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Will The IRS Take Your Passport?

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Submitted by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,

A little-noticed provision in the highway funding bill Congress passed this week threatens a right most Americans take for granted: the right to travel abroad. The provision in question gives the Internal Revenue Service the authority to revoke the passport of anyone the IRS claims owes more than $50,000 in back taxes.

Congress is giving the IRS this new power because a decline in gas tax receipts has bankrupted the federal highway trust fund. Of course, Congress would rather squeeze more money from the American people than reduce spending, repeal costly regulations, or return responsibility for highway construction to the states, local governments, and the private sector. On the other hand, most in Congress fear the political consequences of raising gas, or other, taxes. Giving the IRS new powers allows politicians to increase government revenue without having to increase tax rates. Some even brag about how they are “cracking down on tax cheats.”

Pro-IRS politicians ignore how this new power will punish Americans who have actually paid all the taxes they are legally obligated to pay. This is because the provision does not provide taxpayers an opportunity to challenge a finding that they owe back taxes in federal court before their passport is revoked. Because IRS employees are not infallible, it is inevitable that many Americans will lose their right to travel because of a bureaucrat’s mistake.

It is particularly odd that a Republican Congress would give this type of power to the IRS considering the continuing outrage over IRS targeting of “Tea Party” organizations. This is hardly the first time the IRS has been used to intimidate its opponents and/or powerful politicians. Presidents of both parties have used the IRS to target political enemies.

For example, one of the articles of impeachment brought against Richard Nixon dealt with his attempt to have the IRS audit those Nixon perceived as political enemies. During the 1990s, an IRS agent allegedly told the head of an organization supporting then-President Bill Clinton's impeachment, “What do you expect when you target the President?” Can anyone doubt that some Americans will be targeted because an IRS bureaucrat does not approve of their political beliefs and activities?

Some support giving the IRS new powers because they think that those who underpay their taxes somehow raise everyone else’s taxes. This argument assumes that the federal government must collect the maximum amount of taxes because the people cannot do without big government. Of course the truth is that the people would be better off without the welfare-warfare state. Wouldn't we be better off without a national health care program that increases health care costs, or without a war on terrorism that led to the rise of ISIS? Freeing the people from taxation, including the regressive and hidden inflation tax, is just one of the many ways the people will benefit from restoring constitutionally limited government.

As the federal debt increases and the American economy declines, an increasingly desperate Congress will look for new ways to squeeze more revenue from taxpayers. Thus, the IRS will increasingly gain new and ever more tyrannical powers over Americans, including new restrictions on the right to travel or even move capital out of the country. The only way to end the IRS's assault on our liberties is for the people to force Congress to stop looking for new ways to pick our pockets, and instead usher in a new era of liberty, peace, and prosperity by demolishing the welfare-warfare state.

 

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Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:06 | 6891038 joego1
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Who needs a passport? just walk across the Riogrand river.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:08 | 6891050 OpTwoMistic
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How many sitting congressmen are you going to ground?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:28 | 6891165 Chris Dakota
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They can have it, its expired.

I quit flying after 911 when I saw how they treated you at the airport.

Because I would not look at those TSA people while they gave the speech, they pulled me aside for

more checks.

Im done.

I worked on a cruise ship in the late 70s, I was young and curious,  went on 5 world cruises plus all kinds of others, I saw the better world. In 1980 we were the first ship into China, it was like another world looked like 30s Shanghai.

Except for Haifa, worst people in the world that any of us ever met. I was not Jew wise back then but they were abusive to you as customers when their shop was set up for your business.

lucky me

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:33 | 6891201 Escrava Isaura
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By around 2025 about 99% of the American population won’t have passport, and won’t be needing it either.

 

How can you tell?

 

By them the world will be producing less than 50 million barrels of oil daily, if that.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:46 | 6891271 Motasaurus
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"Will the IRS take your passport?"

Only if you let them. 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:57 | 6891327 Escrava Isaura
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I guess you don’t have one.

Passport expires.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:03 | 6891353 boattrash
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Let 'em.

But they should keep in mind, nothing is more dangerous than a cornered animal, with no way out.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:14 | 6891402 Escrava Isaura
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And the American elites know that better than anyone here. They have a track record on the third world. And that blueprint will be brought home.

 

Personally, I don’t think Americans, or anyone, stand a chance, if and when they take US power head on.

 

But, I have been proved wrong before.

