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Greece Loses Last Trace Of Sovereignty After EU Takes Control Of Greek Borders

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Ever since this summer's dramatic "referendum" farce, and the subsequent hijacking of the Greek banking system by the ECB's ELA, Greece has officially been a nation without state sovereignty. Europe reminded Greece of just this a few days ago when days after its waved the carrot before Turkey promising billions in aid, and an EU acceptance fast track, it threatened Greece with expulsion from the Schengen customs union (a union which as a subsequent leak revealed will likely be "temporarily" shuttered for as long as two years unless the refugee crisis is brought under control).

Perhaps to confirm that few things will stand in its mission-creep to subjugate the sovereignty of European member states, starting with the poorest and most insolvent, namely Greece, we find out that the EU and its border agency, is not only preparing to take over border control of countries that have been found to be "ill-equipped" to deal with the refugee problem, but has already launched this plan into action in Greece.

Because after being threatened with expulsion from the Schengen zone, Greece (which does not actually share a contiguous, physical border with any Schengen nation) caved in and accepted an offer from the European Union to bolster its borders with foreign guards as well as other aid, including tents and first aid kits. This decision follows reports that Greece was unwilling to accept foreign border guards on its territory, but these were later denied by the government.

The deployment of additional officers will begin next week.

As Keep Talking Greece writes, "the masks have fallen. Hand in hand, the European Union and the Frontex want to cancel national sovereignty and take over border controls in the pretext of “safeguarding the Schengen borders”. With controversial claims, they use the case of Greece to create an example that could soon happen “in the border area near you.”  And the plan is all German."

Paranoia? Or just another confirmation that the Eurozone is using every incremental, and produced, crisis to cement its power over discrete European state sovereignty and wipe out the cultural and religious borders the prevent the amalgamation of Europe into a Brussels, Berlin and Frankfurt-controlled superstate?

Decide for yourselves after reading this from The Independent:

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EU considers measures to intervene if states’ borders are not guarded

The European Union is considering a measure that would give a new EU border force powers to intervene and guard a member state’s external frontier to protect the Schengen open-borders zone, EU officials and diplomats said yesterday in Brussels.

Such a move would be controversial. It might be blocked by states wary of surrendering sovereign control of their territory. But the discussion reflects fears that Greece’s failure to manage a flood of migrants from Turkey has brought Schengen’s open borders to the brink of collapse.

Germany’s Thomas de Maiziere, in Brussels for a meeting of EU interior ministers, said he expected proposal from the EU executive due on December 15 to include giving responsibility for controlling a frontier with a non-Schengen country to Frontex, the EU’s border agency, if a member state failed to do so.

“The Commission should put forward a proposal … which has the goal of, when a national state is not effectively fulfilling its duty of defending the external border, then that can be taken over by Frontex,” de Maiziere told reporters.

He noted a Franco-German push for Frontex, whose role is largely to coordinate national border agencies, to be complemented by a permanent European Border and Coast Guard – a measure the European Commission has confirmed it will propose.

Greece has come under heavy pressure from states concerned about Schengen this week to accept EU offers of help on its borders.

Diplomats have warned that Athens might find itself effectively excluded from the Schengen zone if it failed to work with other Europeans to control migration.

Earlier this week, Greece finally agreed to accept help from Frontex, averting a showdown at the ministerial meeting in Brussels.

EU diplomats said the proposals to bolster defence of the external Schengen frontiers would look at whether the EU must rely on an invitation from the state concerned.

“One option could be not to seek the member state’s approval for deploying Frontex but activating it by a majority vote among all 28 members,” an EU official said.

Under the Schengen Borders Code, the Commission can now recommend a state accept help from other EU members to control its frontiers. But it cannot force it to accept help – something that may, in any case, not be practicable.

The code also gives states the right to impose controls on internal Schengen borders if external borders are neglected.

As Greece has no land border with the rest of the Schengen zone, that could mean obliging ferries and flights coming from Greece to undergo passport checks.

Asked whether an EU force should require an invitation or could be imposed by the bloc, Swedish Interior Minister Anders Ygeman said: “Border control is the competence for the member states, and it’s hard to say that there is a need to impose that on member states forcefully.

“On the other hand,” he said, referring to this week’s pressure on Greece, “we must safeguard the borders of Schengen, and what we have seen is that if a country is not able to protect its own border, it can leave Schengen or accept Frontex. It’s not mandatory, but in practice it’s quite mandatory.”

A dramatic increase in EU powers over national territory would be deeply controversial in much of Europe.

On Thursday, Danes, who are part of the Schengen zone, heeded Eurosceptic calls and voted against giving their government power to deepen its cooperation with the EU policy agency.

