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The Screaming Fundamentals For Owning Gold
Submitted by Chris Martenson via PeakProsperity.com,
Every year or two we update this report, which lays out the investment thesis for gold. Here is this year's version.
Silver is touched upon only as necessary; as a separate report of equal scope is required for that precious metal.
Gold is one of the few investments that every investor should have in their portfolio. We are now at the dangerous end-game period of a very bold but very reckless & disappointing experiment with the world's fiat (unbacked) currencies. If this experiment fails -- and we observe it's in the process of failing -- gold will provide one of the best forms of wealth insurance. But like all insurance products, it only works if you buy it before you need to rely on it.
Risky Markets
As the world’s central banks perform increasingly bizarre and desperate maneuvers to keep the financial system from falling apart, the most frequently asked question we receive is: What should I do?
Unfortunately, there’s no simple answer to that question. Even seasoned pros running gigantic funds are baffled by the unusual set of conditions created by 4 decades of excessive borrowing and 7 years of aggressive money printing by central banks. We expect market conditions to be even more perilous in 2016 as they are here in December 2015. Worse, we fear a major market correction -- if not a financial/banking accident of historic proportions -- could easily happen in the not too distant future.
In short: this is a dangerous time for investors. At a time like this, we believe it's prudent to focus more on protecting one’s wealth rather than gambling for capital gains.
The Opportunity In These Strange Times
In 2001, as we witnessed the painful end of the long stock bull market, like many of you I imagine, I began to grow quite concerned about my traditionally-managed stock and bond holdings. Other than a house with 27 years left on a 30-year mortgage, these paper assets represented 100% of my investing portfolio.
So I dug into the economic data to discover what the future likely held. What I found shocked me. The insights are all in the Crash Course, in both video and book form, so I won't go into all of that data here. But one key takeaway for me was: the US and many other governments around the world are spending far more than they are taking in, and are supporting that gap by printing a whole lot of new money.
By 2002, I had investigated enough about our monetary, economic, and political systems that I came to the conclusion that holding gold and silver would be a very good idea for protecting the purchasing power of my financial wealth from all this money printing. So took an extreme step: I poured 50% of my liquid net worth into precious metals at that time, and sat back and waited.
Despite the ups and downs in the years that followed -- years of ups until 2011, years of down since -- that move has still turned out to be a very sound investment for me. And I forecast the best is yet to come for precious metals holders like me.
But part of my is depressed by that conviction. Why? Because the forces that are going to drive the price of gold (and silver) higher are the very same trends that are going to leave most people on the planet financially much worse off than they are now.
Here at PeakProsperity.com, we admit that we initially were utterly baffled that the vicious secular decline in the price of gold began at almost the exact same time that the US Federal Reserve announced the largest and most aggressive money printing operation in all of history – known as QE3 – which pumped over $1.7 trillion into the financial system between 2012-2014, throwing an astonishing $85 billion dollars of newly created 'thin air' money into the financial system every month!
Such an unprecedented and excessive act of monetary desperation should have sent gold's price to the moon; but in fact, the opposite happened. Strange times.
As we’ll soon explain, even as the price of gold futures were being relentlessly driven down in the US paper markets, the purchase of physical gold by China exploded. It's as if the West suddenly decided gold wasn't worth owning. Strange times, indeed.
As we'll now explain in detail, we are witness to an incredibly aberrant moment in financial history -- one where the price of gold is extremely undervalued relative to its true value. And similarly, many paper assets are overvalued well-above their intrinsic worth. The dichotomy of this moment in time is likely not to be repeated in our lifetimes; and those who understand the fundamentals accurately have the opportunity to position themselves now to benefit greatly (or at least, to not be impoverished) as this extreme imbalance corrects, as it must.
Why Own Gold?
The reasons to hold gold (and silver) -- I mean physical bullion here -- are pretty straightforward. Let’s begin with the primary ones:
- To protect against monetary recklessness
- As insurance against the possibility of a major calamity in the banking/financial system
- For the embedded 'option value' that will pay out handsomely if gold is re-monetized
Reason No. 1: To Protect Against Monetary Recklessness
By ‘monetary recklessness,’ we mean the creation of more money out of thin air than the productive economy actually needs or can use. The central banks of the world have been doing this for decades, but it has kicked into high gear ever since the onset of the 2008 financial crisis.
In our system money is created out of thin air. It is created when a bank lends you money for a mortgage and it is created when the Federal Reserve buys a trillion dollars’ worth of mortgages from the banks. If you didn’t know that money was ‘loaned into existence’ then you should really watch (or read) those parts of the Crash Course that explain the significance of this process.
Since 1970 the US has been compounding its total credit market debts at the astounding rate of nearly 8% per annum which gives us a chart that swoops into the air, and which reveals an astonishing 39-fold expansion since 1970 to nearly $60 trillion dollars:

Why is this astonishing? Isn’t it true that our economy has expanded tremendously since 1970, as well? After all, if our economy has expanded by the same amount, then the advance is not astonishing at all.
But sadly, the economy, as measure by Gross Domestic Product, or GDP, has grown by less than half as much over the same time frame:

Where credit zoomed from $1.5 trillion to $59 trillion, GDP only advanced from $1.1 trillion to $18 trillion. In other words, debt has been growing far faster than real things that have real value. (And to make things worse, as we explain in Chapter 18 of the Crash Course, GDP numbers are artificially overstated. The debt figures, sadly, are not.)
The crazy part of this story is that the financial and monetary system are so addicted to exponential expansion that they literally threaten to collapse violently if that growth ceases or even slows. Remember 2008 and 2009, back when the financial world seemed to be ending? Well, collapse was a very real possibility and here’s what almost caused that:

Anything other than smooth, continuous, exponential growth at a pace faster than GDP seems to be a death knell for our current over-indebted system of finance. If you are like us, you see the problem in that right away.
The short version is this: Nothing can grow exponentially forever. But our credit system not only wants to, but has to. Or else it will collapse.
This desperate drive for continuous compounding growth in money and credit is a principal piece of evidence that convinces us that hard assets -- of which gold is perhaps the star representative for the average person -- are an essential ingredient in a crash-proof portfolio.
Back to our main narrative: because all money is loaned into existence, the next thing we should be wondering is where’s all the money that was created when those loans were made? We’d expect it to mirror credit creation in shape.
What we find, unsurprisingly, is another exponential chart. This time of the money supply (of zero maturity, or MZM in banker parlance):

