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Putin Hopes "There Will Be No Need To Nuke" The Islamic State

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Earlier today, in a clear advance notice to the French and US navies which are both set to arrive just off the coast of Syria in the coming weeks, Russia for the first time targeted Islamic State targets in Syria with Kalibr land-attack cruise missiles launched from a submarine in the Mediterranean Sea off the Syrian coastline, according to Russia’s Defense Minister.

According to RT, the 3M-54 Kalibr missiles were launched from the Kilo-class diesel-electric submarine “Rostov-on-Don”, Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu told President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday.

While as reported here before, Russian warships based in the Caspian and Mediterranean seas had launched similar missiles targeting ISIS positions in late November, this was the first time that Russia has targeted IS in Syria from a submarine.

The submarine cruise missile launch and subsequent strikes are shown in the clip below:

According to a Kremlin transcript of the conversation, Shoigu told Putin that the missiles successfully targeted two major terrorist positions in the territory of Raqqa, adding that “we can say with absolute confidence that significant damage has been inflicted upon ammunition warehouses and a mine production plant, as well as the oil infrastructure."

In addition to the submarine, a Russian Ministry of Defense source revealed that the Rostov-on-Don, equipped with modern Russian Kalibr cruise missiles, had appeared near the Syrian coast. Additionally, just before the USS Harry S. Truman carrier arrives, the Russian cruiser Varyag, which is currently off India’s coast for Exercise Indra till Dec. 12, will set sail for the Mediterranean to replace the cruiser Moskva.

 

However, what was most notable in today's update by the Russian defense ministry was neither the news about the sub, or the second ship deployment, but what Putin told Shoigu during their conversation according to the Kremlin's transcript. Which is as follows:

Regarding the submarine strikes we must, of course, analyze everything that happens on the battlefield, how the weapons acts. Both the "Kalibrs" and the X-101 rockets as a whole proved to be very good. This new, modern, highly efficient, and highly precise weapon can be equipped with both a conventional warhead as well as a special, nuclear warhead.  Naturally, in the fight against terrorism that is unnecessary, and I hope there will be no need [to use nukes against the Islamic State].

But, if it is.... which of course was the unsaid message: Russia not only can deploy tactical nuclear warheads to Syria overnight, but it may, "not now", but eventually be forced to use them against "the Islamic State."

And just like that Putin hinted that the Syrian proxy war, as it escalates ever wider and drags in increasingly more countries in true "world war" fashion, may just have one or more mushroom clouds in its near future; clouds which will will target none other than the CIA's pet project designed to take down Assad - the Islamic State. We are not sure if this particular cloud will have a silver lining, but we are confident that not even Turkey will want to buy ISIS oil if it happens to have the same radioactivity profile as Fukushima.

 

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Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:34 | 6897648 Salah
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I could see Vlad using a low-yield nuke from a corvette in the Caspian; the Pentagon would resume shitting turds from a month back

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:39 | 6897666 jm
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Only on this site can you find enough fringe lunatics to think this is somehow a positive.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:41 | 6897676 Philo Beddoe
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You should get out more. Self mutilation is da bomb, baby. 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:43 | 6897678 jm
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God I miss capcha.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:44 | 6897682 The Juggernaut
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@jm: If fiercely defending the US Constitution and Liberty is fringe lunacy then what are the people who violate them called?

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:45 | 6897689 LetThemEatRand
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Republicans and Democrats.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:50 | 6897703 LowerSlowerDela...
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Better that Putin nuke Islam than the U.S.  Think there is blowback now?

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:01 | 6897748 Otrader
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What blowback?  We had a false flag to bring in more ligislation and support for the ongoing war on ERROR.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:22 | 6897802 LowerSlowerDela...
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Yes, they are all false flags.  Same with Pearl Harbor.  Man did we spend money  on the military by faking a Jap attack on Hawaii.  And the moon landing thing - all done on a Hollywood set.  Fake, fake, fake...  I'm with ya, dude!

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:38 | 6897876 Hapte
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What happened to your old profile mate?

Or did you steal Ass Crackers Tractor?

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:52 | 6897934 COSMOS
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3315347/Watch-heart-pounding-mom...

Guess Israel doesnt bomb all terrorist muslims.

http://news.yahoo.com/finland-says-asylum-seekers-free-203237327--financ...

maybe they should make them work on a kibbutz for the free healthcare

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 02:31 | 6898164 PersonalRespons...
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They already did.


Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:36 | 6898046PersonalRespons...
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Get to work ZH and look at some of the CCD sensor distortions from some of the close filming. fuck 


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Check out 1:55 in.  Unless it's faked, it's gamma or alpha, or whatever waves smashing the CCD.  Drop a camera into a Fukushima reactor blown core, same thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWveLHVG7mo  I'm not an expert but seems like fairly straight forward science.

 

Happens at 27 seconds in as well.  barf

 

 


Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:51 | 6898086PersonalRespons...
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If not faked, fuck. :(


Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:19 | 6898125PersonalRespons...
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If this video vaporises after this post then there are a lot of questions to be answered.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJbwSxMYHlQ

 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 02:54 | 6898173 PersonalRespons...
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boo

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 03:33 | 6898234 BuddyEffed
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This type of news can lead to a very strong short covering rally!

