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America's Reckless Fight Against Evil: Six Mistakes On The Road To Perpetual War
Authored by Ira Chemus via TomDispatch.com,
Oh, no! Not another American war against evil!
This time, it’s the Islamic State (IS). After the attacks in Paris, Barack Obama, spokesman-in-chief for the United States of America, called that crew “the face of evil.” Shades of George W. Bush. The “evildoers” are back. And from every mountaintop, it seems, America now rings with calls to ramp up its war machine.
By the way, George W., how did that last war against the “evildoers” work out for you? Not quite the way you expected, right? I bet you didn’t imagine that your Global War on Terror would plant the seeds of an Islamic State and turn significant stretches of Iraq (and Syria) into fertile soil in which IS would grow into a brand new, even more frightening enemy.
But that’s the way wars against evil always seem to work.
Pardon me if I vent my exasperation with all the Washington policymakers, past and present, surrounded by their so-called experts and those war-drum-beating pundits in the media. I know I shouldn’t be shocked anymore. I’ve seen it often enough as a historian studying wars against evil in the past -- ever since biblical times, in fact -- and as a citizen watching wars in my own lifetime, ever since the one that tore Vietnam (and, incidentally, America) apart.
Still, it drives me crazy to watch policymakers and experts making the same dumb mistakes time after time, several mistakes, actually, which synergistically add up to one self-defeating blunder after another.
What’s worse, the dominant trend in public opinion is so often on the side of just those mistakes. You’d think someone would learn something. And in that someone I include “we, the people,” the nation as a whole.
Yet now, facing the Islamic State, you guessed it: we’re doing it all over again.
Let me try to lay out our repetitive mistakes, all six of them, one by one, starting with...
Mistake Number One: Treating the enemy as absolute evil, not even human.
Barack Obama called the Paris tragedy “an attack on all of humanity,” which means that, even for the president, IS fighters stand outside that category. They are evidently some other species and merely appear to be human. And this was the mildest of descriptions in this overheated political season of ours. “The face of evil” sounds modest indeed compared to the vivid images offered by the Republicans vying to replace him. For Ben Carson, IS are a bunch of “rabid dogs”; for Ted Cruz, “scorpions.” Donald Trump calls them "insane," "animals."
All point to the same dangerous conclusion: Since we are human and they are not, we are their opposite in every way. If they are absolute evil, we must be the absolute opposite. It’s the old apocalyptic tale: God’s people versus Satan’s. It ensures that we never have to admit to any meaningful connection with the enemy. By this logic, it couldn’t be more obvious that the nation our leaders endlessly call “exceptional” and “indispensable,” the only nation capable of leading the rest of the world in the war against evil, bears no relationship to that evil.
That leads to...
Mistake Number Two: Buried in the assumption that the enemy is not in any sense human like us is absolution for whatever hand we may have had in sparking or contributing to evil’s rise and spread. How could we have fertilized the soil of absolute evil or bear any responsibility for its successes? It’s a basic postulate of wars against evil: God’s people must be innocent.
As a result, we don’t need to look at all the ways in which the U.S., even in battle mode, continues to contribute to the successes of Islamic State fighters in Sunni Arab lands by, for instance, supporting an Iraqi Shi’ite regime in Baghdad that has a grim history of oppressing Sunnis, a history that drives many of them to tolerate, or even actively support IS.
By refusing a future role of any sort for Syria’s president Bashar al-Assad, we have hindered the diplomatic process that might heal the civil war in that country. Instead we let the Syrian chaos continue as a breeding ground for IS expansion (though perhaps this policy is just beginning to change). Our long-term alliance with Saudi Arabia is equally counterproductive, protecting funding networks that feed a burgeoning caliphate.
Just as we don’t look at all this in the present, so we blind ourselves to what the U.S. has done in the past. Consider this...
Mistake Number Three: Call it blotting out history. We lose the ability to really understand the enemy because we ignore the actual history of how that enemy came to be, of how a network of relationships grew up in which we played, and continue to play, a central role.
The historical record is clear for all who care to look: The U.S. (the CIA in particular) was a key to the creation, funding, and arming of the mujahidin, the rebel fighters in Afghanistan who took on the Soviet army there in the 1980s, the men (often extreme Islamists) whom President Ronald Reagan compared to our founding fathers. From that situation came al-Qaeda.
George W. Bush’s invasion of Iraq cracked the region open and paved the way for the Islamic State. The Bush administration tore Iraq to shreds and then demobilized Saddam Hussein’s army and dispatched its members to the unemployment lines of a wrecked country.
One of those shreds, al-Qaeda in Iraq, populated by disaffected officers from that disbanded army, would later transform itself into the nucleus of the new Islamic State movement. Indeed the U.S. nurtured the present leadership of that movement in American military prisons in Iraq, where we introduced them to each other, so to speak. The process was at least hastened, and perhaps ultimately caused, by the vehement anti-Sunni bias of the Shi’ite Iraqi government, which the U.S. installed in power and also nurtured.
To sustain our image of ourselves as innocents in the whole affair, we have to blot out this empirical history and replace it with a myth (not so surprising, given that any war against evil is a mythic enterprise). That’s not to say that we deny all the facts. We just pick and choose the ones that fit our myth best.
In that tale, the enemy is simply what Christians for centuries have called the devil, which brings us to...
Mistake Number Four: We assume that the enemy, like Lucifer himself, does evil just for the sake of doing it. Even the most liberal parts of the media often can’t see IS fighters as more than “lunatics” bent on “slaughter for its own sake.”
Under such circumstances, what a foolish task it obviously is even to think about the enemy’s actual motives. After all, to do so would be to treat them as humans, with human purposes arising out of history. It would smack of sympathy for the devil.
Of course, this means that, whatever we might think of their actions, we generally ignore a wealth of evidence that the Islamic State’s fighters couldn’t be more human or have more comprehensible motivations. In fact, if you look hard enough, you can find evidence of just that.
The Atlantic, for instance, gained some attention for publishing an article by Graeme Wood that explored the complex religious ideas of the IS movement. In the New York Review of Books, Scott Atran and Nafes Hamid offered insights from people who had taken the time to actually talk with IS fighters or former fighters about its strategy and their own motives in becoming part of it. In this manner, Atran and Hamid helped explain the great mystery of IS (if you believe it is an inhuman organization): How can it attract so many young followers, especially from the U.S. and Europe? Why do some disaffected young men and women find the movement “profoundly alluring”?
Olivier Roy, a leading scholar of political Islam, has answered that many of these youth, full of “frustration and resentment against society,” are lured by the fantasy of joining a “small brotherhood of super-heroes.” But a recent study by the Program in Extremism at George Washington University, full of rich details on American IS supporters, concluded that “their motivations are diverse and defy easy analysis.”
Add up this sort of evidence and you’re likely to come to a startling and, in our present context, deeply unsettling conclusion. It’s not just that IS fighters are distinctly human, but that in some ways they are eerily like us. After all, we, too, have a military that uses an ideological narrative to recruit young people and prepare them to be willing to die for it. Our military, too, is savvy in using social media and various forms of advertising and publicity to deploy its narrative effectively. Like IS recruits, youngsters join our military for all sorts of reasons, but some because they are rootless, disaffected, and in search of a belief system, or at least an exciting adventure (even one that may put them in danger of losing their lives). And don’t forget that those young recruits, like the IS fighters, often have only the sketchiest grasp of what exactly they are signing up to die for or of the nature of the conflicts they may be involved in.
