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Supreme Court Declines To Consider Challenge To Assault Weapons Ban
These are the two guns used in the worst mass shooting America has seen since Sandy Hook:
The DPMS and Smith & Wesson M&P 15 assault rifles were purchased legally, but needless to say, the fact that the husband and wife duo managed to kill 14 and injure nearly two dozen in a short period of time in last week’s attack on a San Bernardino employee holiday party has raised fresh questions about gun control in America.
Tashfeen Malik and Syed Rizwan Farook’s rampage was of course just the latest in a string of shootings that have shaken America to its core. Predictably, each new “incident” brings out the gun control advocates which in turn leads to more gun purchases as Americans fear the government is out to confiscate their firearms on the way to effectively nullifying the Second Amendment. Have a look at the following graphic we published earlier today:
Well, in a conveniently timed decision, the Supreme Court said on Monday that it will not hear a Second Amendment challenge to an Illinois ordinance banning semiautomatic assault weapons and large-capacity mags. As The New York Times writes, “the ordinance banned some weapons by name, including AR-15s and AK-47s [but] more generally, it prohibited possession of what it called assault weapons, defining them as semiautomatic guns that can accept large-capacity magazines and have features like a grip for the nontrigger hand.”
So in other words, guns like those used by Malik and Farook.
The Illinois State Rifle Association and a Dr. Arie S. Friedman, challenged the ordinance, contending that the term “assault weapons is an imaginary and pejorative category.”
Friedman, The Times notes, “had kept guns and magazines for self-defense that were banned by the ordinance.” Friedman attempted to draw a parallel between the Illinois ordinance and a what he and the Rifle Association claim is an ongoing effort to undermine District of Columbia v. Heller, a 2008 decision that struck down a federal law which banned keeping handguns at home for self-defense. The lower courts’ exhibit a “massive resistance to Heller and refuse to treat Second Amendment rights as deserving respect equal to other constitutional rights,” they contend.
Here’s the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, in Chicago’s rationale for upholding the ordinance:
“A ban on assault weapons and large-capacity magazines might not prevent shootings in Highland Park (where they are already rare), but it may reduce the carnage if a mass shooting occurs. If a ban on semiautomatic guns and large-capacity magazines reduces the perceived risk from a mass shooting, and makes the public feel safer as a result, that’s a substantial benefit.”
And here’s the dissenting opinion:
"By prohibiting a class of weapons commonly used throughout the country. Highland Park’s ordinance infringes upon the rights of its citizens to keep weapons in their homes for the purpose of defending themselves, their families and their property.”
Finally, here's Justice Thomas' dissent from the Supreme Court's certiorari denial:
“[O]ur central holding in” District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U. S. 570 (2008), was “that the Second Amendment protects a personal right to keep and bear arms for lawful purposes, most notably for self-defense within the home.” McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U. S. 742, 780 (2010) (plurality opinion). And in McDonald, we recognized that the Second Amendment applies fully against the States as well as the Federal Government. Id., at 750; id., at 805 (THOMAS, J., concurring in part and concurring in judgment). Despite these holdings, several Courts of Appeals— including the Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit in the decision below—have upheld categorical bans on firearms that millions of Americans commonly own for lawful purposes. See 784 F. 3d 406, 410–412 (2015). Because noncompliance with our Second Amendment precedents warrants this Court’s attention as much as any of our precedents, I would grant certiorari in this case.
Obviously, the inevtiable result of these types of decisions will be precisely the opposite of their intent. That is, at no other time in history have Americans been more zealous about protecting their right to keep and bear arms, and with each mass shooting and subsequent Obama gun control tirade, the public's fear only grows, leading directly to more gun purchases and MOAR of this:
So way to go federal government, what you're doing is clearly working - only in the opposite direction from which you intended.
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I plan on turning mine in.
You can take them from my cold dead hands.
So as long as we "feel" safer everything is good ?
at least until the crazy person with a gun walks through the door...
