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New Photo Emerges Of California Mass Shooters Entering The US

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On Friday, the world got its first look at Tashfeen Malik who, along with her husband Syed Rizwan Farook, stormed a San Bernardino county employee holiday party killing 14 and wounding 21. 

Here is her Pakistan ID card:

Both suspects were killed in a subsequent shootout with police and in the wake of the tragedy, the FBI revealed that Malik pledged allegiance to ISIS leader Bakr al-Baghdadi on Facebook while the attack was in progress. 

We documented what’s known about Malik’s past on Saturday. Here’s a brief recap

As Reuters reports, Malik “was from Karor Lal Esan, a city on the west coast of the Indus River in southern Punjab province.” She had been living in Saudi Arabia with her father for 25 years. Pakistani officials note that “the area in Punjab where she spent her early years and later went to university is a 'recruitment ground' and stronghold of Islamist groups with ties to al Qaeda.” 

 

The LA Times calls Malik's family "educated [and] politically influential." "Residents said the Aulakh family is known to have connections to militant Islam," the paper continues before citing a local as saying that "the family has some extremist credentials," whatever that means. 

 

In any event, when her father moved to Saudi Arabia, “he changed a lot,” Malik's uncle, Javed Rabbani, says. "When relatives visited him, they would come back and tell us how conservative and hardline he had become.” Reuters goes on to say that the Saudi government had no information linking her to terrorist organizations. 

Farook brought Malik back to the US after marrying her in Saudi Arabia. On Monday, ABC released a picture taken as the couple moved through customs at Chicago O’Hare on July 27, 2014. Here's the image:

While Malik looks similar to the other images that have made the rounds, Farook's appearance differs rather noticeably from the DMV picture circulated last week. 

While we were the first to mock co-workers' contention that Farook's radicalization could be confirmed by the size of his beard, we would note that although you cannot judge a book by its cover, it does indeed appear as though some manner of transformation might have taken place in or around Farook's two visits to Saudi Arabia. Indeed, US authorities now say that "initial evidence gathered by counterterrorism investigators suggests Ms. Malik may have had a stronger bond than her husband to jihadist ideology," WSJ reports

It's "a very real possibility" the attack was instigated by Malik, unnamed officials say, adding the Farook was just a man "looking for answers." 

Maybe. Or maybe it's just more convenient to blame the "radical" Saudi/Pakistani wife than it is to admit that a Chicago-born public health inspector was so disillusioned with his life in America that he turned to radical Islam before embarking on a murderous rampage.

 

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Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:40 | 6888175 Chuckster
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Fireman! 

You are right and it makes me sick to accept the fact that you are right.  The only thing we can do is lean back and watch....how sad.

The nuts are in charge...we are the helpless minority.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:23 | 6887754 css1971
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Sorry, I'm having trouble getting past the nose.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:23 | 6887756 kingvaclav
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A Finishing Touch: the Corpse of Syed Farooq

http://winteractionables.com/?p=28312

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:04 | 6887994 zeroaccountability
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His eye is frozen open like that because he looked upon the medusa.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:24 | 6887760 jakesdad
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eh, there's some beard density difference but it's not night & day.  plus, I would assume if you're in saudia arabia & anyone notices a decrease in your beard density it lands you in hot water (I'm agnostic & I damn sure wouldn't shave if/while I was there!  I probably wouldn't for a couiple wks before too just to be safe).

 

obviously he WAS radicalized & almost certainly there but I'd wager a fairly expensive dinner that few men return from saudi arabia w/thinner beards than they left with (if I were in customs that would probably be a bigger red flag than thicker).

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:27 | 6887778 BendGuyhere
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LOL-They both look SO happy to be back in the USA, where they can finally breathe the fresh air of freedumb...

He's doing his best Malcolm X: newly radicalized and utterly disgusted.......Ahhhh-the moral superiority of islam: truly amazing.

Also-next time you see a muzzy female wearing a bag over her head and body, check out her ankles. Holy crap-these females have the sexiest damn ankles anywere. REALLY. CHECK IT OUT. DO IT FOR JESUS.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:35 | 6888489 Dinero D. Profit
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"Do it for Jesus'..... very funny.

