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San Bernardino Attack Eye-Witness: "Three Tall White Men Did It"
Submitted by Shepard Ambellas via Intellihub.com,
A few interesting details have surfaced regarding Wednesday’s mass shooting dubbed ‘terror attack’ which killed 14 and injured 17 others. One of the most interesting comes from an eyewitness.
We now know that ATF investigators recovered police issued firearms from the alleged shooters. This key detail was leaked by 2016 GOP Presidential Candidate Carly Fiorina during a press interview after she had overheard a newsroom report that doesn’t fit the official narrative.
We also know that active shooter drills actually took place near the crime scene just days before and possibly even on the same day of the mass shooting as reported by Mac Slavo.
Additionally details from an eyewitness, who came forth on the day of the shooting, may have been overlooked by investigators and suggest that there were actually ‘three white shooters’ instead of the radicalized husband and wife natural-born killer team portrayed in some mainline reports.
The witness, Sally Abdelmageed, worked at Inland Medical Center where the attack took place and saw it all unfold firsthand. It’s also important to note that Abdelmageed is likely not lying and that this quite possibly might be the most accurate eyewitness account publicized to date. After all how can two shooters, a man and a petite woman, be mistaken for three white military men with athletic builds?
In a phone interview with CBS Abdelmageed explained:
"I heard shots fired and it was from you know an automatic weapon. [...] very unusual. Why would we hear shots? As we looked out the window a second set of shots goes off [...] and we saw a man fall to the floor. Then we just looked and we saw three men dressed in all black, military attire, with vests on they were holding assault rifles. As soon as they opened up the doors to building three [...] one of them [...] started to shoot into the room."
When asked what the gunman that shot into the room looked like the eyewitness replied:
"I couldn’t see a face, he had a black hat on […] black cargo pants, the kind with the big puffy pockets on the side [...] long sleeve shirt [...] gloves [...] huge assault rifle [...] six magazines […] I just saw three dressed exactly the same”.
“You are certain you saw three men,” the newscaster asked Abdelmageed.
“Yes,” said Abdelmageed.
“It looked like their skin color was white. They look like they were athletic build and they appeared to be tall.”
In a shill-like manner the CBS reporter responded, “And of course we just learned that one suspect was a woman.”
To boot it also appears as if the suspects legal team believes their clients may have been made out by authorities and/or the media to be patsies further allowing for gun control narratives to be pushed onto the public. The suspects legal team also questions the validity of the Sandy Hook shooting which some believe never took place and may have been a live active shooter drill, using crisis actors, perpetuated by the establishment media as a ‘mass shooting’ as covered heavily by Intellihub in the past.
“President Barack Obama will make a rare primetime address to the nation Sunday laying out how he will keep Americans safe and defeat the Islamic State group, days after 14 people were shot dead in California,” AFP reports.
May I now ask the question: what the hell is going on here?
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Don't believe it then. I simply don't give a fuck for you and your ilk.
Just how in the fuck do you know what any one of us is capable of doing?
I have faith. In myself and my tools to get jobs done. I know how to do them.
Do not project your helplessness, incompetence, and defeatism on the rest of us.
In fact, please go away. I do not wish you to be my countryman. You who will gladly kneel and lick the hand holding your chains.
Fuck off.
WTF did he say to justify that tirade?
And just incase you thought there were some upvotes, the computer generated three of them with my nine down votes. The wonders of technology.
"Does the story really matter at this stage? "
Hitlery write that for you?
All war is now Psy wars first....blood and gore second.
It is more important to create the atmos-fear. See?
Deeper and deeper we go into the simulacra...it's all real and it's all totally fake at the same time.
https://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2015/11/27/by-george-oh-well-war-psy-no...
"All war is now Psy wars first....blood and gore second."
That's because "Full Spectrum Dominance is Politics-by-other-Means"* -Kirk (c)2015
* For the same reason that Patents are typically 'Innovative Improvements on Prior Art', so too wise sayings are subject to the same rule of innovation -- in this case on the old saw from Von Clausewitz ('War is politics by other means').
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They did find the terrorist quickly.
The authorities allow the press to swarm into the "shooters" townhouse 2 days after the shooting? Yeah sure.
cuz they were already dead or drugged..
Dr. Doom on youtube shows home video where the cops sealed off the street before the shoot out, one area as if it was already decided.
As if there was a drill nearby with plenty of force ready to deploy.
I have seen no CIA Mercs being arrested as of yet, Fester. They found the patsies really quick.
They will never find the three white men responsible as they are not looking.
I, too, am disturbed by the suddenly missing third person.
However, real, actual people were killed in this False Flag event.
