media soon turns up the San Bernardino equivalent of the forged Syrian passport found in Paris three weeks ago.
Sure enough, CNN now reports that Farook was "apparently radicalized" and was "in touch with people being investigated by the FBI for international terrorism." Similarly, NBC says Farook was in contact with "overseas individuals." The FBI now says Farook communicated with people who were on the bureau's radar in connection with a terrorism investigation. Officials also said the contact was with "people who weren't significant players," and was dated. There was no documentation of any "surge" in communication prior to the shooting.
We now know that Malik had a Pakistani passport and came to the U.S. on a fiancee visa. Farook entered the US with Malik in July of 2014. The FBI reportedly "doesn't know all of the countries" Farook visited. AP reports that in order to get the visa, Malik "had to submit to an in-person interview and biometric and background checks to ensure she wasn't a threat to public safety or national security."
According to The NY Times, the FBI is now treating the shooting as a terrorism case.
CNN also says investigators are analyzing an apparent "bomb lab" at Farook's residence. Authorities have reportedly discovered "hundreds" of tools that could be used to make IEDs.
As reported earlier, the couple used a DPMS model and a Smith & Wesson M&P 15 along with two handguns - a llama and a Smith & Wesson - in the attack. The rifles, two .223s, are capable of piercing bulletproof vests. The weapons were purchased legally.
Farook and Malik also placed a "device" consisting of three connected pipe bombs at the scene. Apparently, the remote detonator failed. 65-75 rounds were fired in the initial attack. 76 additional shots were fired at officers.
Found in the suspects' home:
- 2,500 .223 rounds
- 2,000 9mm rounds
- 12 pipe bombs
Found in the black SUV:
- 1,400 .223 rounds
- 200 9mm rounds
The trove of weapons police discovered indicated that the pair were "armed for a second attack."
Additionally, AP has the following account of Farook's family history:
The records obtained Thursday by The Associated Press show that Syed Farook's mother, Rafia, described her husband in 2006 as "irresponsible, negligent and an alcoholic."
She said she was forced to move out of her home with three of her children because her husband continually harassed her "verbally and physically and refused to leave the home."
She filed a no-contact, stay-away domestic violence protection petition on July 3, 2006. She alleged that same year that her husband attacked her while her kids were present, dropped a TV on her and pushed her toward a car.
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Try to buy one and look at the CA requirements. Really stupid requirements.
Very few gun dealers will ship to CA. Big on airsoft...harmless but the cops can still legitimately shoot you for carrying one. Just don't delete the red tip to be cool.
airsoft...harmless but the cops can still legitimately shoot you for carrying one.
Well, that would be if "legitimately" just means they won't be prosecuted, as it is anywhere, even here in TX.
Or Cincinatti, Ohio, where, despite being an open carry state, cops notoriously gunned down a teenager for carrying an airsoft gun in his pants waistband in a public park. More importantly, they drove up and shot him before the police car even stopped moving, or he had time to say "hello". The video is on Youtube, and the cops were suspended, but returned to duty.
Could have just as easily been a real gun, but apparently they simply shoot everyone on sight open-carrying.
Rifles can't have "evil features" like pistol grips, bayonet lugs, etc. If they do, they have to have fixed magazines limited to ten rounds, in an AR-15 style rifle, that would mean a device like a "bullet button" which requires a tool, or the tip of a bullet used as a tool, to release the magazine. Just goes to show that these asinine laws are only obeyed by law abiding citizens.
But hey, don't worry, this will have it's intended effect, to increase gun control laws and militarization of the police.
I've also heard a few times that they were definitely using "large caliber weapons".
For those that don't know, an AR-15 fires a 22 caliber bullet (basically the smallest bullet available, but with a lot of gunpowder behind it and not for shooting squirrels like other 22's). The devastastion comes from the fact that it's moving so fast (physics), but it's definitely not a large caliber weapon.
