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Bilal Erdogan Denies Allegations He Is Funding ISIS: Here's The Problem
It was just three weeks ago that we posed “the most important question about ISIS that no one is asking.” Namely, we wanted to know who the middlemen are that assist Islamic State in smuggling some 45,000 barrels of stolen crude each and every day.
To be sure, that’s not a lot in the grand scheme of things, but it’s not exactly trivial either especially considering this is a non-state actor (well, Baghdadi would say his “caliphate” is most certainly a “state” actor, but you get the idea). We suggested that the answer may well lie with the the Glencores, the Vitols, the Trafiguras, the Nobels, the Mercurias of the world and indeed, when we look at one of the likely trafficking routes from Iraq and through Turkey, it seems possible that if ISIS is taking advantage of the same system that the KRG uses to get its crude to Ceyhan, these trading houses or at least their former employees may well be involved. After all, sources have said Trafigura and Vitol deal in Kurdish oil and when Kurdistan went looking for an advisor to assist in the effort to circumvent Baghdad, the KRG chose Murtaza Lakhani to help them find ships. Lakhani used to work for Glencore in Iraq in the 2000s.
Well when it comes to ships, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s son Bilal has a fleet via his BMZ Group. Here they are:





Amusingly, they’re all Malta-flagged which seems rather convenient given what we know about the offshore, ship-to-ship transfer ruse conducted off the Malta coast by vessels seeking to prevent Baghdad from tracking illegal Kurdish oil shipments.
In short, we already know Erdogan is moving illicit crude from the KRG (with whom Ankara is friendly by the way, despite the fact that they are Kurds) via a son-in-law and in large quantities. What's to say he isn't moving ISIS crude via the same networks through his son Bilal? Or perhaps through his other son Burak who Today's Zaman reminds us "also owns a fleet of ships [and] was featured in a report by the Sözcü daily in 2014 [when his] vessel Safran 1 was anchored in Israel's port of Ashdod” (which Al-Araby al-Jadeed says is often the destination for ISIS crude shipped from Ceyhan).

(Bilal as Robin Hood)
Just days after we completed a four-part series (here, here, here, and here) outlining everything mentioned above in exhaustive detail, the Russian MoD delivered a devastatingly convincing presentation showing photos of oil trucks, videos of airstrikes and maps detailing the trafficking of stolen oil. Moscow has been pounding the table ever since and The Kremlin has explicitly stated that Erdogan and his family are behind the trade.
“No one in the West, I wonder, does not cause the issue that the son of the President of Turkey is the leader of one of the largest energy companies, and son-in-law was appointed Minister of Energy? What a brilliant family business!,” Deputy Minister of Defence Anatoly Antonov said, in opening remarks before the press event. Then, late last week, CHP lawmaker Eren Erdem said he, like Moscow, will soon provide proof of Erdogan’s role in the smuggling of Islamic State oil. "I have been able to establish that there is a very high probability that Berat Albayrak is linked to the supply of oil by the Daesh terrorists,” Erdem said at a press conference on Thursday, referring to Erdogan’s son-in-law.

(Berat Albayrak)
Erdogan is of course furious with the allegations, calling them “immoral” and “unacceptable,” and now, Bilal has joined his father in denying the family’s role in the smuggling of ISIS crude.
"We build offices in Istanbul ... We do not do business in the Mediterranean, in Syria or Iraq," Bilal told Corriere della Sera. "ISIS is an enemy of my country. ISIS is a disgrace. It puts my religion in a bad light. They don't represent Islam and I do not consider them to be Muslims.”
We assume Baghdadi will understand that those comments were made under duress.
Bilal also said he had no operational shipping activities, and that his company has a contract to build "river tankers", but that it did not operate the ships itself. As Reuters notes, and as we’ve shown, “Bilal has shipping and maritime assets and controls several oil tankers through his company and partnerships in other firms.” The idea that he owns all of the tankers shown above and yet somehow has "no operational shipping activities" seems absurd.
Furthermore, Bilal doesn’t think his brother is a terrorist and resents the implication.
"He has a cargo ship, but it cannot be used as a tanker,” he said.
Ok, but someone is buying the oil, and if it’s not Bilal and the Turks, then who is it? Bilal has an answer: “If you follow ISIS oil, you will find Assad,” he contends.
Note that’s the exact same line the US is trying to use, and as we said two weeks ago, it’s not clear why Assad would buy oil from a group that uses the cash at its disposal to wage war against Damascus, especially when one considers that Assad's closest allies (Russia and Iran) are major oil producers. We went on to qualify that by noting that between all the shady middlemen and double dealing, there's really no telling.