Unpossible. Those are AR-15s.
The three white male shooters wearing body armor all had AK-47s. I heard it myself several times.
The number of these 'mass shootings' have exploded under Obummer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az2neZzL6UA
They want the AR-15 type weapons gone because they have the capacity to shoot through police body armor.
They have said so themselves...
http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/03/no-cop-ever-green-tipped/
This is a f’n stitch..
The crazy person or terrorist that will do a number on some soft target in Highland Park will likely come from adjacent North Chicago or nearby Waukegan. Nobody that can afford to live in Highland Park is in that category.
Idiot North Shore Obama voting Lib fools.
Y’know..
The people with a brain in and around that area could have fun with the libs in Highland Park (and they ARE mostly brainless rich libs there) by pressing for a refugee reception facility and housing development there.
After all, Highland Park would be a safe haven because of their weapons ban.
Nothing is stopping Trump from Executive Ordering all such laws as an infringement on the 2nd Amendment and are hereby Null and Void. That along with Obamacare, the EPA Stazi, the IRS Stazi, Common Core, Forced Vaccinations (gawd, lets hope so anyway), Global Warming Carbon Taxation Scams, and Enforcing Current Immigration Laws.
Executive Orders are a Bitch when it cuts the other way, Libtards
So "our" Supreme Court feels that Constitutional Rights can be infringed as long as it "makes the public feel safer".
Long rope, lampposts, and .308 WIN.
I have declined obeying any unconstitutional law that the SCOTUS attempts to impose upon me.
Sincerely,
Boattrash
PS You know who I am, and where I'm at.
"they" could have just been monitoring these guys communications. Saw they were getting all religious, decided they'd be good scare candidates. Went to their house and capped them. Committed the murders themselves and left their bodies at the scene.
Highland Park school district is one of those whom send a delegation to the Annual White Privilege Conference. Their next door neighbor, Deerfield, does as well.
Hey, ZerOhead
Sorry, really shady explanation for why, has to be disinformation. Not you, but the source.
Even a soft point hunting projectile fired from an ancient Winchester 30 30 lever action rifle will punch out a class 3 plate and the soft stuff in between real good.
Up the ante with a model 1903 bolt action 30 06, and you can probably stack a bunch of body armor wearing folks, and ventilate all of them. From 400 yards out.
Even a .17 HMR round stands a good chance of rolling right through body armor.
Another dot gov urban legend.
SILVERGEDDON, Check out one of my personal favorites, the 300 R.U.M.
http://rockinguns.com/ballistics/300_rum.html
Someone should ask him to explain that.
Legislation from the bench through silence.
Fucking retarded the hoops one has to do to exercise a right. But no, that is not an infringement.
Fuck the government.
Drives me nuts to think about how even those who understand the amendment argue on their terms.
pods
Still no bodies accounted for at the San Bernardino County Coroner's office (did they go somewhere else)?
http://cms.sbcounty.gov/sheriff/MediaCenter/CoronerPressReleases.aspx
Should be pretty easy to tell if "wounds" were from a 7.62x39 versus 5.56x45mm bullet.
Seriously, where ARE the bodies ? Is the "press" wondering? How about interviews with real family? (as opposed to the very strange crisis actors) Etc.
Families will not be allowed to view them, as was the case in
Sandy Hoax.
The bodies are usually transferred to funeral homes per the family's wishes.
http://cms.sbcounty.gov/sheriff/Divisions/Coroner.aspx
There have been several interviews with family members.
http://ktla.com/2015/12/03/2-victims-of-san-bernardino-mass-shooting-idd...
So we're all safe, as no NATO rounds 7.62x51 (~ .308) were used. Compared to the aforementioned powerful 7.62x39 and 5.56x45 rounds, thank goodness the 308 round is not armor-piercing. That's my official understanding of it.
