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This Is What Donald Trump Thought Of President Obama's Speech

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With The Donald once again firmly back in the lead of the GOP presidential nominee race...

 

He decided that he would "live tweet" President Obama's address tonight on "keeping America safe."

 

President Obama looked decidely tired...

Here is the full speech...

AP details the speech...

8:23 p.m.

 

President Barack Obama says the American Muslim community needs to be a partner in the fight against radical Islam.

 

Obama says Muslims can send credible, effective counter messages and undermine jihadist propaganda.

 

Obama's remarks were part of a prime-time address on the threat of terrorism and the fight against the Islamic State group in Iraq and Syria. At least one of the suspected shooters in the past week's massacre in San Bernardino expressed support for the Islamic State online.

 

Obama is calling the Islamic State "thugs, killers" and a "cult of death." He says they represent a "tiny fraction" of the Muslim community.

 

The president says the West is not at war against Islam. He is cautioning Americans not to single out Muslims.

 

8:20 p.m.

 

President Barack Obama says the U.S. can and must make it harder for would-be mass shooters to kill by making it harder for them to obtain guns.

 

Obama is giving an Oval Office address on terrorism and the U.S. response following attacks in California and Paris. He's calling for Congress to prohibit people suspected of terrorism or on the no-fly list from buying guns.

 

Obama says he knows some people reject all gun safety measures. But he says no matter how effective law enforcement and intelligence is, they can't identify every would-be shooter. Obama says it's a matter of national security to prevent those people from getting guns.

 

Obama has urged stricter gun laws following the California shootings, but like previous mass shootings, those calls have met resistance from gun control opponents. Gun rights advocates oppose the no-fly list proposal because they say it violates the rights of people who haven't been convicted of a crime.

 

8:15 p.m.

 

President Barack Obama says he understands why Americans are worried about the threat of terrorism but is reassuring Americans the U.S. will overcome it.

 

Obama says "we will prevail by being strong and smart." He says Americans cannot give into fear.

 

8:10 a.m.

 

President Barack Obama says it's clear the two killers in the California shootings had gone down the "dark path of radicalization."

 

Obama is giving an Oval Office address on terrorism and the U.S. response following attacks in California and Paris. He's calling it an "act of terrorism designed to kill innocent people."

 

Obama says the killers had stockpiled weapons and ammunition. But Obama says there's no evidence the killers were directed by a terrorist organization overseas. He says there's also no evidence they were part of a broader network in the U.S.

ome headlines from what appeared very much a repetition of previous vacuous speeches...

  • *OBAMA: `NO EVIDENCE' SHOOTERS DIRECTED FROM TERRORISTS OVERSEAS
  • *OBAMA CALLS CALIFORNIA SHOOTING `AN ACT OF TERRORISM'
  • *OBAMA SAYS GROWING EFFORT TO POISON MINDS ONLINE
  • *OBAMA: THREAT FROM TERRORISM IS REAL, WE WILL OVERCOME IT
  • *OBAMA SAYS U.S. WILL HUNT DOWN TERRORISTS WHEREVER NECESSARY
  • *OBAMA SAYS WILL URGE TECH LEADERS TO WORK W/ LAW ENFORCEMENT
  • *OBAMA REITERATES CALL FOR CONGRESS TO PASS GUN LAWS
  • *OBAMA: LAWMAKERS MUST MAKE IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO KILL
  • *OBAMA REITERATES WANTS NEW FORCE AUTHORIZATION ON ISLAMIC STATE
  • *OBAMA SAYS MUSLIM LEADERS MUST OPPOSE ISLAMIC STATE'S IDEOLOGY
  • *OBAMA: IT'S `OUR RESPONSIBILITY' TO REJECT ANTI-ISLAM MEASURES
  • *OBAMA SAYS `FREEDOM IS MORE POWERFUL THAN FEAR'

So, to sum up:

  • Domestically, terrorism is here and we need gun control, internet censorship, to disable encryption, and to work with "Muslim allies" to fix it.
  • Abroad, Congress needs to agree to Obama's demands to do more bombing... because that seems to have worked.
 

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Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:30 | 6885840 MalteseFalcon
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You can thank Sunday Night Football.

Obama knew his mic was getting cut off @ kickoff.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:32 | 6885558 Truther
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Obama looked weeded up there, don't you think?

Fucking delusional. Ashamed to have him as POTUS.

Can't believe that I am saying this but Putin deserves to be called the leader of the free world.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:48 | 6885638 RiverRoad
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Obama's the biggest terrorist of all....scared to death of him.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:59 | 6885692 847328_3527
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I thought he was announcing his resignation tonight after his failure to "vet" those imports in Cali who murdered all those innocent people in cold blood.

 

What happened?