Our state ideology is, of course, secular. But most of us are certainly familiar personally (or at one remove) with American religious fundamentalists whose beliefs share much with the IS narrative. On both sides, people want to turn back the clock of history and live according to a sacred plan supposedly etched in stone many centuries ago.
There are, in fact, striking parallels -- and I say this as a professor of religious studies -- between the evangelical mood and methods of our fundamentalists and those of the Islamic State. Both agree that one must choose between God’s truth (derived from an ancient text) and the devil’s. Both offer the psycho-social comfort of a community supposedly living by immutable laws. Some of our fundamentalists, like the Christian Reconstructionists, would be happy to see this nation governed under religious law, as long as it’s their religion we’re talking about.
Whatever any of us think of our homegrown fundamentalists, we would hardly deny them their humanity, even if we often wonder what leads them to such (to many of us) strange beliefs. So here’s the question: Why shouldn’t we be just as curious about the believers of the Islamic State, even if they are our enemies?
Remember, to understand is not to justify. Quite the opposite, understanding often opens up ways of thinking more constructively and creatively about how to respond to such a challenge. It’s clear that Islamic State strategists understand American and European political cultures well indeed and, as they’ve repeatedly shown, they use that understanding to their grim advantage. They know just how to provoke us into anti-Muslim rhetoric and belligerent policies, which they find most useful to their project and their movement. Like classic judo warriors, they employ our immense strength remarkably effectively against us.
Every one of Washington’s words and acts of war, every ally like Great Britain that joins the bombing campaign against IS, only confirms the Islamic State’s message that Muslims are under attack by the West. All of it only plays into the IS’s own apocalyptic worldview. Every step in the process makes the IS more attractive to Muslims who feel oppressed and marginalized by the West. So think of every threat uttered in the presidential campaign here and every bomb now being dropped as yet more global recruitment posters arriving “like manna from heaven” for that movement. Each is an invitation to launch yet more Paris-style attacks.
Our blindness to them as human beings, and to all the ways we have influenced them, increases their power and undermines our power to shape the outcome of events in Iraq, Syria, and elsewhere in the Greater Middle East. Ironically, we accept this loss of power willingly, even eagerly, because it allows us to hold on to what seems to matter most to us: our vision of a war against inhuman evildoers, which brings us to...
Mistake Number Five: To convince ourselves that the Islamic State is evil incarnate, we imagine that the enemy is as relentless, intractable, and implacable as the devil himself. As a result, we also imagine that nothing we could do might diminish their will to evil. Since, as we see it, we had nothing to do with creating these monsters, no changes in our policies or actions could possibly influence their behavior. And since they are just crazy -- not capable of normal rationality -- there is no point in trying to talk with them.
By this route we finally, inevitably, arrive at...
Mistake Number Six: The belief that we have only one option: annihilation. Or if that proves impossible, despite the military forces at our disposal, then at least containing them forever.
In fact, the presidential candidates of this moment all demand annihilation and nothing less. In Donald Trump’s words, “bomb the shit out of ‘em.” In Hillary Clinton’s more demure formulation, “crush ISIS... break the group’s momentum and then its back.” Even Bernie Sanders agrees: “Our priority must be... to destroy the brutal and barbaric ISIS regime.”
The dream of a war of annihilation against evil has a long, long history in white America. It began in 1636 when Puritans in New England wiped out the Pequot tribe, promising that such a lesson would prevent further attacks by other tribes. In fact, it created a spiral of violence and counter-violence, and a war-against-evil template that the country still follows nearly four centuries later in its “war on terror.” The current conflict in Iraq and Syria seems only to be locking us into that template and its guaranteed cycle of violence ever more firmly.
Why do we as a nation keep on playing into the same dismal scenario and committing the same mistakes? Why this seemingly irresistible urge to fight yet another war against evil?
I worry that the answer to such questions may lie in what I’ve called an American myth of national insecurity. It tells us that we will always be at war with evildoers bent on destroying us; that this war (whichever the latest one may be) is the mission and the meaning of our nation; and that the only way to feel like a real American is to enlist permanently in permanent war.
In other words, even as we stoke the Islamic State, we stoke ourselves as well. The longer we fight, the more deeply we are seized by fear. The more we fear, the more fiercely we are determined to fight. Perhaps the point is not to win the war but to remain trapped in this vicious circle, which feels perversely comforting because it offers a sense of unified national identity as nothing else can in our otherwise deeply divided nation.
National myths are, however, invented by human beings, and we are always capable of changing our minds. Who knows? Maybe someday the Islamic State will figure out that brutal killing and other acts of horror in the name of the caliphate are not such a good idea after all. And maybe the United States will figure out that depending on an eternal, self-defeating war against evil for our national identity is a huge mistake after all. Maybe.
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Because perpetual war means moar money and power to those who sell us on the idea that there are no six mistakes.
News interruption:
“a judge said he did not know enough about the Tolkien creature to make an appropriate decision, five experts were ordered to conduct an investigation into Gollum’s moral character before the next phase of the trial begins in February.”
Even the most liberal parts of the media often can’t see IS fighters as ore than “lunatics” bent on “slaughter for its own sake.”
Um, no. That's exactly what they're doing. For the same reason that looters loot during a riot. Because they can.
Because those libtards are IN BED with the ISIS bitch
kinda like this
http://goo.gl/7tHnDu
They are not mistakes at all. Only by continuous wars do the Israeli-Neocons who did the 9/11 False flags keep their heads.
These treasonous bastard criminals will be arrested and executed, many dozens of them in governments around the world, for their participation in that criminal act, the coverup and the criminal wars that followed.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/12/08/the-next-nuremberg-trials/
9/11 was a False Flag operation by the Israeli-Neocons in the US Government
Gawd, not another fruitcake? you people make me sick...do us a favor and try another tactic, your drivvel is boring me. Most of what you read on the internet or hear on lamestream media are lies. Unless you know the truth STFU
So prove me a fruitcake. Come on, debate. Tell me the great truths you know, I will tell you the ones I know, and we will let people reading decide who is right?
You won't. Nobody debates 9/11, you only call names. You don't debate 9/11 or any of the associated events because you lose, and I will be very happy to help show that right here, now, if you doubt me.
Debate me.
Come on little hasbara, I am still here. Where did you go?
As I say, these people never debate, because they lose. There is no case for the government, it was lies, and the lies are now well known.
Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth is a fine web site with very good videos describing the actual evidence, scientific analysis, engineering understanding.
I watched Roth tonight, that was another revelation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdP95oSoOFk
Hasbara who sullies the name of a great OS :
Just to let you know I came back every few minutes for the next hour. If you had intended to do more than call me bad names and run, you could have debated.
They never debate, they lose.
And the Israeli-Neocons who did 9/11 as a False Flag operation will hang if peace is allowed, so there will be no peace, and no rational step will ever be taken to peace by an Israeli-Neocon government.
We have to get these people out of national politics and into jail, or no country in the world has any good future.
