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Putin Hopes "There Will Be No Need To Nuke" The Islamic State
Earlier today, in a clear advance notice to the French and US navies which are both set to arrive just off the coast of Syria in the coming weeks, Russia for the first time targeted Islamic State targets in Syria with Kalibr land-attack cruise missiles launched from a submarine in the Mediterranean Sea off the Syrian coastline, according to Russia’s Defense Minister.
According to RT, the 3M-54 Kalibr missiles were launched from the Kilo-class diesel-electric submarine “Rostov-on-Don”, Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu told President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday.
While as reported here before, Russian warships based in the Caspian and Mediterranean seas had launched similar missiles targeting ISIS positions in late November, this was the first time that Russia has targeted IS in Syria from a submarine.
The submarine cruise missile launch and subsequent strikes are shown in the clip below:
According to a Kremlin transcript of the conversation, Shoigu told Putin that the missiles successfully targeted two major terrorist positions in the territory of Raqqa, adding that “we can say with absolute confidence that significant damage has been inflicted upon ammunition warehouses and a mine production plant, as well as the oil infrastructure."
In addition to the submarine, a Russian Ministry of Defense source revealed that the Rostov-on-Don, equipped with modern Russian Kalibr cruise missiles, had appeared near the Syrian coast. Additionally, just before the USS Harry S. Truman carrier arrives, the Russian cruiser Varyag, which is currently off India’s coast for Exercise Indra till Dec. 12, will set sail for the Mediterranean to replace the cruiser Moskva.
However, what was most notable in today's update by the Russian defense ministry was neither the news about the sub, or the second ship deployment, but what Putin told Shoigu during their conversation according to the Kremlin's transcript. Which is as follows:
Regarding the submarine strikes we must, of course, analyze everything that happens on the battlefield, how the weapons acts. Both the "Kalibrs" and the X-101 rockets as a whole proved to be very good. This new, modern, highly efficient, and highly precise weapon can be equipped with both a conventional warhead as well as a special, nuclear warhead. Naturally, in the fight against terrorism that is unnecessary, and I hope there will be no need [to use nukes against the Islamic State].
But, if it is.... which of course was the unsaid message: Russia not only can deploy tactical nuclear warheads to Syria overnight, but it may, "not now", but eventually be forced to use them against "the Islamic State."
And just like that Putin hinted that the Syrian proxy war, as it escalates ever wider and drags in increasingly more countries in true "world war" fashion, may just have one or more mushroom clouds in its near future; clouds which will will target none other than the CIA's pet project designed to take down Assad - the Islamic State. We are not sure if this particular cloud will have a silver lining, but we are confident that not even Turkey will want to buy ISIS oil if it happens to have the same radioactivity profile as Fukushima.
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I saw it for the first time when I was too young to really get it. Watched it again 10 years later and multiple times since and I thoroughly agree with you. Funny though how Finch died while doing a promotional tour for Network. Things that make you say "hmmmm".
Here's the thing, and it's a huge flaw in the russia-iranian-syrian (ris) alliance: ris are essentially putting their hand in the trap, and while the trap springs, the trapper is far away from the fray. That's the say, usa has little to no physical stake/risk in the game. While russia, iran, and syria have a lot of manpower involved, usa has less than 100. saudi arabia has practically no risk. saudi arabia and usa are basically the crux of the entire operation of terorrism, and yet they are basically running around. in chess, this is like they are behing a wall of pawns (turkey, isis) while wreaking havoc on the board. meanwhile, ris has exposed their king and queen to attack. this is not good.
also, while noteworthy that russia has taken action, ris action seems mostly reactionary. they are reacting to isis. they are not taking the lead role and dictating events. they have to start making nato react to their movements. until ris take control of the events and start to destabilize saudi arabia and usa, they can't get the upper hand.
You didn't hear me... There are now almost 8 billion mouths to feed. There were 2 billion in 1940. What would be the fucking pay off in conquering any new land? like in chess. we could kill off three quarters of the world population and only be back to 75 years ago. nobody seems to get it......
"USA has less than 100" - where do you get your info? MSM and .gov press releases?
I guarantee that the USA has several 1000 people in State, Defence, CIA, NSA monitoring and analysing every move of every player on both teams then relaying instructions to their team.
all this commentary. The simple issue is will the Turks fight or run? The resulting possible/likely alternative scenarios are not numerous. They are outnumbered by 4 to 1; but have the home field advantage. Yet which force of men will fight with determination, without release? That is the question. The psycho/political jabber and jockeying is a lead up just like we see before the big boxing match. But who really has the stamina or the knockout punch? Isis is not the key, Assad stay or go is the key. Until that is resolved by force or by diplomacy (someone has to give-in) the rhetoric and stakes will grow higher and higher, riskier and riskier for all of us.
again... i reiterate.... 2 million people versus 8 million people, in 75 years. anyone in the dessert would quickly die as food and water supplies would cease. people in new york wouldn't be able to 'live' without such a ration of sugar and caffeine for one... not to mention fuel would be rationed. there would be no need for massive armies of soldiers because massive cities all over the planet would instantly implode as soon as the global supply chain broke down and the internet, which relies on global cooporation, broke down. people under 30 wouldn't even know how to find their way to a place because they've never used a map and not gps in their entire life.
