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Trump Polling Lead Surges After Anti-Muslim Comments
Donald Trump, GOP frontrunner and self-styled anti-establishment candidate, knows how to entertain.
He also understands that he has built a political brand which garners momentum from the very type of controversy that would sink any other candidate in the field.
When you put those two things together, you have a recipe for bombastic rhetoric designed to hold the electorate in a perpetual state of shock and embed a tiny voice that says “you know, maybe he’s right” in the back of voters’ collective mind.
The genius of Trump is that he’s been remarkably adept at making voters question whether what he says is actually crazy or just sounds that way because Americans have been conditioned to recoil at anything that breaks decorum or sounds like it might not be “PC.” And that plays right into his message. He makes you wonder if it’s you that’s the crazy one. Perhaps you’ve been put in a stupor by years of watered down stump speeches and Trump is just speaking plainly and saying what everyone knows is true but is too scared to say in public. If that’s true, he’s a kind of nationalistic Morpheus trying to pull you out of a dangerous, misplaced multiculturalism Matrix. Or at least that’s what he wants you to think. It could be that he is exactly what his detractors say he is: a demagogue that’s stark raving mad.
As we said earlier this week, voters will ultimately decide what Trump is or isn’t and render their judgement at the polls and make no mistake, the Donald’s controversial suggestion that Muslims should be banned from entering the country has resonated with large swaths of the electorate and a new poll shows that in South Carolina, Trump has opened up a commanding lead since creating a firestorm on Monday.
“It’s no wonder Trump is leading,” GOP mouthpiece Fox News (which has had its differences with Trump this year) says. “He’s ahead among both those who prioritize national security and economic issues. He’s the top pick among voters on the two most important candidate qualities -- strong leader and, to a lesser degree, honest and trustworthy. Plus, he’s considered the most electable -- by a lot.”
The poll surveyed 437 likely Republican primary voters by phone from December 5-8. Here are the numbers at a glance:
- Trump: 35%
- Carson: 15%
- Cruz: 14%
- Rubio: 14%
- Bush: 5%
Don’t even ask about the rest of the field.
Here’s more from Fox:
There’s no gender gap in Trump’s support, as about a third of men (37 percent) and women (32 percent) GOP voters make him their first choice.
The favorites among white evangelical Christians voting in the GOP primary are Trump (34 percent), Carson (18 percent), Cruz (15 percent) and Rubio (12 percent).
Trump holds a wide lead among voters who say national security is their top issue. He receives 32 percent -- twice the support for Carson, Cruz and Rubio, who each get 16 percent among national security voters.
And those who prioritize economic issues back the same four candidates: Trump (32 percent), Rubio (14 percent), Carson (12 percent) and Cruz (12 percent).
[In a] 48 percent landslide, Trump got [the nod] when GOP primary voters are asked which Republican candidate is “most qualified” to handle the economy. No other candidate even garners double digits on this measure. The next closest are Bush and Cruz at 9 percent each, followed by Rubio at 8 percent.
Strong leadership is the top trait GOP primary voters want in their party’s nominee (26 percent).
Voters who say strong leadership is the most important trait are most likely to support Trump by a wide 23-point margin.
GOP primary voters think Trump is the Republican most likely to beat Clinton in the general election next year. Some 42 percent feel that way. Next is Rubio at 14 percent.
As for the Democratic ticket, the poll showed that as far as South Carolina voters are concerned, Clinton is essentially running unopposed.
And the punchline: "It looks like his [Muslin ban] comments helped him in South Carolina. Support for Trump increased eight points after his statement -- from 30 percent the first two nights vs. 38 percent the last two nights."
Trump is also surging in the national polls. According to the latest New York Times, CBS poll, Trump’s support among Republican primary voters has gained 13 pts to 35%, his highest level yet.
You can read all of the details in the document embedded below, or you can save yourself some time and just read these tweets:
Wow, my poll numbers have just been announced and have gone through the roof!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 10, 2015
I have decided to postpone my trip to Israel and to schedule my meeting with @Netanyahu at a later date after I become President of the U.S.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 10, 2015
Fox SC Dec 2015 Topline Release
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Islam fastest shrinking religion: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/islam-fastest-shrinking-religion-in-th...
"From Bush on..."? have a look at the very first foreign friendship and alliance of the United States of America:
the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moroccan–American_Treaty_of_Friendship of 1777
signatories: Thomas Jefferson and John Adams
Something tells me they would both just shaken their heads about this discussion. Just saying
following this treaty, the US Navy engaged in... Tripoli, Libya. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
you can see it as you want, the first formal ally of the US was a muslim
one of the first voluntary engagements of the US overseas was against... muslims
Obviously I'm referring to our current paradigm and our government's perspectives on Islam. The world has been at war with everyone since the beginning of time so its a far stretch to conclude America has been anti Islam any more so than any other group. Those who love war are not particullarly discriminate as its more of a whack a mole opportunistic endeavor.
well he said this so perhaps a little eye wash for the eyes wide shut crowd..
