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DMV Releases Photo Of "Radicalized" Mass Shooter After Weapons Trove Found In House
Update: DMV officials have released a driver's license photo of Syed Rizwan Farook.
Earlier today, we profiled Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, the couple who stormed a San Bernardino County holiday party with two assault rifles, killing 14 and wounding 21 more in the deadliest mass shooting America has seen since Sandy Hook.
While the jury is still out on possible motives, Farook did travel to Saudi Arabia before marrying Malik, a Pakistan native who apparently taveled to the US after Farook's trip to the Mid-East.
While that certainly doesn't qualify as conclusive evidence, we did note earlier that according to several profiles Farook set up on dating sites, he identified himself as Sunni and when it comes to radicalizing Sunni Muslims, the Saudis and their brand of puritanitcal Wahhabism are second to none. Of course the connection to the Mid-East is itself enough to arouse suspicion among an American public that's now hyper-sensistive to Islamic extremism in the wake of the Paris attacks and thanks to fact that the issue has been politicized by Presidential candidates on both sides of the aisle. Reuters says Farook came back into the US in 2014 and also traveled to Pakistan "at one point."
Here's what we said earlier:
Of course at the end of the day, two people opening fire with assault rifles on a holiday party seems pretty "terrifying" to us regardless of what inspired the shooters, but remember, crises like these are only "useful" in today's world if they serve someone's geopolitical ends so don't be surprised if the mainstream media soon turns up the San Bernardino equivalent of the forged Syrian passport found in Paris three weeks ago.
Sure enough, CNN now reports that Farook was "apparently radicalized" and was "in touch with people being investigated by the FBI for international terrorism." Similarly, NBC says Farook was in contact with "overseas individuals." The FBI now says Farook communicated with people who were on the bureau's radar in connection with a terrorism investigation. Officials also said the contact was with "people who weren't significant players," and was dated. There was no documentation of any "surge" in communication prior to the shooting.
We now know that Malik had a Pakistani passport and came to the U.S. on a fiancee visa. Farook entered the US with Malik in July of 2014. The FBI reportedly "doesn't know all of the countries" Farook visited. AP reports that in order to get the visa, Malik "had to submit to an in-person interview and biometric and background checks to ensure she wasn't a threat to public safety or national security."
According to The NY Times, the FBI is now treating the shooting as a terrorism case.
CNN also says investigators are analyzing an apparent "bomb lab" at Farook's residence. Authorities have reportedly discovered "hundreds" of tools that could be used to make IEDs.
As reported earlier, the couple used a DPMS model and a Smith & Wesson M&P 15 along with two handguns - a llama and a Smith & Wesson - in the attack. The rifles, two .223s, are capable of piercing bulletproof vests. The weapons were purchased legally.
Farook and Malik also placed a "device" consisting of three connected pipe bombs at the scene. Apparently, the remote detonator failed. 65-75 rounds were fired in the initial attack. 76 additional shots were fired at officers.
Found in the suspects' home:
- 2,500 .223 rounds
- 2,000 9mm rounds
- 12 pipe bombs
Found in the black SUV:
- 1,400 .223 rounds
- 200 9mm rounds
The trove of weapons police discovered indicated that the pair were "armed for a second attack."
Additionally, AP has the following account of Farook's family history:
The records obtained Thursday by The Associated Press show that Syed Farook's mother, Rafia, described her husband in 2006 as "irresponsible, negligent and an alcoholic."
She said she was forced to move out of her home with three of her children because her husband continually harassed her "verbally and physically and refused to leave the home."
She filed a no-contact, stay-away domestic violence protection petition on July 3, 2006. She alleged that same year that her husband attacked her while her kids were present, dropped a TV on her and pushed her toward a car.
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<------Obama upset it was Muslims
<------Obama upset it wasn't a white guy
c) all of the above
Meanwhile a piece of awesomeness from the democratic president Obama
CNN: " Obama: U.S. safe against ISIS attack".
Trove? Just what any county health worker needs to have at home in case he's insulted at a holiday party.
so tell me again how the feds know that these are the masked gunman?
what capacity were the magazines...10rnd or 30rnd. i dont see how he could purchase 'high capacity' weapons in calif...? when did the 10 rnd law go into effect if at all?
If he had high capacity mags, then he was breaking the law and should have been punished!
ISIS is contained. These were no doubt moderate terrorists as they were sunni and indoctrinated in Saudi Arabia.
Rizwan, Never marry an older woman ?
Trying to catch up...
Did the happy couple post a manifesto video?
How do we know a nice young Muslim couple didn't get added to the patsy list?