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:42 | 6885894 Yes We Can. But...
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Prolly couldn't muster the stones to do it.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:05 | 6886249 Government need...
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The Wookie is the keeper of the stones.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:06 | 6885721 atthelake
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To have total faith in one man is suicidal. 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 04:09 | 6886729 quartshort
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He resembled recent pictures of Charlie Sheen by the eye of this beholder.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:04 | 6885709 matermaker
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Obama is toast.  It was like Eddie Bernays was at work or something.   The teleprompter was so high over the camera it looked like he was talking to the ceiling.  That alone should tell you what is coming.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:08 | 6885725 matermaker
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by the way, would you suburban pussies quit bashing the whole gay thing.   my gay ass thinks most of you live like pampered babies.    when's the last time you killed something and ate it?

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:28 | 6885832 GeezerGeek
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Since you brought up the whole "gay ass" thing, I think I'll recommend to my neighbors (Steve and John - not their real names but they do exist down the street from me) that they show some pro-Moslem love by going to one of their bakeries and asking for a wedding cake. I'm sure the Moslem bakery will return their love...

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:34 | 6885860 Demdere
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This is what your stereotype of Muslims shows you?

Do you think there are no homosexual Muslims?  That their societies are too primitive to deal with the issue honestly?

Why are all of your mental Muslims like the very simple among Christians?

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 23:56 | 6886212 joego1
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Tàkè a trip to saudiland and ask them about gay Muslims after you get the plane.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:04 | 6886243 xavi1951
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Ask them if you can wear a Crusifix?  Tolerant they are........?!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:07 | 6886261 Government need...
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In the land of the sandnigger, only the 'catcher' is considered gay.  Problem solved. 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 01:03 | 6886445 Kelley
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Umm, in Iran the government hangs gays by the neck for being gay. The last iranian president claimed there were no gays in Iran.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 03:07 | 6886657 Tall Tom
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No. He claimed that there was no Gay Problem.

 

They dispatch them to Judgment for sodomy in Iran.

 

Yes. There are some positive aspects about Sharia Law.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 03:05 | 6886652 Tall Tom
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Here is what Iran does to homosexuals...

 

Look at the pictures, Demdere. LOOK AT IT.

 

http://www.bookwormroom.com/2010/10/27/comparing-islamophobia-to-homopho...

 

Look at them all

 

Yes Sharia Law does have some positive aspects.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:43 | 6885897 matermaker
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I'll kiss your ass if more than 50% of ZH'rs are not a bunch of angry middle age white men not capable of even taking care of themselves.     being xeonophobic and complaining.     i'd love to hear how folks are making a change, up on this site... but, don't ... only pussies bitching.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 23:03 | 6885976 Bananamerican
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shouldn't you be working the alleys right now, saving up for your gender re-assignment surgery?

them fake vulvas aint cheap

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 23:54 | 6886202 joego1
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We are changing the world by pounding on one sorry asshole at a time and Santa put you on the list.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:39 | 6886379 bearwinkle
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Your probably sucking dick for beer money so kissing my ass would be a tip.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:01 | 6886230 xavi1951
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I killed a fine steak on the BBQ and ate it anyway.  Does that count?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 09:08 | 6887076 YouSerious
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Only 30000 a year are killed by guns in US, thats nothing. If it was 1 million then i would say we have a problem. Only 1000 of the 30000 where children and thats barely 50 bus loads. Leftards seem to think a few children dying would make us give up our 2nd amendment rights. 

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:27 | 6885529 Infinite QE
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Can't wait 'til this guy and the transgender wookee are history.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:51 | 6885650 krispkritter
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Is that Michelle or Bruce?  

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:17 | 6885776 matermaker
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you're an asshat without any critical thinking.  would you rather the monkey and the librairian?  or the hillbilly and the dyke?  what the fuck do you do to make your corner of the world better?  other than bitch, buy guns and wave flags on the back of your weak ass truck?

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 23:49 | 6886168 joego1
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I suppose you believe that what you just wrote is critical thinking? Are you typing while you thinking up a steamer right now?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:06 | 6886258 xavi1951
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WTF?  Can you rant in complete sentences? 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 07:49 | 6886942 Refuse-Resist
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How many guns do you have, and are you going to lead the entry stack on the confiscation teams?  Otherswise, you are entitled to shut the fuck up.

Because all these non-armed people are going to tell 90M of us who  aren't afraid to defend ourselves, what we MUST do?

Give me a fucking break.  Somebody above said faith in .gov was like a religion.  Indeed. I talked to man last night who agrees with the president.

He said "I'd rather have a guy come at me with a framing hammer than a pistol".  Him being a carpenter himself (married to a liberal shrew), I said "I wouldn't want you coming at me with a framing hammer, One or two blows and I'd be dead or maimed. I'd have to shoot you".

then I said "murder is already illegal and the shooting in San Bernadina occured with banned weapons in a gun free zone"  He walked off.

Again, the non-gunners have this wierd faith that the magic govenrment can magically sieze ALL EXISTING FIREARMS and make everybody safe.

