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Iraq May Seek "Direct Military Intervention From Russia" To Expel Turkish Troops
Turkey just can’t seem to help itself when it comes to escalations in the Mid-East.
First, Erdogan intentionally reignited the conflict between Ankara and the PKK in an effort to scare the public into nullifying a democratic election outcome. Then, the Turks shot down a Russian warplane near the Syrian border. Finally, in what very well might be an effort to protect Islamic State oil smuggling routes, Erdogan sent 150 troops and two dozen tanks to Bashiqa, just northeast of Mosul in a move that has infuriated Baghdad.
We discussed the troop deployment at length on Saturday in “Did Turkey Just Invade Iraq To Protect Erdogan's ISIS Oil Smuggling Routes?,” and you’re encouraged to review the analysis in its entirety, but here was our conclusion:
The backlash underscores the fact that Iraq does not want help from NATO when it comes to fighting ISIS. Iraqis generally believe the US is in bed with Islamic State and you can bet that Russia and Iran will be keen on advising Baghdad to be exceptionally assertive when it comes to expelling a highly suspicious Turkish presence near Najma.
You’re reminded that Iran wields considerable influence both politically and militarily in Iraq. The Iraqi military has proven largely ineffective at defending the country against the ISIS advance and so, the Quds-backed Shiite militias including the Badr Organisation, Asaib Ahl al-Haq and Kataib Hezbollah have stepped in to fill the void (see our full account here).
Of course that means that the Ayatollah looms large in Iraq and when it comes to loyalty, both the militias and a number of Iraqi lawmakers pledge allegiance to Tehran and more specifically to Qassem Soleimani. The point is this: Iran is not going to stand idly by and let America and Turkey put more boots on the ground in Iraq which is why just hours after Ash Carter announced that The Pentagon is set to send in more US SpecOps, Kataib Hezbollah threatened to hunt them down and kill them. Not coincidentally, PM Haider al-Abadi rejected a larger US troop presence just moments later.
Now, Abadi has given Turkey 48 hours to get its troops out of Iraq or else.
Or else what?, you might ask. Well, or else Baghdad will appeal to the UN Security Council where Russia and China would likely support the Iraqi cause.
But that’s a little too meek of a solution for some Iraqi politicians including Hakim al-Zamili, the head of Iraq's parliamentary committee on security and defense who said on Sunday that Iraq “may soon ask Russia for direct military intervention in response to the Turkish invasion and the violation of Iraqi sovereignty.”
"Iraq has the ability to repel these forces and drive them out of Iraqi territory. We could also request Russia to intervene militarily in Iraq in response to Turkish violation of Iraqi sovereignty," he told Al-Araby al-Jadeed.
Well guess what? Hakim al-Zamili is a somebody.
He was arrested in 2007 by Iraqi and American troops while holding a high ranking office in the Health Ministry. Zamili was charged with sending millions of dollars to Shiite militants who subsequently kidnapped and killed Iraqi civilians. Sunni civilians. More specifically, the US suspected Zamili “of using his position to run a rogue unit of the Mahdi Army, the Shiite militia that claims loyalty to the cleric Moktada al-Sadr,” The New York Times reported at the time, adding that he was accused of “flooding the Health Ministry's payroll with militants, embezzling American money meant to pay for Iraq's overworked medical system and using Health Ministry 'facilities and services for sectarian kidnapping and murder.''
Here’s an interesting account from NPR ca. 2010, after parliamentary elections:
At Friday prayers yesterday in Baghdad's Sadr City slum, one man in a gray suit seemed to attract as much attention as the preachers speaking over the P.A.
After a sermon that praised both armed and political resistance to the occupation of Iraq, many from the crowd of thousands rushed up to the front to congratulate Hakim al-Zamili, who appears to have won a resounding mandate as a member of parliament from Baghdad.
Though a celebrity here in Sadr City, many Iraqis call him a war criminal. Zamili was the deputy health minister during the ramp-up to Iraq's civil war, and he's accused of turning the ministry's guards into a Shia death squad, kidnapping and killing hundreds of Sunnis. Another ministry official who denounced Zamili disappeared and is presumed dead.
After being arrested and held over a year by the Americans, an Iraqi court acquitted Zamili after a brief trial.
“If I were really involved in those crimes, the courts would have convicted me,” Zamili said.
Right.
Anyway, the point is that as we’ve been saying for months, Shiite politicians along with Iran-backed militias now control Iraq, which has essentially been reduced to a colony of Tehran.
There will be no unilateral decisions on the part of the US or Turkey to place troops in the country without pushback from Baghdad and everyone involved knows that when Baghdad pushes back, it means Iran disapproves.
As Zamili’s warning makes clear, Iraq (and thereby Iran) won’t be shy about calling in the big guns from Moscow when they feel the situation demands it - and the militas won't be shy about targeting the "invaders."
"Turkish interests in Iraq will now be a legitimate target because of Turkey's assault on Iraqi territories," Kata'ib Sayyid al-Shuhada, one of the Shia militias of the Popular Mobilisation said in a statement. Similarly, Harakat al-Nujaba called Turkey "a terrorist state." You're reminded that these groups have a reputation for fearing no one other that Khamenei himself. Not the US, not Turkey, not ISIS, no one:
We close with what Zamili said after the establishment of the Baghdad-based joint intelligence cell comprising officials from Iran, Russia, Syria, and Iraq:
“The idea is to formalize the relationship with Iran, Russia and Syria. We wanted a full-blown military alliance.”