(Actually, Muslim women wear the sexiest Victoria Secrets' panties, bras and such.  Check out any laundermat.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:28 | 6887786 Caveman93
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Good looking Irish couple there!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:30 | 6887797 venturen
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manSo this is what "Islamic virgins"  look like?  I wouldn't be committing suicide anytime soon. What a gruesome way to spend eternity! 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:32 | 6887800 1stepcloser
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Damn she must of been able to suck up all the white mans air with that honker....BTW thier CIA handler needs to center the photo next time

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:31 | 6887801 EddieLomax
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Why does the report say that they turned to "Radical" Islam, I follow a literal interpretation of the UK law, does that make me a radical too?

If they were truly radical then they would have found a peaceful interpretation of the Quran, maybe one that does not even allow marrying children.  Although being that radical would find them guilty of "innovation", which is specifically an Islamic crime and punishable by, you guessed it, death.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 16:25 | 6889366 Berspankme
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I saw a report that Obama has radicalized Nancy Pelosi and Debbie Wasserstein Schulz

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:31 | 6887808 Sizzurp
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When are we going to learn?  These people really need to be somewhere in the ME.  We need a constitutional amendment to ban the hateful religion that is Islam. It's like a death cult that was founded by a warlord under force of the sword.  Our founders never had Islam in mind when they wrote the first amendment.  The ideals of Islam are completely opposed to the US Constitution.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:32 | 6887815 Omega_Man
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anyone with a beard is now radical.... 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:39 | 6887853 Skiprrrdog
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She would have looked good in a beard...that covered here entire face. Maybe Moochelle can help her wit dat...

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:36 | 6887835 mijev
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She gives me a woody.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:12 | 6888024 Pol Pot
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I think they call those Porkies

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:37 | 6887837 loregnum
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So a witness says 3 tall white men, the authorities at the time said they were looking for 3 white men, other "evidence" that doesn't make sense (including the seemingly staged car chase) and now we are told this woman went on facebook to make the ISIS connection as she was allegedly shooting people with an assault rifle because hey, people always go on facebook when they are taking part in mass shootings. Gotcha

I wonder just what it'd take before the moronic sheeple believe something is bullshit.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:55 | 6887948 InnVestuhrr
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I saw a report from the middle east that said these false reports on who the perpetrators were, eg 3 white guys, is part of the islamic cult's strategy and tactics to foster confusion, uncertainty and doubt about USA media and government reports. Report said that islamic cult leaders have trained fifth-columnists to make postings on USA web sites to foster conspiracy specualtions on false flag attacks, blame israel, etc, and that this propaganda would be picked up by the large population of idiots and retransmitted.
Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:10 | 6888018 Pol Pot
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Really...ISIL had a stooge in the building giving an interview to CBS
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/witness-describes-the-san-bernardino-shoot...

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:36 | 6887839 Son of Captain Nemo
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To "Binny" and "Bath House"

From Russia with love!

P.S.

I'm waiting!!!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:38 | 6887849 SethDealer
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TSA was busy patting down a nun while these two muslim skanks walked through

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:18 | 6888395 Wahooo
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Or my 3 year old son. That actually happened!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:51 | 6891613 RiverRoad
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And my cat.  That actually happened too.  MY CAT...the terrorist!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:44 | 6887887 zenon
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So, are they carrying AK47's under their robes? Or are the pictures not allowed to reveal?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:59 | 6887967 pelican
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They were probaly up this skanks vag.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:55 | 6887951 PoasterToaster
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What happened to their baby?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:41 | 6888182 Caleb Abell
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With luck, the baby will be adopted by a Lubavitch Jewish family who will move to Israel where the baby will grow up and join the IDF.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:00 | 6887965 Robert.Paulson
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What's really funny is. It is wirtten..

He get's 72 virgins, specially made for him by ALLAH!

She, meets her husband. ROFLMAO!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:00 | 6887972 MrBoompi
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Nobody denies these people flew into the United States.  Why publish a photo like this?  At least we can see the relative heights of both of them.  OK.  Now let us see a few of the video tapes from the shooting incident to see if the shooters' heights and builds match these two.  Can they please provide some actual evidence these two committed the crime?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 15:05 | 6888942 1223pm
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Please be patient. Hollywood is working on it.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 15:38 | 6888943 1223pm
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Duplicate

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 15:05 | 6888944 1223pm
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Please be patient. Hollywood is working on it.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:01 | 6887976 Grandad Grumps
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Isn't PhotoShop great!?!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:04 | 6887995 Pol Pot
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I still can not seem to see the resemblance to a tall athletic white mall? Three of them.....
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/witness-describes-the-san-bernardino-shoot...

