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US Air Force Running Out Of Bombs To Drop On ISIS
Things must be going well in the "war on terror," as the US Air Force just admitted that it is fast running out of bombs to drop on ISIS after "B-1s have dropped bombs in record numbers." As ZeeNews reports, Air Force chief of staff General Mark Welsh said as America ramps up its military campaign against the Islamist terror group, the Air Force is now "expending munitions faster than we can replenish them."
The US Air Force is fast running out of bombs to drop on ISIS targets in Syria and Iraq after its pilots fired off over 20,000 missiles and bombs since the US bombing campaign against the terror group began 15 months ago, its chief has said. As ZeeNews reports,
"B-1s have dropped bombs in record numbers. F-15Es are in the fight because they are able to employ a wide range of weapons and do so with great flexibility. We need the funding in place to ensure we're prepared for the long fight," Welsh said in the statement.
"This is a critical need," he said.
The bombing campaign has left the US Air Force with what an Air Force official described as munitions depot stocks "below our desired objective."
The Air Force has requested additional funding for Hellfire missiles and is developing plans to ramp up weapons production to replenish its stocks more quickly. But replenishing that stock can take "up to four years from time of expenditure to asset resupply," the official told CNN.
"The precision today's wars requires demands the right equipment and capability to achieve desired effects. We need to ensure the necessary funding is in place to not only execute today's wars, but also tomorrow's challenges," the official said.
As The Washington Times concludes, Russia has been bombing ISIS positions sporadically while France and Great Britain are now active in the American-led coalition which could relieve some pressure.
Much larger potential adversaries like Russia or China most surely are following this development carefully. If the USAF cannot sustain a trickling battle against a poorly armed, medieval enemy, fighting a superpower military is obviously beyond its capability.
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buy some from china. probrem solved.
Maybe they could borrow some from Russia.
they won't need to. all they have to is get wall st on the case, and in no time they'll flatten syria with bomb futures
How the hell could they be running low now?
They have been giving all the ISIL oil tankers into Turkey a pass for a year or so now.
How many empty targets are these expensive weapons hitting because the US military is too lazy to confirm their relevancy?
That's what happens when you get high on McD's breakfast and start your day as a drone operator...
(wrong branch, but still relevant...)
This administration is supplying lies faster that they can replenish it.
Exactly how many doctors without borders buildings are there if we're running out of bombs?
Q: What is the difference between a hospital, wedding, and terrorist command post?
A: I don't know, I just fly the drone.
Either they're lying about the number of bombs dropped or they're lying about whether the bombs land on ISIS targets.
You can choose one, but does it really matter? They're lying scum either way.
And, you overlooked another one of their lies.
This is the one government on the planet that can print almost infinite amounts of its own currency, allowing it to buy unlimited amounts of anything it wants, from a gigantic military-industrial complex that is eager and ready to supply them with anything they desire. And they try to tell us they are running out of material to bomb ISIS with??
They just lie, and lie, and lie, and lie, and lie, and lie. And lie.
(10^(10^(10^(10^10))))^666
The Banksters doomsday math function.
Obama hinted at this last night:
"But they also know that if we occupy foreign lands, they can maintain insurgencies for years, killing thousands of our troops and draining our resources, and using our presence to draw new recruits."
Do we have reserves for a real global threat? Pentagon gave up on "fight two wars" and I'm wondering if we can fight/sustain ourselves in one?
I get the feeling this news isn't entirely true. They've probably been ordered to hoard most of the stockpile to use one day against American citizens.
most of the shit being dropped from our planes over ISIS territory are weapons to be used against us and of course, food, water, Nike BBall shoes, and leaflets informing them ahead of time to run away before we actually do drop real bombs on a few of them for the nightly news puppets to show the sheeple.
We already know most of the effective bombing has all been done by Russia in just a matter of a few weeks. Something our treasonous gov-scum hasn't allowed our military to do in over an entire year of fucking around over there.
We're OK as long as we don't resort to the dreaded "barrel bombs," 'cause that would be, like, immoral, something only a Syrian dictator would use.
