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US Denies Bombing Assad's Forces, Blames Russia
On Sunday, someone bombed an SAA position in eastern Syria killing three of Assad’s soldiers and wounding more than a dozen.
As we reported on Monday, the strike allegedly took place in Paris mastermind Abdelhamid Abaaoud’s old fiefdom of Deir ez Zor. “Syria strongly condemns the act of aggression by the US-led coalition that contradicts the UN Charter on goals and principles,” Damascus said. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs sent letters to the UN Secretary General and the UN Security Council, stating that the strike “hampers efforts to combat terrorism and proves once again that this coalition lacks seriousness and credibility.” Washington claims to have no idea what Damascus is talking about. “We’ve seen those Syrian reports but we did not conduct any strikes in that part of Deir ez Zor yesterday. So we see no evidence,” coalition spokesman Colonel Steve Warren said.
Presumably the “evidence” is the three dead soldiers and on Tuesday, the war of words intensified. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group (or, as it’s more commonly known, “one guy in London”) said the jets were likely coalition aircraft. The US, on the other hand, now says it is “certain” that the Russians are to blame.
“A U.S. military official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the United States is certain that Russia was responsible for the deadly strike on the Syrian army camp,” Reuters reports, adding that “the official flatly dismissed claims that U.S.-led coalition jets were responsible.”
"Reports of coalition involvement are false,” Obama’s envoy to the coalition insists.
The aforementioned Steve Warren admitted that the US did indeed carry out at least four strikes in Deir ez Zor on Sunday but claims that they were all “against well heads.” Furthermore, Warren said, the coalition was operating “approximately 55 kilometers (35 miles) southeast of Ayyash [and struck] no vehicles or personnel targets.”
“We have no indication any Syrian soldiers were near our strikes," he concluded.
Still another US official told Reuters that Washington is “aware that Russia conducted long-range bomber strikes into Syria (on Sunday)." Apparently, official line will be that a Russian TU-22 bomber is responsible.
To be sure, the more planes there are in the skies above Syria, the bigger the potential for “accidents” to occur. We’ll be the first to admit that.
That said, obviously Moscow wouldn’t be bombing a Syrian army position on purpose which means Washington wants you to believe this was an example of the SAA accidentally taking some friendly fire. But Syria’s foreign ministry says nine missiles were fired at the camp, suggesting that this wasn’t simply an errant bomb. Surely Russia is in close communication with Assad’s ground forces. After all, that’s the whole arrangement: Russia provides air cover for Syrian and Iranian soldiers who will do most of the fighting on the ground. It would be a rather egregious logistical failure if Russian bombers didn’t know where their ground forces are operating and it would be all but inexplicable for Moscow's warplanes to shoot nine missiles directly at an SAA encampment.
In any event, we’ll likely never know the truth, but it’s certainly interesting that Assad’s forces are being killed in mysterious airstrikes near ISIS oil fields.
Additionally, it’s worth noting that the US doesn’t have the best track record lately when it comes to hitting the “right” targets. Perhaps this, like the incident in Kunduz that resulted in the massacre of dozens of MSF hospital employees, is but another example of AC-130 pilots “relying on a physical description of the target” after a “system malfunction.”
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As if the Nobel Prize Winner has any credibility left.
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has published an article demonstrating that the US government and President Barack Obama knowingly lied when they claimed that the Syrian government had carried out a sarin gas attack on insurgent-held areas last August.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/12/10/pers-d10.html
ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html
Right on. Whoever believes anything coming out of these scum is a brainwashed idiot and deserves a camp.
If there was a big red cross on the top of the building I know who did it.
pods
Well it seems to me that if the US , British, French, Turkish, Getman , Israeli (and whoever the fuck else feel like breaking international law) Jets were not flying illegally in Syrian airspace it would be a lot easier to keep track of what the hell is going on.
IS THERE NO RULE OF LAW ?
You cannot believe a single fucking thing the Americans say can you...
Please call it Washington, Many of US Americans do not want to be involved and many want us to support Assad. Simply because Assad doesn't crucify Christians and behead people like the Saudis do.
Nuff said.