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 07:17 | 6898427 VinceFostersGhost
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Only on this site can you find enough fringe lunatics to think this is somehow a positive.

 

Sooo.....how's everything going on Huffpo?

 

No...I'm not going to look.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 07:47 | 6898454 Manthong
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Seems like ol’ Vlad is taking control of the dialog..

Just like the Donald is.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 08:17 | 6898506 RiverRoad
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Thank god.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 08:39 | 6898541 VinceFostersGhost
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The GOP is going into orbit and will nuke Trump from space.

 

 

It's the only way to be sure.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 09:00 | 6898590 Dr. Spin
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TPTB put out a 'wanted' poster for Trump:  Dead or Alive, they don't care...

Spoctor Din

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 04:56 | 6903229 Jtrillian
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Less than 24 hours afer Putin warns of the escalating situation leading to the possible use of Nukes...

via BreakingNews.com

Israel's Arrow 3 ballistic missile interceptor aced first full trial, hit target in space, defense ministry says - @DanWilliams, @MoDIsrael
It is this kind of wreckless provocation that is going to kick off WWIII.

 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 05:39 | 6898342 Tall Tom
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That was video of a Saudi Arabia attack against Yemen some six months ago.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfOjy-ij4S0

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 07:01 | 6898415 Tarshatha
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Aiding and abeting the enemy is treason.

But not for Israel, because ISIS is their proxy army.

Oil = shekels = Greater Israel Project

US, line your non chosen children up to die for Israel.

 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:01 | 6897968 LowerSlowerDela...
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It just stopped working one day. No explanation. Maybe someone felt that crackers were micro-aggressions that violated her safe space. Banned?...

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 02:26 | 6898156 Hapte
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Are you still a Rocket Scientist then?

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 07:51 | 6898457 VinceFostersGhost
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Maybe....do you have problem with that?

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 15:23 | 6899550 LowerSlowerDela...
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Yes, still a Creepy A. rocket scientist who drives a 1976 Ford 3600 tractor.  After Creepy A. disappeared I thought that I'd leave my profile a mystery.  Too many micro-aggressions and safe space violations in it?

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:03 | 6897975 McCormick No. 9
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Hey, don't hate on the dude's tractor! That is a beautiful 1950's vintage Ford 8N. That tractor single-handedly revolutionized agriculture. Frming is still largely done with adaptations of innovations first introduced with that machine. Plus, it is beautiful.

By the way, in regards to Putin's cruise missile and submarine launched missiles, all I can say is: "Practice makes perfect. Real world practice makes perfect better."

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:43 | 6897877 NoDebt
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@LSD (and I just now noted your screen name abbreviates nicely into that acronym)- on ZH everything is a false flag.  It's like a religion around here or something.  You just gotta roll with it.  Used to bother me, but now it's just a reminder that you should always consider the source of the information.  Keeps you on your toes that not everything is as reported by the MSM.

Not sure if it's a blessing or a curse, but it serves a legitimate purpose.  The only thing we know for sure is that the dinosaurs died off because of a CIA black op.

 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:55 | 6897920 MsCreant
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Raycissssss!

Hissssss!

Hissss!

[Cough, cough]

Wheeze.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 04:12 | 6898265 Automatic Choke
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all your (3rd world) virgins is belong to us.....

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 06:39 | 6898393 Mine Is Bigger
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I think (3rd world) is redundant, unless you were talking about men.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 07:54 | 6898460 VinceFostersGhost
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Raycissssss!

 

Yup...I can't stand white Norwegians.....there I said it......and I'm totally standing by it.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 11:13 | 6899340 FrankDrakman
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Especially Harald and Sigurd. Those guys are assholes. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:41 | 6898056 Otrader
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So, after Operation Northwood was nixed by Kennedy, the false flags just stopped?

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/northwoods.html

 

 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:40 | 6898058 Pliskin
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I thought the Jews killed all the dinosaurs?

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 16:45 | 6900780 LowerSlowerDela...
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@NoDebt - I appreciate it.  The everything-is-a-false-flag types (obviously most on ZH) don't bother me.  It's kind of fun.  The over the top reaction to someone not believing that everything is a false flag is fun to read.  Totally spastic in some cases!  :)  I prefer to think things through, as I can see you do. And I rarely believe the legacy media.  THey have a solid, Big Government, Central PLanning, agenda.

Maybe I should stop poking the false flag gods...  :)

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 02:49 | 6898181 Save_America1st
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you're a fuckin' retard

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 11:04 | 6899277 froze25
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Its clear as day now that there was advanced warning before the Japanese plans hit pearl harbor. That warning was not sent to Pearl Harbor. So it wasn't as if it was fake but it was aloud to happen to have maximum damage. Big difference between a surprise attack and an attack you are warned about.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:23 | 6897822 El Vaquero
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No mate, Islamic terror totally ruins the narrative that they had going.  The news bent over backward to try to make San Bernardino as another crazy white guy with an assault rifle.  I watched the news reports come in while listening to the police scanner and the news was clearly injecting shit that was wrong.  Had this been a crazy white nutter on SSRIs, you were going to see a humongous push for gun control. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:40 | 6897888 NoDebt
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You and your facts.  Pish posh.  Like we're NOT seeing a humongous push for gun control anyway?