They are not running out of bombs because they've been bombing ISIS. Maybe running out, but not bombing ISIS
Sheesh. Why don't they just say, "We can't drop any bombs. The doors are all stuck and we lost our keys".
Just have American intel let SA know that behind each tanker is a wedding party.
We've bombed every damned target that ISIS has given us. How could there be any problems?
Our precision air-dropped munitions are mostly iron bombs with nose-and-tail guidance kits. We have plenty of iron bombs and they're relatively inexpensive. The guidance kits (Raytheon's Paveway and Boeing's JDAM) are roughly in the $20,000 - $40,000 range. Special use ones can run north of $80,000 a kit.
Total loaded cost of operating an F-15 run can't be easily calculated, but one common wild-assed guess used is about $200K a sortie.
Precision weapons on average today probably hit their intended targes roughly about 80% of the time. Bottom line is that we are spending a quarter of a million (give or take) any time we bomb a farm tractor or an empty building, i.e., ISIS headquarters.
The question here shouldn't be how many more bombs we need or how much they cost. The question should be: "Why THE FUCK have we revived the Vietnam-era strategy of waging a questionably legal and utterly useless air campaign against guerrilla fighters based on our even more useless intelligence?"
Maybe the better question is "When do we strip those fuckers at the Pentagon of their rank and court martial them for dereliction of duty for NOT informing the President that they are unable to analyze intelligence properly enough to bomb anything of value, and the U.S. air campaign is fucking useless against ISIS as a result?"
If they are running out of both bombs and leadlets could they not resort to dropping Congressional Investigations and Pending and Proposed Legislation?
Think of all the 9/11 studies that are sitting on shelves going unread. All of the Federal Expropriation acts. The tons and tons of NSA lists of people not to talk with, about, or to, and the lists of phone numbers that go on forever. This stuff is heavy. Start dropping it on ISIS and they will either surrender immediately or die laughing.
'Cost benefit analysis' in the military? BWAHAAAAAAAA........ $100,000 to kill a goat or camel.... so what?
You miss the point.
At least the military-industrial complex is still humming along....... We've spent BILLIONS and BILLIONS and STILL use the B-52 (more than 50 years old) because it's replacements are obscenely expensive boondoggles. Anyone ever ask WHY we even built these disasters? The F-35 is another mess like the F-111 - too much expected at an obscene price in a waay too complicated plane used to fight 'insurgents' on the ground armed with WHAT?
Ike nailed it in his farewell address.
Thought that there were large stocks pre-positioned in Israel for just this eventuality. Or perhaps Israel doesn't want to give them back?
On the other hand, China has a lot of iron/steel free capacity, plus most US manufacturing is now outsourced there. Sure they would be willing to help.
This is bigger than googolplex, dude.
This sounds wrong indeed. Maybe all of our bombs are being SOLD to other countries that have ACTUALLY BEEN bombing ISIS.
If we are running out of bombs trying to decimate a small armed force smaller than Portugal's we are in biiiig trouble!
QUICK! Get the MIC on the phone we need more bombs stat!
GDP is going to,,,ah,,,explode?
Obama spent the last year bombing sand dunes and blowing brush to shit...now, after Putin rubbed his shit-stained nose in the sand and showed the lie for the US campaign by blowing ISIS stolen oil assets to hell, Obama wants to put some meat on his bones. Too bad he squandered our military resources...as he's wasted pretty much everything else.
All they have to do is print more and order bombs from China. There are plenty of empty containers and ships to deliver them anywhere and they need the work as their factories are idle.
Empty targets indeed, Vampyroteuthis.
They're dropping bombs on non-targets cause that's good for business to the defense industry.
Helicopter ordinance??
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151002/1027917146/us-syria-bombings-push...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/16/busted-russians-catch-us-in-fake...
When they talk about sorites flown instead of enemy killed, that's a sign.
Thought we had a huge ammo dump in Israel for staging forward weapons when needed in the ME.....