Even though I have an after-market 20 round mag for my FNH, I prefer the low-capacity mags for hunting, for the following reason:
I can have multiple low-cap mags, each one with a different 308 load, to suit the game I'm targeting. I.e., I can do a quick swaps of ideal grain mags to suit the target. This cal, plus the classic 30-06 have all the trajectory, energy and range attributes, and choice of loads you need to hit a target at 200-400 m -- and still penetrate the toughest hide, to drop a medium or large target on the spot.
"These are the two guns used in the worst mass shooting America has seen since Sandy Hook:"
I know that my eyes are getting shittier every day, but I see four weapons in that picture.
I heard that this shell casing found at the scene is from the rare AK 74.
https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/shell-casin...
The San Bernardino weapons were illegally configured according to ATF.
Both are illegal to posses in CA (vert grip, quick release mag, high capacity) and one is illegal to posses in USA (full auto).
Apparently, sociopathic mass murders don't give a shit about gun laws. Go figure.
WTH, the one on the left has a fixed sight in front of a dot sight? Isn't that just retarded?
Also, both of those guns, while perhaps legally purchased, are illegal in California. A forward grip is I believe entirely outlawed within the state. The rear-grip, collapsible stock and muzzle flash suppressor are legal so long as it's registered and has a "bullet button" on the side rather than a normal ejector button.
Basically, California's gun laws, while being perhaps the strictest in the nation, amount to little more than banning visible features in order to make the stupid-ass progressives feel safer.
Imagine if you asked a retarded child, who had never in his life played baseball, what he would do to make the baseball more safe to play. That's about the effectiveness of California's gun laws.
"WTH, the one on the left has a fixed sight in front of a dot sight? Isn't that just retarded?"
No, it's called "co-witnessing". It's quite smart actually. Look into it.
Oh, is this for when you don't spend enough on a dot sight that corrects for parallax?
No, it's in case you run out of battery juice or you break it in a fire fight. You can quickly then disconnect and have your iron sights ready. Always have a low tech option ready, always.
No, it's in case you run out of battery juice or you break it in a fire fight. You can quickly then disconnect and have your iron sights ready. Always have a low tech option ready, always.
As we used to say, "Two is one and one is none" ;)
Not so quickly.
As we say, today, you don't need to take time to disconnect your optic to use your iron sights, you just roll the rifle 45 degrees, back and forth, to transition between your RTS irons and optic. No "quick" release levers, no stuffing a $3,000 optic into your dump bag, no flip-up, flip-down, and no fumbling around.
oooo.. looks like I gotta’ get me a couple of those..
Not cheap though at $200.00 or more set.
Why in god's name would ANYONE put a $3000 optic on an AR (besides someone spending taxpayer money)?
What do you expect to hit with a 45 degree cant on your rifle? Something real close, maybe. Maybe. What do you think is going to happen when you crank the elevation knob on that thing? OMG. You can't be serious.
Of note, the rifles are mismatched. On the left is a S&W MP15 upper (no forward assist, no dust cover) mounted on a DPMS lower/stock set. On the right is a DPMS upper mounted on a S&W MP15 lower/stock set.
Apparently, they were taken apart and put back together incorrectly at some point. Both are "low end" AR's.
Or are "drop guns" made from random parts from some armory.
Honestly, both look like they were put together by a US Army veteran of Iraq, circa 2005 (says my pal who served three tours). Bipod vertical grips, flip up iron sights, and single point slings are all so mid-2000's.
But three is two!
why not use flip-up sights then since they won't infringe on your open view of the subject?
Cowitness is ok when you have an A-post and an unmagnified optical.
Better is a Picatinny gas block, magnified optic, and Dueck Defense Rapid Transition Sights.
Rigth, that's exactly what that is in the above pic.
In Maryland we ban them because of bayonet lugs, too.
Because mass bayonettings are a thing.
WTH, the one on the left has a fixed sight in front of a dot sight? Isn't that just retarded?