In future, when I refer to Americans you'll know I mean Washington...
and it's 1%.
and its MSM.
So obvious that the US is trying to bring Russia into direct combat with NATO and away from the evil terrorists. Putin is too smart for such infantile foreign policy moves. Obama and the "anonymous" military spokesperson are one in the same because it's all a bunch of lies. Doesn't matter who says it, a lie is a lie meant to coverup motive. There is no clearer indication of the US losing its financial grip on the ME and the USD in global trade than actions like these.
And these are the same ass-hats that have no information of the ISIL stolen oil going to Turkey.
Washington DC has absolutely NO credibility anymore.
Listening to the various agency spokes-pie holes sickens me.
And don’t get me started on no MH-17 telemetry or satellite imagery from an evil empire that can read 72 point type from a satellite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAgp5gkV-K4
This is a great video released by Russia. It shows oil crossing into Turkey and at the end it shows a US drone wathcing as well.
But Washington says "we do not see this"
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Just like we didn't bomb Doctors Without Borders right? Or did people already forget that happened? Obama needs to get his house in order. Obviously the Military Industrial Complex is telling Obama to say one thing while doing another. I feel more and more every day that we are on the wrong side of this coming world war.
You have to give a little bit of credit to the Counter-Intelligence agents. They are now mimicking those in (what I call) the Truth movement.
Truth movement: accuse Turkey of buying ISIS oil
Counter Intelligence Agents: accuse Russia of buying ISIS oil
Truth movement: accuse America of bombing Assad
Counter Intelligence Agents: accuse Russia of bombing Assad
Truth movement: Use quotes from Goebbels, Goring to illustrate (American) propaganda objectives (and similarities to Nazis)
Counter Intelligence Agents: Use quotes by Nazi propagandists to make their counterpoints, as well!
Truth movement: Blames Israel, Zionism, dual citizens for American foreign policy 'errors'
Counter Intelligence Agents: Blame Muslims, or just broadly, Islam for American foreign policy.
You can see they have given up trying to convince anyone in the Truth Movement, but what they are trying to do is tell the less informed people what they want to hear, and muddy the waters. And then they say "Oh, so you trust Putin over the NYT? Over the Washington Post? Over a newspaper of record? Over an anonymous spokesman?" Which is of course a logical fallacy, appeal to authority.
So look for Counter Intel to now accuse the Truth movement of logical fallacies!
I agree froze25. I've been consciously trying to use the term "Washington DC" rather than "America" or "the US" for the last year or so because it really is Washington DC pulling off all this crap. The rest of us are just forced to pay for their insanity.
Call it Fashington?
" isis is contained " Barry said.
I was under the impression that the S 300 batteries were introduced to prevent this sort of uninvited guest bombing. Its time to clear Syrian airspace and keep it that way. No invitation from Damascus? Watch your 6.
manofthenorth...yes indeed, Canada's new P.M "baby doc Turdeau" (neo con lite with misdirection) is claimed to be pulling CDN jets out of the Mid East as it is too early in the new mandate for being called a war criminal on top of the economic traitor he is with his TPP approval and public use of BoC total aversion.
Who is the only person/legal entity who can override the decisions of the Bank of Canada? It ain't the Prime Minister! Its 'the Crown', which people then think means the Queen, but its actually a distinct 'City of London' legal entity.
Tells you everything, really.
Like the boy who cried wolf, nobody's believing a word Obama or his administration says any more (the MSM doesn't count- they're paid propogandists). Even if the administration was telling the absolute truth, how could you tell any more? Much easier to believe Putin. Man's done everything he said he would and ultimately been proven right on numerous questionable issues.
Obama's recent press conferences have been more disgusting than usual, he doesn't even try to hide the smirk that indicates every word out of his cockcozy is a bald-faced lie.
According to Washington, the blast from sarin-carrying bombs sent hundreds of newborn babies flying out of their incubators and into the streets.
but, but, but, if we don't we're {gasp!} racists! (note: I despise most of gop as well, just amazed by bho ]& hrc] kool-aid drinkers capacity to overlook in name of brand loyalty)
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights has been exposed as a new Monty Python sketch. Which, by the way, makes it MOAR believable.