There is zero need for any nuclear weapons because any player can pull the rug out from underneath the current global fiat system and it will INSTANTLY participate mad max thunderdome shit. total chaos. of which? none of the current leaders will make out better than local warlords... so, they are reluctant to do so.
Sarge, why do we need to use these maps, compasses, and ranger counting beads? All we have to do is turn on this Garmin device.
What if the Chicoms take out our satellites? You have just been promoted to officer territory, recruit!
http://www.wired.com/2015/12/bitcoins-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-is-probab...
Hours later...
Exclusive: Australian police raid Sydney home of reported bitcoin creatorhttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-bitcoin-exclusive-idUSKBN0TS...
Australian Federal Police raided the Sydney home on Wednesday of a man named by Wired magazine as the probable creator of cryptocurrency bitcoin, a Reuters witness said.
The property is registered under the Australian electoral role to Craig Steven Wright, whom Wired outed as the likely real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonymous figure that first released bitcoin's code in 2009.
More than a dozen federal police officers entered the house, on Sydney's north shore, on Wednesday after locksmiths broke open the door. When asked what they were doing, one officer told a Reuters reporter that they were "clearing the house".
And the real reason for the Australian Federal Police raid on Craig Wright's home in Sydney looks to be the Aus.gov determination to kill bitcoin:
Reuters: "The treatment of bitcoin for tax purposes in Australia has been the subject of considerable debate. The ATO ruled in December 2014 that cryptocurrency should be considered an asset, rather than a currency, for capital gains tax purposes.
Australia's major banks announced in September they were closing accounts of bitcoin companies, forcing at least 13 digital currency providers out of business in response to tougher rules on money laundering and terrorism financing."
It looks like Wright has now moved to the UK.
Vlad I think I am falling in love with you !
PLEASE nuke all the islamic cult-worshiping vermin in the entire region - PLEASE !!!
what i think many of you guys fail to ponder? Vlad reads this shit. or one of his lackeys does. so does obama. EVERYONE reads zerohedge. and half of them comment anonymously. I see zerohedge being quoted all over the place. maybe, vlad and obama do, themselves. we're sure the likes of ron paul, peter schiff, max keiser, janet yellen, ben bernake or paul krugman sure as fuck reads this shit.
WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE... just nobody has the balls to pull the plug on the easy rider.
And all of us are on somebody's file. If 'half of them' comment anonymously then they can become 'extortable' if you find out who they are.
You are probably right.
But, if they are so hard-up they want to come after ZH people for just venting off at the insanity, then we have entered the Twilight Zone, so they should come prepared to get shot, knifed, or hit with brass knuckles.
Bath House does not read ZH, or he would have resigned by now.
Nuke them for the fun of it. A warm welcome from all of us 'infidels' to the Wahhabi, seasons greetings.
Saudi Arabian oil fields would be a nice target....
+1
There's nothing quite like neutralising one of the roots of the problem.
Remember the olf EF Hutton commercials? When Putin whispers 'nuke' everybody listens.
This is the exact same thing as "all options are on the table" only with less subtlety. Not that Vlad and the Ruskies lack the ability for subtlety. Rather the unibrowed goat fuckers lack the ability to read between lines. I'm not a Vlad leg humper but his message is clear, even to a Daesh.
Haha, Russians will use a hammer to kill a fly.
That's what I like about them.
Hey Vlad!
Let us get our swinging dicks and wet pussies out of there first...AND NUKE THE ENTIRE REGION....GO AHEAD BUDDY...
I wonder if Otis set the coordinates on the X-101s.
A logical statement. Thanks Putin. Western media will chop up your video to make you say the opposite.
Keep it safe, NATO and Washington DC conspirators will be caught at our end. Give us ample time. These pigs are very scared. It will expand to a further network overseas. Bad people.
Hey, big guy. Are you going to round up the DC thugs?
That's a clear message to the cabal - if US military continues targeting Syrian assets, it will become ugly. There is much more going on behind the scene. We are sadly much closer to a doomsday scenario than it looks - Putin does not had to give orders to prepare Russia's Doomsday plane some days ago if there is not a serious threat!
Good, it’s about time the beltway crowd and the limp wrists who call themselves .mil had some skin in the game instead of bombing and intimidating everyone all over the planet for their mega wealthy overlords with impunity.
