Greece Loses Last Trace Of Sovereignty After EU Takes Control Of Greek Borders

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Ever since this summer's dramatic "referendum" farce, and the subsequent hijacking of the Greek banking system by the ECB's ELA, Greece has officially been a nation without state sovereignty. Europe reminded Greece of just this a few days ago when days after its waved the carrot before Turkey promising billions in aid, and an EU acceptance fast track, it threatened Greece with expulsion from the Schengen customs union (a union which as a subsequent leak revealed will likely be "temporarily" shuttered for as long as two years unless the refugee crisis is brought under control).

Perhaps to confirm that few things will stand in its mission-creep to subjugate the sovereignty of European member states, starting with the poorest and most insolvent, namely Greece, we find out that the EU and its border agency, is not only preparing to take over border control of countries that have been found to be "ill-equipped" to deal with the refugee problem, but has already launched this plan into action in Greece.

Because after being threatened with expulsion from the Schengen zone, Greece (which does not actually share a contiguous, physical border with any Schengen nation) caved in and accepted an offer from the European Union to bolster its borders with foreign guards as well as other aid, including tents and first aid kits. This decision follows reports that Greece was unwilling to accept foreign border guards on its territory, but these were later denied by the government.

The deployment of additional officers will begin next week.

As Keep Talking Greece writes, "the masks have fallen. Hand in hand, the European Union and the Frontex want to cancel national sovereignty and take over border controls in the pretext of “safeguarding the Schengen borders”. With controversial claims, they use the case of Greece to create an example that could soon happen “in the border area near you.”  And the plan is all German."

Paranoia? Or just another confirmation that the Eurozone is using every incremental, and produced, crisis to cement its power over discrete European state sovereignty and wipe out the cultural and religious borders the prevent the amalgamation of Europe into a Brussels, Berlin and Frankfurt-controlled superstate?

Decide for yourselves after reading this from The Independent:

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EU considers measures to intervene if states’ borders are not guarded

The European Union is considering a measure that would give a new EU border force powers to intervene and guard a member state’s external frontier to protect the Schengen open-borders zone, EU officials and diplomats said yesterday in Brussels.

Such a move would be controversial. It might be blocked by states wary of surrendering sovereign control of their territory. But the discussion reflects fears that Greece’s failure to manage a flood of migrants from Turkey has brought Schengen’s open borders to the brink of collapse.

Germany’s Thomas de Maiziere, in Brussels for a meeting of EU interior ministers, said he expected proposal from the EU executive due on December 15 to include giving responsibility for controlling a frontier with a non-Schengen country to Frontex, the EU’s border agency, if a member state failed to do so.

“The Commission should put forward a proposal … which has the goal of, when a national state is not effectively fulfilling its duty of defending the external border, then that can be taken over by Frontex,” de Maiziere told reporters.

He noted a Franco-German push for Frontex, whose role is largely to coordinate national border agencies, to be complemented by a permanent European Border and Coast Guard – a measure the European Commission has confirmed it will propose.

Greece has come under heavy pressure from states concerned about Schengen this week to accept EU offers of help on its borders.

Diplomats have warned that Athens might find itself effectively excluded from the Schengen zone if it failed to work with other Europeans to control migration.

Earlier this week, Greece finally agreed to accept help from Frontex, averting a showdown at the ministerial meeting in Brussels.

EU diplomats said the proposals to bolster defence of the external Schengen frontiers would look at whether the EU must rely on an invitation from the state concerned.

“One option could be not to seek the member state’s approval for deploying Frontex but activating it by a majority vote among all 28 members,” an EU official said.

Under the Schengen Borders Code, the Commission can now recommend a state accept help from other EU members to control its frontiers. But it cannot force it to accept help – something that may, in any case, not be practicable.

The code also gives states the right to impose controls on internal Schengen borders if external borders are neglected.

As Greece has no land border with the rest of the Schengen zone, that could mean obliging ferries and flights coming from Greece to undergo passport checks.