Of course the main problem with Bilal’s statement is that when “you follow ISIS oil,” you do not find Assad, you find Turkey. And on that note we’ll simply close with the following video from the Russian MoD:
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There's aways a catch.....always.
Simple test - blow the shit up and see who starts complaining.
Wisdom of Solomon......worth a shot.
He's telling the truth.
He isn't funding ISIS
His staff and his oil buyers are funding ISIS. He merely collects the Obscene Profits from his staff's work.
Ah, the God of Mammon
There is an interesting development in Syria.
The flight data recorder from the recently shot down Russian plane SU-24 has been found.
It might be able to finally answer the question whether or not the plane entered Turkey’s airspace.
Looney
Video
Erdogan doth protest a bit too loudly!
And what about Ahmet Burak Erdogan, the eldest son? Ahmet also owns a shipping company, MB Shipping, out of Northern Cyprus. This company has been a accused of violating an economic embargo with Israel. The Umit G, a general cargo ship, sails under a Turkish flag and can be retrofitted to transport oil.
https://www.vesselfinder.com/ship-photos/41582?s=1
"Ahmet Burak Erdogan, the son of the Turkish prime minister, has bought a sixth vessel for the shipping company that he co-founded with a partner, daily Sözcü reported on Nov. 9.
The new Malta-flagged cargo ship "Pretty" can carry over 91,000 tons and has almost the same capacity as the company's five other vessels together, the report claimed.
The firm of Erdogan's eldest son, MB Denizcilik (Shipping), owns five other ships, Safran 1 (name changed to Umit G), Sakarya, G. One bolu, Cihan and Bossa, which have a total capacity of around 92,000 tons, according to the report."
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/Default.aspx?pageID=517&nid=57656
"Pretty" is a multi-purpose bulk carrier that can transport oil without a retrofit.
https://www.vesselfinder.com/ship-photos/134417?s=1
Umit G sails frequently to Israel and Ukraine.
The bulk carrier Sakarya also can transport oil.
Name: Sakarya
IMO: 9257199
Flag: Turkey
MMSI: 271043415
Callsign: TCVU3
Former name(s):
- Eternal Confidence (Until 2012 Dec)
Vessel type: Bulk Carrier
Gross tonnage: 17,953 tons
Summer DWT: 29,905 tons
Length: 170 m
Beam: 23 m
Draught: 5 m
Home port: Istanbul
http://www.denizhaber.com.tr/ahmet-burak-erdogan-mv-sakarya-gemisini-14-...
Say no more....
There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm
All the examples I read from your link seem to be common sense exhortations. I'm not going to admit the truth to a lethal adversary either. Who does???
Don't hate because your religious teachings perhaps are not as exhaustive and thorough. No doubt summed up in just 10 painfully obvious, simplistic, commandments...
I didn't find anything that said lying about illegal activity such as smuggling ISIS oil and illicit commerce - or for the sake of gaining in business competitiveness or anything to do with commerce at all.
But nevertheless, best of luck trying to undermine 1500 years and 1.8 billion folks. You're gonna need it.
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World War 3 already started...
It's the greatest threat global security has ever faced.
All the weapons in the world won't matter once ISIS army kick into gear!
http://motivationdose.com/electromagnetic-pulse-attack-emp-blackout-usa-...
Money is more important than being the scapegoats for the triggering of WWIII
They figured: "Somebody has to be, so why not make a few $$$ because it is going to happen anyway"
The thoughts that kill and destroy
For those who care, photo and info on the Sakarya.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:339789/mmsi:271...
FORWARD SOVIET!
(Berat Albayrak)
He looks like more of a 'Borat' to me..
Putin is doing God's work. bless you man.
Was it the pilots passport with some GPS coordinates scribbled in it?
It's practically Clintonian; it depends on what the meaning of IS IS.
Brilliant!
Yeah, and it also depends on the definition of "we." Kinda like Obama saying "We will prevail." It's the club he belongs to, but it doesn't include you or me. To us, he's saying "They will prevail." All are agents of The Great Red Dragon, the group you and I would never sell our soul to.
" I did not have sexual relations with that woman. "
Am I the only one who believed Clinton?
"What the meaning of IS IS"
IS = US
Israeli
Secret
Intelligence
Service
?????
Or as Celente like to call them ASSHOLES
We were instructed henceforth to go back to the second evolution of the name, ISIL. This is so as not to besmirch the good name of Mossad.
The term ISIL denies the existence of Israel. That's why the occupant of the White House insists on using that term.
Look, we've all had to ride a moped and been ashamed to admit it. Bill is no different.
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You assess correctly. ISIS funding him.