9/11 is most important as a mesure of the control of your mind by MSM : The case for 9/11 The False Flag is as tight as anything outside of a lab can be, it is widely understood to have been a false flag all around the world, yet it cannot be debated in any MSM forum, and MSM and our governments are burning credibility and legitimacy at a high rate. Our Pentagon and State Dept and White House spokesmen are laughing stocks of the world.
So the 9/11 conspirators and associates are losing in reality and in political estimation, opposition is building.
I am so looking forward to the trials in Nuremberg ! I think we need a lottery for membership in the rope-pulling crew. We could pay off the world's national debts with the proceeds.
The driving force behind the US blunders in ME is the neocon plan of surrounding Israel with democracies. Of course the side issue was profiting from the conflicts by M/I complex. The whole evil business is cover.
But it's not just 9/11 though is it?
People have been well and truly Fukushimad.
How about 7/11? How about Yugoslavia, Ukraine, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Palestine, Paris...and the rest!
His-story appears just that! a complete fabrication of lies and deceit, spread throughout the world.
People need to unite through TRUTH and support eachother which is easier said than done when most of our media is so-controlled.
Only the very minority know all. Even those higher up the Government or Military ladder are only aware of a snippet of information. On the whole they are fed the same ####hit and lies as everyone else. They genuinely believe they are doing the right thing.
Its not a 'mistake', its a plan & a strategy.
Its successful, ultimately because of American 'schooling'.
Most Americans won't read a single serious book after graduating from h.s. or college. Those who make up the military, come from this same background. Trainers groan that they can not get officers who they are to instruct, to read anything beyond a few pages.
Such a population has no critical thinking capacity. They are easily swayed by media propaganda. It is a place where 'American Sniper' is a hit movie and where baseball caps with the movie title are sold at gas stations. Some asked how Germans could go along with someone like Hitler ? The answer is readily apparent in America today.
So we should try a "charm offensive"?
No more wars - just un-favorite them on Facebook.
That'll fuck them right up.
Even terrorist extremists got feelings too.
Where's my peace prize, Obie Wan Kabama ?
LOL un-favorite on fuckbook, yep...these leftists will stoop to new levels of stupidity to further their cause.
Obama ought to know; he is the expert on evil.
Mistake #1
Ignoring corrupt points of control, thereby ignoring Principle and Rule of Law.
That's the mistake from which there is no recovery.
Complicit, then.
You historian, you.
Who is this asshole writer? What a fucking liar, mixing in just enough truth to make it plausible...he is just a tool of the left to demonize America...he has lots of company here! like falak penis and samasarass, jamima, johnny horseshead and the nu yawk fruitcake
The windshield cowboy and Obamao are all progressives, THAT is the problem...we gotta stop these kind of people
Come on. Do I actually have to repeat what everyone knows already? ISIS is a CIA/Mossad invention to invade Syria after they failed with the chemical weapons bullshit in August 2013. They recruited spooks, mercenaries and every jobless teen milling around in the ME, put them through the CIA training camps in Jordan and let them loose on Iraq and Syria with huge logistics support.
Doesn't it strike anyone else as odd that the slick ISIS public relations productions only serve to incite disgust, hate and revulsion in every sane person, including their own muslims? Shit, most of their victims are muslim. WTF kind of marketing is that? It's positively cartoon evil for kids and retards.
LOL, ISIL is the creation Barack Obama, who withdrew Iraq too early (I never agreed with that war), and then funded and armed islamisc terrorist...with the help of McCain...both progressive asshats.
as to PR, you can set up a studio very easliy and cheaply nowadays, they have the help of many nationalities going over there to join them, with much expertese. It is disgusting.
Mistake #7 which really should be #1; mind our own fucking business as per the United States Constitution.......
Mistake number seven: cling to fantasy that US is The Good Guy©.
Forgive me. It's late. I just read the headline, and got the sense of the text to follow, and would say:
We must agree to disagree. I have never known any American in civilian life or military who wants war as a means to feel good about themselves. I have only known people to back war for other reasons. And those reasons are how cynical moneychangers and hateful powerbrokers pull on people's heart strings.
The fear of losing is all in the minds and pockets of the war profiteers who push others to fight. That is socialism, communism, nazi and corporatist 101. Currently, they vet all candidates for national election, and present the USA with the one War Party.
Which pig with lipstick do you like? Drumpf, Hitlery, Rubio-bot, Bush BS or the softer version of fascist: Bernie or Carson.
All forced to vow allegiance to the Rothschild led City of London's fiefdom, genocidal Israhell and all determined to betray the Constitution for their money and status, pulling the ignoranti along.
Hi V
You are correct.
Intrinsically and on the whole, I don't think any American, UK citizen or other foreign National wants war. It is forced on us through deceit by a tiny minority of Global operators wth no allegiance to anyone except themselves.
Mind-control (GOVERN - control MENT - mind) of others.
The military are used more than they realise. They are brainwashed to accept all commands and are taught to question nothing for the sake of themselves and their fellow officers. Anyone who does not comply is ousted or heavily penalised.
TRUST is such a huge human emotion.
Those who can't trust themselves, certainly won't trust anyone else. The Rothschilds et al need to watch their own backs carefully and thoroughly. Hopefully, this will be their downfall as those in this cesspit infight, accuse and berate eachother.
The biggest shame is for all those unawares caught in their war games and cross-fire, who have little choice but to fight-back and/or watch this unfold.
The media are the very worst of all evil for spreading lies and propoganda. TRUTH alone would surely stop all the current wars!
US freedoms began to seriously erode just about the time it set forth to "make the world safe for democracy". Now the US itself is neither safe, nor is it a democracy.
Democracy is mob rule, easily manipulated. The colonies became a Republic. The Rothschild led City of London and the Crown got it back again with the founding of the un-Federal no-Reserve Board in 1913. This too shall pass...as its insolvent banks come crashing down and London and Tel Aviv die too.
We have met evil and the evil is us.
America IS the evil
1) KILL THE BANKERS
2) KILL THE ELITIST SWINE
.....no need for any other numbers
They are killing themselves. We need only stay out of their crosshairs. But I do know how you feel, jamaica jim. Stay safe.
Annihilation. I like the sound of that word. Have no fear of annihilating the bastard bankers who've subjugated the world.
Damnit here I go again, I can't keep doing this, go ahead and waste your lives posting on this website and doing nothing about it...ok ZH I am not going to do this any more, I am signing off for the last time...I know most of you will throw a party, pop a cork and say you won (you really havent, nobody wins this time). I have not given up or changed mindsets, I am going to finish preparations for armaggedeon from the ME and civil war here, it's gonna be nasty, I have lived through one, I doubt I will live through this one. It will be worse than your worst nightmare x 1,000,000,000, if you don't believe me, you will find out.
the world is FUCKING INSANE...I will be much happier not reading this crap, and some the inane comments...
I hope you all live through what is to come, even the assholes, but I doubt anyone will...I am OUT voluntarily, and for my sanity.
I am sure the standard put downs will follow, I could care less, have a cigar!
I'll miss you
Bye asshole, good luck to you on the Trump campaign.