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:01 | 6888244 ZD1
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An "eyewitness" account by a woman with a Muslim last name like Abdelmageed should always be believed?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:58 | 6888609 samsara
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Getting a little shrill with that aren't we?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:04 | 6887997 moonmac
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TRUMP: Muslim Terrorists will only be shown as Pig Caricatures in the media for now on and they will be buried inside pig carcasses displayed behind glass for all Americans to see. Islamic terrorism will stop and the animals will be forced to use political measures to bring Sharia Law to the USA.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:08 | 6888008 Segestan
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Three white males.........

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:55 | 6888257 ZD1
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So says an "eyewitness" with the Muslim last name of Abdelmageed

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:10 | 6888012 zeroaccountability
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They used her face for the model of the Sphinx.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:16 | 6888041 RevIdahoSpud3
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That doesn't look like 3 tall white guys, very athletic, dressed in all black paramilitary gear? It must be the camera angle? On the other hand were these photos retrieved from the album titled "Patsy's Anonymous" or "Setups International". If so, yeah, these are the killers. Move along now, case solved.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:59 | 6888283 ZD1
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Yep, no doubt whitey did it.  We can always believe the "eyewitness" account of someone with the Muslim last name of Abdelmageed.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:18 | 6888049 idontcare
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.... and blonde haired,blue eyed, 6 ft, 50 y/o + well dressed female professional ME gets detained with a complimentary strip down every time I go through a major hub.   Is anyone still wondering what the Federal Government's agenda is in this country?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:19 | 6888056 insanelysane
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Haven't seen video of them entering or leaving the facility they shot up.  My workplace and most other places of business have cameras.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:28 | 6888107 NoWayJose
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If we don't see that then it signals false flag or cover up.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:58 | 6888277 the grateful un...
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you know they have the video but the perps wore masks, still if you do a careful analysis you can match them up on height and stature.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:45 | 6888842 Joke Heros
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Local soCA news reported that the facility manager of the building (during an interview) denies any sort of surveillance at the building, which is only about 7 years old. Funny eh?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:22 | 6888076 Bloodstock
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I call bullshit!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:59 | 6888280 G.O.O.D
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Silence!!! I kill you.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:24 | 6888090 Jethro
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"Well I met her in a mosque down in Pakistan
Where I payed for her dowry
and put a ring on her calloused hand Malik, M-M-Malik

She walked up to me and she asked me to pray
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice
She said Malik, M-A-L-I-K, Malik, M-M-Malik

Well, I'm not the world's most physical guy
But when she squeezed me tight she nearly broke my spine
Oh my Malik, M-M-Malik

Well, I'm not dumb but I can't understand
Why she walked like a woman but smelled like a goat
Oh my Malik, M-M-Malik

Well, we made pipe bombs and prayed all night
Under electric candlelight
She picked me up and sat me on her knee
And said, "Dear boy, won't you come jihad with me?"

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:25 | 6888095 VladLenin
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Obama: She could have been my daughter.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:27 | 6888102 Jethro
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Obama: She could have been my daughter son.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:15 | 6888103 NoWayJose
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The witness reports seeing three white men dressed in black. I thought they could just be cops - but then she added 'tall and athletic' - so I knew it had to be Spec Ops and not donut chomping cops!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:29 | 6888114 samsara
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Try to separate the fact that they knew and were tracking these two, and the shootings.

The US watches and monitors EVERYONE coming and going, and who did the shooting.  THey knew these two, They issued the guns.

How many nut jobs like this are out there?  Many probably.  and EACH one is tailed, monitored and coached to a point. 

That is a fact.  BUT.  They MAY NOT be the one's doing the shooting.

All the videos showing the shooting of the actual perps will be seen right after the videos from the cameras at the pentagon are made public.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:33 | 6888137 Charles Offdensen
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Would ZH make up its mind please! Is it terrorism or false flag? Playing both sides of the narrative is giving you less credibility by the day. One days it's questioning the narrative to believing it to mocking the terrorists radicalization to promoting a witness that says it was three white guys to well I guess they really are terrorists.

I can deal with the loonies in the comment section but you doing it makes some not want to trust anything you write. Is it Tyler Jones now? Alex Durden?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 16:26 | 6889373 css1971
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How about they just publish what they find and let you decide? Hmm? Or do you need to be spoon fed the opinion that you're supposed to have?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:45 | 6888173 L Bean
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Bullshit bullshit bullshite. We still don't know "who" these people were, their motivations, anything about the husband's supposed "radicalization"....their ties to the FBI or other alphabet agencies, nor their actual status according to these agencies(and they'd never tell).