Chris Christie said the same thing when the GW Bridge was closed
Its not that simple, the real troublemakers are smarter than to complain in a way sheeple would notice, they just adjust tactics and strategies from behind the scenes. Victoria Nuland been consulting with Ukrainian secret service recently.
The US bombed hundreds of trucks/infrastructure at collection points in November
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/u-s-destroys-280-isis-oil-t...
Don't sink; capture. Shame to let all that black gold treasure just wash away into the ocean. Plus the crew can tell you everything you need to know.
Don't sink; capture. Shame to let all that black gold treasure just wash away into the ocean. Plus the crew can tell you everything you need to know.
Crew won't tell you anything because they'll all be dead before anyone gets aboard. Don't think for one second there isn't a "security" detail on board with strict orders to kill the crew in such an event. The crew just doesn't know, or doesn't want to know.
You know it would be Obama and the DOJ
HowdyDoody, I like your style.
Related & definitely the funniest thing you'll see today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY6CMSZ9T5Y
And this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME
...and something tells me that ex-business associates IRQ, IRN, and SYR will be looking to recompense the Oil Thieves for the "Bitch" Treatment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIvUGUzR9N0
Saddam was paying kickbacks to French and German politicos; Prolly more than two countries kicking back to Bill and Hill and their laundromat...er "Foundation"
so is Bilal playing the same game? Prolly so.
his gamble is that any politicinas digging into it will have their own little bribery scandals come bubbling to the surface, and that this will provide cover for him
What are you going to believe-me or your own eyes?
well..........my lying eyes saw freight trucks and not tankers.....................but that was an interesting shot of a Predator Drone..
You are right. But you still get down votes because cargo trucks do NOT fit the narrative.
Everytime I see this guy's name, at first it looks like "Belial".
Coincidence?
Only if you're a coincidence theorist...
It was Erdogan who supplied the sarin that killed 1300 Syrains in Ghouta in an attempt to frame Assad. War criminals and their mollycoddled progeny have any credibility?
Seymour Hersh Links Turkey to Benghazi, Syria and Sarin
The assessment of the Defense Intelligence Agency is that the sarin was supplied by Turkey to elements in Ghouta with the intent of “push[ing] Obama over the red line.” Intercepted transmissions from Turkish operators in the aftermath of the attack are jubilant, and the success of their covert mission must have seemed well in hand. Obama’s implicit call to war in the coming month was proof of that.
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/05/06/seymour-hersh-links-turke...
Always great posts from Justobserving. It supports the same pattern of behaviour exhibited for years, most recently (March 2014) an intercepted phone conversation between Turkish cabinet ministers planning to infiltrate Syria to launch a missile attack on Turkey so it could be used as a pretext for invasion. False flags are meat and potatoes to these criminals.
I wondered whether the Pentagon's unwavering support for Erdogan had anything to do with what we already know from Sibel Edmonds about the CIA's support for criminal organizations in Turkey as a part of Operation Gladio B. It gets even more interesting when you read Ergün Poyraz's 2007 book Children of Moses. Poyraz has been sentenced to 29 years in prison for his efforts to expose the links between Israel's neocon-zionist intelligence network and Erdogan.
Before crying foul about being another "zionist conspiracist", take a good look at the fact that the link between Israel's Zionists and the neo-conservatives (Victoria Nuland and her family) who run the US State Dept busy trying to start WWIII with Russia the last few years are not at all tenuous. Neoconservatism in the USA is a Zionist Construct, and the most powerful lobby in American politics is AIPAC.
PS: I think there is a misconception amongst some at ZH of those, like me, who keep pointing the finger of wrongdoing at Israel and Zionists. Perhaps the misconception is deliberate or perhaps it's wilful ignorance, but I have nothing against Jewish folks. In fact I wish they would speak out more about the criminals in their midst who call themselves Zionists, who also come in other religious flavours. Quite frankly, I'd rather not point it out but Zionists are invariably found at the epicentre of so many political and geopolitical crimes in the banking & finance sectors, wars, false flags, and by far the most vocal inciters of hate between different sections of society, dividing and conquering communities with guile. Is it wrong to incite hatred against all jews? Absolutely. Is it wrong to point out that so many criminals and warmongers are Zionists? I don't think so. We have lost good posters at ZH, like Francis Sawyer because of all the whining Zionist bastards who complained that ZH was turning into an extremist site. It never was and it never will be. It's a site for open and honest discussion with factual and informed content in finance and geopolitics. IMO, the ones who post hatred against Jews are most likely Zionist shills trying to bring the site into disrepute. That's their thing - false flags and screaming in pain as they hit out at others. Watch out for them.
immoral? that erdogan doesn't get hit by lightning when he utters words like this is a wonder.