Also available in .223
Allow me to revise my statement for clarity: An AR-15 fires a .223 (or 5.56x45), which is the exact same bullet diameter as the 22lr which you might shoot a squirrel with. They're both 22 caliber bullets, and I don't know of any smaller calibers using gunpowder. The smallest caliber clearly can't be considered "large caliber".
It would be much more accurate if the news called it a "small caliber" or "smallest caliber" weapon. It aint "automatic" and it aint "large caliber" and it doesn't have "clips".
.17 Remington is a .223 necked down to 17 calibre. Mostly a handloaded cartridge.
Wake me when someone goes postal with a .338 Lapua Magnum or .408 CheyTac.
Wanna see some splatter?
Don't even need to get that fancy.
Classic NATO 7.62x51 or Soviet 7.62x39 will do the job.
Jason Stapleton did a great job covering this:
http://www.jasonstapleton.com/stop-speculating-drive-by-media-and-the-24...
The long and short of it is, in the first few to several hours after the incident, the media has no idea what's going on, and fills in the gaps with speculation. Something I'd love to learn to do, is write a program that records the highlight text from these 24/7 news stations, and see how many blatantly false statements are made daily. Especially after something big.
The wife was the one with the beard. Haven't you ever seen any of them muslim pigs. Thats why they cover their faces. The men are shamed because the women grow better beards than they do.
The wife was the one with the beard. Haven't you ever seen any of them muslim pigs. Thats why they cover their faces. The men are shamed because the women grow better beards than they do.
Id hit it
Hundreds of rounds of 5.56 beat you to it.
Religion of peace.
Would this qualify as "Home grown terrorism".
Buh guns & ammo!
"Made in USA of US and imported parts."
Maybe, some day, people will wake up and realize that all 3 of the Abrahamic religions are a plague on humanity.
This.
Organized religion was the original form of 'centralized government'. The military had its hierarchy (with King up top, Generals and Nobility underneath) and its objectives (secure the borders, repel invasion, suppress rebellion, conscript local teenagers, etc). The church had its hierarchy (Pope, ArchBishops, etc) and objectives (tax the locals, expand jurisdiction, maintain 'law and order').
That was what 'separation of Church and State' meant, in medieval times.
We can identify a common thread here. Centralized government. Don't blame the tool for the objective it was used for.
Totally agree. The results can manifest in benevolence or extreme militant violence and degrees in between, but organized religion is predominantly hierarchal. Why an individualist like me has inherent problems with it.
Miffed
No, ignorance is THE plague on humanity. Religion is a means of placing blame of our actions onto others, onto organizations that undoubtedly desire to influence and control us...the same as it has always been, some for good, many for evil. But, it is up to us, each individually, to stand up against ignorance and those who desire to take advantage of it. There has much done good in the name of religions....almost ALL religions. It is their organization, their incontestable power that is the danger, just as we see from our governments, who seek to control all, influence all, be ALL. Religions, as with ALL organizations, simple put into focus the dangers that an ignorant humanity can pose. We should be used to this by now.
Ignorance and lack of critical thinking skills. Also people only concerned with themselves and how they look to others. The fact that most people don't understand long term planning to realize long term large gains.
you havent researched the roots of christianity, have you
I don't think "Dawkins said it, I believe it, that settles it" counts as studying.
Sorta interesting that there is NO organized structure to islam. Unlike the other two abrahamic religions.
Control usually needs structure. Why is it different?
Government is the plague on humanity. Think about how many people governments have murdered through wars and infanticide (murdering babies) all together?
Horsepuckey. Islam is a completely different beast and if you'd studied it at all you would know that.
And, if you had really done some reading outside of a book that you assume was divinely inspired, you would realize that the patriarchal nature of these religions creates the underpinning of our top down from God mentality, which has, in fact, been plaguing us for a couple of thousand years or so as a societal structure. That is what places the power and the money in the hands of the very few.
What's the weather like on Planet SJW?
Religion of pieces?
Religion of peace?