Asking one of them "how do you plan to do it" is the equivalent of asking a Mormon, Muslinm, or Christian "how did mohammed get on a winged horse?"  Where did Joseph Smith's golden tablets come from"  or "How did Mary get pregnant without semen fertilizing her egg".

Faith buddy.  Anybody remember that comedian from the 80's who's tagline was "FUCK YOU IT'S MAGIC"?

That's what it is. And I dont' believe in magic. I do however believe in Newton's laws of motion, kinetic energy, and thermodynamics. Proveable stuff that.

And I believe that peope without guns can in no way order people with guns to do things.  The world doesn't work that  way and it never has. Those who turn their swords into ploughshares will plow for those with swords. Period.

So I don't fear a magically powerful government being able to do anyting like sieze all firearms any more than I fear a magical bolt of lightning strking me down for blasphemy. 

Belief in magic powers will get you killed if you think you're protected by magic -- such as a ban on certain items, or a regulation/law prohibiting something will prevent it from ever happening.

That's all I'm saying.

 

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:26 | 6885821 TheObsoleteMan
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I'm not all that sure they will be going away, look at Bill and Hillary.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:28 | 6885530 TheReverend
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Here is what our Church sent yesterday to 10,000+ other Church Pastors here in America related to our President: http://eepurl.com/bIIXnj

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:06 | 6885708 Sedaeng
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wow, interesting stuff on your webpage :|

#3 Marine Invasion War Balls:These newly declassified war machines represent a fully autonomous artificial machine intelligent invasion force. The Beast (AQUAINT) will use drop thousands of these balls miles offshore rigged with explosives and gyroscopic machine guns to destroy any enemies on any beach front or urban environment. Using industrial military 3D printers, the enemy [will] mass produce tens of thousands of these drone balls to devastate our Christian defenses during the coming season of calamity. 

*emphasis mine

hhhmmmmmm, so these "christian defenses" that you speak of, is that like top secret stuff that only the govt knows about and is building an army of [Marine Balls] for?  Well, this financial forum does touch on conspiracy topics. *shrugs*

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:15 | 6885763 it aint paranoi...
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Don't pimp your site here, please.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:28 | 6885531 cpgone
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Hill ahead in the general in national polls.

The sheeple and illegals dont post here

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:28 | 6885533 Dinero D. Profit
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Feeling ripe for propaganda today?

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:39 | 6885595 boattrash
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I noticed one thing. After 7 years in office, this is the first time I've heard him lay out ANY strategy. 

Have you seen the rant from Homeland where Quinn lays out ISIS strategy at a briefing? Link below...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct3BsyF64gM

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:30 | 6885534 jm
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In my adult life, I have not felt better about a candidate than Trump.

I have never felt worse about a president than Obama.  I can't even type his name without the taste of vomit in my mouth.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:33 | 6885569 Stormtrooper
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In my adult life, I have never felt better about the states calling an Article V Convention to dramatically reign in, or even terminate the current Federal government.  Nothing could be worse than the current status quo.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:53 | 6885660 NotApplicable
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Oh, just you wait. It's going to get lots worse, regardless of the puppet du jour.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:22 | 6885798 Demdere
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Pardon me while I get crazy at that idea.  Allowing any of the existing set of completely illegitimate politicans to touch the Constitution is very every synnonym of bad and awful and catastrophe-producing we could imagine.

You got it backwards, it isn't the Constitution that died, it is the legitimate government. When we have the legitimacy of the government fixed, the Constitution can again function, and a government based on it live.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 03:14 | 6886669 Tall Tom
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For what purpose does one repeat a failed experiment?

 

To end up with the same result?

 

There are no answers here.

When you look out you don't see in.

There's no way outta here.

When you come in you're in for good.

 

There never was an answer.

 

David Gilmour

 

 

When you look outside for a solution...then you don't seek the solution within.

 

Any solution rests within.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 23:30 | 6886092 greenskeeper carl
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if you think a constitutional convention would make things better rather than dramatically worse, you clearly aren't paying attention. Most of these people who run things will give the government more power, not take it away.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:00 | 6889567 Abaco
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Why do you think they feds will abide by the amendments pushed through article 5 when they ignore the constitution as it is?  The idea thaty there is a nice political solution to the corruption and power of the feds is just silly.  It is good for selling books and building a radio audience but, if you stop to think about it for even a little bit, it should be obvious to everyone how futile the notion is.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:43 | 6885613 Spiritof42
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You'll feel like a fool if he gets in office. (Don't take that as an endorsement of Hillary.)

Since Kennedy was murdered and Nixon railroaded from office, every president since follows the script outlined for them.

 

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:59 | 6885678 jm
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It's always a "lesser of two evils" choice.

Couple of thoughts: Trump is funding his campaign.  He is at least less captive to vested interests than the typical tapeworms that have made politics a career. 

He supports Israel's right to exist.