Our biggest mistake lies in assuming that these are really mistakes, and not carefully planned moves to ensure the very outcome we now have: perpetual war in the Middle East! When a series of events culminates in a situation that is perfect for the war mongers of the world, I think the best assumption is that said events were planned.
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don
Lucifer gets a bad rap. All he wanted to do was decide for himself, literally. Saying "Non serviam" ("I will not serve") was the "sin" that got him cast from Heaven. (Lucifer spoke Latin, apparently.)
The article above managed to combine many of the kinds of ERRORS that are due to superficial analysis. Several comments posted above already made the point that it is rather ridiculous to presume that there were somehow Unintended Consequences, due to prolonged patterns of making the same MISTAKES over and over again:
The general issue of "Unintended Consequences"
raises the method of interpretation that relies upon
presumptions based on applying Hanlon's Razor:
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
IN THE ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE, then Hanlon's Razor makes good sense, as a particular application of the generally valid use of Occam's Razor. However, more and more, given the abundance of relevant evidence that is now publicly available, people who tend to presume to use Hanlon's Razor are doing so through their own deliberate ignorance and willful blindness. In the case of both the so-called "War on Drugs," and now the "War on Terror," those were deliberately designed and implemented by the ruling classes, in order for the resulting social situations to become such that they achieved what they ACTUALLY INTENDED, therefore, they succeeded.
Various mainstream morons and reactionary revolutionaries continue to accept at face value the biggest bullies' bullshit social stories, and therefore, tend to apply Hanlon's Razor to the interpretation of events. While it may well be correct to regard the political puppets, and the muppets that vote for them, as being incompetent political idiots, and that their actions are due to stupidity, there are actually Deep State Shadow Governments, which have been controlling the public governments.
THEREFORE:
Most of the apparently "Unintended Consequences" and/or MISTAKES were due to MALICE, rather than stupidity! The "evils" are more inside those who are actually controlling the political systems, rather than in those that the label of "evil" is projected upon.
There are much deeper reasons for how and why those are the actually operating mechanisms! There do exist, and must necessarily exist, death control systems. The most important thing that those death controls do is back up the debt controls. The long history of successful warfare based upon backing up deceits with destruction morphed to become successful finance based upon governments enforcing frauds by privately controlled banks. Those social situations did NOT happen due to any accidents, through "Unintended Consequences," and making MISTAKES, but rather were due to the prolonged and persistent applications of the methods of organized crime.
Anyone who does NOT use enough unitary mechanisms regarding politics, but rather, continues to use the same old dualities, false fundamental dichotomies and related impossible ideals, in order to misunderstand how and why governments ended up necessarily being the biggest forms of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, can NOT possibly understand the "War on Drugs" nor the "War on Terror." Rather, they will tend to use Hanlon's Razor to presume that there were "Unintended Consequences," such as when the "War on Drugs" turned into a perpetual, worsening apparent failure, while the "War on Terror" drives worse and worse blowback, as manifestations of those various lower levels of organized crime and terrorism, which were originally aided and abetted by the biggest forms of organized crime and terrorism, the bankster controlled governments.
We are living inside of an oxymoronic scientific dictatorship, where science and technology are primarily employed through social pyramid systems that were built on the basis of being able to back up lies with violence, which became more sophisticated systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence. We do NOT live in a genuinely scientific society, since, so far, the prodigious progress in physical science has been kept compartmentalized, due to it having to compromise with the biggest bullies' bullshit world views, where the social successfulness of the ruling classes is based upon their having waged war against the consciousness of those they ruled over.
I REPEAT THE ESSENTIAL POINTS:
There are, and must necessarily be, some death control systems, that back up some debt control systems. Those have become most socially successful through being done in the most deceitful and fraudulent ways. At the present time, it is politically impossible to have any better public debates regarding the various issues of apparent "Unintended Consequences," and/or policies which make MISTAKES & BLUNDERS, because the first and foremost of those are causing deaths. Actually causing deaths have developed through artificial selections systems which were most socially successful when done in the most deceitful and treacherous ways possible. Based upon that kind of success, civilization became almost totally controlled by the best available professional hypocrites.
Those problems are way more profound than most people are willing and able to think about! Certainly, the article above was all too typical in presenting another superficial analysis, implicitly applying Hanlon's Razor to presume there were repetitions of patterns of MISTAKES, rather than premeditation or malice aforethought. The ultimate manifestations of "Unintended Consequences" are that the ways that the established systems of debt controls backed by death control work will drive there to be the maximum possible debt insanities, provoking the maximum possible death insanities. The only genuinely better alternatives would have to become better death control systems, that used more information, which enabled higher consciousness. However, most of the mainstream morons and reactionary revolutionaries, as well as all of the professional hypocrites that are operating the established social pyramid systems tend to continue to rely upon Hanlon's Razor, and so, are able to engage in superficial analysis of apparent "Unintended Consequences," and continuing policy MISTAKES, which then enable them to indulge in proposing similarly superficial, bogus "solutions" to the various political problems.
Actually, the death control systems developed deliberately. Their "Unintended Consequences," were not unforeseen accidents, due to oversight and stupidity. Furthermore, the only ways to realistically resolve real political problems any better would necessarily require better death control systems, which in turn would take profound paradigm shifts in the ways that we perceive and think about those death control systems. Moreover, that becomes totally pervasive, since the most important thing that the death control systems do is back up the debt controls systems.
AGAIN, I REPEAT THE ESSENTIAL POINTS:
THE BIG PROBLEMS THAT THE HUMAN SPECIES FACES ARE DUE TO THE HISTORY OF SUCCESSFUL WARFARE BASED ON BACKING UP DECEITS WITH DESTRUCTION, MORPHING TO BECOME SUCCESSFUL FINANCE BASED ON ENFORCING FRAUDS. The vast majority of people want to continue to believe in the biggest bullies' bullshit regarding those problems, including believe in the banksters' bullshit about the political economy, which is based upon integrated systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, which ranged all the way through from marijuana laws to the monetary system, and which continues to dominate the military systems, such that the public murder systems are actually directed by HUGE LIES, because that was what used to WORK BEST, for thousand of years. HOWEVER, that kind of social pyramid system has recently become electronic frauds, backed by the threat of force from atomic bombs, and therefore, human civilization has now become trillions of times more criminally insane than it ever was before! Hence, the "Unintended Consequences" from MISTAKES caused by globalized systems of electronic frauds, backed by atomic bombs, are practically impossible to fully comprehend or imagine!
THAT is the context in which one should ask the QUESTIONS about whether there were actually "intended consequences," rather than merely "Unintended Consequences." REAL human ecologies developed in ways whereby different cultural (& somewhat genetic) groups of human beings filled the niches of predatory/parasites versus productive/prey. By and large, those who are the predatory/parasites have taught the productive/prey the bullshit social stories that they believe in, while the predatory/parasites also publicly pretend to believe in the same bullshit. Generally speaking, there is now nothing significant but the core groups of organized crime (bankster controlled governments), surrounded by various layers of controlled opposition groups, BOTH of which tend to stay within the same fundamentally fraudulent ways of thinking and discussing any political problems. Therefore, that is the overall context in which any apparent "Unintended Consequences" are manifesting.