Wait 'till Barry imports another 100,000.
... with a bat
She's got the crazy eyes.
I bet she fucked real good.
I would do a Smedley Butler to the bodies and especially focused on the wife with some pig testicles hanging out of orfices. Film it and bury them covered with pig entrails. Send film to various muslim groups. No heaven for this couple and tell them that is what will happen to every jihadist.
Coupled with any mosque with a jihadist -- destroyed within a week!
Any iman with a jihadist in his group that you did not notify us about -- deported within five days as well as his family and descendents.
Oh yeah I am not politically correct!
Smedley Butler? WTF?
It was General Pershing. Blackjack Pershing executed about 50 Philipino muslims, buried them with a gutted pig each and released one lucky witness back into the wild.
Insurgency quieted right down.
I reckon one pig to one jihadist per grave would quiet the whole ME down.
Vlad, Vlad, do ya hear me???
Leave Smedley outta this.
2 of his quotes just to show why that cvomment was wrong.
"There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights." "War is a racket. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."That is Boy George at his prom.
Indian (as on call-center country) dress style, not muslim.
If true,wife is white/caucasian and certainly not porki
...as are almost all rifles.
Capable of piercing rifle plates like the cops all have, now? No.
Finally, if you know someone special that likes the finer things in
life, and lives in an area where they may need to defend those finer
things...and their life...I offer the following:
$4252 mrs_horseman's recipe for, "Can-of-Whoop-Ass."
$1300 Benelli M2 Tactical Shotgun with Ghost Ring Sights
$115 Mesa Tactical Urbino® Pistol Grip Stock for Benelli M2, 12½ inch length of pull
$75 Nordic Components +2 Rounds Extenion Tube for Benelli M2
$100 Meprolight Tru-Dot Tritium Sights for Benelli Shotguns with Ghost Ring Sights
$300 Surefire DSF-M1/M2 LED Forend WeaponLight for Benelli M2
$53 URBAN-SENTRY Hybrid Sling Complete Kit
$132 GG&G M2 Charging Handle & Tac Pad
$40 Urban ERT 30 round shotgun shell belt
$67 8" by 10" Semi-Concealable Style Covert Rifle Plates Carrier
$220 Level IV Stand-Alone Lightweight 10" by 12" Regular Shooters Cut Front
$220 Level IV Stand-Alone Lightweight 10" by 12" Rectangular Back Plate
$430 = 2 x $215 250rds 12 Ga. Winchester Military 2 3/4" 9 Pellet 00 Buckshot
$400 =2 x $200 250rds 12 Gauge Remington Slugger 2 3/4" 1oz. Rifled Slug
$800 =$400 x 2 Weekends of Tactical shotgun class
Dude, I gotta party with you... and Hunter Thompson's ghost.
In my opinion, the most valuable napkin in the world reads:
God, rest his soul.
Damn, I miss that guy.
Humor is sorely needed these days...
How much for the "No Hesitation" targets?
Miss fear and loathing guy for sure
I read somewhere he was murdered, over some sort of expose he was doing on 9/11.
I'd like to think it was true. The cunts.
A .22lr is lethal at 1-1/2 miles. It will penetrate a 1/2" pine board at that distance (if you could hit the board, of course).
It would depend on the grade of pine. I would buy in that a .22 will penetrate a 1/2" pine board at 500 yards which by US Army standards is considered lethal. The standard warning on .22LR boxes is that it can/may reach 1.5 miles. In days gone by the warnings used to be 1 mile or 1.25 miles. None the less to be hit at 1.5 miles would smart but would not necessarily be lethal. Here is a test out to 440 yards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUM1r_444CY
New shit for old ?
Upgrading and refining operational assets is KEWL ......
I just can't be sold on the "defensive" shotgun. Too long, too hungry, too slow. The time and effort required to become proficient with a shotgun could be spent on an AR type carbine that is capable of taking a percentage shot without "select slug" manipulation, and has much more firepower.