Money is a claim on real things, which you buy with it. Money is no good all by itself; it’s useful because you can buy a car with it, or land, or groceries, or medical services. Which is why we state that money is a claim on goods and services.
Debt, on the other hand, is a claim on future money. Your mortgage is your debt, and you satisfy that debt by paying out money, in the future. That’s why we say that debt is a claim on future money.
By now you should be thinking about how important it is that money and debt grow at the same rate as goods and services. If they grow at a slower rate, then there won’t be enough money and credit to make purchases, and the economy would thus contract.
But it's equally important that money and credit do not grow faster than goods and services. If they do, then there will be too much money chasing too few real things, which causes prices to rise. That’s inflation.
Here’s the punch-line: Since 1980, money and credit have been growing at more than twice the rate of real things. There’s far more money and debt in the economy than there is real "stuff" all that paper is laying claim to. Worse, the system seems addicted to forever growing its debts faster than its income (or GDP) -- a mathematical impossibility any 4th grader can point out.
This is a dangerously unstable system. And it’s going to either crumble slowly for a long time -- or violently explode at some point. This isn't an opinion, it’s just math.
The Federal Reserve has created and nourished a monster. It simply does not know how to begin starving the beast without it turning on the hand that feeds it, and thus destroying huge swaths of so-called paper "wealth" along with the actual economy.
So the Fed and its central bank brethren just keep pumping more and more money into the syste, fueling ever-higher levels of debt while hoping for an outcome that is simply impossible.
Negative Real Interest Rates
Real interest rates are deeply negative (meaning that the rate of inflation is higher than Treasury bond yields). Even more startling, there are trillions of dollars worth of sovereign debt that has negative nominal yields. This means that investors pay various governments to take their money from them for periods as long as seven years. For example, at the time of this writing in late 2015, $1,000 loaned to the German government for 5 years will pay back $980 at the end of those five years. That’s insane. Or at least, a very new wrinkle that we have yet to determine how it will alter investor decisions and psychology.
Negative interest rates are a forced, manipulated outcome courtesy of central banks. Of course, the true rate of inflation is much higher than the officially-reported statistics by at least a full percent or possibly two; and so I consider real bond yields to be far more negative than is currently reported.
Historically, periods of negative real interest rates are nearly always associated with outsized returns for commodities, especially precious metals. If and when real interest rates turn positive, I will reconsider my holdings in gold and silver but not until then. That's as close to an absolute requirement as I have in this business. Recently commodities have been hard-hit, declining in price by large amounts. So negative interest rates are giving us different results this time than we'd expect...so far.
Dangerous Policies
Monetary policies across the developed world remain as accommodating as they’ve ever been. Even Greenspan's 1% blow-out special in 2003 was not as steeply negative in real terms as what Bernanke engineered over his more recent tenure. Janet Yellen has extended those polices along with the help of foreign central banks into extreme, never-before-seen territory that now includes negative nominal interest rates! As mentioned above, this means people are paying governments for the ‘privilege’ of lending those same governments their money.
But it is the highly aggressive and ‘alternative’ use of the Federal Reserve's balance sheet to prop up insolvent banks and to sop up extra Treasury debt that really has me worried. There seems to be no end to these ever-expanding programs, and they seem to have become a permanent feature of the economic and financial landscape. In Europe, the European Central Bank (ECB) is aggressively expanding its balance sheet. In Japan we have Prime Minister Abe's ultra-aggressive policy of doubling the monetary base in just two years. Suffice it to say that such grand experiments have never been tried before, and anyone that has the vast bulk of their wealth tied up in financial assets is making an explicit bet that these experiments will go exactly as planned. Who in their right mind thinks it will?
Reason No 2: To Protect Against a Major Banking Failure
Reason #2, insurance against a major calamity in the banking system, is an important part of my rationale for holding gold.
And let me clear: I’m not referring to “paper" gold, which includes the various tradable vehicles (like the "GLD" ETF) that you can buy like stocks through your broker. I’m talking about physical gold and silver (coins, bars, etc). Its their unusual ability to sit outside of the banking/monetary system and act as monetary assets that appeals to me.
Literally everything else financial, including the paper US bills in our wallets and purses, is simultaneously somebody else’s liability. But gold and silver bullion are not. They are simply -- boringly, perhaps -- just assets. This is a highly desirable characteristic that is not easily replicated in today's world of ‘money.’
Should the banking system suffer a systemic breakdown -- to which I ascribe a reasonably high probability of greater than 1-in-3 over the next 5 years -- I expect banks to close for some period of time. Whether it's two weeks or six months is unimportant. No matter the length of time, I'd prefer to be holding gold than bank deposits if/when that happens.
What most people don’t know is that the banking crisis in Cyprus in 2013 ushered in an entirely new set of rules as well as a new financial term: the “bail-in.” Where a bail-out uses taxpayer funds to re-capitalize a failed bank, a bail-in uses internal assets to accomplish that task. Which ‘internal assets?’ Bank deposits, as in the accounts regular people like you hold at your bank. Even worse, the new rules adopted within the US specifically call for the derivative bets made between banks to have seniority over bank deposits when it comes to a bail-in restructuring event. That means that the money you hold in your bank account will be used to pay off any and all reckless bets your bank may have made with another financial entity via derivative bets. And US banks hold a LOT of derivatives on their books right now.
During a banking holiday, your money will be frozen and left just sitting there, even as everything priced in money (especially imported items) rockets up in price. By the time your money is again available to you, you may find that a large portion of it has been looted by the effects of a collapsing currency. How do you avoid this? Easy: keep some ‘money’ out of the system to spend during an emergency. We advocate three months of living expenses in cold, hard cash; but you owe it to yourself to have at least a little gold and silver in your possession as well.
The test run for such a bank holiday recently played out in Cyprus where people woke up one day and discovered that their bank accounts were frozen. Those with large deposits had a very material percentage of those funds seized so that the bank's more senior creditors, the bondholders, could avoid the losses they were due. Sound fair to you? Me neither.
Most people, at least those paying attention, learned two things from Cyprus:
- In a time of crisis, those in power will do whatever it takes to assure that the losses are spread across the population rather than be taken by the relatively few institutions and individuals responsible for those losses.
- If you make a deposit with a bank, you are actually an unsecured creditor of that institution. This means you are legally last in line for repayment should that institution fail.
Reason No. 3 – Gold May Be Re-monetized
The final reason for holding gold, because it may be remonetized, is actually a very big draw for me. While the probability of this coming to pass may be low, the rewards would be very high for those holding gold should it occur.
Here are some numbers: the total amount of 'official gold', that held by central banks around the world, is 31,320 tonnes, or 1.01 billion troy ounces. In 2013 the total amount of money stock in the world was roughly $55 trillion.
If the world wanted 100% gold backing of all existing money, then the implied price for an ounce of gold is ($55T/1.01BOz) = $54,455 per troy ounce.
Clearly that's a silly number (or is it?). But even a 10% partial backing of money yields $5,400 per ounce. The point here is not to bandy about outlandish numbers, but merely to point out that unless a great deal of the world's money stock is destroyed somehow, or a lot more official gold is bought from the market and placed into official hands, backing even a small fraction of the world's money supply by gold will result in a far higher number than today's ~$1,080/oz.
The Difference Between Silver & Gold
A quick word on silver: often people ask me if I hold "goldandsilver" as if it were one word. I do own both, but for almost entirely different reasons.
Gold, to me, is a monetary substance. It has money-like qualities and it has been used as money by diverse cultures throughout history. I expect that to continue.
There is a slight chance that gold will be re-monetized on the international stage due to a failure of the current all-fiat regime. If or when the fiat regime fails, there will have to be some form of replacement, and the only one that we know from the past that works for sure is a gold standard. Therefore, a renewed gold standard has the best chance of being the ‘new’ system selected during the next bout of difficulties.
So gold is money.
Silver is an industrial metal with a host of enviable and irreplaceable attributes. It is the most conductive element on the periodic table, and therefore it is widely used in the electronics industry. It is used to plate critical bearings in jet engines and as an antimicrobial additive to everything from wall paints to clothing fibers. In nearly all of these uses, plus a thousand others, it is used in vanishingly-small quantities that are hardly worth recovering at the end of the product life cycle -- so they often aren't.
Because of this dispersion effect, above-ground silver is actually quite a bit less abundant than you might suspect. When silver was used primarily for monetary and ornamentation purposes, the amount of above-ground, refined silver grew with every passing year. After industrial uses cropped up, that trend reversed. Today it's calculated that roughly half of all the silver ever mined in human history has been irretrievably dispersed.
Because of this consumption dynamic, it's entirely possible that over the next twenty years not one single net new ounce of above-ground silver will be added to inventories. In contrast, a few billion ounces of gold are forecast to be added.
I hold gold as a monetary metal. I own silver because of its residual monetary qualities, but more importantly because I believe it will continue to be in demand for industrial uses for a very long time, and it will become a scarce and rare item.
The Fed Indeed Cares About Gold
Gold, when unfettered, has a habit of sending signals that the Fed very much doesn’t like. Therefore the Fed is at the top of everyone’s suspect list when it comes to wondering who might be behind the suspicious gold slams seen almost daily in today's markets. Whether the Fed does this directly is doubtful; but it has a lot of proxies out there in its cartel network who likely are doing its dirty work.
To reveal the extent to which gold sits front and center in the Fed’s mind, and how the Fed thinks of gold, here’s an excerpt from a 1993 FOMC meeting’s full transcript. Note that the full meeting notes from Fed meetings are only released many years after the fact, long after many or all of the voting members are no longer serving. (The most recent ones available are only from 2009.) Listen to what this FOMC voting member had to say about gold:
At the last meeting I was very concerned about what commodity prices were doing. And as you know, they got lucky again and told us that the rate of inflation was higher than we thought it was.
Now, I know there's nothing to it but they did get lucky. I've had plenty of econometric studies tell me how lucky commodity prices can get. I told you at the time that the reason I had not been upset before the March FOMC meeting was that the price of gold was well behaved.
But I said that the price of gold was moving. The price of gold at that time had moved up from 328 to 344, and I don't know what I was so excited about! I guess it was that I thought the price of gold was going on up. Now, if the price of gold goes up, long bond rates will not be involved.
People can talk about gold's price being due to what the Chinese are buying; that's the silliest nonsense that ever was. The price of gold is largely determined by what people who do not have trust in fiat money system want to use for an escape out of any currency, and they want to gain security through owning gold.
A monetary policy step at this time is a win/win. I don't know what is going to happen for sure. I hope Mike is correct that the rate of inflation will move back down to 2.6 percent for the remaining 8 months of this calendar year. If we make a move and Mike is correct, we could take credit for having accomplished this and the price of gold will soon be down to the 328 level and we can lower the fed funds rate at that point in time and declare victory.
There it is, in black and white from an FOMC member’s own mouth spelling out the primary reason why I hold gold: I lack faith in our fiat money system. He nailed it. Or rather, I have very great faith that the people managing the money system will print too much and ultimately destroy it. Same thing, said differently.
And of course the people at the Fed are acutely aware of gold's role as a barometer of people’s faith in ‘fiat money.’ Of course they track it very carefully, discuss it, and worry about it when it is sending ‘the wrong signals.’ I would, too, if in their shoes.
The Federal Reserve Note (a.k.a. the US dollar) is literally nothing more than an idea. It has no intrinsic value. America's money supply is just digital ones and zeros careening about the planet, accompanied by a much smaller amount of actual paper currency. The last thing an idea needs is to be exposed as fraudulent. Trust is everything for a currency -- when that dies, the currency dies.
The other thing you can note from these FOMC minutes is that gold pops up 19 times in the conversation. The Fed members are actively and deliberately discussing its price, its role in setting interest rates, and the psychological impact of a rising or falling gold price.
Later in that same meeting Mr. Greenspan says:
My inclination for today--and I'm frankly most curious to get other people's views--would be to go to a tilt toward tightness and to watch the psychology as best we can. By the latter I mean to watch what is happening to the bond market, the exchange markets, and the price of gold…
I have one other issue I'd like to throw on the table. I hesitate to do it, but let me tell you some of the issues that are involved here. If we are dealing with psychology, then the thermometers one uses to measure it have an effect. I was raising the question on the side with Governor Mullins of what would happen if the Treasury sold a little gold in this market.
There's an interesting question here because if the gold price broke in that context, the thermometer would not be just a measuring tool. It would basically affect the underlying psychology. Now, we don't have the legal right to sell gold but I'm just frankly curious about what people's views are on situations of this nature because something unusual is involved in policy here. We're not just going through the standard policy where the money supply is expanding, the economy is expanding, and the Fed tightens. This is a wholly different thing.
The recap of all this is that the Fed watches the price of gold carefully, frets over whether the price of gold is ‘sending the right signals’ to market participants, and pays attention to gold's impact on market psychology (with an eye to controlling it).
In short, the Fed keeps a close eye on the "golden thermometer".
Back to the supply story for gold. Not long after gold began its downward price movement in 2012, the GLD ETF trust began coughing up a lot of gold, eventually shedding more than 500 tonnes; a truly massive amount.

