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President Obama Explains Why Taking Away Americans' Guns Will Make Them All Safer - Live Feed
The best gun salesman in America is about to explain how he - and his administration alone - will 'fix' the new un-normal rash of mass shootings, terrorist-attacks, murders, and general civil disorder by continuing down the path of stricter, tighter, confiscation-er gun control laws. As we previewed earlier President Obama wasted no time to launch this impromptu address to the nation at 8:00 pm on the "threat of terrorism and keeping the American people safe." Administration staff confirmed that the president will specifically call on Congress to review certain gun control measures.
Translation: another surge in gun sales is imminent as fears of gun confiscation rise to unprecedented heights.
So, what will Obama say? In an appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press," Attorney General Loretta Lynch gave advance hints about the remarks President Barack Obama will make when he speaks to the country Sunday evening about the recent terrorist attack in San Bernardino.
"What you're going to hear from him is a discussion about what government is doing to ensure all of our highest priority - the protection of the American people," the attorney general said.
Lynch's staff later confirmed that the president will specifically call on Congress to review certain gun control measures.
And since Congress has long ago given up on taking action in a world in which the Fed's Chairman/woman is expected to "get to work", it will again be up to an Obama executive order to restore peace to the land by continuing his crusade against the Second amendment.
In short, the latest steps in Obama's crusade to disarm the US and make even legal purchases of guns as difficult as possible, even though limiting the legal means of purchasing guns will have absolutely no impact on gun violence in the US - for the perpetual case study, see Chicago. That, however, does not mean that Obama won't try or succeed... and tonight's speech is likely to be a strawman of what his executive order will look like.
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President Obama is due to speak at 8pm ET (as a perfect prelude to Sunday Night Football)...
Just a few things to note:
Dangerous, Phony 'Gun-Control'-Logic Strikes Again
There's No Correlation Between Gun Ownership, Mass Shootings, & Murder Rates
Gun Control: Fashionable Prohibition For Modern Lawmakers
And finally, as Free Beacon previously noted:
Gun rights activists have pointed to Democrats’ calls for new gun control measures as one reason why gun sales have increased. Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton has said that the Supreme Court is wrong on the Second Amendment, that Australian style mandatory gun buybacks should be considered in the United States, and that she would implement new gun control through executive action.
“Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton are the best gun salespeople on the planet. The more they scream for new gun control laws the more guns walk off the shelves at gun stores,” said Alan Gottlieb, the head of the Second Amendment Foundation. “To quote the lyrics of Peter, Paul and Mary, ‘When will they ever learn, when will they ever learn.’”
The biggest irony, however, as we reported previously, is that "homicide rates have been cut in half over past 20 years as new gun ownership soared."
So thanks Obama: courtesy of your inept approach to resolving every social issue not to mention your naive, recurring attempts to uproot the Second Amendment, you are making the US safer one teleprompted, faux-emotional speech at a time. Granted, everyone knows that was not your intention, but the public will take whatever it can.
So what changed? Why did Americans suddenly start getting more interested in guns in and around the end of 2008?
There is at least two clear winners from Obama's repeated attempts to enforce gun control are shown in the chart below...
And finally:
Here's What Happened When Venezuela Imposed Gun Control Laws
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Prince of darkness
Prince of Dumbass. Fuck the Muslatto.
Feinstein feeling wet.
Asshole.
after creating the greatest wealth divide in history, certain chosen people who rule this country repped by Feinstein and Schumer would like to make sure you don't go after them with anything more than your bare fists.
Guillotines and heads on pikes will send a better message.
We don’t have a gun control problem; we have a black control problem.
And that includes the one giving the speech.
The Truth About Gun Control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hyQDQPEsrs
The only way to stop ISIS is to end MIC ties with the Saudi's (and in general).
Naw, they can control the blacks just fine. They get them all riled up so they can scare the white man with them, nothing more.
The Muslims are just to put a different angle on their propaganda of fear. It's all really just bullshit. The thugs using other thugs to scare people into obeying.
That is literally all this is. One thug trying to push other thugs into the area to scare the Europeans into fearing the first thugs. Everyone knows who is responsible intrinsically. They just don't know what to do about it, and with that knowledge and lack of decisivness the pot gets turned up to a slow boil.
Its called divide and conquer. Ask yourself why a black president and a woman at the FED at this time in history? When monetary and govt policies fails you have someone to blame.
To elevate gun control to a spot this high on the national agenda is naive.