He thinks the best place for Jihadis is burning in hell.

Carl Icahn as secretary of treasury.  My heart sings at the thought.

 

He is better than the Summer's Eve we have in office now.  God help us if Hillary manages to hobble her decrepit ass in.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:14 | 6885747 RagnarRedux
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I couldn't care less what he thinks about Israel's "right to exist". Instead, the US President should worry about if the US will exist after the ethno-oligarch dual-citizen thugs have gutted it economically/financially and flooded it with third world people. 

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:24 | 6885806 jm
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You think Trump will be worse than any other candidate in your priorities? 

What is needed more than anything is pragmatism. The constitutional convention crowd is in fantasy land. The "Ron Paul for president" crowd has their collective head up the sand.

If there is even the chance of some marginal improvement, why not go for it?

 

 

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 23:34 | 6886098 Spiritof42
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You think Trump will be worse than any other candidate in your priorities? 

You might be young. It took me about twenty years to figure out that elections are a ruse to get voters to think they have control over government. They don't! Once elected, a politician gives in to the pressures of the office. It's either that or bad things happen to him. All that Trump has going for him is that he's more likeable than Hillary. Otherwise, it'll be business as usual.

The situation we are in now have been building up since the Civil War. It has too much social momentum behind it to stop or even slow down. About all that can stop it now is some kind of social breakdown.

Given the choice between two evils, I stopped voting decades ago.


Sun, 12/06/2015 - 23:43 | 6886147 jm
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No vote is going to make all your dreams come true except one for Pedro.

But votes are a statement that some things are worth fighting for.  If you get even marginal improvement by something so easy as a vote, take the leap.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:51 | 6886416 Demdere
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Yes, but wrong focus.

Elections are a dynamic system.  If there are no votes for some position, no politician will try to gain them by moving a position in that direction. So voting is establishing votes for a position, the reason it is more important to vote for losers than for winners.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:14 | 6885755 Tall Tom
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The "lesser of two evils" is a false dillema paradigm.

 

Chossing the lesser of two evils is still a choice for evil.

 

God Almighty will not be mocked and you shall reap as you sow. If you want the lesser of two evils then I will guarantee that you will have the fruits of all evil consume you, and your family, and your dead carcass after it has sucked the life out from your soul.

 

Just because an evil is somehow better than another ecil does not diminsh the evilness one iota.

 

Go right on and keep commiting the sin of idolatry, worshipping your idol, placing your faith and confidence into that which is evil.

 

And idolaters, as you, are condemned to the pit of everlasting fire.

 

Now do the coup d'grace and write that there is NO GOD so that I can forward that political message to 10,000 Christian Ministers so that Trump will lose their support.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:17 | 6885775 it aint paranoi...
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you forgot the sarc. symbol.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:25 | 6885812 jm
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You think Trump will be worse than any other candidate in your priorities? 

What is needed more than anything is pragmatism. The constitutional convention crowd is in fantasy land. The "Ron Paul for president" crowd has their collective head up the sand.

If there is even the chance of some marginal improvement, why not go for it?

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:38 | 6885874 Demdere
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I find it difficult to believe that a candidate that casually tosses out the idea of nuclear weapons is a marginal improvement.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:40 | 6885885 jm
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This is new to me. I am open to re-evaluating my views.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:47 | 6885913 Demdere
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Well, I thought I could back my assertion up, really thought I had seen something to that effect, and now I can't.

So sorry, and thank you for the gentle challenge.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:52 | 6886409 Tall Tom
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He is NOT for Free Markets.

 

"Free trade is terrible. Free trade can be wonderful if you have smart people. But we have stupid people." –Donald Trump

 

He is NOT for small Government and is a spendthrift.

 

"I will build you ... one of the great ballrooms of the world." –Donald Trump, on building a $100 million ballroom at the White House

 

He claims that he is NOT DIFFERENT...

 

"I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I'm more honest and my women are more beautiful." –Donald Trump, while teasing a presidential run in 2000

 

He is a chronic womanizer believing them to be objects rather than human

 

"You know, it really doesn`t matter what [the media] write as long as you`ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass." –Donald Trump

 

He demonstrates that he is not going to be accessible...

 

I will build a great wall. And nobody does walls better than me. Very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border and I will have Mexico pay for that wall.

 

MOST IMPORTANTLY to some Republicans but NOT IMPORTANT AT ALL TO ME

 

Donald Trump is a RINO...a Republican In Name Only...

 

Check this out...HIS VOTER REGISTRATION

 

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2298752-trumpvr2001.html

 

He was a Democrat for EIGHT YEARS.

 

(It really does not make a difference. They are the same party.)

 

Yeah...Go place your faith in that.

 

Knock yerself out thar, ol' buddy.

 


 


Mon, 12/07/2015 - 01:09 | 6886456 Dr. Bonzo
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@Tall Tom

He is NOT for Free Markets.....