I can hear "the one guy in London" now, shouting to his Mum from the basement, "Mommy, did the News on TV say anything about - what was it now - SYRIA ?
Given the Russians have a track record in Syria of being not only deadly accurate, but deadly effective, given they have good equipment, and are co ordinating directly with the armed forces which isis ( inter alia ) are trying to destroy, it makes perfect sense that Russia did this.
*Shits pants*
*Twice*
*Blames neighbor*
>Putin is right
>Obama is right
The US admitted it conducted the strike but denied there were any Syrian personnel on the ground in the area? What a crock of shit that is.
What would be surprising is if the US government actually told the truth about anything. As it stands all you need to do is look at the US spokesman and if his lips are moving it is 100% certain he is lying.
Right on!
Even Bush had more credebility than Obama has.
It's not even a question anymore as to who bombed what. When I saw the title, I was like: America did it.
No, both Bush and Obama have the same level of credibility. Congress helped Bush out by approving his military action in Iraq. They denied this to Obama when he wanted to attack Syria. The Pentagon, CIA, and whoever is charge of them don't take no for an answer, so the they tried the next best thing, proxy forces and covert action. What Bush did and what Obama is doing are one in the same, lying to get what the overlords tell them we must have, and casually brushing off the death and destruction left in their wake.
At least Bush was a funny dumbass...
http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Dubya/images/bush_goggles_caps_on_300.jpg
Yes they lied then and now. The lies are now made to be obvious and the blaming of Russia is meant to be an insult to Putin. It serves to show their contempt and lack of fear to those aligned with him. Unless protected from air attacks Hezbollah will go home or be decimated.
For a week now we have had to suffer the new Putin fans claims that Russia had established a no-fly zone, that all flights had to be preapproved by Russia, that Putin had drawn a red line (Yet Another!!). We even had articles how Putin's jets and now the S400 had a grip over a wide region that extended outside Syria. Any jet that did not comply would be shot down. We even had to listen to them repost claims that Syria has the S300 system, those claims that have been proven to be false and even denied by Russia. Turkey, who recently shot down a Russian jet in Syria and boasted about it, has moved some troops into Syria - and Putin is too afraid to even attack Turkey in Syria.
Now we know it is all false. They flew jets in and directly bombed, not just Syrian/Hezbollah/Iranian troops, but one of their established bases. And what from the Russians - NOTHING!! The attacks involved repeat attacks by the jets, and no S400 fired no Russian confrontation no protection of any kind by Russia.
You can feel the tide and the momentum turning on Putin. It is Putin's own fault for being a coward and not declaring (as per international law) a no-fly zone in behalf of Syria when he started the bombing. But then Putin probably just being a vulture and trying to rip western piece of Syria for himself just before it dies. (He sure waited until the end to begin any actions.)
This war is not ending, it is just starting.
When fighting the strategy must include leaving an opening for the enemy to draw them in to your defense.
Russia thinks very strategically.
A russian friend of mine told me that Russia will draw back a bit, then pounce.
Be patient. I know the evil of the US is hard to watch but it will be checked.
You know who else is waiting for this big pounce? Iraq (remember Iraq1 ad Iraq2), Serbia, Libya, EUke, Yemen, the Syrian people who are not alrady dead or relocated to other countries and others. It's really working for those people.
I guess Russia's plan is to draw NATO all the way in to Russia's borders and to have missiles and quick strike nukes positioned there. To be shut out of the strait by Turkey and exiled from business other than oil, gas and arms.
Yes, because Russia today == Russia of the past.
You do realize Russia is pounding the shit out of US/Turkish/KSA proxies in Syria right now? Wake up, the big pounce has already started.
Russia will not over extend themselves. Once operations are completed in the west of Syria (Turkish / Al-Nusra bandits are pushed across border and said border is sealed and opposition / regime cease fire completed). The SAA/IRG/RuAF will turn it's attention east where destroying ISIS will not be done with kiddie gloves like in the west of the country where moderate civilian opposition exists. The mountainous terrain and house-to-house operations don't exist in the east. ISIS will be gone in a matter of weeks. The SAA received delivery of S-300's. That combined with Russian's S-400's effectively shuts down the air space over Syria for NATO. ISIS loses it's airforce and becomes a sitting duck.
