How to Shorten the War Against ISIS

George Washington's picture

Preface: This is admittedly a hair-brained idea, and is partly tongue-in-cheek. But then again, who's got a better idea for stopping the spread of ISIS terrorism ... while avoiding WWIII between Russia, the U.S. and NATO?

American military and intelligence types claim that the war against ISIS will last for 30 years. And see this.

On the other hand, anti-war activist David Swanson argues that war always results in bad outcomes, so war against ISIS is a bad idea.

After all, ISIS' "capital" city - Raqqa - has many civilians, universities and hospitals. Bombing too heavily would kill a lot of innocent people as well as ISIS terrorists.

Russia, Iran and China argue that war against ISIS is necessary to prevent further terrorism ... but Syria's leader Assad must be supported as best able to fight ISIS on-the-ground. They also argue that the Turks, Saudis and other Gulf tyrannies, and the U.S. and its allies are the main supporters of ISIS.

The U.S. and its allies argue that war against ISIS is necessary ... but that Assad has to be taken out in the process.

Who's right? What should be done?

Initially, it's obvious that ISIS' support should be cut off.  Since Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait - all close U.S. allies - have been supporting ISIS, we have to tell them to knock it off.

But I'm also not opposed to sending in a million troops into Raqqa to quickly finish off ISIS once and for all.  Only shoot at people who shoot first.  Arrest people who are with ISIS (ask the locals ... they'll know).

If an international coalition - including both states which want Assad gone and states which want to support Assad - form a coalition for the sole purpose of wiping out ISIS, we could get the job done very quickly.

The U.N. Security Council - made up of the U.S., UK, China, France, and Russian Federation, as well as various non-permanent members - could oversee the effort.

The U.S. couldn't dictate Russian policy or demand that Assad leave ... likewise, Russia couldn't dictate U.S. policy or demand that Assad stay.  We'd leave all of that for another day.

But everyone - the West, the Arab countries, China, everyone - sends in troops for the focused, limited purpose of eradicating ISIS.

Anyone who doesn't send troops will be declaring that they're with ISIS.  U.S. won't send in troops because the Russians won't commit to ousting Assad? Then the U.S. is supporting ISIS.

Russians won't send in troops because the U.S. won't commit to letting Assad stay? Then Russia is supporting ISIS.

This is bigger than Assad ... or other geopolitics. ISIS is dangerous, and launching terrorism worldwide.

A million troops could quickly sweep into Raqqa and restore an ISIS-free city.

What do you think?

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YHC-FTSE's picture

"American military and intelligence types claim that the war against ISIS will last for 30 years"

I think that should read, "American military and intelligence types WANT the war against ISIS to last for 30 years"

 

Oh George. A million soldiers would indeed clear them out in a hurry....to Turkey or elsewhere. Not only that, a West-East coalition force would eventually end up bickering amongst themselves, each with their own agenda & turf. The USA would certainly create more terror groups on their turf with catchy names (Judean Liberty Freedom Fries Front?) to continue the original strategy of removing Assad, turning Syria into another ME shithole so Israel can steal more land, Qataris and Saudis can have their pipeline and export their Wahhabists to play with the broken shell of a nation at perpetual war.

No, the only way to stop ISIS is stop OUR politicians from supplying, funding and training more terrorists. We know that the oft repeated "Moderate" rebel is a fantasy. Stop creating more terrorists, stop supplying arms to them, stop sending them money. No more bullets = no more war very quickly. Help the Russians, Iranians and Syrians get rid of ISIS and its ilk, including the Syrian-free Army (Get it? Syrian-free because there aren't any Syrian in it). Help Assad rebuild his country, give him security and then keep your fingers crossed that all the bullshit we've heard about Assad is just that: Bullshit propaganda. The Syrians should get the leaders they want and by all the recent polls, they want Assad.

marathonman's picture

Want to stop ISIS?  End the Fed.  It's just that simple.

Benito_Camela's picture

Question, since I mentioned it in response to another commenter above:

What, exactly, happened last time you guys linked to a (third party?) host that was serving up the latest issue of Dabiq?

It appeared that they received a cease and desist, and mind-bogglingly, complied?!

