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Caught On Tape: Russia Destroys ISIS Oil Transport Cars, Al-Qaeda Training Camp
From a reputational perspective, this was a decisively bad week for Turkey. In the immediate aftermath of Ankara’s brazen move to shoot down a Russian Su-24 near the Syrian border, Vladimir Putin accused the country of being complicit in the funding on ISIS.
Those allegations stung, especially in light of the fact that Putin delivered the accusations while sitting right next to Jordan’s King Abdullah. What Turkey didn’t know, however, was that The Kremlin fully intended to launch an all-out PR campaign to implicate Erdogan and his family in the funding of international terrorism.
In a dramatic presentation delivered on Wednesday, the Russian MoD outlined the supply routes ISIS uses to smuggle its stolen crude and as it turns out, all roads literally lead to Turkey. This is of course broadly consistent with our assessment of the situation as outlined in the following four pieces:
- The Most Important Question About ISIS That Nobody Is Asking
- Meet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey's President
- How Turkey Exports ISIS Oil To The World: The Scientific Evidence
- ISIS Oil Trade Full Frontal: "Raqqa's Rockefellers", Bilal Erdogan, KRG Crude, And The Israel Connection
This all comes on the heels of Russian airstrikes on ISIS oil convoys which Moscow claims provoked Ankara to engage The Kremlin’s warplane late last month.
Well, if you thought Russia was set to let up on destroying Islamic State oil trucks and crude infrastructure, or on bombing ISIL and al-Nusra (both of which are supported by Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar) you can think again, because as the following clips show, Moscow is now hell bent on proving a point to the financiers of Sunni extremism.
A strike on an "automobile column transporting oil products" in Aleppo:
Russian bombers, meet al-Nusra training camp:
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Let game begin!
Go get them Vlad, fuck these assholes right where it hurts. Fuck Erdogan on the way as well, and fon't forget McCainISIS.
I love it every time Putin punks the faggot Soetero.
I have been wondering why it took Turkey to take down Russia's SU-24 for all the "exposé". It was after all, an open secret Turkey helped facilitate ISIS oil sale, wasn't it?
Must we wait for US to fire on Russia's plane for a 9/11 "exposé" too???
Russia does not need to expose 9/11. The evidence is on the 'net for anyone to see. Instead, the average american shlub needs to pull his head out of his ass, stop watching the kardashians and have the balls to do something.
Those brownies got PWNED
YEAH !!!
http://goo.gl/7tHnDu
what? You mean the Russians didn't drop "Please run away before we bomb the ever loving shit out of you." leaflets first?
How unfare. ;-)
Still waiting for targetting videos for the US and British strikes. We know you have 'coz you sure loved to show images of precision bombs going down chimneys etc when you were running War on Iraq I and II.
The Russian bombs aren't very precise. They missed the schools, wedding parties, mosques and hospitals.
It is hard not to be a massive fan of Putin, Russia and the Russian people.
I also have mega respect for the Syrian people and Assad plus the SAA (Syrian Amry and military). They are incredibly brave people.
I only wish the Neo cons and Neo libs were in the oil transport trucks when the russians are hammering them.
Also F Erdogan, his Turk cronies and Turkey in general. Maybe the Turkish people will finally rise up but Turkey in general is a really shitty country and always has been.
Add a big shout out for the Houthis too. They are kicking Saudi ass in Yemen and now Saudi.
....stop watching the kardashians and have the balls to do something.
that will never happen because most Americans are scared of reality (and their government). I've lived around the world and have never seen people so scared and so deluded
.....exceptionalism has it's burdens........ welcome to Dumbfukistan ...... I love Celente's lables
I figure they will remove their head long enough to watch the ZH propellor heads get rounded up then go back to the Kardashian upskirt shots. No way will they miss those, even to save the scrap of paper known as the Bill of Rights.
Interestingly, the birthplace of,
Three Preposterous Religions!
Is the Place of Reckoning?
....is there only three??
Pootie, your only mistake was to not invite all the San Bernadino home invasion media types to visit the oil transport column prior to vaporization.
"Aleppo" is at least 20 miles from the Turkish border. If Russia wanted to emphasize the Turkish connection, they should bomb the tankers within eyesight of the Turkish border, so as to allow Erdogan's minions to personally watch their "profits" go up in smoke, and provide further evidence of exactly where the stolen oil was headed to.
Kind of reminds me of that James Bond flick where the bad guys dissolve cocaine in gas tankers. The one with Wayne Newton in it.
Wayne Newton? You're thinking of Vegas Vacation, only I don't think there was any cocaine involved, and I'm sure Bond wasn't in that movie.