How does a .223 have, "much more firepower," when each round of 12-gauge OO-buck has 9, 12, or 15 .30-caliber pellets?
I have seen many, many, people with rifle wounds, and with buck shot wounds. Inside a home, with my life on the line, I will choose a shotgun, every time.
"You know I'm surgical with this bitch, Jake."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQLiISTOi2s
A tatto artist in the P.I. that marked me up had the scars of 4 bullets on his back and side.
They were all .223s from the Philippines Constabulary's M16s.
He's fine.
A sort of mythological greatness has been talked into existence around this little round.
Good for varmints, light for the infantry to hump all day, and that's about it.
The grunts were pretty upset when they took away their M14s.
I knew a few of them that defiantly carried their M14s or grabbed a pumpgun instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhZf_x8Esms
Slo-mo video of buckshot hitting gelatin. Check out the segment with the 000. HFS!
That's devastation.
And you know your patterning so well you can take a percentage shot (hostage/non-combatant in front of target) and it ends well. You are certainly better than most. As far as firepower goes, projectiles per trigger squeeze is not firepower. You get to squeeze the trigger 7-8 times before you must reload (if you are good you shoot a couple load a couple). Non-jacketed lead balls at 9mm diameter and velocity will not penetrate armor. The blunt trauma will reduce the target at close range, so there's that. Now try to pie off a small room with a standard shotgun. I'm not stuck on any one platform, but the almost indoctrinated adherence to the shotty over the carbine is nonsense. Check out Max Velocity's fighing from the door CQB and his comments on the subject, real dudes doing it for real.
Shotguns can be pretty lethal to an intruder but their lower velocity projectiles make them less threatening to neighbors or family members in other rooms. They are short range weapons which I suspect is all you need unless you live in a bowling alley.
I prefer clear fields of fire, and keeping them at a safer distance. Say about 500 yards. If they get into my home, I have already lost, the only question is how much?
Kel-tec KSG
Highly unreliable, and nearly impossible to do fast combat loads.
Bull-pup pump shotguns are good, if you want to shoot off your own hand.
I beg to differ. Never had a misfire and, if you need more than 15rds of shotgun loads during a conflict, then, youre already dead.
Despite myself, and many others, that are living proof that this is not the case.
Don't let that pump hand slip forward of the muzzle, when things get hot, and your hands get sweaty as you are working through those 15 rounds.
Peace!
Pair that KSG with a Taurus semi auto and you've got a winner.
Just dont drop that loaded Taurus.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/11/19/taurus-drop-test-video/
I believe there's been a recall on certain models.
Remington has had some pretty scary recalls as well.
The 700 series triggers that go boom if you move the safety or bolt and the R51 handgun debacle that goes boom if you look at it funny.
A friend used to say, "friends don't let friends buy junk" when refering to taurus and he owned a major gun store in South Idaho. I got rid of all my taurus semi stuff. I do like the revolvers OK.
Vertical Grip. Problem solved. Peace.
Yes with flash light and green laser, for in house close quarters work. Everyone has their preference. Plus the KSG can cycle the short loads getting capacity up there and being a little less lethal close up. While I'm intent on repelling intruders, I'm not dead set on killing them.
I have pretty much all of the above and find everything has its strengths. The most important thing is familiarity and repetitive use, which pretty much eliminates reliability factors, as if proven unreliable, it no longer exists in the arsenal.
Behold the wonder of the Sidewinder Venom...
All that fun in a tight Mossburg
http://www.adaptivetactical.com/products/venomse-10rndrotary-kit.php
KelTec KSG has to be the biggest piece of shit marketed toward mall ninjas and tacticool operators.
I guess you havent seen the stories several people blowing their hands off when their vertical foregrips came off a KSG while trying to load another round.
Plus, with a KSG, you get a shitty pullpup trigger.
Benelli M2, Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 make much better tactical shotguns.
Just don't ever put a pistol grip on the Mossy.