I'll take a pass on what Rita Katz, "ISIS", and curiously, subsequently, what anonymous "US officials" via Reuters and The LA Times have to say about the intentions and motivations of this doomed couple. 

 

Have we already forgotten their lawyer's contention that they were found handcuffed in the back of that SUV?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:53 | 6888252 the grateful un...
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they routinely handcuff people who are shot, of course we know who these people were, he worked for county health. as for all the speculative connections, the media can't spell al qaeda the same way twice. they found guns and ammo, its 99% wrapped up tight. its just the dumbest terror attack ever, shooting up the company picnic. strange indeed

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:06 | 6888327 L Bean
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The lawyer said they were found dead and handcuffed inside the SUV, implying imo that the death scene which we "see" was staged for some reason. They would have been dragged out and then handcuffed, the cops wouldn't have climbed in and done it first, given the explosives threat especially.

There was a marked exasperation in the lawyer's tone, or a fear. Whatever it was it had him very highly strung.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:10 | 6888351 ZD1
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We should always believe lawyers.

 

/s

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:13 | 6888374 L Bean
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A small-time lawyer's candid behavior can be revealing in these cases. The lawyers for the rich OTOH...

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:00 | 6888287 Bloodstock
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Yeah so were they handcuffed and then shot or shot and then handcuffed? Either way it's fucking bullshit. Whole thing probably never happened except on some Hollywood style set. How the hell do we know, we weren't there and the MSM are proven liars!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:01 | 6888269 falak pema
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Ali Baba and one of his wine jars!

...So thought the smart ass at Homeland security.

"Welcome to the USA we love your presence at the roulette table. Spend every penny and America will love you moar."

Russian roulette is what they played!

Unless those three tall men she said she saw hit again like Walking dead.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:58 | 6888276 lauramalter
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I know right after I gave birth to my first child, and was still breastfeeding a six month old infant, the only thing I had on my mind was radicalizing my husband, building pipe bombs and shooting all his co-workers.

5 minutes in - Carly Florida spills the beans about the ownership of 2 of the weapons found on the accused attacker were purchased by the police: http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/fiorina--this-is-an-unspeakable-tragedy-578563651880 Eyewitness who saw attackers enter the building;  3 shooters, tall, white: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwTYja7GXcY Eyewitness’ father, stating 3 shooters came in … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq1krY2Q4Jc Eyewitness who saw three white men leave the scene in black clothing, black vehicle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s45OeXNRZng Police Radio Transmissions:  at 5:05 into the transmission, 3rd suspect on the run. Listen for the "Stand Down" that occurs during the shooting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6U3v1AB7-I Third person in custody being interrogated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgXjPQXwpc0 Not that I would ever trust an attorney, but the families attorney who sat with the FBI for hours where apparently they couldn’t find a motive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51h_o8y4GpA Other eyewitness accounts: On-screen tagline - reports suspects were wearing GoPro cameras at 1:50 into this interview, GoPro packaging was found in either the Lexus or the SUV, yet police say no GoPro camera was found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGKCi7Vf_A0 Less than 48 hours after the shooting, the landlord opens the apartment to hundreds of reporters to turn into a circus, and the FBI approves the decimation of the “crime scene”.  Be sure and watch the CNN legal analyst stating that this is heresy in the legal world. http://www.businessinsider.com/reporters-san-bernardino-shooting-suspects-home-2015-12

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:07 | 6888331 samsara
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Thankyou Laura for all the work of listing all those nagging detail.

Remember everyone.  SNAG or copy or record everything the first few minutes of one of these events.  Before the story line is stablized.

Like "5 minutes in - Carly Florida spills the beans about the ownership of 2 of the weapons found on the accused attacker were purchased by the police:"

Many of these details will evaporate and are gone quickly.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:16 | 6888371 ZD1
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MSNBC is such an unbiased news source and we should always believe someone with a Muslim last name of Abdelmageed who claims that three white men did it.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 15:17 | 6888929 I-am-not-one-of-them
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the US thought it a good idea to have Hasbara trolls of their own to do their own "explaining", so hired a PR firm to populate the internet with 5000 "explainers" to obfuscate public opinion

Zerohedge certainly have a few here, but they sway no opinions, rather they solidify their culpability

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:04 | 6889591 ZD1
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And you're one of the paid trolls for your Islamic dog masters.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 15:03 | 6888930 I-am-not-one-of-them
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duplicate

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:29 | 6888459 Chuckster
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Lauramalter! 