The European Union faces another test over the next two years as Britain, its second biggest economy, prepares to hold a referendum on whether to quit – although it is not a member of the 26-nation Schengen zone. (full article Irish Independent)

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Our Greek friends at KTG are hardly enthused about ceding control of their borders to Europe:

Dramatically increase EU powers over national territories? Be my guest. Brussels and Berlin should not be surprised to see the increase of Eurosceptics spreading like mushrooms. Brussels and Berlin may save the Schengen zone and the Euro zone, but in the end they will stand there with their pants down.

Maybe, but that would require Europe's "sovereign" states to take a stand against the oppressor. So far, they have all failed and refused to do that as any attempts to exit the Euro and Eurozone, would mean immediate loss of all Euro-denominated savings and a collapse of the financial sector as Greece found out the hard way.

For the time being however, we bring to mind the May 30, 2008 presentation from then-AIG's Bernard Connolly who laid out precisely what is happening now in Europe some seven years ago.

Here is his answer to the question What Europe Wants:

To use global issues as excuses to extend its power:

  • environmental issues: increase control over member countries; advance idea of global governance
  • terrorism: use excuse for greater control over police and judicial issues; increase extent of surveillance
  • global financial crisis: kill two birds (free market; Anglo-Saxon economies) with one stone (Europe-wide regulator; attempts at global financial governance)
  • EMU: create a crisis to force introduction of “European economic government”

The full presentation, uncannily prescient then, can be read below.

 

 

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Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:19 | 6879798 sam i am
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Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:29 | 6879820 Looney
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Within a handful of years, Greece has completed the metamorphosis:

1. Steaming pile of fresh shit.

2. Slightly crusted piece of shit.

3. Sun-dried old piece of shit.

What a shame!

Looney

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:20 | 6879945 Gordon Freeman
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They richly deserve to lose any trace of sovereignty

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:12 | 6879967 Itchy and Scratchy
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Spoken like a true tribal parasite! The Iranians have the same idea!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 19:27 | 6881315 Baby Bladeface
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Rename to South Bavaria and the bills to Berlin then send.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:58 | 6880092 TAALR Swift
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Sad but true, in a country where men act as scared serfs, and women have become cheap whores, at 4 EUR/hr.

When a People slide to such a depth of despondency and lack of self-respect, they can no longer be called a People. Rather, they have become as Cattle -- to be bought, sold, moved around, milked and eventually slaughtered.

This kind of truth may upset some people who still have a different mental and emotional association for Greece, but they would be merely projecting their own bias and cognitive dissonance about the situation.

The cycle of Depression will not have bottomed out until a person or a People fully shed their veneer or vanity and false pride, and embrace the truth. For only then can they start the long upward climb to human and national dignity, by acting accordingly.

For those people and countries who are tempted to look 'down' at Greece: Beware. Greece is but a Testbed for what is coming to your countries, as the march toward a One-World Order continues by the Globalists.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:11 | 6880139 Itchy and Scratchy
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Could not be better spoken! I love the 'cattle' reference .... Very orthodox 'you-know-who!'

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:25 | 6880203 Flagit
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Foreign guards on the boarders today.

Cities, streets, and shopping centers tomorrow.

"Stand down people, Greece missed it's bond payment last week, no shopping until an agreement has been made."

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 02:22 | 6882371 edotabin
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I guess the Greeks couldn't bring in the refugees fast enough on their own.  Now they will have bigger, faster boats and all the means necessary to flood Europe as quickly as possible.

Funny thing is, I'm actually one of the few people on here that believes the whole world is one and eventually will be made up of one race.  Given enough time (4-500 years) I'm for it actually but not like this man, not like this.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 16:17 | 6880734 EddieLomax
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Best summary of the situation in Greece, and unfortunately the UK and other such countries are on the same path.

Just look at the EU, they cannot figure out how to control their own borders so they hand a authoritarian imperialist 3 billion Euros to try and convince him to send fewer migrants.  We think we are enlightened and that the previous generations we inherited all this from were a bit backwards because they lacked our high values, but actually it is us who have a poverty of thought.  We cannot even say who we are as a people anymore in parts of Europe, sneering at our national identity more because we cannot understand the concept of being a nation or a people then because we have learned something new.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 17:33 | 6880952 Killdo
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"...where men act as scared serfs.."

this is probably to do with what they do to children in public schools in Greece - before they are allowed to enter their schools every morning they must pray (like serfs to their invisible master) even if their parents are not religious. I've seen it a few months ago when I was in Greece dropping off my friends' kids to school every morning. If they don't accept the sheeple framework (praying) they get punished (according to my friends' kids - I didn't ask how). 