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In my mind, the absolute slamming of gold in 2013 was done by a few select entities and represents one of the clearest cases of price manipulation on the recent record. While we can debate the reasons ‘why’ gold was manipulated lower or ‘who’ did it, to me, there’s no question about how it was done. Or that it was done.
Massive amounts of paper gold were dumped into a thin overnight market with the specific intent of driving down the price of gold.
It’s an open and shut case of price manipulation. Textbook perfect.
Even if these bear raids were performed by self-interested parties that made money while doing it, you can be sure the Fed was smiling thankfully in the background and that the SEC wasn’t going to spend one minute looking into whether any securities laws were broken (especially those related to price manipulation).
Gold's falling "thermometer" was exactly what the central planners wanted the world to see.
Down And Out
The paper markets for gold are centered in the US, while the physical market for gold is centered in London (and increasingly Shanghai). It’s safe to say that the paper markets set the spot price, while the physical movement of gold originates in London.
What’s increasingly obvious is the growing disconnect between the paper and physical markets. This is exactly what we’d expect to see if the paper markets were pushing in one direction (down) while physical gold was heading in a different direction (out).
The tension between these ‘down and out’ movements is building and, according to a senior manager of one of the largest gold refineries in the world located in Switzerland, the current price of gold “has no correlation to the physical market.”
He notes a lot of on-going tightness in the physical market. Unsurprisingly, gold is moving from West to East with vaults in London supplying much of the physical metal that's being refined into fresh kilo bars and sent off to China and India.
But given the astonishing amount of physical demand, why has the price of gold been heading steadily lower over the past several years?
The aforementioned Swiss refiner is equally perplexed:
If I am honest, the only thing I could share now with you would be that I’m perplexed about the discrepancy between the prices and the situation of the physical market.
This is something I still do not understand and is a riddle for me every day. For all people who are interested in precious metals, the physical side of this business should be given more emphasis.
There’s no mystery as to demand going up in China and India as the price of gold has moved down. Interested buyers will buy more at a lower price.
But it’s a big mystery as to why Western “investors” seem more interested in selling gold than buying it right now.
Go East Young Man
The biggest untold story of the past few years has been the absolutely massive extent of the flow of gold heading from the West to the East. Gold has been leaving London and Switzerland and heading to China and India.
Besides the first-hand experience of the Swiss refiner, there have been numerous stories in the main stream press also pointing to tightness in the London physical gold market as well as relentless demand from China and India being the driver of that condition:
Gold demand from China and India picks up
Sep 2, 2015
London’s gold market is showing tentative signs of increased demand for bullion from consumers in emerging markets, after the price of the precious metal fell to its lowest level in five years in July.
The cost of borrowing physical gold in London has risen sharply in recent weeks. That has been driven by dealers needing gold to deliver to refineries in Switzerland before it is melted down and sent to places such as India, according to market participants
“[The rise] does indicate there is physical tightness in the market for gold for immediate delivery,” said Jon Butler, analyst at Mitsubishi.
The move comes as Indian gold demand picked up in July, with shipments of gold from Switzerland to India more than trebling. Most of that gold is likely to originally come from London before it is melted down into kilobars by Swiss refineries, according to analysts.
In the first half of this year, total recorded exports of gold from the UK were 50 per cent higher than the first half of 2014, on a monthly average basis, according to Rhona O’Connell, head of metals for GFMS at Thomson Reuters. More than 90 per cent was headed for a combination of China, Hong Kong and Switzerland.
London remains the world’s biggest centre for trading and storing gold.
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Shipments and exports are up very strongly and nearly all of that gold is headed to just two countries; China and India.
India Precious Metals Import Explosive – August Gold 126t, Silver 1,400t
Sept 10, 2015
In the month of August 2015, India imported 126 tonnes of gold and 1,400 tonnes of silver, according to data from Infodrive India. Gold import into India is rising after a steep fall due to government import restrictions implemented in 2013.
Year-to-date India has imported 654 tonnes of gold, which is 66 % up year on year. 6,782 tonnes in silver bars have crossed the Indian border so far this year, up 96 % y/y.
Gold import is set to reach an annualized 980 tonnes, which would be up 26 % relative to 2014 and would be the second highest figure on (my) record – my record goes back to 2008.
Silver import is on track to reach an annualized 10,172 tonnes, up 44 % y/y! This would be a staggering 37 % of world mining.
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To summarize, the gold and silver imports into India have been absolutely on a tear lately as that country tends to buy more and more as the price drops lower and lower.
While the paper games setting the price of gold and silver in the West continue to support lower and lower prices, for whatever reasons, this only stimulates more demand from China and India.
Seen collectively, there’s what gold demand looks like for “Chindia.”