 

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:41 | 6891568 Chris Dakota
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Let me tell you what is going to happen.

You are going to have a split in the US military.

States seceding and then you have a breakaway nation with military bases as well.

This is going to be a full blown civil war with 21 century weapons.

It could be avoided by taking out  a few hundred  people in power now though.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 00:42 | 6891990 sun tzu
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By taking them out, I'm sure you mean by the ballot box  ;-)

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:16 | 6893875 RedDwarf
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I take it you'll be getting right on that then?  You'll take a few out to break the ice even though it means your almost certain capture or death?  You've told us, now show us if you really stand behind your words.  If you don't you'll have demonstrated to yourself and everyone else why this isn't going to happen.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:43 | 6891530 James
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It won't be an issue of you "letting" them.

What do you think those numbers on a passport mean?

They are code telling the Customs agent everything pertinent about you.

I'm thinking of a Motown classic by Martha & the Vandellas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLBdDP1HDl4

Here's another ditty - a blast from the past that might be appropiate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJVpihgwE18

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 07:49 | 6892464 jme540
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Snowden made the mistake of letting government revoke his passport.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:08 | 6891384 ISEEIT
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Maybe if WWIII has already ended. Otherwise I would think that figure radically low. Would you prefer coal? If so then yeah..maybe.

Calling anything 10 years out is semi absurd anyway.

Usually.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 00:03 | 6891882 Escrava Isaura
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Not absurd for oil, because oil is measurable.

 

New oil discoveries can not offset depletion.

http://www.testadepibou.com/figuresEN/ProductionEN.jpg

 

Shale/tar sands are not crude oil:

“Canada requires 200 Tcf of natural gas to burn its tar sands. But Canada’s total reserve: 58 Tcf.” — Roland Horne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTsYjRqPmNA#t=46m35s%E2%80%9D 

 

and third, barrels of oil declined per day per rig.

Middle East

2000 Average: 140,144 / 2014 Average: 59,945 =  Minus 57%

US:

2000 Average: 6,465 / 2014 Average: 4,577 =  Minus 29%

World

2000 Average: 36,148 / 2014 Average: 21,698 = Minus 39%

http://peakoilbarrel.com/rig-count-drilling-less-oil/

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 23:11 | 6891701 assistedliving
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if PETROBRAS could maintain a well maybe we wouldnt need a passport either.  Impeach your President yet?

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 01:01 | 6892032 Escrava Isaura
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Petrobrás (Brasil) is not alone. Also, there are other companies in Brasil. But, they are fighting a losing battle. The oil is deep under the ocean. Too expensive, and too difficult  to get to.

 

No one will afford the oil if left to the public sector. So, Petrobrás, just like US banks, will have to be nationalized and reprioritized. Good luck at both nations.

 

I heard Chomsky saying something like the US as spending lots of money within the Brazilian military. Brazilian high ranking militaries. The thing about Chomsky, beside that he is married to a Brazilian, is that Chomsky gets lots of inside information from public officials and researchers.

 

So, I think there might be a high possibility of a coup d’état in Brasil as Brasil will have to push for nationalization and less dollars flow.

 

Anyway, we know the drill. The (US) plan. But I think the reactionaries moves, as desperation sets in within the domestic population, that will eventfully includes US, will create havoc at whatever is planned.

 

 Again, time will tell. And good luck finding common ground.

 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 00:06 | 6891897 1223pm
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These politicians will drag this country in to the stone age. what the hack people will need passport for. We probably will be fighting for a mule then.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 01:11 | 6892061 Escrava Isaura
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Is not the politicians. Or religion. Or economics. These are all human creation. These could go way tomorrow and wouldn’t be missed.

 

However, it is in our genes. Humanity is wired for self destruction. Every mammal is.

 

By now, none of this should come as a surprise to anyone here. Unless, it is your first visit to Zero Hedge.

 

http://regmorrison.edublogs.org/articles/

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:31 | 6891195 Ms No
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I don't think your going to want to cross the Rio Grande before too long.  You will just cross into a situation that has deteriorated while Pentagram Fast and Furious goons are in control.  It will probably end up like Somalia down there.   

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:36 | 6891213 joego1
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I'm in Mexico right now enjoying a frosty Margarita.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:39 | 6891231 Chris Dakota
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nice

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:09 | 6891394 Ms No
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Good for you, be sure to meet some coyotes that can smuggle some gringos in a crowded container headed to South America... we may need it....lol 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 01:19 | 6892096 steveharless
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This works well for the mexicans...why not for me?

