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Chilling UK Government "Advice" Asks Parents To Spy On Their Kids
Submitted by Simon Black via SovereignMan.com,
This is WAY beyond ‘if you see something, say something.’
In a series of pamphlets circulated among local governments in the United Kingdom, British parents are now being encouraged to spy on their own children, and to report any instances of possible ‘radicalization’.
Of course this advice comes with a nifty set of instructions for how to spot a terrorist in your own home:
The first three “signs”:
- Out of character changes in dress, behaviour and changes in their friendship group;
- Losing interest in previous activities and friendships;
- Secretive behaviour and switching screens when you come near—
Imagine that– a teenager who doesn’t want mom and dad to see what he’s doing on his iPhone? Or a 14-year old who starts dressing differently and hanging out with a different group of friends?
Funny, this sounds like. . . pretty much every teenager on the planet.
But even more unsettling are these:
- Showing a mistrust of mainstream media reports and belief in conspiracy theories;
- Appearing angry about government policies, especially foreign policy.
So apparently now questioning the propaganda and government policies are considered evidence of subversive, extremist behavior.
If you don’t fall in line, you’re a radical. And the government now wants to train parents to rat out their own children.
This is chilling. Disgusting. And unfortunately not too surprising from the country that was the backdrop for George Orwell’s 1984.
Orwell’s dystopic view of the future is rapidly becoming reality in many countries across the West.
The endless government monitoring of all electronic communication is prevalent everywhere in the ‘free’ world.
Financial privacy has been destroyed. Banks are now merely unpaid spies of bankrupt governments, and they will freeze you out of your life’s savings in a heartbeat if some faceless bureaucrat orders them to do so.
Civil Asset Forfeiture, where police and government agencies confiscate your cash and property without the slightest bit of due process, is at an all-time high.
So much, in fact, that the government now steals more from its citizens than private criminals.
Governments have even shown an alarming willingness to confiscate your own children if they deem in their sole discretion that you are an unfit parent… which may now include, obviously, ‘subversive’ behavior like questioning authority.
Now in Britain they want to turn the tables and have parents spy on children.
So the Ministry of Truth and Ministry of Love, it appears, are alive and well.
Yes, there have been some terrible tragedies lately. But governments are using these attacks as a way to tap into people’s most carnal fears, however unlikely they may be.
As we’ve discussed before, you’re more likely to choke on a hot dog than die in a terrorist attack.
But they’ll never spend trillions on a war against hot dogs… because hot dogs aren’t as scary as the image of an angry brown teenager with a headwrap and AK-47 climbing across a set of monkey bars in a terrorist training camp.
Governments stoke this fear and use it to award themselves even more power in the name of protecting you.
Now they’re encouraging you to violate the most sacred bonds of family as some sort of duty to the state.
Look, I have no doubt that there’s an army of bureaucrats out there who feel they have an honorable burden to keep people safe.
And they’re doing whatever they think they can do to protect us.
This sort of idea would have been unimaginable not too long ago… the stuff of North Korea or the Soviet Union. Yet today it seems perfectly acceptable.
It’s an incredible reminder of how the free world is now ruled by irrational paranoia, and not on the principles of liberty upon which it was founded.
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Incredibly scary thing for those entering puberty
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Good luck with that Mr. Gubermint.
You're just going to chase them our way now....
British parents are now being encouraged to spy on their own children, and to report any instances of possible ‘radicalization’.
Better yet, grab said "British parents" by the pants and boot them and theirs back to the Islamic 3rd world hellholes from which they originated.
Did I just say something un-PC?
After you register your child at birth and receive a birth certificate, you have just relinquished your right to be your child's legal guardian. This is why the state can take your child away from you at any point, if they feel you are not doing a good enough job.
Avoid bringing your child to the attention of the authorities, unless you don't want to see them anymore of course.
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/road-to-ww3-time-to...
Well this is what happens when dumbfucks do not acknowledge the obvious. The problem isnt children, the problem is Islam. Get rid of the fucking Muslims and you dont need this kind of bullshit. Stop allowing any of the fuckers in. They are not like us. Their religion is a virus that is deadly to what makes the west the west. The two are not compatible at all. To let them in is to destroy ourselves. Stop letting them in and encourage those that are here to leave.