Not to minimize their deaths many were killed on 9/11 as well.
Sally Abdelmageed sounds white to me!
Baghdad Bob's long lost sister.
What a trip huh?
Apparently we're being asked to believe Sally Abdelmageed instead of all the other actual eye witnesses recovering from their wounds in the hospital.
Next we'll be asked to believe unicorns shitting skittles cure ebola and we should appoint a Unicorn Czar post haste to properly manage the outbreak of ebola or the unicorns but no ones quite sure...just appoint the czar dammit, this is a crisis!
Eye witnesses? As has been pointed out repeatedly, the third shooter was described from the very beginning by multiple sources.
Why would you buy into this story hook, line and sinker and make fun of people simply wanting to know the truth?
Oh I dunno...because NO ONE ELSE IS COOBORATING IT AS THE TRUTH...just maybe?
You're up...give me another one...
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Fucking well! Is anybody at THE HOSPITAL saying the same thing BoP?!
I'm getting sick & fucking tired of this dissembling bullshit
any guesses on why the full vicitms list will be sealed?
It's not sealed. They are real people.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/03/us/san-bernardino-shootings-victims/
CNN, thanks for the laugh. Is that not the same news outlet that employs that lying sack of zionist shit Wolf Blitzer?
Any other MISINFORMATION you want to throw out there while you're at it?
Sorry, ZH started loosing me some months ago with stuff like this.
What is it that is illogical about that statement?
boo hoo go back to video games
Sorry to "loose" you.....moron
I don't mind free speech and varying opinion but when people can't recognize that THE FACTS are at complete variance with the OPINION they start losing me too.
How can I put this so even complete idiots can understand it?
NOT-EVERYONE-IN-THE-ROOM-GOT-SHOT-OR-DIED-AND-THEY-SAW-WHO-DID-IT-TOO!!!
And they were are herded on to buses and not allowed to speak to reporters.
I watched the live reports of that happenstance.
The reporters were pissed.
Not unexpected.
In this day & age everyone is said to be "traumatized" by friggin everything and "grief counselors" are always offered to noodle around inside the brains of the "afflicted" while pensively chewing on pencil erasers grunting out "Well, how do you feel about that?"
I'd lay money that our dear Sally WhatsHerFace talked to one, she seems like the type.
Why don't you fly your oh-so-sure ass out there and report back to us? Huh?
Is it because you're afraid to be wrong, or that you know that entire narrative is bullshit by this time and you'll never get past the stone wall of propaganda?
WTF would the hospital know apart from injured admitted? If you mean patients, good luck finding out what they have to say.
They'd be dead by the time you hit the tarmac. See how this works?
And three other lunatics upvoted this.
Yeah, it's always that first little blip where you get an inkling of the truth. After that, the editors massage the 'facts' to fit the desired narrative.
Yes, very much so...but there's also a simple litmus test for any terrorist attack...if even Alex Jones thinks it happened the way it was reported, then it definitely happened the way it was reported.
Oh gawd yes, we simply must have litmus tests devised to sort out all the evil doers!
Never mind the past historical accuracy of the devisers of limus tests...we simply must!
lol...good grief, the insanity.
Your sorry ass flunked out of the '9/11 101 for Morons' class years ago...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6O4LE0eTYc
Now go eat your own shit and die...Asshole!
Calling that the Moron Class is about the most truthful thing you've ever said, oh great warrior...lol.
No Problem ACE - where are the Perimeter Videos / Parking lot / entrance / Lobby / Inside Each Floor Hallway Videos / Pics of countless IPhones ????? show us the - ->>>>>>>>Woman IN THE BUILDING
show the chick in the building not scripted actors
The photos are in FBI custody right now! Being photo shopped as we speak to show THREE WHITE GUYS IN BLACK TACTICAL GEAR...uhhh, I mean...a man & a woman in tactical gear planting thermite in the Statue of Liberty in San Francisco bay!
Jeeezus.
what you dont get they then have to doctor every sequence on every floor and all the rest - Pentagon they couldnt do it and said there was only two cameras operating for a building that size essentially same angle and they still fucked the presentation.
sequence frame by frame is hard for mulitple cameras then compare before and after not easy splice
No, I get it. I was just playing with the lunatics trying to convince themselves (and others) that Sayeeed and his ole lady weren't the ones who did it.
"It was three white guys!"...lol.
Deep breathes nmewn. All a part of the show. Don't let them suck you in to the mania by hitting a few wires. Play some basketball with squire and burn off some testosterone ( mr prefers using a 2x4 on something, thankfully inanimate).