Does ISIS have a high-powered IP attorney working on their behalf? 

Did you ever get/provide an explanation for that seemingly inexplicable (minus CIA involvement) turn of events?

WhyWait's picture

GW, this is a really good idea - reminiscent of the anti-fascist alliance against Hitler from 80 years ago, one that Roosevelt and the American people shoved down the throats of our multi-millionaire bankers and industrialists who were supporting and financing Hitler and trying to get the US and Britain to sign on to his great War on Russia.

I doubt the time is ripe yet to win this anti-ISIS coalition, but not too soon to start demanding it.

By the way, it is not too far off from what Putin is calling for.  

BTW, u da best!

Crocodile's picture

How to shorten the war; mass suicide by all mankind or Jesus Christ?  Only two ways.

AGuy's picture

"How to shorten the war; mass suicide by all mankind or Jesus Christ? Only two ways."

By shorting the war, is to prempt the proxy war with a very hot thermonuclear war. I suspect WW3 will be over in a matter of hours. The Syria/ISIS/Iraq is a major proxy war

 

Lost in translation's picture

Why are Muslims being settled all over the world?  They're in South Korea, did you know that?  WTH are they doing there?

Another ZHer just posted Latin Arabia blog's link, which I never knew about.  What are Muslims doing in South America?

What on earth is going on?

Crocodile's picture

The Jews (not of Abraham-the other majority) are using Islam to divide and conquer the nations; they give them a bad religion and narcotics and brain pollute their minds to do the work for them.  The goal is the same as the Jihadist; to dominate the world in the name of "god" where there is no true "god".  The Jews murdered the Messiah, who is Jesus, the true God who is the "Prince of Peace", the one who sacrificed Himself, so that we don't have to drink His cup of wrath in the eternal state...that is true love, what the world needs and badly..

steelhead23's picture

Why not try this - have an ecuminical council of leaders of global religion denounce not just Daesh, but all forms of religious zealotry that spout killing in the name of the one, true God.  But yes, have that conversation with the House of Saud - Wahhabism is dangerous, it seeks to rise above all other religions and forms of Islam - and encourages its zealots to do so at the point of a sword.  In my view, the mass killing of war almost always leads to resentment and further bloodshed.  We have to change their minds, not blow them apart.  Wouldn't we rather live peacefully in a land of earthly delights than cause others to suffer?

CharlieMike's picture

Better yet send 100 Army rangers to the federal reserve building and blow it up.

Cautiously Pessimistic's picture

I like the cut of your jib.

 

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Buster Cherry's picture

And just where are all these troops supposed to go to the bathroom?

Reaper's picture

A mercenary army runs on money. A city eats from outside supplies. Anyone working with the Muslim raised Liar-in-Chief will be burned. Starve the beasts.

Sandmann's picture

The only way is to reintroduce the draft in the US. Call up ALL College age kids without deferments and send them to all the places the Us has screwed up in the past 15 years - Afghanistan, Kosovo, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Nigeria and let them fight the good fight as an act of atonement. To help them they could have Russian, Iranian, generals instead of the usual dunderheads the Pentagon hires

wildbad's picture

nope. just look.  everybody wants into the kill isis game now, even if their real purpose is something else.  the us bombed assds troops yesterday and then said, "what bombing?  what troops?"  the russians are doing fine without fat boy holland, or mouseman cameron or barry sotero (the pussy).

us, quatar, saudi, nato caused isis.  they should stay the flock out.

vlad will impale them with assads and irans and hezbollas troops.  don't confuse the issue with half hearted fakers.

Contrariologist's picture
Contrariologist (not verified) Dec 9, 2015 8:43 AM

The ONLY way to win is to not play the game.

overmedicatedundersexed's picture

dunkin donuts, mcky D's, domino's, coke, pepsi, and alittle fluride for the water..after a few months of that stuff every isis man will be fat happy and unable to move..oh free TV too, with foot ball 24/7..nobody needs to die here. GW you war monger you. :-)

Dr. Bonzo's picture

Sorry George, you lost me on this one. I'm a bit surprised at this op-ed to be honest. The quickest way to finish off ISIS? Terminate the CIA and end military support to Israel. ISIS only exists because the CIA funds their leadership and the Mossad train them. You think the dumbfuck muslim kids from Parisian and Brussels slums could rub two twigs together without some CIA-financed training and weapons?