The Putin fans have no shame.
This article is about how the US flew into Syria and bombed the Syrian military base. Please stop with the claims of a no fly zone. And Syria has never been delivered the S300. Russia confirmed that the last time Assad claimed he had them that Assad was lieing. That was from Russia.
Did you also miss the part where Turkey took down a Russian jet while it was in Syria and afterwards Turkey moved uniformed regular troops into Syria and took positions?
Turkey moved troops into Iraq. Check a map.
Russia has been invited into Syria, but they have not been formally invited into Iraq just yet. So acting impulsively would DEFINITELY have been used by NATO to accuse Russia of.... Invading Iraq!
Yes Turkey DID move troops into Iraq.
AND TURKEY MOVED TROOPS INTO SYRIA. And Putin does nothing. Turkey moved a small force of regulars into Syria and took a position on a hill to control a small region. I would assume it is just the start and a test to see if Putin has the guts to attack those who shot down his jet and if he does not react they will take more ground.
You're out of your league son,
"the senior Syrian officer at the operations room is quoted as saying: “Soon Syria will announce that any country using the airspace without coordinating with Damascus will be viewed as hostile and [we] will shoot the jet down without warning."
Missed the part where you were in the room when this decision was made.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/columnists/20151206/1031325664/syria-nato-planes-...
It's precisely because Turkey took down that jet that prompted the deployment of the SAM's.
To further connect the dots for you, the coalition strike at the SAA forces will allow Syria to re-claim sovereignty due to coalition aggression. The SAM's are the force posture to back that up.
Assad claimed over a year ago that Syria already had the S300 but Russia then came out and made it clear they had not been supplied and Assad was lieing.
Now get another Syrian official says SAM's. I bet Syrian has some form of SAM but not the S300 (or better). This is not the first time a Syrian base have been bombed but Syria can do nothing.
So, why were those SAM's not used? Is Syria making another false claim (out of desperation) that they just got the S300? Russia already has the S400 in place, why did they not react?
The Russian's have cover to shoot Turkish jets out of the sky now. You'll notice Turkey has not violated Syrian airspace since the deployment of the S-400.
The coalition airstrike against the SAA now gives Syria the cover (The coalition drew first blood) to deploy their SAM's. The coalition strike (which was done by the British by all accounts) was done further east at Dayr El-Zor where Russian radar is not focused as per the deconfliction agreement with the US. All that is out the window now. Expect Syria to 1. formally petition the UN regarding this strike and give notice that they are legally re-claiming their sovereignty and 2. Setup the SAM's and tell the US coalition they are no longer allowed to violate their sovereignty and will be targeted going forward.
This is about controlling the east of the country where the oil is and the US is in a race to prevent the SAA/RuAF from seizing that territory from them and their ISIS / Sunni proxies.
The coalition drew first blood long long ago. Any SAM's that Syria has are what they already had. They still cannot get Putin to deliver the S300.
There has been no news or information put out about the S400 radar not being utilized or restricted from the eastern area of Syria. Please supply information where you came up with that as you are the the only one making such claims that I have read. In fact all the articles have indicated the detection capabilities of the S400 would be fully utilized and would extend Beyond even Syria itself.
Ok, that is some firm move. Petition the UN. Let us know in 10 months how that is going.
Why were the SAMs not set up 3 yrs ago? And sovereignty? The US has started building an air base in NE Syria. Turkey has moved ground troops into Syria, NATO just bombed (again) a Syrian base, and on and on
If the reports about Turkish delaying passage to RUssian ships through the Bosporus are true, perhaps it is because some of them contain the S-300's in question...
There are many, many radars focused on all of those areas, they record everything.
The evidence of exactly who exists, why is it not beling released?
If Vlad doesn't impose a no fly zone he'll have to live with this shit forever. Fucking coalition terrorist loving dimwit psychopath criminals, enough already.
His moves are carefully timed and picked. You'll get your wish soon enough. Just believe.