 

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:07 | 6891046 IridiumRebel
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I guess most gov employees will be staying stateside.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:09 | 6891054 Seasmoke
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Phew. I am only around $25,000. Guess with interest I might be stuck here by year 2100. 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:56 | 6891434 James
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Seasmoke, you must be new to this.

Your interest and penalty is charged @ 21% per year.

You have less than 4 years as amount due is compounded annually.

Rounded figures -

1st year-25k turns into 30k

2nd year 30k turns into 36k

3rd year 36k turns into 43k

4th year 43k turns into over 50k

Ask me how I know.

Actually, don't.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 23:56 | 6891858 boattrash
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Seasmoke, James is right. I need not ask how he knows.

Maybe the three of us should start a pool, to bet on which one of us get it paid off, or locked up first.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:09 | 6891056 nmewn
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So I guess Charlie Rangel is all paid up now or do TPTB get an automatic Get Out Of Jail Free card?

Jus checkin ;-)

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:16 | 6891107 TeamDepends
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Sharpton too, he's in the tank for $4M or so. That's a lotta water carryin'.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:43 | 6891251 nmewn
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I'm detecting a tax scofflaw pattern here ;-)

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:49 | 6891287 TeamDepends
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#blacktaxdodgerswhofurtherthecauselivesmatter

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:57 | 6891321 nmewn
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Zactly ;-)

In our own way, we starve the beast of its nourishment yet are called villains by "the masses".

Well, so be it then.

#BurnBabyBurn

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:09 | 6891064 adjudged
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Miss Reagan?  I miss Ron Paul.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:46 | 6891247 Chris Dakota
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It's why we gave money we couldn't spare. It's why they ran down the streets with his signs.

I went to look at a house for sale in 2009 and they had a Ron Paul yard sign in front of the barn

they left it there after moving out. Maybe it was a foreclosure , not sure.

Ron Paul was last chance America.

Trump is trying to be that but full on nazi in the process.

Vote for Rand Paul, if he loses write him in.

He is the only one worth a shit.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:11 | 6891073 medium giraffe
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United States of Debtor's Prison.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:11 | 6891074 loregnum
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The world would be a far better place if the IRS did limit moron Americans from traveling anywhere and infecting the world with more American idiocy. I wish there could be an alternate universe where America didn't exist or was blown up in the last few decades so I could see what the world would be like without that plague of a nation. 

Have the first half of the country's existence dealing with black slavery and racism and now they're looking to spend the next however odd long decades being islamphobics, not to mention all the turmoil and pain the U.S has caused multiple countries with the attempted world domination bullshit from all thier invasions and occupations.

I mean fuck, what a damn cancer to the world and the pathetic thing is how probably 98% of all Americans don't see this and think they are great.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:27 | 6891175 TeamDepends
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If you came for the participation trophy, you're just going to have to go to the back of the line. You can do better, bashing Americans you don't even know is no way to go through life, son.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:16 | 6891432 JRobby
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There are a number of GOV agencies that can cause your passport to be revoked.This will just be the latest one.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:18 | 6891444 ISEEIT
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It's the american Government.

Get that? It's not America.

It's the american Government.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 23:31 | 6891770 TheFutureIsThePast
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Last I checked the American government is selected by America and represents them. At least that's how it's supposed to work.

IF YOU ARE A REGISTERED VOTER, YOU ARE THE GOVERNMENT!

The sheer irony in Americans painting others with a broad brush, and then crying like children when it's done to them is just too much.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:34 | 6893546 FixItAgainTony
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An effective democracy requires a majority of the voters have critical thinking skills and also be truthfully informed about the outcomes of govt policy.  The US has neither of these things.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 00:48 | 6892002 sun tzu
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Only black slavery is bad to the Americanphobes. I'm sure no other nations or people dealt in black slavery.

 

Good thing no other nations practiced war or colonialism in the history of mankind. The world would be really messed up then. I remember from history class there were no wars or slavery before 1774. It was like that Coca Cola commercial from the 1970's where everyone sings together and holds hands. LMAO!!!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:13 | 6891088 WhackoWarner
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Nice touch.  So if IRS got serious about this.  Corporations who deliberately off-shore and hide from taxes would be numero uno.  Trap them all.  Billionaires who hide in tax havens.  Clintons, Bushes et al.

 

The list is very long.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:22 | 6891142 Niall Of The Ni...
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You're funny.