Hanlon's Razor is relied upon by those who want to avoid coming to the conclusions regarding how malicious the ruling classes actually are, which then also enables those who engage in that kind of superficial analysis to not have to admit and address the issues regarding how and why there necessarily are some death controls, which back up some debt controls. Theoretically speaking, it would be possible to develop a more genuinely scientific society, but not unless the social facts regarding the death controls were directly studied and publicly discussed in more genuinely scientific ways. HOWEVER, that runs into head-on collisions with the history of militarism, as the ideology of the murder systems, whose social successfulness was based on being able to be deceitful and treacherous, which then enabled the financial successfulness based upon being able to enforce frauds, which has resulted in all significant sociopolitical systems being dominated by the best available professional hypocrites, such as those whose participation in the "War on Drugs" or the "War on Terror" etc. made various related political problems get worse, faster ...
Since it appears to be politically impossible for the established systems to stop being dominated by the best available professional hypocrites, due to the entrenched vicious spirals of POLITICAL FUNDING ENFORCING FRAUDS, we are rushing faster and faster towards manifesting the supreme "Unintended Consequences" that will flow from the ruling classes having built globalized systems of electronic monkey money frauds, backed by the threat of force from apes with atomic bombs, while those they rule over have been conditioned to feel like they do not want to understand that in any deeper ways.
What one will generally NEVER observe being publicly presented in any significant ways are any good answers regarding how and why that kind of social situation could happen in the first place, and then be perpetuated for decade after decade, Century after Century ... All of the alleged policies based upon "public health and safety" tend to be promoted by the same sorts of professional hypocrites who previously promoted other integrated systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence. THE MOST CRUCIAL CONCERNS CONTINUE TO BE THAT "PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY" POLICIES ARE ALWAYS BEING PROMOTED BY THOSE WHO DELIBERATELY IGNORE THE REAL CONTEXT OF HUMAN ECOLOGIES.
Hence, there are no reasonable doubts that they will continue to only engage in superficial analysis of the history of political problems, and therefore, continue to promote superficial "solutions" which are bogus, and backfire badly. Furthermore, when those become the actual social facts, they will continue to apply Hanlon's Razor, and presume that somehow their bad policies merely had "Unintended Consequences," and repeatedly BLUNDERED BY MISTAKES, rather than actually were malicious manifestations based upon and enabled by their deliberate ignorance and willful blindness.
The only things which actually exist are the dynamic equilibria between different systems of organized lies operating robberies. Therefore, the only realistic resolutions to the real problems are changes in those dynamic equilibria and/or those systems of organized lies operating robberies. What makes it seem politically impossible to negotiate any such better systems are that all of the established systems are operated by the best available professional hypocrites, whose language is full of false fundamental dichotomies, such as asserting that only others are the "organized criminals," and/or "terrorists."
Better solutions to the Terrorism problems are the same as the any possible solutions to all of the other political problems, namely series of intellectual scientific revolutions, in order to go through profound paradigm shifts in the ways that we perceive those problems. Primarily, that means starting to use more unitary mechanisms, rather than continuing to rely upon the dualities of false fundamental dichotomies and the related impossible ideals.
The international bankers effectively control all NATO countries, and they operate as the supreme financial terrorists. Their agenda has been what has started and exacerbated their "War on Terror." Behind that were the ways that all private property was based on backing up claims with coercions, whose most abstract form became that money is measurement backed by murder. Most of the "War on Terror" was originally developed by the international banksters controlling countries that captured control over the natural resources in previously Islamic countries. The main means to do that were using false flag terrorist attacks to get things going. The blowback from those events was deliberately designed and intended.
The overall systems which now exist, namely globalized electronic frauds, backed by atomic bombs, have become such excessively successful control of civilization through the methods of organized crime that civilization as a whole as thereby become runaway criminal insanities. Theoretically speaking, the only genuine solutions to the chronic political problems inherent in the nature of human life being amplified to astronomical sizes by prodigious progress in physical science would be profound paradigm shifts in the ways that we perceived those political problems, which paradigm shifts integrated and surpassed those which were already achieved in physical science.
Given that there exist globalized systems of electronic frauds, backed by atomic bombs, within which the banksters are the biggest terrorists, controlling the largest forms of terrorism, the NATO countries, any solutions to those Terrorism problems would have to be in the right ball park, namely, go through series of intellectual scientific revolutions and profound paradigm shifts in the ways that those problems were perceived.
The most spectacular symbol, so far, of "Terrorism" were the events on 9/11/2001. One is necessarily barking up the wrong tree unless one recognizes that 9/11 was an inside job, false flag attack, deliberately designed to get the "War on Terror" going as a self-fulfilling prophesy, whose increasing blowback effects were some of the intended consequences. Basically what is happening is that the Western World's State Religions, which are its monetary systems and national security systems, are in conflict with the Islamic State Religions. BOTH are forms of organized crime and terrorism. The so-called Clash of Civilizations is conflict between the biggest and best organized crime gangs, against the second biggest and best organized crime gangs, BOTH of which are using terrorism to advance their own agendas.
The necessary theoretical basis for any better solutions for the problems of Terrorism in that context would be to understand it better. However, at the present time, every different kind of organized crime gang, from NATO to MENA, are currently dominated by their own best available professional hypocrites. THEIR WAYS OF THINKING ARE THE PROBLEMS.
State Sponsored War is ALWAYS Terrorism.
As soon as one perceives and defines human beings as separated from their environment and each other, then they necessarily live as gangs of robbers. There are chronic political problems inherent in the nature of human life. There are intense paradoxes which have developed due to natural selection becoming internalized as human intelligence, which was then applied to the most important selection pressures, which were other groups of people. Hence, the history of civilization was the history of warfare, which was organized crime on larger and larger scales. The basics are that governments are NECESSARILY the biggest forms of organized crime, controlled by the best organized criminals. They were able to promote their bullshit social stories, based on the dualities of false fundamental dichotomies, and the related impossible ideals. However, there are no fundamental dichotomies between people. Rather, the biggest and best organized "terrorists" are bankster controlled governments. They have been behind series of inside job, false flag terrorist attacks, in order to get their "War on Terror" going as their self-fulfilling prophesy.
The fundamental drivers for Terrorism are the chronic political problems inherent in the nature of human life, which result in human beings necessarily living as gangs of robbers. That is compounded by the biggest and best organized gangs of robbers being able to promote their bullshit use of language to project the blame for Terrorism onto lower levels of organized crime gangs. Given all of the above, I tend to be be forced to agree with the most extreme degrees of PESSIMISM regarding there being no reasonable hopes for the foreseeable future of the finite kinds of sociopolitical systems that currently exist. In my view, the pessimists regarding the future of political systems based upon the vicious spirals of POLITICAL FUNDING ENFORCING FRAUDS have almost all the rational evidence and logical arguments on their side, while the optimists only are able to feel better by maintaining irrational hopes.
Overall, the problems are nothing less than the development of globalized electronic monkey money frauds, backed by the threat of force from apes with atomic bombs. Monkeys and apes, with electronics and atomic energy that are trillions of times more capable and powerful than anything the previously existed in human history, are being channeled through social pyramid systems based on being able to back up lies with violence, wherein the pyramidion people developed to be the biggest and best organized terrorists, in order for those ruling classes to rule over other larger groups, by keeping them ignorant and afraid.