I stand with you, as always
Miffed;-)
If the bulding was instead a Taco Bell, then we'd have videos from parking lot, restaurant and the traffic light down the street.
THose videos are being kept the same place as the one monitoring the Pentagon on 911
How can we be sure you are not Ayn Rand. Kinda joking---re-reading ATLAS SHRUGGED. Last read it some 50+ years. Your last sentence set me off. Milestones
I am Ayn Rand dammit! No one believes me even when I say I'm Ayn Rand on the internet!
Its very frustrating ;-)
Rand had this thing - all her women were taken by force. Maybe you too and has led to PTSD
When you're done with Rand, if you want harder core philosophy try Stirner
http://dflund.se/~triad/stirner/theego/theego.pdf
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/max-stirner/
First report said 3 shooters.
Oh so did the Indian Temple shooting
Batman Movie Theater
Sandy Hoax
Are you sure you didn’t mean to say whitish?
HER (as in she) quote is...
“It looked like their skin color was white. They look like they were athletic build and they appeared to be tall.”
“It looked like their skin color was white. They look like they were athletic build and they appeared to be tall.”...anything else Escarava?
Double your pleasure ;-)
Forget it. It was supposed to be a ‘ism’ joke.
Sorry, I knew I was going to be ass deep in idiots last night and didn't catch it.
I apologize.
The MSM/guv is obviously involved in a massive fabrication hiding the fact that the shooters were indeed white extremists. But now one eye-witness has stepped forward giving the game away.
Here’s an illuminating article from the Nation by Max Berger that explains the motive.
http://www.thenation.com/article/how-to-understand-white-male-terrorism/
Some excerpts.
“We’ve been here before, and we know that violent backlash is at its fiercest when movements for racial and gender justice are winning.
Everywhere I look lately, there are signs of white men panicking about their supremacy over American society.
A group of white men shot at young Black Lives Matter protesters on consecutive nights in Minneapolis last weekend, injuring five people. Donald Trump, still a leading Republican presidential candidate, proposed creating a database and ID cards for Muslims, leading even some Republicans to label him as a fascist. White Student Unions are popping up around the country in response to demands that university administrations do more to fight racism on campus. Finally, Robert Dear opened fire at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood clinic last week, killing three people and injuring nine.
As a white man, I want to understand what it is about the ideas of “whiteness” or “America” that’s causing white American males to be the country’s largest terror threat. Why isn’t white violence that is intended to shut down black movements, or male violence intended to intimidate women, considered terrorism by so many?…”
“In this moment of polarization, those who politically, economically, or emotionally depend upon the domination of black people are forced to cling ever harder to their hatred…”
“I have to imagine the white men who commit these egregious acts of terror do so out of a silent, personal fear that the myths of whiteness and masculinity engender in themselves. The dehumanization white supremacists perpetrate on others has to be, in part, a projection of the dehumanization they feel themselves. The sad men that hang out on 4chan plotting the destruction of innocent others don’t believe they can be the strong, virile, white male dominators they are prescribed to be. No one who feels good about themselves talks as much as Donald Trump does about how he is a “winner” and other people are “losers.” No one who is confident of their humanity would deny acceptance to a 5-year-old orphan refugee.
And yet, these white, American men are taught they must be silent in considering their fear, because to even admit they feel it would be to undo the myths of whiteness and masculinity they cling to…”
What a pile of crap. A pompous over educated idiot. Frankly, sometimes I don't see how white males can take the onslaught of sheer garbage as this being foisted on them.
Miffed
but but but... Max Berger is a white male, is he not? He says so himself. Then what possible motive would he have to pen such a piece unless he is a "self-hating" white male?
Nay, he must be speaking the truth.
"those who politically, economically, or emotionally depend upon the domination of black people"
How, exactly, are blacks 'dominated' politically these days? How are they economically dominated when they receive over 25% of all SNAP/EBT payments, despite being only 13% of the population? And who are these people who "emotionally depend" on the domination of blacks? Because I've never met one.
I can't speak definitively for the author, but I'll give it a stab...
The entire law enforcement apparatus in America depends to a great extent on the domination of black people. This includes the cops, the lawyers, the courts, the penal system. Without the processing of blacks through the system, the whole thing would collapse into a much smaller footprint in terms of payrolls.
Furthermore, to anyone who has ever read any of the histories of Reconstruction and Jim Crow in the South, the idea of white "emotional dependence" on domination of blacks is quite familiar. To put it in a nutshell, to a dirt-poor white sharecropper, he is invested emotionally in being better than the negro, even when they are economically on the same level. In a perverse way, his dignity as a man depends on his social ranking above the black man. Although this system has been shaken up since the repeal of blatant Jim Crow era discrimination, the old patterns persist.