How can people not grow up to be scared serfs if this kind of child abuse is done to them from such an early age? 

They aslso have little churches pretty much on all the school grounds I've seen there. No wonder they are waiting for some kind of invisible master to save them and have no idea what to do themselves? 

Preferably in a way of some kind of charity (because unlike collabration, charity reinforces dependence - the way totalitarian mafia prefers)

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 15:46 | 6880629 1033eruth
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Tell me how the US is on a different path and doesn't ALSO richly deserve to lose any trace of sovereignty.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 17:01 | 6880861 BarkingCat
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The difference is that Greece is an ancient nation with population that is ethnically Greek.

US is a young nation and there is no such thing as ethnic American.

Closest thing that one could claim that comes to that are American Indians and we all know that they are the conquered tribes that control nothing.

So, the southern invasion can be seen as another metamorphosis of the nation.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 17:37 | 6880968 Killdo
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the only difference is that Greeks have been brainwashed to thik they are actually not religious - even though they seem to be as relgious, scared  and as deluded as Americans. Every time I visit Greece I am surprised how it increasingly reminds me of America. I go there about once a year

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:45 | 6880033 Noplebian
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History shows when the fiat currency system reaches it's end cycle, there is always a call for war. This one however, will wipe out billions!

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/road-to-ww3-time-to...

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 17:43 | 6880911 BarkingCat
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What history?

Real fiat did not exist until after WWI for most western countries and then it was anchored to the US dollar which was anchored to gold until 1973

 

This is a brand new experience.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:32 | 6880218 Noplebian
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The Greek people voted Syriza back in directly after being shafted by them post referendum....it's hard to feel sorry for people when they have this kind of collective mindset!

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/road-to-ww3-time-to...

 

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Sat, 12/05/2015 - 17:48 | 6881001 BarkingCat
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You might like to make videos when fat people shit on your face for money but most people do not.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 18:55 | 6881197 Itchy and Scratchy
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Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:23 | 6879807 yrad
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I just got back to the States after 2 weeks touring Greece and her islands. I'd go back tomorrow. Great people. No issues.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:01 | 6879906 Bangin7GramRocks
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Welcome to Greece. Prime vacation colony of the EU. Stay in your resort at all times for your own personal safety. Cheers & enjoy your holiday!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:14 | 6880163 Itchy and Scratchy
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I guess they have done a good job of hiding their suicide epidemic?

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 15:09 | 6880514 BarnacleBill
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Good to hear, yrad. I haven't been back to Greece since spending three months on Corfu in a camping ground in 1976. Time I went back to give them some moral support, poor buggers.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 17:42 | 6880983 Killdo
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I like Greeks too but they have a serious problem (very well described in Michael Lewis' Boomernag) - they are fundamentally unable to meaningfully aggregate - nbody trusts anybody else. Therefore it's a failled socety. My theory is that this is because of religion and how it's brainwashed into young children (and they feel betrayed by their parents who pretend they are not relgious yet allow their children to be daily humilated before they enter school - see my comments above ). We have the same religion in Serbia, but priests are not allowed to inflitrate in all the levels of society as in Greece. That's why Serbs are proud and independent and Greeks (althogh very similar in many other ways) seem timid and full of fear. 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:27 | 6879818 WhyWait
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The Greek people have been repeatedly crushed by violent interventions, first the Nazis then the British then the CIA/NATO.  They have resisted bravely but have no experience of actually winning.My guess, expecially considering the death threat Sarkozy made to Papandreou 5 years back, is that Russia backed out of helping them because Russian help would have meant war.  As NATO and the EU weaken and as the situation in Greece goes from bad to worse,  the Greek people are going to have to face up to these threats. 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 16:19 | 6880706 fleur de lis
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An alliance with Russia would be the best bet for Greece in every way, but the Greeks have to do their part by clearly understanding and restructuring the parasitic socio-financial structures they have in place now.

If they think that a Russian alliance means easy money they're wrong. But it would mean sovereignty, better commerce and fiscal policy, and long term cultural survival. Right now they want to continue getting handouts from the EU as long as possible while retaining sovereignty.

The EU knows their weak point -- they are willing to gamble everything for an easy life so they will be strung along until they are stretched so thin they will cave into the EU demands.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 17:47 | 6880998 Killdo
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I've spent a lot of time telling my Greek friends (educated in the UK, PhDs rom Cambridge etc) to start innovating as opposed to just waiting for Germans to invent something. Or working as IT support for American firms. I never thought German engineering was that good (I've had a Mercedes and was not impressed with it all, also a Rolex watch which is a piece of expensive crap) 

Yet there is like a wall of fear I awlys encounter and my well educated friends never even try to innovate - all they are looking for is some salvish-IT support or government job. No ambition and no balls - and it's always been like that - not just since the current crisis

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 17:55 | 6881011 BarkingCat
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I really wonder if ancient Greeks were the same ethnic group as modern Greeks, or did they die out and we're replaced by some other group that migrated there and its record is list to history.