I'm with BtB. No fly zone
And the first time Russian Air Forces engage a US Navy or US Air Force Fighter Bomber then we will get World War III.
Yeah. Great idea. Global Thermonuclear War.
And it will not matter one bit who fired the first shot as in the final outcome, BOTH YOU AND I WILL BE DEAD you suicidal psychpath.
Good Russian strategy...GLOBAL SUICIDE...or American strategy. You can blame it on anybody that you want as IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER.
The END GAME RESULT IS ALL THAT MATTERS....because it will be FATAL...TO ALL OF US.
NOBODY WINS A NUCLEAR WAR...NOBODY!!!
Calm you tits. Nobody is going to launch strategic nukes.
I have read more than a few stories of times when only intelligent actions by officers of independent mind refused to launch when all their equipment and training said 'launch'.
All of those were before serious automation.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/22/if-windows-crashes-wwiii/
On the other hand, if the US is utterly destroyed and depopulated, then the survivors will win. And if there is nothing left but cockroachs, then the planet will still be a better place without the US.
Nobody wins? Except those who love nighttime winter sports.
The US and its Anglosphere and EU vassals will keep pressing forward against the East but the day is coming soon when the East will say "No More".
On that day WW3 could very likely start.
But who do you blame? I will blame the US and its axis of evil for pushing the world to that point.
So the US can threaten the world with nuclear holocaust if anyone tries to expose them. And that makes the rest of the world the sociopaths? Or do we have to bend over because, you know, nuclear holocaust?
Enforce Syria's borders. Enforce no fly zone for outside countries. Let Russia handle ISIS. The West needs to take tensions down a notch before we all end up ashes and dust. When they start bombing Assads forces and start shooting down Russian bombers attacking ISIS, they are making the problem worse, not better.
But that's what they want right? To make it worse? To take out Assad? Isn't that why they armed ISIS in the first place and called them "moderates" (the same way we armed al-Quaeda and called them "freedom fighters"? According to Paul Craig Robers, the US wants a war with Russia and somehow they think they can start a nuclear war and WIN? Who are these psychopaths and how do we remove them from their deep state positions?
If we continue on this path, WWIII is inevitable. I do not see any positive outcome for humanity if we let that happen.
You seem eager to trigger further/additional military conflict. The country of Syria already receives more than its share of that.
no, no, no,.... You seem to be missing the point Eirik. With Vlad imposing a no fly zone, a happy ending will be much faster than festering and playing chess. Someone at least like Putin has the balls to call it what it is and call DC's bluff and Erdogan's bullshit. We know at least Erdogan has the runs now and can't stop shitting his pants. No one threatens Putin, because if you do, you have to be up to par.
The pieces are being moved into place by Russia.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/russian-submarine-equipped-cruise-missiles-off...
The coalition of evil won't know what hit them when the time comes.
A very European statement that.
He means the exact opposite of what you said. Russia/Syria impose no fly in Syria and all western airforces leave. That would eliminate the possibility of further/additional military conflict rather than trigger it. Well, that is, unless the western forces refuse to abide by international law. Hell, they are breaking it now so what difference does it make?
I guess you are right. Imposing an internationally legal no fly in Syria would cause the west to double down and we would see further military conflict.
Still, it has to happen. Putin/Assad have the legal grounds. Right is right and left is wrong.
And to whoever just downvoted everyone. STFU.
“A U.S. military official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the United States is certain that Russia was responsible for the deadly strike on the Syrian army camp,”
Victoria Nuland?
Worse. It was Reggie.
Reggie said our missile missed
Was that his missile? or Obama's?
An anonymous .gov desk jockey talking to a reporter CANNOT issue a US denial, only a personal denial. He can troll for a sympathetic headline from a compliant press, and the Tylers can oblige, but that isn't the same as an explicit and public declaration of the government of the United States denying involvement.
Here's an idea Washington; get the fuck out of Syria and remove all doubt.
We wish, but he would not live to see the next sunrise. He's a puppet.
And leave al that democracy stuff to others? Nahhhhhh
Why? Was a NATO base ever hit accidently by Russia?
No? And why is that?