Consider (in no particular order):
o Trillions in debt public and private worldwide.
o A moribund economy
o Possible WW III brewing in the Mideast and the Pacific
o America's continuing "black problem"
o Fukushima and nuclear power
o Crumbling infrastructure and the "national grid".
o Militarization of America's police.
o The corruption of science and academia.
But this is all trumped by a few hundred "mass assault" deaths? And most of those incidents are clearly fake?
I'll add another bullet point:
o The real agenda behind "gun control".
Communists say the damnedest things!
it is an interesting point to make - gun control is not anywhere near the top of the list when most people are asked what their priorities are. And those who desire gun control do so a lot less fervently than those who oppose it. The other thing most people don't care about - the global warming nonsense - is the other thing he pushes hard on.
~"Administration staff confirmed that the president will specifically call on Congress to review certain gun control measures."~
Congress should do what he wants and get proactive about "gun control". They should pass a blanket "shall issue" law and mandatory reciprocity between states. That'd screw Obama good.
Nice quote, except that George Washington didn't say that.
Partially. Don't ruin a great Liberty quote with the truth.
Here's the real quote:
""A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.""
http://www.mountvernon.org/research-collections/digital-encyclopedia/art...
Obama will probably rehash the same gun control agenda that the liberals tried to exploit when President Reagan and Jim Brady were shot.
Legislation like the Brady Bill ignored the fact that violence unfortunately has been a fact of life long before firearms were invented. Outlawing guns does not prevent violence, but it does prevent smaller, older, disabled or less powerful persons from effectively defending themselves against larger and stronger attackers.
I wonder if Obama will have time to explain why the National Debt which was 10.6 Trillion dollars when he took office is now in JUST 7 YEARS an apalling 18.1 Trillion dollars! Where did the money go??? Who's going to pay it off???
FU Barry
And the God damned Troglowookie you rode in on.
I wonder if he'll propose a machete-control bill too.
Bilderberg said:--
In a world of great uncertainty, THREE things are 110% certain which this debate has highlighted--
1. while gun ownership and gun sports remain a pasttime of a minority of people, polticians will see gun owners as an easy "whipping boy" whenever they're under pressure from liberals and other shallow-thinkers to JUST DO SOMETHING whenever gun-related crime makes the headlines
2. politicians use fear and bribery (i.e. using our money to buy our votes) to further their careers
3. after gun-ownership by citizens is effectively banned, liberals won't on their laurels. They will move on to the next item in their social engineering, "we-know-whats-good-for-you-because-we-are-superior-to-you" agenda. It's their missionary zeal that drives this mentality.
It's their missionary zeal that drives this mentality.
Correst. Marxism is the religion of psychopathy.
he thinks hes the muslim pope
edit to clarify to those who didnt catch the speech (i know i know.. he was actually on time) - he was speaking to the muslim people in a similar manner to which the pope speaks to the rest of the world.
Jesus. Fuck this psychopathic narcissistic asshole.
He's lying again and again and again.
the NSA has not uncovered a single terrorist plot anywhere on this planet.
We all know that.... He's taking the sheeple on a ride to hell. It's his agenda.
I dare people to rise up.
No Smoking (guns) Anywhere...welcome to being felt up and robbed by the lowest IQ/paid pieces of shit.
I suggest he calls on Muricans to prepare for ww3 cause it's coming. And he knows, he's starting it.
- A fourth military-grade Chinese runways on islets raise fears anew in #southchinasea
- #Iraq could ask Russia for help after 'invasion' by Turkish forces
- #BREAKING A number of #SAA killed after coalition airstrikes on regime-held Ayash military camp at the outskirts of #DeirEzzor.
Yeah this will end well...
The bankers will start it you mean, obama is just their gay errand boy sent to collect a bill.
Perhaps Obama can also explain why does ISIS oil go through Ceylan, a port owned by the Turkish government http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/03/isis-oil/
Wolf Blitzer foaming at the mouth...
"He's sort of a god." - Evan Thomas
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Wut?
"I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue."
Better? ;-)
Great.... from the constant war propanda during NFL games to Obozo and his fearmongering. My tv might survive tonight
The networks were raking it in from the Pentagon today.
It's merciful that the majority of the WWII Veterans are no longer alive and having to see what this country is devolving into...
...if you see something, say something!
Just don't profile ;-)
#ISeeNothing
Just don't address the elephant in the room.
#Our constitution is toilet paper.
#LetsArmWrestleForIt ;-)
Halp us Barack! Halp us!...lmao!
chill, dude, putin's on the job! ;-)
Putin's just another errand boy supporting a global IMF currency and the UN climate regulation agenda. The only job he's doing besides that is the blowjob he gives Kissinger everytime they meet for lunch.