Judgement rarely hits individuals, it is poured out on groups. Turkey may get hit by lightning, or NATO or the US but Erdogan is unlikely to take a direct hit. I know it kind of offends your our sense of justice.
Tell that to Sadam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi.
Saddam and Qaddafi refused to get on the choppah; they had the chance.
At least his margins have been crushed to nil
https://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=QA&p=m1
Any Muslim country accepted into a western alliance is a bad idea, even if they were once a poster child for freedumb and democracy. They all have that religious fanaticism running beneath the surface. Don't let the facade fool you.
Any country accepted into a western alliance is a bad idea.
Any western alliance is a bad idea.
The US has destroyed nearly all the secular Arab regimes, except for Syria.
If US policy was sane it would be allied to Syria and Assad but the US is not sane and supports the head choppers.
And where you find Turkey, you find NATO.
This is a little off topic but at the same time a bullseye.
The Imperial Collapse Playbookhttp://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/12/the-imperial-collapse-playbook.html
He forgot the Eunatoed Nations
Blah blah blah...
enough bullshit talk already, Russia and her allies should just start sinking ships and start destroying all the oil transport mechanisms used by ISIS. My guess is that there is something far more sinister in the works...
Amazing how Israel is not being targeted by ISIS/ISIL during any of this...
Just a coincy-dink, I'm sure ... but haven't radical jihadist muslims always loved the land of the Chosen?
Yes it is amazing how "All Arabs hate Israel", and yet ISIS has yet to blow-up a a dreidel game in downtown Tel Aviv, or bomb a bris.
On an unrelated note:
In the last 3 days, I've been out in public, and overheard people discussing The Fed, Gold, Oil, and other interesting topics.
What makes it interesting, is the fact that I overheard these conversations in the LAST places you'd ever expect to hear a discussion on economics.
The point being, is that people are waking up.
Smashing post my good man,
makes you go hmmmmmmmmm.
"Amazing how Israel is not being targeted by ISIS/ISIL during any of this..."
Let me see..........
Because Israel is up to its neck in ISIS?
Because al Baghdadi works for Mossad?
Because Israel wants to steal Syrian oil along with Cheney & Rothschild? (see Craig Murray)
This is only one reason why Bibi is keeping his blah blah mouth shut.
Cheap ISIS oil is another.
Israeli General Captured in Iraq Confesses to Israel-Isis CoalitionBy Nahed Al-Husaini on October 21, 2015
“There is a strong cooperation between MOSSAD and ISIS top military commanders...Israeli advisors helping the Organization on laying out strategic and military plans, and guiding them in the battlefield”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/21/breaking-story-israeli-general-captured-in-iraq-confesses-to-israel-isis-coalition/
Israeli Army Colonel Captured in Iraq along ISIS MilitantsHe's a doucher.
How can you tell when a Muslim is lying to an "infidel"?
When his lips are moving.
In a general sense that is true of Jews, but exceptions exist everywhere.
In a general sense, I don't agree with incorporating LYING into a religious belief system whether it's Jews or Muslims.
Is that clear enough for you?
The Koran allows Muslims to tell lies to Infidels if it done to further the cause of Allah.
You just need more faith. Yeah,...that's the ticket.
Expecting truth out of the world's longest running con is more than a little naive.
Islam is a cancer.
Unchecked, you die. And if it doesn't kill you, or you don't agree to it's terms, you'll wish you were dead.
I'm reaching the conclusion, there are no good Muslims.
And fuck the " Muslim Light" rhetoric. There is no provision for that in their good book.
Open your eyes people. We need to nip this shit in the bud.
They will use our benevolence against us. I don't agree to a suicide pact to tolerate these walking hefty bags.
"No good Muslims"?
When the Turks allowed the jihadis to cross the border to attack and overrun the Armenian town Kessab who fought to liberate and protect the town?
It was the Syrian army of mostly Muslim young men that were fighting and dying.
While the US and its Anglosphere and EU vassals and their proxies in the Middle East Turkey, SA, and Qatar aid and abet the jihadi head choppers and liver eaters.
The is why we Armenians and other Orthodox Christians support Assad and his Russian allies and are turning away from the West. And from me personally to you in the West: go f**k yourselfs.
"ISIS is an enemy of my country. ISIS is a disgrace. It puts my religion in a bad light. They don't represent Islam and I do not consider them to be Muslims.”
You tell 'em Bilalalalalalah in the name of Allah.
Allah Ackbar!
All Ah! At The Bar!
Ah, but is he funding Snack Bars?