Was the wife really in shorts and heels when LE shot them?
After the frame up of the crockpot brothers and the FBI execution of their unarmed best friend, Its harder to convince me with CNN stories of radicalized Muslims who don't act hardcore at any other times.
Yep.
The part about the dude leaving his jacket may support your thought.
The just found his ID and tracked them down.
Everything else, as they say, is history.
that list doesn't sound like a trove of weapons and amunition... other than the pipe bombs, it sounds like about what you would take with you to the gun range and maybe have at home just in case...you can go through ammunition pretty fast at the range... I'd bet you could find similar amounts on most pleople at a gun range, or even in must gun owners homes...
I know where there is a Bigger Cache of weapons. About 11.5 Million Concealed Carry Permit Holders. One of these times, a CCP holder is gonna pull and shoot someone in the middle of a government False Flag Drill... Then what?
give me name off the dead?
Our allies the Saudis.
'Cause Israel told us so.
If a 223 can penetrate body armor....
Why the fuk even wear it?
What would my 300 win mag do with its handloaded hot loads?
Or my 450 mag?
Obviously a 223 can kill humans and I even shot a deer with one once, BUT it is not a hi-powered gun, not even close.........
A grizzly bear would eart it if you had one in the back country.....
Just sayin'
Indeed, may as well go straight to type IV.
"a 223 can penetrate body armor" - depends on the 223, and depends on the body armour.
A fully-loaded Interceptor IOTV will stop pretty much any 223 no problem (even greentips). It will even stop a 7.62 - but it might not stop 2, and you would be on your own after 3 or 4 rounds.
How about using SPELLCHECK why don't you.
In English, questions normally end with a question mark. Too bad there's no PUNCTUATIONCHECK.
All women under the age of 30 shoot high powered weapons out of black SUVs.
DHS & FBI doing a shitty job.
Simple solution, we just have to do it:
1. Declare Islam a terrorist rather than religious organiztion.
2. Make Islam illegal in the US
3. Send all the Muslims out of the country, back to Muslim nations, anywhere but here.
4. Bulldoze all the mosques, give their land back to the states they are in.
5. And this one only has to be said to brain-dead Democrats: close the borders
Until we do this, we are fkd.
1) Reduce "US Government" to 1% of current size and power.
The End (for now).
We will be pushed to that if the Muslims do not start policing themselves and squealing on these radicals.
Flag waving pseudo-Christian Americans are more of a threat to life and liberty around the world.
Just ask a few dozen wrecked nations!
well go to a Muslim nation then turd for brains
Why don't you fuck off to Israel you zionist cunt?
Or maybe youre already there - another paid troll for Askenazistan?
You can oppress all the Mudlims you want there. Fuck, you can murder little girls in cold blood and not go to jail.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/israel2
You're a piece of shit racist who on the other hand cries 'antisemite' at the drop of a factual hat. No surprise to see you egging on the Breitbart/Fox mouthbreathers who are about as libertarian in outlook as pamela gellar.
Yeah sieg heil right? There is only one solution. Follow the Constitution. You sound like a typical hypocrite... people initiate violence and now you want to do it too.
This sort of abject stupidity is part of the problem.
And whats that - no Danepol rushing in to object to your 'hate speech?'
Shocking!
Looks like Americanism instead of terrorism, Mr. FBI-dude.
p.s. I think the Police State has become Americanized.
Obama says we have to search ourselves. Done, nothing here.
Every time Obama slurs his speech, says half-truths and comes off as an inpotent ass ... another Trump voter has been created.
Seriously, the biggest advertisement for a new political order is the current political class.
From that link:
Shoebat is credible source. He notes the wife does not appear to be Pakistani.
Bogus name. Bogus race. Bogus baby. and the pics:
Only trace on internet are two photos of her, without hijab, in close encounter to her husband, which would never be posted by a devout muslim husband
If he radicalized after posting the pics, the pics would have been removed
On my radio, I just heard reported that police said couple did not wear body armor as reported. They wore tactical clothes loaded with supplies that looked like body armor to the uninitiated.
In other words, the couple would have been vulnerable to armed resistance
Politicans are trying to brainwash the sheeple to believe that resistance is futile
good post
2 pictures of the woman, she looks caucasion for sure
has a fake Islamic name too
not only have we got to deal with muslims but the racical converts
which means censorship
don't see any other way
Perhaps she is white, but self-indenfies as Muslim extremist.
Forgive me if this was already posted, but, y'all are barking up the wrong tree.
It's time for an Assault Clothing Ban. Do it for the children.