Hat's off to you!  I don't know how you came up with your tag line(Lauramalter) but you have one hell of an IQ.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:26 | 6888752 lauramalter
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I think the official, pre-planned narrative fell apart when the shill didn't show up to the "capture event" with two Muslim friends, and instead showed up with his wife.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:06 | 6888329 ZD1
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Rolling Stone is your source? The rag that made up the bogus University of Virginia fraternity rape story?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:11 | 6888360 samsara
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Thanks.  Try a new tactic. 

25 rules of disinformation.

#4

#5

#17

#18

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:19 | 6888382 ZD1
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You know and practice every one of those rules of disinformation.  It's not working. Try a new tactic.

Who's paying to sit on your fat ass and post your bullshit?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:21 | 6888412 jomama
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It's a lot easier to sit from the peanut gallery and just denounce everything. Stick with the government's official story. It seems more your speed.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:27 | 6888440 ZD1
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It's a lot easier to sit from the peanut gallery and pretend that you know what happened when you don't. Stick with some Muslim woman's story that three white men did it. It seems more your speed. Now go put on a clean burqa.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:30 | 6888461 samsara
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WHo's voting you up?  Unix?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:33 | 6888473 ZD1
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Yo skanky momma voted me up. bitch.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:19 | 6888398 samsara
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Each one of those stories were from a different source,  take your pick, or google it yourself. 

Or maybe that wasn't your intent by replying..... troll

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:09 | 6888462 ZD1
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Radical leftist anarchist sources like the one from Occupy.com (funded by George Soros) that you posted?

We should always believe every biased lunatic source posted by someone with an agenda?

Only a fucking troll like you would do that.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 15:29 | 6889042 r0mulus
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Nice work, trying to stick him with the "troll" tag!

Just kidding, it's obvious it is you who is either an idiot or a troll.

Just to help you out a bit, since you don't seem to know how this works, in a debate, you make an assertion and then present what we call evidence to support your assertion. Evidence usually comes in the form of documents, photos, or video that contains information relevant to the assertion.

Calling people names, however, is a logical fallacy and usually signals that you have lost the debate.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:13 | 6889576 ZD1
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"Calling people names, however, is a logical fallacy and usually signals that you have lost the debate."

Hypocrite, it's obvious that YOU only know how to call names and don't know the first thing about debating.

You lost your own lame argument.  FUCKING TROLL!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:09 | 6888347 L Bean
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This entire subject in untouchable to the MSM. It seems like the story of the century, yet is somehow still esoterica. 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:05 | 6888646 Lostinfortwalton
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The media has to be told what to report, but even they can't swallow the lies they are being given.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:34 | 6888484 smacker
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"Government agents 'directly involved' in most high-profile US terror plots"

from that Guardian article: "[...] after Congress and successive administrations relaxed restrictions on law enforcement and intelligence agencies for counterterrorism, they suggest that the government’s zeal to protect Americans has in some cases morphed into manufacturing threats."

.Gov manufacturing terror threats??? WAAHHHHTT

Shurely there musht be sumting wong(!)

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:02 | 6888301 yipcarl
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No FKING WAY!!!  A piture of two Muslims!! OMG The end is near!!!!   Man American's are some stupid ass gullible morons. 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:03 | 6888304 Nostradumbass
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This is just the beginning. Very troubling news from Germany:

German terror fears mount as thousands of Muslim migrants 'disappear' from camps

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/german.terror.fears.mount.as.thous...

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:06 | 6888328 Jack Oliver
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Don't know why ZH would try to justify what is obviously staged - manufactured BULLSHIT !!!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:10 | 6888352 The_Juggernaut
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That's a man, baby.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:19 | 6888401 jomama
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I could give a shit about these photos. They don't prove or show anything.

WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHERE IS THE GOD DAMNED SECURITY SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE??

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:37 | 6888495 rejected
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A down vote for wanting security footage?  WTF!

jomama, you are absolutely correct,,, I myself have been asking the same question. Why many aren't rasies serious questions.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:50 | 6888559 Lostinfortwalton
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Because the security footage would show the third person waiting outside, Tthe one who was observed jumping over fences and removing his black swat team clothing? just a thought.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:50 | 6888873 Joke Heros
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We are being told the buildings were not wired with surveillance. This is in a nearly brand new set of buildings. I'm still trying to find the interview with the facility manager who stated the only setup was in the said conference room set up for teleconferencing. She discussed it on local southern CA AM 640 talk radio.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:22 | 6888417 Sokhmate
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Looks like Zhers have bougt the story hook, line, and stinker.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:24 | 6888427 DebtVader
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Looks like a really bad Photoshop to me. The photo has a white border on the right side and does that signature look like someone who's written Arabic script all her life?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:48 | 6888865 ZD1
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She was an educated woman from a wealthy and politically influential family.  Why would you think she only wrote Arabic her entire life?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:30 | 6888460 Fuku Ben
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Everyone was handed the answer to who is actually responsible in 1 comment under 1 of the posts yesterday. At least 1 other comment alluded to it. There's your net, pond and fish. If you want to feed yourself happy fishing.