Oh forgot... We gave them permission to use some in desperate situations.... And they used all of them to pound their Semitic cousins to dust
Save Money.
Drop Nukes.
Save America, drop Obomba!
Drop Chevies.
The lots are full.
Weaponized derivatives.
Dropping them on who? Where are the pictures, video?
>>>Maybe they could borrow some from Russia.<<<
Under normal circumstances, such a suggestion might be credible.
However, one can rest assured that in this brave new world they have been rehypothecated many times over. To be sure, you won't find any in the COMEX vaults.
Don't worry, there are plenty of weapons manufacturers waiting on their no-bid contracts to make bombs. That's pretty pathetic though. What exactly are we getting for our trillion dollar a year war budget?
The military is about 75% a government works project. Like the post office.
Why dont they just drop the budget out of those bombers. Its a weapon in itself
Last week it was "We are holding back because of the carbon footprint massive bomb raids leave behind." Is there anyone thats telling the truth???
Government and Truth? lol what is this the 1940s-50s?
If only there were leaders like Ike around today
"As we peer into society's future, we – you and I, and our government – must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering for, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without asking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow."
If this is democracy, perhaps we can do better.
If only these days were like the 50's again.
We would be stylin'.
Buy 'em from ISIS, they need the money.
wait CNN told me "ISIS is the richest terrorist operation in history"
Load the bombers up with ISIS volunteers wearing suicide vests and drop them on their colleagues. Some folks will go to great lengths to party on with 72 virgins. Add 8 goats to the mix and those ISIS dudes would be trampling over each other to sign on.
Those bomb makers are fapping like Fools as they read this. I love how the Military industrial complex ALWAYS wins no matter who loses. Great propaganda piece Pentagon. The Airforce has enough bombs in their inventory to do this for approximately 300 years and never run out. Qui Bono.
Housing musn't collapse!! Only good jobs are in MIC.
Such a fuck job. First we see evidence that they are bombing empty fields for months. Then we see that a majority of planes return with their munitions still strapped on them. Then, after Russia pulls their pants down, they start bombing.
Now this story comes out to try to make western peibes think that they are actually doing something.
I said matter of factly at the beginning of the year when Iraq, and Iran started teaming up on ISIS, and Syria continued their forward progress that the West better get on board, even if it's a ceremonial effort, or they'd be marginalized. I never dreamed I would be so right.
hire the russian they already do our space launches
The "precision" bombs needed by the US are 10x more expensive than the bombs used by Russia against ISIS. Most of the Russian bombs are low-cost unguided munitions that are precisely delivered on target by a Russian computer system known as SVP-24, which is installed on each aircraft. Unguided but highly accurate delivery of munitions combined with a fleet of reliable and easily maintained aircraft means the Russians can sustain their efforts indefinitely.
Here is a more detailed description of the SVP-24 and munitions used by Russia against ISIS:
http://southfront.org/syria-no-escape-from-retribution/
Smart Airplane-->dumb bomb
Dumb Airplane-->Smart Bomb
Latter seems to be a better choice.
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They hate us for, "today's wars, but also tomorrow's challenges."
Who, other than President Obama, is really suprised that these people living in such hellish conditions want to come to France, Britain, America, and get revenge on those that are bombing their homes?
'They hate us for our Freebombs.' -Kirk, (c) 2015
I for one am still quite capable of being surprised that there is not an order of magnitude more "radicalized" individuals of all stripes and from all corners - the problem-reaction-solution puppeteers can hardly be accused of not trying to make it so...
Perhaps the Explainer-in-Chief can explain what exactly these 20,000 pieces of ordnance have accomplished, other than sustain the MIC and "justify" the defense budget?
Well, they also hate us because their holy book is quite explicit about how infidels must be treated. Hint: it ain't with kindness and compassion.