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Bonus color from ISW:
The recent deployment into northern Iraq differs from past deployments in three ways. First, Turkey does not appear to have undertaken the action in order to contain the PKK directly, as there is no significant PKK activity in or around Bashiqa. The base is also located too far from other priority territory for the PKK, including Sinjar west of Mosul, to be used as an effective staging point for future operations against the PKK. Second, the Turkish battalion, deployed to an area within the Disputed Internal Boundaries (DIBs) – areas that have substantial Kurdish populations but remain outside of Iraqi Kurdistan. Turkey likely intends to support Barzani and the KDP in securing control over the DIBs while also positioning its own forces to better influence what forces participate in the future operation to recapture Mosul, formerly an ethnically diverse city including Arabs, Kurds, and Turkmen. Third, the Turkish deployment came only four days after Defense Secretary Ashton Carter announced that additional U.S. Special Operations Forces (SOF) would deploy to Iraq to conduct raids and intelligence-gathering in Iraq and Syria, an announcement that generated denunciations from the Shi’a political parties and threats of no-confidence votes against the Prime Minister, forcing PM Abadi to reject publicly the presence of foreign ground troops in Iraq. The Turkish troops thus deployed at a particularly sensitive time.
Turkey also maintains close connections with key players in northern Iraq. Turkey has cooperated with Kurdistan Regional President Masoud Barzani since 2013, particularly over crude oil exports through the Kirkuk-Ceyhan pipeline. Barzani and Turkey share a mutual distrust of the PKK, and the KDP currently competes with the PKK for control over Sinjar district. Turkey also possesses close relations with former Ninewa Province governor Atheel al-Nujaifi, who maintains a camp of former local police and Arab fighters in Bashiqa called the “National Mobilization.” Turkish support was essential for Atheel al-Nujaifi’s elevation to the Ninewa governorship in 2009. Finally, Turkey has close relations Osama al-Nujaifi, Atheel’s brother and the leader of the Sunni Etihad bloc in the Council of Representatives (CoR). Turkey will likely leverage these connections in order to secure greater control over what armed and political actors participate in operations to recapture Mosul. In particular, Turkey will likely support the Nujaifis over Sunni Arabs with whom Turkey has not cultivated relations.
Turkey’s deployment of troops sparked strong rejection from the full spectrum of Iraqi political actors. Iraqi Prime Minister Haidar al-Abadi and Iraqi President Fuad Masoum strongly condemned the deployment as a violation of Iraqi sovereignty and demanded that Turkey conduct an immediate withdrawal. All major Shi’a parties denounced the deployment as a violation of Iraqi sovereignty, with a leading Sadrist official calling for Iraqi airstrikes on the Turkish force if it did not depart the country. Another pro-Maliki CoR member suggesting that “a Russian force” could intervene to expel the Turkish battalion.
The U.S. will not likely press Turkey on the issue, as anonymous U.S. defense sources merely indicated that the U.S. was "aware" of Turkey’s intentions. Iranian proxy militias, however, could challenge Turkey elsewhere in the country. Iran likely ordered Iranian proxy militias to kidnap 18 Turkish construction workers on September 2 in order to pressure Turkey into ordering Turkish-backed rebels to cooperate with a ceasefire around the besieged Shi’a majority towns of Fu’ah and Kifriya in northern Syria. The kidnappings provided sufficient leverage against Turkey and the kidnapped workers were released after Syrian rebels enacted a local ceasefire. Iran could pursue similar actions against Turkish assets in Baghdad or in southern Iraq.
This situation may escalate further if Iran views the deployment as threatening its vital strategic objectives in Iraq or Syria. Iran rejects any foreign forces other than their own on Iraqi soil and backs the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), Barzani’s rival in Iraqi Kurdish politics trying to contest his control over the Kurdistan regional presidency. Iranian proxies also recently sparred violently with the Peshmerga in Tuz Khurmato in eastern Salah al-Din proxies on November 12.
Shi’a parties will use the episode to pressure PM Abadi to strongly reject foreign intervention, particularly if reports that Turkey and Barzani signed an agreement to establish a permanent Turkish base in Bashiqa are correct. These calls could complicate U.S. plans to additional Special Operations Forces (SOF) to Iraq to as a “specialized expeditionary targeting force” that will conduct raids and intelligence-gathering in Iraq and Syria.
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The whole world is going to have to shake this disease off together. Then the filth will slink back into a cave and start planning anew, we of course would be vulnerable to next opportunist while recovering from this cancer. If we survive we should erect a massive edifice explaining how usery and sectarian strife is used to destroy nations and enslave peoples, these are their primary weapons.
Hey wait a minute... was there anything about banking written on the Great Pyramid? /JK
White American males are the ones who would be expected to change things cheer on Trayvon and Jameis rapists and thug ball players in the NCCA, NFL and NBA like little girl cheerleaders. This is especially true in the SE, Texas and Midwest. They worship Obola's U of Mizzou thugs.
Don't expect them to be any opposition as they cheer on white genocide and State University ball field by the hundreds of thousands. Pathetic. The Russians are serious people and they are also intelligent. They don't do sports talk or fantasy football crap.
Iran pretty much has already commandeered it. Lest be forget the US paying off the cleric al Sadr to cool his Iranian jets and keep quiet and run 1/2 of Iraq.
This is called "successful" US foreign policy.
It has been too quiet in Ukraine recently. I suspect we will soon see the Other Hand of the USSA Zionistas.