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To make things even more interesting, the world’s central banks have been increasingly strong net buyers, not sellers, of gold for the past 5 years.
Central Banks
Another factor driving demand has been the reemergence of central banks as net acquirers of gold. This is actually a pretty big deal. Over the past few decades, central banks have been actively reducing their gold holdings, preferring paper assets over the 'barbarous relic.' Famously, Canada and Switzerland vastly reduced their official gold holdings during this period (to effectively zero in the case of Canada), a decision that many citizens of those countries have openly and actively questioned.
The UK-based World Gold Council is the primary firm that aggregates and reports on gold supply-and-demand statistics. Here's their most recent data on official (i.e., central bank) gold holdings:

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After more than a decade of selling gold to suppress the price, central banks turned into net acquirers right as gold began its plummet from its 2011 highs. 2015 looks to be an even stronger year for central bank purchases.
With China and India’s combined appetite for gold being higher than total world mining output, and central banks on a buying spree, it only stands to reason that somebody has to be parting with their physical gold -- and those selling entities appear to be substantially located in the US and UK.
An interesting piece of detective work was done by Ronan Manly at Bullionstar.com where he noted that the LBMA reported pronounced drops in the amount of gold stored in London vaults, which includes both gold held at the Bank of England as well as non-official vaults within the LBMA system.
To summarize his report, here’s the amount of gold reportedly held in London:
- April 2014 – 9,000 tonnes
- Early 2015 – 7,500 tonnes
- June 2015 – 6,250 tonnes
That means that 2,750 tonnes left London over the past 1+ year.
Does such a large number even make sense?
Well, sure, if we consider that just these four countries cumulatively imported (or increased reserves) by ~4,500 tonnes since the beginning of 2014.

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Confirming this is this handy chart of UK gold flows as compared to Shanghai Gold Exchange (SGE) withdrawals:

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Quite interestingly, the highest flows out of the UK were during the months of the gold price bloodbath in early 2013 (a coincidence?), but the flows had picked up in earnest in the months prior. Without the ‘liberation’ of gold from GLD, it’s quite possible that physical shortages would have appeared much earlier. Again, the price smash of gold seems to have been a stroke of good luck for the central planners in the West, both for the psychological impact but also for liberating so much physical gold from weak hands.
What we can also see is that, generally speaking, the UK has been steadily losing gold month in and month out for the past 2.5 years. Also interestingly, the gold that the UK does import has mainly come, of late, from the US and Canada.
The only question is: How much longer can this continue?
Ronan Manly took a stab at estimating how much of the remaining 6,250 tonnes of gold in the UK was available for export and the answer was ‘not very much.’ He estimated that, of the gold that did not belong to the BoE, that perhaps ~120 tonnes was not spoken for by various gold ETFs and other allocated accounts. To put that in context, 120 tonnes is a couple of weeks of demand at China's Shanghai Exchange, or a month of Indian demand.
Warning Signs At The COMEX
While I used to be among the people that expected the eventual default on gold to happen in the COMEX warehouse, I no longer think that. In fact, should things ever get to the point that COMEX cannot deliver on a physical contract, the rules will almost certainly be changed to force a cash settlement and that will be that.
When things get serious, they lie. Or change the rules. Or both.
However, the internet has been abuzz lately with some very interesting oddities coming out of the COMEX, notably a sharp decline in the amount of gold that is ‘registered’ to be delivered to settle a futures contract that has matured and declared for physical delivery.

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When compared to the number of contracts outstanding, the ratio of open contracts to registered gold has never been higher.