But I'll put $2 on Guess Which Hand.
There are billions of people in the world with internet access, with apparently a lot of free time to create otherwise worthless content
http://jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/Joe_Butcher
Licence to Kill, 1989.
"After being notified by "Q" (with a disguised broom two-way radio) that a convoy of cars had left the Sanchez villa for the OMI (Meditation Institute), Pam found Sanchez' men dismantling her plane at the airport, supposedly for an overhaul ordered by the drug lord. Sanchez was flying by helicopter (with the Stinger missiles delivered from Dario) to meet the Hong Kong businessmen (and Bond) who were being driven to OMI - Professor Butcher's profitable front for his drug business. In a secret manufacturing/production area beneath the Institute, Truman-Lodge explained to the tour group how ingenious research scientists in the laboratory had discovered a formula to allow cocaine to be completely dissolved and undetectable in gasoline, and then later reconverted back to powder."
http://www.filmsite.org/series-jamesbond16.html
(If Wayne Newton was in it, he is below #6 on the lineup)
He may have been thinking of Robert Davi who played the villan. In real life he is a good guy and a conservative. he does not like Obola.
Azaz, Syria is where the oil tankers are. Go to google map and you can see the tankers.
they should just start a carpet bombing run at the tail of one of these stolen oil convoys and keep it running through turkey all the way to israel
Dear Mr. Putin:
Kick their narrow jihadist asses off the planet!
Thanks!
Sincerely,
Canada.
Don't they have the equivalent of B-52s? Can't they just Carpet-Bomb the trucks?
Or is "Carpet" bombing racist?
It depends if you are whiter than the target... Carpet Bombing some ethnical groups can get you a Peace Nobel Prize!
Sexist.
Funny!
Seems like bombing is an inefficient way to destroy a convoy. There are only so many bombs or missiles on a plane per run. Why don't they use machine guns in a strafing run right down the entire column? Don't modern jets have machine guns anymore? Maybe that is too WWII and outdated.
We have the A10 Warthog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvIJvPj_pjE
It really does not seem cost effective at this rate. The cost of a guided missile vs the cost of one or two semi's loaded with oil.
The US uses cluster bombs which might not be approved by treaty but they use them. If Russia used cluster bombs they could wipe out the entire column. As it is, a couple trucks burn, it is a good show, the rest of the trucks continue. From what I see.
One of the big gets for the MIC in Desert Storm was the ability to showcase for the world and field test their arsenal. I don't doubt that's a big part of the S-400 deployment the moskva battleship and the use of missiles when as you point out machine guns or other methods being far more "cost effective". This is invaluable field testing of Russian weaponry. They might just sell some lower tier models to their friends after they show off their wares.
Putin doesn't have to destroy all the tankers. He just has to give the other drivers something to ponder at their leisure. Pour encourager les autres.
I'm definitely rootin' for Putin.
Right.
“Bilal Logistics is rapidly expanding its range of exciting opportunities for tough truck drivers to collect cargos from historic Syrian cities like al-Raqqa and deliver them to Batman. Flexible hours, excellent pay, generous life insurance policy. Apply immediately!”
Because bombing also fucks up the roads and makes it harder for the bandits to transport goods.
Probably US would carpet bomb everything including weddings. Looks like the Russian army is the only army in the world able to perform real surgical strikes.
Don't forget hospitals. We have AC-130s for those.
That wasn't a barren patch of desert. It was an ISIS stronghold.
Dude! Carpet bombing is not the proper nomenclature. It's Prayer Rug Bombing, please!
Get some!
A few weeks of real intention can be quite enlightening!
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/road-to-ww3-time-to...
Turkey’s First Son Bilal Erdogan Enjoys Dinner With #ISIS Leaders http://ow.ly/VsgPc
Where are the follow up bombs? I think they are dropping the wrong shit or they are cleaning out the old crap first. I want to see images like the highway of death in Iraq. I want to see rows of white Toyotas in flames and convoys of tankers melting in the sand. What is this one at a time shit?
Thank you Russia.
Did I just say that?
Holy hell.
Thanks Putin.
Hey, Big O, Check mate bitch
Thanks Putin.
Hey, Big O, Check mate bitch
The Russian Patriarch is carving up Turkey.
Obama? Weak sauce for our family dinner.
samantha power on PBS- "Our slogan has been to degrade and defeat..." Russia not always helpful, we need to get the community involved in the antiisil fight...We have ample time to screen refugees... refugees have been central to the building of our country... obama's chief priority has been to keep Americans safe... "the spectre of a threat not moored in fact", she says after what just happened. THESE PEOPLE ARE F'NN IDIOTS!