Quiet in Ukraine?
The UkroNazis have been bringing heavy weaponry to the front contra Minsk 2, have been firing every day, usually at night when the OSCE are safely out of the way filling in their expense sheets, shelling schools during school time, so yeah, pretty quiet.
http://novorossia.today/total-madness-kiev-junta-regime-bombs-school-wit...
UkroNazis attacking Donetsk airport from the village of Peski immediately to the west. 26 November
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xICpKpBNwHM
Edgar Cayce had a prediction that Russia would become the light of the world. Seems on target.
Edgar Cayce? Who is he. Link?
Lukoil, Gazprom, Bashneft, and others - all Russian oil and gas companies and they are all in Iraq. They do their work, give money and jobs to the locals, and are pretty decent people. the only trouble is they are too nice and then the locals start ripping them off.
however, they (and the Chinese) are preferred to the American oil and gas companies and service companies by the locals.
The S400 is an awesome air defense system, but what happens when one of these FSA fighters gets within 2.5 miles of it, with a clear line of site and a TOW missle in hand?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xlOFavFZDQ
That is why Russia has several thousand troops on the ground to open up a security zone around the air field. Attack helicopters and drones cover the Russian ground troops. It is possible that an attack might slip through, but I tend to believe the Russians have sensors planted and troops in place all around the air fields. But who can forget the US airfields in Vietnam that were attacked and some even overrun, destroying dozens of aircraft at a time.
Your scenario is possible. I would not rate it high up, given the defenses around the area. Still, mortar rounds have hit close, so who is to say?
Some of the stuff Tyler writes kicks the drivel served up in papers like the times and telegraph into the bin where it belongs, and this one's another example. Bootlicking ends.
Sudanese or Egyptian?
'The best defence is the attack'
Russia needs time to rebuild its army
what is Russia's real possibility to bring and support a larger army presence in Syria? The logistics? Russia's objective is to gain time and serve as a mercenary air force for Assad. They have no intentions of getting deeper on this one.
Are you a time traveller from the 20th century?
21st century asymetric warfare and other weaponery appears to be above your pay grade. No offense intended. It's surprising what one can learn by reading. And we all have a lot to learn.
Some humility is a good start, especially on a Sunday.
I think once someones' arse gets nuke then metrics will not matter much. Now talking about humility what are talking about son?! God loves you too
Educate yourself before embarrassing yourself in public would be my advice to your sort...before you get your head blown clean off. Best to know why you died instead of die for a laugh, schlemiel.
'Embarassing yourself in public'? .... 'Head blown off clen'?.... ' die for a laugh'?
Are you for real kid ?
Whatever you are having on your mom's basement must not be so heathy for you.
Obama is a grey haired old black man who the CIA let sit in the White House to give the world a diversity president. The real decissions are made deep in CIA headquarters. In fact, I am betting the US elites have a direct contact group in the CIA along with Pentagon liason, to govern foreign affairs. Obama is out of the loop. Look at him speak, his face betrays his helpless position.
It was all constructed years ago by Allen Dulles.
After JFK fired him, he did not miss a beat. He continued to run CIA.
And the CIA is the nexus from which TPTB run the USA Deep State.
I listened to that interview on Lew's channel. Very informative stuff. I need to read that book.
Obama and Aunt Esther running the US economy into the ground. United States Junkyard of America.
Sanford and Son Fred Vs Aunt Esther - YouTube
/scarc
Yep, the Constitution probably wasn't the most perfect document but it never provided for the CIA to exist. Now we are stuck with Barry the evil puppet and the mystery men behind the curtain. It's funny that people watch the CIA coup governments all over the world but somehow they thought their country would be safe from them.
They overthrew us first...lol These guys don't have loyalty to anyone either, Barry should be very leary of them as they could set him up on a moments notice if it became beneficial for them to do so.
Uncle Ben, gone to Hahvahd.
Addendum: If America were to lose its Dear Leader to a vicious redneck with a black rifle, we can pretty much know who organized that one.
I do like these pacts Russia,Iran,Syria when putting down a line for all out war. Very similar to France and Britain prior to the Germans invading Poland in WWII.
Not quite, 'GreatUncle'. The motives, means and aims are somewhat different. That is concomitant with the BIS issuing its red alert that the financial system is about to fail, like a gangster burning down the house to claim the insurance and get rid of evidence of rampant crime. Bankster crime. All wars are banker wars until...
This is what they want - a complete Sunni - Shia conflict.
The more eff'ed up it is the better.
Now Georgia and everything east is in-play for Iran as well.
The funny thing is more than half of Iraq will be ceded to Iran operationally.
If things keep escalating you will see the US removed from Iraqi air-space.
This is why the US has been selling so much to Saudi over the last year.
The USA has fallen hard and fast from its founding whereby it was to be a friend to all, trade with all, and do not get involved in foreign entanglements. Zionists love death, destruction, financial ruin - merely ramped up since the City of London got its un-Federal no-Reserve Board established in the USA, 1913, by blackmailing a President for his indiscreet sexual affair, and pushing through the vote in Congress during a near empty house on a Christmas.
Zionists: filth.
Russia, Kicking Ass and Taking Names! NATO, chasing their tail around in a circle and spending Trillions. Weird...
Russia has allies on the ground both in Syria and Iraq through Iran.
Who are the US allies on the ground in both countries? Maybe the moderate trainees who went to ISIS after the training program.
US polices in the middle east are disaster anyway you look at it.