"I do not consider them to be muslims....but their checks clear, so...."
Don't we pay the CIA to figure out this shit?
Wait a minute...they did
That's probably to dangerous for them but on the other side... they know what YOU did last summer...
hell....
maybe I should send the NSA my holldiay pics to tag the people and add a time and location on them because I forgot to put that function on on my camera.
If you use the camera on your phone they already have that info.
Figured out?
Half the tanker truck drivers are on the CeyeA payroll.
They engineered the caper.
‘Member the heads up leaflets? .. The CeyeA hates losing wet assets. A few trucks? Hey, they were high mileage and have been being flogged across the desert in an abrasive environment. … Besides Bectel Corp has some newer units on the way east as we speak. ….. Those old burning trucks make a good show and tell at the Pentgraph briefy Lie-in’, “See! See! We bombed some trucks!”
~ DC
The Turks are in deep water and are in a little trouble. The fear in the back of Recep Tayyip Erdogan head is the military ousting him.
The Army may be quite passive at the moment but the minute it goes south they will stage a regime change. Given Erdogans treatment of senior army figures this in reality means a purge of all the Islamists in Turkey starting with Recep.
I would advise Erdogan to start to watch reruns of Nicolae Ceausescu last day because that will be him and his entire family.
The only thing worth seeing in the back of Erdogan's head is a slug.
Or a machete..."This is for TURKEY!"
CIA gotta crank up the war on Donbass to get everyone's attention away from the isis money machine turkey.
"ISIS is an enemy of my country. ISIS is a disgrace. It puts my religion in a bad light. They don't represent Islam and I do not consider them to be Muslims.”
"But that doesn't mean I can't, or shouldn't, do business with them."
toady: You know, you could replace "ISIS" with "JPM" or "GS" and your comment would still be true for a lot of folks.
The longer it goes on, the more the "War on Terror" looks like facade on 9/11, the False Flag attack by Israeli-Neocons on the US.
They are losing, and will be hung if normal politics resumes, so that can't be allowed. The Israeli-Neocon problem then, is to prevent peace and normal politics.
Not making sense, pure chaos, is fine for that, maybe even better. Opposition can organize if your strategy is coherent. But they have not been able to hide all the connections, and 9/11 was too big to be hidden. They will hang, and the tipping point is coming.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/12/08/the-next-nuremberg-trials/
Let the Erdogan clan Burn!!
TAQIYAH nonsense of the pseudo religious muzzelman.
I liked the spying on the spy plane part.
So did I. How in the hell did our drone miss being intercepted? Unbelievable.
Israel the Main Buyer of ISIS Oil — ReportMultiple reports claim that Israel is the top purchaser of smuggled ISIS oil
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/israel-main-buyer-isis-oil-report/...
http://www.globes.co.il/en/article.aspx?did=1001084873
Why woudn't they buy it ? Oil is fungiblle, its being sold either way.. Besides probably keeps the suicide bombers out of Tel Aviv
Do they use it, or sell some of it to the US for $100/bbl?
Well duh. What country is closest to the region yet has the resources to buy that much oil?
3 guesses and the 1st two don't count.
Sure Bilal we believe you, you filthy lying Turkish cunt! We believe you just as much as we believe the duplicitous Vichy DC in that, they know nothing of your complicity in being a player in Daesh funding activities.
If Vichy DC & the Neocons had the slightest sniff that Assad was working with Daesh then the Scum would ask for their illegal arm shipments to Daesh back.
This would all just go away if they put Hillary, Biden or Obama child on their board! http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-13/farce-complete-joe-bidens-son-j...
VLAD the BEAR and Iran have nailed Erdogan's lying ass...
Turkish intelligence has always been very close with the Mossad and Shin Bet.
Vlad may not be perfect but the more I know about him the more I like him, he is FOR Russia and the Russian people.
We have NO ONE in the West looking out for us, the governments of the West are DESTROYING the foundation stock ON PURPOSE.
Then again the Tribe doesn't CONTROL Vlad so maybe that has something to do with it, do you think???
Throughout the centuries much has been written on the subject of “Judaeophobia”, and its reaction towards the Jews. Much less, however, has been written on the causes of “Judaeophobia” despite the fact it is well-known that “Nothing occurs without cause”, (”Nihil sine causa” — N. S. C.).
Jews in Russia and the USSR 1967 Andrey Iv. Diky
"Turkish intelligence has always been very close with the Mossad and Shin Bet."
Turkey/Israel are two sides of the same shekel. As is Saudi Arabia.
"Ok, but someone is buying the oil, and if it’s not Bilal and the Turks, then who is it? Bilal has an answer: “If you follow ISIS oil, you will find Assad,” he contends."