The ancient Greeks were great scientists and fierce warriors.

Modern ones are neither. 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:28 | 6879819 Government need...
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THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT FOR THE US.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:29 | 6879824 williambanzai7
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AIG and Greece, two ponzinomic basket cases

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:31 | 6879830 Pliskin
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'Looks like we got us a sow here instead of a boar.'

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:32 | 6879833 jm
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Greece is a distressed debt in receivership.  Kind of unsettling, this experiment in how to wind-up a bankrupted nation. Once the Schauble reforms and a viable commerical code is in place, a new Greek government will take over management. 

The alternative is no more bridge financing, no more bailouts, and incomes reduced bonsai-style.

It sucks, but comment c'est.  

 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:57 | 6879893 Itchy and Scratchy
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And we be talkin' 'New Goldman Sachs/Soros Greek Government' will be taking over management too!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:11 | 6879931 jm
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No. The conditions for a Greek exit from recievership are well-established. They are needed.

They are listed below (with some commentary):

  • Streamline VAT (balance your books by enhancing revenue and making flows transparent)
  • Broaden the tax base (improve asset quality by share tax burdens across society, not by taxing private enterprise out of existence)
  • Reform the pension system (Entitlement spending expense needs to reasonably match revenue)
  • Adopt a civil code of procedure (This is huge and will mean wholesale legal transplantation of an existing commercial code from somewhere)
  • Safeguarding the legal independence of the Greek statistical office (Make your numbers trustworthy and improve quality)
  • Full implementation of automatic spending cuts (there has to be a primary balance)
  • Meet bank recovery and resolution directive (there has to be a thorough purging of the excesses and the unfit cannot survive regardless of who their cronies are)
  • Deal with non-performing loans (NPLs) in a consistent way (actually sell assets to the best cash offers, not to cronies or those offering kick-backs on the side)
  • Privatize the electricity transmission grid (de-socialize, not re-socialize)
  • Ensure independence of privatization body TAIPED (the revenue-maximizing bid gets lifted,
  • De-politicize the Greek administration (Insulate Greek government officials from those that lose from these reforms)

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:31 | 6879960 Itchy and Scratchy
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Yeah! And all those 'Well Established Conditions' should be rolled up and slid into the tight dry ass holes of the blood sucking international banking syndicates that inflicted this cultural and economic genocide on the proud but ignorant people of the land! Default on those fuckers regain control at any cost and throw those parasites out forever!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:49 | 6880046 Anopheles
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You are delusional in you spite.   Those "international banking syndicates" did EXACTLY what Greece ASKED THEM TO DO.  If you think that Greece was hoodwinked, you are in denial.   Greece KNEW EXACTLY what was going on.

That's why they accepted the money then, and the SAME reason, they WANT MORE money today.

Greece is like a crack addict, but Greece is addicted to other people's money, and they HAVE sold their sole to get it. 

 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:06 | 6880126 Itchy and Scratchy
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Please cite a single referendum by the voters calling for debt to GDP of over 300% and total mortgaging of their lands and country! Do you think those kind banker loan sharks didn't know how and why they were fiscally entrapping the ignorant but noble tax payers? Do you feel sorry for these leveraged bankers who simply lent borrowed and printed money knowing full well it was the hard assets of the country they obsessed over? Who's delusional here pal?

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:36 | 6880241 jm
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You don't need to vote to get a loan. When you let the state coddle corporations, brueaucrats, and welfare addicts from cradle to grave, you gotta pay the price. 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 17:01 | 6880858 samjam7
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In other words you are guilty of 20 trillion US debt accumulated over the last decade and whatever will become to you, you deserve it! Good rational you have there jm

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 18:07 | 6881044 BarkingCat
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Majority of people are. That is who they picked to run their government - politicians who promise to give give give, without any thought whether these promises are even possible.

These politicians reflect the people. The credit addicted up to their eye balls in personal debt people.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 18:26 | 6881096 Itchy and Scratchy
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Kinda like hookers who enable their strong arm pimps to knock their teeth out when they don't produce sufficiently for them!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 20:27 | 6881550 jm
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That's the straight dope.  But here's the difference.  The United States government will not default. When and if necessary they will print it away.  But only when necessary.