This means that, if just 0.5% of the futures contracts stood for delivery, the COMEX warehouse would be wiped out of registered gold.
The reason this is not actually a big concern is that new gold can and would be moved out of the ‘eligible’ category and over to the registered category to satisfy whatever shortfall existed.
For those interested, here’s a quick primer on the distinction between ‘eligible’ and ‘registered’:
Eligible Silver
To be eligible for storage in a CME-authorized depository, silver must be 99.9 percent pure. For the standard 5,000-ounce futures contract, the silver must be cast into bars weighing 1,000 troy ounces, give or take 6 percent. Each silver bar must be marked with its weight, purity, a serial number and the brand of the refiner. Only brands officially listed by the CME can be eligible for storage. Should a refiner deliver silver that is below standard, the metal is rejected or sold, and the refiner risks losing its authorization to warehouse silver for Comex futures.
Registered Silver
Eligible silver stored at a CME-authorized depository is not available for sale unless it is registered. An owner can register eligible silver deposits by having the depository issue a warrant that certifies the details of ownership. Silver warrants were once printed on paper, but were converted to electronic form in 2011. Not all eligible silver is registered for sale, but all registered silver must first be eligible. Silver owners frequently extend or withdraw registration depending on whether or not they wish to sell their holdings at current prices.
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The real question is whether there’s enough total gold at the COMEX to cover any physical buying demand that might arise and the answer, for now, is ‘yes’:

The reason I don’t worry about (or hope for) a COMEX default is that it’s not really a place where players show up to get physical gold (or silver). It's merely a depository that provides the necessary optics for paper speculators to place bets against each other.
Yes, it’s the place that ends up setting the price of gold and silver for the world, but the number of shenanigans that can be pulled to manipulate prices higher or lower are numerous and routinely used.
When I Would Worry About (or Hope For) A Default
My view is that the first stage of a sharp rebound in the price of gold will begin with increasing tightness and eventually shortages in the London bullion market.
Needing to secure more gold, on a reasonable time frame, refiners would then turn to the COMEX market, but with the intention of taking delivery. If/when that happens it won’t take long for COMEX to be stripped clean of both categories of gold.
There’s ~220 tonnes of gold in COMEX and, again, that’s just a month or two of current demand (that is in excess of total world mining output).
As soon as it’s recognized that COMEX is being drawn upon to satisfy Eastern demand, the price fireworks will start. Or the rules will be changed. But I’m betting on price being the chosen mechanism to align supply and demand.
The summary of the fundamental analysis of gold demand is
- there is a huge and pronounced flow of gold from the West to the East
- there is rising demand from all quarters except for the 'hot money' GLD investment vehicle (which I have never been a fan of)
- all of this demand has handily outstripped mine supply which means that someone's vaults are being emptied (the West's) as someone else's are rapidly filling (the East's)
Now about that supply...
Gold Supply
Not surprisingly, the high prices for gold and silver in 2010 and 2011 stimulated a lot of exploration and new mine production. Conversely, the bear market from 2012 though 2015 has done the opposite.
However, the odd part of the story for those with a pure economic view is that, with more than a decade of steadily rising prices, there has been relatively little incremental new mine production. But for those of us with an understanding of resource depletion, it's not surprising at all.
In 2011, the analytical firm Standard Chartered calculated a subdued 3.6% rate of gold production growth over the next five years based on lowered ore grades and very high cash operating costs:
Most market commentary on gold centers on the direction of US dollar movements or inflation/deflation issues – we go beyond this to examine future mine supply, which we regard as an equally important driver. In our study of 375 global gold mines and projects, we note that after 10 years of a bull market, the gold mining industry has done little to bring on new supply. Our base-case scenario puts gold production growth at only 3.6% CAGR over the next five years.
(Source - Standard Chartered)
Since then, the trends for lower ore grade and higher costs have only gotten worse. But the huge drop in the price of gold in 2011 and 2012 was the final nail in the coffin and resulted in the slashing of CAPEX investment by gold mining companies.
Of course, none of this is actually surprising to anyone who understands where we are in the depletion cycle, but it's probably quite a shock to many an economist. The quoted report goes on to calculate that existing projects just coming on-line need an average gold price of $1,400 to justify the capital costs, while green field, or brand-new, projects require a gold price of $2,000 an ounce.
This enormous increase in required gold prices to justify the investment is precisely the same dynamic that we are seeing with every other depleting resource: energy costs run smack-dab into declining ore yields to produce an exponential increase in operating costs. And it's not as simple as the fuel that goes into the Caterpillar D-9s; it's the embodied energy in the steel and all the other energy-intensive mining components all along the entire supply chain.
Just as is the case with oil shales that always seem to need an oil price $10 higher than the current price to break even, the law of receding horizons (where rising input costs constantly place a resource just out of economic reach) will prevent many an interesting, but dilute, gold ore body from being developed. Given declining net energy, that's that same as "forever" as far as I'm concerned.
Just like any resource, before you can produce it you have to find it. Therefore the relationship between gold discoveries and future output is a simple one; the more you have discovered in the past, the more you can expect to produce in the future, all things being equal.
This next chart should tell you everything you need to know about where we are in the depletion cycle for gold, as even with the steadily rising prices between 1999 and 2011 (going from $300 an ounce to $1,900), gold discoveries plummeted in 1999 and remained on the floor thereafter:

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Here we see that the 1990's decade saw quite a number of large discoveries that are currently still in production but which were not matched in later years. Since it takes roughly ten years to bring a mine into full production following discovery, it's fair to say that we are currently enjoying production from the discoveries of the 1990's. Future gold production will largely be shaped by the discoveries made since then.
In other words: Expect less gold production in the future.
Meanwhile, there will be more money, more credit, and more people (especially in the East) competing for that diminished supply of gold going forward.
Let's take another angle on gold supply, one which circles back and supports the above chart showing fewer and smaller discoveries in recent years.
The United States Geological Survey, or USGS, keeps a mountain of data on literally every important mined substance. I think it's staffed by credible people, doing good work, and I've yet to detect overt political influence in their reported statistics.
At any rate, the latest assessment on gold reveals that their best guess for world supply is that something on the order of 52,000 tonnes of reserves are left. Which means that, at the 2012 mining rate of 2,700 tonnes, there are 19 years of reserves left:

(Source)
This doesn't mean that in 19 years there will be no more new gold to be had, as reserves are always a function of price; but it gives us a sense of what's out there right now at current prices.
As much as I like the folks at the USGS, I will point out one glaring discrepancy in their data as a means of exposing why I think these reserves, like those for many other critical things like oil, are probably overstated. And that story begins with South Africa.
There you'll note that, at 6,000 tonnes, South Africa has the second largest stated country reserves. However, according to official South African data, they claim to have an astonishing 36,000 tonnes of reserves. Which is right?
Neither as it turns out.
First, the true story of South African gold production is completely obvious from the production data. It's a story of being well and truly past the peak of production:

(Source)
And not just a little bit past peak, but 44 years past; down a bit more than 80% from the peak in 1970. The above chart is simply not even slightly in alignment with the claims of the South African government to have 36,000 tonnes of reserves. But pity the poor South African government, which knows that gold exports represent fully one third of all their exports. Of course they will want to loudly proclaim massive reserves that will support many future years of robust exports.
Instead, the South African production data can be modeled by the same methods as any other depleting resource and one such analysis has been done and arrived at the conclusion that there are around 2,900 tonnes left to be mined in South Africa.