Only people who earned their wealth honestly will have their passports confiscated at the airport and hauled off to prison for trying to flee the Republic.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:52 | 6891302 nmewn
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You do realize that under the "progressive" income tax system, corporate taxes are passed right on down to the consumer level, right? If you want a "just" tax system you do it on the spending level, not the earning level.

"Taxes are something you have to pay for doing good?" - Anon...lol.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:11 | 6891398 GhostOfDiogenes
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jeusus Harold christ all you are is a libertopian teddy bear with a speaking draw chord spouting libertoid nonsense.

But I guess like ayn rand and her meth habit, you pull your own chord.

Am I right or am I right? Right.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 23:08 | 6891684 nmewn
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So, was it the "progress" towards another statist path that upset you so much...or was it just cuz I was the one who said it? 

You really don't have to ADMIT how the individual "progressive" income tax system or the corporate tax system works, I already know.

But thanks for the nonsensical OT on Rand & meth (lol) & Libertarian philosophy, I've come to expect exactly those diversions from your kind ;-)

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 00:49 | 6892007 sun tzu
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Don't try using logic on the leftards. They need their safe spaces. Logic is racist. 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:20 | 6891454 ISEEIT
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Just a VAT (of sorts).

MOAR!!!

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 00:50 | 6892009 sun tzu
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You can rest assured that if they passed a VAT, they will not repeal all the other taxes

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:16 | 6891110 Niall Of The Ni...
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Does this really surprise anyone?

To the extent our masters care any more about keeping the borders secure, it's not to keep out barbarians (aka our replacements). It's to keep their own tax- and debt-peons from escaping. If we ever get a wall on the Mexican border, the guns will be pointing north, not south.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 00:52 | 6892013 sun tzu
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I wonder if they would take away our passports if people started building guillotines

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:21 | 6891112 Atomizer
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Can I hand over my hole punched expired passport for leverage? It's only memories you know. They can keep my old one and I'll retain my current. 

Not behind in taxes. But, the Government cannot sustain it's level of spending. Something has to give. 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:21 | 6891133 Kirk2NCC1701
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So, is Ron Paul now advocating that we become DUAL CITIZENS?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:21 | 6891138 Chicken_Little
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It's possible that this is a way to force Americans living abroad in countries with no tax extradition treaties to come back. If you live on renewable visas, a valid US passport is required. If it has expired, they deport you back home right into the IRS's hands at the airport.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:25 | 6891164 Atomizer
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Basically, a search and seize for loose change in your couch cushions. 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:46 | 6891270 Niall Of The Ni...
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  Because this will be enforced against truly wealthy US citizens who live abroad to evade US taxes, as if they can't simply buy a passport in Singapore. Sure.

Back on planet earth, only the little people will risk having their passports cut in half at the airport and being sent upstate for trying to flee tax-peonage.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 03:13 | 6892267 kappal_toba_dhu...
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We moved to Singapore years back from USA.  There are MANY Americanos here and mayh are rich wallas  and they bought their premanent residencies and then apply forcitizenship and they get itand  then they reounce their USA citizenship and THAT IS THAT.

 

VERY EASY FOR THEM - NOT FOR US!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:57 | 6891320 Urban Redneck
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Whether the accused lives abroad or in the in the US irrelevant - it restricts the freedom of movement of people they arbitrarily "portray as rich".  The ones who actually are rich and live overseas might actually be problematic, because they could then hire a lawyer to argue in a local court that they should be granted refugee status as the US is making them a sort of "stateless person" - which could provide an alternative to paying the Nazi exit tax.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 23:30 | 6891763 7.62x54r
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You can buy a carribean island passport by investing a few hundred K in a local project. Some of those passports include EU zone visa privileges.

The only persons targeted by this are middle class tax slaves.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 09:12 | 6892696 grekko
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Some places only require you to open a business and hire a local dishwasher.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 09:10 | 6892691 grekko
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Apply for asylum.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:24 | 6891154 Ms No
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Good gawd... between the bills you cant read, watch lists, IRS political targeting, pending gun grabbing, CDC Ebola patents, everybody can come through the border but nobody can leave, dead journalists and asset forfeiture it's hard to tell whether this is going Bolshevik or Resident Evil.   