It wasn’t peaceful protests that shut down the Viet Nam war. It was when the admirals and generals looked out their Pentagon office windows and saw a sea of pissed off hippies burning draft cards in the parking lot waiting for cocktail hour. …. Suddenly shit got personal for all parties concerned.
~ DC
As I have speculated before.
Two tactical nuclear missile along the the Oil Convoy from ISIS to Turkey would end the Convoy immediately and permanently. Whilst a conventional missile may take out a few oil road tankers a battlefield nuke would destroy a whole lot more in an instant and scare the shit out of all for the future.
The other thing that I am waiting for is the suggestion from Russia that it might 'lend' Iran some battlefield nukes to 'defend itself' against ISIS.. Now THAT would change the entire game in the ME and America's current game.
Respect your post. However, this is currency war. What has been planned and what is organized to redevelop a emerging currency to commerce.
End this fast. Not lookin' forward to a 100 years war here.
Putin to ISIS terrorist gangsters:
"get the hell out of Syria or become radioactive toast."
What a piece of shit. Putin engaged willingly in this war, which is very far from Russia's borders, and now is implying he could even use nukes that would kill so man helpless people who have no power in preventing their areas being controlled by ISIS? Putin is really just as bad as Obummy, with both Russian and US empires striving to protect their interests and playing shooting games in the middle east.
Putin was only taking action after he was asked by the current official Syria government.
USA government don't likes that very much, but who cares about that shit group of zombies.
Are you such a zombie also?
How is that relevant to his post? It's not like being asked to means Putin absolutely had to go bomb the Arabs. Now he's realizing that Assad's forces are a piece of shit and the Iranian proxies don't have the punch to achieve a military victory. Putin's going to have to compromise preeeettty hard here with the NATO proxy masters if he wants to stop wasting money and save face. Unless, of course, perpetual war and wasting millions per day propping up the Russian MIC is the goal here.
Before mouthing ignorance, look SAA vs terrorist kill ratio
Cry me a river.
Russia has been hit with terrists of the Daesh type before.
Assad invited him in, plus there is Russian-Syrian long-term loyalty to consider.
No, Vlad goes where lesser men fear to go.
Lord, I hope you aren't a South Carolinian.
I know you're not used to seeing leaders who actually take the side of their own people against their enemies, but this is what one looks like. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is not above taking the war to the enemy and winning.
Not the first time Russians had to do the heavy lifting in a war started when a Frankenstein's monster built by the west got out of control. I doubt they'll get much of the credit this time either.
Obama was not asked to get involved in Syria Putin was fact. The US policy of toppling ME Dictators working out as the worst policy ever in the ME.....Leave them in charge or caos rises
Putin has the moral high ground here and he should consider nukes to wipe out the threat for good
Either we have International Law or we do not.
Either we enforce US Law or we do not.
What we have is anarcho-imperialism, a term I just invented.
This is the result of a major power joining a co-op, the UN, in order to keep the world more or less at peace. It is disrupted when a major power decides it alone has the right to intervene in another nation's affairs.
Now, to be real, this kind of stuff has gone on forever, but we live in an electronic age of communications.
You can't play the old OSS/MI-6 game anymore. We are on to it. No more Mosadeghs, or staged color revolutions.
Like Assad or not, he is the legally elected President of Syria.
The answer is anarcho-nationalism: each country abides by International Law and is responsible for itself and nothing else (see US Constitution).
Vlad should consider secretly using a tactical nuke to wipe out the illegal oil scheme at one stroke, along with Daesh. Then there will be no Long War. The Atlanticist navies can go home and claim Daesh is defeated. Assad can stand for re-election, which he will probably win with 60% of the vote, and pursue a secular, pluralist society, which he had before the Atlanticists decided he should join their cartel in The City.
Maybe Vlad should just drop a tactical nuke on The City and solve most of our problems....haha.
who the fuck is daesh? is it isil, or isis, and what is the fucking meaning of is , is?? seems a nuke will solve it all.
Well said lakecity, excellent comments.
Seems to me that the days of imperiums ruling the world by threats, coercion and force must come to an end.
The world will be safer with a multi-polar arrangement. That is what Russia and China both want - and the BRICS and others - only the Anglo-American empire and its "five-eyes" puppy-dogs reject it. This would allow national cultures to remain and for them to adapt/adopt at their own will and in their own time.
Given the technological advancements that America has historically brought to mankind, it's quite likely that much of the world would adapt accordingly of their own free will.
The only problem remaining is how to deal with the political psychopaths.
The UN is a joke. If they were seriously interested in helping the world's downtrodden they would relocate to Yemen instead of buying their penthouses in NYC and partying their heads off there.
He was sending a very clear message.And it was not to ISIS.
"Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?"