Any more help from this bastard and we'll all be titts up.......
This President thinks the American people are stupid. I think we all know what happens when we get disarrmed by the state.
WTF?
He said the US will help Syria "close its border to Turkey"
Why?
Are bad guys sneaking through every day?
That must be awful.
Glad it isn't happening here!
He's planning on taking credit once Putin does it.
Future speech from the Won?:
"I'm announcing today, a new alliance, a new "Hope", for peace with Russia and the world. Today, together, our social welfare agencies are busy mopping up behind the Russian advancing forces to guarantee them a visa, an education, food, shelter and a new life here in the land of the semi-free.
Thank you and turn out the lights."
I can see it ;-)
The larger question is: why is US there?
Can't wait until Barry disappears in 2016 - such a foul fucking piece of communist shit.
ROT IN HELL BARRY!!!
Apparently you have not seen his potential replacements........
aww come on Tyler! where is Trumps twitter feed?
to listen to Barry and read Trumps barbs at the same time is too good to miss.
Don't have a second, backup device?
Unprepared - bad planning
If you were, you could watch Donald the Dictator on Face the Nation at the same time as Obummer. Not at once, please - no need to have brains and blood scattered about in a cranial stress explosion.
fucking Grima Wormtongue, the Droner in Chief.
THAT. IS. PERFECT.
I am just watching this to study mass murdering psychopaths and their speech patterns and feigned emotion.
What a liar
Well, at least we are exceptional again.
There is no chance in hell of passing gun control laws.
Talking with a friend, he thought there is a chance 'the liberals' want to start a rebellion, then run in the army to round up all the guns. Same as starting a civil war, of course.
I would have ruled that out, but somethng like that is end-game for the Israeli-neocons, I don't think we are there yet. OTOH, pretty clear what the combination is, gun-control for the left and Muslims on the right. Do a big false-flag of Muslims with guns, and they have all bases of propaganda covered.
Patriots, better stop hating Muslims, your rulers will use every hate against you.
People of the Status Quo, better stop believing without critical thought, your rulers will use every false belief against you.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/09/21/germanys-jewish-problem/
9/11 is their weakness and also shows how much they can make people believe what is convenient as opposed to what is true.
They will turn off the internet, turn off the power, cut all other lines of communication, blame Russia, impose Martail Law, and go door to door, giving no one a chance to organize or come to the aid of anyone else......
There's nowhere near enough manpower to do that, and local state/county cops in red states probably either won't play along or will do a really bad job at confiscation. Plus the moment it happens it'll confirm the feds are off the reservation and the states will likely mobilize against them.
I see that as a worst case, but plausible, scenario. Look what the public endured during Katrina, and the Boston Bomber mess. Rural areas will be the main problem. I think the city sheeples have been institutionalized for the most part. See something say something, Obamacare, and a multitude of other programs are designed to rat out your friends and family and I see those programs being ramped up and incentivized to achieve maximum impact and efficiency in the short term........
Wait, wut? Turn off the internet?
What about my BitCoin!?!????????
You have to turn off the internet because it is bringing the terrorists closer and closer to America every day.
Teh BitChits you save could be your own!
If we could save just one BitChit, it will have been worth it ;-)
The Texas State Republican Executive Committee voted yesterday on putting a referendum item on the March primary ballot to get a sense of the people for or against secession. The motion was defeated. It is somewhat telling that the movement made it that far. There's always next year.
you know, as much Texas history as they teach in this state, you'd think they'd have figured out by now that Texas can't secede... Texas can rebel, but it can't secede... if you think there's no difference then you're probably the slope headed mouth breathing knuckle dragging idiot that put that stupid rider in there in the first place... you want to rebel that's fine, you go on, we're right behind you ;)
Which will show humanity, in the most basic sense, hasn't progressed at all.
Best to not hate anyone, simply try to understand them and anticipate their actions. That is exactly what those who seek to lead us...to control us do. Obama does not care about Muslims, Jews, Christians or any other group, he only cares about controlling "us", and will threaten and inspire greed and corruption and division to do so. We find ourselves facing innumerable threats and it is a complete waste of time and delusional to pretend that somehow ANY OF THEM ARE IRRELEVANT. because they have been artificially inspired does not mean they are not real. Obama, PREACHING to us about OUR need for intolerance is the peak of hypocrisy. This man has been busy PISSING on everyone who stands between him and his dreams of total control.
Meanwhile, we want to admire all those who defy Obama, who show strength against him. We must face the fact that there are no heroes and no saviors. Obama is putting us all in danger, domestically and internationally.