Comment c'est. 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 20:36 | 6881575 Itchy and Scratchy
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For only as long as they can pay and feed their gargantuan military complex!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 20:43 | 6881606 jm
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whatevs.  Real men deal with situations as they come.

Pussies whine and blame others for their sad state. 

 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:14 | 6880162 falak pema
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It wasn't THE GREEKS it was a thin minority class that runs Greece who skimmed off the top and scammed, thanks to GS help, Europe into letting them into the club.

The people were scammed. We saw that happen in front of our eyes when Greece went belly up in 2010 and those Oligarchs sent all the wealth to Swiss banks in private accounts, the resultant debt taken on from Euro banks went on the public ledger (like all over first world). And the people got creamed more and more to their underwear.

But that  upper crust "greed without shame" in Greece goes back to Constantinople's Empire. Greece has never been a true democracy since Rome's destruction of Greek power and subsequent Byzantine Empire.

Its been Oligarchy rule for 2000 years!

Ironic.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 14:53 | 6880464 Blue Vervain
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Actually those who got Greece into this debt fled the country long ago taking vast sums of  borrowed money with them. Sadly Syriza's response to their predicament is to childishly lash out  by granting passage to half a million refugees and rising.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:34 | 6879836 Stox
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The EU just seems to be following the US playbook, on an accelerated timetable.

 

The US was founded to be a Federalist form of government with much power residing in the states.  An absurdly small pretext was found to radically convert it to a highly centralized national system whose power and control over the states only grows with only token pushback on rare occasion.

 

There is no such thing as a "merger of equals" in business or in government.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:55 | 6879885 eforce
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That may have been the idea sold to the public, but the elite wanted an American super state, they knew that over time the population would become complacent and the time for taking over (1913) would come and by giving America a strong consitution it would see through it's purpose of establishing a NWO.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:59 | 6879898 jm
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No.  there was a lack of precedents or templates to deal with this situation.  So the fall-back was to apply the standard wind-up process on a hopelssly bankrupt nation. It enforces receivership control and keeps Greece a going concern.

All the over-the-top narrative is just extrapolated nonsense.

 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:17 | 6879938 Itchy and Scratchy
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I am sure there are all kinds of fancy small print put in place by the parasite banking syndicates that will effectively bleed the life out of the innocents and defenceless! Keep on sucking that fascist cock ... they might just throw you a few crumbs along the way!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:43 | 6880023 eforce
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Regarding consitutions, The Protocols says....

 

10. Liberalism produced constitutional states, which took the place of what was the only safeguard of the goyim, namely, despotism; and a constitution, as you well know, is nothing else but a school of discords, misunderstandings, quarrels, disagreements, fruitless party agitations, party whims - in a word, a school of everything that serves to destroy the personality of state activity. The tribune of the "talkeries" has, no less effectively than the press, condemned the rulers to inactivity and impotence, and thereby rendered them useless and superfluous, for which reason indeed they have been in many countries deposed. Then it was that the era of republics become possible of realization; and then it was that we replaced the ruler by a caricature of a government - by a President, taken from the mob, from the midst of our puppet creatures, or slaves. This was the foundation of the mine which we have laid under the goy people, i should rather say, under the goy peoples.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:34 | 6879838 falak pema
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Arbeit macht frei comes to land of Aristotle!

"Our freedom and your slave arbeit that makes our banks rich as we bleed you moar n moar. Your lands belong to us."

"Haff you understood our message Greece?"--- Mutti is now not amused.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:40 | 6879850 jm
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In insolvency, creditors take a write-down. Debtors pay a price too.

There is a millenia old proverb that says "Debt makes slaves".  Schlomo was quite right.  

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:33 | 6879981 Itchy and Scratchy
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Tell Schlomo to go and fuck himself and perhaps you as well!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:37 | 6879843 rita
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The west and the middle east seem to be in total disarray, every day a little worse by measures taken by governments who seem intent of making chaos, fear and nothing seems to make sense. How can we allow this madness drag us into chaos and not fight, rise up and get rid of them.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:41 | 6879852 Itchy and Scratchy
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Game over for a once proud nation!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:42 | 6879854 css1971
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In practice, the European Union is The Fourth Reich.

 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:43 | 6879859 Dr. Bonzo
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Nothing a few determined military officers with historical ambitions can't cure.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:45 | 6879860 The Pope
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3,000 years ago it was XERses.. Today it's JERKses

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:45 | 6879862 hotrod
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HITLER WOULD BE PROUD.  HE GOT HIS WAY.  GERMANY OWNS EUROPE

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:51 | 6879878 jm
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What an utterly stupid comment.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:48 | 6879864 g'kar
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"Greece Loses Last Trace Of Sovereignty After EU Takes Control Of Greek Borders"

 

....to insure a more orderly flood of illegal immigrants into the welfare states of the eu

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 18:59 | 6881213 BarkingCat
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Insure??