Pistol grips are for oper8tors.
I'd have to get some tacticool tattoos to be one.
Please elaborate. A friend of a friend has this configuration.
It has a thumb safety on the top of the action, so it takes way too much time to knock it off with your thumb, then put your thumb down below the stock and around the pistol grip, then pull the trigger. It is a FUBAR design.
This.
Do you own one? Have you used one?
I have bullpups in lots of different configurations and have no issues with them. But I do have them tuned up by qualified gunsmiths.
Again, different weapons for different purposes. But do feel free to pontificate. Happy to put my pile of shit up against yours anytime.
Every time I see a gear whore post I have to laugh. These guys in Paris and these nuts in CA didn't have any of that and they wrought havoc. While you're busy trying to not scuff up your $1300 tactical shotgun they'll be slaughtering you with a $150 sawed off and pure will.
Or a $550 DPMS with a 30 rd mag while you try to Chris Costa your way into a speed reload. Problem is you didn't buy enough ammo and train enough to get your muscle memory down.
That's a bunch of rich guy show off crap.
Everything you just posted could be done at a 1/3.
Hardware is nice, but software wins fight.
You should have 8 times as as much ammo and 8 times as much training and lose all that gear whore garbage.
You probably wouldn't make that assumption, nor a few others, if you saw how much gorilla tape and spray paint is on mrs_horseman's M2.
She has much more ammo and training, as do I. Thank you very much for your concern.
I hope you work through your resentments of others that may have earned more money than you, or have nicer things.
I bet he hates SIGs too.
Your link lists greed, gluttony and hubris right up there with envy. Christmas may have been commercialized by corporations for profit, but I still try to discipline myself to seriously consider who I am trying to help, why I am trying to help them, and how I can best help them before allocating my finite resources to their less finite needs and desires.
(If I was going to give someone a semi automatic shotgun or ceramic armor I think you've made sound recommendations)
If you have the $$$, you can buy DRAGON SKIN ARMOR. Go to YT and also search for LIQUID ARMOR.
In a more realistic/probable scenario of getting caught in this kind of an attack, the best thing to do it the obvious thing: Do Not Run. Take Cover behind the nearest object that gives decent protection, or hit the ground. Crouching and running is BS, as a skilled shooter can hit you just as well.
You can also get a Body Armor Plate that you insert in your backpack, with school and executive versions abailable. For ~$200, they are worth it, assuming you think your life is worth it.
Pinnacle Armor, the makers of Dragon Skin, went out of business in 2010, after their product failed to secure military contracts and failed NIJ certification testing/re-testing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Skin
.223 rifle bullets, of the type used in this attack, will easily penetrate a single layer of pretty much anything you can reasonably find in the interior of a commercial or residential structure, even interior walls not made of masonry.
Distance from the attacker is in fact your best defense, not only because range lowers your target priority, but also because it lowers the liklihood of getting hit accidentality or on purpose (accuracy falls off with range, even with carefully aimed shots).
If you are too close to the attacker to get away quickly and easily, attack the assailant instead. Close the gap as quickly as possible, and begin pummeling him/her. Aim for groin, throat, and/or wrists.
Obviously the motive was that he was upset about lack of safe spaces on today's college campuses for minorities.
Nawp. Pretty sure it was climate-change deniers that set them off.
motive? muslims hate everything american. they will never assimilate and we the people shouldnt even let them try.
Exactly. CAIR ... the council on american-islamic relations.
Those fuckers admit you can't be the same.
WTF is with all the red on you guys? i think we have been infiltrated by the mujahideen....
quick, wrap yourself in bacon.
ya da bacon sound like it be good alternate to da 'mercun flag...
Same as the Jews but they dot say it out loud
In the south SF Bay Area in Santa Clara, we have a bigass Muslim Community Association center building, and an Islamic skool next door. One of the best live-and-let-live skate spots in the area is at the Hope Services donation center parking lot next door. I've been skating that parking lot long before that new building next door came about. One time I had a chat with an African fella passing by and admiring my tricks - he cooks at the MCA center - nice gentleman, soft-spoken. He had a few puffs from my joint and was happy to have had the chance to smoke, and even invited me to go try the food there sometime.