Seemed like he was ready to flip us the bird.
'Israel’s dominant role in formulating US Middle East policy is largely a product of its success at recruiting, socializing, and motivating overseas Jews to act as an organized force to intervene in US politics and push Israel’s agenda.
What motivates American Jews, who have been raised and educated in the US, to serve Israel? After all, these are individuals who have prospered, achieved high status and occupy the highest positions of prestige and responsibility. Why would they parrot the policies of Israel and follow the dictates of Israeli leaders (a foreign regime), serving its violent colonial, racist agenda?
What binds a majority of highly educated and privileged Jews to the most rabidly right-wing Israeli regime in history – a relationship they actually celebrate?
What turns comfortable, prosperous American Jews into vindictive bullies, willing and able to blackmail, threaten, and punish any dissident voices among their Gentile and Jewish compatriots who have dared to criticize Israel?
What prevents many intelligent, liberal, and progressive Jews from openly questioning Israel’s agenda, and especially confronting the role of Zionist zealots who serve as Tel Aviv’s fifth column against the interest of the United States?
There are numerous historical and personal factors that can and should be taken into account to understand this phenomenon.
In this essay I am going to focus on one – the ideology that ‘Jews are a superior people’. The notion that Jews, either through some genetic, biologic, cultural, historical, familial and/or upbringing, have special qualities allowing them to achieve at a uniquely higher level than the ‘inferior’ non-Jews.
We will proceed by sketching the main outline of the Jewish supremacist ideology and then advance our critique.
We will conclude by evaluating the negative consequences of this ideology and propose a democratic alternative.' ....
http://dissidentvoice.org/2015/09/the-doctrine-of-superior-people/
Engler’s latest article describes a march in Toronto organized by Canada’s main Jewish organizations, who defended Israel’s recent campaign of mass murder in Gaza. They claimed they were opposing “anti-Semitism”, which they say is a variant of “racism”. Engler’s critique is to argue that, far from being against racism, the march was “little more than a group of ‘white’ people calling for the further subjugation of ‘brown’ folk.”
It’s true that Canadian Jews are pallid, and Palestinians are somewhat tanned. But Israel isn’t carrying out the genocide of the Palestinians because Jews are of lighter tint, rather because Palestinians aren’t Jewish, and happened to be located where Israel was created. If the Palestinians were blond, they could hardly expect better treatment.
Engler himself gives the evidence for this: “Approximately 93 percent of land was in the public domain, including approximately 12.5 percent owned by the NGO Jewish National Fund (JNF), whose statutes prohibit sale or lease of land to non-Jews.” (my emphasis)
From this explicit description of anti-gentile racial discrimination, he concludes “In Israel, as in Canada, Jewish/white privilege is a much greater social problem than anti-Semitism. It’s time to check that privilege.”
‘Jewish/white privilege’ is even less of a problem than anti-Semitism. Whereas the latter has almost disappeared, the former has never existed. Since white supremacy has been retreating since the battle of Gettysburg, and Jewish supremacy is as powerful as ever, the latter cannot be a subset of the former. The ADL has considerably more influence than the KKK.
If you try hard enough, you can always find white extremists expressing racialist views somewhere in North America. The supporters of Darren Wilson, the white cop who killed an unarmed black teenager in St. Louis, raised half a million dollars for his defense, some of them made offensive comments, and the anti-racist left made the most of it. Yes, there are still some prejudiced white Europeans.
But in terms of money and power, nothing comes close to Jewish supremacy. The USA sends Israel over eight million dollars per day. Every politician grovels. The secretary of state apologizes every time he mildly criticizes Israel, for example, when he said that it is in danger of becoming an apartheid state.
“Why does a demonstration of hundreds of people against ‘anti-Semitism’ in Toronto seem more like a march for white supremacy than a rally against racism?” asks Engler.
Why does it seem like that to him? Because he subscribes to the dominant trend in North American leftism – a trend which denies the importance of the Israel Lobby, which claims that support for Israel is “US imperialism”, and that white supremacy is still the most important form of racialism in the Western world. This has consequences for how we oppose it. If we defend Engler’s conception ‘Jewish/white privilege’, we imply that support for Israel benefits the white majority population of Western countries.
If, on the other hand, we believe that Jewish racial supremacy is opposed to the interests of almost everyone, we will say so. We will attempt to undermine support for Israel by arguing that it only benefits a small minority. We will not be afraid of exposing the Lobby, Jewish ownership of the media, etc.. We will argue that Palestine solidarity is not just morally right, but rational self-interest.
http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/09/does-jewishwhite-privilege-exist/
A 'Holiday' party? Who has a holiday party? Oh right, I mean Left...