He is NOT for small Government and is a spendthrift.....

He claims that he is NOT DIFFERENT.....

 

Missed a big one there dude:

He is NOT Hillary.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 02:03 | 6886524 Tall Tom
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You are right.

 

But he is the FINANCIAL BACKER of Hillary.

 

Maybe not today. But he did back her US Senate run for the US Senate. He did contribute large funds to the Clinton Fundation.

 

While he may not be Hillary he placed her in the position today to be running for Presdent.

 

What is funny is that you do not get it.

 

Back in the very early 1970s David Rockefeller started to groom a future Presidential Candidate named James Earl Carter. In 1976 he positioned his candidate to run against President Gerald Ford with his brother, Vice President Nelson Rockfeller, as Ford's running mate.

 

No matter what the outcome of the Selection was David Rockefeller would have direct access to the White House and to American Political Policy.

 

Just where did Jimmy Carter come from? You never asked that question, right?

 

Where did Obama come from?

 

It is the same Selection process going on currently.

 

And you continue to blindly support it?

 

Give me a break. He is buying the Presidency. Either way he wins.

 

You ever read Antony Sutton's book about the Trilateral Commission??

 

The problem IS THAT NOBODY DOES THEIR HOMEWORK.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:22 | 6886314 Kelley
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Never take any option off the table. It gets the enemy to behave better.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:54 | 6886421 Kelley
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Never take any option off the table. It gets the enemy to behave better.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:21 | 6886311 Kelley
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Don't pay any attention to that clown. I real life he probably stands on street corners loooking for nickels.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 02:08 | 6886585 Tall Tom
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In real life I have the luxury of sitting here, online, and shredding statists as yourself.

 

Come on over. Let's go hunting.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:23 | 6885794 conscious being
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Choice? What if they only count your vote when they feel like it? How is that when everything else to do with finance, major media and government is corrupt, voting not corrupted?

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:25 | 6885820 jm
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You think Trump will be worse than any other candidate in your priorities? 

What is needed more than anything is pragmatism. The constitutional convention crowd is in fantasy land. The "Ron Paul for president" crowd has their collective head up the sand.

If there is even the chance of some marginal improvement, why not go for it?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 02:05 | 6886544 Tall Tom
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Because there is no chance.

 

Participation just serves to yield validity to that which is invalid.

 

You serve as a useful stooge to legitamize that which is not legitimate.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:16 | 6885736 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Even a former president of the United States, Jimmy Carter, has openly and explicitly described your country as an oligarchy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsPWmioSHg

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:40 | 6885881 MalteseFalcon
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I don't know if President Carter said this explicitly, but your country is a puppet state.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 23:51 | 6886188 atthelake
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I request ZH give us more stories about oligarchs and who pulls the strings.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 02:41 | 6886616 Tall Tom
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REQUEST FULFILLED.

 

You need to do a web search for Antony C. Sutton for a in depth study.

 

Many of his volumes of work are free for download.

 

Here is a good start.

 

https://www.google.com/#q=antony+c+sutton+books+pdf

 

It will be an eye opener.

 

Antony Sutton was a Professor of Economics at California State University at Los Angeles (???) and a Visiting Scholar at the highly esteemed Hoover Research Institute at Stanford University.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_C._Sutton

 

He was not a "Conspiracy Theorist Tinfoil Hatted crackpot."

 

http://www.antonysutton.com/

 

Oh. Oh. Now where did I put my Gold Foiled Hat?

 

Damn.

 

It works much better than the Tin Foil ones. And they say that there are no uses for Gold. Hogwash!!!

 

Science Damnit. Oh I found it.

 

Well...Now that is settled...This exploration  will require a lot of READING on your part.

 

But do not be influenced by a lowbrow as myself...

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 02:23 | 6886551 Tall Tom
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Yes he did.

 

And Jimmah Ca'ter should know as David Rockefeller placed him into the Presidency.

 

And as to the state of his own Government? That is a NON SEQUITUR Logical Fallacy in this discussion.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:05 | 6885713 Tall Tom
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People as yourself are the cause for Presidents like Obama.

 

No you may not have voted for Obama.

 

But Trump has supported the Clinton Foundation and supported Hillary's run for the New York Senate.

 

Trump is the person who promoted Hillary's Political Goals.

 

And all of the downarrows in the World will not change that truth by any measure whatsoever.

 

YOU are the problem.

 

 

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:11 | 6885737 jm
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Sorry for being such a burden.

I do get stuck with a disproportionate share of the bill, so please cut me some slack.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:19 | 6885788 Tall Tom
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You financially support it.

 

Financial support IS SUPPORT.

 

You fucking support Government. YOU. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

 

No slack.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:26 | 6885823 jm
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Sorry, I thought you were rational.  Carry on, fool.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:32 | 6885856 Miffed Microbio...
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I do too Tom though I hate to admit it. They get 100k from me every year. If I were single and had the freedom I would change it but I have a responsibility to my family so I'm trapped.