Asked whether an EU force should require an invitation or could be imposed by the bloc, Swedish Interior Minister Anders Ygeman said: “Border control is the competence for the member states, and it’s hard to say that there is a need to impose that on member states forcefully.

“On the other hand,” he said, referring to this week’s pressure on Greece, “we must safeguard the borders of Schengen, and what we have seen is that if a country is not able to protect its own border, it can leave Schengen or accept Frontex. It’s not mandatory, but in practice it’s quite mandatory.”

A dramatic increase in EU powers over national territory would be deeply controversial in much of Europe.

On Thursday, Danes, who are part of the Schengen zone, heeded Eurosceptic calls and voted against giving their government power to deepen its cooperation with the EU policy agency.

The European Union faces another test over the next two years as Britain, its second biggest economy, prepares to hold a referendum on whether to quit – although it is not a member of the 26-nation Schengen zone. (full article Irish Independent)

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Our Greek friends at KTG are hardly enthused about ceding control of their borders to Europe:

Dramatically increase EU powers over national territories? Be my guest. Brussels and Berlin should not be surprised to see the increase of Eurosceptics spreading like mushrooms. Brussels and Berlin may save the Schengen zone and the Euro zone, but in the end they will stand there with their pants down.

Maybe, but that would require Europe's "sovereign" states to take a stand against the oppressor. So far, they have all failed and refused to do that as any attempts to exit the Euro and Eurozone, would mean immediate loss of all Euro-denominated savings and a collapse of the financial sector as Greece found out the hard way.

For the time being however, we bring to mind the May 30, 2008 presentation from then-AIG's Bernard Connolly who laid out precisely what is happening now in Europe some seven years ago.

Here is his answer to the question What Europe Wants:

To use global issues as excuses to extend its power:

  • environmental issues: increase control over member countries; advance idea of global governance
  • terrorism: use excuse for greater control over police and judicial issues; increase extent of surveillance
  • global financial crisis: kill two birds (free market; Anglo-Saxon economies) with one stone (Europe-wide regulator; attempts at global financial governance)
  • EMU: create a crisis to force introduction of “European economic government”

The full presentation, uncannily prescient then, can be read below.


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Looney's picture

Within a handful of years, Greece has completed the metamorphosis:

1. Steaming pile of fresh shit.

2. Slightly crusted piece of shit.

3. Sun-dried old piece of shit.

What a shame!


Gordon Freeman's picture

They richly deserve to lose any trace of sovereignty

Itchy and Scratchy's picture

Spoken like a true tribal parasite! The Iranians have the same idea!

Baby Bladeface's picture
Baby Bladeface (not verified) Itchy and Scratchy Dec 5, 2015 6:27 PM

Rename to South Bavaria and the bills to Berlin then send.

TAALR Swift's picture

Sad but true, in a country where men act as scared serfs, and women have become cheap whores, at 4 EUR/hr.

When a People slide to such a depth of despondency and lack of self-respect, they can no longer be called a People. Rather, they have become as Cattle -- to be bought, sold, moved around, milked and eventually slaughtered.

This kind of truth may upset some people who still have a different mental and emotional association for Greece, but they would be merely projecting their own bias and cognitive dissonance about the situation.

The cycle of Depression will not have bottomed out until a person or a People fully shed their veneer or vanity and false pride, and embrace the truth. For only then can they start the long upward climb to human and national dignity, by acting accordingly.

For those people and countries who are tempted to look 'down' at Greece: Beware. Greece is but a Testbed for what is coming to your countries, as the march toward a One-World Order continues by the Globalists.

Itchy and Scratchy's picture

Could not be better spoken! I love the 'cattle' reference .... Very orthodox 'you-know-who!'

Flagit's picture


Foreign guards on the boarders today.

Cities, streets, and shopping centers tomorrow.