Holiday Party is direct from this morning's New Jork Times.
Front Page, for all to see - this makes it the PC term of the Day.
Oh, have a very Merry Christmas to remember that the Christian religion marks this season as the Holy season, celebrating the Prince of Peace.
.....Spit the drivel, my nizzle......
words fail us all. This mothaf++ka is just an imbecilic peter pan asswipe.
Tonight we will hear an American President give one of the most un-American speeches ever delivered..........
US has dropped 20,000 bombs on Syria in an illegal war that has killed 300,000, injured over 1,000,000 and created over 4 million refugees in the Nobel Prize Winner's illegal war in Syria. Those numbers will be simply ignored by the free and fair Western media.
Another lie is that terrorists did 9/11 when it is quite clear it was an inside job.
If the Nobel Prize Winner ever speaks the truth, it is by mistake.
Anyone who has examined the 9/11 event closely knows that it was an inside job. Your own government is terrorizing you all the time, but that is what happens in a fascist, police state. Fear is the key to control the populace. Hence the eternal war on terror as terror can never surrender:
Ex-Italian President: Intel Agencies Know 9/11 An Inside Job
Man who blew the whistle on Gladio tells Italy's largest newspaper attacks were run by CIA, Mossad
Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, Francesco Cossiga, has gone public on 9/11, telling Italy’s most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.
Cossiga was elected President of Italian Senate in July 1983 before being winning a landslide 1985 election to become President of the country in 1985.
Cossiga gained respect from opposition parties as one of a rare breed – an honest politician – and led the country for seven years until April 1992.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ex-italian-president-intel-agencies-know-9-...
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
H. L. Mencken
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has published an article demonstrating that the US government and President Barack Obama knowingly lied when they claimed that the Syrian government had carried out a sarin gas attack on insurgent-held areas last August.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/12/10/pers-d10.html
Not to mention the million or so "dead" Iraqis.
And you want to take our guns?
NO FUCKING WAY.
Yes sir, he will get them, over his cold, dead fucking body...
Another lie is that terrorists did 9/11 when it is quite clear it was an inside job.
It was painfully clear the moment it happened. For a building to collapse like that, it has to be cut from below. The idea that it was cut from above reverses the law of physics.
As an engineer, it was obvious to me. Regretfully, I've gotten nowhere explaining this to lay acquaintances. The official account is more palatable.
Yes, when the roof of a building falls at the same rate as a brick released from that same height (i.e. the free fall rate) then there can be no momentum transfer between the underlying floors and vertical support beams (conservation of energy). All the kinetic energy is gained due to the loss of potential gravitational energy as it collapses without any energy dissipation due to friction between floors. But how to avoid momentum transfer? Take out first the ground floor, then the next floor etc all the way up to the roof, in sequence. Then everything can descend to earth at the gravitation free fall rate. A common way to acheive this: timed demolition. Like the "climate scientists", they hope no one understands elementary physics and will simply "believe the experts"
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
1. "Authorized the use of military forces to fight terrorists in any country where it is necessary." Paraphrasing.
O'bumbler needs a drink of Hopium.
Why is ISIS smuggling oil out of Northern IraQ>un-impeded?
american leadership????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? He uses powerful drugs.
Islamic terrorism! Say it you worthless turd! They slaughtered innocent people because it was a Christmas party!
The Koran calls for the death of all non-believers, Mullah's and Ayatollah's preach it, young Muslim men murder in the name of it in the hope of going to 72 virgins as they oppress their Women and murder each other. Fucking nuts.
Can we call a Spade a Spade? Of course not! Onward with the Kelptoligarchy! Onward with the pointless wars and M.I.C. imperialism! Forward with the droning of weddings and funerals in the Middle East! Forward with the police state! Crush freedom at home and abroad! Support the death cult Monarchy of Saudi Arabia while also supporting the death cult of I.S.I.S.!
Pretend that Russia is our enemy, and Europe our friend! More bombs, more bullets, more banks!
Get back to work serfs! All hail Caesar!
Nothing creates ore chaos than speaking from both sides of your mouth at once. Militarize cops and then publicly complain about their abusive tactics. Bomb peaceful Muslims and then act shocked when radicalized ones attack us, always pretending its workplace violence, then berating anyone who points out the obvious. Complain endlessly about gun sales and gun violence when numbers supporting gun violence show no such correlation, while knowingly precipitating record gun sales. He will point out these increased sales without making the obvious connection to HIM while presenting them as a false threat.