Someday, when I am replaced by a robot, I may have the last laugh on the matter.

Miffed;-)

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:58 | 6886435 Tall Tom
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Isn't that wonderful?

 

Did ya get my response on that Oblameo speech thread?

 

I hope that Mister Miffed is recovering well.

 

Glad to see you here...although I expected it.

 

You did take the damned Red Pill after all.

 

Check out some Toltec by Jon Anderson to sooth your nerves. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU1K-9OISM4

 

I know that you will love it.

 

All my love to the both of you.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 01:54 | 6886567 Miffed Microbio...
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Thank you my dearest. The way I look at it is I am rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's and God what is God's but I do get a tad crotchety about it sometimes. I wish I were purer of heart.

We are celebrating Mr's recovery and his steroid use is down. We have hope. I am living in the moment now and not worrying about the future so much. Really, it is so pointless, as if I have power over any of this? It is being manipulated by fear and doubt of my own capabilities.

Point me to the thread and thanks for the link. ;-)

Yours always,

Miffed;-)

P.S. I was stargazing a while ago and thought of you.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 02:20 | 6886601 Tall Tom
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-06/previewing-obamas-800-pm-speech...

 

You will understand.

 

I hope that you use the Telescope.

 

The Orion Nebula is spectacular.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:16 | 6886292 Kelley
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Shouldn't you be doing some homework, or leaving your older sister alone?

 

No government - anarchy - is the worst of all worlds.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:43 | 6886392 ForTheWorld
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No government and humans with no moral compass - most likely. Otherwise, I don't think anyone can be sure, because when has such a situation existed?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:57 | 6886431 Kelley
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There is a reason why true anarchy hasn't been tried - no one can sleep at night because they are always worried someone will knock them on the head.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 01:11 | 6886464 Tall Tom
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That is why it worked in Iceland...for over 400 years...until they were overrun.

 

https://mises.org/library/medieval-iceland-and-absence-government

 

I am a 56 year old man. You can come visit if you like. I enjoy HUNTING. 

 

Here is my name and address.

 

Thomas H. O'Brien

12223B Woodside Avenue

Lakeside, CA USA

 

You must understand that I have done my homework many, many years ago...and I continue to study and explore.

 

Being a scientist I am naturally inquisitive and enjoy challenge and exploration. Physics is fun after all.

 

So instead of your ad hominems, hiding because you live in FEAR...which I cannot even understand at this point...why don't you check out something new.

 

You can even run a Criminal History. I have given you more than enough information.

 

I use Tall Tom as my username as IT IS MY NAME in this community.

 

If you get lost then ask the homeless. They will direct you.

 

I do not believe in hiding and I believe that most of you scared little sheep are actually harmless.

 

The worst that you can do is send me to Heaven. That ain't such a bad deal.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 01:20 | 6886491 Tall Tom
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You think that most people lack a Moral Compass?

 

Au contrare.

 

Actually 80% of the people have a Moral Compass. Now 15% are questionable and under stress will violate acceptable behacior. And 5% are just downright EVIL.

 

You'd do better to change your set of friends if you believe otherwise as you have surrounded yourself with that 5%.

 

Even in San Diego County, California, where I live we have a population of 2 Million. You know that 5% of 2 Million is 100,000 people? We have a population of 50,000 who are in jails here.

 

That means that 50,000 are outside and on the loose. And we have 5000 Law Enforcement Agents that are outnumbered roughly 10 to 1.

 

It is challenging.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 23:07 | 6885986 Spiritof42
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Trump is the person who promoted Hillary's Political Goals.

I strongly suspect he's running as a stalking horse for Hillary. If I'm right, it's a question of timing when he pulls out.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 23:21 | 6886059 jm
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This guy has way too much ego to quit knowing he is on the cusp of winning.  

 

 

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 23:39 | 6886129 joego1
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Very possible

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 01:48 | 6886556 Tall Tom
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Extremely probable.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 10:56 | 6887596 Seraphin
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“You know what Bill, fuck it. I’m gonna run till the end and beat your wife, so to speak”

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:28 | 6885536 hcho3
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Currently, this situation is worse than 9/11. 

These lone wolf attacks could happen anywhere and anytime. We don't have any plans to stop these attacks for good. 

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:34 | 6885572 atthelake
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My plan to to tell everyone to get a gun, take the courses and practice, practice, practice. 

If you wait for traitorous leaders to tell you what to do, you are lost.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:53 | 6885653 RiverRoad
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Even easier:  Round up the scoundrals and ship 'em out.  The FBI knows who they are.  Keep shippin' 'til they stop shootin'.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:25 | 6885815 conscious being
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If the FBI ships out all the scoundrels, who will be left to run our government?

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:30 | 6885841 RiverRoad
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Exactly.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:23 | 6886319 Max Cynical
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The average national 911 response time is 11 minutes.