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:52 | 6897935 El Vaquero
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Naw, our shitfuck president has kind of given up on the gun control thing for now.  He's going to push something that was rejected by congress, what, a day or two before his little speech?  I'm referring to the no fly list thing there, of course.  Other than that, it was some vague shit about congress should do some shit about assault rifles and shit. 

Our government, deep state included, is scared of us.  Enough people in CT decided to not register their "assault" rifles to send up some serious red flags.  Us gun nuts ain't giving another fucking inch. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:14 | 6897996 OldPhart
Wed, 12/09/2015 - 06:28 | 6898382 new game
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dick control, see spot anywhere Jane?

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:51 | 6897709 MANvsMACHINE
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Vlad is playing chess.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:41 | 6897895 NoDebt
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Obama still trying to figure out why the red checkers and black checkers taste the same.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:46 | 6897910 38BWD22
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Ouch!  LOL,,,

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 02:36 | 6898169 JuliaS
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#blackcheckersmatter

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 03:08 | 6898202 iClaudius
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'Obama still trying to figure out why the red checkers and black checkers taste the same.'
No, not even Obama's that stupid as to put them in his mouth after he's shoved them up his arse.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:55 | 6897947 Blankone
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No, he is playing poker and bluffing, again.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:47 | 6898052 Implied Violins
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...while Barry shoves the white bishop up his muslin ass. It ain't the Pope, Barry...

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 03:05 | 6898200 WTFMOFO
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But it will hair lip the Pope

 

 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 07:30 | 6898444 L_Estasi_dell_Oro
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"Republicans and Democrats."

 

^ This is my favorite internet reply of the week. A tasty mixture of wittiness, cynicism and facts. Bravo!

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:47 | 6897693 jm
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@stupidass: This post is about Putin implicitly threatening the use of nuclear weapons in the middle east. Why do sick little people that worship power raise him up like a pagan god?

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:52 | 6897707 Philo Beddoe
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God, I miss people with an IQ greater than a titmouse. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:25 | 6897828 Baby Bladeface
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Clinical idiots, not able to adequately perceive the reality.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:37 | 6897874 Philo Beddoe
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Yeah, Congress is fucked. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 08:22 | 6898515 RiverRoad
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Trump is call'in Congress out.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:38 | 6897878 Implied Violins
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Titmouse? Man, I gotta go to porntube and see what one of those is.

Oh, wait...

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:06 | 6897981 DeadFred
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They are relatives of the blue footed booby, doncha know?

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 02:20 | 6898149 Kirk2NCC1701
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So you miss the JFK and Reagan administrations?  Both of whom made milestone changes in the world -- mostly for the better.  Although both had their shares of fuck ups, admittedly.  At least when JFK fucked up, there was MM or Jackie on top.  ;-)

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 04:27 | 6898282 Rogue Trooper
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Wow, pure GOLD.  I think ZH has founds it's mojo again.

We're still fucked.  Let's get this over with..... dust off those neutron bombs and let's take the 'Texas Tea' in 'raq back.

 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:52 | 6897713 fudge
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No,,This post is about Putin implicitly threatening the use of nuclear weapons on any one who chooses to do harm to the Russian Federation, that includes the fools in the US, NATO, and the fucking jew cowards in Jizrael.

You should take this a fair warning that russia will go all the way.

and a fuck you retard from a Russian

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:57 | 6897735 jm
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Uhh... Putin just injected the Russian Federation into harm's way. Solution? Nuke it.

Capcha, where are you?

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:59 | 6897742 fudge
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If you like sucking dick so much you capture me in your mouth ;)

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:15 | 6897789 El Vaquero
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LOL if you think that we could nuke Russia without getting hit ourselves.   The whole goddamned world is on a collision course for something bad.  Hopefully this convinces our neocons that facing a mass of civil wars is a better option than WWIII.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:18 | 6897805 jm
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sigh. Putin goes to ME.  Putin gets a shot in the mouth (via Turkey). Putin tells the pesants at home that he will use a nuke if needed (see this post content).

adieu.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:20 | 6897813 fudge
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You're in need of advice ...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/251695098/Russia-s-2014-Military-Doctrine

27. The Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to use against it and (or) its allies of nuclear and other weapons of mass destruction, as well as in the case of aggression against the Russian Federation with the use of conventional weapons, when under threat the very existence of the state. The decision to use nuclear weapons is taken President of the Russian Federation.

You might want to take the opportunity to learn how Politics in Russia works, it's nothing like the shit in the US or any where else in the West. Putin can be forced by resolution to follow the words in the the paragraph above to the letter.

Trust me on this, if you don't like Putin you most definitely won't like the man that follows him.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:27 | 6897835 jm
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Thanks for the head's up. By your telling it sounds like a proper shithole.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:30 | 6897846 fudge
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To much Western MSM is your problem ;) you think the rest of the planet will fall into line at the snap of your fingers.