Who is writing the policy???

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:47 | 6879867 Itchy and Scratchy
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Many lives were lost protecting those very same borders and for very good reason! Without them a country is nothing! The current clueless and pathetic progressive visionary political class simply shrug their shoulders like the retards which they truly are!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:50 | 6879875 Dr. Engali
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I am amazed at how people throughout the world are just rolling over and allowing the elites to do to them whatever they want. What does it take for people to fucking wake up?

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:08 | 6879908 Itchy and Scratchy
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4 decades of progressive liberal socialist 'big government is good' brainwashing propaganda curriculum in the union centric so-called 'public education system'! All it took was a little Marxist education and a few shiny trinkets and the current weak minded generation simply handed over the keys to the country!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:50 | 6879876 Catullus
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Greece: Europe's next Kosovo Ghetto Project.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:12 | 6879933 22winmag
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With NATO's filthy fingerprints all over the place.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:47 | 6879984 Itchy and Scratchy
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Don't forget the tribal IMF and World Bank pigs too!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:57 | 6879889 Bill of Rights
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Sad really a beaten down people who can't even fight back...

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:03 | 6879909 Itchy and Scratchy
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There will be bloodshed and cleansing in the end as usual!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:20 | 6879944 The Greek horse
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ZH posted the other day Israeli army training in island of Crete vs S300 Russian missile range? I am shamed to say I am Greek.. The enemy of your enemy is your friend right? Why not give that base to Russia as Turkey has been responsible for most of the migrants coming into Europe thru Greece!! Turkey has raped Greece for centuries and again trying today! I have been  commenting on this issue for a long time.. Tsipras and politicians,banksters in Greece should be under heavy attacks full blown civil War.. Greece should watch the movie 300 Spartans to remember what is Glory!!! Wake the Fuck UP you slaves....harsh but true.....

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:39 | 6879999 Anopheles
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Reality is that the present situation is exactly what the people of Greece have wanted and voted for the past decades.

Greece voluntarily took on their massive debt.  Nobody forced them.  But neither the people or the politicians wanted to address the fact that they are all deadbeats and won't admit it, and don't want to do anything about it.  They've been kicking the can down the street for decades.   Now they've hit a dead end.

Bankruptcy is a huge shock, when you've been believing in fairy tales living off someone else's money. 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:49 | 6880047 _ConanTheLibert...
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 "people of Greece have wanted and voted for the past decades." ... "Greece voluntarily took on their massive debt. "

The will of the people of Greece is NOT the same as what their politicians do/want

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:57 | 6880087 Anopheles
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You are wrong.   The people have always voted for the MONEY, and buried their heads in the sand, ignoring how the politicians got that money.   The ONLY politicians that got into power are the ones who PROMISED the MOST MONEY. 

Greece is like a crack addict, except Greece is addicted to OTHER PEOPLES MONEY.  Like an addict, Greeks don't care how the politicians get that money for them.  And the Greeks never asked, they never wanted to know.

But now they've run out of money, and like a junky, they BLAME SOMEONE ELSE.   

Early this year the Greeks voted for sovereignty and not to the bankers, but THEY STILL WANT MORE MONEY.    They can't have it BOTH WAYS.  So the people, and politicians CHOSE THE MONEY. 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:10 | 6880144 _ConanTheLibert...
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Got anything to back up your claim?

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 18:29 | 6880838 Anopheles
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Yeah,  EVERY TIME the Greek government even mentions the word austerity, there are violent protests in the streets.

To date, the government has TALKED about austerity, but they HAVEN'T actually DONE anything about it.   Yet every day, they give up more and more sovereignty and there's no violent protests.    But the second you even TALK about taking away their "free" money.... 

So tell me, which is REALLY more important? 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 18:45 | 6881163 Itchy and Scratchy
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Listen Einstein this issue is not about debt or money borrowed. It is about strategic geographic location. The lenders knew/know very well the loans weren't/aren't gonna be paid back. That was the original intention followed by control and expropriation. They have no interest in repayment.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:56 | 6880061 Itchy and Scratchy
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Total Bulishit Nonsense! The present situation is the result of various self-aggrandizing and extremely stupid political classes that bamboozled the ignorant electorate into huge bureaucratic white elephant projects and huge government largesse! The DEAD END for the banking syndicates and by default the EU commies is default asap & regain total 100% sovereignty no matter the pain or costs!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:10 | 6880098 Anopheles
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Geeks are like crack addicts.     If you offer them two choices, money in one hand and sovereignty with the pains that go with it, in the other.  They will ALWAYS pick the MONEY.  