They are not idiots. They are evil evil liars.
If you really want to thank them, do what I plan to do on TGIF:
Buy real Russian Vodka. Not that Polish or Latvian crap.
Nazdrovye, Vladimir Vasilych!
p.s. Where's that Chekov? Lemme buy him a round when we're off-duty.
Sorry Kirk but vodka originated in Poland and the best stuff is still made there.
On the other hand I might go to the local Ukrainian deli and buy Russian chocolates and candy. Still owned by Russia and not Nabisco or another Western conglomerate that bought up all the EU East European brands.
I know the Russian stuff will not have GMO and be made old school style.
Russia makes quality chocolates? Damn, where can we buy some?
Rodnik Samara Brewery
but I doubt you can find
Nice way to "wipe out" some competition too.
Putin: Three level Chess with Spock.
Obama: Checkers with a 4 year old.
We are doomed.
It may seem clever now, but wait!, with Germany entering the conflict expect the falling VW's to wreak havoc in the russian's morale...
We volked some folks.
"The Islamic State is hellbent on world domination -- and a return to real gold coins."
When ISIS took over Iraq's second largest city last year, it stole nearly $450 million from Mosul's central bank. That included unknown, vast quantities of gold bullion, according the International Business Times and several military experts keeping track of ISIS. ISIS believes the global economy's current system of paper money is a disaster. A video produced by the ISIS propaganda media unit explains this in a five minute video online called "Dark Rise of Banknotes and The Return of the Gold Dinar.” In the video, they condemn the rise of bank notes like the U.S. dollar, which started as "a mere claim to gold" and are now "a worthless piece of paper.”
For ISIS, only pure gold currency will do -- even though economists say an ISIS gold currency is doomed because the population would most likely want to hoard gold rather than use it as currency. Look back to medieval times, ISIS explains in the video. While the Islamic empire that stretched across the Middle East and Africa used gold and silver, "the rest of Europe... lay witness to the dark rise of banknotes, born out of the satanic conception of banks, which mutated into a fraudulent... financial system of enslavement orchestrated by the Federal Reserve in America," the video says.”
Gold does have drawbacks. It's extremely heavy. Consider what it takes to carry $1 million. A duffel bag stuffed with $100 bills weighs 22 pounds. It would weigh 58 pounds with gold.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/04/news/world/isis-gold/
yeah...Gold is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much heavier that worthless peices of paper.....
The Islamic State group on Thursday posted online a gruesome video showing six of its child soldiers killing Syrian security forces held captive by the jihadists.
Titled "To the Sons of Jews," the slickly-produced video shows dozens of boys, who appeared to be about 10 years old, studying religious texts and learning hand-to-hand combat.
Six of the boys are chosen by their instructor to "send a message" to IS's opponents by executing security forces held by the group.
IS's "Cubs of the Caliphate" programme provides intense military and religious training to children throughout the jihadist group's areas of control in Syria.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/is-child-soldiers-kill-captives-in-g...
Cubs of calipha t e - nice spin
$1m in real money SHOULD have some heft to it.
Gold AS currency is a 19th century concept and in practice the last time the Caliphate had anything like stroke...and as oil salesmen, I'll bet they would like it!!
They no doubt envision all the gold in the world flowing into the middle east as all the oil leaves. Good luck with that!
While I think money should be at least partially backed by gold it doesn't have to be 100% backed up...as long as currency is no longer created as an instrument of debt, that will solve a lot of problems.
and why would they hoard it? B/c it is a store of value... the price chabges, but the value remains as compared to a $1USD or Confederate Note?
or 0 - you could just memorize a single bitcoin private key which can hold pretty much any value, billions, trillions, etc
which no one can hack, steal or tax
and its
- not controlled by any central authority
- not debt based
- easy, cheap and fast to transfer, secure, verify and granulate
- predictable, limited in supply (no debtfiat created out of thin air)
- efficient and easily exchangeable store of value that is trusted and decentralized (out of the hands of banksters and governments full of criminal psychopaths)
- technological invention of this century, which is secured by science, math and open consensus, with trust machine blockchain at its core
- and for the traders: 24/7 non-stop trading
Life is fleeting.
If you memorize a private bitcoin key, and then you have a heart attack, or get hit by a bus, or SWATed to death - you take your "store of value" to the next life, where there isn't any evidence of internet access.
or you could just leave it with your attorney....
or use op_hodl (aka checklocktimeverify), advanced multisig, two factor wallets, time locked funds, etc
basically with this new feature it may become impossible to seize bitcoins from websites in the future, theft even by insiders (like mt. gox fiasco) or prevent authorities to steal/seize bitcoins (like us marshals stealing ulbrichts 144k bitcoins)
and what happens to your gold hoard buried somewhere/locked in a safe/vault if you dont tell anyone?
what about surveillance drones recording your attempt to "hide" it?
thieves/government seizure from safes/vaults?
plundering during war/revolutions?