Why get out when they can bomb with complete impunity and may soon be bombing Hezbollah in Syria (for Israel).
Personal responsibility is not a trait held dear by Americans.
It's never our fault. Someone else always either did it or started it. We - we are just innocent bystanders, standing around, minding our own business.
All of these mirrors and no eyes with which to look into them.
The ministry of peace is out of control
Why would the Russians bomb Syrian army?! USSA explanations becoming more and more silly by the day.
silly in very depraved indifferent way
I always wonder how those purposely lying press secretaries live with themselves. What a pitiful existence.
filthy lucre
Money. Lots and lots of money!
Lots and lots of Xanax?
Maybe the US can show us a pretty picture of a map of the area with cool graphics and numbers, over-layed with red and green squiggly lines where the US planes were and weren't!
They would refer you to Fuckbook.
American political leaders! There aint no such thing, it does not exist ! Its just a kabaal of evil for izraHELL. The filthy scumbags !
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Pentagon intern with bootleg copy photoshop on laptop this task after lunch will be assigned.
Yea someone call Colin Powell
how many days did Obama deny killing those Doctors with no borders? The Droner in Chief...just lies and the media swear to it!
Deny it until Russia releases the radar logs.
Russia releases radar logs and US falls back on proven news burial tactic: homelands security will impromptu "active shooter drill" orchestrate.
Is now clear that blame for US mass shootings can only be ....... sneaky Putin.
Oh God... Obambi is going to get us all in another war with Russia. omg
I hope so. It's about time that this diseased empire was put to sleep.
I hope you are referring to the US as a diseased empire, which it is.
The MIC is out of control in Syria and the Middle East.
It's pretty clear that Obama has nothing to do with it whatsoever.
He's just a suit that they trot out from time to time to reassure people that what's happening is not really happening.
"U.S. military official" is this the one incharge of integration of Gays, Women and transgender or the one incharge of bio-fuel planes and the solar tanks? The US military hasn't even trying the murdering muslims who killed all those soldiers at FT HOOD SIX YEARS AGO!!!!! Obama has destroyed any shred of integrity the military had. WHY ARE WE EVEN IN SYRIA? Did Syria invade a country like Iraq?
There wasnt this much bickering when Israel was lighting up these poor bastards.
Im shocked team hypocrisy just didnt say they were returning fire.
It may in fact have been the Izzies throwing another sucker punch to get the brawl going. Its their style.
"A U.S. military official, speaking on condition of anonymity,..."
What is it with Reuters in the middle-east? They never name sources.
Helps to manage the script against unexpected contingencies, I guess.
AWACs knows.
What evil lurks in the hearts of men, only the...
lol @ two hoots
Damn right. American propaganda does not need any evidence since Neuland in the Ukraine. That was the point the propaganda was so dumb it worked against them with the next-lower SD of IQs.
Rolling loss of propaganda power, so increasing simplicity and fear-factors. Thank god for people of different skin hues and religion, and so good when combined. What would our Israeli-Neocon operators of False Flag coups do without Muslims for the simple to hate?
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/12/08/the-next-nuremberg-trials/
9/11 was a False Flag operation by the Israeli-Neocons in the US Government
The lies don't even attempt to be covered anymore. It's just flat out horseshit at this point.
There will be war. Prepare.
If it had been a Syrian wedding party, there would be no doubt.
The Tonkin moment can't be far off.
The USSA has insufficient credibility for "certain" to matter.
The propaganda continues...
It doesn't appear to be a problem. Just have any planes attacking Syrian army bases be shot down by Russian anti-aircraft missiles. Then, when the US complains, they can say it was a mistake, and they thought they were shooting at Russian planes, just like last time.
Oh, sure. Just like the Russians shot down MH-17. It's always OK when the truth comes out later, because in the west, they simply don't report that part.
The airport at Kuala Lumpur just put an ad for 3 unknown 747 planes to be claimed...