Bastards getting their shit off a computer. I say ban the damn things - far more evil than guns.
Notice how they're always killing random plebs like us. Never seem to target the owners nor executives of weapons making factories that actually profit from the killing of their children. So they're either the stupidest mofos ever or what gets said and how it is are 2 totally different things. I've said it before and I will say it again "Operation Gladio"
You pay for it all.
Good observation.
You'd think that with the military element of "total surprise" on their side, they'd go after a target that actually mattered to their "cause".
But nope - always just random goyim - usually a school. Slaughter of the innocent.
The takeaway?
Cling to your powerful rulers for protection. Same as the Spartans did with the ritual murder of the helots from time to time - The Krypteia
Same as it ever was.
Link for y'all:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypteia
You have to be pretty stupid to get talked into a Jihad. If they had half a brain they could have killed everyone in the building and never been caught.
Get a dude stoned enough, you could talk him into almost anything.
You call that a trove?
That's a few afternoons at the shooting range for some folks!
Easily consumed in any civilian practical rifle/handgun course.
I'd like to know what kind of ammo - there is a lot of cheap 223 that barely drops a coyote. Then there's the good stuff at $1.50 a round...
Well, now you know how much you need to "gun up" to deal with your local neighborhood muslim radical.
If Captain Zero, the HildeBeast and Statesman Harry Reid want gun control so badly, maybe Congress should pass a law that Muslims present in this country can't own or possess a firearm.
Now if you say that's discriminatory under our Constitution, I point to the American Indian. We never should have backed off of originally prohibiting them from buying alcohol, regardless of any Constitutional implications. You travel through the Ute Indian Reservation in Easter Utah in the summer and at mid-day you'll see them all passed out on their front lawns drunk. What a disservice we did to the American Indian by allowing them to buy alcohol. We destroyed them all, not to mention their culture and heritage.
In the story on the shooters' profile (for dating I guess since all terrorists need a I Love A Terrorist.cum, it claims he was born in Chicago. This makes him a U.S. Citizen. And the next article says the FBI will treat him as a terrorist. New rules, no rights.
He's dead. What rules and rights do you imagine might be applicable?
Did they find Jimmy Hoffa in there too?
so what ever happened to the third suspect?
didn't they have he/she in custody, thought I read that yesterday but I haven't seen any follow up on this since then.
has anybody come across anything about our mystery person today?
or did whoever it was just vanish into the ether...again?
isn't that the way it always goes, with out fail in these mass shootings and bombings.
one individual just gets memory holed within 24hrs of the event.
personally I'm betting these two were MKULTRA'd, no shouting allah ackbar while shooting up the party nor has any ranting manifesto pledging loyalty to IS been discovered, or at least it hasn't been made public. it just seems a bit low key and mechanical for terrorists doesn't it? not much of a real statement for the cause if you follow my meaning.
all very wind them up, push the button and watch them go isn't it? weird.
well, at least they were able to wrap this up by the close of business yesterday...
still I can't help but wonder about something. their kill to injured ratio was abnormally high, I mean these two actually killed more people than they injured. so they had to be trained, disciplined to keep their heads straight in all the chaos and keep making kill shots, keep making sure the wounds inflicted would be fatal. this probably meant assessing the damage done after a hit and firing again if necessary.
that's some cold blooded emotionless shit right there.
also they had body armor and explosives but were not strapped for the go out with a bang martyrdom style ending. no one and done for these guys, they were trying to get away, hell they even wore masks to hide there identity.
yet for all there apparent training, focus and will to kill and then evade capture by fleeing the scene they never once thought to ditch the vehicle they made their get away in? aren't insurgents/ terrorists trained to evade by blending in and laying low if blowing themselves up is not the goal? so these two prepped this whole thing, executed it with stone cold assassin accuracy and bailed out before the police responded...
and yet despite the level of competency on display they managed to get themselves killed in time for the evening news. so this husband and wife team went from pro killers to dying in a Hollywood style shoot out with the cops in one afternoon?
dead men (or women) tell no tales I guess.
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/12/02/authorities-search-redlands-ho...
from another poster, includes comment on neighbors not wanting to racially profile half a dozen moslems plus a comment on the arrest of the third suspect..(apologies for not being able to cite you)
p.s. h/t dame edna or was that barry mackenzie/
All they'd have had to do is ditch the car & camo and walk down the street. The police were looking for 3 white males. Not a middle eastern man and woman.
Note to self. Make sure to get a police scanner when attempting a crime.
Great analysis as always Marcusfenix.