You're missing the forest for a couple trees.
Perfect security does not exist.
The minute you rely on external persons or technologies, you inevitably create opportunities for theft, hacking, or confiscation. The alternative carries other risks (even absent a gun to your head), but if you cannot enable disposition of your property in the event of death or incapacitation, then it becomes useless, except in a very abstract sense.
you could timelock the funds so even if you die, at one point in the future it becomes available to whoever your will assigns your private key?
Again, Perfect security does not exist. (except in the sales pitches of shills and snakeoil salesmen)
If you put a time lock any asset, you restrict your access to it. If you grant access to an asset to someone else, you create opportunities for loss theft or seizure.
thats the beauty of programmable features, you can use timelock on your funds and still use these while the timelock is active (so you can keep spending your funds, then if you happen to die, whatever remains goes to whoever gets keys once timelock expires)
Then it's not actually a timelock, and it's just a misleading sales gimmick, and you are back where you started. You cannot eliminate all risk, it must some form, be it loss, theft, confiscation or whathaveyou.
BTW - I wouldn't link to BitCoin Myth Bullshit. It's so loaded with logical fallacies, false analogies, propositions and statements so as to destroy any credibility or claim to objectivity.
whatever you decide to call it, as long as it serves the purpose
and if you like to sift through bullshit visit bitcointalk :p
Heaven's Avenues are paved with gold!
(You need backstreets to have Avenues.
The backstreets are unpaved,
much like Afghanistan.
Same as it always was.)
I made sure that my lawyer has a large, sealed envelope that he gives my kids when I snuff it. I update it once a year.
Inside are several USB memory sticks, containing all the vital info they will need. E.g. Account types, ID/Username, Passwords... and location of boating accident. The kids have the pass-phrase memorized for the encrypted files. Long before he passed away, my father made me co-owner of his bank accounts and properties -- so inheritance was not an issue. What's to stop you from doing something similar?
While America is busy looking at what the russians are doing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDDMWKjZW9Q
Link to today's full Russian presentation with English subtitles (11 mins), that above clips come from:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhvM07Ry9mI
"... [militants] tried to hide in the well-equipped concrete dug-out shelter..."
Didn't work out too well though, thanks to the BETAB-500 concrete piercing bomb.
So Putin won't take Erdogan's telephone calls, and he has a lowly Brigadier General giving pres briefings effectively calling Erdogan a lair and terrorist supporter, and then provides video of Russian drones watching western drones watching oil smuggling the Turkish-Syrian border and accuses western intelligence of failing to disclose that which they of obviously aware of since they flying x hundred surveillance flights predominately along the border...
I think the foreign "creators" of ISIS aren't as smart as they think they are. They created a slickly produced insurgent propaganda beast, but they failed to to upgrade their own capacities proportionately... which leaves them woefully ill equipped to counter Russia who has stepped up its game to match the direct and indirect adversaries.
good catch, I didn't understand the significance of the Russian drones watching the "so-called coalition" drones until you pointed it out.
Damn. I wish I spoke and understood Russian.
I do not watch shit TV of shit Hollywood. I do go to restaurants and stores that may have CNN or something else running. Endless lies and shit about phony "ISIS." Endless scare mongering.
The f**King zio elites letting islamics flood into Europe, USA, NZ, AU and Canada. Homeland Security - what a joke and scam.
Closed captions are your friend.
pour it on vlad - that's all.
When I Root 4 Putin, I feel Great.
Is that Wrong?
Is it wrong to root against Langley? Against DC, Wall Street? Neocons? ZiosThugs? the MSM?Hollywood? Libs? FedRes? Mic?
Goooooo Putinnnnnnnnn
When I Root 4 Putin, I feel Great. Is that Wrong?
N O !
At a fundamental level there are two states of being, good or evil.
Either state is normally discernible by the company one keeps.
Is it wrong to cheer for them to bomb the 1500 Turkish troops in N. Iraq, who are there to...
(a) Cover their pumping tracks
(b) Steal more oil
I mean, they could be mistaken for ISIS fighters, and they are doing what the US has alwasy done: Pursue the terrorists wherever they fled to. Right?
No. I think they are the perfect excuse for a tactical nuke.
The first country to use a nuke loses everything. It must not happen. I understand your frustration, but consider the implications of what you are endorsing.