When one refers to "islamic terrorists" one is actually referring to those who take the Koran seriously in all its directives. One would have to ignore certain portions of the Koran to be a truly peaceful Moslem. So the real radical Moslems are those who truly wish to live in harmony with those of other religions.
Why is a podium is the Oval Office? I thought these speeches had the president sitting at his desk.
He hates what the office and the desk stand for
He's actually on Tosh.0 right now.
The telepromter has only one height.
hemorrhoids
Prostate
Too many rectocranial inversions ;-[
Maybe he had something up his behind and couldn't sit.
I can't look at these presidents. Democrat or republican, I know everything they do is to destroy America, Americans and the dollar so they can make money.
Try and take mine..... and see what the fuck happens to you!
why is shitknuckle smiling... he's fucking smiling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
muslims dittin do nuffins
I REJECT OBAMA !!!!!!
He is not MY president, I did not, nor would I ever have voted for this limp wristed Fagtoid.
Calling all brown, black, gay Ocornholio worshippers, your fearful leader is calling you!
Count how many times he says "guns" in his speech and how many times he says "Islamic terrorism".
My guess is 100 to 0 ?
"My fellow Americans" hhhha funny
I guess he knows no one is listening to his damn lying self.
great more war
Does anyone know of a way to hook up a polygraph to a TV and record it. That would be the comedy special of the decade.
can't he leave early - like next week - we would be much much better off
Come on Obungholio, unwrap your lips from that mans penis, and we will go throw some grumpy cats at the bad guys...THAT will show them!
Hey, Barry, if guns make people less safe stop walking around with 15 secret service members that are armed. Put your money where your mouth is, same with the rest of these shitheads in Congress. I'm so tired of these fucking hypocrites. You don't get to tell me I can't defend my life or the lives of those I love so go fuck yourselves.
What if a president gave an address and nobody listened? I think we are there.
So, once the authorities can take away the rights of those that they have put on watch lists (Ron Paul supporters, civil rights attorneys and their children, people who tax protest, "conspiracy theorists", "anti-muslim activists") then they effectively pick and chose who can have a gun. That's a sneaky trick.
The staged picture of his wookie and children is a nice touch.
Everyone after today goes on the no fly list and then you submitt and application to get removed from the no fly list
The cost for the application is $10000.00 or more depending on your means
Guys with poop on their man parts dont have children...
Funny story about that. Post-reconstruction, Southern governments made a point of forbidding freedmen from carrying guns to make it harder for the freedmen to settle scores with white men, rape white women, and engage in organized terrorism against whites. White militias were organized in many states to ensure the laws were enforced. They were effective for many decades.
Gun control does work as advertised if applied strictly to people who genuinely are a danger to themselves and other if allowed to carry them---feral Africans, known communists and Muslims, the criminally insane of all races and creeds.
Terror watch list - no due process to get listed.
We are all terrorists now!
I am buying a gun tomorrow - AR15 - and lots of bullets.
Let’s be clear: there is no difference between a murderer and one who enables the murderer by removing a man’s right to protect himself. We have the right to defend ourselves against both.
And where does that right come from? Our Creator.
That's why I love the 2nd. "You will not ever fuck with a man's right to protect himself."
There's lot's of graves filled with people the government failed to protect.........
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
The great danger of faking your ability to do something in the public square is that someone with an actual desire to the job you are pretending to do might come along and show you up.
This is what has just happened to the US in Syria with the entrance of Russia into the fight against ISIL.
And as is generally the case with posers caught with their pants down, the US policy elites are not happy about it.
You see, the US strategic goal in Syria is not as your faithful mainstream media servants (led by that redoubtable channeler of Neo-Con smokescreens at the NYT Michael Gordon) might have you believe to save the Syrian people from the ravages of the long-standing Assad dictatorship, but rather to heighten the level of internecine conflict in that country to the point where it will not be able to serve as a bulwark against Israeli regional hegemony for at least another generation.
How do we know? Because important protagonists in the Israelo-American policy planning elite have advertised the fact with a surprising degree of clarity in documents and public statements issued over the last several decades.
The key here is learning to listen to what our cultural training has not prepared us to hear.
In 1982, as the Likud Party (which is to say, the institutional incarnation of the Revisionist Zionist belief, first articulated by Jabotinsky in the ”Iron Wall” that the only way to deal with “the Arabs” in and around Israel was through unrelenting force and the inducement of cultural fragmentation) was consolidating its hold on the foreign policy establishment of Israel, a journalist named Oded Yinon, who had formerly worked at the Israeli Foreign Ministry, published an article in which he outlined the strategic approach his country needed to take in the coming years.