The current manifestations of the "War on Terror" are merely the latest episodes in the long history of the development of an overall war on consciousness waged by the ruling classes against those they ruled over. We are faced with intensifying paradoxes that natural selection pressures drove the development of artificial selection systems which became most socially successful by being as deceitful and fraudulent as humanly possible. The "War on Terror" is an extremely hyper-complicated entanglement of virtually infinite tunnels of deceits and frauds. The most hyper-complicated of those entanglements are the ways that artificial selection systems operated INSIDE natural selection systems. I presume that the solutions to the Terrorism Problem will necessarily require those to work their way through … However, I would continue to insist that one should NOT regard there being any fundamental dichotomies between natural selection and artificial selection systems.
About the ONLY passage in the article above that I totally agreed with was this:
HOWEVER, in my view, the ALL TOO TYPICAL PROBLEM with an article like the one above is that its superficial kinds of analysis can NOT lead to any better "ways of thinking more constructively and creatively about how to respond to such a challenge."
Actually I thought the article was quite good and met Hanlon's Razor. On the other hand I found it difficult to understand what you wrote. How much of that shit are you smoking anyway dude?
so long as there is perpetual evil in the world, i'm all for perpetual war
ps: for those of you who think the wars are the end all in gov't spending, time for a reality, err relativety, check...barack and congress have added near nine trillion to the debt, bernanke/yellen have added more'n 4 trillion in funny money/inflation stimuli, diluting/devaluing the cash in our pockets. all that new debt piled on you n yours during the last seven years is enough to fully fund more than a dozen wars the size and scope of the iraq campaign.
It is the nature of our minds to ascribe patterns to events where there are none. The old hag / young woman illusion is a classic example of this mental process. As a result of this tendency, we tend to imagine magicians behind the curtains pulling the levers of power that bring all sorts of malevolent consequences into play. I suspect that many of the power broker’s decisions are circumstantial in nature with no real thought for long range consequences. Personifications of evil such as Hitler or Stalin did not achieve those personifications without a whole host of converging factors placing them at the pinnacle of power at the right moment in time. Most of those converging factors were beyond the control of either Hitler or Stalin. We give too much credit to central planners.
I have no doubt that there are policy wonks that intentionally use regime destabilization as a means to achieve their geopolitical goals. I also doubt the Rothschild Bankers understood that when they put Lenin in play that action would set off a series of events in Europe that would give rise to Hitler in Germany resulting in the extermination of millions of their kinsmen.
The dependence on oil imports has driven a situational ethics by American policy makers that borders on the insane. Having Saudi Arabia stand as the defender of human rights is the epitome of that lunacy. The partnership between the United States, Saudi Arabia and Israel is the consequence of our oil dependency. Saudi Arabia is in its end game. The necessity for water injection and its venture in fracking is evidence of this. As Saudi reserves deplete the partnership will dissolve.
American policy makers have a long history of supporting factions such as the Viet Cong or Al-Qaida to achieve momentary policy objectives with little or no concern for the long range consequences of the forces they put in play. Like most of us, policy wonks tend to be captured in the moment. I have no doubt that the chaos we let loose in Syria gave rise to Isis.
There are a whole series of factors that are contributing to the destabilization of the Middle East. These states are being impacted by drought, declining oil revenues and population explosions. This is a volatile mix.
As the Middle Eastern secular world collapses, it should be no surprise that significant elements within their population will turn to religious fundamentalism for salvation. This is not unlike the Ghost Dancers on the Great Plains or the flagellants that appeared during the Black Death. A common theme of collapse is the core argument that the collapse came about because the general population turned away from God. This logic tends to radicalize populations.
We are not going to be able to bomb religious fundamentalism out of existence. Such efforts will in fact fan the flames of radicalism.
We must come to realize that the United States faces the same forces as those currently at play in the Middle East. We too are confronted by drought, declining oil revenues and a population explosion. Political and economic refugees are flooding into the country from the Caribbean and Latin America. This is a humanitarian crisis on a grand scale. As a result our own social services are facing collapse. This is not scare mongering. It is reality. The tax base cannot sustain the expenditures necessary to keep the system afloat. Conjured money is only a short term solution. Conjured money inevitably leads to currency collapse. So, we either implode the currency or default on the debt to the ever expanding social services programs.
The forces of collapse will put in play the same forces of religious fundamentalism that are currently loose in the Middle East. As the secular world implodes radicalism will rise on our streets. During the best of times, Islam and Christianity can coexist. During collapse, genocide and ethnic cleansing tend to be the norm.
To ignore the fact that the fundamental tenants of Islam are in direct conflict with the basic tenants of the American Republic is naive. We are mixing oil and water. Trump is right. We have no duty to noncitizens. We have no obligation to bring refugees to our shores.
Muslim citizens of the United States are protected under the first Amendment. They have every right to worship and believe what they wish. They do not have the right to break the law. All law abiding Muslims must be shielded from secular or Christian reactionaries. By the same token, the wall of separation between church and state cannot be used to shield illegal actions.
Should an Iman call for the death of anyone whether it be a policeman or a common citizen, the same procedure used by the Southern Poverty Law Center to bring the Klan to its knees must be used against the Mosque. Should a follower or sympathizer heed that call, the Iman who made that call and the mosque that provided the public forum for that call should be sued together and individually. They should be bankrupted, and the keys to their property turned over to the heirs of their victims.
We either maintain our Constitutional protections or we devolve into chaos.
I agreed with most of your points, Cloud9.5.
Tragically, I believe that "Constitutional protections" have already been destroyed by the vicious feedback loops of POLITICAL FUNDING ENFORCING FRAUDS, and therefore, it is too late to try to "maintain our Constitutional protections."
The reasonable PESSIMISM:
"We devolve into chaos."
I do NOT believe that the ruling classes are omniscient nor omnipotent. They do NOT have to be so, in order to implement their plans. Rather all they require is to make sure that they are more competent than their actual opposition. The main ways that they have been able to do that were to effectively control their apparent opposition.
"Conspiracies" replay a lot of the arguments which are similar to those regarding the role of "intelligent design" in evolution. I tend to cleave to the view that there needs to be some actually existing cybernetic mechanisms in order to the various possible "conspiracies" and/or "intelligent designs" to be developed and manifested. I do NOT oversubscribe to the competence of the ruling classes. However, I DO subscribe to the view that those they rule over are relatively incompetent. That is especially the case due to the degree that the ruling classes have been able to control the apparent opposition groups. For all practical purposes, there is NO effective opposition able to resist the implementation of the plans of the ruling classes.
Therefore, I must agree with your prognosis regarding various compounding problems, as well as that I sympathize with holding on to various irrational hopes that "Constitutional protections" might be brought back into force to some degree. However, the best organized gangs of criminals and terrorists currently control civilization, including all of the publicly significant apparent opposition to them. Thus, they do NOT have to be superhuman masterminds in order to continue to implement their agenda. Rather, the ruling classes only require that those they rule over continue to be relatively too incompetent to stop that from happening.
In the longer term, I think that the ruling classes have become increasingly psychotic psychopaths, and thus, their excessive successfulness will result in their paradoxical final failures. However, again, I do not think that will be prevented from happening, eventually in worse ways than are possible to effectively prepare for.