'Three' middle eastern 'men' dressed all in black, with tactical vests and big, scary black 'assault' weapons...Middle Eastern, dressed all in black, would look white in comparison to all the above. They're not fuckin' black, so de facto, they're white.
Wearing masks, gloves, long sleeves, covered from head to toe, but she knew they were white.
What? No rhythm?
Apparently they couldn't jump either...lol...but they were tall!!!...lmao!
She didn't say masks, she said black hat.
Here's her LinkedIn page.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sally-abdelmageed-a0257b20
is ZH going after the Alex Jones crowd,,
she is ARABIC...
Sally Abdelmageed
Languageshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/sally-abdelmageed-a0257b20
Have you watched Alex lately, with his emergency alerts or whatever they are called? Somehow, to me, he looks different, stranger than I have ever seen him. Compromised?
Bill Cooper Called him out in the 90's'. I'd say hes been comprimised for awhile there Sherlock. Still waiting for those Walmarts down south to turn into ISIS command facilities? Hopefully you bought a lifestraw and some anti radiation supplements before ISIS takes out the power grid from fortified Walmart facilities
Guilty. Bought my radiation supplements the day after Fukishima, and twenty life straws back in September.
In spite of your sarcasim, those like me have other shitpiles.
There's wood, fuel, water, food, ammo, weapons..none of which were purchased from fortified Walmart facilities.
Cracks
Well now, the third shooter is back in play. No wonder they wanted that crime scene altered and destroyed.
To be honest, I don't know what happened there or who did it, but it never surprises me when the official narrative breaks down.
They lost me when the landlord "authorized" the media to get inside the alledged perps apartment. Give me a freaking break. I don't trust ANYTHING the mainstream media says, the president says or what is reported without proof. Fuck the .gov.
It allways does gonna be an interesting month . Go Yellen go on and raise rates when there are three white men out shooting up the neighborhood unbelievable, the president looked like he did some coke last night very hung over
next you'll be saying he snorted it off Michelle's erect penis. Sheesh.
It's a stretch to think that cow could get it's penis erect four minutes or longer as the Obama eagerly fumbles with droping trou, assuming the position, and requesting whatever brand name lube is required (I'm assuming there's a brand name lube, we're in a capitalist society, so there's got to be an "AssRam", "AnalLube", "GreaseTheSkids" sort of brand name.) Has to be, I don't know which or alternative, but it's out there.
I think Hillary Clinton would call it "the fog of war". Isn't that her excuse for initially lying to the families who lost members in Benghazi?
But if it wasn't the jihadi couple, why would Barry and friends try to pin it on them after the MSM went to all the trouble of suggesting otherwise? It will really get suspicious if the building is torn down in the near future, like the Sandy Hook school.
.."I think Hillary Clinton would call it "the fog of war"..
..Meanwhile back at the ranch, we suffer the fog of crisis.. like waves at the beach.
hitlery had her "the video did it" excuse ready before the attack happened
I have believed for a long time that the real reason for that attack was to rub out someone who knew way way too much about HRC's running of heavy weapons from Libya to what would later become ISIS in Syria.
I heard "three shooters" all day long - the day it happened - then nothing about the third person after that.
Honestly, I don't know what to believe anymore, and I suppose that is the point, eh?
That "third person" reminds me of the guy running away into the woods from the school at Sandy Hook.
And I suspect you're correct in assuming that TPTB want you uncertain.
What I think is amazing is how many people didn't notice or question the discrepancy if it is that obvious.
And I heard that the 3rd one was "Abducted by Aliens".
IOW... Unless I have something to hang a hat on, I'm not one to put much stock in accepting rumors -- and much less on passing them.
Exactly.
News reports are often wrong or put out erroneous information that needs to be or is retracted later in on-going, developing situations.
And even here, on Zero Hedge, supposedly some of the deepest thinkers on the planet took EVERYTHING they have read or heard, ruminated on it, threw this out but kept this in...and came away accepting the words of ONE confused young woman.
Even after they put their own integrity on the line just mere weeks ago yakking about "I don't see any blood!" in the streets of Paris so, they call bullshit, didn't happen.