What follows are some excerpts from Israel Shahak’s English translation of that text:
“Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precedent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian Peninsula and is already following that track. The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unique areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target. Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon….”
“Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel’s targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi’ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north.”
“If Egypt falls apart, countries like Libya, Sudan, or even the more distant states will not continue to exist in their present form and will join the downfall and dissolution of Egypt.
“There is no chance that Jordan will continue to exist in its present structure for a long time, and Israel’s policy, both in war and in peace, ought to be directed at the liquidation of Jordan under the present regime and the transfer of power to the Palestinian majority.”
Yinon’s vision reappeared in the now infamous “Clean Break” document from 1996, authored by a consortium of US and Israeli “strategic thinkers” that included Richard Perle, Douglas Feith and David and Meyrav Wurmser, which was meant to serve as a foreign policy blueprint for the first administration of Benjamin Netanyahu.
The text is nothing if not obsessive regarding the need to seriously debilitate Syria’s ability to act in any way is a pole of regional influence in the in the area .
“Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq – an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right – as a means of foiling Syria’s regional ambitions.”
“Most important, it is understandable that Israel has an interest supporting diplomatically, militarily and operationally Turkey’s and Jordan’s actions against Syria, such as securing tribal alliances with Arab tribes that cross into Syrian territory and are hostile to the Syrian ruling elite.”
And as Dan Sanchez has recently shown, David Wurmser went into even greater detail about the need to balkanize Israel’s northeastern neighbor in articles published in approximately the same time period, talking quite openly in one essay about “expediting the chaotic collapse“ of Baathist Syria.
Then there is Wesley Clark’s famous interview, given in 2007, in which he revealed the true strategic aims of those running US foreign policy in the wake of the September 11th attacks. In it, he tells of a conversation he had at that time with a Pentagon official who admitted that the real plan was “to attack and destroy the governments in seven countries in five years”.
Those countries, according to Clark, were: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iraq. In the same speech, he explicitly ties the hatching of the plan to Richard Perle, head of the cadre of people who wrote in the “Clean Break” document of the paramount importance of putting Israel in position to “shape its strategic environment”.
On September 5th, 2013, Alon Pinkas, the former Israeli Consul General in New York and well-connected member of Tel Aviv’s conservative policy elite described the Syrian conflict in the following terms in the New York Times:
“This is a playoff situation in which you need both teams to lose, but at least you don’t want one to win – we’ll settle for a tie,….Let them both bleed, hemorrhage to death: that’s the strategic thinking here. As long as this lingers, there’s no real threat from Syria.”
I don’t think it can get much clearer than that. The US-Israeli plan in Syria has never been about helping anyone in that country, but rather insuring its effective dismemberment so as to further the perceived “strategic interests” of the Jewish state.
As Tomás Alcoverro, the longtime Mideast correspondent of Barcelona’s La Vanguardia newspaper wrote on 9 October 2015, in reference to the combined Russian and Syrian government attacks carried out during the previous week: “If this joint offensive is successful, the US plan for continuing the war of attrition until both sides are exhausted will lie in ruins”.
Yes, the US and Israelis, have been “faking it” in Syria for a good long time now. And Putin has come along and called their bluff.
And they are not happy about it. Which is why the ongoing campaign of demonization against the Russian leader is being ratcheted up – if that’s possible – to still higher levels of intelligence-insulting hyperbole.
To all those who voted for the fucker twice, I hope u get shot
Right, you would prefer McShame -
Lesser of two evils is still evil
I voted from Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012. Couldn't vote for the lesser of two evils.
This speech was a big nothing burger.
Agreed - no real executive actions - just some calls for a 'do nothing' Congress to 'do something'. They won't.
I was thinking the same thing. Fly in for a special prime time speech in the oval office and then say nothing.
My only take away was the creepiness of how he pronounced Muslim as "Moose-leeem"
My arabic friends say Moose limb,
rather than Ma slim
Never traveled much I guess.
Oh, he did say something.
He said that he still thinks he is above the 2nd Amendment and that he will, by golly, flood this country with moose-limbs and we need to be nice about it.
He also said something about working with our allies and even those who aren't our allies, such as Russia.
Had to get the jab in.
I am the great and mighty cornholio..........you must seek refuge in Allah from my authority
Still isn't serious (not a surprise obviously).
Still won't stop the money flows from private persons, nor the banks they transit it through.
Pays barely lip service to oil money.
But will look on the backend regarding guns.