American diplomats in Iraq are shit scared. especially since the green zone has been opened up to local traffic.
For fuck's sake, stop fretting and start bombing, already. I think between Russia, Iraq, Iran, Syria and (hopefully) China, they got it pretty well covered.
It's REAL interesting seeing China very quiet on the side lines. US gets embroiled again in the ME China might just grab Taiwan
Would that be bullish for stocks?
Do I really need sarc tags?
Well spotted. China is Messrs Rothschild of the City of London's new best friend, recently upgraded in the SDR above GBP.
China's rulers are the new bitch on the block for the Internationale, globalists, communists: homocidal, war profiteers everywhere. They will betray Russia, the Middle East, Europe, Africa, Britain, Scandinavia, the Americas...the whole world.
But first of all, they will betray the Chinese people above all else.
Australia is lost, sadly. It is totally dependent on China trade, and the City of London puppet masters.
Well, the Aussies will still have some nice beaches... better than Somalia!
China had better think about re-enforcing Ukraine and Syria before they go after Taiwan. If they knock out ZATO, Taiwan will fall like a ripened apple.
The Russians need manpower. THey have the Tech. the PRC has the Soldiers.
lakecity,
But there's a bigger problem. The Chinese hierarchy bows down to the Rothschild led City of London, and its zionism; its delusion of world conquest.
Russia is an Orthodox Christian country which knows the slaughterhouse of the two-faced international financiers, their Bolsheviks, their zionism; disloyal to every land.
China cannot be trusted under current circumstances, imo. And I am sorry for the ordinary, industrious Chinese and their ancestry; a fine civilisation before the commies and international financiers wrecked it.
Then Russia may have to go alone except with Iran.
I did not know the tentacles were as deep in China...
Russian resistance to the Red Shield goes back to the Czars; the Romanovs died for opposing the Red Shield!
So it will be. Northern people and good people everywhere vs the money monsters.
that's not my understanding - I think the Chinese know that the goal is to eventually make them vassals. That said, I agree they are not to be trusted. They should be sending troops, at invitation of Syria, into Syria.
They yet may.
The Chinese hierarchy were paid off with entry to the BIS SDR at a rate higher than GBP, the world's oldest pair with the USD, otherwise known as Cable.
The Chinese people know how it is to survive their 'leaders'.
"China cannot be trusted under current circumstances"
Most accurate assessment.
Russian cruise missiles fired from the Caspian Sea should easily be able to reach Bashiqa.
They could also hit the Incirlik air base, haha.
The could but I don't think the Russians would go so far as hit within Turkish borders.
The Charge Of The Light Brigade
http://youtu.be/ZGw5DKX6U6w
And this, FranSix:
Rudyard Kipling's Tommy:
http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/tommy.html
Kipling was jingoistic before his son died in battle, and then he came to know how plain soldiers are mere cannon fodder for the international financiers and their pet politicians.
The world was advancing toward a better place, slowly. And then the international financiers asserted their hateful grip once again, with their paid pet politicians in tow.
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." (Mark Twain)
Reports of #US led coalition airstrikes on #Syrian army positions (#SAA) in Ayash & Mahumeedah in #DeirEzzor
I can't confirm this. But Twitter just light up with reports the US hit Syrian Arab Army positions with airstrikes, and ISIS followed up with a ground attack. SAA has dead troops. So far only twitter, lets hope this is wrong/
Russia will have to fire up the S300/400.
US planes may soon start falling.
That bastard is going to get on teevee at 2000 hrs est and announce he has ordered masive air strikes against the SAA.
"To protect the "legitimate opponents of Assad."
Honest people defy Daesh. It is high treason for any U.S. government to assist it. That is aiding the enemy in wartime.
Keep well, lakecity55.
there's no real doubt that the daesh is a us/israeli proxy and various reports have noted coordinated attacks in the past. Awaiting confirmation but this is easy to believe.
Following the US-led airstrikes on Ayash military base in Deir ez-Ezzor, it has been confirmed that 1 Syrian Arab Army soldier has been killed with reports circulating that as many as 4 were killed, 13 wounded and 2 tanks destroyed.
It has been confirmed that ISIS immediately attacked Ayash military base immediately following the airstrikes.
The Syrian Arab Army have been in control of the Ayash military base for the entirety of the war, questioning American intelligence whether this was a deliberate attack.
Keep following Al-Masdar News and its reporters on twitter as events unfold in Deir ez-Ezzor:
https://twitter.com/TheArabSource
The US enabled Turkey to shootdown the Russian Su-24 and now it clearly and unambiguosly enabled ISIS to attack Syrian government positions.
Well done, USAF, you are now officially ISISAF.
My father was one of the youngest Serjeants in the USAF, working for intel, perhaps the youngest ever, say some.
Am I angry at the current State of affairs?
More than angry. I am ready. He used to say: 'Don't get angry. Get ready.'
He was always promoted in every other place.
Keep the Constitution. Keep the guns. Defy Daesh, and the moneychangers in any land.
Maybe this is why Obama was nervous tonight.
Where are the Russians? Where is the S-400s and Su 29s? This is bullshit if it is true.
Yup you can't have too much security in your own back yard.
call me careful but every night i remove the large bread knives from the dispenser on the kitchen window sill.
If some opportunist thief broke into my house and hacked me to death with my own knife . . . . . i'd be furious with myself.
No Prisoners, Vlad.