"Stand down people, Greece missed it's bond payment last week, no shopping until an agreement has been made."

edotabin's picture

I guess the Greeks couldn't bring in the refugees fast enough on their own.  Now they will have bigger, faster boats and all the means necessary to flood Europe as quickly as possible.

Funny thing is, I'm actually one of the few people on here that believes the whole world is one and eventually will be made up of one race.  Given enough time (4-500 years) I'm for it actually but not like this man, not like this.

EddieLomax's picture

Best summary of the situation in Greece, and unfortunately the UK and other such countries are on the same path.

Just look at the EU, they cannot figure out how to control their own borders so they hand a authoritarian imperialist 3 billion Euros to try and convince him to send fewer migrants.  We think we are enlightened and that the previous generations we inherited all this from were a bit backwards because they lacked our high values, but actually it is us who have a poverty of thought.  We cannot even say who we are as a people anymore in parts of Europe, sneering at our national identity more because we cannot understand the concept of being a nation or a people then because we have learned something new.

Killdo's picture

"...where men act as scared serfs.."

this is probably to do with what they do to children in public schools in Greece - before they are allowed to enter their schools every morning they must pray (like serfs to their invisible master) even if their parents are not religious. I've seen it a few months ago when I was in Greece dropping off my friends' kids to school every morning. If they don't accept the sheeple framework (praying) they get punished (according to my friends' kids - I didn't ask how). 

How can people not grow up to be scared serfs if this kind of child abuse is done to them from such an early age? 

They aslso have little churches pretty much on all the school grounds I've seen there. No wonder they are waiting for some kind of invisible master to save them and have no idea what to do themselves? 

Preferably in a way of some kind of charity (because unlike collabration, charity reinforces dependence - the way totalitarian mafia prefers)

1033eruth's picture

Tell me how the US is on a different path and doesn't ALSO richly deserve to lose any trace of sovereignty.

BarkingCat's picture

The difference is that Greece is an ancient nation with population that is ethnically Greek.

US is a young nation and there is no such thing as ethnic American.

Closest thing that one could claim that comes to that are American Indians and we all know that they are the conquered tribes that control nothing.

So, the southern invasion can be seen as another metamorphosis of the nation.

Killdo's picture

the only difference is that Greeks have been brainwashed to thik they are actually not religious - even though they seem to be as relgious, scared  and as deluded as Americans. Every time I visit Greece I am surprised how it increasingly reminds me of America. I go there about once a year

Noplebian's picture
Noplebian (not verified) sam i am Dec 5, 2015 11:45 AM

History shows when the fiat currency system reaches it's end cycle, there is always a call for war. This one however, will wipe out billions!

BarkingCat's picture

What history?

Real fiat did not exist until after WWI for most western countries and then it was anchored to the US dollar which was anchored to gold until 1973


This is a brand new experience.

Noplebian's picture
Noplebian (not verified) sam i am Dec 5, 2015 12:32 PM

The Greek people voted Syriza back in directly after being shafted by them post's hard to feel sorry for people when they have this kind of collective mindset!


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BarkingCat's picture

You might like to make videos when fat people shit on your face for money but most people do not.

Itchy and Scratchy's picture

Does it offer a health plan?
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yrad's picture

I just got back to the States after 2 weeks touring Greece and her islands. I'd go back tomorrow. Great people. No issues.

Bangin7GramRocks's picture

Welcome to Greece. Prime vacation colony of the EU. Stay in your resort at all times for your own personal safety. Cheers & enjoy your holiday!

Itchy and Scratchy's picture

I guess they have done a good job of hiding their suicide epidemic?

BarnacleBill's picture

Good to hear, yrad. I haven't been back to Greece since spending three months on Corfu in a camping ground in 1976. Time I went back to give them some moral support, poor buggers.