Note that’s the exact same line the US is trying to use, and as we said two weeks ago, it’s not clear why Assad would buy oil from a group that uses the cash at its disposal to wage war against Damascus, especially when one considers that Assad's closest allies (Russia and Iran) are major oil producers. We went on to qualify that by noting that between all the shady middlemen and double dealing, there's really no telling.
If Assad is buying the oil, why are the tanker trucks crossing the border into turkey?
You only have Trump (to make America great again). And the anemic R. Paul.
Putin is for Putin, like any other autocrat. The fact that you people snuggle up to him because his goals have temporarily aligned with your own makes it clear that your morals are situational at best and not to be respected in the least.
The whole thing is a lie but I did get a chuckle from the statement, "He has a cargo ship, but it cannot be used as a tanker,”
Umm, you do know that oil is priced by the barrel and cargo ships can hold barrels.
Funny that none of Obama people in or out of the military talked about oil and the funding of ISIS till the Russian showed up . Obama as usual made a stupid mistake in allowing his web of lies to be exposed by the Russian. Never in my life did I think I would have to look to the Russia for honesty....Obama has done the unthinkable.
Oh, they're not Muslims? So what about all those assholes who commit "Honor Killings" because their daughters looked at a boy the wrong way? So they're not Muslims either? Right......
time to sink these ships...
Let me press the button....please please...
ok, but only one,Vlad wants the other two
But not until they are about to enter the National waters of the destination country.
Then let them deal with "oil on their face". And their beaches. "Petro-tan, it's the new black, Bibi".
Wow nice boats,
They can do a discovery channel show with the crews and captains, Call it'' Deadliest Theft'' my favorite is Armada Breeze, whats yours, Also any crowd funding takers out there for the show?
Right about now, an exiled Turkish cleric is laughing his ass off, all whilst living out the remainder of his years in the Poconos. He's established hundreds of madrases all around the world, and all w/ the oversight of the all so famous alphabet agency (f-trot u-form lima2 echo[lon] rome-o).
He'll never get to spend the billions he's amassed, but that's OK. He amassed it none the less and that was intoxicating enough...
"We build offices in Istanbul ..." the one does not exclude the other... :D
perhaps Bilal... Mr. Robinhood[?], could/should show some appreciation for his clandestine 'merrymen(ussa) for making $Billion's$ off the lives of his sacrificed 'turkoman flank'! afterall, it is their blood being shed in the name of the peasants ethereal bounty. although it all seems so mutinized?
just curious how ISIS: Armed to the Teeth, chose USSA weapons over 'bow and arrows'?
https://www.rt.com/ 12/8/15 *'ISIS: Arm'd to the Teeth'
USA has to keep supporting ISIS and can only pretend to do something about it because....
when they attack SA-funded Wahabi ISIS they are in trouble. SA will start selling oil for anything but USD. Large scale war can no longer be financed because USA is bankrupt technically. These scumbag reliots could be wiped out within two weeks. As long as USA, Israhel,Turkey, Qatar en SA keep supporting them that will not happen. Problem solving ability of politicians is not there. Ability to create problems however....
We know that the US and coalition are not bombing these oil facilities - but I am also wondering why Syria, Iraq, Russia, and Iran are just taking pictures too? Shouldn't they be taking pictures of burned out buildings, oilfield wreckage, and flaming oil trucks?
Burning trucks don't tell you where they're headed.
EXACTLY!
Putin won't bomb ISIS. Not their military locations NOR any of their oil (read money making) infrastructure. Wonder why? Because the Assad regime is in bed with ISIS on the oil production. They jointly operate certain fields and Assad trades electricity and money with ISIS for oil to keep the Assad government running. That is a 100% FACT. That is also why Putin isn't hitting ISIS oil infrastructure.
ZH village idiot returns...
You know you're not supposed to use that hammer on your head, right?
From GMadScientist that remark is priceless +1
If these people had Kirk's tactical sense, they'd bomb the front and rear of a column, and aggressively interrogate the rest. And record everything, of course.
Turkey has given the big FUCK YOU to Baghdad. They are staying in Iraq.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/12/08/440781/Turkey-Iraq-Mosul-Abadi-D...
cute..
no suprise
I see lots and lots of freight trucks.....where are the oil trucks in the video?
We witnessed many photo and video trucks closed type destroyed and burned showing tanks inside held oil, some
obviously well fabricated, others makeshift and even drums, random containers.
This was Russian language sites, forums, where military guys post
"Pour it in my hand for a dime."
more Erdogan ugliness:
https://www.rt.com/news/325077-turkey-arrests-police-chiefs/
taqiyya.