Meet Russia who follows no rules but their own, and bows to no black monkey or jew.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:33 | 6897858 jm
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Now it sounds like a proper racist shithole. Yet again, by your telling of it.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:37 | 6897873 fudge
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Russia knows all about jews [ and their black monkey puppet ] we've had previous experience with the little fuckers ;) It's past time the US got rid of their jew problem before they get hurt.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 03:57 | 6898253 COSMOS
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http://news.yahoo.com/fear-tap-uranium-contaminates-water-west-051019824...

I don't know if I buy that "naturally occurring" stuff. The article makes it sound like its all over the place. If it was from the surrounding region, in that magnitude, there would have been a profitable uranium mine there a long time ago. Hell, this stuff is just floating in with the runoff according to them.

If it is naturally occurring in the hills and eroding down into the valley, for like millions of years, wouldn't the aquifer have already been contaminated a long time ago? If that's the case, then, duh. Should have had that figured out by the first well you drilled. I don't buy the natural.

So, tin foil hat firmly in place, (2-layers), I say - the barrels in the little known unregulated 1950's govt dump sites around the region have finally started rusting through.

There is a small superfund site in my region, around 10 acres, put in in the 50's. Lots and lots of toluene, pcb's, benzene, and other glow in the dark stuff, 100x the stuff they found in Love Canal. Contaminated the aquifer, just under a hundred miles of streams, and a half dozen lakes and ponds. Leaked for a while before it was detected. Containment has failed twice. It will never recover in our grand children's lifetime. 

So the timeline is right. I give a barrel buried in the ground 40 years, more or less, and another 20 or so for the stuff to get to where its going. The flatter it is, the longer it takes.


Wed, 12/09/2015 - 04:18 | 6898270 Automatic Choke
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this is interesting reading....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hormesis

 

especially lookup the cobolt-60 contamination of the apartments in Taiwan.    pretty hard to ignore that "experiment".

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:33 | 6897859 El Vaquero
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Hey, I'd rather get along with you crazy Russian fuckers, but petrodollars 'n oil 'n neocons 'n shit. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 12:00 | 6899670 FrankDrakman
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well, I leave the racial and jewish stuff out, but I agree with you: Putin is the RUSSIAN president, and his job is to protect and preserve Russia's interests, not the West's, not the MSM's, and certainly not Obama's. The US has FOR YEARS reserved the right to INITIATE the use of nuclear weapons. Why should they be able to do it, and Russia not? 

Russia was a great power before the US even existed. And, as I noted a couple of days ago, in the late 1690's, Peter the Great toured the European capitals, trying to find allies in a war against the Ottomans, who had only recently been defeated at Vienna. He noted then, as Putin notes today, that the real enemy of the West is Islam, with its calls for murder of unbelievers. We should be fighting with the Russians against the cancer known as Islam, not trying to provoke them into a war between ourselves. (As happened in 1701 with the War of Spanish Succession; luckily, there were no Muslim terrorists in Europe at the time.) 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:21 | 6898014 McCormick No. 9
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OK, let's compare:

Russians watch Mexican telenovelas dubbed into Russian.

Americans watch Keeping up with the Kardashians.

Russians can buy vodka from vending machines.

Americans can watch porn for free on their smartphones.

Russians live in rickety aprtment buildings made from bricks or precast concrete slabs.

Americans live in rickety faux french chateaus made out of sawdust stuck together with glue and covered with thin layers of plastic, chicken wire, stucco, and fake rock.

Score so far... about even. Minus a point for the Kardashians, and plus one point for vodka from a vending machine, so Russia is ahead by 2.

The Russian leader is Russian.

The American leader is... not American.

The next Russian leader will be a man.

The next American leader wil be a man, no matter who wins.

The Russian leader is a patriot, and wants to protect Russia.

The American leader hates America and wants to destroy her.

The Russian leader appears to be a heterosexual.

The American leader... not so much.

The Russian leader hunts, fishes, practices judo, and does other manly things.

The American leader golfs. The fact that he appears to be a fairly good golfer is not a good thing. Golf takes practice and dedication. There are only 24 hours in the day. Who's minding the store?

Putin calmly tells the truth.

Obama calmly lies, or should I say, robotically repeats lies that have been uploaded to his teleprompter.

Putn's globalist tendencies are checked somewhat by his patriotism.

Obama has no tendencies of his own. He is a mere puppet, who, when not given an order, goes into a null state of mental and ohysical inactivity.

I could go on, but I think you are beginning to get the picture.

 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 02:01 | 6898109 slightlyskeptical
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I don't think anyone has ever accused Obama of being a good golfer.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 04:21 | 6898277 Ghordius
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funny list, with one remarkable sentence: "Putn's globalist tendencies are checked somewhat by his patriotism"

I often wish you all would define what you mean with "globalist" whenever you use that word

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:27 | 6897838 El Vaquero
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And you think that we should nuke the Russian Federation over that?  I have targets 20 miles or less from my house that I *KNOW* will get hit.  Fuck that.  We stuck our dicks into the hornet's nest in the ME, and now that they got stung and have swollen up to the size of a summer sausage, we're sticking them in again. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:22 | 6898019 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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Russia has more OPERATIONAL warheads than the US and all its allies put together. They are also quite a few decades more modern. I wouldn't push the issue too hard.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:32 | 6898039 El Vaquero
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"OPERATIONAL"

 

You think that fucking matters?  We both decommissioned far, far more than was needed to wipe each other out. And we still have for more than is needed to wipe each other out.  The big secret with nukes is that they work, and that cat's out of the bag.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 21:58 | 6902318 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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Many of those are 'just' tactical low-yield.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 06:14 | 6898372 Tall Tom
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now that they got stung and have swollen up to the size of a summer sausage, we're sticking them in again. 