Killdo's picture

I like Greeks too but they have a serious problem (very well described in Michael Lewis' Boomernag) - they are fundamentally unable to meaningfully aggregate - nbody trusts anybody else. Therefore it's a failled socety. My theory is that this is because of religion and how it's brainwashed into young children (and they feel betrayed by their parents who pretend they are not relgious yet allow their children to be daily humilated before they enter school - see my comments above ). We have the same religion in Serbia, but priests are not allowed to inflitrate in all the levels of society as in Greece. That's why Serbs are proud and independent and Greeks (althogh very similar in many other ways) seem timid and full of fear. 

WhyWait's picture

The Greek people have been repeatedly crushed by violent interventions, first the Nazis then the British then the CIA/NATO.  They have resisted bravely but have no experience of actually winning.My guess, expecially considering the death threat Sarkozy made to Papandreou 5 years back, is that Russia backed out of helping them because Russian help would have meant war.  As NATO and the EU weaken and as the situation in Greece goes from bad to worse,  the Greek people are going to have to face up to these threats. 

fleur de lis's picture

An alliance with Russia would be the best bet for Greece in every way, but the Greeks have to do their part by clearly understanding and restructuring the parasitic socio-financial structures they have in place now.

If they think that a Russian alliance means easy money they're wrong. But it would mean sovereignty, better commerce and fiscal policy, and long term cultural survival. Right now they want to continue getting handouts from the EU as long as possible while retaining sovereignty.

The EU knows their weak point -- they are willing to gamble everything for an easy life so they will be strung along until they are stretched so thin they will cave into the EU demands.

Killdo's picture

I've spent a lot of time telling my Greek friends (educated in the UK, PhDs rom Cambridge etc) to start innovating as opposed to just waiting for Germans to invent something. Or working as IT support for American firms. I never thought German engineering was that good (I've had a Mercedes and was not impressed with it all, also a Rolex watch which is a piece of expensive crap) 

Yet there is like a wall of fear I awlys encounter and my well educated friends never even try to innovate - all they are looking for is some salvish-IT support or government job. No ambition and no balls - and it's always been like that - not just since the current crisis

BarkingCat's picture

I really wonder if ancient Greeks were the same ethnic group as modern Greeks, or did they die out and we're replaced by some other group that migrated there and its record is list to history.

The ancient Greeks were great scientists and fierce warriors.

Modern ones are neither. 

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williambanzai7's picture

AIG and Greece, two ponzinomic basket cases

Pliskin's picture

'Looks like we got us a sow here instead of a boar.'

jm's picture

Greece is a distressed debt in receivership.  Kind of unsettling, this experiment in how to wind-up a bankrupted nation. Once the Schauble reforms and a viable commerical code is in place, a new Greek government will take over management. 

The alternative is no more bridge financing, no more bailouts, and incomes reduced bonsai-style.

It sucks, but comment c'est.  


Itchy and Scratchy's picture

And we be talkin' 'New Goldman Sachs/Soros Greek Government' will be taking over management too!

jm's picture

No. The conditions for a Greek exit from recievership are well-established. They are needed.

They are listed below (with some commentary):

  • Streamline VAT (balance your books by enhancing revenue and making flows transparent)
  • Broaden the tax base (improve asset quality by share tax burdens across society, not by taxing private enterprise out of existence)
  • Reform the pension system (Entitlement spending expense needs to reasonably match revenue)
  • Adopt a civil code of procedure (This is huge and will mean wholesale legal transplantation of an existing commercial code from somewhere)
  • Safeguarding the legal independence of the Greek statistical office (Make your numbers trustworthy and improve quality)
  • Full implementation of automatic spending cuts (there has to be a primary balance)
  • Meet bank recovery and resolution directive (there has to be a thorough purging of the excesses and the unfit cannot survive regardless of who their cronies are)
  • Deal with non-performing loans (NPLs) in a consistent way (actually sell assets to the best cash offers, not to cronies or those offering kick-backs on the side)
  • Privatize the electricity transmission grid (de-socialize, not re-socialize)
  • Ensure independence of privatization body TAIPED (the revenue-maximizing bid gets lifted,
  • De-politicize the Greek administration (Insulate Greek government officials from those that lose from these reforms)

Itchy and Scratchy's picture

Yeah! And all those 'Well Established Conditions' should be rolled up and slid into the tight dry ass holes of the blood sucking international banking syndicates that inflicted this cultural and economic genocide on the proud but ignorant people of the land! Default on those fuckers regain control at any cost and throw those parasites out forever!