Not really - it's called "co-witnessing" and can provide a kind of "hybrid" sighting system. Some people like it - and it can be good for consistency if you switch from an optic to iron sights as your weapon would handle the same (cheek weld would be the same).
Imagine if you asked a retarded child, who had never in his life played baseball, what he would do to make the baseball more safe to play. That's about the effectiveness of California's gun laws.
Agreed. The ridiculously stupid idea that a forward (vertical) grip somehow makes a firearm more "dangerous" is something that can only be cooked up in the emotionally-driven mind of a feeb. The idiots making the laws are disgustingly ignorant of the issues they pass laws on - which is especially aparent when it comes to guns and what they consider "dangerous."
How about the fact that there is an Eotech red dot mounted behind the red dot sight behind the ramp mount standard front sight.
I never heard of double red dot / iron sight co-witnessing..............
Is that some kind of Middle Eastern gang banger set up ?
Or, is it the "Sand Spider" AR ?
You know - meant to be really scary.
Once again, in his speach last night, O'Bummer failed to set the country at ease and make all of us feel very safe.
He should have given the shortest presidential speech on record: "I Resign!".
One of my students was talking all about this debate, and he said, "Dr Wong, you don't have one of those assault rifle things do you?" I replied, "I don't have one of them." He went away satisfied while the student who knew me suppressed the laugh until the clueless one left.
So far 5 people will enjoy the fema camps. Enjoy.
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nice icon...typical communist/facist pheasant. History has NOT served that attitude well.
http://www.rense.com/general96/NobodyDiedAtSandyHook.pdf
It's looking more and more like Molon Labe will be attempted sooner rather than later.
Right, fat black ATF women and third worlders employed by the Feral Government will go door to door demanding "GIMME DEM MUTHAFUCKIN GUNS CRACKA" and of course I will comply.
not
Clarence Thomas is an idiot!
You could not shine his shoes son
..but will they think about having SSRI s banned? Or alchohol.. ? Might have something to do with all that bribe money that Leon said "judge motherfucker" is taking ?
"more generally, it prohibited possession of what it called assault weapons, defining them as semiautomatic guns that can accept large-capacity magazines and have features like a grip for the nontrigger hand."
My 10-22 can accept 30 round magazines. I can put a plastic kit on it that makes it look like an AR-15, too. So I guess it's illegal.
And I've never seen a long gun that didn't have a grip for you to put your non-trigger hand on to steady and aim the weapon. Name for me the long gun that wouldn't be illegal under this definition.
I think they mean vertical grip, not a mere front stock.
Well you can't acuse them of saying what they mean
ironic part about last nights speech (lecture):
how many changes/updates to the war against ISIS ... 0
how many changes/updates to democratic desired gun control ... 3
Obama never mentioned dropping arms into the desert, either - not one time. What is the waiting period for terrorist groups wanting palettes of weapons and ammo, president polesmoke? Is it calculated in flight time + controlled landing time? I hope he has a very nice holiday.
Here's what everyone misses in the gun control argument:
The 2nd Amendment is a hedge against a TYRANNICAL government. At the time of its draft, the US military consisted of US Citizens, aka the Citizen Militia. It was always the intention of the Founders and Framers of the Constitution, that the US Citizens have the most modern weaponry, in good working order (the true meaning of "well-regulated" at that time).
Hence, all Americans should be able to possess the SAME MILITARY HARDWARE as our US Army, including tanks, helicopters, and TOW missiles. And of course, fully automatic weapons.
Since the true definition of "assault weapon", if there is one, is that the weapon is full auto capable, and since full auto is ALREADY BANNED to the general consumer, there is NO SUCH THING as Assault Weapons being available to the public.
Further, the rifles supposedly used in this cough-False Flag-cough event, were listed as .223 caliber (I would argue that the barrels were more probably 5.56x45mm, and yes, there is a difference). While a good caliber, there are MANY rifle calibers that are MUCH MORE powerful than the 5.56x45mm. Especially, for example, the .308 caliber or 7.62x51mm.