"
The Quran Distinguishes Muslims from Non-Muslims
and Establishes a Hierarchy of Relative Worth
The Quran makes it clear that Islam is not about universal brotherhood, but about the brotherhood of believers:
Not all men are equal under Islam. Slaves and the handicapped are not equal to healthy free men, for example (16:75-76). The Quran introduces the “Law of Equality,” which establishes different levels of human value when considering certain matters, such as restitution for murder (2:178).
Neither are Muslim believers equal to non-Muslims:
The Quran plainly tells Muslims that they are a favored race, while those of other religions are “perverted transgressors”:
As we shall see later, Allah condemns non-Muslims to Hell based merely on their unbelief, while believers are rewarded with the finest earthly comforts in the hereafter, including never-ending food, wine and sex (56:12-40).
Much of the Quran is devoted to distinguishing Muslims from non-Muslims and impugning the latter. Among other things, non-Muslims are said to be diseased (2:10), perverse (2:99), stupid (2:171) and deceitful (3:73).
The first sura of the Quran is a short prayer that is repeated by devout Muslims each day and ends with these words:
Muhammad was once asked if this pertained to Jews and Christians. His response was, "Whom else?" (Bukhari 56:662).
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Quran-Hate.htm
Got any good stuff on Gentile/goyim treatment from the Talmud? How about some Old Testament verses? No? Just Islam? You're either not a scholar and student of history or you are shilling. Seeing as I've seen you repeatedly brought to task for this exact thing it's starting to look like the latter.
Gee whiz, you're so smart. Why don't you produce some for me?
Islam wants us to submit, convert or die. Judaism just wants us to submit or die.
I want them all dumped in the ME and a big wall erected around it.
Dropped more bombs and less effective than any bombing campaign in history.
Weren't trying to hit anything.
With the possible exception of Rolling Thunder in Vietnam, you're correct I think.
Ironically, we had a bomb shortage during Rolling Thunder too. On the 50th anniversary of Rolling Thunder, it's good to see that the USAF has learned the lessons of the past. /sarc
Sadly, the veterans of Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria (soon to come) will be just as forgotten as the Vietnam vets now are.
We just never learn and it makes getting older even harder.
"Sadly, the veterans of Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria (soon to come) will be just as forgotten as the Vietnam vets now are."
Not by the civilians of Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, or Vietnam.
Who never learns? The elites who plan and execute all this problem-reaction-solution bullshit are doing swimmingly as they did during and after all the conflicts you mention. The only people who aren't learning are the rubes who buy into the "it's Islam!" Propaganda instead of following the money and seeing who has profited from all these wars, coups and police actions. Anyone supporting these wars is either an idiot in the Greek derivation of the word or a direct beneficiary of these wars of aggression.
Except during Rolling Thunder, it was squadrons of B-52s dropping hundreds of tons of bombs at a time.
The "bombing" of ISIS has been a joke. Smaller planes dropping smaller bomb loads, and most of the time, the sorties result in zero bombs being dropped.
JLee2027:
Not sure ww2......was a complete bombing disaster....it's just that the story got told differently......kind of the same b.s. as today.
ww2...more of our bombers were lost by the pilot blowing up (intestinal gas) then were shot down. They also flew in too close of formation and were running into each other and crashing. No one ever changed the formation pattern. Sound familiar?
"Never in the field of human conflict was so much effort spent dropping so few bombs on so many targets."
Rhinestone Cherchbill
But all those holes in the sand!
JLee:
Don't know what the hell u b talkin' about, brotha'
USAF--Dropping bombs to no avail since the Strategic Bombing Survey following WWII.
And all y'all think that the Giant Squid has a racket ;-)
- Ned
Ill buy war bonds if they are backed by claims on middle eastern oil.
The problem is that with regards to ISIS and Islamic Terrorists in general there is nothing to bomb, they live in caves and in the dirt.
Chemical or Biological weapons are the only weapons that would be effective in combating terrorists because 1) They are cheap and 2) They cover a lot of square footage per package.
No one cares if a terrorist drowns in his own blood after his lungs have been turned to liquid shit, weapons kill people if you are at war with an enemy there is no point in showing mercy.