 

Well we can always short Pfizer.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 02:44 | 6898171 Kirk2NCC1701
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The beauty of people thinking that you're 'crazy', is that you get to be 'crazy like a fox'.

Care to poker? Got the Equity to ante up? No? Then you'd better not bluff or Call.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:53 | 6897714 NoPension
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Like Obamamamadingdong?

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:55 | 6897719 jm
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Nobody worships a steaming pile, dude.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:56 | 6897732 Philo Beddoe
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Just yo mamma. 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:58 | 6897739 Otrader
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Jm, how would you deal with the CIA proxy war over there?  Just curious.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:07 | 6897777 NoDecaf
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You're wasting time, it's better to just throw some "yo momma is.." jokes at him.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:11 | 6897784 jm
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This isn't the format for such a serious item and I am not informed withenough facts to answer.

 

 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:17 | 6897798 Philo Beddoe
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Pussy. That is code for you have no answer. Asshole. Join the club. 

How is Capcha workin for you now you little bitch? 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:18 | 6897808 LetThemEatRand
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Point.  Set.  Match.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:30 | 6897843 jm
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Some of us have a job and can't stay up all night discussing cocks and such.

Keep up the productive dialogue.

 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:35 | 6897851 Philo Beddoe
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How much does sucking your own cock pay? 

Yeah, Capcha Queen, your wife already told us that staying UP was not your strong suit. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 03:16 | 6898179 Otrader
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JM, take a look at my long post I put together.  If there is anyting missing/incorrect, please post for all to see. 

The Zionists have been trying to turn the West vs Arabs for decades for 'Graeter Israel'.  Much of the manpower, logistics and funding has come from the USA taxpayers .  To get that, it took decades to build the boogeyman.  Most of the key architects of those wars have always been dual citizen Israelis. 

There is also a great book by ex-mossad officer:

http://www.amazon.com/By-Way-Deception-Making-officer/dp/0971759502  I think there's a second book, but I haven't read it.

Some examples:

On July 22, 1946, Jewish terrorists dressed as Arabs blew up the King David Hotel in Palestine, killing 91 and injuring 45. The perpetrators were Menachem Begin's Irgun extremist group; the same Menachem Begin who went on to win the  Nobel peace prize 32 years later, as Israeli Prime Minister. This false-flag style, in which stage-managed attacks are blamed on an innocent third party for political ends, was to be a cornerstone of Israeli state terrorism and frequently employed over the following decades including the 21st century. It did not always succeed - particularly in the Forties, Fifties and Sixties - in which case Jews ended up having to admit responsibility. However, they never showed any remorse. And in July 2006, Israeli right-wingers including former prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu held a two-day seminar to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the King David bombing.

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In July 1954, American and British interests in Cairo and Alexandria were hit by a series of bombs. These were originally thought to have been placed by militant Moslems. A couple of years prior to the eruption of the "Suez Crisis", negotiations were taking place between Egypt and Britain over control of the Suez Canal, and it was thought that militants were attempting to scupper any compromise by Colonel Nasser. In October 1954, Egypt announced that an Israeli spy ring of thirteen saboteurs had been broken up. The plot was uncovered when incendiary bombs went off prematurely in the pocket of one of the perpetrators, outside a British-owned Alexandria theatre.

There were claims of an "anti-Semitic frame-up". However, the result was humiliation for Israel when it was forced to admit its responsibility for the terrorist attacks. It had been Israel's head of Intelligence, Colonel Benyamin Givli, who had independently ordered the spies to strike. However, his boss, Defense Minister Pinhas Lavon who was oblivious of the operation, ended up having to resign, and the incident was dubbed the "Lavon Affair". Note that phosphorus, used in the 1954 attacks, was later used to sink an Egyptian ferry in 2006 with the loss of around 1,000 lives (q.v. below).

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In June 1967, the state of Israel carried out a sustained air and naval attack on the USS Liberty for over an hour, employing torpedoes, machine guns and napalm rockets. 34 men were killed and more than 170 wounded. According to Israel, the attack was a "tragic accident" due to "misidentification". The ancient Egyptian freighter that Israel claimed to have mistaken the Liberty for was of totally different appearance, and there is ample evidence that they knew full well that their target was an American ship, following two days of reconnaissance by Israeli planes.

In the early stages of the attack, US planes were launched from nearby carriers to assist the Liberty, in response to its SOS. When Washington was notified, US Defense Secretary Robert McNamara ordered these aircraft back to the carriers. At the time of the attack, US President Lyndon Johnson (supposedly representing the US people rather than international racketeers) said, "I don't give a damn if every man drowns and the ship sinks. I don't want to embarrass our allies."