We just removed all silverware and replaced are cupboards with a plastic utensils. You have to create a safe zone in your house.
/LOL
Why do you keep your knives on a window sill?
To dry out the cutlery after washing , naturliche!
Good.
Somehow I'm not convinced Turkey will really withdraw. We'll see.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/12/06/440604/Turkey-Iraq-troops-mosul-...
Too late. I see burnt Turkey on the menu, one way or another.
God forgives. Mere humans remember...
#Russian Air Force launshes Intensive Sorties over #Deir_Ezour
Just keep getting worse.
DELIBERATED & COORDINATED ATTACK FROM #USAF & #ISIS: SAA losses of 4 KIA, 13 WIA & 2 MBT by USAF & IMMEDIATE #ISIS Ayash base storming !
Are they trying to secure the South East path to Raqqa I wonder?
Moscow still hasn't a proper official stance on the Turkish invasion.
RT is also not blowing it up as they should. Could be a sign that the machine is at full gear in prep mode before Russia makes its move.
A Syrian government source confirmed that the airstrike had taken place and that there had been casualties. The source also added that vehicles had been destroyed.
A total of four Syrian Army soldiers have been killed, while a further 16 were injured, a government source told RIA Novosti.
Back in olden times, Iraq and Iran were the same place, before those silly drunk Brits took a ruler and a magic marker to the maps.
By far the most failed president in US history just got another eviction notice.
Iraq has massive undeveloped oil resources--The Saudi Royal headchoppers are shittin' kittens.
Just sayin'.
Isn't the same true about India and Pakistan?
All the english peeps should be lobotomized as soon as possible
They were the first to fuck up things.
Originally, Iraq= Babylon, and Iran = Persia.
Middle East = a bag of crazy cats being pulled by a crazy donkey being ridden by a crazy blind Arab.
It's ALL coming to a head rather quickly. The next WAR will not determine who wins but rather who survives.
The heads of the cartel are fighting. Don't worry, you'll survive. Sit back and laugh. Watch the imbeciles wack each other off.
How right you are, Atomizer.
Negotiations begin in earnest.
Tel Aviv in the firing line, and the BIS.
Saudi is the problem. A red step child in a Halloween mask.
You got that right, Atomizer. The House of Saud is the creation of the Red Shield, the fake jews; the moneychangers of no fixed abode or loyalty who backed Herzl and the 1st Zionist Congress which decreed that one cow in Palestine was worth all the jews in Europe. Filth.
We will be treated to quite a Halloween mask tonight at 20:00 EST.
I am not afraid, and I hope you and yours are not. Hang on a second. I know you're not :-D
Looks like Russian mistake hit SAA. So World War III is off!
Even more amazingly, the Russian bombed the Syrian positions even before they had taken off from Latakia. Fiendish.
Solution, have Mohammed, Jesus and Obama have a beer summit and share a big hug.
Better yet: end zionism and its subservient role for the market rigging City of London international financiers.
Get off your knees, boy.
Escalation, ain't just a happy Eskimo on a brand new snowmobile
US bombs syrian army base. ISIS immediately mops up. wtf!?
http://off-guardian.org/2015/12/06/breaking-us-airstrike-on-syrian-army-...
CAN ANYONE CONFIRM!!???
And the day before that, the Israeli Air Force destroyed a convoy of 4 Syrian trucks hauling ballistic missiles on the road to Damascus (New Testament symbolism is mine).... the Times of Israel.
I looked for confirmation about that too. NADA
Your p-gandar (propaganda radar) ist kaput.
The story is still up on Sputnik and Guardian, but no one else, including RT and Tass seemed to have touched it.
While it's not 100% sure yet, there's an excellent chance both of these air assaults will join Teddy's orange peels at the bottom of the drink.
just as I envisioned here two weeks ago, Putin may start arming Iraqi Kurds now to finish ISIS now and weaken Turkey later. now Iraqis themselves ask him for it. This guy is just born under the lucky star.
The War EXPANDS.
And if the Russians go into Iraq - the Saudis will go ballistic.
And so will NATO.
This thing is gonna keep pumping up .. until there is a lot of bloodshed.
Imagine the Canucks sending troops into North Dakota to support Canadien leaders who were stealing US Oil....
There are no Tim Hortons here, so the Canadians won't invade.
8 December is the day Biden gives his orders to the Ukraine Parliament - the day that the UkroNazis make their big push against Novorossia.
'we didn't start the fire,
it was always burning,
since the world's been turning . . .
This message was sent to nearly 10,000 fellow Church Pastors here in America yesterday related to this issue. Please read and share: http://eepurl.com/bIIXnj
"There was a time you wielded power....now you grovel to men with evil intentions like Donald Trump so you can curry favor. The only favor you curry is with oblivion and calamity"!
This part not True. Ruins the entire script.
Trump is a nazionist who bows down to Israel first which is why that thug Sheldon Adelson who claims to have bought Bibi his Likud election tweets that only Trump can save Israel.
You've been had.
Why am I not surprised. At a time when Americans are disgusted with career politicians, he has a credible schtick coming across as an outsider.
A good rule to keep in mind: No 'outsider' EVER makes it to the centre of power in Jewmerica.