I don't know what the point of my story is, but I guess I mean to say that not all muslims are terrizz.
edit: On the other side of town, in the once-and-still-mostly-white Campbell, CA, I see an Islamic skool popped up. Now that shit looks sketch, like it doesn't belong.
You can't trust what they teach in skool - any skool. Filling young minds full of mush and turning them into terrizz, or worse, welfare-bums or social justice warriors.
Skateboarder; I like to find out where they are from and how long they have been over here. That will tell a lot - language, sect, level of [their] paranoia ...
The new Muslim influx we have out here in Concord came in very quietly, and hails from Damascus. They stick together and obviously maintain a level of awareness while in public that is above the norm for the region. As would I. Many of the women wear hijabs. Some are actually not half-bad looking.
They were getting Amerikan-made bombs rained on them in Syria and beat feet over here when the opportunity arose. The men are not confined by their getups while the women are easy to spot and appear assigned to child-rearing. Never see the women behind the wheel of anything.
And oh yes, that Cali weed for the fear factor. Puts me right down the rabbit hole every time. "Total fear is total awareness" -- Chuckie Manson
Faisal Mohammad, the guy who tried to go on a stabbing rampage at UC Merced was from Santa Clara.
"I don't know what the point of my story is, but I guess I mean to say that not all muslims are terrizz."
...yet all terrorists are muslim.
CIA, Mossad, MI6 are muslim organizations? Who knew?
Especially when you can't aim worth a shit.
but da real vantage be da pellets wut ca travel around d'body armah if da blast be directud to d'neck, and d'groin areas...
is if they are shooting at you.
3400 rounds of 223 isn't that much...
Yeah - pfeh - what lightweights ..... Amongst my clan, that'd be considered a "nice start" - lol.
Yeah, for a competition shooter that is when he or she is "running low" on ammo.
There will FOR SURE be calls by California politicians to make it illegal to buy ammo in quantities larger than 500 rounds at a time. Why 500? Because the people who wait in line before the store opens to buy .22LR from Walmart in bricks will throw a fit if the limit is set any lower.
Calif. leftist politicians would probably initially try to set the limit at 50 rounds, a single box of pistol cartridges.
But it is damn heavy.
Why is everyone ignoring the 3rd shooter? I kept hearing 3 shooters and now it is completely silent, I went back to original news stories and they have all been deleted or edited to remove any mention of a 3rd shooter
The third shooter, the one some reports later claim "ran from the vehicle" and was "taken into custody", was in fact their FBI handler/informant. Agent provocateur. He provided the guns, ammo, vehicle, pipe bombs that didn't explode, and radicalization.
Before you say unpossible, consider this is actually SOP:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/21/government-agents-directly-...
Seriously, it's about time we ban murder to stop these killings.
Furthermore, the NSA, DHS and TSA did nothing to stop this obvious sleeper cell so it's time to SHUT DOWN ALL OF THEM.
I think you have it wrong - it's time to ban the war on Climate Change which is clearly causing the radicals' bad behavior -
Just ban crisis acting.
This is a pattern and is starting to not sound like sarc.
Hmm. I'm frankly baffled that this could happen. We have 200,000 people at DHS. With approximately 900 (heck no need to be too accurate), let's just round up to 1000 suspects under investigation by the FBI, that's a 200:1 ratio of paper pushers to potential terrorists. Can't figure out how this could happen. Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?
Woah, woah, woah. They did their jobs, who do you think 'radicalized' him?
I bet the gopro film is being edited and is set for a Christmas Eve release.
Where'd #3 shooter disappear to?
Why Haifa, of course.
Oh, dear. The wife or "wife" is a bit of a mystery. Even her name does not check out.
http://shoebat.com/2015/12/03/88800/
The article includes another pic.