(Source)
The analysis is quite sound; and the authors went on to point out that the social, economic, energy, and environmental costs of extracting those last 2,900 tonnes are quite probably higher than the current market value of those same tonnes. If they are extracted, South Africa will be net poorer for those efforts. This is the same losing proposition as if it took more than one barrel of oil to get a barrel of oil out of the ground -- the activity is a loss and should not be undertaken.
For lots of political and economic reasons, however, gold mining will continue in South Africa. But, realistically... someone in government there should be thinking this through quite carefully.
The larger story wrapped into the South African example is this: Perhaps there are 19 years of global gold reserves left (at current rates of production), but I doubt it.
Instead, the story of future gold production will be one of declining production at ever higher extraction costs -- exacerbated by the 80,000,000 new people who swell the planet's population every twelve months, the hundreds of millions of people in the East who enter the ranks of the middle class annually, and the trillions of new monetary claims that are forced into the system each year.
And this brings me to my final point of the public part of this report.
Scarcity
If we cast our minds forward ten years and think about a world with oil costing 2x to maybe 4x more than today, we have to ask ourselves some important questions:
- How many of our currently-operating gold and silver mines, or the base metal mines from which gold and silver are by-products, will still be in operation then?
- How many will simply shut down because their energy and associated costs will have exceeded their marginal economic benefits?
After just 100 years of modern, machine-powered mining, all of the great ore bodies are gone, most of the good ones are already in operation, and only the poorest ones are left to be exploited in the future.
By the time you are reading stories like this next one, you should be thinking, man, we’re pretty far along in the story of depletion, aren’t we?
South African Miners Dig Deeper to Extend Gold Veins' Life Spans
Feb, 2011
JOHANNESBURG—With few new gold strikes around the world that can be turned into profitable mines, South Africa's gold miners are planning to dig deeper than ever before to get access to rich veins.
Mark Cutifani, chief executive officer of AngloGold Ashanti Ltd., has a picture in his office of himself at one of the deepest points in Africa, roughly 4,000 meters, or 13,200 feet, down in the company's Mponeng mine south of Johannesburg. Mr. Cutifani sees no reason why Mponeng, already the deepest mining complex in the world, shouldn't in time operate an additional 3,000-plus feet deeper. Deep mining isn't easy, nor pleasant. The deeper a mine goes, the more at risk it is from underground earthquakes, rock bursts, gas discharges and flooding. And for workers, conditions themselves get progressively more uncomfortable from heat and cramped spaces.
South Africa is at the forefront of deep mining. Agnico-Eagle Mines Ltd.'s LaRonde mine in northwestern Quebec, one of the deepest mines outside South Africa, operates at about 7,260 feet below the surface. Before closing in 2002, Homestake Gold Mine in South Dakota was considered the deepest mine in the Western Hemisphere at about 8,045 feet.
(Source)
The above article is just a different version of the story that led to the Deepwater Horizon incident. Greater risks and engineering challenges are being met by hardworking people going to ever greater lengths to overcome the lack of high quality reserves to go after.
By the time efforts this exceptional are being expended to scrape a little deeper, after ever smaller and more dilute deposits, it tells the alert observer everything they need to know about where we are in the depletion cycle, which is, we are closer to the end than the beginning. Perhaps there are a few decades left, but we're not far off from the day where it will take far more energy to get new metals out of the ground compared to scavenging those already above ground in refined form.
At that point we won't be getting any more of them out of the ground, and we'll have to figure out how to divvy up the ones we have on the surface. This is such a new concept for humanity -- the idea of actual physical limits -- that only very few have incorporated this thinking into their actions. Most still trade and invest as is the future will always be larger and more plentiful, but the data no longer supports that view.
We are at a point in history where we can easily look forward and make the case for declining per-capita production of numerous important elements just on the basis of constantly falling ore grades. Gold and silver fit into that category rather handily. Depletion of reserves is a very real dynamic. It is not one that future generations will have to worry about; it is one with which people alive today will have to come to terms.
Protecting Your Wealth With Gold
For all the reasons above, it's only prudent to consider gold an essential element of a sound investment portfolio.
In Part 2: Using Gold to Protect Yourself In Advance of the Greatest Wealth Transfer of Our Lifetime we detail out the specifics of how much of your net worth to consider investing in gold, in what forms to hold it, which price targets are gold and silver most likely to reach, and which eventual indicators to look for that will signal that it's time to sell out of your precious metal investments.
The battle to keep gold's price in check is truly one for the ages. Not because gold deserves such treatment, but because the alternative is for the world's central planners to admit that they've poorly managed an ill-designed monetary system of their own creation.
Make sure you're taking steps today to ensure that the purchasing power of your wealth is protected, if not enhanced, when the trends identified above arrive in full force.
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think i read this in 2011, so far down 35% and counting...
Just wait till next year, when its down another 35%. At least thats what my cracked crystal ball says.
Who knows when this commodity slump will reverse.
and my NUGT investment is now down 94.5% ... if I sell now I can buy a warm Modelo and a razor blade.
Ammo seems like a good buy right now too.
Ammo is a better buy. Because a lot of that shit will be banned soon.
Was looking at how to make primers in case they decide to go that route of taking them away as well.
Making primers isn't illegal, just hard to do without the right tooling.
Bitcoin fundurmentals can scream far louder tahn gold.
https://localbitcoins.com
You are correct. I never factored in the Tahn variable. That changes everything.
it's not about the "price" of phyzz silver or gold in terms of all the worthless fiat currency flooding the world or the massively leveraged paper contract bullshit. Anyone who can't understand that has to get out of that paradigm and wrap their brains around what gold and silver will be worth in terms of trade for other valuable assets. How many acres will an ounce of gold be worth? Shit like that.
It's all about just stacking ounces now while we can for as little fiat as possible. Take advantage of the criminal manipulation of the fraudulent paper market and keep stacking those ounces high!
If anyone bought in the 20's then 30's, and even in the 40's, who fucking cares? You weren't supposed to spend dry powder that you couldn't afford to let go of. And at the same fucking time, if you were buying on the way down in the 30's, 20's, and now here under 20 down to 14 then again....who fucking cares!!??? You're dollar cost average should now be down around 25 an ounce or much less if you've been stacking at these crazy low prices.
I bought as prices were going up...and I've taken advantage on the way down. My dollar cost average on phyzz silver is now right around 20/oz and getting lower with every new purchase while they continue to keep the stuff down here around 14/oz.
So nobody should bitch about what they bought a few years ago. The whole point was never to sell in the first place in case anyone didn't understand what the fuck they were doing. The point was to stack and hold for the long haul. Fiat price doesn't matter right now. It's about having a fat stack after the monetary reset.