In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Ur analysis is incomplete. We don't know if DT is an uber zionist. zionist lite at least. But 1) this is not the only aspect of DT, 2) ur concern might be overstated, and 3) right now, in practical terms, what is the alternative option? That would be HC, would it not? DT at least has a degree of unpredictability concerning the zio issue, but we know for sure where the bitch stands. Setting aside all the cynicism, rigged elections, USA corp, and so on, the only way to keep HC out of the WH is to vote for DT. An unfortunate political compromise? Perhaps. But what presidential election had none? Rooting out the zionist menace won't happen overnight. The good news is lots of establishment jews are scared to death of DT, which is a positive indicator. .... fwiw
Amen, brother/sister, 'TheReverend',
Christian Americans must stop believing the lies of war profiteers, and their bribed, blackmailed political pets. So must people of other faiths or none at all.
All God's children must seek the light of learning. This, I pray.
'Dare to know.' (Erasmus).
We must open our eyes. See the facts. 'Let there be light.' Whichever way it reveals the corrupt, and shines on the facts.
Bring St Michael the Archangel of honest people in every land, and true faith; true humanity for all, not just the monied ones.
Video of possible use of RuAF bunker busters against underground ISIS weapons dumps
http://www.onetv.cz/detail/smrt-prisla-necekane-stacilo-par-vterin-a-z-t...
We are so screwed. We armed both sides of this conflict. Now the only friend we have left is the Kurds. We have screwed them so many times (please look it up) that they are likely to rush into Russia's arms if it promises them independence and border security in return for land now belonging to Iran, Iraq, and Syria. Turkey loses no land. That will be Putin's bargain with NATO. Turkish Kurds will cleanse themselves voluntarily right out of Turkey and it's a win win. ISIS is surrounded and either moves to Turkey en masse or is destroyed. I'm picturing a few hundred thousand new "Syrian" refugees. Vet this. Russia will guarantee cordial relationships between Kurdistan and its neighbors. Where is the U.S.?
Maybe so. That scenario lines up completely with Joel Richardson's prediction published in 2004 in the book 'the Islamic AntiChrist', in which he correctly predicted the rise of a Caliphate which would eventually be headquartered in Turkey.
Beware the Lamb!!!
Hey, You Guy's...THEY'RE YOUR ENEMIES!! Please, quit telling the ENEMY of your intentions!!
BOMB AWAY
Iraq strikes back... Little fuzzy on the facts, but what the US did to the Kurds in Iraq One was pretty shitty. Think they were left to the slaughter. Might the cradle of civilization become Kurdistan? I rather like that. Payback time.
Can't help but think of Sam Jackson shouting "Say 'Democracy' again!"
On a street level, the US can't punk every country without someone pulling card and pushing back. This USA is the greatest achievement of human governance and is being destroyed from inside by terrorists, communists, liberal shit-eating payees, zionists, NGO's and a guy born in Kenya. What the US civilian gets is the government they deserve.
That government is a drug pushing organized crime syndicate. Murderers. Money launderers. Pimps. Thieves and Liars. Ministry called it a long time ago.
Turkey reminds me of the little kid that constantly provokes but no one fuks with because of his big brother.
Eventually someone won't care. Like another little kid with a big brother.
Good luck with that but ah, Turkey would crush Russia right now and Putin knows it, or should know it. Putin playing tough but he aint stupid when it comes to fucking with Turkey.
Someone's a little confused. Exactly how would Turkey "crush" Russia?
>Iraqis generally believe the US is in bed with Islamic State
Um, whaddaya mean "Iraqis", you mean the Shia rump in Baghdad run by Iran?
The Sunni Iraqis believe the same thing, but they'd be all for it, mostly.
I dunno who's doing what to whom in northern Iraq, but I think Russia and Putin are going to want to finish up in Syria before moving into Iraq, and good luck with that.
Finally somebody gets it right! It is absurd to speak of "Iraq" as if it were a sovereign country. It's not a minor point. Occupied, plundered Iraq, the object of contention among so many thieves, foremost the U.S. and Iran, is a major danger to world peace. If the world must pay WW III as the price of its callous disregard for the suffering of the Iraqi people, only one thing will be able to be said: what goes around comes around.
I apologize for the confusion, it was hard to pin this story down. Now Russian sources confirm. READ!
For the first time since the U.S. President Barack Obama announced an aerial campaign against the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham (ISIS) in Syria, the Anti-ISIS Coalition of predominately Arab states have struck a Syrian Arab Army (SAA) camp in the Syrian province of Deir Ezzor, killing 1 soldier and wounding half dozen others on Sunday evening.According to a military source from the Syrian Arab Army’s 104th Airborne Brigade of the Republican Guard, a U.S. warplane struck the military camp belonging to the SAA’s 137th Artillery Brigade (17th Reserve Division) in the village of ‘Ayyash, killing 1 soldier instantly and leaving 6 soldiers in critical condition – including an officer.
The Syrian Arab Army’s 137th Brigade has been protecting the civilians in the village of ‘Ayyash from the swarming ISIS fighters that are attempting to break into the provincial capital of the Deir Ezzor Governorate from the northern flank; this airstrike only boosted ISIS’ positions inside this village and the nearby broadcast tower.
Looks like the US is trying to provoke Russian into shooting down one of its planes. Thinking out loud about what I would do if I was Putin. I would supply the SAA with S300s. Maybe they are doing that now, but it takes more time and training.
Shoot the fucking thing down .Dont they have ground to air missleS ?
Until your post I only saw this story in Sputnik and The Guardian. Now you say it has been confirmed by a military source from the Syrian Arab Army’s 104th Airborne Brigade of the Republican Guard.
It may be true. But it still is not reported in Tass or RT. Also it does not appear in the NYT, the WaPo, or the London Independent.