Putin; Russian Federal Assembly, Dec. 2, 2015 (Regarding Turkey):
" if they expected a nervous or hysterical reaction from us, if they wanted to see us become a danger to ourselves as much as to the world, they won’t get it. They won’t get any response meant for show or even for immediate political gain. They won’t get it.'
'Our actions will always be guided primarily by responsibility – to ourselves, to our country, to our people. We are not going to rattle the sabre. But, if someone thinks they can commit a heinous war crime, kill our people and get away with it, suffering nothing but a ban on tomato imports, or a few restrictions in construction or other industries, they’re delusional. We’ll remind them of what they did, more than once. They’ll regret it. We know what to do."
Sounds like a statesman. Compare this to the current Cuntmander in Chief of the US
We Cuntmandered some folks...
Compare it to any politicians in America. Almost 99.9% are clowns. Sen. Jeff Sessions and a few others in the House are tolerable. The rest are sell out clowns controlled by the zoligarchs.
Putin sounds like a really wise, sensible and responsible person.
Didn't look like much was really detroyed to me 3 trucks, and one side of a court yard? Hope they came in for a second bomb run....
"Ankara’s brazen move to shoot down a Russian Su-24 near the Syrian border"
They never would have shot down the plane without full backing of Neo-con Washington DC. I suspect that Neo-cons and their Turkish and ISIS allies really believed that a quick effective shoot down of a Russian plane over Syria would stop Russia in it's tracks and force a rethink in Moscow. Remember, we are talking Neo-Con/Zionists here! They really believe they have the power to force Moscow out of Syria if they just dare to attack. This Neo-con plan backfired, badly.
Russia is in Syria to aid it's alliance with Syria, to prevent Washington's Neo-Con war from destroying the Syrian state. Putin has warned that he has not finished with the SU shoot down, but instead has just begun to exact payment. I can not confirm this as fact, but some Russian sources say that the Turkmen who killed the Russian pilot are already dead, killed by a combination of special forces and air strikes. The same special forces from Syria that rescued the pilot also advanced on these Turkmen and used well placed bombing and commando ops to wipe them out. This at least was said in a story about the Iranian and Syrian rescue of the pilot, the resuce being on PART of the operation, the wipe out of the pilot's killers being part two of the operation.
Russia is releasing so much proof of Turkey's ISIS alliance, that the West is mostly silent, because evidence is real, and just can't be refuted.
The difference between Neo-con loud mouths and Russia is that Russia just only says what it knows and only does what it says. No hype, just action.
ISIS is convinced that their CIA alliance will keep them safe, but now the doubt is setting in. Turkey is their safe haven and supply depot, also Russian released proof that ISIS fighters are treated all across Turkish health care system, and retuned to Syria when recovered, all at Turkish expense.
"This Neo-con plan backfired, badly."......... The Jury is still out!
Can Iran, Iraq, Hezbollah, Russia hold out against -> Germany / UK / France / US / SA / Turkey?
all the second team illegally on sovereign land unauthorized without a peep from UN
The objective here is to dismember Iraq and Syria so that Iran doesnt get the sphere of influence AND SA& Qatar gets their NG Pipeline.
The Golan Heights belong to Syria - now occupied by Israel with Drillling Rights given up by Israel (even though they agreed 5 years ago to turn the GH back to Assad as terms of settlement) to Genie LLC (Symbol: GNE) Newark, NJ with cast of American and UK characters in on one of the biggest new finds in ME. The eastern end of Syria / western Iraq - to Turkey via (Symbol: GENL.L) London based controlled by the "same" family as GNE.
so Israel and Turkey get the property western Iraq / eastern Syria and Israel gets western Syria and the pipeline goes thru - ISIS is problem until its not - Man behind the curtain says disappear!
will Iran end up with the prize?
So far, the Neo Con plan is not playing out for Syria. By now, for example, Damascus should have fallen, and the subsequent puppet government would have signed over the golan heights for a pittance and/or bribes.
Without Air power and ground troops, the USSA and stooges cannot win against Russia, Iran, Iraq and Syria. Their ISIS pets cannot withstand the combination of Russian air power, Syrian Army and Iranian support troops.
Only Turkey might be willing to field an army in the region. I suspect however, that this could lead to Erodgans downfall. Should Russia decide to arm the Kurds, thereby threatening the integrity of the Turkish state, the Military might step in and take out Erdogan in return for Russia backing off on help to the Kurds.
Russia's big advantage is having the Syrian Arab army and it's allies. These ground forces means Russia can slam front line enemy positons and the SAA can than assualt them and hold the ground. Plus the population is Syrian, and presents no threat, so a safe zone is safe.