It is obvious to anyone who has followed events around MH17 that the Ukrainians did it , probably with CIA prompting. Whoever heard of an air accident enquiry being limited the way this one was and taking so long to reach an uncertain conclusion. The western media, and that much heralded bastion of accuracy the BBC, have shown themselves to be propaganda outlets for Washington. The BBC actualy proved this earlier with its premature coverage of the fall of building Seven. Anyone who uncritically believes what these toads put on our TV screens needs to seriously examine their thinking processes
Not to mention the black box has been sitting in the UK and has yet to be made public. All that harping about how the rebels weren't allowing them on to the scene and they needed the black box. Now they have had it for mooooonths and it will never see the light of day.
What do you mean?
The "West" from Japan to Iceland reported that the Russians shot down MH17.
I just hope that Russia doesn't run out of bombs.
Before they run out of money...
Putin "the chess player" in way over his head. Again.
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Putin's former finance minister says the Russian government is running out of money
Russia's economic prognosis is dire.
Alexei Kudrin, who was Russia's finance minister from 2000 to 2011, said, that within the next few years, Russia's "reserve funds will be exhausted and they will have to raise taxes."
Kudrin was speaking in London on Tuesday at a Moscow Exchange conference.
He said one of the big problems Russia faces is servicing its social security payments, particularly pensions.
Kudrin said Russia would have to find a way to cut pension payments and devolve budget powers to the regions."The main thing is we should change the economic structure," said Kudrin. "What we're seeing is that the current growth potential is quite low.
Russia has been home one of the worst performing major world economies this year. It's been squeezed by sanctions on government-controlled companies (of which there are about 1500) and an oil price crash.
It's got both high inflation, at about 15%, and double-digit interest rates, making private financing for business difficult.
This is tragic! I've been on this earth for part of eight decades. I served, honorably, in the US armed forces (1956-1960), pay my taxes, and obey traffic laws. The tragedy is, I believe Putin over those lying cocksuckers in the White House. This is what it has come to, for me.
You're far from alone oldmanofthesee (and then YOU say - "I see")
For sure some satelite knows and it will be leaked out or told by the Russians then there will be the proof of who dunit!
Never believe anything until it has been officially denied- Claud Cockburn
frenchie did it
The US is a serial liar.
The US is very dependable, as a liar.
Is there anyone who has not yet understood the US is the prime agitator of every troubled region around the world?
Someone had to take over for the British when their 200-year run ended...the City still calls the shots.
So President Putin will prove that Obongo is a Bull crap artist by shoting down a few F 16 . Brilliant Mr Obongo !
SYRIAN ARMY THWARTS AMERICAN/ISIS ATTACK ON ITS BASE IN DAYR EL-ZOR
use of italics render ZH voting unpossible
must use romansiki
It's still possible for some to vote even when italics is used:
Hold the Shiftkey down and hit the Tabkey once or twice until you see a small commar appear next to green or red triangle, then hit Enter.
Works for me :-)
Add: yep, I just did it :-)
Thanks--hope I can remember this...
How many missles fit on an F16?
Divide that number into 9 to get an approximation of how many Israeli planes were involved in the attack.
Israel is not part of the "coalition" so both the US and Russia could be telling the truth here. But missles leave evidence on the ground.
"Made by Jews" decal ? :-)
word is 4 aircraft and 9 bomb hit
that from SAA on the ground
told like that, hits was term used, not necessarily dropped...
as was translate
What purpose is served by the presence of French and British aircraft in the theater? They certainly provide for ambiguity and make it easier for Israeli jets to slip in. No surprise that the Israelis did this right after Britain showed up. Canada has the right idea. Time to go home and let Russia deal with this, unencumbered.
So how soon are we going to see those S400's fly ?
There are already serious countermeasures. Russia won't use them because the world will see them defeated and will be bad for the Russian MIC.
I'm not joking.
African purchaser of arms tells Russian arms merchant "Your new weapons are much superior to your old weapons. Now, my army may last 24 hours instead of 23 if attacked by France" True story.
It might help if your propaganda actually made some sense
.....just saying.
Does this make sense?
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US Air Force unveils S-400 KILLER
https://youtu.be/A85Czh9KexI
That's 5 mins of acronyms spewed our in a Raytheon commecial video ad. Weapons rarely operate in practice as well as the commercial ads would have you believe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-k5J4RxQdE
It’s time Throw in the towel –
C/P:
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Gadfly - "Lying D.C. fucks."