If the story is not taken up tomorrow, it must have been planted by the Russians to justify an upcoming operation.
Maybe it's Russian reverse logic: it cancels out yesterday's propaganda in The Times of Israel, who reported an attack on a Syrian convoy transporting ballistic missiles that doesn't seem to have happened.
The Russian twist is not that the Turks or Americans were hit, but that the Syrians were.
On the other hand, you may be right. As you usually are.
The Shi’ite militia, Kataib Hezbollah, that is backed by Iran released a statement promising to retaliate against the Turkish incursion that is violating Iraqi sovereignty.
In the last 24 hours, Turkey has stated it will deploy up to 2000 troops in Iraq, up from a few hundred. They claim they were legally asked by the Kurdish Regional Government to help in the fight against ISIS. Baghdad claims they are the only sole legitimate government in Iraq. 24 hours left. Yet Turkey vows to send in 2,000 more troops! Turkey is not going to stop.
Iraq has a small air-force of its own. And Russia will help with spare parts for the elderly aircraft if needed.
The Iraq air-force should be bombing the Turkish base near Mosul. Not calling on some outside party to do it. Not at least until/unless Turkey fights back that is.
Jack, in case you missed it/were interested - Grant Smith on Pollard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g0Pgdua_NU
media sure got quiet on him, huh?
Anyone who reads the both financial and geopolitical articles on ZH must know that the pieces are all just being put in place for WWIII.
Global debt is unsustainable, and the US government debt is the worst.
War is necessary to provide the pretext to press the giant debt reset button. The US has been trying hard to get Russia to start it, first in Ukraine and now Syria/Turkey. No matter, there will always be the tried and true false flag.
Obama is coming for America's weapons, not because of the mass shootings. TPTB know when the public finds out their Social Security funds were simply expropriated by government, the public will be coming for them.
Had to burn the nation state to save the nation state.
I can't see that Russia will assist Iraq in the same manner that
Russia supports Syria. Russia has had a very long-standing relationship
as well as an important strategic alliance with Syria,
Far more likely is that Iran will increase its full support of Iraq,
bearing in mind the strong Shia links between Iran and Iraq.
Note: as a reminder of the Shia element in Iraq, last week
some 26 MILLION Shia (yes, 26 MILLION people)
converged on the city of Kerbala peacefully and in total
harmoney with each other for the annual Arbaeen pilgramage
despite the curreint ISIS situation in Iraq
Abaeen is consistently one of the largestand most peaceful
gatherings. throughout history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSFM66ujHGE
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7ad_1449083383
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arba%27een
Why didn't Iraq just ask the US for support, they are willing to go to war to defend nation's sovereignty in the South China Seas. Won't they do the same for you?
Iraq may have already asked Russia to bomb the fuckers. If Russia says yes the Iraqi will then formally ask - for the benefit of the media.
Read the future :
Russia hoped to liberate Syria from western terrorists ISIS
When the end is near, all parties invade Syria, reason has been created
West & Russia pound Syria , ISIS is exterminated
West now demands bifurcation of Syria (as in Germany post WW2)
West demands oil rich east & oil free west to Assad regime
(with east syria with West , read Turkey, imagine the possibilities)
Situation unacceptable to Russia
West & Russia go to war
First in middle east , there is nuclear war
Then..........
From Moon over Alabama:
Erdogan moves to annex Mosul, Iraq.
http://www.moonofalabama.org/
If this is true then Iran, Iraq, Hezbollah and Russia need to step up their game.
Iran calls many of the shots in Iraq. They need to eject the Turks as fast as possible and Russia should try to help out Iraq.
Turkey (NATO), Syria, Iraq, Russia and USA = start of WW3
Turkey needs to be kicked out of NATO as they have a civil war in their country, with the Kurds. If NATO cannot apply their rules, that is concerning because it makes them liars, cheats, and opportunists.
There are acutally two Turkeys in play here. Turkey and the US.
The Turkish invasion of Cyprus was also to be temporary - 1974 is when it occured and the fucking Turks are still there. It is the land that time forgot. Abandoned homes and car dealerships with dinner plates on the table and new cars in the show room - all frozen in time.
Iraq needs to act quickly to repel these invaders. I agree the Russians will bring in Iranian fighters for this while providing weapons and arms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_invasion_of_Cyprus
TURKEY IS DAESH/ISIS/ISIL....in short, barbaric assholes. Recep is the regime to change.
The West will still obey their president Natanyahu until the Allahu-Arbars in Pakistan joins the ISIL . By which time it will be to late to stop the sun from showing up over their fucking heads , if only for a split second.
Let me get this straight.
Turkey has sent a force over it's border with Iraq and is establishing a fortified position on Iraq's sovereign territory. Iraq has asked Turkey to withdraw its men and armor from it's land, which Turkey has refused to do.
Iraq is going to bring this to the attention of the UNSC if Turkey fails to leave.
This reminds me of a similar situation that happened last year not too far away. I can't think of the name right now, but "puke brain" rings a bell.
Turks in Iraqi ground space? Shoot them up!
Russia runs the risk getting sucked further into the conflict. Nevertheless, there is an issue. If the Russiand along with the Iraqies would engage the Turks on Iraqi soil then Turkey cannot envoke NATO's art. 5. If they would no European country will come to help them. Erdogan has made so many enemies in Europe right now they will drop him the moment they can.
I hope you are right. Leading politicians in Europe however are backing NATO's aggressive stance and most of the citizens did not yet understand what is going on.