It's either willful ignorance, blind stupidity or genuine malice.
crime scene altered, HUGE! How in a million years did that happen. Biggest crinme scene since OJ... well nine eleven anyway. Oh yea they took some pics, nevermind. clear!
shredded papers in the wastebasket . the fbi supposedly didnt even take them. one would think that only sensitive stuff would be shredded....hahahahaha. this whole 'investigation stopped because obama didnt want anyone to know how far down the rabbit hole this shit goes....
dig into okc bombing. Jayna Davis book (okc news reporter, very credible), John Doe #2 i think is the name. her conclusion doesnt fit exactly now with me, but she concluded that the fbi took all the data that she delivered and filed it w/o any further investigation. Clearly not what they concluded... clearly. Lots of you tubes on that, which brings up why does youtube allow these truther type videos, that makes me wonder.
Jayna Davis book, "The Third Terrorist (2004)" A middle east connection to the Oklahoma City bombing. A very credible investigative book. She was an Oklahoma City TV reporter when the bombing took place.
Yes sadams guard were the conspirators in her conclusion. I'll bet she has another theory by now. Not sure how clear the big picture was back then, but that book was my first foray into the other side of the official narratives. I wonder what percentage of the voting population still buy the msm bs. I know it is probably single digits for those who dont.
PS jayna will be keeping any new theories to herself im sure.
And yes Mopwater youtube aka gov google knows what we watch, screening for patsies, lol?
Simple, they allow them up to offer an alternative explanation. They also are usually poorly made, and use keywords like "illuminati". The MSM can use them as a way to point out how "crazy" the ideas are, and anyone who watches them is crazy.
Plus, it allows YouTube the ability to track IP addresses...so they know who's watching...and where you live.
Yep, dilution and disinformation are the top reasons. They can offer you A LOT of videos, without offering you a lot of quality. And then they will slowly start 'recommending' flat earth videos for you!
"What, thats what our computer algorith predicts you will enjoy."
The videos on something like Freemasonry for example are not very informative at all.
I feel like this story will be around for some time. If someone is indeed taking legal action on this against the state, then there is going to be some insane fallout, complications and kangaroo court action to come.
The deep state has been able to get away with this stuff for a long time, but they got their hand thoroughly stuck in the cookie jar this time.
Exactly!
While I have no doubt that a false flag is fully possible in this case, I'm not going to consider the word of a Saudi (that's where the name Abdelmageed originates, FYI) a credible basis to come to that conclusion. Especially not when the source is a government mouthpiece like CBS.
That "white shooter' bluff was hillarious!
Then, it was 1-3 shooters, for "scape-goating" purposes.
I need some of those X-RAY vision goggles.
Well if the shooters were dressed in black and she couldn't see their faces, how does she know they were white?
There are very few reliable eyewitness reports, especially under stress.
It's a fact.
Either Sally is extremely observant or...she's making it up.
She had time to count six magazines? And the reported "assault" weapons - one was a DPMS, the other I think a S&W - are not huge. Plus she reported automatic weapon fire?
Then again, I did a search on the name Abdelmageed. Results returned associated first or last names including Ahmed, Alaa, Hadeel, Elmustafa, Sayed, Islam. So results with Sally. Is that her real first name? Is she a disinformation agent? Why is it so difficult to believe anything I read or hear about current events?
Her LinkedIn page does state that she speaks Arabic.
When the story first broke they said 3 white men. Lots of BS floating around out there!
I heard the three white men story too. I think it must have come from Sally Abdelmageed because the eyewitness couldn't see any skin but knew they were white.
Is it strange that Sally speaks Arabic?
No surprise here.
Same as the California grid attacks: Operators.
Jim Stone Freelance collected MSM photos of the deaths of the "shooters". The photos were taken in 3 different locations. Hoax busted.
Eyewitness', alibis, motives, evidence, forensics, photos, videos....It all means nothing. What does CNN, Fox, Sky, BBC say about it all, that's all that matters now.
"What difference does it make now!!?".............
This article is pretty much BS. the guns were NOT police issue. the ATF already did a trace on the guns legally purchased and then modified for full auto and for larger capacity mags than the CA law allows.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/san-bernardino-shooting-atf-says-all-4-guns-...
They would not have to be modified to use larger capacity mags. You don't know much about guns do you?
Can also drop in auto sear. Costs $200 for class three conversion. Just a little piece of aluminum with a spring toggle that you can drop in the lower reciever of the AR-15 to convert semi auto to full auto.
You do not know much about gun manfacture or the effect of State gun laws and the effect on it:
So you can't and are unwilling to read to eliminate your ignorance????
http://www.wsj.com/articles/rifles-used-in-san-bernardino-shooting-illeg...
And we all know the ATF would never lie about a covert government operation.
I agree with that b e ause they did so well in Waco, Texas.
Daily Mail had a pic of a spent shell casing and those that know about guns and ammo said it was an AK 74
not AK 47 and that it is rare, along with its ammo.