Putin said that he is not done, but only beginning. If the Grey wolves were not all killed by the Syria speacial Ops and Russian attack Helicopters, they will be hunted down. I expect any survivors ran for Turkey fast.
You are right as well, pre-planned shoot down, with a team already to pick up the pilots. It was interesting how fast a SAA commando team arrived to begin a rescue. The Turks failed totally to stop the rescue, though one Russian Marine and a helicopter were destroyed by the USA supplied TOW.
ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra are flush with TOW. USA supplied 10,000 of these ATGMs, ideal for ground combat. But not nearly as potent and easy to handle as the Russian Kornet ATGM, which Russia is now flooding into the SAA. TOS-1 has been used. And now the Russian Mine Clearance vehicle has been filmed in action. This throws a massive explosive rope to a distance, this explodes cleading a long lane. I just watched the SAA use it to clear a village of ISIS snakes. Once the explosion opens a corridor, the SAA troops advance on this cleared line with weapons trained to both flanks, and a tank on each flank to provide cover. More and more the ISIS cunts are facing some serious damage.
I think the only thing missing may be enough manpower because the Syrian Army (SAA) has been bravely fighting hard for many years.
A certain vile country wants to have the head choppers wear down Jezbollah because they are a tough and effective foe.
I know the leader of Chechnya offered Putin 20,000 fighters and all Putin had to do was say the word.
The good news is the Russians are doing more training with the Syrians to make them more effective.
I would think that a lot of Turks do not want to die for that shitbag Erdogan.
The term 'neo-con' is passe.
What we face is the Rothschild-Israeli Directorate.
Those murdered SU24 Pilot was not turkmen, but Turk 'Grey Wolves'
Commander Turk and unit all Turks, shooting aircrew
Does not matter. Either way a pile of shit to be flushed down the world's toilet.
Good news today.
From Moon Over Alabama blog: (Dec 4)
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/12/erdogans-turkmen-lose-some-of-their...
The Russian air force and the Syrian army had a quite successful day while Erdogan's "Bay?rbucak Turkmen" from all around the world lost some key leaders.
Good post, JB. Various russian sources also claim that the Turkmen were Turkish Grey Wolves, who intended to capture the pilots alive. They were planning to hold them for ransom against the release of so called tartar political prisoners in Russia, and also to brutally kill at least one pilot by burning him alive.
Unfortunately for the Neocons, their turkish puppets bungled the shoot down, resulting in the pilots ejecting farther south into Syian territory than originally planned. So no torture porn to terrorize the russian people.
To me, the whole episode reeks of desperation by the Neocons, seeing their plans to dismember Syria destroyed by Russian airpower. The billions spent creating ISIS is now going up in smoke, along with their terrorist pets.
I wonder if the neocon/neoliberal plan is to start a war between Turkey and Russia that will draw in Iran, the target they have wanted to destroy but so far have failed.
The SAA with Russian bombing cover are moving faster now. The jihadi lunatics in NW Syria are collapsing. The SAA and Russian air force will be turning their attention to eastern Syria sooner than later.
From Burton: some Russian sources say that the Turkmen who killed the Russian pilot are already dead, killed by a combination of special forces and air strikes.
While possible it does not add up. If it is so easy that some troops can go in and wipe out all the enemy in the region in direct ground opperations without even tanks and heavy artilery and other heavy weapons then you have to ask why have they not have spent a couple days doing it before.
Russia has been forth coming with videos of their successes but has made no claims of any success against those who shot down their jet or killed the pilot. Although Putin makes loud statements he will do so. If he had made effective strikes Putin would have made it official. There were some videos posted that claimed to strikes in response but from what I recall they were posted by others (not Russia) and a couple were shown to be from previous air strikes at other locations. Even then the strikes were localized.
If anything I suspect Russia has stayed away from the Turks border. Are there any recent accounts of Russia bombing next to the border since the jet was taken down?
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Thank you, seasnails you're as clear as Klitschko. The more nonsense it is impossible to imagine.
Ukrobot never heard of Azaz, maybe 5 km from Turkish border distant?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA3baG0GRZM
Hedgehog go sing.
The economic situation is getting worse. Therefore, the United States really need a war between Turkey and Russia. Or between Russia and Germany.
That is, the United States needed a war between Russia and NATO, as much as possible away from the US border. Three years ago, many American economists openly wrote and spoke about the necessity of a new "good war", to rescue the US economy.
THAT IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER.
s/
Obama is such an easy bitch for Putin to punk
Obama has no real power in the United States and does not solve anything. Obama - this is just one of the types of decorative power in the United States.