On the bright side of things at least we can still gather in groups unlike in France.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:31 | 6891196 Atomizer
Tue, 12/08/2015 - 03:10 | 6892265 kappal_toba_dhu...
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Like the roach motel - you can check in but you can't check out. 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 03:10 | 6892266 kappal_toba_dhu...
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Like the roach motel - you can check in but you can't check out. 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 09:10 | 6892687 grekko
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Welcome to the Hotel California.  Such a lovely place...

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:27 | 6891173 Big Ben
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This is not a new idea:

In the medieval Islamic Caliphate, a form of passport was the bara'a, a receipt for taxes paid. Only people who paid their zakah (for Muslims) or jizya (for dhimmis) taxes were permitted to travel to different regions of the Caliphate; thus, the bara'a receipt was a "traveler's basic passport."

Isn't it funny how the USA, supposedly a "bastion of freedom", is quickly adopting every technique of repression ever invented by the world's most cruel and brutal tyrants?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:27 | 6891174 warsev
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There's clearly not a whole lot of income to be made for the Highway Trust Fund by rescinding passports of a few people. No, this is a mechanism put in place so that the government, through the IRS, can block the travel of anyone it wants to whenever it wants to.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:30 | 6891186 Yen Cross
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  This is like those cockamaimy plans that liberal states use to get the serfs to pay old tickets and such.

  The net gain is actually a loss, because "said" serf wasn't contributing in the first place, and "if " said serf was contributing, his/her means of contributing, has been effectively removed.

 I fully expect the black market to thrive in every way imaginable... I NEVER thought I'd live to see the day that Americans pay to be smuggled into Mexico or Canada.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:44 | 6891250 Atomizer
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They are locking in county and state taxes entitled to Government serfs representing the taxpayers. These wage increases are grandfathered in by 2% yearly increase projected by the FOMC. 

/LOL

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:52 | 6891298 Yen Cross
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  I want to know why every single component of COLA hasn't come down with cheaper energy costs? Energy is a primary input cost for just about everything, except sitting in your basement playing X-Box.

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:07 | 6891379 Atomizer
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Investor quarterly expectation. The joke about infinite exponential growth. You remember, the hockey stick chart. 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:28 | 6891495 Yen Cross
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 You've been doing your homework.  ;-)

 I think the era of buybacks without revenue growth, is coming to an abrupt END.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:43 | 6893616 Hammer of Light
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RIGHT FRACKIN ON POST MATE!

That's an incredible notion and fantasic intellectual prose! I can now totally see this coming as well, and a burgeoning new commodities index called...

"The Human Quotient"

Only in this case, it'll be like Escape from NY or Escape from LA or ESCAPE US GOVERNMENT TYRANNY!

May want to look into becoming a transporter or becoming a high priced, what do the Mexicans call the people who illegally smuggle people into the US?  Oh gee wiz, that's right, "COYOTES"!

Kudos!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:35 | 6891206 Bunga Bunga
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Worldwide hegemony comes comes with a price tag for its citizens.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:36 | 6891214 hotrod
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BET AL SHARPTON STILL GETS TO TRAVEL.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:44 | 6891260 Chris Dakota
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It's who can own a gun, who can travel, who can have a passport.

1% wet dream, unless we ....................first.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 09:04 | 6892674 grekko
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Own a gun?  If Oblama gets his way by outlawing guns for people on the no-fly list it's game over for every un-politically correct person in the country.  BTW, does anyone know the rules about putting someone on the No Fly List?  Do they just pick names out of a hat?  Or do they politically profile people first?

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 09:06 | 6892677 grekko
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Here's an oldie but goodie!

 

The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.

-- Hitler, April 11 1942

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:42 | 6891244 Mr. Crisp
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Never happen here. Only Communist nations do things like this.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:36 | 6893584 Hammer of Light
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Best "sarc" of the day so far! Kudos!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:46 | 6891266 two hoots
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Just a matter of time before we will have to pay our bills?  Who knows what looney idea they will come up for that one?

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:51 | 6891292 Catullus
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This will apply to student loans eventually too.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:57 | 6891326 wisefool
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my foray into academia ended on the day I had to learn tax law. FWIW i paid for the bush/McCaine girls and their 501c3s.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:30 | 6891509 ISEEIT
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No. The student loans will be forgiven so that the State can then teach even more citizens that debt is actually a matter of State authority and the State shall in it's mandate to insure full application of all directives and findings of the various councils and studies (and whatnot)..besides that all modern people must accept that the science of climate change is real and those who oppose this teaching shall be eliminated.

Got it?