They are AR-15 .223 caliber rifles. One was modified to be fully automatic (illegal) other just had a larger mag and not illegal.
No AK-74
I'm not a gun person so I don't know but here is the shell casing.
https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/ak47-2.jpg?...
Memo to Abdelmageed--get a couple million of life insurance asap and determine who is going to take care of your kids after they wack you.
Why didn't she film it, she is of the phone film generation.
I knew the official narrative was fucked when I hoped it would be ISIS and then it all of a sudden was. I "hi-5'ed" myself and then 10 seconds later I was like...this can't be right?!
Like I said when this story broke. You can find the shooters sitting in the black house with O-bomba having coffee
Patsies?
NSA lures these two assailants into commiting the act. The "chaperones" , the US CIA operatives who were spotted wearing body armor, made sure that the assailants were killed. For all I know, the assailants didn't wear body armor because the chaperones would insure their safety and escape. Double crossed.
I know , I know, crazy. But I am not smoking anything. Honest.
Problem is, their passports weren't left at the scene. sarc/
There's always time!
Don't know if you're right but I like that you're thinking.
Been dealing online with a lot of very stupid lefties atm, and have gotten into the habit of giving these compliments out of simple relief. No offense.
Wow, ZH, continuing to shred your dwindling credibility publishing stuff like this. Is anyone at the helm anymore?
Yeah, a covert CIA operative. But it's for our own good.
As opposed to the Jew Shill MSM who always tell the truth. It's never been more obvious to observers outside the US that .gov is now desperate to take, or ban, any and all firearms and will use any means available to make that happen.
And > If you don't like the content here then feel free to fuck off you shill retard.
ZH certainly is not what it used to be years ago when financial facts mattered in the markets.
I don't blame them for almost throwing in the towel when they point out a fraud and the 'markets' behave like it is a good thing...
The world changed so ZH changed along with it.
Your mum!
Ah. A lot can be said for the simple insult.
On video, it looked like a lot of spooks and mercs were attending the Boston Marathon non-bombing.
We all saw the white guy(s) on tape running away from Sandy Hook elementary.
In the absence of legit video, who is to say exactly what went down?
and we all saw those two kids leave the marathon with their backpacks on an intact and looking absolutely nothing like the backpacks the security services were wearing and the same type that exploded
They have learned from their mistakes at Boston and Sandy Hook but they still aren't perfect. The first news reports said there were three. You won't hear that anymore though.
even for ZH this is just drivel. Really lowers the standards of some of the decent in house reporting that's done.
Standards? Since when.
ZH standards went down the shitter when the ad numbers when gaga. Now just about anything a little wacky gets printed here, no matter how looly.
But some if it's still really good shit.
Way too many seeds and stems though.
It's a cockoo nest now. ZH is "propaganda drug' of choice for the likes of Sayed Farook, they come here to learn to hate Israel. Farook was obsessed with Israel and this site is one that can radicalize warped minds like Farook's.
I wouldn't be surprised that there were posters here that are closely watched by international authorities as potentially dangerous 'nuts' that can go off .....with all their guns and ammunition, who knows?
And... you.
Here with all the Israeli baby eaters.
snack on a couple of foreskins, and next thing you know, they're calling you a baby eater.
The very first people arrested on suspicion of involvement in the 9/11 attacks turned out to be five Israeli Jews: Sivan Kurzberg, Paul Kurzberg (Sivan's brother), Oded Ellner, Yaron Shmuel and Omer Marmari. Their white Urban Moving Systems van was stopped and they were arrested within hours of the attacks, on the afternoon of 9/11/01. Sivan Kurzberg, Ellner and Shmuel had been observed by several eyewitnesses at the rear parking lot of the Doric apartment complex in Union City, New Jersey. They were seen atop the van with cameras, high-fiving, smiling, joking with cries of joy and mockery, hugging each other, and taking photographs and video of the Twin Towers within a few minutes of the first plane impact.
When arrested, the Israelis - dubbed the "High-Fivers" by the FBI - were found to have airline tickets with immediate travel dates for destinations world-wide, and tie-ins to 9/11.
Early reports said that these "tie-ins" were "maps of the city" with "certain places highlighted" linking the Israelis to the "bombing plot". Carl Cameron's subsequent Fox News report of 12/12/01 told of a "highly placed investigator" who admitted that there were tie-ins, but refused to provide details. The investigator stated, "Evidence linking these Israelis to 9-11 is classified, I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It is classified information."