That's what addicts do.  Greeks are addicted to free money. 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 14:39 | 6880424 rejected
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Might want to look at the rest of the "free" west when talking about addicted to free money.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 19:52 | 6881415 Fod
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See, if you ever bought anything with credit, you too are addicted to free money.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:14 | 6880159 Anopheles
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The people don't want the truth.   The politicians told the people they MUST have austerity, becasue austerity is THE TRUTH.     

What happened? The people revolted.    Isn't THAT a sign of the will of the people? 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:24 | 6880197 Itchy and Scratchy
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Any attempt at a sovereignty referendum has been quashed or reversed. Former democratically elected PM Papandreo was removed and replaced by a Goldman Sachs puppet for just suggesting the idea!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:39 | 6880000 Itchy and Scratchy
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Unfortunately for many their brains have been turned into socialist/Marxist mush. They have be conned into believing their are no alternatives to surrender and self-immolation!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:56 | 6880077 Sir John Bagot Glubb
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Greeks, for reasons I cannot fathom and while fiercely individualistic, have always been, like South Americans, suckers for lying sell-out Marxists like Tsipris.  Both sets of people get fooled over and over again.  As a result, I don't feel sorry for them.  Greeks aren't stupid. They just need to get honest with themselves and quit believing the Marxist demagogues who keep promising something for nothing.  Doesn't look like they will however.  They are now a serf and slave state of the EU.  Mission accomplished.  The Marxist-based EU is loving it.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:15 | 6880170 Lucky Leprachaun
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My take exactly. We can all admit the depradations of the banksters and the Brussels criminals but the Greeks continually voted in politicians who borrowed to give them free stuff. Responsible politicians (hardly any) disappeared without trace.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:29 | 6880217 Itchy and Scratchy
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This is not about the phoney printed Euro debt. This is about total control subjugation and soverginty eradication! See pass the shiny trinkets and follow the power trail!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:42 | 6880017 Sir John Bagot Glubb
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Looks like the entire refugee crisis was intentionally manufactured and orchestrated so the EU could exert more control over member states and deal the last blow to any vestiges of sovereignty they might have left.  This has Totalitarian World Government written all over it.  It seems like every crisis and tragedy nowadays is used in some fashion to advance the World Government agenda.  

The Left hasn't figured out yet how to torture events like San Bernardino into a case for World Government but they will.  Notice how the first reaction they had was to blame it all on guns.

 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:53 | 6880066 Itchy and Scratchy
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Sure does! Resident Evil my friend!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 15:55 | 6880661 Oldrepublic
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go watch Gearoid O Colmain on RT, now has a complete

transcript

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:48 | 6880042 GRDguy
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How many illustrations does one need to understand The Great Red Dragon is accomplishing its goal of "owning the earth in fee-simple."

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:49 | 6880045 _ConanTheLibert...
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Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:53 | 6880067 The Greek horse
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GOLDEN DAWN!  That is all that's left for Greece... I know the Greeks especially their brainwashing media will tell you that this political party is NAZIS.. I reply with you are morons and will die as slaves.. As an American born, Greece will be just memories for me as to how beautiful it once was especially the islands beaches, culture...   

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:11 | 6880152 _ConanTheLibert...
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The EU is giving Greece a GOLDEN SHOWER

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:14 | 6880167 The Greek horse
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LOL pissing on there back and telling them don't worry it's just rain

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:56 | 6880081 pocomotion
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The new European country to be built in the likeness of Euro design and governance will now be known as -------"GADUS"

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbB-hwEoMA8

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 12:59 | 6880101 Ms No
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The whole problem with the superstates and the consolidation of power is that Greece nor any other country can fight them on their own.  If you step out of line they will come at you with everything they can.  We can only judge how much resistance is taking place in Greece by what the MSM shows us.  Even then we have seen protests, riots and even politicians attempting to fight back in at least meager ways.  By all indications Greece has been punished dearly for any resistance they have offered and alone their odds are zero.  Remember, these migrants were transported there by someone or something very organized. 

You can't really blame Germany or any other country for not wanting to feed Greece's starving childen, after all it's likely that their children will be in the same boat before too long.  You also can't blame Greece for swallowing the debt hook and going along with the EU consolidation of super state power because what choice did they ever really have? 

What choice did you have when your government went in to debt to an extent that it can never be repaid?  Isn't that a crime?  Does that mean that the banks own us, our children and all our personal and national assets now?  Fuck them, they achieved our debt levels through influencing our corrupt governments.  The reset is coming anyway everyone should default and then hang the fuckers.  Our votes in the shitty two party system don't even count!  This will continue until there is a major revolt coming from numerous populations and hopefully when that happens we don't have to watch them all get crushed.  