All other conjecture here is irrelevant. Nothing disclosed in the media will directly tell you who did it. They will however gladly misdirect you. Although I've seen at least 23 indirect ways so far where they've told you exactly who is really responsible.

Those that perpetrated the event and their affiliates, including those I know that post on this site, won't give you a net or tell your where to find the pond or fish. But they will mock for not figuring it out. And if you are drowning in the pond they'll gladly throw you an anchor.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:44 | 6888532 samsara
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Nice post

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:55 | 6888594 Lostinfortwalton
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In other happy news the government has just placed Syed Farook's father on the terrorist watch list. Guess they didn't get the memo from Barry that no evidence showed the fun couple didn't act alone.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:25 | 6888748 Chuckster
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The father has changed his story when talking to different news media.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 13:59 | 6888618 HowdyDoody
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I now can see how these two were thought to be 3 white guys at the time of the shooting.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:23 | 6888740 Chuckster
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If you ever been involved in this sort of thing.  You have to conclude some witnesses live on a different planet.  After several episodes you come to believe the witnesses actually believe what they are saying.  The human mind is an awesome thing.  I have sat and listened to witnesses say way weirder things than this.

I have seen one man with a revolver turn into 4 guys with ski masks and pump shotguns.  This is when you have sympathy for law enforcement individual involved.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:40 | 6888815 Lostinfortwalton
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Or you have 75 witnesses who saw a missile rise from the surface and impact a 747, including several combat pilots who had witnessed similar missile strikes in Vietnam, and they are ALL looney? To be safe you have the witnesses interviewed, not by the NTSB, but by FBI agents with no aviation background.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:01 | 6888625 Never One Roach
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" Yes we can! "

 

I think that's what Barry always says.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:16 | 6888708 Chuckster
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It's the "we" that gets ya.  Who he thinks he is talking about and who you think he is talking about is two different entities.  Substitute "Muslim" for "we" and you'll have a better understanding.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:02 | 6888626 scatha
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Saudis are holly cows beyond criticism and hence the solution cannot be found short of beheading the king for his crimes and dismantle this pompous fiefdom of brutality that does not belong to the XXI century.

https://contrarianopinion.wordpress.com/short-opinionlets-of-current-eve...

Those two are just scapegoats to justify new wave of constitutional coup and wiping out remaining rights of citizenry via deep state of surveillance.

All of it is possible only because of the culture of violence entrenched in our society by the ruling elite for their own benefit.

https://syrianwarupdate.wordpress.com/2015/12/04/spectacle-of-terror-rom...

 

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:02 | 6888629 Lostinfortwalton
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So the woman pledged allegance to ISIS WHILE THE ATTACK WAS GOING ON? Thought they smashed their phones beforehand anyway? Whaaaaa...

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:13 | 6888695 Chuckster
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That is exactly right.  There is so much dis-information being released that it is impossible to know what happened.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 15:40 | 6889102 r0mulus
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Not impossible by any means, but, you must be somewhat smart to separate the signal from all the noise.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:09 | 6889605 ZD1
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And you are all noise without any smarts!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:01 | 6888631 Jethro
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https://youtu.be/9gTWYxdtBzo

Funniest damned thing I've seen in a few weeks.  Obama is called a pussy on live tv.  HAHAHAHAHAHA

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:06 | 6888659 Chuckster
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Chicago?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:17 | 6888710 Lostinfortwalton
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What is really troubling is that the FBI tried to justify letting the news media ransack the apartment which clearly showed torn up bank statements, the woman's drivers liscense, and pellets for bomb-making. You don't make mistakes that big and keep your job, in the government or without. I think Comey is honest but I don't know if he can withstand the pressures from outside or the backstabbing and undermining from within. This apartment screw-up being exhibit A.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:19 | 6888722 goldman58
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Look at that fucking pig

Looks like something you could smell the stink of from a mile away

No wonder these guys become terrorists look at what they get to fuck - must be very stressful for them.....

Fucking pigs the whole lot of them .