Well, Europe is weak and easy to divide. We still look for America to protect us. But America is endangering us with its reckless conflicts in the ME and its proxy wars with Russia (that we after all share a continent with). But European countries really as pissed off by Erdogan's blackmail. I think the citizens are waking up. Turkey's behaviour has been quite an eye opener. That is also due to the fact that Europeans due to the immigration flows of the past are not too fond of Turks. People are becoming aware that countries such as Turkey, SA and Qatar are supporting IS. All around Europe you now see the far right rising. I am not particularly fond of these parties but their rise is because of the bad policies of the left and moderate right.
On the long run the smuggled oil is of little economic relevance to Turkey. The quantities that are currently purchased give income to ISIS (DAESH), that it is. Turkey however is obviously interested to occupy a part of northern Iraq including its oil wells. The additional territory could also be used for a gas pipeline from Qatar to Turkey. Instead of an indpendent state run by the Kurds the administration of Turkey wants to expand it's own territory to the south. There it is again: NATO serves as an umbrella to aggressively expand territory (for the EU to grasp the Ukraine and for Turkey to grasp northern Iraq). The NATO is confronted in this latest move by opposition vom Iraq, Russia, Syria and Iran which might also expect some backing from China. This is a very dangerous path and this path to war is not endorsed by the population of Europe.
The Turks have slaughtered thousands of Assyrians in past centuries in lands now called Iraq. Fucking Turks have been at it for millenia. I hope Putin and the Ayatollah bring out the whoopin' sticks.
They should shoot the 100 special muslim sympathizers that congress put into Iraq.
Claim it to be to protect the sovereignty of Iraq.
Shit's been getting real & plenty of it is being flung... More to come:
Yemeni invasion of Saudi Arabia cuts off two southern cities
US sets up secret airbase inside Syria
Marine Le Pen – Britain leaving the EU will be like the fall of the Berlin Wall
Israel is a betrayal of Judaeism, and of humanity.Interviewed by The (UK) Sunday Times, Assad Blasts Illegal Western Intervention in Syria
Bacteria Resistant to ALL Drugs Shows up in DenmarkREVEALED: A Russian-Made Electric Submarine 'Killed' a US Nuclear Sub
Lets not forget the flesh eating bactaria thats sweeping through Syria courtesy of ISIS...
Putin, you're a lying faggot.
If you really meant business, you would stop selling oil for dollars IMMEDIATELY.
That you don't,
PROVES
that you're a lackey of the American, European and Jewish bankers.
The more power to them.
You other Iraqis and Syrians,
The Russians who are ultimately partners of the West,
will not help you attain better lives.
By the way,
You're all a bunch of animals bent on violence and perceived self interest
just
like
The Americans.
The Patriot's Dream:
The United States of Masestro Maestro
I humbly refuse to be the philosopher king du jour.
And the plot thickens
http://off-guardian.org/2015/12/06/breaking-us-airstrike-on-syrian-army-...
@ 5am Pacific from the Washington Post
army position and killing three soldiers in an airstrike overnight Sunday, the first such allegation of its kind since the United States launched an air campaign against the Islamic State in Syria 14 months ago.
The U.S. military swiftly denied that coalition warplanes were operating in the area at the time, but the allegation nonetheless sent tensions soaring in Syria’s crowded skies.
U.S. warplanes did conduct strikes in the eastern province of Deir al-Zour overnight, but the targets were 55 kilometers (34 miles) from the location that the Syrian government said was hit, according to Col. Steve Warren, the U.S. military spokesman for the campaign.
The Russian air force also carried out strikes in the province of Deir al-Zour overnight Sunday, Warren said, speaking from Baghdad. But he said but he did not know whether the Russians may have been responsible for the attack that allegedly struck the Syrian army position.
At the same time, the Syrian opposition charged that an air raid carried out by Syrian government forces struck civilians in the Sukkari neighborhood of Syria's northern city of Aleppo.
The Syrian government’s accusation illustrated the danger that misunderstandings or misinformation could trigger a wider conflict as Russia and the United States lead separate, rival air campaigns to combat the threat posed by the Islamic State.
And now the game of control of the skies over Syria begins with this claim that the US bombed the Syrian army position .
You may begin microwaving the popcorn.
Russia can't hit ISIS. They CAN hit Iranian Generals and Syrian troops...
Meanwhile, the US gets Jihady John and has a kill order directly on al-Baghdadi. We will get that douche -- just ask Osama...
When the US or coalition partner kills al-Baghdadi, what is Putin going to say? So very embarassing...
A Syrian government source confirmed that the airstrike had taken place and that there had been casualties. The source also added that vehicles had been destroyed.
A total of four Syrian Army soldiers have been killed, while a further 16 were injured, a government source told RIA Novosti.
RT.com are reporting this bombing this morning.
According to a Syrian spokesman, a complaint has been sent to the UN but no response is expected.
7 December 2015, by Daren Butler and Isabel Coles - Istanbul/Erbil (Reuters)
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-turkey-idUSKBN0TQ0SS20151207
This so awesome!
So now, it looks like the Iraqis are telling everybody how it is gonna go down -- as they "may soon ask Russia for direct military intervention". In other words Russian soldiers getting killed for Iraq. sure, Let the Iraqis drag the Russians further into the quagmire.
Once again, Putin "the chess player" in way over his head. Couldn't make this shit up if I tried...
You are truly clueless mate.