Marc Perelman of New York's Jewish weekly The Forward reported on March 15, 2002 that the FBI had concluded that at least two of the Israelis were agents working for the Mossad, and their employer Urban Moving Systems Incorporated was a suspected intelligence front. On September 14, 2001, Urban's owner Dominick Suter fled the U.S. for Israel. Perelman also tells on video of how he was able to confirm that, according to the FBI, two of the five Israelis were "Mossad agents". Christopher Ketcham says the transcripts of the Carl Cameron report were later removed from the Fox News website following pressure from Abe Foxman of the ADL, and replaced with : "This story no longer exists".
The FBI documents on the five Israelis were heavily redacted before release, with the more politically sensitive parts blanked out and classified until 2030 or 2035. Nevertheless, the information retained shows that Paul Kurzberg worked for the Jewish Agency, and his brother Sivan's job in Israel had involved hunting Arabs of whom the Zionist regime did not approve. The FBI documents also show how the NS-2C Unit of its "National Security Division" from FBI Headquarters, Washington, D.C., in a communication dated 09/24/2001, ordered FBI-Newark to call off its investigation of the Israelis and to "assist US Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) in any INS proceedings for the five Israeli Nationals in detention at the Federal Bureau of Prisons, Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, New York". Dual US-Israeli citizen Michael Chertoff, who co-authored the USA Patriot Act" and headed the Justice Department's Criminal Division in the aftermath of 9/11, is a prime suspect for pulling strings to get the Israelis released and sent home.
I see the .gov shills are out in force for this story.
I saw a White woman during O.J's trial say that she saw a White man kill Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman? /sarc She said it with a straight face, O.J's mouth was wide opened when she that.
Let me guess, Kirk Rambis, John Koncak and Larry Bird.
Stupid article again.
Coming from Experimental Psychology myself, eyewitness testimony has been known to be inaccurate in the past. Just on colour identification of key aspects of crime that have been known to vary in eyewitness testimony from car identification of colour to clothing identification of colour et cetera, we see inaccuracies. Frankly, eyewitnesses report events as they perceive events after the fact. Memory, perception, et cetera, clouds recall of events, colours, size, weight, ad infinitum. Check out Sensation & Perception in Experimental Psychology via Google
when you have a few minutes.
the best are those experiments where they have the fake crime, then in the line up use people who are all completely different.
most people still pick someone.
Part of how brainwashing actually works is by evoking recall while supplying false details. Because memory is essentially a reconstruction of events, and less salient details are less sticky, sooner or later you can make Dancing Israelis become Dancing Muslims.
Trump and Carson have backwards 911 claimshttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=flWqM5xLUPM
911, anthrax, vans, and Israelishttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QphxGBXiA-M
Or switch from hating Eastasia to Oceania in a matter of moments.
Sometimes the guerilla in the room can be made invisible.
http://www.theinvisiblegorilla.com/gorilla_experiment.html
This is a real reach by those who want to support the narrative that there is no such thing as 'organic' Islamic militancy.
Just because our government is pond scum worthy, that does not then make it so that every cited attack is bogus. My 'litmus test' as it were is to judge how quickly the media force feeds us talking points.
The San Bernardino (and Paris) incidents laced cohesive narratives (in contrast with 9-11.)
FYI, the only 'reports' of white guys doing the shooting were pure baloney wishes by MSNBC types. The police scanner chatter was the same all day. Indeed, the media sat on the fact that these were Muslims precisely because it did not fit the 'crazy white men >>> disarm the crazy white men' narrative.
ZH I'm sorry to say is macking it hard for progressives between this tripe and parroting of the lying press ('FAR' right wing Front National. The NAZIS are back and this time they speak French. AHHHHH!)
So what are the odds (I'm asking here - not a pet theory) that 3 Academi mercs did the shooting, and they were bait-and-switched with 2 eeeevil muslims to keep up the neocon agenda overseas and the gun grabber agenda here?
Have any witnesses of the dozens noted 2 shooters, including a very small one laboring under 60 pounds of vest and tac gear?
one>??
Those would be very good odds....
Perhaps something went wrong, and these are the "backukp Patsies", like happened at the Boston Marathon. Maybe it was planned to be blamed on a couple white patriotic types, but something went really wrong, and they had to blame it on these two.
Maybe the "anti gov militia men" Patsies didn't show up to work that day.
This story is gonna fall apart. You just can't fool all the people all the time. It's the mom with the 6 mo. old baby that causes every woman who hears this story, to stop and go "what?", something that the kind of psychopaths who plan these sorts of operations wouldn't have the slightest idea about.
Ding ding ding ding ding!!!! YAHTZEE:-)
As a parent, only a completely pychopathic horrid humiliation of a human being would leave her child and go on a killing spree. After seeing these peoples home inside, not a chance in hell are these two guilty of this attack.