Strange.
She sure looks European.
The 'final shootout' occurs December 15, over Syria. (Throw in Turkey, Iran, SA, and Israel.)
Shooter #3. Good question.
Reminds me of WTC7 and WTC6, never mentioned in mainstream narratives. Why was WTC6 gutted by an explosion? Why did WTC7 collapse, at freefall speed, following widely-reported explosions? Why do the vast majority of people not know WTC7 collapsed? Why did shooter #3 never get mentioned again?
That's so silly. Civilians in CA cant have mags bigger than 10rds, and anyway the mags have to be permanently affixed if the rifle is semi-auto AND has evil features like a collapsing stock, pistol grip, or flash suppressor, under Calofornia law. The ways this isnt possible under CA law are too numerous to count.
Holy fuck is that retarded. I stand corrected.
"Perps reloaded their Remmington 700s 200 times....................."
The bullet button is truly funny. No infringement there.
California is fucking retarded. Might as well get a slinghot and hurl bullets instead.
Must be all the rounds went downrange from Ole Painless.
pods
No kidding. I have said many times we need to build a wall around California to keep them walled in so they don't metastasize and ruin other states once theirs collapses under its own weight.
Wrong on a number of counts:
1. Mags do not have to be permanently attached to semi-auto rifles.
2. Pistol grips are not illegal, depending on their configuration.
3. Flash suppressors must be permanently mounted, but are otherwise legal.
4. Collapsible stocks are legal, so long as they don't reduce the overall length of the weapon below the legal minimum.
And all of these restrictions are arbitrary and completely ridiculous, having been created by a state assembly that knew absolutely nothing about firearms.
As to the 'can't have mags over 10 rounds' thing, I don't know anyone that turned theirs in when it became illegal to own one a couple of years ago (previous law said they could not be purchased or used in CA). All of my magazines are, of course, limited to only 10 rounds. No, really...
Yes, under some conditions, the conditions I have stated, you can have a detachable magazine on a semi-auto rifle in CA. It must not have an adjustable, nor a pistol grip, nor a flash supressor. Then you can release magazines and replace them and no "bullet button" or similar need be installed. Do NOT however remove a mag from your bullet-button equipped semi auto rifle while it has any of the thre le scary features. That's illegal and will get you in all kinds of trouble if you are caught by an LEO who cares.
You cannot have a pistol grip AND a detachable magazine. You can have one or the other. Having both makes it illegal. If you fix the magazine with a pistol grip, its legal.
Replacee "pistol grip" with flash suppressor and your statement remains true. Ditto with an adjustable stock.
My point - not that I have any disagreement with you gents - is that if one can remove the magazine froom the weapon, it's not permanent (regardless of what some pinhead in Sacto thinks). Doesn't matter if you have to take that extra half-second to push the bullshit - er, excuse me - bullet button to remove it, it's still being removed.
They must have had good jobs to pay for all that stuff.
He made a cool $49K per year harrassing hard working restauranteurs as an agent of the State. The new Amerikan dream - who wouldn't flood our shores from the Sunni/Shia hellhole for that kind of opportunity, then go postal?
You need to close your eyes and think for a while about who's working in restaurant kitchens.
Here's a story from Chinatown in SF last year: a kitchen worker was seen with a big slab of semi frozen beef ribs. He was slamming it repeatedly on the sidewalk outside the kitchen to limber it up. City sidewalk . . . yeah. Middle of the afternoon.
Its not only the kitchens you have to worry about.
The waiter came up to my table, took my order, slung a shot, and walked away.
I wonder where they bought the 20 round mags? They're illegal in CA (unless purchased before 1993)
Not to mention fumbling around with the bullet button in order to switch out mags in the middle of a shootout, unless of course their rifles were also illegally obtained, or "gifted" to them by some three letter agency...
+1 for the Predator reference........."old painless"
Aren't 20 round mags illegal?