As far as magazine capacity, you can buy a magazine holder that holds 5 ten-round mags in a circular fashion. Then again, a person could always have more than one weapon...
And finally...what part of "shall not be infringed" does the President and leftist commies not understand?
Lets not forget nukes and biological weapons (supposedly only "non lethal" for the latter).
"Hence, all Americans should be able to possess the SAME MILITARY HARDWARE as our US Army, including tanks, helicopters, and TOW missiles. And of course, fully automatic weapons."
No, No.... MOAR Weapons than UNCLE SHAM!
What part of "…the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." do the political parasites and judicial parasites not understand?
The same people who are trying to change these laws are the enemy. TAKE NOTE OF WHO.
Pretty much all of it... and guess what? They don't care!
Stand By for stand by. It's coming!
From Aritcle: "If a ban on semi-automatic guns and large-capacity magazines reduces the perceived risk from a mass shooting, and makes the public feel safer as a result, that’s a substantial benefit.”
Thats exactly what these laws will do is "reduces the perceived risk" not the real risk of being unarmed... When everyone has an assault rifle pointed at you, you may want the option to be able to buy one to protect yourself from real risk not a perceived risk... The bad guys will still get them, just you wont now.. The Bad Guys are the US GOVERNMENT AND A Select group of business people and bankers.. They are the enemy, not the perceived enemy. Our government is all crooks. Complete and FULL of crooks when the market goes down and communtication go down remember POLITICIANS AND BANKERS ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS MESS!
See, here you are trying to reason with criminals. No use, they don't care about facts. They know what they are doing. Get ready to be dry humped.
Im ready Im just trying to warn people, Im fucking ready for these pukes... I can taste it.
here's my replacement logic...
"If <the TSA> reduces the perceived risk from <terrorist plane hijackings>, and makes the public feel safer as a result, that's a substantial benefit."
in other words, we're just talking about manipulation of perception with no concrete benefit... just like the TSA...
"...makes the public feel safer..."
What utter crap.
It can just as easily be said that gun owners--roughly 1/3 of the US population--would feel safer if they could carry their guns freely anywhere they want, but nobody's arguing in favor of that.
The bias against guns is already baked into the cake.
Yeah, apparently certain people's feelings form a legitimate legal basis for depriving others of their liberty and property.
BOHICA from your frienfly constitutionally minded folks that gave you ObamaCare, the Supremo's.
So now Constitutional rights can be abrogated by local ordanance if it makes constituencies feel better. This is a giant step towards balkanization. Be prepared to vacate to a rights-friendly jurisdiction. I've been looking at Texas, and I remember the Alamo.
Come on down we'd love to have you.
So if a City decides to disallow ,certain kinds of speech etc., can they?
Called free speach zones.
Knowing guns are banned makes the sheeple feel more comfortable and therefore more complacent, and that's all that really matters in Obamanation.
The Federal government illegally maintains a database of everyone who undergoes an FBI Gun Purchase Background Check to facilitate seizure of firearms from their legal owners to prevent opposition to the totalitarian police state.
aren't the logistics going to be hard to impliment on over 100 million people? I just can't figure out how they will do it.
The Supreme Court of the United States represents a clear and present danger to the Constitution and the Republic.
Fuck this.
Black GUNS Matter!!
What is clear is that in the coming months and years the violence is going to escalate as the National Socialists continue their war on the White Middle Class.
Let the local crazies ban such weapons because they will make millions of law abiding citizens criminals and disarm the people in the areas that are radical left wing bastions.
As you can see, the government and the courts no longer function under the Constitution. No part of the Constitution has any type of plain or historic meaning. As you can clearly see we will not be able to fix the problems from the corruption and mandatory race wars that are present in every National Socialist government from time immemorial.