Same questions rattling around in my head. I think the 3rd man is the WTC7 on this one.
The event and the getaway seems like two different execution methodologies. Almost as if it was two different teams.
300 million people and you plan and plan for what? 10- 20 individuals?
Thats about how many people die a day naturally sitting on the toilette.
And they weren't even high value hits.
Questions I have are from a higher perspective.
Do you want to do damage to your enemy or just momentary shock value.
Do you for example, take out a dozen main transformers and cut the juice to 50-100 million? Or just kill a couple dozen random average people?
If that is what 'they' wanted, why? What would be achieved by doing that?
Hmmmm. Smells like MKULTRA in here.
ANYONE who has watched the movie FX. Or FX2, and of course Wag the Dog cannot watch these events and automatically believe what they are seeing.
Oh, Here's the soundtrack for that 3rd man.
Remember when in Wag the Dog, they inserted the record willy nelson wrote into the national archives to appear like it had been there since the 40's.
The appearance of that octagon drug would seem to supporst your MKULTRA theory. I wonder what similar drug is found in the US by scrip or otherwise. I read something recently where it was alleged that Sirhan Sirhan still claimes zero memory of the incident he was involved in, might just be the truth.
Under Obama don't expect success against Islamists. He himself is an Islamist.
He supported the muslim brotherhood in Egypt, he did next to nothing against ISIS for years, and is backing up the Islamist Erdogan who is proven support terrorism.
Obama has put us in such a spot, that only a true smart man can get us out of it.
(facepalm) Obama administration is still withholding judgement. Could just be a workplace dispute.
Another facepalm. Could the husband have been radicalized? No. Not all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCId3kjWPs8
maybe this guys "bottled out" before the shooting!
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/11/26/body-found-in-middle-of-road-i...
Once again, a la the Tsarnaevs and Lee Harvey Oswald, they 'went live' after their overseas CIA training.
Who could've predicted?
The face-hiding stuff seems to be a pattern, and a new norm. What mad shooter, preparing for their own end, gives a fuck about their face being recognized?
And why body armor?
maybe they want the opportunity to kill as long as possible.
That only makes sense if their targets are armed or possibly armed. Holiday party at a hospital complex?
Not true, if they are planning, as this lot seemed to be, to go on to other attacks.
Identity concealment prolonged mobility.
Now you're just making shit up.
I couldn't compete with you in doing that.
They apparently had "spec op like" skills with their weapons. I know from experience that it is not easy to quickly and effectively engage multiple targets at once UNLESS they are in a line OR the whole thing is FAKE.
I dunno ... the "govt.-employee-accountant-that-also-is-a-merc" seems thin to me, not likely.
ERGO: I have a hard time believing the steaming pile of evenly divisible bullets BS coming from the U.S. govt.
Imagine how bad-ass Anders Breivik must be - carrying five weapons of three diffferent calibres, and enough ammo to get the job done, in an operation that took a 70 minutes to finish.
Total starting load: 20kg, just in weapons and ammo. Try engaging multiple mobile targets with that kind of load, when you're kind of a fattie (as Breivik was).
As I said at the time: if Breivik was that good, he should have been kitted up and sent to Afghanistan: he would have StevenSegal'd the entire Taliban in a matter of days.
Or Martin Bryant: 3 different weapons plus ammo, stunning accuracy at a variety of ranges with moving targets (all 3 weapons had iron sights). Bryant was a weed, too.
What it shows is that Rangers, Delta and SEALs are pussies - a 70kg weakling can do what they do, apparently... without being dropped in by a helo, and without air support. Not to mention: no optics (PEQ or ACOG make a HUGE difference with mobile targets).
Kidding-not-kidding.
People who have never tried to do shit while carrying a weapon and a full pack, have no fucking idea how hard it is to get an aimed shot off. All they have to go on is Hollywood, where the good guy shoots a 60 from his hip with unerring accuracy, and the bad guys weapons need zeroing (they're always low and behind the good guy... kicking up dust in his footprints).
Same weight to strength ratio for the skinny freak they got to play the Adam Lanza character at Sandy Hoax.
They weren't wearing body armour - they were wearing tac clothing with a bunch of stuff in the pockets. People mistook it for body armour. So says a comment further down.
I have never seen a blue-eyed Pakistani as fair-skinned as the supposed wife. Green eyes among some of the Aryans, yes... but never blue (and never ever with an iris with the grey outer ring that you see often in French blue-eyed women).
Face-hiding makes perfect sense if you're pretending to be someone else. Could any of the survivors categorically state that the shooters were the two dead suspects? If so, how? Voice?