If any of you have been bitching or freaking out about the "value" of your phyzz here at 14 when you bought a bunch at 25 or higher, well then you never understood a damn thing and had no business buying any phyzz in the first place.
The phyzz was not an "investment"...it's insurance against the collapse of all fiat.
If you want to be a weak hand and can't handle the "numbers" then sell your phyzz at the LCS and go cry about it someplace else.
But don't whine about it here like a fucking pussy.
ZH articles focus about gold but you keep posting non-sequiturs about silver. And then you ad hominem attack people who post contrary to your non-factual opinionated comments.
"I bought as prices were going up...and I've taken advantage on the way down." Actually you foolishly bought a rising market and then threw good money after bad by continuing to buy as prices collapsed. Cannot you see the empircal evidence of the past 60 years: the silver market is cyclical and it prices out the marginal producer when prices are in single digits and then prices out the marginal consumer at plus/minus $50. If you cannot acknowledge that fact of economic reality then you are delusional.
I am continually surprised by how people are willing to publicly admit their mistaken views and then double down on those views on the internet.
When you rant about silver price levels do you not understand that when silver was demonitized, both in Europe and in the USA in the 1870s, its price relative to gold declined? And has subsequently declined for 140 years.
I have been fortunate over the years to know a large number of professional traders, both locals on the Chicago and New York exchanges as well as off-floor money managers. All of them are successful; none of them couch their views of the markets as do you.
Are you looking for something in particular? I have some ammo for sale. I really do have too much stuff around here.
Let me finish my new bomb shelter first. :)
In the mean time, it's too early to play the paper gold market. It shoudl correct to the $690-$970 area several times before skyrocketing when Yellen starts to sing "We ar the World" and announces they will buy anythign that any swinging dick decides to print and call a "bond".
"Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, bye!!!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny59kjNfuZA
Not unless you remove that filthy avatar, you look like le happy merchant there.
You have the anti-white "peace" sign which just means kill the Europeans for us to have peace. Hence it's an upside down version of the European rune for Yggdrasil, and the dollar the symbol of the means to our destruction.
Ive heard there is enough ammo to supply a two hundred year war in the States.. I have some. Should be plenty when the time comes. The trick is to hoard the shit no one else it thinking about. Certainly more abundant than gold.
Roll yield is a bitch. I still think TVIX has you beat.
Shhhhhh. Bear porn gets me horny.
Mmmmm. Bear porn. I need to get a Kleenex.
And life insurance ... what a waste of money. So far I've gotten zero return after putting in thousands. They promise it 'might' pay out, but when?
You'll get a great ROI when you're dead. That's the unfortunate catch.
I have been selling what is up and buying what is down......
i bought gold when the fundamentals were screamng at $1600 and $1500 and $1400 and $1300, so once again we're at the turning point of 'this cant go on forever'. Anyone remember "the PIIGS are insolvent", " the dominos have started to fall", ..Greece.., Swiss gold referendum, " QE to the moon". Chances are just as good we wont live long enough to see the "inevitable consequences" of fiat debasement.
oh, we certainly will see it, not just in our lifetimes, but in the next few years.
check economic indicators, we're already heading into the next deflationary bust, when it hits, that's when they will unleash "QE to the moon" as you put it, to try to counter deflationary effects.
Three precious metals: gold, silver, and lead
And steel. Without steel a rock works as well as lead.
Lead is heavy. I know.
Gold is gold and their is not much of it. A little at a time is the best anyway. I started stacking in 1999. I know the game. There is no doubt that I am a gold bug but anyone who tells you young folks to go all in is full of shit. Gold is a wicked market and silver even worse but you can play with silver a bit. Once gold is acquired, keep it. It is going to be 17 years and I have still have never sold any gold. Silver? Yes. Gold? No.
This article actually confirms that the paperprice will eventually go to zero.
I'd rather see the goldprice compaired to a bread and a nice steak.
This article also confirms that all the data in the world doesn't matter. If data mattered, gold would be priced a lot higher. It will still go down from here. Still, I'm not selling.
data certainly does matter.
it just doesn't matter as quickly as you might want it to matter.
I got a a question? Why have the miners been destoyed? they were higher 10 years ago! Gold is 100% since then!
There are a lot of miners who are doing just fine. But some miners over extended themselves becasue of soaring commodity prices and cheap credit.
However today, all commodity prices are down, a lot of miners are cutting costs and cutting back on new investment to try and keep margins. There's still new investment all expansion, just not at the same pace as 5 year ago. But this retraction and cost cutting sends a negative message to investors. (it's the opposite of some social media companies that have never made a profit, yet have astronomical valuations)
So the doomsayers, like the author of the article, crap on all miners and put them all in the same basket. So SENTIMENT in the market for all miners is down, regardless of financials.
The article wrongly states that all new gold production HAS to be $2000/oz. That's a bunch of bullshit. Sure there are low grade deposits that would cost that much if someone was foolish enough to try and develop it.
BUT there are also lots of smaller and mid sized discoveries that are in the $600 to $800/oz range. And the chart that there are only a couple "new" mines? Also BS. There are hundreds of significant new deposits. I see them at the PDAC conference every year. It's a mining conference and the biggest market for selling of new discoveries.
As for sustainable mining costs of gold, it is viable and the industry is changing to the reality of lower prices. Look at primary silver mines that have opened in the last year or two, that have costs of $6 to $8/oz and their costs are DROPPING.
Don't get misled (lied to) by people with an agenda and want to sell you something.
provide some links / evidence regarding your claim that there are " lots of smaller and mid sized discoveries that are in the $600 to $800/oz range." for gold, and "primary silver mines that have opened in the last year or two, that have costs of $6 to $8/oz"
frankly, i don't believe you, particularly based on your past track record of mis-information.
Gold is just being pumped waaaayyyy too hard for my taste. When something is being pumped this hard, there has to be a catch.
It only is in certain circles. I think 1% or 2% of the US population owns gold in a form other than jewelry.
Here is more info on why gold prices are so low:
http://michaelekelley.com/2015/07/20/dear-fed-plz-raise-gold-price/
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-09/are-big-banks-using-derivatives-suppress-bullion-prices/
When the dollar crashes and the price of imported goods skyrockets, well see the value of precious metals. When the fradulent Comex is broken, we'll see the REAL value of precious metals.
That ADVERTISEMENT has a few "facts" which it then blows all out of proportion. It was written specifically for gold bugs as a confirmation bias fairly tale.
Yes, buy, buy, buy, it keeps me very well employed.
But if you think that stack of gold is going to be your saviour in a global SHTF economic event? Nope. It wouldn't be worthless, but it's value will be EXTREMELY discounted compared to its relative value today.