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 09:00 | 6892655 grekko
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Good point!  This carbon tax must be passed!  How else can we feed all those poor, starving Dictators around the world?

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 09:56 | 6892989 Hammer of Light
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This is the set up to confiscate guns. The logic is so simple here; this is the back door to total oppression and tyranny.

The TSA was weaponized and militarized this past February as a confiscation agent of the IRS. The TSA already has your financial records when you approach security. The TSA will see your financial history and the "IRS BOLO" ( be on look out) for you or anyone they deem a target of opportunity. This nightmare and whores infection inside the IRS has to be killed with extreme prejudice.

Thus, why you are now seeing all these agencies arming up. This has been in the planning for a long time. This is SAUL ALYNSKY from the grave laughing and squealing at us all. Jeb, Clinto, Rubio all of them nearly are all in on it.

This is in fact the next 10 levels up from arbitrary police Asset Forfeiture. If you think cops are bad at stealing, wait till this program goes into full swing. You're going to see wholesale corruption the likes of which this country cannot fathom.

This is the totalitarian cornucopia of wealth, personal property and an absconding of rights and liberties formula all wrapped up into the TSA/DHS hitsquads for the IRS controlers who are absolutely ran and controlled by BIS, Bank of London, EU and US Central Bankers etc.

This dear friends and adversaries is the masters who controll us primary weapon for the decapitation of these UNited States as well as a model for other governments to follows;

“Financial Guillotine”

When you are targeted to have your life removed arbitrarily, be prepared to remove theirs on the spot when they come to destroy your life and all you have worked for. This is tyranny on the grandest of Machiavelliate deceptions. Whomever put this into the HWY Bill should be rounded up and all of its authors put to death for the treason they have just committed.

This is going to get very ugly people and is only the beginning of how this take down of America is now preceding full throttle.

A piece of investment advice, stop buying gold, silver is the key and he who holds the most "brass" wins!

Gold does not make the rules in a time of chaos, BRASS DOES!

Thus why we are seeing everyone including little liberal old ladies buying up as many guns and brass they can to protect themselves from the certainty of this Armageddon financial crash that  I suspect is already here.

2016 begin the 7 to 10 years of complete and utter destruction for these United State and the world around us as well will burn. LOL people; beans, bullets and a lot of ammo! It’s crazy to think, all the brass I have may be worth more than gold in the coming next few years where as gold, you can’t eat it nor can you shoot with it!

That and gold is ABSOLUTLEY GOING TO BE CONFISCATED again. If you think I’m some whack job Looney Tunes, you best get real acquainted with history.

Executive Order 6102

https://bullion.nwtmint.com/blog/gold-bullion/the-roosevelt-gold-confiscation-of-1933/

This new rider to the HWY Bill as they are called is the prelude to not just taxes, but gold, but everything you have. Our government has gone full on criminal and they are not even hiding it anymore. Lock and Load.

Hear the sound of Liberties Teeth… Clickit! Molon Labe – Semper Fi ~

 

 

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 21:58 | 6891334 Dragon HAwk
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You really think Al Sharpton gets frisked when he goes thru Customs? not even the TSA would touch that slimy Fuck..

 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 13:00 | 6892760 Hammer of Light
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oh dude! Harsh.... But fair!

Yeah that guy is the actual "grease" in greasy politicians!

I can see how being presented with this piece of grease, even the TSA and union of free-ball gropers would shy away from that greasy disgusting lying filthy maggotous diseased whore of a pig politician. lol just a little run on sentence!

Oops! I think I went a little overboard...

Nah, AL Sharpton is a SLIMY F()CK!

Best to wear 3 sets of Nitrile gloves with that diseased pig!

P.S. - and for those of you in GOV who down vote me or in the political sewer of the entrenched gutter of Sharpten, give me all the down votes you can!

Show me who you are the treasonous lying shilling cowards and I'll show you a great target in the mirror you face!

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:02 | 6891346 InnVestuhrr
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I wonder if the IRS would buy my passport for $50K ?

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:13 | 6891418 Atomizer
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Bet they entertain buying forged passports to throw down at a crime scene. You know, the explosion proof passports. 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 08:57 | 6892646 grekko
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Right!  I'll bet those explosion proof passports probably run about $50,000.

Mon, 12/07/2015 - 22:31 | 6891512 Duc888
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USA-ISIS corp.  Land of the free.

Ayup.