All that butchery shit is designed to stoke your goat. Assymetric warfare son. Outside the box thinking type shit. Fight evil at the source. ISiS isn't the disease, it's the symptom.

Crocodile's picture

Sorry Doc; unrealistic, you do not seem to understand the underlying and core problem...the inherent nature of all mankind.  Cry's for peace all the time and only gets war and points the finger everywhere except for the man in the mirror...with only a few exceptions...hope you are one of them.

 

BTW -  I did not down-vote nor up vote

silverer's picture

That's strongly true.  Not one these fighters could take the fight more than two days on their own personal finances.  If you had to stop working, pick up an AR, and fight for the next two years on your own wallet, how effective could you be?  Yep.  It's money.  Stop the money, stop the war.

WTFUD's picture

Yes Siree, you don't need a forensic scientist to determine that ZATO & sPyNet.Gov are responsible for the faux war on terror, including False Flags, Recreational Drone Take-Outs and Colour Revolutions.

To request their cooperation in eradicating the DAESH would render the above partnerships and associations obsolete/redundant . . . and we couldn't have that could we GW?

ZATO will fight tooth & nail until the Last Poppy Seed in Afghanistan has germinated.

BullyBearish's picture

Yes, once again the answer to all of these questions is, "ZDCC--Zionist Culture of Death and Destruction"

WTFUD's picture

Why does Putin seek a Coalition with ZATO against DAESH when ZATO has had a Coalition in place with DAESH for several years?

FFS, ZATO = DAESH

Sandmann's picture

Putin knows NATO is a US front. He simply wants to detach France and Germany

Gold Eyed Cat's picture

OR, we could let Isreal fight it's own wars.

Grandad Grumps's picture

To eradicate ISIS, bomb: Basel, Canary Wharf (and the City) and Wall Street. IMO, the problem is not a bunch of unhappy Muslims, but the corrupting power that funds the creation of mercenary armies and directs it at states that do not have BIS tied central banks.

Syria, like Iran (and previously like Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, now conquered) do not have BIS tied central banks.

It does not take a genius to figure out that there is a pattern here and that if the corrupting money power is neutralized, the problem goes away.

hendrik1730's picture

The idea is fine but the bankers won't allow for it since THEY make fortunes as a result of ongoing wars. The BANKERS are the real culprits, politicians from all over are bought by them. Guess who have nice seats in board of directors etc. at banks? Yep, mainstream politicians and old aristocracy ( the real owners of the planet, the French forgot to decapitate them all in 1789 )

Kprime's picture

What do I think?  What do I think?  There is not a politician, government or military on this planet that ever ever ever want's this war to end.  We are going to keep sending our fighting men in just a few at a time so ISIS can keep killing them and keep this war alive.  We even keep sending the military gear they need to stay in the war.

boeing747's picture

Any Islam country which doesn't agree ideaology of isis shall march to syria/iraq under UN command.

Okienomics's picture

They're BEGGING for such an invasion.  The name of their publication is Dabiq - the name of the region where the caliphate will face the non-muslim forces of the world.  Send armies there and Muslims will pour into the region on a vast scale.  Bad idea.  The best strategy is to isolate, starve, attack - make their freaking lives miserable.  Russia has this one right and the U.S. would do well to work with Putin on this one.

EXCELLENT article on "What ISIS Really Wants" follows....

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wan...

Benito_Camela's picture

ISIS' Dabiq publishing desk is really quick to get in touch with their legal staff when they need to issue cease and desist warnings to the likes of ZeroHedge.

Last time TD linked to a third party hosted copy of the latest Dabiq, it was dutifully taken down within seconds of hearing from ISIS' crack team of intellectual property attorneys.

In addition to the incredibly high production value and flawless use of the English language in Dabiq, it is amazing how a stateless, criminal organization made up of backwards Islamists and disaffected, undereducated European youth is able to bring this kind of action to bear and that people comply with their demands.