How do you know gold will be discounted in a gobal reset compared to its value today? What is the factual basis for that statement? A: There isn't one. It is just your opinion because you don't like gold. That is your confirmation bias.
You are in denial.
Lets test your theory. In a worldwide economic shock, you say gold with maintain its value or rise. Tell me, what happened during the small, worldwide economic shock in October 2008?
Gold PLUMMETED. YOU'RE saying it should have risen? Why didn't it rise?
anopheles, are you a paid troll / shill / mis-information agent?
you keep coming up with statements and arguments meant to distort and confuse.
like this for example:
"In a worldwide economic shock, you say gold with maintain its value or rise."
he never said any such thing, you completely made it up 100%.
you are a liar.
Total Liar.
One critically important issue regarding USD and US Treasuries that the PM community consistently fails to deal with is their insistence that the USA is in effect bankrupt and that the USD and treasuries will be worthless (posted on ZH MANY times), ie USD stops being used and treasuries stop paying interest and no redemption at par.
Here is a harsh reality that cannot be sloganizingly ignored or just rationalized away:
The USD is still the global monetary reserve and transactional currency,
AND
US Treasuries are still the global foundation and reserve financial asset.
If the USD and US Treasuries became "worthless" in any practical sense, then the entire global monetary, financial, economic, and governmental system would collapse. That means collapse of all financial markets, collapse of all kinds of economic activities - including access to your vault safe storage of PMs (inside or outside of the USA), transportation, supermarkets, gasoline stations, power plants, etc, etc. The world would enter depression on a scale that makes the Great Depression of the 1930’s look like a festive prosperity party.
In this context, all your accumulated "stacked" PMs would be inaccessible and of no practical value even if they were, because the law of "commerce" that comes into effect under those conditions is people with weapons and the skills to use them just taking whatever they want from whoever has it.
So all the people who are investing in gold in the faith and hope that the existing system, ie USD and Treasuries, will become worthless, should instead be investing in weapons, ammo, self-sufficient farms, solar & wind power supplies, pill-boxes, bunkers, etc, NOT PMs.
I own a self-sufficient farm. If TSHTF like you PM cultists prophesize, and you show up at my farm trying to barter for real food with your shiny lead, then you had better have tons of it because I will require massive quantities of your shiny lead for even the tiniest amount of real food.
You would do MUCH BETTER bartering with me for real food if you come with things that have practical utility value in a survival situation, eg medicines, seeds, gasoline, solar panels controllers and wiring, wind turbines, fertilizer, tractor parts, motor oil, LED lights, rechargable batteries, tools, etc, etc, etc - BUT NOT totally useless shiny lead.
You will in the end though because it will allow you to buy things others have that you have nothing they want... Gold has been a simple, reliable form of trade for thousands of years.. Its a place holder reguardless of value.. It will hold its value just as good if not better than any other asset. PERIOD. Just because YOU wont accept it doesnt mean shit. Everyone else will be accepting it reguardless of what you do. Im sure if the grid goes down youll be giving discounts to people with Shit Coin?
It did well during the depression? Nothing that cant go out of business stays down forever and everything corrects. I only buy things that are out of favour because just like style, sooner or later they come back in style. Only fools cant see the value in gold right now and there are a shit load of fools. People could talk to me till they are blue in the face and it doesnt change the facts about sound or real money? IT NEVER WILL.
I remember having a pet rock in the 70s.....
Here is the scorecard:
PM Cult Prediction Reality
HyperINflation HyperDEflation
USA Treasuries abandoned, worthless Treasuries give HUGE profits
USD abandoned, worthless USD at RECORD HIGH
USA economic collapse + depression Stagnation at ~2% growth
PMs preserve "value, wealth" PMs DOWN ~40% + MORE
The ONLY people WORSE than the FED at predicting and forecasting the future are the witch doctors and PM peddlers of the PM cult.
Still the PM peddlers keep transmitting their fantasy, delusions and hype on overdrive, on TV, radio, billboards, web ads, blogs, etc, and many people who cannot afford the loss of their precious limited savings, ESPECIALLY THEIR IRA/401K, are still seduced and beguiled by the continuous hype about collapse, depression, apocalypse, etc into squandering even more of their savings on the zero-income free-falling LOSER that PMs are.
A lot of wordy support for a ‘no-brainer sure thing’.
If one asteroid of gold is seen headed our way, the price will crash.
This reads like a Good Novel, Chris.
"Gold With The Wind"
If you did what the PM peddlers recommended EVERY MINUTE over the last FIVE YEARS, ie bought PMs, then you have had ZERO income and HUGE capital losses.
If you did the OPPOSITE of what the PM peddlers recommended EVERY MINUTE over the last FIVE YEARS, ie bought US Treasuries, then you have had up to 4% interest income and HUGE capital gains.
Yes, this IS an IQ test.
Which would you prefer, interest income AND HUGE capital gains or ZERO income and HUGE capital losses ?
Shame on you for that whole truthiness thing you're doing.
I see a lot of people who have lost large amounts of money in hype scams that prey upon peoples' fears and ignorance, money that they desperately need for survival, especially in their old age.
and that's unlike the Market How?
It's going to happen right about the time they tell you that it's illegal to own and to turn all in immediately. High gold, or rather fairly valued gold, may very well be a black market the second it happens... we shall see.
The saddest part about the gold bulls here is that they won't be participating in the rally next year because they lost everything they own on the way down.
Get a bowl of popcorn and keep watching gold drop into the new year. It's a great opportunity - the more people bang on about it going up, the more it goes down.
This horseshit fundamental nonsense makes no difference - you can't change a trend baby, only time can do that and the time is coming.
The saddest part about the gold bulls here is that they won't be participating in the rally next year because they lost everything they own on the way down.
Get a bowl of popcorn and keep watching gold drop into the new year. It's a great opportunity - the more people bang on about it going up, the more it goes down.
This horseshit fundamental nonsense makes no difference - you can't change a trend baby, only time can do that and the time is coming.
$300/oz. Then it will rebound.
$54,455.oo/ozT makes me stinko rich!! :)
The last time there was a big concern about fiat and gold climbed to $1800+ at the same time silver climbed to $48+. Percentage wise silver was the better performer and this had nothing to do with the multiple uses of silver in industry. True, silver bullion will be a good thing to hold onto for it's eventual scarcity but it is also "money" in a much more spendable form. I admit I am a silver eagle fan but a bag of pre-64 is nice too.
What a Keynesian dumbass. So printing money is fine and causes no economic distortions or theft as long as the pace of printing matches the growth of goods and services? There is such a thing as "enough money" or "not enough money" that presumably some all-knowing economic planner must divine?
If goods and services multiplied by 17x since 1970, the money supply should be constant so that 6 cents today buys what 1 dollar bought in 1970. I.e., all productivity gains go to those who earned it by investing the fruits of their labor in the productive enterprises that actually created that 17x increase. Not the Fed, bankers, and gov because they have a printing press.
Unbelievable idiocy embedded in otherwise good writing.