Vote for more contiuned military action with drone bombs against Houthi's who... are against ISIL/Al-Qeada/Whatthefuckever?
Obama helps create the problem but is preying on democrats who think his shit approach is better just because he isn't sending 150,000 troops into a different set of 'dumb war'.
Obama, still not serious about our War OF terror. Saudi's, banks, and clandestine support. That's what supports terrorism. Drone bombs, illegal wars, and out and out idiocy... that's what supports it on the other side.
We'll succeed on the right side of history???? Cue the Gilbert nerd laugh from Revenge of the Nerds.
We haven't met any challenge since 9/11. Just bent over for warmongers, wall street, and the people who funded....or lobbied for it all.
Fucking Glass-Steagall and sane banking and bombing action people.
Hello Fucknob Obama,
Watching you on FOX news.
Why haven't you released the list of illegal immigrants that have flooded this country. Your motivation is to flood democrats to receive illegal votes.
The FBI is still investigation Hillary Clinton.
We reject you as a Presidential Leader Obama. Our country will die to protect this country. You are a Marxist disaster.
This fucker doesn't know about ISIS or ISIL.
He knows esactly what ISIL is that is why he calls them ISIL. He has help destabalize and turn over much of ME to ISIS so abu bak al-baghdadi can fulfill the rebuilding of the caliphate tha the first abu bakr tried to do but was turned by by Pope Clement. Dear Leader wants the bound of Sykes Pecot removed and there to be 1 ME ruled by the brotherhood.
Obama just said, "Let's not forget what makes us exceptional." He finally said it. We are exceptional? Or just the effeminate ruling class? I guess his speechwriters read the criticisms.
What a disastrous presidency, which isn't over.
Impeach Obubmler... Putin in 2016
Neither one is a natural-born citizen. Sorry, Putin is out of contention. (Same goes for Rubio and Cruz.)
How can this person even begin to ameliorate the loss of life that could have been prevented?
They're TERRORISTS. YOU created them.
What a spineless degenerate!
For me the big takeaway besides the no fly list bullshit was his call for CONgress to authorize his ability to make war. He didn't say war against who, just to make war. We are all ISIL, ISIS, IS, or whateverthefuckyouwanttocalus in his eyes now.
As one who can't stomach this fake he played it safe it was an ok address nothing stood out that we didn't already know .
I guess people who suspect they're on no-fly lists have another easy test to see if they're being tracked. Nice work, Mr Pres!
I have two work colleagues that were on no-fly list. They had no idea why. One of them took a month to get off it. Face it, any thing .gov does is fucked up
I have a bad feeling about this...
I don't see how this ISIS situation will get better anytime soon.
The president doesn't like war and he won't do anything.
Trump doesn't sound serious about anything. He just says I hate this. I hate this. I hate this. I am right, you are wrong.
No one has a credible plan to stop these terrorist attacks... lol
hcho3:
I have a bad feeling about this...
"I don't see how this ISIS situation will get better anytime soon."
Well for starters we should maybe stop supporting them and training them and arming them.
The president doesn't like war and he won't do anything.
Drone man? ORLY? Doesn't like woar? Surely you jest.
Trump doesn't sound serious about anything. He just says I hate this. I hate this. I hate this. I am right, you are wrong.
Oh...and Obama sounds serious? RAAAYYYT.
No one has a credible plan to stop these terrorist attacks... lol
Well, you're right there.... no one is talking about stopping the illegal invasions of sovereign nations and bombing the fuck out of them for the last 20 years...
"No one has a credible plan to stop these terrorist attacks. "
Someone with courage needs to take a page out of the playbook of that sainted progressive, Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He incarcerated American citizens of Japanese descent "for the duration". How about we do the same for all Muslims in the USA? We already have those FEMA camps, so all we have to do is emulate good old FDR!
Now about finding someone with courage...we're screwed.
Obama equates Muslim terrorism with black violence.
He looks at this through his black goggles.
I hate to say this... but we gonna have to find a way to restirct people coming to this country from Middle East.
I don't hate to say it. restrict people coming in to the U.S. from all countries. Everyone must be properly vetted or you are not coming in.
Try flying to Saudi without a visa. see what kind of reception you get at the airport.
And be sure to bring money for a return ticket otheriwse they lock you up - Saudis won't spend good money deporting you.
So, he puts everyone on a no fly list.
Problem solved.
(sarcophagus)
I'll go for that if it includes Barry himself. And Hillary. Hell, let's just shut down all the airports and fire the air traffic controllers. Long Greyhound.
The guy's phoning it in.