Anopheles's picture

You are delusional in you spite.   Those "international banking syndicates" did EXACTLY what Greece ASKED THEM TO DO.  If you think that Greece was hoodwinked, you are in denial.   Greece KNEW EXACTLY what was going on.

That's why they accepted the money then, and the SAME reason, they WANT MORE money today.

Greece is like a crack addict, but Greece is addicted to other people's money, and they HAVE sold their sole to get it. 


Itchy and Scratchy's picture

Please cite a single referendum by the voters calling for debt to GDP of over 300% and total mortgaging of their lands and country! Do you think those kind banker loan sharks didn't know how and why they were fiscally entrapping the ignorant but noble tax payers? Do you feel sorry for these leveraged bankers who simply lent borrowed and printed money knowing full well it was the hard assets of the country they obsessed over? Who's delusional here pal?

jm's picture

You don't need to vote to get a loan. When you let the state coddle corporations, brueaucrats, and welfare addicts from cradle to grave, you gotta pay the price. 

samjam7's picture

In other words you are guilty of 20 trillion US debt accumulated over the last decade and whatever will become to you, you deserve it! Good rational you have there jm

BarkingCat's picture

Majority of people are. That is who they picked to run their government - politicians who promise to give give give, without any thought whether these promises are even possible.

These politicians reflect the people. The credit addicted up to their eye balls in personal debt people.

Itchy and Scratchy's picture

Kinda like hookers who enable their strong arm pimps to knock their teeth out when they don't produce sufficiently for them!

jm's picture

That's the straight dope.  But here's the difference.  The United States government will not default. When and if necessary they will print it away.  But only when necessary.

Comment c'est. 

Itchy and Scratchy's picture

For only as long as they can pay and feed their gargantuan military complex!

jm's picture

whatevs.  Real men deal with situations as they come.

Pussies whine and blame others for their sad state. 


falak pema's picture

It wasn't THE GREEKS it was a thin minority class that runs Greece who skimmed off the top and scammed, thanks to GS help, Europe into letting them into the club.

The people were scammed. We saw that happen in front of our eyes when Greece went belly up in 2010 and those Oligarchs sent all the wealth to Swiss banks in private accounts, the resultant debt taken on from Euro banks went on the public ledger (like all over first world). And the people got creamed more and more to their underwear.

But that  upper crust "greed without shame" in Greece goes back to Constantinople's Empire. Greece has never been a true democracy since Rome's destruction of Greek power and subsequent Byzantine Empire.

Its been Oligarchy rule for 2000 years!


Blue Vervain's picture

Actually those who got Greece into this debt fled the country long ago taking vast sums of  borrowed money with them. Sadly Syriza's response to their predicament is to childishly lash out  by granting passage to half a million refugees and rising.

Stox's picture

The EU just seems to be following the US playbook, on an accelerated timetable.


The US was founded to be a Federalist form of government with much power residing in the states.  An absurdly small pretext was found to radically convert it to a highly centralized national system whose power and control over the states only grows with only token pushback on rare occasion.


There is no such thing as a "merger of equals" in business or in government.

eforce's picture

That may have been the idea sold to the public, but the elite wanted an American super state, they knew that over time the population would become complacent and the time for taking over (1913) would come and by giving America a strong consitution it would see through it's purpose of establishing a NWO.

jm's picture

No.  there was a lack of precedents or templates to deal with this situation.  So the fall-back was to apply the standard wind-up process on a hopelssly bankrupt nation. It enforces receivership control and keeps Greece a going concern.

All the over-the-top narrative is just extrapolated nonsense.