No dragonskin means the perps weren't professionals (even though it was a free-fire - I mean 'gun free' - zone). That's the only thing that counts against this being a patsy op.
That famous NatGeo picture of an Afghan girl had blue eyes, same difference as Pakistanis, there are lots of tribes mixed up there.
Nope. Hers were green
She's called the "blue eyed Afghan girl"... :-/
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/46/136778360_cf98cc4f91_z.jpg?zz=1
FFS... Sharbat Gula (for verily, that is her name) is a Pashtun; that's why I mentioned the Aryans (Pasthuns are supposedly descended from Aryan/Persian invaders). Her eyes look green until you get real close - that's a very Pashtun trait (the other trait - in a different region - is almost yellow eyes... they're staggering).
Yes, there are plenty of Pashtun in Pakistan, but they ain't light-skinned, and they ain't blue-eyed. (Sharbat Gula is lighter than most Pashtun, but considerably darker than the alleged female shooter).
By contrast, the woman who is the supposed gun-person has not got the remotest hint of Pashtun features: by the look of the photos I've seen, she's a Caucasian (in the sense we usually mean it - a White European - rather than literally 'from the Caucasus'). Plus, her name is totally made up. Not that there's anything wrong with that - Muhammad Ali and Kareem Abdul Jabbar were both born with quite different names - but she is no way an indigene of Pakistan.
You are right that the region is very tribal: my Punjabi friends (some 'Pakistani' Punjabi, some 'Indian' Punjabi) can spot the difference between people from different parts of Punjab, almost fown to the village. I've got a reasonably decent eye for light-skinned subcontinental women (it's a gift, not a weakness lol)... and she ain't one.
Have you never seen this photo?
http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticF...
Who are the 21 killed? What are their names? Why isn't this information available?
some names here
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-vict...
They'll release them after they release the Sandy Hoax victim's names
The thing I'm wondering is whether these 3 were of the moderate terrorist variety....
What's wrong with those Buddhists, Baptists abd Catholics. They never seem to get radicalized. Why is it always left up to the mohammedans?
they haven't learned to coexist yet
need some muslims to teach them
How many Jains have you seen terrorize anyone?
(If you are not familar with them)
Jainism traditionally known as Jain dharma, belongs to the ?rama?a tradition and is one of the oldest Indian religions. It prescribes a path of non-injury (ahimsa) towards all living beings.
Practitioners believe non-violence and self-control are the means to liberation.
And they know what samsara is
Seems this guy in a suburb of Tampa named Muhammed chose the five finger discount approach to expensive bldg. materials yesterday.
When Muhammed later came back for a second helping the homeowner confronted him and shot him.
Muhammed is now recovering in a area hospital.
Muhammed, a convicted felon, has a lengthy arrest record.
Yeah the crusaders were all non catholic, right?
Hey spoojizzacum. You are being redundant when you say mentally ill and Muslim in the same sentence. Just thought I'd let you know!
For the record I tried.
You are redundant in that you are racist and mentally challenged, dolt.
Muslims are not a race! It is a religion. Who is the dolt exactly?!?!?!
Hence your name spoojizzacum!
Islam is not a religion. It is a framework for a theocracy. It masquerades as a religion. No others that I'm aware of structures a government like Islam does. Ever hear of a Christian or Buddist or Shinto State?
ALL religions arre frameworks for a theocracy. Also, the POPE; the VATICAN; check history if you want to see how Christianity inpinged on governments before secularism became the norm. Popes have been, in some ways, more powerful than kings based on the power they weilded. Muslims account for less than 1% of the US populattion and are all but invisible to most people.
Which is why we should make them more visible.
Maybe we should make gun owners more visible. Maybe they should wear a big red "G" on their shoulders so people can keep away from them.
That would make for a very polite society and it would lead to open carry which would lead to a very crime free society. Stats prove it but pro crime nutters just want to be nutters.
Any Muslim who has a desire to, or has injured another to make them convert to Islam is a fucking racist scumbag, mentally challenged, dolt.
I hope Obama leads the call to ban pipe bombs..
The only thing they need to ban here is the Quran.
...and ban the fuckers that read the asswipe koran
Okay - but can we do the bible too?
http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/03/what-the-quran-bashers-dont-want-you-to...