Police are not the first responders...anyone facing an imminent threat is.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 08:03 | 6886956 Refuse-Resist
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That's the only plan that can possibly work. The 2nd Amendment is America's original homeland security.

Well other than deporting every goddamn one of them and setting bounties on those who refuse to leave volunatarily.

We have a ways to go before we get there. Political correctness needs to die first. And it will when people get hungry.

When the cities burn there won't be any more PC. Liberals will have a change of heart, become slaves, or die.

So your plan is the best plan. I follow it myself, and from the ambient noises I'm hearing round these parts, so are lots of other Americans.

 

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:40 | 6885579 Demdere
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'worse than 9/11'?  A false flag attack managed by our government under the control of Israeli-neocons?  The one that killed 3K people? Where 250 of those were the airplane passengers who were landed at some airport somewhere and gassed, bodies dumped in a pit and covered?  Pilots and hijackers too.

Worse than that 9/11, the criminals who did it are still in office around the world?

How is it worse?

Both were gun-free zones, btw.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:26 | 6885825 conscious being
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hcho3 was busy dancing that day.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:40 | 6885589 tarabel
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I have one. We drop a brigade down on the Kaaba and keep them well-supplied with machine gun ammunition and bulldozer fuel until the tide stops coming in.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:51 | 6885629 curbjob
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"Currently, this situation is worse than 9/11. 

These lone wolf attacks could happen anywhere and anytime. We don't have any plans to stop these attacks for good. "

 

... because the "why" is never asked and, when it is, those curious are immediately labeled as antisemitic. 

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 23:42 | 6886139 RevIdahoSpud3
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It's not worse than 911 it is exactly alike. The same fuckers who engineered 911 are the ones generating the false flag attacks with the idea that through fear we will beg the .gov to "keep us safe"! LOL. Dark elements of the .gov are the ones pulling the triggers.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:29 | 6885537 spanish inquisition
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All the things a dictator would want to consolidate power and it will protect us from terrorism!

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:29 | 6885538 nocommiesworld
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control, control, control, ... , `FREEDOM IS MORE POWERFUL THAN FEAR'

...

 

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:29 | 6885539 nocommiesworld
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control, control, control, ... , `FREEDOM IS MORE POWERFUL THAN FEAR'

...

 

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:29 | 6885543 Yen Cross
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 Trump could say ANYTHING, and it would be right... He should just compile information, and let the "tards" eat themsleves.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:30 | 6885544 heisenberg991
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Trump will use nukes to destroy ISIS....OMG

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:09 | 6886270 Kelley
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Correction: Trump will use Russia's nukes to destroy ISIS by looking the other way when Putin pulls the trigger.

More likely however is that ISIS will be wiped out by Russia's S400 and the like, and Iran will finish off the strays. No need for nukes.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 08:10 | 6886962 Refuse-Resist
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What about all the DU dropped by American forces in Iraq and the former Yugoslavia?

Is depleted uranium contamination ultimately any different? Other than its immense half-life and the fact that when a DU round contacts metal (such as tank armor) it instantly vaporizes and spreads nano particulates of cancer causing uranium dust all aroundt the target vehicle.

GENIUS!  We can salt the earth and wage a stealth nuclear war and the liberals will think we're spreding democracy and protecting the children, and the warhawking RINOS can cheer their victories.

Want to end a conversation with some Israel-firsters real quick? Mention DU and birth defects.

Polite AFYs (AMerica FUCK YEAHs) don't like to discuss that, drone attacks, or Gitmo.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:31 | 6885550 atthelake
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And, still, we do nothing.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:32 | 6885557 pocomotion
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The guy BUNTED tonight.  He does mean to win our guns.  There is always multiple games going on politically, so stay tuned.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:32 | 6885559 Deus ex faculta
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I'll just leave this here: http://i.imgur.com/f8hnKOl.jpg

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:48 | 6885636 bobdog54
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Tells all...

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:29 | 6885836 conscious being
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Powerful and true. Very good.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:37 | 6885869 DirkDiggler11
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So, that two butt cheeks and Obumma is speaking out his ass ???

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:33 | 6885564 hcho3
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Why can't someone just put strict limitations on people traveling to middle east... 

That's the only way this will slow down. 

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:38 | 6885590 Demdere
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Sure, just give the same bunch of power players more power to fix the problem they caused. Yeah, I can see how that would lead to no end of the problems.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:31 | 6885842 conscious being
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Shutting down travel from the ME would not work. Mossad would still find a way in.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:42 | 6885609 atthelake
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They want this, all, to happen. The solution will not come from American "leaders" who have, almost all, turned against the people.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:21 | 6885791 it aint paranoi...
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"Why can't someone just put strict limitations on people traveling to middle east..."

 

Perhaps one way tickets instead?