HUMAN BEINGS, MOSTLY STILL ACTING LIKE MONKEYS OR APES, HAVE ELECTRONICS AND ATOMIC ENERGY ???
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE RULING CLASSES CAN FULLY UNDERSTAND AND CONTROL THAT, WHILE I EVEN LESS BELIEVE THOSE THEY RULE OVER FULLY UNDERSTAND OR CONTROL THAT.
THOSE THINGS HAVE GONE BEYOND HUMAN CONTROL, ALTHOUGH HUMAN BEINGS WERE ORIGINALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR DEVELOPING THAT SITUATION TO EXIST ...
In "Essence" and to 'Simplify' what you have explained as 'Human Nature' and its 'Unrighteous Action', I propose a 'solution'.
'Self-Knowledge' will reveal the 'Truth' of 'Action' and 'Actor'. They are 'One' (psychologically).
This 'One' is the source of all 'Action' and all 'Energy'; They are 'One' (consciousness).
'Intelligence' is 'One Movement'; integrated, undivided, 'Whole'.
The 'nature' of 'Intelligence' is 'Love'. 'Love' acts 'Righteously'.
Not until each and every 'One' acts 'Righteously' will the wars and violence end.
The 'realization' of the 'One' is the action of 'Self-Knowledge'. Without this 'realization' all 'action' is fragmented, divided, separate.
The nature of 'Fragmentation' is a psychological phenomenon confusing the 'Actor' and 'Action' as separate. This is 'Ignorance'. They are 'One'.
So what is one to do?
'Know Oneself'. That is all one can do. To 'Know Oneself' is the essence of living. The 'ending' of the artificial division of the 'Actor' and 'Action' is 'Death'.
So, 'Living' is 'Dying' and 'Dying' is 'Living'. It is not a 'riddle'. The 'One' is 'Eternal'.
It was too late for America to get religion by the time March 10th 2008 manifested, and not even God can stop the American economy from the Hegelian Spiral into Hell & Purgaory that it will most assuredly find itself in shortly.
Kinda hard for evil to actually fight evil.
Put on a good pantomime, maybe.
It don’t matter what zuit-suit it comes in, evil is just plain old filthy evil.
The war is on.
The war on evil!
Hey Carly, Hey Donald,
Free advice, worth the Presidency! Show the citizens THIS!
http://showrealhist.com/yTRIAL.html
This is what your gawd teaches you who belong to Abrahamic religions
Your gawd wants blood, killing , death
Thats what gawd asked abraham to murder his child
then he instructed all humankind to kill animals & offer their flesh & blood to gawd
your gawd is a gawd of violence
It cant be gawd , it can only be an Asura lord of demonic world
whose teaching is to lead mankind into destruction
by annihilation of each other
fight fight fight you christians , muslims & jewws , please your gawd ,
your gawd is waiting at the other side
Yeah, like wars are fought over good and evil. Uh-hunh.
Some years ago, the psychologist Albert Bandura listed eight mental tricks people play to disengage their consciences so they can perform the acts of violence they would normally abhor.
"1. Moral Justification: one is persuaded, for example, that killing the enemy serves a higher moral purpose such as protecting one’s country or serving God’s plan, etc.
2. Euphemistic Labeling: people mask the true nature of behavior they know is unethical, such as labeling “enhanced interrogation” for torture, “servicing the target” for shooting the enemy, and “disinformation” for lying.
3. Advantageous Comparison: as in “What I am doing is not as bad as what they are doing.”
4. Displacement of Responsibility: Uncritically following orders, as in the Nazi concentration camp workers or SS execution squads.
5. Diffusion of Responsibility: when a whole group decides on the unethical action or when the action is divided into many subparts, for example, the building of nuclear weapons. (“All I do is assemble this little electronic part.” Or, “I’m just driving a truck [to] bring supplies—I don’t shoot anybody.”)
6. Disregard or Distortion of Consequences: for example, when harm is inflicted at a distance (as in officers in Montana who guide drones that make “bug splats” in Afghanistan) or dropping bombs from a plane on “targets” even though women and children and old men are being killed below.
7. Dehumanization: labeling the victims of one’s violence as non-human or subhuman, as in calling Vietnamese people “slants” and “gooks” during that war, or Germans “Huns” in WWI, or Arabs “towel heads” and “sand niggers” in the First Gulf War.
8. Attribution of Blame: or blaming the victim who is seen as deserving the mistreatment or seen as having brought it on themselves. For example, “These German civilians we are killing below should not have voted for Hitler; therefore they are to blame for our bombings."
(excerpt taken from Good People Doing Bad Things By Kent Shifferd)
Generally speaking, in the run-up to a war and during it, most or all of these powerful psychological techniques are employed by governments and their militaries on both sides.
[Article reproduced in its entirety.]
The biggest mistake would be to think that these are simply mistakes.
they arent stupid
its all being done on purpose
"There are no accidents in politics." Joseph P Kennedy --Remark to a reporter, 1960
Things don't always go according to plan but there is always a plan. So this idea that the US is stupid isn't correct it's not stupid and has never been stupid in fact it's gotten more from electronic printed digits than a sane person could ever dream of.
The empire of the dollar is what all this is and we are like any other empire soon enough it consumes a people to maintain one and it will collapse.
I think really the US is Rome with more PR and on an insanely accelerated timescale due to modern technology and the sheer size of it's empire.
However even within that there are echolons of power and at the very top it's not many and they do decide how things will go as far as at least having a plan.
The real danger is when it does collapse then all bets are off as to what comes next.
power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Name one, absolutely powerful, absolutely corrupt nation that did not have to be destroyed. The United States will be the next in the long line of history.
The money people and the political leaders of the United States will not change the path they are on until they destroy themselves.
History shows us, quite clearly, the rest of the world will eventually have to come together and destroy the blood thirsty, greedy, mindless country that goes by the name of the United States. Hopefully, I will be long gone from this earth when that happens.
This country who names a never ending stream of other nations the "axis of evil" believes they have become God. As surely as the sun will rise tomorrow, this country who believes they are the rightful rulers of all the world, will be the next "all powerful" nation the world will destroy.
Name one that hasn't suffered this fate at the point they believed themselves invincible.
Tyler Durden -Why do we as a nation keep on playing into the same dismal scenario and committing the same mistakes?
Psychology Today reports that the anti-psychotic drug Ablify is the prescription best-seller in the Land of the Free, retailing about $30 a pill, annual sales over $7 billion, nearly a billion more than the next runner-up.
Doesn't that answer the question? Hasn't the USA lost its collective mind?
I think you will find the Rockerfeller name is attached to most Drug Companies, Hospitals and Medical Universities.
Of course where you find them you also find the Rothschild name.
...and yes, the USA has lost its collective mind along with the UK, Canada, Australia et al.
America the beautiful, land of freedom and the dream land is no longer available,its doomed to be America the ugly thanks to sleeping people and this elite-shadows who have taken the country into their pocket and playing their dirty power game with it.I might be blunt and arrogant for me to say this but i am curious are there any american nationalist left in the white house?