At least this isn't the other way around.
My kids have shit on me that would make a Goobermint agent's eyes pop out of their head.
They also know who butters their bread.
BTW, the post above me was made my a goobermint bred mouthbreather.
Try Fox - they may have what you're looking for.
What jackasses are down-voting you?
Are they Islamo-Statists?
Or Leftists who have an Unholy Alliance with the Islamo-Statists?
Curious. But they are stupid mother fuckers who feel they have enough distance between the beheaders and rapists and jihadists to moralize about how wicked and racist you are.
It was off-topic to the article above. Which can cause more harm? A tyrannical government or a faction of religious people?
Edit* We're on the same side, just as long as we keep the priorities straight.
Which can cause more harm? A tyrannical government or a faction of religious people?
Ans: Both.
What do I win?
A free trip just for asking!
http://department.monm.edu/classes/honr210/doreburningtombs.jpg
Hey dudes, I saw this thing online called ZeroHedge !!
Na ZeroHedgers are safe. They are only targeting young people.
According to Prof. Jim Fetzer, there are no conspiracy theories, only conspiracy facts. You put up your facts, I will present mine. That puts an end to the dismissive conspiracy theory meme and puts science in its place.
The person who wrote that clearly doesn't have kids! THAT'S WHAT I CALL NORMAL BEHAVIOR!!
The real first signs are that something is wrong:
1. Smoke comming from under the door of the room
2. Silence in the house
3. The dog had fled out of the house
You missed number 4.
4. Kid sets up video camera to tape your ritual beheading.
Keep your children safe... so that they can be raped by politicians later in life.
Politicians (especially in England) like to do the raping early in a child's life.
Boys Boarding Schools are the gateway environment to pedastry.
so do priests. The list of symptoms would aslo describe joining Jehova's Witnesses and any other religion/cult
To observe British lawmaking and British culture is to observe our future.
to be fair it goes both ways...They get our decadent cultural offerings and we get their surveillance programs after british beta testing
"Appearing angry about government policies, especially foreign policy" ... Yeah, I'd be very suspicious of any teenager that is even vaguely interested in foreign policy
Are you seeing how sick and twisted these Leftists are folks, they want you to spy and report on your own children. See in a leftest ( scum ) wacko world your children are wards of the state!
Don't believe me, just go sit in a class room for a day. Trust me I'm sure Junior has come home many of days and said " Mommy the teacher said this and the teacher said that " and you've blown it off, its all truth!
Kids, especially young kids don't know how to lie or know what lying is they speak the truth from what they see or are being told.
"...just go sit in a class room for a day"
Where is that still allowed? Parents need an escort when on school property nowadays.
Research shows that the sooner a child starts lying the smarter he/she is.
Mother told me stories about how I used to fake cry for a diaper change and as soon as you went to check it out, I'd pee in your face and laugh! I still have a sick sense of humor to this day.
Stay away from those MENSA mopes that want to steal your parents money kids!
I am in the vicinity of MENSA, compared to many of the comments I read.
Question 1: You have a jar with 100 pennies. 1 penny has "heads" on both sides. Your friend takes a penny out of the jar and flips it 7 times, each time the penny lands on "heads."
Did your friend grab the 2 headed penny from the jar? Explain your reasoning.
FYI, this took me no more than 10 seconds when I was 6 years old.
Duh,
Out of 100 pennies, the odds are that 50 will land on heads.
Your friend has a very good skill at selecting the ones that will land on heads
Hey Imogen Bailey,
My friend is flipping the same penny each of the 7 times (he only takes 1 penny out of the jar).
The odds of 7 heads in a row are aproximately 0.7%. They got the penny with two heads or they palmed one.
If it helps
(.5)^7 = 0.0078125 vs .01 (1/100)
Mr ghost!!!!
Maybe easier to illustrate flipping a normal penny 7 times as (1/2)^7 = 1/128 vs 1/100 of picking the penny out of the jar. So he has a better chance of pulling the 2 headed penny out of the jar than getting heads 7 times in a row!
Good job sir.
Why would you wait for 7 flips before taking a close look at the coin?