 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:31 | 6880220 Noplebian
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The Greek people voted Syriza back in directly after being shafted by them post referendum....it's hard to feel sorry for people when they have this kind of collective mindset!

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/road-to-ww3-time-to...

 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 14:31 | 6880387 rejected
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Amazing how many still buy into elections!

They just refuse to believe how they've been scammed when they enter that voting booth.

The farce is really strong in this area.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 20:02 | 6881455 Fod
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Still, in the last elections in Greece, about 40% of the voting population did not go to vote, in a country where voting is mandatory.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:33 | 6880228 Itchy and Scratchy
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The Greeks ironically are in a powerful position. Default and the house of cards Communist EU project comes crashing down. Spain Portugal and Italy are waiting in the wings! The time is ripe!

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 13:34 | 6880231 cookies anyone
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tsipras/hillarius 2016

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 14:16 | 6880335 Insurrexion
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Power it's self has for a long time produced nothing but the signs of its resemblance.

And at the same time another figure of power comes into play due to the collective demand for signs of power -- a holy union is reconstructed around its disappearance.The whole world adheres to this more or less in terror of the collapse of the political.

And in the end the game of power becomes nothing but the critical obsession with power -- obsession with its death, and obsession with its survival which increases as it disappears.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 14:20 | 6880352 Ms No
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Who needs stinking sovereignity anyway.

"There comes a time when we heed a certain NWO call.... there are people dying...We are the world... we are ISIS and their children... we are the ones who make a better day just you and me..... there are people dying... we're saving our own lives.. We are all apart of the banks great big family....

We are the world... we are the children"

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 14:22 | 6880362 Niall Of The Ni...
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If I actually thought this would help stop the flow of Muslim invaders I'd be all for it.

What this really is is a major step towards walling Greeks into their own country GDR-style, to stop them from fleeing their country's debt. The door will remain open for the scum of the Middle East and Africa to keep swanning in.

When our masters get serious about securing borders, it's to keep debt-slaves in, not invaders out. 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 14:22 | 6880364 rejected
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Never let a crises go to waste. No matter the crises the state grabs more power.

And there's always the "elected" traitors to help for a few pieces of fiat.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 14:26 | 6880374 Peter Pan
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The Germans already control the government therefore it was all just a show until the government of Greece "gave in".

Just like the referendum. It looked like the people had control until the government strangely went the other way.

The prolem is that while they have control over Greece they  really have no control over the eventual demise of the Euro experiment.

The proof? Even the Brits are not convinced about giving up the pound.

 

 

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 14:29 | 6880379 Fuku Ben
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Don't sing the Seikilos Epitaph for Greece just yet.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 14:47 | 6880446 Peter Pan
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Greece, which is always known as the cradle of European civilization will one day be known as the graveyard of the Euro. It seems hard to believe but just wait. Eventually all paper experiments combined with the heavy breathing of foreign controllers come to an end.

Maintaining an empire requires lots of money and one day Europe will not hvae enough.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 18:17 | 6881068 Itchy and Scratchy
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My sentiments also except after much pain suffering and bloodshed.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 15:37 | 6880597 Full Nelson
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So Greece now becomes an ISIS staging ground with Frontex facilitating.  Great.  Easy to get lost with all those islands.  Every Greek male is required to serve in the military.  Greece's only hope for sovereignty at this point is a junta.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 16:17 | 6880735 Oldrepublic
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Frontex is being used to protect migrants from going out of Greece in order to save the Schengen agreement and to keep the Dublin accords,  by using Greece as a giant concentration camp for economic migrants. As soon as the word gets back via social media that the easy path to Germany and Sweden is blocked, the wefarians  will avoid coming  to Europe.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 16:20 | 6880740 Jim Leyritz
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Unelected EU rules Greece.

It always did.

The Greeks were only given the illusion of self-government.

Greece is not alone.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 16:44 | 6880806 TheDanimal
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Why the hell does anyone care about being included in Schengen anymore? Europe is broke, Schengen is suspended(sorta), and its future looks bleak.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 17:58 | 6881019 atomicwasted
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Good story, awful headline.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 23:05 | 6881914 andrewp111
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In any Federal Union of States, control of the Union's borders is naturally a Federal function. Anyone who pretends otherwise has to be smoking something really strong. Why didn't the EU set up a proper Federal border guard a decade or two ago?

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 20:42 | 6885289 Fed_is_Love
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Just waiting for Turkey to invade Greece's island with military bases.

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