 

Keep suckin' that dick and be a good 'murican.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 01:19 | 6892093 Shizzmoney
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I love how they always pass the nefarious shit in bills that have nothing to do with said nefarious shit

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 03:18 | 6892269 kappal_toba_dhu...
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To hand in their USA passports, my sons, both born in USA, will have to fork out about $2400 EACH for the pleasure!  Oh what a free  country!  

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 08:56 | 6892642 grekko
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I think I'll gather my family and apply for asylum in Canada.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:54 | 6894156 Hammer of Light
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Welcome to Asylum in the Canadian Indian MUSLIM Nation!

There is no strategic relocation in North America period.

If you have the means, you best start your flight now while there is time left to do so. The door is about to close hard on the US.

FATCA was the prelude as well as was arming the TSA as the now defacto henchmen of the IRS.

You will not be safe anywhere in Canada or the US soon enough.

I want to stay and fight, but with many children of tender age and families looking to me for guidance, Old Navy knows when it's time to "live to fight another day".

This is going to get very ugly in the coming years. Having an advanced investment strategy to sell or buy into chaos is the main predicate of this narrative.

Areas of extreme growth will be Aquaponics, fish farming, technology incubators and small village settlements which produce all these aspects of the coming new world born of necessity from aftermath Nuclear engagement.

Every ounce of my military and business experience tells me this is a fight that cannot be won in the US or anywhere in the Norhtern Hemisphere as yo uare playing a game of utter madness with men and woman of total psychopathy.

I suspect there is no way to materially stop what is in motion now unless we elect someone who goes in and literall pulls a Ross Perot and as he said; "when I get into office, I'm gonna clean house".

The most sad element of all this is that all of what is happening is an utter fools game with ZERO WINNERS TO HEDGE!

You many want to start looking into a very large long range bigger than 50 foot sail boat with dual water desal systems, solar and a 20 yacht battery backup system and be literally living on the US coast for when the first of many nukes goes off in the US. The deeper the SW of FL or Gulf states the better. Do not go to Tampa as CentCOM MacDill AFB (US Strategic Forces Central Command) is a primary target in the first volly of the FIRST STRIKE PACKAGE first 10 locations in the opening strike.

Your first 72 hours will determine if you live or die years later instead of the first 30 days or less.

DO NOT STOP PREPARING

Hear the sound of Liberties Teeth… Clickit! Molon Labe – Semper Fi ~

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 04:31 | 6892328 nosam
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This has nothing to do with money. After all they can print as much as they want.

This is just another nail in freedoms coffin.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 08:26 | 6892545 chistletoe
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This is already happening ....

One of my associates has ALREADY had his passport taken from him, merely on account of back due "child support payments" ... never mind that the child is now an adult supporting himself while the mother is an alcoholic in an institutiion .....

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 09:22 | 6892740 TheReal_JimmyK
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What about states that now require a passport for travelinside the US?

And another interesting fact, depending on what state you are from, you can't even get into the IRS building without a passport. (they don't accept licenses from certain staits as legitimate identification.)

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:28 | 6893443 Hammer of Light
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As intended mate and an excellent point!

This new Financial Guillotine will be used to trap people in states as well as prevent people from CAPITAL FLIGHT out of the US.

That's what the intended first line of attack is for this new whore of policy.

Secondly, it will be tied directly into HIPPA, yes HIPPA as I believe it already is thorugh several other adjoining policies which give the IRS henchmen who are the DHS nad the front line enforcers the TSA, extreme ability to  be used for gun confiscations.

The government has deemed people unfit to financially manage themselves already, that should have their guns confiscated for not being able to manage their finances. This s absolutely on the menu people.

Oh what a web we weave when we practice to decieve.

Read my post above mate, it's truly diabolical what we have coming.

This is about controlling movement, controlling people, about legal absconding for political purposes (IRS Tea Party ring a bell)  and decapitating America.

This will be used as a completely destructive weapon politcally. Make no mistake, this is a calculated move that's been in the works for quite some time.

Those who wrote this bill and their enablers must be arrested, tried for treason and executed for the criminal state they are.

May God Damn their souls to burning in Hell - Roasted slowly for eternity over perditions flames.

MAY GOD DAMN YOU US GOVERMENT THIEVES, WHORES AND LIARS!

Best get prepped up mate or be ready to leave the US by ship. Once this goes into lockdown, you are so f()cked beyond F()cked.

A national security event is already planned for the locking down of the US.