You really think the UK government is leftist? You are totally deranged. They are hardcore elitist fascists who will do anything for more 'compensation' from international corporations.
here is a good explanation of the UK leaders' childish yet psychopathic mentality:
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/jun/09/boarding-schools-bad-le...
Here's ONE good thing about England. They are dog friendly. In the Commons, dogs run free and the children are behind fences.
You are welcomed to take your friend from another species on the underground, on the overgrond, buses, ferries, what have you.
Mine is a dog lover's point of view.
Hahaha! Roundheads vs Cavaliers...
"When did you last see your father?"...Famous painting.
Talk to your children about what they are being talked to about in school. Look into the book lists their teachers get to choose from. Read the school rules. Some of it is getting creepy. Don't assume it's the same as it was in your day. IT AIN'T! Keep an eye on the administrators.
In USA, doctors can ask kids if Daddy has a gun, because guns are dangerous and the answer goes into the medical record and the insurance company and now, the government-mandated database. I was in the exam room when my child was asked if Daddy wears a bike helmet when we ride our bikes. The YES reply was met with an explanation to me, you're being a good example. I was taken aback by my child being questioned about my behavior, especially when I was in the room and able to reply. It taught me an alarming lesson about "informing", how "innocently" it can be conducted.
1984 has come and settled in as business as usual. Do not assume your little loved ones can't be tricked or turned by adult or peer pressure to disclose personal, family or confidential information that you consider to be private.
Have you ever been told by a teacher, VP, or principal that you were the only parent to mention something or experience something in particular? Well, you weren't. They just say that to ostracize and isolate you. Get to know the other parents.
They school authorities can't give you detention anymore! Stand up.
i dont remember, was ZH that pointed out this creepy Australian website?
http://www.livingsafetogether.gov.au/pages/home.aspx
"The individual begins to identify with a group or ideology that is very different from the mainstream."
report them!
Now that is some seriously Orwellian shit there.
Does that include LBGT community? Ethnic Minorities?
No, and it doesn't include police, firefighers, or teachers either. These are "protected" goups.
Spoctor Din
I found the doc:
Fact sheet—Understanding the radicalisation process
http://www.livingsafetogether.gov.au/informationadvice/Documents/underst...
However they put it in huge red font: Increasing religious devoutness or commitment to unconventional beliefs is not the same as radicalisation towards violent extremism.
What is this "free world" with which you speak??
The UK is becoming the most shameless in advertising its march towards Dystopia, but the Disunited States isn't far behind.
they may have losts / sold their soul, but they are pretty effective when it comes to fear-mongering and predatory advertising
UK gov thinks 1984 was a handbook
It is the handbook.
Author Eric Blair (aka George Orwell) was an Eton-educated pro-imperialism propagandist working for the BBC and UK gov.
http://www.george-orwell.org/l_biography.html
And if you spy on them while they're in the WC, they can/will turn you in. Divide & Conquer 101.
The Decay & Destruction of Civilized Occident (West) continues, thanks to Bolsheviks and Wahhabists working in tandem, leveraging the dumbest and most malleable in the West.
Years ago in the US, the Ninja Turtles cartoon series snuck subversive messages into episodes that commanded kids to report their parents to police if they (the kids) saw (their parents) doing bad things, taking drugs, gun related stuff, etc. That didnt go over too well with the kids' parents back then. Will be interesting to see how UK parents react.
They hate us for our free-dumb.
AMERICA! Jesus' Favorite Country! ©®
Of course Americans have almost no Middle East or South Asian immigrants in their midst and don't have to worry about their radicalization. But we in Europe do. Regrettably. And also regrettably, we need to do everything we can to prevent it, and mobilize all resources including the parents.
We couldn't care less about your pathologically anti-etatist views and the pathetic paranoia that accompanies it. These are important policies for the problems at hand whatever your political inclinations.
The brainwashing is strong with this one.
Next they will come out with pamphlets telling the kids to report on their parents.
By the way, I've lived in your fucked up, trust-free American 'communities'. Parents are either pathological control freaks or utterly indifferent towards their children. No middle way. Just a fucked up society fucking up its children to create an even more fucked up society.
I disagree.