The journalist, Pepe Escobar, reported at the weekend that Bilal Erdogan has been lying low in Bologna, Italy since September, ostensibly to study for a Ph.D in International Relations at the Bologna campus of Johns Hopkins University.
Bilal Erdogan "studying" at SAIS-JHU.
SAIS-JHU
Soleiman the Magnificent had two favorite followers : His son in law, faithful always, Rustem Pasha and his money loving and drunken son Selim who succeeded him...
Erdogan is well on his way!
C'mon!!!!!
We all KNOW that ASSAD is buying the oil! And a shit ton of it! Not just that, but his regime is in on the operation with ISIS directly!
Assad is buying oil from ISIS. Yes. That is 100% a fact. Now, the real question is with what money is Assad buying ISIS oil? Hmm... who are his allies? Well now, it would seem Russia and Iran are "supporting" Syria aren't they? Is Russian and or Iranian money being used to buy oil from ISIS to fuel the syrian government and war machine? That looks to be the case because Syria has no economy or money to speak of. The money to buy ISIS oil is coming from somewhere! SEE BONUS BELOW
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REVEALED: The oil middleman between the Syrian regime and ISIS
A Syrian businessman described as the "middleman" for oil deals between ISIS and Bashar al-Assad's regime will be targeted for European Union sanctions on Saturday.
The listing of George Haswani, the owner of HESCO engineering company, sheds more light on financial links between Syria's regime and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS or Isil or Islamic State or Daiesh).
Isil fighters captured the oilfields of eastern Syria in 2013. Since then, the regime is believed to have funded the jihadists by purchasing oil from Isil. But those links are understood to extend further than was previously thought. Instead of merely being a customer for Isil's oil, the regime is understood to be running some oil and gas installations jointly with the terrorist movement.
Mr Haswani's company, HESCO, operates a gas plant in Tabqa, a town in central Syria which was captured by Isil last August. Officials believe this installation is being run jointly by Isil and personnel from the regime. The gas facility continues to supply areas of Syria controlled by Mr Assad.
Other oil and gas fields in Isil's hands are thought to be operated by personnel who remain on the payroll of the regime's oil ministry. The oil is then sold to Mr Assad, who distributes it in areas he controls at relatively low prices, helping him to win the loyalty of local people.
Sometimes, the regime has paid for the oil by supplying Isil-held towns with electricity.
Mr Haswani, a Christian from the town of Yabroud, will be forbidden from visiting any of the EU's 28 member states from Saturday onwards. Any assets he holds in EU banks will also be frozen.
Philip Hammond, the Foreign Secretary, described Mr Haswani as a "middleman buying oil from Isil on behalf of the regime".
Mr Hammond added: "This listing gives yet another indication that Assad's 'war' on Isil is a sham and that he supports them financially."
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BONUS
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The addition of Mr Haswani to the sanctions list brings to 55 the number of Syrian companies and individuals singled out for EU counter-measures. Another company added to the list on Saturday is accused of supplying Russian-produced banknotes to the Central Bank of Syria. DK Group is described as transferring the banknotes in cargo aircraft flying from Russia to Damascus via a variety of third countries.
Disinformation!
No, just an incredibly stupid conclusion drawn from too few facts.
Disinformation, of course.
This was expected to show up here eventually.
The US has a large team paid to spread CIA propaganda.
They do it the free market way, they contract it out.
You're high.
The name of the middle man above is about to be a huge issue within a very short time. He should probably be afraid for his life because he can link ISIS to Assad to Moscow.
I know they censor the news in Moscow, but the rest of the world can clearly see whats going on and it ain't what you think...
The name of the middle-man makes no sense! Just to clarify, he is Greek, Catholic, with an Arabic name? Why isn't he called Papadopoulos?, And how in hell did he get to be Catholic? Enquiring minds would like to know.
Quite why his religious preference is relevant, I don't know, but I suppose it all makes for additional colour.
Ps - nice disinformation ;-) Well played
Well Russian media thinks he's a real person Sherlock... Take it up with them. Or, let me guess, Russian media is also under the control of some sort of global cabal. Only people like you know the "real truth" right? Lol...
You are correct, of course.
But why do they bother spewing here?
Half of us are MIC and former MIC contractors who know all about the tactics used to confuse everyone else.
Seems like a waste of bandwidth trying to fool us ZH pencileheads.
~ DC
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This alphaspammer guy shows result of contracting with lowest bidder.
Where do you get all this gibberish?
Don’t you have a real job to attend to?
(BTW, I am the boss, so I give myself permission to verbally terrorize ZH once or twice a week.)