Or is there something more to the story?

 

ThroxxOfVron's picture

1. Send ALL of the sons and grandsons of the world's political and economic leaders.

Let the rich and powerful pay for their wealth and power with their own blood instead of charging the poor and oppressed the lives of their children for the right to exist for the further enrichment of the elites.

2. Nuke 'em and keep the kids in school.  We paid to maintain the fucking 'arsenal' for over 50 years and it is the only thing that has purportedly stopped a broad trans-national/world war cold.  

Obviously no one is deterred by the non-use of these supposed 'weapons of deterence'.

Use 'em or decomission the entire lot and quit charging the tax donkeys for this ineffective bullshit excuse of a 'deterent'.

Nukes or the draft of the sons of the elites to the front lines.  No more sending the poor to useless endless wars and cease both charging the serfs for ineffective defences and sending their progeny off to die for the wealth of other men.

Pliskin's picture

Plan A: Drop some kind of anaesthetic gas on the whole city, everybody unconscious, send in the troops (10,000 from each member of the U.N.S.C = 50,000) seperate the men, women and children, when they come around, feed them, health check, question them all, weed out the IS members.  The rest return to life in their city with maybe $1000 each for their troubles.

Plan B:  Strap Mcain to the biggest nuclear missile in the U.S. arsenal and drop it on the city from a B52.

Plan C:  Get the useless coalition, that the U.S. put together, the fuck outa dodge and let the Russians, Syrians, Iranians and Hezbollah sort it all out (Of which I'm sure they'd be more than capable)

There's three viable options right there, off the top of my head, it's not fucking rocket surgery.

(As a side note I also have a great plan that involves an Iskander missile and Hilary's arse, but it's got fuck all to do with IS or Syria...email me for details)

 

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Buster Cherry's picture

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Are you trying to get us all killed?

;)

VWAndy's picture

Hang about 50 bankers a day until all the wars stop. Just sayin it could work. Even if it dont we prolly better off anyway.

Otrader's picture

This is the best option, VWAndy.  Since, we're not hearing anything out of the so called 'candidates' on the banker rapes, this strategy is our only hope.  I really wish more people would wake up and realize what's being done in their name. 

Manthong's picture

Maybe include executives and board members for the top 50 multi-national corporations and all defense contractors?

hwwesq3's picture

I dream of a serial killer who picks them off one-by-one, who is so smart that she/he is never caught.

Doppelganger71's picture

No offense, dude, but you had it right on the first sentence..............................

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The only people who really want to shorten this war have no voice. Even if they did, nobody would listen.

They are, for all intents and purposes, invisible.

Dick Buttkiss's picture

Forget it. War Is the Health of the State:

[Randolph] Bourne's famous seven-word slogan, which arose in reaction to World War I, contains a complexity of meaning that is often overlooked by those who use it. To grasp this complexity, it is necessary to explore the theoretical contexts within which the saying originated. ...

In converting World War I into a holy war, the intellectual and psychological groundwork was being laid for future instances of what he termed "the sport of the upper class" — global conflict.

http://www.wendymcelroy.com/articles/warfreem.html

The only way to end war, in other words, is to end the State.

 

xavi1951's picture

ISIS, like Al Qaeda, will NEVER go away.  Sadly, they will NEVER be beaten.  They are ideologies and theologies from a book that tells them what to do.  However, I am all for any idea that will neutralize as many of them as possible.  Nerxt time they have a parade, send them a cruise missle with antipersonnel clusters.

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"ISIS, like Al Qaeda...are ideologies and theologies..."

They are not ideologies nor are they theologies. They are artificial constructs.

Tarzan's picture
"How to Shorten the War Against ISIS"

 

No need for a long drawn out plan, the solution is so simple a child could figure this out,

 

STOP SUPPLYING THEIR FUCKING WEAPONS!

Tarzan's picture

PS,  Sending in a million troops to "Only shoot at people who shoot first."

is the dumbest idea yet!

How did that plan work out in Vietnam?

I tell you what, you send your children to "Only shoot at people who shoot first." and I'll send you a sympathy card when the men in black show up at your front door to inform you of your child's heroic death!