Fight terror with terror if you ask me.
Put the fear of living god in them that they may wake up one morning with their face melted off.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
But three lefts do.
oh yea. I go to the Washington Times for all my believeable news.. This is one part i just dont Understand about ZH or.. when i see the "ABC media " below, Do i ???
When I see an article or something (e.g., Russia Today or sputnik) with that ass-clown Thom Hartman, I stop immediately and close the Website.
Moar bombs needed.isn't this bullish?
yay manufacturing jobs!
someone go get rosie!
Seriously... If this is the US military really trying. Russia would kick their arse. Rather than running out, they could stop bombing sand. I'm sure it surrendered months ago.
Call me a skeptic
Can't tell you how many water buffalo we killed in Viet Nam (and how many sorties went out with a miniscule load just to rack up the sorties).......
You gotta get the flying hours and sorties in if you want to climb the greasy MIC pole to reach lobbyist status.
flight pay
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Makes you wonder if they are just firing off the old ammo
We should tell Hussein Obama that ISIS are all republicans. Then he might actually target them.
Nah, he might hit his golfing buddy John Boehner.
Or give them Confederate flags...
Off stage, the Repub and Democ politicos are all buddies, going to the same exclusive clubs and golf courses.
Hello, Foxconn? Yeah, we need some cheap copies of something built quickly. And since you won't be nearly as busy building iPhones this year we thought you might be interested in doing a little project for us. Interested?
Dey lyen...
What the fuck does this cost?
What's it matter? It's all paid for with printed money anyway.
dats true.
The fucking Americans, British and the French are dropping bombs on the same fucking holes.
What the fuck does that makes them?
About 25 different words come to mind simultaneously.
good golfers?
They must have shorted silver so much they ran out of it to build missiles and bombs.
You mean the B-1's can now fly in different weather conditions?
yep, the bone can fly in the sky during morning weather and afternoon weather, as long as it's clear weather so they can see the highways that match their ESSO maps.
- Ned
USAF must really suck. Been dropping bombs for a year and nothing to show for it.
Putin comes in and degrades ISIS by 80% in three weeks.
USAF is lovebombing ISIS
Funny things happen to your targets when you drop leaflets on oil trucks first instead of bombs. It's almost like, I dunno, they're not trying?
Russia ALSO dropped leaflets. But Russia only gave them about 5 or 10 minutes, not 45.
"he hates these cans!"
Well, when you keep hitting the same crater over and over you don't really have much results...
"Putin comes in and degrades ISIS by 80% in three weeks."
I hope you're right, but I fear the Russian success at slaughtering ISIS is nowhere near 80% at this point. And as far as I know, convoys of oil tankers into Turkey are still in operation, albeit degraded.
If anyone has useful info on Russia's success, please post it. Tks
And yet, that damn sand is still standing.
Wot, no 3-D printers !!! The US looks stupid going bust bombing disposable foot-soldiers in the desert. No wonder they have started bombing Syrian Army bases !
This is a muscle-bound emoire heading for oblivion. With the US taking them on it must seem to the world that ISIS will ultimately win. Has the US had any success in the past 50 years with its Air Force ?
So if the size of the Isis Army is 20 to 30k men and we have fired 20k missiles and bombs it begs the question what the fuck are we not aiming at?
We're talking approximately one bomb/missile per ISIS Jihadi... And they missed... EVERY SINGLE ONE! I think if they were blindfolded and just dropped completely at random they'd have had more effect.
That's also a pretty fucking expensive way to try to kill 30,000 men. How much is each bomb? $100k?
The only credible explanation is Russia's. They're not bombing them. Again. Putin quite simply tells the truth and the American military and media lie.
css:
With Pk > .7 or so, even completely random coverage would end up with some effective BDA. Nope, there is systematic bias in the targeting and intel.
Story is a couple days old. ZH losing its edge.
Running out of bombs to drop on Assad....fixed it for you
This is great news for hospitals.
But not for Americans whose freedoms can't be fought for now...
But what is the goal and how do you measure progress towards that goal ?