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Dad, in what country of the world, most independent presidential power?
In the US, of course, my son!
Dad, but why?
Because my son, that after the assassination of the Kennedy brothers, the real financial power in the United States, does not depend on the views of presidents.
They might have killed Nixon too. But it was to soon after Kennedy.
I've never heard that Nixon was trying to compete against the real power in the United States. I mean monopoly on the real power, from party issue of money, in the face so called "Federal Reserve System".
Hey Boris, can you get me a Russian passport? I want to leave this country before my balls shrivel up and fall off.
I read somewhere that if you learn the language well enough, they will.
remove kebab...
https://www.rt.com/news/324787-turkish-troops-deployed-iraq/
. . . . ' Where were you , while we were getting High ?
Someday, you will find me ,caught between a Landslide and Putin's Supernova in the Sky '. . . . .
Russians are escalating the conflict with Turkey. You don't calm things down by calling someone a terrorist supporter (especially if they are one).
I am kind of half expecting there might be an incident where a Turkish plane is shot down near the Syrian border. Turkish radar tracks will show the plane never entered Syrian airspace. Syrian/Russian radar will show it was in Syria. Turkey uses this to declare war on Syria and marches in to "stabilize the situation", similar to what Syria did in Lebanon.
Looks like the plan is for Turkey to invade eastern Syria "to stabilize" but really to protect ISIS and the oil fields, a permanent occupation to allow the pipeline to be built also. This invasion will have the backing of all Western powers with full US, Brit, and perhaps French air support, along with Turkish air power also. US carrier and ground-based fighters already in place. At that point it's Putin's call, let them have it or WWIII.
If Turkey or any other foreign force enters Syria then the Russian air force should bomb them into compose.
Hence the air power build up of US, Brits, France, Germany to prevent that.
Well spotted.
Compare that reality to the outright lies and deception peddled in the British Parliament by Cameron last week when he claimed it was necessary to bomb Syria to protect "our people" back home.
In Syria, Russia currently has 25 strategic bombers (Tu-22M3, Tu-95MSM, and Tu-160), 18 tactical bombers (Su-24M2 and Su-34), 12 attack bombers (Su-25SM), 12 attack helicopters (Mi-24P), 4 utility helicopters (Mi-8), 1 reconn aircraft and only 4 Su-24 fighter aircraft.
This is no match for Turkey's air force. Turkey would only need to take out the remaining 4 fighters and then it could easily destroy the bombers and other planes in the air or on the ground. Turkish ground troops woud then be free to occupy the Syrian airfields.Turkey could close the bosphorus to prevent the Russians from bringing in any more supplies that way.
I'm not saying this would be a good or a wise thing for Turkey to do. But to quote Caspar Gutman in "The Maltese Falcon":
"That's an attitude, sir, that calls for the most delicate judgment on both sides. 'Cause as you know, sir, in the heat of action men are likely to forget where their best interests lie and let their emotions carry them away."
Umm..you've forgotten in your little list of Russian hardware S-400's/S-300's, Pantsirs, Kaliber cruise missiles and most likely undeclared deployment of Russian Subs with Bulavas and of course Iskander surface-to-surface missiles.
The Turkish airforce and bases would be torched before they could "take out" those 4 fighter jets or "easily" destroy their bombers.
The variety of missiles the Russians have created is pretty staggering. The Kalibr M cruise missiles launched from the Caspian Sea. The Kalibr has about 4 versions including supersonic at the terminal point for the anti ship version. Air launched bigger cruise missiles with another name. The Sunburn anti ship missiles.
endless varieties fof anti-tank missiles. The old 1970s versions or copies of those versions are destroying Saudi M1a Abrams left and right in Yemen. This old technology is still highly effective. then they have the newer and fearsome Kornet.
Various version of anti aircraft missiles including S-300, S-400 and soon S-500 plus Buk and others including a top of the line manpad.
They also have that nasty battlefield MLRS Smerch. Any Americans with kids or relatives considering enlisting should watch a video on the Smerch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYnBmxjfld4
If Turkey sends any tanks into Syria - they will all be destroyed in a day.
They are also testing a mobile anti-satellite missile system Nudol. The third test on 18 November was a success.
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/bmpd.livejournal.com/1608161.html
Me suspects the Russkies have a just a few more planes back home should the need arise.
Iraq has already told Turkey to get its troops out. Iraqi militia have said they will defend Iraq from US troops. I suspect Iraq and Russia are waiting for an excuse (Turkish troops attacking Iraqi forces?) to put Russian aircraft into Iraq.