Found in the suspect's home:
Found in the black SUV:
NOTE THE ABOVE LIST VERY CAREFULLY. I see nothing unusual except for one big gigantic issue: THE PIPE BOMBS. Hey, Mr. President, enough is enough! We need to outlaw pipe bombs! OH WAIT! Pipe bombs were ALREADY illegal. So who sells them in the US? Any licensed PIPE BOMB DEALERS? How about at GUN SHOWS? Not there either, huh? So they are ALL OUTLAWED AND TOTALLY ILLEGAL. So please tell me, Obama the great, WHERE DID PIPE BOMBS COME FROM??? OH MY GOD!!! You're not ready to admit that the government passed all those nifty PIPE BOMB LAWS, but they DIDN'T WORK!? HOLY JESUS MOTHER OF MARY AND MOSES AND ETC.. So if your pipe bomb laws didn't work, why the f-ck would gun control laws work??? Let me ask you again Mr. President. How come? 1000 more times: HOW DID THEY GET PIPE BOMBS??? TOTALLY ILLEGAL!!! NOBODY IS SUPPOSED TO SELL THEM!!! So 1000 more times, WHY DIDN'T THE LAWS WORK???
Home Depot and Lowe's sell all the parts. Except the BOOM stuff. You can take that from ammo.
Any lame brain can do that if they wanted to.
I think they better start rounding up Plumbers and Heating and A/C guys!! (SARC)
As Swartzenager once said, in one of those brilliant movies, "Those idiots."
The Old Man
bring more muslins yup that what the usa needs lol a muslim black president...nuff said
the coming clash of civilizations: samuel huntington...told you so assholes in washington
Radicalized = read the Koran.
I had no say in the matter I was "Radicalized". Just a poor victim of the evil radicalizers. I hate all the PC language that is intended to ameliorate evil
DHS & FBI fucked up again.
To say they failed Implies you know their motives and goals.
The grunts failed by checking their balls at the recruiter's office when they joined.
No, they're working as designed.
The FBI, like all police forces, was created to investigate crimes THAT HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED!
They are not designed(able) to prevent crime.
Squid
"Authorities have reportedly discovered "hundreds" of tools that could be used to make IEDs."
Oh yeah? Well, that answers it. Total terrorist. Where'd he get those bomb-making tools? The bomb depot? What makes them bomb tools exactly? Are they made by Jihad Internationale?
Tools soon to be outlawed.
“The Koran teaches fear, hatred, contempt for others. Murder as a legitimate means of spreading and maintaining this devil’s doctrine. It denigrates women, divides people into classes and demands blood and more blood.
That a camel driver creates an uproar in his one-horse town; that he wants to make his fellow citizens believe that he had a talk with the Archangel Gabriel; that he brags he was carried away to Heaven and received there a part of this indigestible book, whose every page makes healthy human reason quiver; that to create respect for this book, he subjects his land to fire and sword; that he strangles fathers, abducts daughters; that he offers those defeated the choice of death or accepting his faith.
That, of a certainty, is something no one can excuse, unless he was born a Turk or superstition has extinguished any natural light of his understanding.”
~Voltare
Avert your eyes from the writings of Winston Churchill (mother jewish), many statesmen and scholars who make strong criticism of the Talmud and Zionists on similar grounds.
Medievalism of any sort must not be allowed to take root in the United States of America, lest we fall back into the old ways.
Voltaire also said: to learn who rules over you, find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
Just for the hell of it, here are Winston's musings on the subject:
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property—either as a child, a wife, or a concubine—must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proseltyzing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science—the science against which it had vainly struggled—the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."
Britain's Daily Mail newspaper reports that Farook had a clash of religion argument with a 'jewish' co-worker two weeks before. The names of the some of the deceased have been released, and include 'jews'.
Early reports soon after the shootings included comments from a former co-worker who said there has been a high turnover of staff due to discontent with the 'management'.
It is pitiful that this horrible event is used for political capital by many sides. It is terrible for the USA and its Constitution to be dragged into the medievalist feuds of relatively new people to the USA who bring their mutual hatreds with them, and pollute public discourse with their alien supremacist ideas, while expecting the majority of Americans of all colors, creeds and religions to pay for, die for and get involved in their foreign agendas, contrary to the Constitution which has been routinely dismissed by all sides of CONgress as merely a 'piece of paper', although it is supposed to be the highest law in the land, and it would provide the protection which most people seek as they leave their ruined old worlds behind them, ostensibly.
In my opinion.
The biggest problem with the entire 'management' of the USA today is its indulgence for alien ideas, and aggressive politicall plots at home and abroad. And that pushes people over the edge at home and abroad.
America First. Israel and Zionists should join the queue of other countries seeking trade and friendship with the USA, nothing more.
"Farook had a clash of religion argument with a jewish co-worker two weeks before. The names of the some of the deceased have been released, and include jews."