OT : Interesting article about drone pilots.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/former-drone-pilots-denounce-morally...
Obama has also frozen their bank accounts. It doesn't pay to expose the venality of Obama.
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/https/russian.rt.com/article/135070
Wrong picture in the article (B-52) casts doubt on article's truthiness.
We should be using A-10s, but I guess its munitions won't make enough profit for the suppliers of war.
think it's a bone, not a buff
Borrow the $1.3B in bombs they sold to their good buddies Hause Saud
Where are they dropping them?
They go dud in the sand.
Not everywhere there is a hospital to hit.
"Where are they dropping them?"
Water treatment plants. Electric generation plants, you know, all the stuff that the average Syrian citizen needs.
200,000 bombs isn't that about 50 for every ISIL terrorist ?
And they are still there.
Great job US.
Where is the proof they are dropping on ISIL? Because .gov said so?
Why is US there?
They need to create Bomb Manufacturing Robots and increase Bomb Manufacturing fast fast.
If they are depleting their stocks just how can they even think of waging a conventional war with Russia in Europe and in Asia Minor (Turkey)?
Of course this MEANS that they are not even considering a plan for a conventonial war with Russia...or China...or North Korea.
Which leaves one option...NUKES.
Those fuckers think that they can win a Nuclear War.
But nuclear summer is right around the corner.
A brief nuclear summer at 6000 Kelvins.
I like my Turkey flash fried - it's just getting the exposure time right at the picosecond level that's got me stumped.
If you do some in depth research, you would find that in everything, from air-to-air weaponry, electronic warfare, missile technology, ICBM's, fleet protection, airframe capability, troop strength and capabilities the US is basically naked. The one thing that they apparently still have that still works is the TOE missile.
TOE missile is a real bastard against foot troops.
The Neo Cons have been expending the US Military for a long time now, attriting it to uselessness.
The traitors have left their "homeland" defenseless.
need to save some bombs for "doctors without limbs" facilities
Their 'homeland' is perfectly well defended, courtesy the $3 billion per year the US pays as tithe to their master.
They could always resort to unsubstantiated slurs about their parentage.
Like "Your mother has cloven hooves!"?
"Give us more money to buy bombs" screams the US military...
There are a lot of unemployed concrete workers during the winter months that could be employed to whip up plenty of mock bombs that do equally well at pulverizing targets,
Standard Disclaimer: http://defensetech.org/2011/04/29/france-using-concrete-bombs-in-libya/
Quick! Call up Sally Field on the phone and ask her to send over a shitload of F-bombs for the UASF to drop on ISIS.....
Running out of bombs now dropping bullshit.
This is beyond stupid. A glut of everything, but we're running out of bombs.
I'll bet Putin fell off his chair laughing over this one.
Memo to General Mark Welsh: Congratulations! You're now a Lieutenant.
Memo to US Fed Gov HR Dept.: Fire at Will.
Response: Which one's Will?
Putin is just waiting for this moment.
"What, you have no more bombs....."
Long bombs.
Make 60,000% over a weekend.
Well I've been reading that pilots are returning with 2/3s of their munitions not fired so I don't know who's bullshitting who.
They save some for a rainy day.
But we've been told the USAF can't fly on rainy days! (that goes double for F35s, I believe they dissolve).
'We need to ensure the necessary funding is in place to not only execute today's wars, but also tomorrow's challenges,'
...but also the wars we haven't started yet.
Fixed it for ya
Little purple lipped fuck in the White castle - he could have ended this over a year ago by just going after their money ie; bomb the fucking oil trucks and oil.
What a fucking waste of a human sperm this little prick is.
The most amazing things happen when a Superpower de-industrializes and sends it's industrial capacity to a hostile power.
So... Bullish for MIC stocks and MIC executive bonuses in the next 1-2 weeks?
Buy MOAR! Bomb MOAR!
'Deficits don't matter' (when USD=GRC), don't ya know? We'll just hoodwink China into joining IMF's SDR.