~ DC
Boss of what? Lol...
Are you suggesting this isn't a real person? A real person under global sanctions and currently a hot topic in the Russian media? Is that what you're saying?
Disinformation. Hmm... Disinformation. You'd need some first...
Don't worry Bilal, we all believe you; honest.
The Russian airstrikes are likely the only ones targeting al-nusra and ISIS, mostly to secure the coastal region. American and Euro airstrikes are likely providing air support against Shia militias and providing air cover for at least ISIS, maybe al-nusra as well.
The goal according to the Pentagon paper was to create a sunni principality to disrupt the Shia crescent - and that's the goal I imagine they're working toward without confirming it in the MSM.
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Wow! It just gets better!
Syria buying and operating joint oil operations with ISIS with a shady middleman which we now learn has strong ties to ... wait ... wait for it ... MOSCOW! Gee could have never seent that one coming... Lol...
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What’s more, the IS sold that oil back to the Assad regime. This financial dealing was but one aspect of the tacit, opportunistic understanding between Bashar al-Assad and the IS.
A report on Lebanese news site IMLebanon.org on Monday added more information to this angle, further denting the common wisdom regarding Assad and the IS.
The report claimed to identify the middleman who handled the transactions between the regime and terrorist group. According to the site, the man is George Haswani, a Greek Catholic businessman from the town of Yabroud, near the Syrian border with Lebanon.
The report claims that Haswani “was able to forge a relationship with the group that led to an understanding to transport crude from the fields it took over to regime areas, in return for financial and cash transfers, which he himself handled.”
Haswani’s name surfaced in late 2013/early 2014 in another mediatory role, namely the negotiation over the release of nuns then held by Jabhat al-Nusra in Yabroud. Reports at the time described Haswani as a businessman with “close ties to the Assad regime,” and “strong ties” to Assad personally.
A Syrian rebel commander told NPR’s Deborah Amos last year that Haswani “runs an oil and gas construction business with ties to Moscow.” In March, the Syrian pro-opposition website All4Syria provided more data on Haswani’s business and ties to Russia.
Haswani was deputy general manager of the Banias refinery. He had studied in Russia, where he married his first wife. While in Russia, Haswani made contacts, “some of whom,” according to the website’s source, “had gone on to assume high-ranking positions in the Russian security establishment.”
As a result, Haswani’s firm, HESCO Co., “secured contracts with Russian oil and gas firms, as well as in importing spare parts for Russian military vehicles and oil wells.” Haswani’s son-in-law, Yousef Arbash, runs his Moscow office. There, All4Syria’s report added, he works closely with Amjad Douba, nephew of former Military Intelligence chief Ali Douba, who has long been established in Moscow.
Specifically, HESCO is the subcontractor for Russian company Stroytransgaz. In an interview in June of last year, Arbash explained that HESCO has been “strategic partners” with the Russian firm, working on joint projects in Sudan, Algeria, the UAE and Iraq.
The Russian company also signed a deal with the Syrian regime in June of this year for the first phase of an irrigation project for northeast Syria. Haswani was present at the signing, and confirmed moving forward with the Russian company as its subcontractor “on vital projects in Syria despite difficulties in implementation.”
In the Syrian context, the ability to land such contracts would situate Haswani in the class of cronies that the Assad family and its Makhlouf cousins have cultivated and tied to their rule. Haswani’s second marriage was to an Alawite woman from Lattakia “connected to the Assad family.” This could further explain his privileged status and closeness to the ruling family, as well as Assad’s confidence in him as a middleman.
Except you paid trolls that crap no one reads.
I would imagine the CIA and their corporate partners know exactly what's going on with the oil. I suppose we should be happy with whatever revenue this stolen oil has brought in, since the taxpayer tab for the Syrian operation would be much higher without it, similar to the heroin operation in Afghanistan. One of the main reasons of destabilizinf the Middle East is control of energy. We always find that no matter what occurs militarily, coverly or overtly, there is always a plan for the oil and natural gas. Stolen oil means larger profits for the end users of the stolen oil since any any business would love to get their raw materials for half off. Everyone involved in this scheme, including Bilal Erdogan, are just middlemen. I'm sure Turkey expects a significant cut for being the main player.
The US media and the government have done a good job with their domestic propaganda. Most people are clueless so they really don't count. The ones who try to pay attention are given the propaganda. Only those who search for information outside of the MSM get a glimpse of what's really going on. So when we try to talk to our family members or friends about ISIS, who created them, who is funding and arming them, and what the US goals really are, they think you're fucking crazy. How can we be helping the very organization we are telliing everyone is the biggest threat on the planet? It is fucking crazy, no doubt about that.