From terrorist to hero in two sentences...
The rabid hate speech directed at anyone who declines Zionist aggression is making enemies, even among previously mild mannered people, it seems.
Such a pity. So unnecessary.
If this young man and his wife 'went postal' as the saying goes, then it is a very sad reflection on modern America when someone born, educated, qualified and a bright future ahead of him and his family in America feel driven to violence - whoever stirred him up at home or abroad. Bloody pity.
Of course, the haters ignore the sorrow of his family and mosque who immediately sympathised with the victims, and expressed total confusion over how he and his wife could get involved in such violence. That is IF their involvement is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Innocent until proven guilty. I want the evidence.
You didn't understand my comment.
Actually, I did understand. I prefer the Constitution. Party on, dude...
The problem with you new Bolshevik sympathisers is that you are afraid to confront your biggest problem: private banks and Zionism.
Cameroon now bombing oil wells, the infrastructure of Syria, rather than bombing the convoys of illegal oil thieves who filter that stolen goods through Turkey (Donmeh jews) and then to Israel as the biggest user and marketer of stolen oil.
Cameroon saying the RAF must bomb for 3 years at least.
Get off your knees, subject of the Crown, the Rothschild led sovereign City of London banksters who have no loyalty to any land or people but merely use you, cannon fodder and tax slaves.
Parliament, ever the faithful slaves to its sovereign City of London banksters who rig every market, fund every side of every war, and make their little pet fiefdom in...Israhell.
1776. This is not over...
"The problem with you new Bolshevik sympathisers is that you are afraid to confront your biggest problem: private banks and Zionism."
To suggest that I am a "new Bolshevik sympathiser" or in some way a supporter of Zionism confirms that you didn't understand my earlier comment.
No problem.
"NBC says Farook was in contact with "overseas individuals.""
Well, that's it. Slam dunk. Farook is (was) a radical terrorist.
Anybody that's in contact with "overseas individuals" is a terrorist.
/s
Jail me immediately. I am in contact with family and friends overseas. Meanwhile, the AIPAC and dual citizen brigade are at bigger risk if that becomes part of the criteria for suspicion.
And what about those Hindu, Sikh, Buddhists. Maybe we should all be locked up...just to keep us safe?
Maybe we are heading to the point where "anybody" who wishes to have any contact with "overseas individuals" will need permission from the State, just in case our contacts have radical views (defined as dissent from official "group-think"), may be classed as non-violent terrorists or dread the thought: jihadists.
We are heading into the black hole of totalitarian madness.
Which overseas individuals? Those ISIS guys we armed and trained in Libya and Syria?
Indeed. NBC don't say. By simply mentioning such a useless piece of information, their suggestion is that "anybody" who has contact with any "overseas individuals" for unknown reasons is a potential suspect.
"Dear Farook, the brothers here are pleased you and your wife have decided on Jihad for Allah! We will raise your child in teh Faith to also become a fearless warrior against the Infidel."
--Yours Truly,
Alciaduh
What a sweetheart!
Tell me that f'r isn't insane.
It looks to me like emotionally unstable people exist on all sides, and it is the job of statesmen and women to remind them of their duties as citizens of the USA under the Constitution.
As George Washington advised: trade with all, be a friend to all, do not get involved in foreign entanglements.
Keep the Constitution. Keep the guns. Return to term limits asap, and the 10th Amendment too.
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I want to know what the argument was about that sparked Mr. Turban and his wife to action. Using logic, since it was a holiday celebration, obviously early probably to assuage his Mooslim faith, someone ragged on Mohamed because Mr. Turban seemed a little ungrateful for what Jesus Christ did for us all. That's all it takes with some certain ethnic people. Doesn't help that he's surrounded by filthy, bacon eating, pasty infidels all day at work. I'm sure his wife was sympathetic towards his daily sacrifice to make their dream survive in the Great White Satan USA.
STFU...idjit.
Being a Muslim and killing others that are not Muslim has nothing do with Islam or their faith.
Every Muslim ever harmed by a non Muslim for what ever reason is because the attacker hates Islam and is anti Muslim.
When Islam is engaged in Jihad and acquires a building which once was the worship place of those converted, that building may become a Mosque. At that point if anyone attempts to return that building to its first faith, this is a crime against Allah and the faithful can not let that happen. A call to Jihad may occur since Allah might lose face.
When a Sunni Muslim kills a Shia Muslim and vice-versa the Muslim faithfull scratch their heads and say "the will of Allah". When a non Muslim kills a Shia or Sunni, "this is an attack on Islam, an attack on our faith , call the faithful to protect us".