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In April 1986, a bomb exploded in La Belle Discotheque in Berlin. Three were killed including two US soldiers, and over 200 injured. Ten days later, Ronald Reagan gave the order to bomb Libya. Around 37 people were killed including Colonel Gaddafi's adopted baby daughter, and over 200 wounded. This was the result of the Mossad's Operation Trojan - known by their agents as "the old Trojan dick trick" - that conned some countries into believing Libya was actually behind terrorism such as the Berlin disco bombing. It is true that there was a territorial dispute between the US and Libya, following some provocative US naval manoeuvres in the Gulf of Sidra. But Libya was innocent of many of the terrorist crimes it was alleged to have committed.

Shimon Peres had given the order to launch Operation Trojan in February 1986. One of Israel's ships would broadcast misleading pre-recorded digital transmissions that could only be received by a Mossad device planted in Tripoli - the Trojan. The Trojan would retransmit a signal on a frequency known to be used for official Libyan business, ready to be received by the Americans or their allies. The source would appear to be emanating from such location as to appear genuine, and Western intelligence services would find that the Mossad also had confirmation that these series of "terrorist orders" were supposedly being broadcast to various Libyan embassies.

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It is proven beyond the slightest shadow of doubt that Israeli agents had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks, and together with scientific forensic proof of controlled demolitions of WTC1, 2 and 7. The very first people arrested on suspicion of involvement in the 9/11 attacks turned out to be five Israeli Jews: Sivan Kurzberg, Paul Kurzberg (Sivan's brother), Oded Ellner, Yaron Shmuel and Omer Marmari. Their white Urban Moving Systems van was stopped and they were arrested within hours of the attacks, on the afternoon of 9/11/01. Sivan Kurzberg, Ellner and Shmuel had been observed by several eyewitnesses at the rear parking lot of the Doric apartment complex in Union City, New Jersey. They were seen atop the van with cameras, high-fiving, smiling, joking with cries of joy and mockery, hugging each other, and taking photographs and video of the Twin Towers within a few minutes of the first plane impact.

Marc Perelman of New York's Jewish weekly The Forward reported on March 15, 2002 that the FBI had concluded that at least two of the Israelis were agents working for the Mossad, and their employer Urban Moving Systems Incorporated was a suspected intelligence front. On September 14, 2001, Urban's owner Dominick Suter fled the U.S. for Israel. Perelman also tells on video of how he was able to confirm that, according to the FBI, two of the five Israelis were "Mossad agents". Christopher Ketcham says the transcripts of the Carl Cameron report were later removed from the Fox News website following pressure from Abe Foxman of the ADL, and replaced with the rather Orwellian message: "This story no longer exists".

When arrested, the Israelis - dubbed the "High-Fivers" by the FBI - were found to have airline tickets with immediate travel dates for destinations world-wide, and tie-ins to 9/11. Dual US-Israeli citizen Michael Chertoff, who co-authored the USA Patriot Act" and headed the Justice Department's Criminal Division in the aftermath of 9/11, is a prime suspect for pulling strings to get the Israelis released and sent home.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 09:10 | 6898627 Time for Titus
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Great stuff Otrader. 

Did you write these summaries or are they direct quotes from the Osrovsky book?

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:24 | 6897826 jm
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Just being honest.

Not gonna blame the Jews for it, so why bother arguing?

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:35 | 6897863 Philo Beddoe
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How about shutting the fuck up and taking your balsa wood argument out for a stroll during a stiff breeze? 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:44 | 6897903 HopefulCynic
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I never imagined that the name for Balsa Wood was the same in english, good to know thanks. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:23 | 6897823 HopefulCynic
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Then it was all for nothing!

 

Tell the truth! Were you just posting to get a shout out to Capcha?

 

Please keep coming back, I really find reading stupidity very entertaining. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:30 | 6897844 Philo Beddoe
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Please keep coming back, I really find reading stupidity very entertaining. 

You are in luck! There is this guy, Erik Maximus Liarson, that posts around here. He is one of the most pretentious sacs o douche this side of the Missisip. 

Cancel your Netflix and follow this asshole. This guy is entertainment Gold. 

I tell me son...Philo Jr.....if Daddy ever gets hit by a blimp..do the opposite of this assclown. 

OK, Daddy. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:36 | 6897870 HopefulCynic
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He came

He Insulted

He called for Capcha

He said he had no idea (seriously WTF?)

 

It was very idiotic and entertaining, but I was also entertained by the many responses he got. I won!

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:42 | 6897897 Philo Beddoe
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My comment was directed at you,bro. Really, I jsut need a safe zone where I can cry. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:47 | 6897912 HopefulCynic
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I'm here you can go ahead and cry all you want, although i do have to warn you that, I don't like grown men crying, but I can at least tolerate it a little bit. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:52 | 6897937 Philo Beddoe
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ok, pleae excuse my sweaty bitch tits. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:53 | 6897938 Philo Beddoe
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ok, pleae excuse my sweaty bitch tits....again. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:02 | 6897745 Son of Captain Nemo
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jm

Obviously you forgot this little announcement more than a year ago from our Dear President.

Now why would he make such a weird statement like that and "who" would ever be sick enough in the head tothreaten the World to make him say such an outlandish thing?...