Here's whats illegal: Liberty.
(There is Liberty only in the absence of saturated group think.)
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Shit Molotov! I just trashed my keyboard! and no, it is definitely not safe! Remain under the desk! Did you happen to bring a piss bottle with you when you grabbed your scissors?
END THE FED!
McMolotov - if you are a lib tard, stay under your desk, scissors at the ready, until the Authorities arrive.
If you are a Second Amendment Citizen of the USA, you were never there.
None of this would ever happen if:
(1) all the guns in private US hands were turned over to 'the state'.
(2) white men lived in closer harmony with 'diverse' immigrants from Africa, Lat Am, and the Sandbox.
(3) the US adhered to a carbon taxing regime and all related UN 'mandates'
(4) law enforcement was given bigger budgets for more surveillance and milspec 'tacticool' gear.
There, those are 4 fairy tale themes I expect the failed nation-state, the US.gov to spew today.
Allow me to continue the list for you.
(5) Put more blacks and muslims and women-- ideally, black muslim women-- in the halls of power to fight the White Male Patriarchy
(6) Turn the borders into one-way valves that let poor brown people and muslim "refugees" in, but don't let white tax donkeys out.
(7) Celebrate sodomy and make sure our children become properly enlightened on how to get pegged in the ass and suck cock and eat pussy properly
(8) Normalize pedophilia because "pedophiles are people too" and we need to properly celebrate that "alternative lifestyle" because "who are we to judge"
(9) Exterminate Christian values, Christian teaching, and...Christians themselves.
10) Eliminate CASH, which these 'terrists' anonymously used to purchase these 'weapons of war'.......
Bite your tounge! It's bad enough they use "1984" and "Brave New World" as How-To manuals, rather than as warnings of a dystopian future.
Continued...
(10) More Safe Spaces for people looking for any reason to be offended.
(11) More Stalinist radicals at the nation's colleges and universities.
And pass the TPP as quickly as possible, and in that way this all could have been prevented.
Do the many, many, many Black-on-Black, drug-related murders in the big inner cities (Chicago, Detroit, Philly...) involve Tactical Rifles or basic hnadguns?
BTW, as I've posted before, the rifle used was a civilian Tactical Rifle (semi-automatic mode only), not the military Assault Rifle that has 3 modes: Single/Semi-auto, Burst, and Full-Auto firing. Note that Jihadists use the latter. Please insist the the MSM and Gov use correct terminology, because words do matter.
As long as there is a threat from Free-Range Psych-Ward Whackos (which is the government's fault), and as long as there is a danger of crazed Wahhabists running around America (also Government's fault), We The People reserve the Inherent, Natural and Human Right to defend ourselves with ALL means necessary. Which includes using Phasers and Photon Torpedoes, in some cases. ;-)
Molon Labe, Traitor-In-Chief!
They also wore shoes with rubber soles, drank water, wiped their asses with Charmen, drove to the kill site, and consumed large amounts of O2 shortly before committing their act of violence.......
I just once want one of the other state leaders stand up during a speech by our glorious bummer and say "...WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT,HOLY SHIT MAN YOU GOT TO STOP THE 'LUDES!"
1000+ rounds fired and only 14 dead. This isnt even the jayvee team. Still, I commend them for their skill doing all those mag changes of their calofornia legal 10rd mags and operating the goddamned "bullet button" that law abiding must neuter their AR's with.
That's about in line with what US police can do accuracy-wise. 100 shots fired, a little over 1 hit when aimed into a REALLY large group of individuals.
WHOA WHOA WHOA... are you suggesting that these shooters did not comply with Kalifornia's "common sense" gun laws???
UNPOSSIBLE
If that is a trove of weapons and factory of tools then what the fuck do I have... an argosy and a manufacturing empire???
These fuckwits pretending to be journalists need to get out more, that used to be the haul from a weekend shopping trip for me before I moved back to Europe.
Reporters. Not "journalists'.