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 18:16 | 6890013 JamaicaJim
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One reason why these Muzzies give themselves up...for the virgins in the next life....

 

After seeing this fucking stumpig little unibrow twattler, holy shit...so would I.

Fuck....

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 23:24 | 6891747 Buster Cherry
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hopefully their 72 virgins will be clones...of her.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:31 | 6888774 JamaicaJim
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New Photo Emerges Of California SET UP PATSIES Entering The US

 

fixed....

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 14:40 | 6888820 le chifre
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While Saudi Arabia spreads its Wahabbi poison and provides not only theological justification for DAESH/ISIS, the Taliban, and al Qaeda, but also funds for them.

Meanwhile, we fixate on "containing" Iran--a natural enemy of the above--and sell the Saudis whatever weapons systems they want. Yes, Iran uses terror as a weapon, but so does every other country in the regiion, including Israel.  Compared to Saudi Arabia, Iran is a beacon of democracy and human rights. 

We should have let Saddam Hussein keep Kuwait on condition that he keep going and erradicate Wahabbism in the Arabian peninsula and Persian Gulf.  But...Big Oil, the defense contractors, and The Israel Lobby won't let us do what's in our best interests. 

See http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabias-histor....

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 15:04 | 6888937 Joke Heros
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What's odd is while local news was reporting that Farook was the possible shooter/person of interest, it was reported that his wife had been reached for an interview, but she had no comment for the media. Then once they were mowed down, it was reported she was one of the shooters. Somehow she found the time to go home after the initial shooting, answer the phone when the media called, decline an interview, then end up armed and only about 2 miles from the initial shooting about 4 hours later. Very odd, while it could have been any family member, it was reported as his wife.

Damn I wish I could have recorded the local news (this as AM radio btw). Morons saying the only person who witnessed 3 males was Abelmageed weren't listening to local radio and scanners. Multiple accounts of 3 shooters and judging by the females height I'm sure that would have been a characteristic most witnesses could have passed on, unless she was wearing those conservative muslim approved high heels or platform shoes.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 15:13 | 6888970 Seal
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how about a photo of the 3 burly guys who eye witnesses said actually did the shooting

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 15:13 | 6888973 Seal
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how about a photo of the 3 burly guys who eye witnesses said actually did the shooting

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 16:03 | 6889251 V for ...
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A news outlet can get an old photo from Customs at O'Hare Airport, dated 2014 - but no one releases the video footage from cameras at the government building where the attack took place.

Meanwhile, a knife wielding nutter in London has his photo taken by passers by this week,  and CCTV will confirm what he did.

But in the 24/7 spy state of the USA, there's still no  photographic or video evidence of these two people at the scene of the crime committed in a government owned building.

Inconsistent, isn't it.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 15:23 | 6889021 TalkToLind
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It's a new category...of BEARDS...the assault beard!  

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 16:07 | 6889216 V for ...
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At the risk of stating the bleedin' obvious: another inconsistency stares us in the face.

The ABC news photo is dated July 2014. The Pakistani ID photo is dated 1986. That's a gap of 28 years.

How old was this woman said to be, according to reports? Mmmm, hmmmm....

And the Pak ID shows a young person, close in age to the person seen in the 2014 photo.

Curiouser, and curiouser...

Who is lying, and why?

If the official story can't even get her age correct, then what else is wrong?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 16:20 | 6889340 smacker
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As I recall she is reported to be 2 years younger than Farooq and he is about 29/30.

As you say, the years on the photos don't add up. Her Paki ID Card taken 1986 looks like she's about 15 or older, not 6 months or so.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 16:40 | 6889463 Chris Dakota
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She born July 1986

He born Nov 1987

Then he born Jun 1987.

I think you could find him with the original birthdate I found, born in Chicago Nov 5, 1987

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:04 | 6890287 smacker
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OK. So the date of 13 Jul 1986 on her Paki ID Card is her DOB, not the date of card issue.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 15:58 | 6889220 divedivedive
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Not all the attendees at the 'Christmas party' were killed or injured. Why are we not seeing interviews with those people ? Even the injured in the hospital - not a peep. This agency which held the party - did they shut down ? Why isn't some reporter going there looking for insights ?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 16:09 | 6889295 V for ...
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Six corporations with overlapping shareholders, interests and links to government own most of the news outlets in the USA nowadays. A couple years ago, veteran journalist Seymor Hersh said he would sack most modern editors for incompetence or collusion. I agree with him.