Established in 1948 and still the most dangerous little psychopath on the bloc that ever was or will be for giving Vlad no other choice but to make that kind of announcement!!

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:55 | 6897946 cougar_w
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I called the nuke potential as soon as Russia showed up in Syria. Like what, two months ago? Putin is gonna glass ISIS just to yank Turkey's (and NATO's) chain. See if he doesn't.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:26 | 6898008 MsCreant
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We are the only ones who have made our bones doing it. To be a "real" superpower, the police of the world, ya gots ta nuke sumptin'. Nuking yourself does not count...

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:04 | 6897766 tmosley
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Because he, like pagan gods, is awesome.

Not to mention the fact that he smites our enemies with fucking Mjolnir. We can only pray that he smites our direct oppressors with such.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:35 | 6897865 Bring the Gold
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For busting out the the Norse name for Thor's Hammer I give all that I can give. I weep only that I have one vote to give such is the awesomness of that post.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:18 | 6897803 Baby Bladeface
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Sir you throw a tantrum so grand that the women should learn.

This translation completely inadequate and misleads.

Should read as

"Of course, in the fight against terrorists does not need any, hopefully never will need."

In sentence two ideas and in one sentence expressed. Try to make simple and perhaps easen all hysterical.

Idea first:

"Of course, in the fight against terrorists does not need any"

In the fight against terrorists does not need any. Not need any, Carl. Of course.

Idea second:

"hopefully never will need."

Hopefully will never need. Addressing terrorists here? Not addressing, already in first idea addressed and concludes not need any. Not need any for terrorists, Carl. Hopefully will never need and means hopefully will never the need in a war arise. Threat is implied? Is not.

Translation in article lacking adequacy in real.

Glad I could help you with your hysteria, please.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:39 | 6897882 Bring the Gold
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BB, I'm pretty sure that title was what we call "click bait" and it worked. Putin is simply expressing ultimate capabilities of a weapon Russia is showcasing using ISIS as target practice, much like the US did during the Gulf War against Saddam. Russia will sell a lot of weapons systems out of this while protecting it's geopolitical imperatives (Real ones, not the BS in the Grand Chessboard with all it's sick fucking jingoist bullshit) Tartus Naval Base etc. At the same time they get to field test their weapons while simultaneously showing them off to prospective buyers. All well within International law. Three level Vulcan Chess vs Checkers etc. etc.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:42 | 6897891 socalbeach
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That's what I thought also, he wasn't talking about using nukes against terrorists since he already said "naturally ... that is unnecessary".  I had assumed he was talking about hopefully not having to use nuclear weapons against countries like Turkey.

( proper English translation not yet finished: http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/50892 )

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:59 | 6897959 ThroxxOfVron
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IF a nation -such as Turkey- is funding mercenaries/terrorists ( via covert purchases of stolen oil or directly with Turkish government funds ) then Turkey is either effectively a 'rouge state' or a 'state sponsor of international terrorism', then it's leaders -as in the case of Turkey, Erdogan, et.al.- are just enemies of liberty.

I fully endorse the destruction of enemies of liberty whether by Russian nuclear weapons or any other means.

Death to ALL the oppressors, to the criminals, to their cronies and their merc. praetorians, to the religious and ideological supporters, to the finacial sponsors and war bankrolling banksters, to the corporate death merchants, to the dutiful propagandists, and to the power hungry politicians...

Death to the cult of death.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:26 | 6898021 MsCreant
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While I want to cheer you on, and in a rash moment I am capable of it, there is little problem with that...

"Death to our planet" is the consquence of going too far with this logic.

Radiation therapy for cancer is a last resort. Sometimes it is needed, but damn, the damage it does elsewhere that is not intended is a bitch. 

If you use a nuke you must ask, "Can we survive the worst case?" and "Is the worst case worth what we are fighting for?"

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:44 | 6898067 ThroxxOfVron
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Obviously the use of nuclear weapons should not be the first and only choice for concluding a confrontation.

The argument FOR the use of nuclear weapons against Japan was/is either sound and honorable or it is a inane and despicable.

Either nuclear weapons have utility or they do not.

..& it is well beyond obvious that deterence is not a utility of nuclear weapons.

Choose: it IS either just and honorable to USE nuclear weapons to deter and end conflict or it IS NOT.

If it IS: then USE them.

IF it IS NOT: then decommission and cease all such production of weapons and weapons grade fuels..

PERIOD.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:47 | 6898076 matermaker
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This is so stupid....     people still think in 1950's terms.       Russia defaults on its debt.      less than 24 hours later, American EBT and Debit cards quit working.     Nukes won't be used because they don't NEED to be.   all you bitches are wired into the matrix.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 08:40 | 6898545 RiverRoad
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Killed by radiation; killed by ISIS.....ya takes yur chances.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:59 | 6898080 socalbeach
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Scratch that. Ambiguous.

https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/kremlin.ru/events/president/news...

"Of course, in the fight against terrorists does not need any, hopefully never will need."

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 05:23 | 6898330 Global Observer
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Hopefully will never need and means hopefully will never the need in a war arise.

Glad someone else too caught that. He is hoping it will not be needed to be used against another, but not terrorists, against who he knows it is not needed.

Threat is implied? Is not.