Parents in the united states of 'merica are pathological control freaks because they are indifferent toward their children.
If they can show the world what a great snitch they are and still not GAF about their kids they do.
Cuz every community in America is just like every other.
Call CDC and they will put your kids to work licking the Queen's vagina.
Hmm, oh dear, seems I have to report myself in that case!
Don't the candidates vying to be president do those very things to each other right in front of everyone watching live or on TV? Does Hillary become a radical for being critical of one of Trump's policies? Or Sanders? Haul them off to retraining?
That would mean reporting most of the western establishment for:
OMG this is terrifying !
The juvenile delinquents will not be able to make their bombs in private anymore, very sad.
WHat a stupid article. We watched our kids every single solitary day from birth to adulthood. That's the parent's job, nobody else's.
Agreed but nobody has time and the kids are in school being brainwashed behind their backs. Some parents can't cope. Some parents are still intimidated by their children's teachers.
Yeah well, some people also just want to beat the shit out of their kids in peace. Unfortuantely, the Zios already made effective war on the extended family unit, who might have otherwise been available to step in in those cases.
New Directive - All citizens must report suspicious activity by any politician, banker or Magistrate. Freedom comes at a cost.
All the governments need to spend zero time telling people what to think and do.
Actually, I'm sure that if you went around noting the activities of the MIC, you'd be arrested on suspicion of terror.
Funny huh?
parents in the US have no clue what they are getting into when they have kids.
What do you mean I can't go to my safe space when my kid offends me?
when your kid sends you for a TIMEOUT-you know youre in trouble
By now they should. If they don't, they shouldn't have kids in the first place.
The author has missed 50% of the story.
What do you think HMG is saying to the dear little moppets all snug and secure in their classrooms?
On - just harmless questions in a conversational tone. Things like, when mummy has tradesmen at the house does she pay in cash? OR does daddy ever have money from his work that he does not take to the bank?
As usual, the Thick Brits have it the wrong way around:
In true STASI fashion, it's the KIDS who are supposed to by spying on the PARENTS - and reporting any derogatory remarks they might make about 'Big Bruvva'Cameron (and his porcine peccadillos)
I believe they have it right. This is all just a precursor to the main event.
You are right. The goal is to have the KIDS spy on the PARENTS but first, they need the kids to distrust the parents. This UK Government "Advice" does just that. Any kid who hears this announcement will start examining his relationship with his parents.
I believe there is a lot more to this UK Government "Advice" than meets the eye. They are data-mining experiments. Little Johnny leaves googly information which give more than enough clues from which the political opinions of his parents could be deduced.
When one considers the gay coloring books passed out in schools, it's no wonder what is happening in the social engineering department.
A friends grandson wore his grandmother's frilly nightgown the other day over his clothes. Then he threatened to call 911 for making him do his homework.
Live the dream.
If there was ever a signal to not consider having children, this is it. It's become clear who owns them, and it is no longer the parents.
Sorry. Americans just misunderstand the level of cynicism the average Brit has about any government and "civil servants". After the US Empire has collapsed you'll maybe understand. I'm starting to see almost british levels of sarcasm and irony in these pages an I'm pretty sure it'll filter through to the rest of the US populace as the propaganda becomes increasingly out of touch with reality.
Nobody is going to take this seriously. Maybe a few neurotic middle class parents.
The only thing I will spy on my kids is to make sure they don't get involve in stupid social media.
Parents will see through this, even in the UK.
Some people will see thru it. But they won't do anything about it.
History teaches us that people will tolerate almost any amount of oppression from despotic leaders before rising up.
In Germany in from 1933 to 1945, there was an organization for youth very similar to the Boy Scouts. The mandate for these young patriots was to report any anti national talk or action. The really ambitious ones spied on their parents and were rewarded if/when they reported any "inconsistences".
What the UK has done is just reverse who spies on whom. The Facism is the same.
In Poland, school teachers would play the theme music to foreign radio prodcasts in elementary schools and ask if the kids recognized it.
No child of mine will ever have a Birth certificate or SS# or anything of the sort. Fuckers.
I say we start a "make our children sovergn again" campaign and burn every piece of paperwork they hand to us to sign for our kids.