Hence, look for a French Revolution or Russian Revolution type of event to reset the entire system to go back to Capitalism and a Republican form of government.
What we have now is National Socialism with the race war against Whites and this came about by allowing those getting the benefits being allowed to vote.
Praise be to Obama bin Laden and the Muslim brothers.
@truthalwayswinsout
"as the National Socialists continue their war on the White Middle Class."
Yeah old Adolf sure would be working hard to wipe out the Whites wouldn't he?
US Naval Commander George Lincoln Rockwell, White Power leader of National Socialist White People's Party until he was assassinated in 1967.
Fuck the Supreme Court and fuck the leftist losers.
Consider big guns a tax, not a fee. That makes them OK, right SCOTUS?
Lol 100 million guns they know about and 400 million ghost guns they don't . Fuck them .
The coyote does not lose sleep over the opinion of the rabbit
Wel Damn then it looks like if cities want to shut down mosques as the Koran and Muslim religion are very dangerous to Christians, They can.
and to atheists and Buddhists and everyone else.
Shine the Constitution and The Rule of Law,,,if it makes the public feel safer? Really?
We're doomed.
These rulings would be worth getting angry about if there was a Constitution or Bill of Rights that applied to anyone. But the whole thing is just part of a larger fraud perpetrated by criminals for their benefit.
"There are no Presidents, Senators, Congress, Congressmen or Governors. There's people pretending to be, they are playing a part, just like Bill O'Reilly, it's all staged." - Marc Stevens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5vr-IWzv5w
or you can pick out any appropriate corresponding lines in one or more of Shakespeare's plays
I don't carry a gun to kill people; I carry a gun to keep from being killed.
I don't carry a gun because I'm evil; I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the World.
I don't carry a gun because I hate the government; I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.
I don't carry a gun because I'm angry; I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.
I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone; I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.
I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man; I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.
I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate; I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.
with guns: we protect our president, senate, congressman, governmors, celebrities, sporting events, jewelry stores, banks, office buildings, factories qand courts...We defend our children with a sign "gun free zone", and then call someone with a gun if there is an emergency.
I have said this before on ZH. I have 30 years and over 60,000 hours studying constitutional law.
Please!!! Look at the divide of opinion from the courts. The so called conservatives jump up and down on the second amendment. The liberals for the most part ignore it. Ask yourself. WHAT has occurred? What judicial doctrines are at issue here? The problem is...is that both sides are right. And both sides are wrong. However the paradox can be logically solved IF one understands the LEGAL FRAMEWORK in play and how it affects the judiciary under the doctrine of separation of powers.
The legal framework. Firearms are regulated by the feds via the GCA of 1968 and amendments. The FEDS DO NOT possess State police powers. However they do have TAXING and COMMERCE POWERS. Properly exercised these are HANDS OFF to the judiciary as political questions. As confirmed by the USSC, the federal licensing of firearms (manufactureres and dealers) is an operation of the federal taxing power. Firearms are the object of an EXCISE TAX. To insure the tax is collected at every step, the item or PROPERTY must be identified (serial numbers). As several parties can be liable for the tax, SUMMARY ADMINISTRATIVE CONTROL) (BATF) of the taxable item MOVING IN COMMERCE between VENDOR/ PURCHASER (manu/dealer) is reasonable and proper. Failure to follow the rules or pay the tax can result in siezure and forfiture of the property. This includes the application of ADMINISTRATIVE (summary) and CRIMINAL penalties.
Summary administrative control over a taxable item moving in commerce based on a plenary legislative power that poses a political question upon the courts.
DO YOU FUCKING GET IT!!!!!
Now the legal framework put in place by brilliant government attorneys.
The LAW (GCA of 1968) requires you to fill out paperwork (BATF) form as a CONDITION PRECEDENT of possession. TRANSFER OF A FIREARM.