It is, but not against IS, only against someone who they may need to engage in a nuclear war. Wonder who that might be?

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 08:56 | 6898579 Bangin7GramRocks
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He's got great titties!

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 09:46 | 6898777 J Jason Djfmam
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I think the message was: "We have subs, they fire nukes that can fly, under your radar, at 3 times the speed of sound, range 2300 km."

Take this message anyway you like.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 08:08 | 6898491 de3de8
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That would at least bring it all to a quick close

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:02 | 6897755 tmosley
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And yet you find nigger dicks to suck everywhere you turn. How odd.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 02:07 | 6898121 Ides of November
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It's called deterrence you moron.

The Deterrent worked so well during the Cold War we never came to military/ nuclear conflict. If one side thinks they can fight the other side without a big response - ie a nuclear response - they will do it.

If the West thinks it can get away with pushing the Russians out of Syria without a nuclear war resulting they are fools. Fools of the highest order.

Thank God for the Russians reminding them - AGAIN - that if that is what they try to do they will fry.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 04:22 | 6898275 charlie303
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I unfortuneately can see a scenario where nuclear weapons may be necessary.

I see extremist Islam akin to the Japanese during WWII who believed their campaign

was righteous and their emperor divine. We don't want endless battles like Iwo Jima.

Tactical nuclear strikes, with enough warning to minimize civilian casualties, against the Holy sites of Mecca and Medina

may persuade even the the most silent of moderate muslims that Islam needs to reform.

Why else would the will of Allah allow the destruction of their most Holy sites if Islam had not failed?

This would have to be part of a wider set of strategies, the disbandment of the CIA for example,

that may lead to stability and security in the region and lasting peace.

I am open to your claim that this is indeed madness, it is a dangerous path, but I feel existing conventional

approaches and power structures just won't work.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 09:22 | 6898676 drivenZ
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The Japanese were a relatively isolated country though, physically and ideologically. We could have wiped them off the map(including Tojo and the rest of the leaders) which was the deterrent.  Nuking ISIS in Raqqa or something does almost literally nothing. Since 1. they're all over Syria and in other countries and 2. they wouldn't care. 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 08:37 | 6898539 Jimmy Twinkle
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the range of these missiles fail to reach langley virginia so its not entirely a positive story.

 

dick

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:35 | 6897864 drendebe10
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Use it on the fudgepacker and all the elected career politician turds please.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:31 | 6898036 PersonalRespons...
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They already did.

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:36 | 6898046 PersonalRespons...
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Get to work ZH and look at some of the CCD sensor distortions from some of the close filming. fuck 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:46 | 6898068 PersonalRespons...
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Check out 1:55 in.  Unless it's faked, it's gamma or alpha, or whatever waves smashing the CCD.  Drop a camera into a Fukushima reactor blown core, same thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWveLHVG7mo  I'm not an expert but seems like fairly straight forward science.

 

Happens at 27 seconds in as well.  barf

 

 

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 01:51 | 6898086 PersonalRespons...
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If not faked, fuck. :(

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 02:56 | 6898125 PersonalRespons...
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boo

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 06:33 | 6898386 Tall Tom
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MISINFORMATION.

 

The video is of a Nuke Strike against Yemen by Saudi Arabia back in May.

 

See here...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfOjy-ij4S0

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 03:01 | 6898191 PersonalRespons...
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-love-

 

Thanks for fixing the mess.  

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 02:16 | 6898142 Caught_Fish
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Putins words indicate the capacity is there, the question is, are the warheads?

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 08:14 | 6898498 RiverRoad
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And into which countries will the fallout blow?  What are the prevailing winds over there?

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 08:27 | 6898524 RiverRoad
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If Putin's gyroscope is off a quarter of an inch he could accidentally nuke Mecca....big oops.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:37 | 6897655 Meat Hammer
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I mean...if you can be that accurate and ONLY hit Langley, then by all means, nuke away!

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:48 | 6897695 The Juggernaut
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Who suffered the most for 9/11?  For sure not DC.  They knew about it!

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:41 | 6897894 Bring the Gold
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The direct victims, their friends and family, the Constitution and Bill of Rights, Habeus Corpus and the citizens of this once great nation. It wasn't perfect, but god damn if pre-2001 USA doesn't look like a fucking slice of heaven by comparison.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:37 | 6897658 JenkinsLane
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Bloody hell

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:37 | 6897659 Bindar Dundat
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Hope is not much of a strategy...but I like his thinking.

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:44 | 6897680 Philo Beddoe
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Worked for Doug Flutie. 

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:39 | 6897664 Mr.Sono
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That's what I call flexing muscle. In couple days we should know, what will happen to Erdogans convoy to Iraq

Tue, 12/08/2015 - 23:55 | 6897720 NoPension
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But can he ban a Muslim?

Wed, 12/09/2015 - 00:16 | 6897796 Nassim
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The Iranians are saying that the Russians badly injured al-Baghdadi - leader of ISIS - and that the CIA has evacuated him to Libya so that he may receive better medical treatment

EXCLUSIVE: ISIL Leader Moves to Libya

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940917001359

A few more months of this and there will be no more ISIS and lots of dead or injured CIA assets.

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