"That's it, Munchkins, but say it with more conviction."
"Ah, nuts, Reggie. This stinks. Who is this Shakespeare guy anyway? Does he work for Spielberg?"
nuke them till they glow and shoot them in the dark Vlad.
one of the major Zionist mantras vis a vis Islam is that "we love life whilst they love death".
Kinda ironic given that the neocons seem determined to bring about a global nuclear holocaust.
May I suggest Mecca and Medina to be on your shortlist of targets?
YES ........AND in season please........i've always wanted to see a tent city vaporized ...........
Extremely accurate bombing - Russia could blow your arm off and leave the rest of you intact !!!
There's always a lot of propaganda about missile and bomb accuracy, so I cannot verify this. But last week, RT.com reported that Russian missiles being used in Syria are accurate enough to hit a football.
Could they blow my ex-wife off of my checkbook and leave my account intact?
Drop several on Saudi Arabia and Turkey en passant.
Low yield nuke would probably give off less radiation than Fuck ishima meltdown, made much easier by GE's poor design. I say go for it and fry a couple hundred thousand of those murdering bastards, then let God sort them out. I don't want that muslim, blow up shit, rage in my community.
Yemeni troops doing well again, also look for the article there with 14 Blackstone terrorist killed : http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940918000684
Enjoy Bitchez !
Its pathetic to watch how some of you guys are foaming in the mouth over the idea of the region being nuked... Grudge filled little brats
Guess what? If Sherman had had nukes, most of the South would still be glowing in the dark. If Rhodesia had pulled half the stuff Saudi has, nothing would remain of Salisbury but a highly-radioactive crater. All's fair when it's only white people who don't appreciate being fucked around who are likely to get killed. Serves those crackers right, nawmsayin?
Why do our betters only get squeamish when the enemy really are savages centuries overdue for culling from the gene pool?
I'll tell you. The savages are too stupid to stage a successful slave revolt. We're the threat to our masters' rule, not hajji.
Sun worshipper?
Does the U.S. Constitution even approve nukes? LOL
Trump has to overthrow Obama!!
‘tis the season for a Coup d'état!!
who-ho-ho-a!!! shit just got seriously REAL!!!
Good muslims are dead muslims. It doesn't matter how it happens.
Yeah, even they agree with that.
DEFCON 5 Green
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv1q0SKgxRw
Where's the neutron bomb when you need it?
I say do it. We did it to Japan.
Good luck living in nuclear wasteland you freak
it will be a lot more interesting when the Donald and Putin sit down to decide how the world is gonna be carved up than it is watching Putin giggle through his meetings with the Jug Eared Muslim...btw which one's gonna tell China those no piece of the blue ball for them.............OH well ...they can still make their Wal-Mart crap
You guys are nuts!
Just like pulling a band-aid, do it quick, and get it over with.These people will never change (and neither will we)If it is me or them, I would rather it be them. Enjoy your virgins, desert dwellers, and hopefully they dont all look like Tashfeen...
Nuke where?
Syria? Thats where most of those ISIS idiots are.
Iraq? Yea some ISIS there but not the whole country.
Turkey? Please. Anybody that says Russia will nuke Turkey is beyond a moron.
The only real option to use nukes against ISIS is in Syria. But correct me if I'm wrong, Russia is now eyeball deep in Syria and so they're now going to nuke themselves?
Fucking stupid the whole thing...
What? Is there some fear that it might create a glut in the vitrified sand market? T.E. Lawrence concluded nearly a century ago that the Arabs, particularly the Syrians, were, and will always be, nothing more than tribal savages and were not worth any more efforts to save them from themselves.
Nothing has changed nor will it until someone, be it Putin or Trump effectively reduces their numbers to zero. If it takes a few well targeted nukes to do it, so what? If that also sends the message to the rest of the Muslim savages that the civilized world has had enough of their shiting on everything and everyone, all the better. Nuke ISIS and tell the Saudis and the Iranians their next.
Yeah I know there will be a bunch of pussies who will cry and moan about the so-called collateral damage. But what will those numbers be compared to allowing their global enterprise of murder continue unabaited?
By the end of WWII Japan had devolved into a massive suicidal death cult, driven by the same "We love death more than you love life" philosophy that has been the hallmark of Islamic agression for over 1400 years. It took two nukes to finally stop them. I'm afraid it has reached the point that it is naive to think it will take anything less to stop the Islamist supremisists. They have chosen death. I say we give it to them a thousand fold for what they inflict on others.
You cannot reason with a savage anymore than you can reason with a grizzly bear that is determined to kill and eat you. You must kill it or it will kill you.
Oh and Attorney General Lynch, you can go fuck yourself.
The whole world will welcome nuke strikes on ISIS in Syria
(except of course the king of homos- The Obomination)