BTW, i was watching X-Men: First Class last night and OMG! it is all there Russia vs America on the brinks of nuclear war Turkey & Cuba all the current situation we are seeing this day are repeating in real life.Any one who decoded the message welcome to bring here on ZH.
America the beautiful, land of freedom and the dream land is no longer available,its doomed to be America the ugly thanks to sleeping people and this elite-shadows who have taken the country into their pocket and playing their dirty power game with it.I might be blunt and arrogant for me to say this but i am curious are there any american nationalist left in the white house?
BTW, i was watching X-Men: First Class last night and OMG! it is all there Russia vs America on the brinks of nuclear war Turkey & Cuba all the current situation we are seeing this day are repeating in real life.Any one who decoded the message welcome to bring here on ZH.
The writer seems not to realise what is actually going on here. This is no mistake. It is all carefullt pre-meditated and planned. Just ask yourselves "cui bono" and you have your answer - deep state lobbies and the military industrial complex with perhaps some bankers thrown into the mix.
No, No, No.....
You guys don't understand, Afganistan is the utimate SUCCESS in terms of American wars, its even better than Vietnam!
14 year war? PERFECT! Afganistan is the gift that keeps on giving.
You guys have to stop thinking like sane moral people and start thinking like the psychopaths that run the American shadow government.
Recall daddy bush was allowed to lose the 92 election. Daddy bush is IN THE CLUB, so why did they boot him out? Because he stupidly won Gulf War I in a single week. WTF!!!! How the FXXK is the USA supposed to go into debt and order thousands of cruise missles and bombs and bullets, and shells etc in a week long war?BAD BOY DADDY BUSH!!!
Enter Slick Willy. Assault weapons ban and no wars....ok, message time, you lose congress. But slick willy learned, started bombing Somalia, Kosovo, etc. Willy is good at self preservation.
Baby Bush, PERFECT!!! 2 wars out of hime that extended beyond his terms and cost 3 trillion...PERFECT!!!
Just think of all the bombs, planes, bullets....and the best one...debt that requires. Remember,the family foundations that control the USA are major share holders in:
Goldman Sachs,
JP Morgan Chase,
Citibank,
BofA,
General Dynamics,
Boeing,
Lockeed,
etc......
But the ultimate success has been the Shithead in the whitehouse today. He has:
Raised the national debt by 100% in 7 years, SUCCESS!!!!,
Faux closed off one war in Iraq but extended it to Lybia, Syria, Yemen, and extended Afgantistan. PERFECT!
Further eroded the Constitution....the shadow government has no need of that silly document.
If you lot continue to think morally and sane you will never understand these people. Think like a psychopath and it all makes sense. Stop acting goyim.
Squid
PERFECT!!! -:)
Pertpetual war puts money in peoples pockets... in this day and age that's what it's all about. Follow the money trail.
It's global, no more countries... it's big money vs everyone else.
Still, it drives me crazy to watch policymakers and experts making the same dumb mistakes time after time, several mistakes, actually, which synergistically add up to one self-defeating blunder after another.
Wait a minute, what dumb mistake? Everything you ever needed to know was spelled out in the PNAC policy paper Rebuilding America's Defenses. What's not to get? From the Neocon perspective the only thing that went wrong is that the kerfuffle in Iraq got so out of hand they couldn't implement their Iran putsch in a succinct manner. Ah, but not to fear, the Arab spring came around and the CIA and Mossad saw an opportunity to implement the Syria regime change plans. Alls well that ends well, eh.
So what's not to get?
-- a new Pearl Harbor. Check.
-- regime change in Iraq. Check.
-- regime change in Syria. As we speak....
-- regime change in Iran. Still working on that one. Stay tuned.
All the chaos? You might not like it, but who gives a flying fuck what you don't like. Halliburton's been making BANK since this shit kicked off. Raytheon, Westinghouse, Boeing, you hear them complaining?
You people need to get with the program. Up is down, down is up. Black is white and white is black. Slavery is freedom. War is peace. Fuck. I thought we'd been over this umpteen times already. WTF.....
Policymakers making dumb mistakes? You need to get with the program son.
'Perhaps the point is not to win the war but to remain trapped in this vicious circle...'
Maybe time is a flat circle.
Maybe we haven't yet figured out how to transcend that circle.
Maybe there isn't a way and this is the lot of the human race here on earth.
I don't believe that and will continue to protest for peace and a better world.
Keep up the good work TD
Couldn't be because we have a secular marxist regime running the country could it?
Nahhh.
The war against Islam could have ended decades ago were we led by people serious about fighting it. A couple of well placed nukes would have put the House of Saud out of business and that would have been that.
As it is, the only wars our masters take all that seriously are those against people whose intelligence, creativity and independent spirit make them a genuine threat to their rule.
The class war is real, kids. And the bad guys are winning. They plan to declare victory when the last white American is strangled with the guts of the last Jew.
Only got as far as the "making the same dumb mistakes time after time" before going to the comments section intending to write a respectful disagreement but, after reading much of said comments, only thing I can add is: "NUF SAID"! Surprised to see this coming out of the TomDispatch.
Who the fuck appointed the USA to tell the rest of the world what to do? The only evil threat to the entire world is the USA. Our foreign policies have created every terrorist who has ever taken a stand against us. We bomb, destroy, and ruin persons, property, even entire nations. We topple governments and assassaniate foreign leaders. We punish physically and economically every country that does not play by our evil, selfish, bully playbook. Then we get so offended and righteous and outraged when people, HUMAN BEINGS, get weary of our bullshit and strike back.
Shaking my damn head at the ZHers and everyone else acting like we are somehow "victims." Grow a brain, and grow up.
"Who the fuck appointed the USA to tell the rest of the world what to do?"
At first read, my question will sound 'smart ass'ish but its not meant to be:
"It depends on what your definition of the USA is?".
I am deadly serious on that point. It is widely speculated that one of the larger 'unmentioned by law' shareholders of the Federal Reserve is the Rothschild family.
They are not Americans.
Do you think the house of Windsor does not hold shares in Chase, Citibank, Boeing?
This is a global 'us against them' phenomena, the utra-wealthy against you and I.
And don't denigrate people that point our secularism as a problem. I'm not a big god/Jesus freak either but, when the majority of people actually believed in that stuff, the shadow government had to be careful how far they pushed stuff. The secretary of war during WWII, Henry Stimson, when asked by the general staff to keep dropping nukes on Japan until capitulation stated that the American People would never stand for genocide. And he was right. Most people were church going and moral in their own way back then, the state knew it and feared/respected it. Now, after 40 years of federal involvement in education, that is no longer a problem so the imorality of the shadow state is blatant for all to see.
Its a fucking mess and these clowns were all freely voted in.
Squid
Hey John Lennon;
"Imagine" all you want ..but in the end the other side is dealing with low IQ, cash needy constituents. Expansion is their olny goal and they have a 100-1000 year plan. Your call if you want to just sit back in the park and make friends. Leave your goods in a place where somebody useful can pick them up
Contrariologist:
Did we step in when the Romans were expanding thier empire?..no
Did we step in when the Mongols were expanding their empire?..no
Did we step in when the Persians were expanding their empire? no
We weren't even a counry then....
FAIL....back to Pixar and Starbucks for you