TPTB royally fracked themselves up on this one as they made a FATAL mistake in their narrative.
The let the media in to their home thinking it will destroy the crime scene!
What I saw is what we all saw, a home made for a NEW LIFE. A home which looked like a celebration of life for a child. End of story this was a planned, totally rigged and uttely false flag event.
The entire state of KY and what I'm hearing out of Florida is now locked and loaded but with no terrorists to guard from?
The sad thing is this, since the real terrorists are the ones in our peoples office who have been perpetrating these crimes likely since the main set off event in 93 WTC which we all now know fully was a complete FBI op, we're sadly going to see more destroyed lives moving forward.
This family was absolutely the patsy they were set up to be. There is no ability to change my mind on this.
Our leadership who is responsible must be taken out before they take us all out that much is clear.
From an ex-soldiers perspective, we're in deep and this is not even close to being over and done with.
The main event is coming and it will be nuclear from inside our good ole USG.
All those missing nukes from the illegal black ops ordincance transfer out of DYESS AFB Sept 2013? At least 20 nukes are still missing, WTF?
It's about to go hot people, bank that! They cannot keep this system alive anymore and TPTB must by force of necessity light this off within a few months to run cover for their destruction of our financial and political world.
Interesting to see people pimping the Pelosi line " a woman with a baby wouldn't do this!" Well, yeah anyone who would do this is batshit crazy whether they have a baby or not. Women drown their five kids in the family bathtub and drive their cars full of kids into a lake a drown them all. There are all kinds of fuckwits in he world. There does seem to be a pattern here though. Sandy Hook, Aurora Colorado, The Sikh temple - all had initial reports of multiple shooters. Sandy hook even had video of other people being taken into custody. All the witnesses reporting these things seem to fall off the map with no expectation given. Where is the reporter saying "What about the eye witness who said there were three tall men?"
I will 2nd your theory.
What I find most odd about this attack is that they shot up the place and left within ~4 minutes only to come roaring back 5 hours later. They could have been in Las Vegas within 5 hours.
Only someone with tactical knowledge (or good training) would know how much time they have before the cops show up.
Police were looking for a dark colored SUV...it was all over the news. Why didn't they switch cars?
Yes, the switching cars was one that sounded logical. Since this was obviously planned why did they not park another car a few miles down the street and switch to it. Also why did all the anti gun politicians all immediately have talking points in hand. Lot of shit just doesn't add up. (as in the past for incidents like this)
My point exactly... she's 90 pounds with at the mimimum 30 to 50 pounds of heavy gear which requires brute strength to wip around with????
She's rocking a third to half her body weight in the breeze and a summer dress while fucking off her 6 month old baby gone to do some evil, have lunch and then returning to the scene of the crime 4 hours later and then the suspect leads the assassins, er I mean goverment LE's on a wild raucous 35MPH chase where the suspect is blown into oblivion?
In KY we have an old saying...
that dog don't hunt!
Everything about this is wholesale wrong. Old navy knows a set up when I see it! This poor young family likely needed the money and was told they were doing a great thing helping out the community while helping the police and or LE with their drills and likely to be paid for their efforts.
Bank records show they were saving and hoping to buy a home? What? So they could raise little terrorists right here in Merica?
This whole concocted MSM/GOV spin story and attack is pure fantasy land ops! It's Disney on ice for the alphabet stew going on here.
Our agencies perped this and wasted this family to use as PROPS that much is clear!
All these stories are the same and we all know who the real enemy is, our government has won that distinctive dishonorable title!
Is anything not a false flag according to Zero Hedge? Is there now no such thing as a real criminal, a real terrorist, a real threat that doesn't originate in our own government?
This is getting supremely stupid. Lefty-libs want to ignore reality because it doesn't jive with their political narratives, but apparently righty-libertarians want to do the same thing.
Neither 9/11, nor Sandy Hook, nor the Boston Marathon bombing, nor Charlie Hebdo, nor Paris, nor San Bernadino were false flags. They were all exactly what they appear to be--wanton acts of violence perpetrated by Muslim fanatics and, in one case, a 21 year old mental defective. Get used to it.
Some of you people who think you've taken the red pill are every bit as deluded as the low-information sheeple you decry.
Have there been no false flags ever then, Mr. Moron?
You are aptly named.
The MSM/govt shills are thick on this thread.
Interesting they would blast ZHers for simply "asking questions" on the official narrative being shoved down our throats, while attempting to discredit the site for showing other views and perspectives.
the fbi still thinks no one was murdered at sandy hook. scroll down to newtown:
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the...