Wait a minute. AS confirmed by the USSC. Manufacturing and dealing are NOT activities protected by the second amendment. That is a licenced and taxable privilege affecting the health saftey and SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS NOT POSSESSED BY THE LICENSEE. TRANSFER is an ADMINISTRATIVE TERM denoting the movement of the property moving in commerce subject to the tax. AND NOW THE LAW REQUIRES YOU TO SIGN O FORM THAT RE TRANSFERS THAT PROPERTY UNDER THE SAME EXACT SUMMARY/PLEANARY POWERS AS IF BEWEEN MANU AND DEALER. A CLASS ENGAGED IN AN ACTIVITY THE POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY OF WHICH LIES OUTSIDE THE PROTECTIONS OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
DOES ANYONE HERE THINK THE COURTS OF LAW AND EQUITY GIVE TWO SHITS JUST WHO IS SUBJECT TO THE SUMMARY/PLENARY POWERS ALONG THE CHAIN OF TRANSFER?????
And so you have the divide among the courts. Both sides know what is going one. The liberals are the technocrats that follow the leter of the law regarless of the outcome. The conservatives. SUBSTANCE OVER FORM.
No person in the US can own a firearm as PROPERTY is defined, understood, and protected under the constitution and the second amendment. Under the Due Process Clause, those protections simply cannot be reached which means the political branches have complete control.
EVERY claim I make here can be backed up by established case law that is directly on pont to the true issue at hand. The second amendment is a side issue period.
I'm certain you are very knowledge because you say so yourself, but I don't fucking get it. I only studied constiutional law for about 2 and 1/2 hours.
Please elaborate on your 2nd to last paragraph regarding property.
Also, if one were to fabricate his own AR15 equivalent, then would that side step the entire tax/commerce burden?
ALL rights would be meaningless without a process of law to protect them. In the eyes of .gov the question becomes: How do we subvert the process. Or more accurately, how do we substitute one process for another? I know. Confusing until you understand the distinction between mere procedural due process under STANDING of LICENSE and PRIVILEGE where "the rights of the individual would be subordinate to the public convienannce"...as distinguished from the possession and exercise of a natural or fundamental right protected by the constitution.
Within the context of this subject matter, dealers and manufacturers are engaged in a licenced and taxable activity (business/occupational privilege) affecting the health and saftey of the public. What RIGHT does the individual have to stand on as a means to limit the powers of the government to regulate pursuant to the powers being exercised? Second amendment? NO, the USSC has already settled that. Property rights? Not a bar to summary siezure and forfiture laws for VIOLATING the terms of the PRIVILEGE. No, only PROCEDURAL rights where the courts look at the FACTS and then applies the LAW to the FACTS. (Soo the facts are you thought about slapping you wife and the LAW says anyone having such thoughts cannot possess a firearm or ammo). GUILTY and by the way not even EX POST FACTO will come to your aid if those thoughts came to you before the law was passed. Under SEP of powers, the courts have almost NO ROOM to move further. For the most part, as NO rights are involved the constitution affords little or no protection. FYI, "the power to tax is the power to destroy" only has application to that which is NOT a proper object of taxation. But I digress.
Now look at fundamental rights protected by the constitution and the courts. One must have STANDING to reach those rights. Let this one sink in. Standing creates jurisdiction. How a courts sits in relation to a right, as that right is affected by the enforcement of the law is dependant on the context of an individuals circumstances. Within the framework of the GCA, the LAW creates CONDITIONS that WRONGLY places the CITIZEN in LIKE AND SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES as those engaged in an activity that the second amendment has NO APPLICATION. By your signature on the BATF form, YOU just admitted that you are subject to those summary plenary administrative powers. YOU now stand before the courts (mere possession via transfer) holding property subject to the SAME exact plenary powers upon which the second amendment cannot limit. Hence, you and your firearm are limited to mere PROCEDURAL processes under the law. ITS ALL THAT EXISTS UNDER THIS SIDE OF THE LAWAND UNDER THE PROCESSES THAT FIT THE PLENARY/SUMMARY NATURE OF THE POWERS BEING EXERCISED. HOW CAN PEOPLE NOT SEE THAT CONGRESS HAS NOT DIRECTLY GONE AGAINST THE SECOND AMENDMENT BUT HAS CREATED THE NECESSARY LEGAL FRAMEWORK TO REMOVE THE COURTS FROM THE QUESTION BY WALKING AROUND THE CONSTITUITIONS REQUIREMENTS/PROTECTIONS?????