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:33 | 6885565 I Write Code
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A dozen different points?  I thought this guy was the great communicator.  This was a guy thrashing in shallow water.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:35 | 6885576 booboo
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All the while the Federal Government is the biggest supplier of guns to terrorist on the planet, yea go fuck yourselves. Now more than ever Americans need to arm up, we have a rogue federal government hell bent on enslaving us.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:32 | 6885848 conscious being
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Sure looks that way.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 00:28 | 6886342 Max Cynical
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Marco Rubio's First TV Ad: A Civilizational Struggle

"They're attacking us because we allow women to drive and go to school."

Are you FUCKING kidding me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXmMl0_RnXg

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 08:11 | 6886967 Refuse-Resist
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The churchies and fauxnews viewers eat that shit up like candy.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:38 | 6885591 SillySalesmanQu...
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More Sunday night speeches...?! That is a terrorist act right there...Arrest him!

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:39 | 6885594 Fox-Scully
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Here's the scariest part of tonight's speech--BREAKING: Obama warns of more Sunday night speeches if ISIS not defeated

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:40 | 6885596 atthelake
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Trump wants war. That makes him a warmonger just like the rest of them.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:11 | 6885733 atthelake
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That many down arrows indicates Trump will win but, I fear, these desperate people have locked into Trump the same way others have locked into Obama.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:12 | 6885746 atthelake
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Desperate people do desperate things.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:40 | 6885600 SmedleyButlersGhost
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JHow did this non US nigger become the POTUS? NSA fuk you. This is just fuking ridiculous. did I mention I' m brewing my own /beer/ truth ? Hic?

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:45 | 6885621 Bunghole
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Reflux column.

Gets you there quicker.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:59 | 6885602 ThrowAwayYourTV
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Geesh! Moms and dads, Daughters and sons, American families. Who wrote this speech anyway, Micky Mouse? Not Obama for sure. Geesh.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:43 | 6885611 gregga777
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So, Obama didn't announce his resignation from the Presidency effective immediately. The only reason that I would ever listen to one of his speeches is to hear him resign.

Listening to the Liar Of The United States (LOTUS) is a waste of time. The love of decency does not abide within Obama. The love of truth does not abide within Obama. The love of country—that country being America—does not abide within Obama.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:44 | 6885614 Hongcha
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We in Kalifornia are also waiting for Gov. Brown and especially his Lt. Gov. to unveil their plans.  Ban on .223 and/or other calibers is not impossible.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:57 | 6885675 Fester
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They can have the .223 and I'll give them a couple of .50 BMG.  

 

I will not be a slave.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:44 | 6885615 A Lunatic
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Having a bunch of guns and ammunition makes you a Terrorist.......

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:49 | 6885622 izzee
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apparently the New New New Word is "self radicalized".

In the after "discussion" on NPR this phrase was used several times by several different people.

Also our "surveillance" has been focused on looking for BIG COORDINATED EVENTS, and that is why "we missed this...and Paris too"

Neither of these was in the speach...but these seem to be a couple of the Talking Points that somehow got into the "minds" of the Media Commentators.....At least on NPR  

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:35 | 6885862 V for ...
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NPR: National Prozac Radio.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:45 | 6885624 One And Only
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"President Barack Obama says the American Muslim community needs to be a partner in the fight against radical Islam."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:46 | 6885625 Thenardier
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jimmy carter ca 1979

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:46 | 6885626 gregga777
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The Federal government illegally maintains a database of everyone who seeks to purchase a firearm through the network of Federal Firearm Licensees to facilitate seizure of firearms from their legal owners to prevent opposition to the totalitarian police state.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:46 | 6885627 bookofenoch
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Dang. I thought sure he'd blame it on the "Innocence of Muslims" Benghazi excuse and then jail the director.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:47 | 6885632 The Magus
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Good speech!

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:13 | 6885750 NoWayJose
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Cuz it was short and he didn't say anything important?

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 23:10 | 6886007 Atomizer
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Never arrived to a solution. Just the the GOP / Democratic establishment. I'll share a old tidbit from Canada. 

2015 North American Union | What Comes Next? |Paul McGuire ...

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:47 | 6885634 izzee
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Self Radicalized....DRINK

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:12 | 6885743 RiverRoad
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"Self Radicalized" ...... you get a free ride home.

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 21:48 | 6885637 jakesdad
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ok, this may not make me popular but it was better than I expected (granted, not a particularly high bar) - it was 85% isis, only 5% gun control (to which I'm not categorically opposed but using the no-fly list is probably NOT the best way to bolster credibility), 5% renewed attack on 4th ammendment & 5% boilerplate bs.  by bho standards I'd give it a solid b, maybe b+

 

now whether any of it actually HAPPENS?...  not holding my breath (though putin's involvement gives me some hope)

Sun, 12/06/2015 - 22:02 | 6885699 ThrowAwayYourTV
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Dont get excited! He just read a speech written by a speech writer.

Wake up, will you.

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