Right.
If it's the truth, why insist on anonymity?
It's not as if he saying "We did it!" and covering his ass.
He's blaming the Russians!
Can't even look us in the eye and lie!
Sadly, mistakes happen. The last article I read was that Russia's MOD wasn't going to address the issue. Could be that it was a mistake and is now being used for propaganda to further accentuate the US's complicity with ISIS. If more instances occur, then it will be apparent that the PTB are trying to stall the SAA's advance towards ISIS
Is there anyone left that actually believes these clowns?
An anonymous certainty Russia did it?
C/P:
{Don't be fooled into supporting a war
It is obvious that the Islamic terror meme is being used to get Americans to support a major war in Syria. And Trump is pumping it up as much as he can. In fact, I think Trump might even be getting manipulated into going rabid on the "Islamic terror" meme so the elite can use his popularity to accomplish their war agenda. That makes a pile of sense as far as I see it. }
Supplement with this:
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UPDATE: BLOCKBUSTER: TERRORISTS DROVE SUV SO NEW IT WON'T BE RELEASED UNTIL QUARTER 1 2016!!!]WOW!
I can't bring myself to believe any "official" accusation or denial, from any sovereign state. Sadly, honest people are not welcome in the halls of power anywhere.
So, unless I have credible inside information, I treat all official statements as pretty useless.
Issue GoPros to the rank and file. Video evidence works a treat.
SAA has been attacked by British/Qatari warplanes flying from Iraq and/or through Saudis and Jordan. Just few minutes after so called air rocket attack, ISIL fighters commenced an assault on their own and tried to break through SAA defense lines.
It was done for plausible deniability by the US in the area just 80 miles from the border and US was directing it. Another stage of escalation of war, a provocation to force Russians to close the airspace completely.
More on the Syrian war is here:
https://syrianwarupdate.wordpress.com/
So we are to believe that Russia, an ally and cooperator with Syria would attack their own allies, when the very reason being there is to protect them on Syria`s behalf. I mean how more stupid a Merican excuses can get. Blaming weather for economy, blaming Russia for destroying own allies they protect etc. LOL
The US Pantygon are making it up as they go along:
From:
""We’ve seen those Syrian reports but we did not conduct any strikes in that part of Deir ez Zor yesterday [Sunday]. So we see no evidence,” coalition spokesman Colonel Steve Warren said."
To:
""Steve Warren admitted that the US did indeed carry out at least four strikes in Deir ez Zor on Sunday""
Yup. The sad reality is that they have so little credibility no one even pays them any mind. This, perhaps even more so than the so called steeple, is the greatest threat. to me, this explains why .gov is barely even trying to cover their tracks anymore.
Vladimir won't make his move yet. He knows the west is suffering from a refugee crisis and an economic crisis. He'll prolong this suffering until the time is right.
New Lows in Public Affairs...
There was no attack on a Syrian army position by the US/coalition. Three Syrian soldiers were not killed and a dozen wounded.
Vladimir Putin is dipping his toe into the dark water of propaganda that the US has been swimming in for 25 years.
Elsewhere I opined that the Russians have come up with modified no-fly zone that the coalition can use if they inform the Russians of their plans. France and England launched sorties at ISIS without a problem.
I believe that the US refuses to inform Russia of it's plans and didn't inform them on Sunday of their attack on ISIS in Dier ez Zor.
Because Russia is more in control of the Syrian skies than the US, they were able to launch planes and accompanied the US jets to Dier ez Zor.
After the raid was over and all returned to their base, the Syrians put out the story that three soldiers were killed and a dozen wounded.
The Keystone Colonels of the Pentagon have had to give many press conferences refuting the Syrian story and blaming it on the Russians.
While many Europeans have no problem believing that the country that would not bomb ISIS wellheads and tanker trucks for over year did attack the Syrian position and kill three soldiers.
If anyone knows the three soldiers who died or has pix and/or selfies of their base in Dier ez Zor, please drop me a note.
CabalA$$LickerLiarDrugAddictHomObamma
need we say more?
Thats why the satanist americans are here for