It will be nuclear. Once they have us all locked in, it'll be a free for all.

The only way out of this at this point is to literally show up in DC, with armed posse and physically drag these diseased criminals out of their frackin chairs and put them in cages awaiting trial for execution by hanging or firing squad.

I'll be kind, they (the guilty as sin) get to choose which they prefer. Either way, the cost of the rope or shell will be billed to the family of the executed.

DO NOT STOP PREPARING

Hear the sound of Liberties Teeth… Clickit! Molon Labe – Semper Fi ~

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 11:10 | 6893010 Hammer of Light
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What do you need to decapitate America?

Of course;

“The Financial Guillotine”

 

This is the set up to confiscate not just wealth but guns. The logic is so simple here; this is the back door to total oppression and tyranny.

The TSA was weaponized and militarized this past February as a confiscation agent of the IRS. The TSA already has your financial records when you approach security. The TSA will see your financial history and the "IRS BOLO" ( be on look out) for you or anyone they deem a target of opportunity. This nightmare and whores infection inside the IRS has to be killed with extreme prejudice.

Thus, why you are now seeing all these agencies arming up. This has been in the planning for a long time. This is SAUL ALYNSKY from the grave laughing and squealing at us all. Jeb, Clinton, Rubio all of them nearly are all in on it.

This is in fact the next 10 levels up from arbitrary police Asset Forfeiture. If you think cops are bad at stealing, wait till this program goes into full swing. You're going to see wholesale corruption the likes of which this country cannot fathom.

Talk about criminal tactical one upsmanship right! What's the old saying?

"Don't steal, the government hates competition"

This is the totalitarian cornucopia of wealth, personal property and an absconding of rights and liberties formula all wrapped up into the TSA/DHS hit squads for the IRS controlers who are absolutely ran and controlled by BIS, Bank of London, EU and US Central Bankers etc.

This dear friends and adversaries is the masters who controll us primary weapon for the decapitation of these United States as well as a model for other governments to follow;

 

“Financial Guillotine”

 

When you are targeted to have your life removed arbitrarily, be prepared to remove theirs on the spot when they come to destroy your life and all you have worked for. This is tyranny on the grandest of Machiavelliate deceptions. Whomever put this into the HWY Bill should be rounded up and all of its authors and enablers put to death for the treason they have just committed.

This is going to get very ugly people and is only the beginning of how this take down of America is now preceding and proceding full throttle.

This is also how they will morph this policy into protecting the US from "capital flight" as investors and those who wil labsolutely try to escape this Financial Tyranny do.

This has everything to do with control, capital flight all the while making it legal for them to do it. Hmmm. much like everythign HItler did was considered legal as it was LAW.

This is unconstitutional on every possible level.

A piece of investment advice, stop buying gold, silver is the key and he/she who holds the most "brass" wins!

Gold does not make the rules in a time of chaos, BRASS DOES!

Thus why we are seeing everyone including little liberal old ladies buying up as many guns and brass they can to protect themselves from the certainty of this Armageddon financial crash that  I suspect is already here.

2008/2015 the set up for the real financial and holocaust of the northern hemisphere. 2016 will begin the 7 to 10 years of complete and utter destruction for these United State and the world around us as well will burn.

LOL people; beans, silver and a lot of BRASS ammo! It’s crazy to think, all the brass I have may be worth more than gold in the coming next few years where as gold, you can’t eat it nor can you shoot with it!

That and gold is ABSOLUTLEY GOING TO BE CONFISCATED again. If you think I’m some whack job Looney Tunes, you best get real acquainted with history.

Executive Order 6102

https://bullion.nwtmint.com/blog/gold-bullion/the-roosevelt-gold-confiscation-of-1933/

This new rider to the HWY Bill as they are called is the prelude to not just taxes, but gold and everything you have. Our government has gone full on criminal and they are not even hiding it anymore. Lock and Load.

They're closing in on us now people. Time to prepare like you've never prepared.This is a take down scenario people. The truly terrifying part of this is that it's being done in a super stealth low profile manner.

No matter whether is a battle hardened assasin or a suit with a pen and cell phone, this is the harvestor undertaker for America and the now made public mechanism of death is the "Financial Guillotine".

        DO NOT STOP PREPARING

Hear the sound of Liberties Teeth… Clickit! Molon Labe – Semper Fi ~

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 12:22 | 6893925 MorningWood
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I'm sure there's an Al Sharpton exemption in there somewhere.

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