Such a fungile concept of right and wrong makes it easy to beat your wife and blow yourself up.
I read your comment, but it has nothing to do with the Constitution. I really tried to understand what you were saying, but it is as foreign to me as the Talmud.
I want you people of the Koran and the Talmud to understand this:
The Constitution.
Yer getting on our nerves, and tolerance for you people is wearing thin.
Your writing is startlingly stupid.
?????? WTF ?????? Do you know ANYTHING about Islam? Apparently NOT!!!!
Good thing the FBI squirrelled away his computers. Don't want people finding out that he's been in contact with them. That would suck.
Oh don't worry... Thos kind of attack? (Suicide with as much casualties as you can) Will be your norm.
I just wonder, why it took so long. Some americans debates me, ridicule me, when i said, what US do in ME? Will haunt back to americans back home. You think 2 oceans will protect you from this kind of attack?
Well.. you got that proof right now.
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Let me makes predictions.
1. This terrorists will either use latin america, black, white to infiltetes US.
2. Buying weapons is easy when you are not look like ME persons.
3. Then this terrorists will be active in church (you still don't think muslim would not enter church?). This is the best way to avoids LEA surveillance.
4. Buying household items. Masking as normal groceries (by making other normal kitchens things like vegetables, etc).1
5. Synthesize weapons from these household items. Makes small batch inside abandon structures. Americans seldoms wants to wonder in deserted area.
6. Becomes a dumpster diver. To find precursor and material untraceable back to you. US goods are identified back to its casing. So terrorists need to find untraceable stuffs to conceals this.
7. Now find a crowded places. What better that church goer praying in xmas day? Malls giving discount pack with childrens in 1 place? Americans always horrified if children involved. Making terror impact value.
8. When entering this kind of premises, they won't use militatry dress. That's stupid. Use the most expensive suits. The most epensive parfumes, and come in style (expensive cara. Cadilac, etc). Americans always worship "loaded" people. Rich people WILL GET special treatments. Like No Patting search for bombs. That means those suicide vest won't be detected. And looking like rich people? Will get american crowded near you. Very good when terrorists once to get as much casualties as possible.
9. After detonation of first bomb? Americans now? Wapecially in city? Will usually crowded near accident site to makes selfies/insta/whatever. Wait until sufficient crowds built up. Then ignites the second bombs.
10. With even bigger casualties? EMT/Cops/LEA/Private securitoies will be many more coming. So if you dress like EMT person? You'll be allowed inside. Omce youre on the centre of that selected fist responder teams? Detonates the third bombs.
11. On other hospital site? People would crowds near the Emergency entrance. Waiting to see whether their loved one are one of the casualties. Perfect conditions to detonates the fourth bombs.
12. Wait severals days until mass remembrancw conducted with massive crowds. Time to detonates the fifth bombs.
Repeat step 9.
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Well.. How's that scenarios??
Still don't think what happens across the oceans don't have effect on your life?
Your govt killings civillian in other country don't have coinsequences to your life?
Still can't understand this?
Your comments mocking muslims don't provokes hatred towards you?
What i see is you thinks a highest value in christianity/atheism. That creates a hole in your complacency. That is exploitable. To anybody that would like to blow up you with them.
Still don't get it??
Do you feel lucky? Do you? Keep your medievalist claptrap elsewhere. We are dealing with that sort of alien thinking in CONgress in our own way, in our own time.
I suggest you stay exactly where you are. A bit of friendly advice. Carry on in your own way. Keep out of my way.
Never become the full focus of my undivided attention.
Arm yourselves.
Tis our right, and our duty under the Constitution.
On this I agree with you!
Hey Seyd, you got any more of that blonde Lebanese hashish? Us dissafected working stiffs could use a taste.
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Easy to use drug mules, isn't it. Pity the controllers capitalise on that. Mind how you go...
Read your history man. Assassin = hashish. But normal folks just like it for fuckin and such.
Excuse denied. Have a nice day ;-)
As Obama & Chicago's "Godfather" breath a sigh of relief as the press "coverage" has "shifted".
Dear Leader needs to resign.
You can't have a high capacity mag (>10) in California! So how were those guns legal?
Case stinks indeed. Black military gear by employed guy who just had a 6 month old daughter and owned illegal assault rifles? Just like militarily operating highly muscular Paris shooters were wearing, while headshot pictures in media were showing couple of anaemic Mediterranean teenagers, some unidentifiable because they exploded. Right. Perhaps needs to be justification for boots on ground in Syria? WTF is going on?