The GCA of 1968 violates the Due Process Clause as it REMOVES the courts of LAW AND EQUITY from sitting in a capacity in which it can consider the second amendment.
Can Congress do that? Tie the hands of the courts by creating an ACT that extends the federal jurisdiction taxing / commerce powers into an area of regulation that those powers CANNOT APPLY because if they do, then the second amentment is NO bar to their exercise???
So where the FUCK is the NRA and their hi buck legal team??? The cure to the disease is right in front of their faces. Yet why cure the disease when you can pocket billions by continuousely treating the symptoms.
I guess the limits of my rights end where a slight decrease in the potential of perceived threats begins. Duh.
Start a 'War on Drugs' you get more drugs. Threaten a teenager with death if he drinks beer at the Prom... It ain't rocket science.
On Saturday the New York Times had a FRONT PAGE editorial calling for the banning of semi-automatic firearms.
This the first time since 1920, that the New York Times has run a front page editorial.
Arthur Sulzberger Jr, Publisher of the Times, a Tribe member, has a NYC Pistol permit and carries a handgun. He
does not want Whites carrying guns, but he can.
Andrew Rosenthal, a Tribe member, is the Times opinion editor.
OBAMA COMING FOR GUNS IN FINAL YEAR
Interview with Professor Kevin MacDonald October 23, 2015 Discusses the immigrant surge in Germany and loss of 2nd Amendment through immigration displacement of the founding stock of America, the Whites.
http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/dduke/102315.mp3
This is discussed by Dr MacDonald:
The NRA will fall. It’s inevitable. Just look at the demographics. The Washington Post, October 19, 2015
by Adam Winkler professor at UCLA School of Law
See also:
Jews and Jewish organizations lead the gun control campaign by Professor Kevin MacDonald
Jews and Gun Control: A Reprise by Andrew Joyce, PhD
El Salvador is one of the most, if not the MOST violent nation in the world. They have EVERY SINGLE gun ban and control scheme that the Demonrats want...
This isn't about "safety" it is about DISARMING WHITES...
South Africa ‘a Country at War’ as Murder Rate Soars to Nearly 49 a Day
17,800 murders — an increase of 782 over the year before.
The Guardian, September 29, 2015
South Africa, and be not fooled, this is YOUR fate also Whites in America, UNLESS and UNTIL you RISE UP!!!
http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/
I put my faith in God and the Mauser
~ Boer General Ben Viljoen
'You must carry your gun and your Bible together at once'
~ Afrikaner Werner Selzer, 2010
http://www.nrahq.org/
http://gunowners.org/
http://www.gundigest.com/article/ObamaExpose/
When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."
--Rudyard Kipling
"The Gods of the Copybook Heading"
They want Whites to be completely defenseless against the colored majority. When a White defends him or herself .gov and the people of color lobby howl for that White's blood! The white middle class says nothing about the ongoing genocide of Whites, because they have been brainwashed by schools, churches, .gov, the televitz and Hollyweird. Our people are being slaughtered AND NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT IT!
Bah. Patriots gave the government the Constitution to follow upon penalty of death, not the other way around.
American Constitution promotes Terrorism
Amendment II
As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, then-Secretary of State:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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America thrives on violence, bloodshed , gore
Semi-auto rifles have been around for almost 100 years. By re-definiting assault weapons (which are sub-machine guns) to mean semi-auto rifles, they effective want to take them all.
Fuck them.