You ask the right questions, of course you do. No one employs you to lie or believe any old nonsense without question.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 16:15 | 6889322 smacker
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Very good questions.

The exact same routine played out with all other "terrorist attacks".

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 16:18 | 6889333 Lostinfortwalton
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Watching David Bowdich of the Cali FBI now. He is full of shit about the apartment being left open to be ransacked not being a monumental screw-up. Everything in the apartment should have been logged and taken to a secure storage facility. The wall board and ceiling panels and electrical outlets should have been removed to the extent they could determine nothing was hidden. The sink drains should have been drained and any human hair samples recovered for later analysis. The community dumpsters should have been gone through thoroughly. That is just for starters.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 16:34 | 6889422 eileentgif
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Extremely well said.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:09 | 6890678 PrimalScream
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The FBI says they got everything they needed in 24 hours.  They are DONE with the apartment.

Forensics is their job.  If they can get things done that fast ... I am good with it.  

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:48 | 6890942 Lostinfortwalton
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For 20 years I worked with two firms that investigated small airplane accidents with the NTSB (occasionally the FBI was involved). The wreckage, guarded by local police, was examined on site for two or three days after which it was moved to a locked storage facility for at least two years. Several times we had to revisit the wreckage, one time going back cross country five times to try and solve an in-flight fire problem. In this case the FBI does not know whether or not they are through with the apartment any more than we did with our airplane wreckage.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 16:57 | 6889552 CaptainMoonlight
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Wow that thong is FUGLY. No wonder those daesh cavemen bang goats!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:13 | 6889640 thisguyoverhere
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Imagine that you are the head of a vast international terrorist network. At your disposal are hundreds of fanatics, including women, who are willing to blow themselves up in suicide attacks. Just do a Google Search of the term "suicide bomber" and see how many of these attacks are alleged to have taken place over the past 30 years -- most notably the 9/11 attacks, in which 19 young "terrorist hijackers" with boxcutters allegedly gave up their lives for the cause, all at the same time (rolling eyes, smirking).

With a never-ending supply of such unstoppable human weaponry at your disposal, wouldn't you, as the head of "Al Qaeda" -- "Al Nusra" -- "ISIS" -- "ISIL" -- "Khorasan" -- "Boku Haram" -- or pick your favorite "jihadist" bunch of bogeymen of the month -- want to take out the western political big shots that you profess to hate so much? Think about it; a suicide bomber or suicide shooter can get to anybody. No Prime Minister, no President, no Senator, no Congressman, no Parliamentarian, no King, no Pope, no Secretary of State or Foreign Minister would be safe from a suicidal fanatic who cares not if he gets killed or is captured on the spot. And yet: thankfully, this has not happened. Why not?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 17:17 | 6889669 ZD1
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Ah, because those in power have multiple layers of security and the best intelligence not available to everyday citizens?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:14 | 6890707 thisguyoverhere
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To comment directly on the article, those two are likely patsies. Initial witnesses spotted three tall men, athletic build carrying multiple weapons. Lots of holes in this story.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 19:04 | 6890296 tunetopper
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FBI confirmed today that both were radicalized a long time ago, as I figured.  ISIS  cleaverly has changed formats, targets, narratives and were taking target practice.  Their friends and relatives are not to be trusted, and should be detained for intensive questioning.  If caught in a lie, they are de facto accomplices. 

 

Obama should be ashamed for trying to deflect this act as a possible "domestic workplace incident".  Further, he has insinuated that because there is not yet current evidence of ISIS direction, that somehow this Terror Act should be lumped together with other "one - off" shootings by US citizens. 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:05 | 6890656 Who was that ma...
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It's no damn wonder they make 'em wear burkahs.  I'd say that one was a double burkah bitch.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 20:16 | 6890717 PrimalScream
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Small random attacks by jihadists and mentally unstable people WILL happen ... it cannot be prevented.

We live in a FREE country.  If we value our freedom, then we need to recognize that some bad stuff will go down.

The police are trained to deal with it.  Americans with guns can deal with it.  END OF STORY.

If you don't have a gun - then pick up a chair and throw it the face of the terrorists.  Then take their gun.

We don't need to lose more freedoms.  ISIS can't take anything from us ... unless we give it to them.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:53 | 6891621 gdpetti
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Still doesn't explain why the couple were found handcuffed in that black SUV dead... windows weren't down, but up... shot out by the cops shooting at them... so who handcuffed them and why? Exactly how much shooting did they actually do given their handcuffs? Doesn't anyone wonder about this MC op?

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