Russia and Iraq do not need an excuse they now have justification, and it is even legal.
It is an invasion of Iraq, Iraq can attack. If asked by Iraq then Russia can attack. But they do not out of fear.
Turkey just moved some troops into SYRIA. See the posting by JB. Turkey who openly shot down Putins jet now moved troops into Syria!!
Thus far Putin cannot find the balls to even attack Turkey in Syria. But we should give Putin 3 days before confirming that his fear is so great that even Turkey can move in without being bombed by Putin. Of course he might use his proxy forces of Syria, Iran and Hezbollah.
Yeah, that would be good.
Russia can then bomb the blitzes out of Turkish forces claiming that Turkey is invading Syria and Assad has asked Russia to help. Destroying Turkish heavy hardware at the same time would be a bonus.
Maybe not, but in a street fight you put 'em down fast and you put 'em down for good. So far, of course, the Russians have *not* fought - that is, they've refused to be drawn into the coalition's quagmire of provocations, false flags and and economic sanctions. I do agree there will be an "incident", similar to a Tonkin Bay ruse. It may be it's all the West has left at this point. The conditions are ripe - at least for a blocking action to protect the new Turkomen empire.
(Knew a fella on that ill-fated ship. He claimed nothing ever happened ...)
More like Greece will shoot down an F16.
Those videos made my day! Thank You, Mr. Putin! Fuck you CIA/Isis!
And make sure your Spetznaz troops make liberal use of Kirk's fighting moves.
TGIF humor. ;-)
Oh no they di-int! The Erdogan family is gonna be soooo pissssed!
The last year of a war is usually the worst.
2016 coming up.
What if we could all wake up tomorrow morning, and Obama, Valerie Jarrett, George Soros, Bill & Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Lindsey Graham,
and all the rest of the neocon and commie fuckers were no longer a part of humanity? Oh, and that goes for Nuland and the banksters as well...
You left out a bunch of names, but I will take it. Can we exorcise this fuckers to Mr. Gilmore's property? summmbitch
You don't mess with the Russians not matter how poweful you think you are.
I don't think Erdogan and his gangs will make it to 2016.
After seeing the video of the soccer game, they can all fry for all I care!
AS all of you know I am not a Putin fan, but at least he is doing something about these azzhats!
Now that is saying something coming from me, lemme just tell ya
The A-10 is just tailor made for taking out columns of tanker trucks, when there are no tanks to kill.
The A-10 is a superb aircraft for its purpose.
That is why it is being replaced by the F-35 and anyone who protest is now a traitor.
General: Praising the A-10 to Lawmakers is ‘Treason’
http://www.dodbuzz.com/2015/01/16/general-praising-the-a-10-to-lawmakers...
hahaha. USA, land of the scam.
Obama for a full year had ten of thousands of tanker trucks filling the highways of Syria and Iraq headed for Turkey. US command could not find them! Putin found them in double quick time, and is still hitting them. ISIS/ISISL is a CIA operation plain and simple, always has been. It was formed to conquer Syria and take the Western part of Iraq, both for American puppet rulers to run.
Thank goodness for this, CNN just posted an article that says the US is running out of bombs.
Turkey strikes back. Invades Syria, fortifies oil routes. Invasion of Syria!
The Turkish army invaded the Syrian territory and took control of the hill Tal Ziyab. Troops crossed the border accompanied by bulldozers.
After occupying the high ground (50 meters), the Turkish force built fortifications. Also, 3 battle tanks, 2 armored infantry fighting vehicles and several SUVs were deployed there.
Considering the location of Tal Ziyab, Turkey wants to cover the smuggling route of the Syrian oil which is taken out of the ISIS-controlled Raqqa.
It seems that Ankara has decided to act much more aggresively after the Ministry of Defense of Russia were released pictures and videos of oil delivery convoys at the border between Syria and Turkey.
Those troops must be shitting their pants, they know they are bait.
If Russia bombs them, the media will say they were inside Turkey.
My guess is Hizbollah will take them out.
Turkish troops enter Iraq! Iraq calls it an Ivasion, get out!
Baghdad calls Turkish troops in Iraq ‘incursion’, demands immediate withdrawal
The Turkish troops are going to wish they never met Hezbollah.
Putin should ask Chechnya's leader to send 2,000 of his elite fighters. Ramzan Kadyrov, leader of Chechnya has offered 20,000 fighting men. The Turks woul dbe shitting in their pants if 1,000 showed up.
Also Kadyrov has said the See Eye Aye is behind a recent "ISIS" murder of a hostage.
http://tass.ru/en/politics/841646