"Americans have been programmed to hate muslims ever since 9-11, why the backlash now? "
1. paris, all of me, boston, now california, and the shooting of soldiers in texas mass murder, constant mulla's saying death to america, and we are the great satan..
2. uncontrolled immigration with cries now for sharia in america from the muslim's now here
3. a better understanding of the koran by us who never needed to know about it prior to the NWO's mass immigration support.
4. muslims now in our communities and the dis respect they show all non muslims is less well hidden now. as their numbers grow.
how's that for an answer other than we are trained to hate by .gov
And by the content of their character so shall they be judged. Not by the color of their skin or which sky father to whom they kneel.
And in this case, it's pretty easy to judge that mohameddans have no place in a secular society. And since I happen to be a citizen, do not wish to live in a theocracy, have free will, and firearms -- I will not live in a theocracy. I will not submit. And my daughters will not wear burhkas.
In fact the odds are that the pendulum is giong to swing back so hard its going to knock a fucking hole in the wall.
Then we can get with the pogrom and make America great again.
GET WITH THE POGROM!
My brother in law is muslim. He says he never had any issues. People love him. He works in the construction industry in the south.
Who's been programmed to hate muslims? If anything it is the opposite. The gov goes out of its way to not cast shadows on anything remotely muslim. Look at the latest two murderous creeps in Cali; as soon as the media realized they weren't white, their attitude changed. Now they want to look at root causes and not rush to judgement. "the couple was radicalized" whatever that means. wasn't their fault, I guess.
You either administer the programming, or you take to it very well.
I bet you even, "feel the bern".....
oh, and I haven't heard trump say anything anti-muslim. When someone says he did, I know that that person gets their info second hand. Unfortunately, a lot of folks who write or report in public forums evidently get their info second hand, then pass it on publicly. You can easily see and hear what trump says, just youtube it. He said no more muslims alowed in. I have now heard that twisted into ,"he said if a muslim citizen leaves the country, he can't come back !!!!"
no.... he didn't say that.....at all.....
For a second there...I thought you were going to say he makes a 1 million bucks a month online...
"Americans have been programmed to hate Muslims ever since 9-11, why the backlash now?"
Nope, you are dead wrong ……....I think it is mainly due to the Islamists making about a zillion YouTube Beheading videos, 30-40 Gays off the roof Videos, 3-4 T-55 Tanks running over prisoner's heads Videos + the Video of burning a Jordanian Pilot alive that tipped the scales.
911 AND THE DANCING ISRAELI SPIES
http://youtu.be/QphxGBXiA-M
TRUMP WRONG ON 911 CLAIMS
http://youtu.be/flWqM5xLUPM
http://www.bollyn.com/public/Solving_9-11_-_The_Deception_That_Changed_T...
https://archive.org/details/MastersOfDeception
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it
http://www.voltairenet.org/article179295.html
Oh we're at war all right
http://www.voltairenet.org/article186019.html
http://www.mintpressnews.com/isis-israel-iraq-and-syria-its-all-part-of-...
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islam...
Thanks to a Zionist Occupied Government.
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I thinking a proper reading of the Quran, Hadith and Sira would do that.
Proud to be a kafir
Yep, The Donald has opened the flood gates. Now the little peeps get to have their say. Across the world too! Wait fro Sweden, Norway, even some Germans to slowly jump on the band wagon. France is already moving in that direction. And I am thinking it might even spread to Southeast Asia.
If only the semi normal Muslims had stood up to the radical nut-jobs years ago then things might have been a little different.
I assume that when you refer to "semi normal" you mean relative to western values, NOT the teachings of Muhammad in praise of Allah. Those following the Quran ARE normal to Islam. Those who choose to ignore the more violent leanings are the radicals, the reformers. Lets support them by encouraging (forcing if necessary) them to reject openly and vehemently those who believe that to kill in the name of Allah is supreme.
a true muslim who follows plainly what allah says in the koran would be doing EXACTLY what the "radical" muslims are doing blowing people and things up. it says it right there in their most holy book.
Show me a good Christian that follows all the teachings of the Bible, you know, stoning non-married virgins to death and not commiting adultry
I have no doubt that most people you meet will soon recognize your stupidity without you having to post such moronic drivel here.
Difference is no christian has stoned anyone for a couple hundred years.
You apparently know as little about Christianity and the New Testament as you do about the FIrst Amendment. You're not getting a very good education living under a rock as you apparently do.
Show me Christians that go around crucifiying, burning, beheading, enslaving, and torturing apostates. Christians that demand their own special Jesuia laws that violate all western standards for justice?
You can post your link right here:
Under my downvote. Fuck off.
And a Jew following their writings?
http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2014/04/non-jewish-soul-comes-from...
Who has more power over your media, government, and banking system again?
I bet you think two (or was it three) muslims with christmas lights and a new baby did the San B shooting and not say, oh, Craft International mercs (yeah, they 'shut down' lol)
And those two brothers did the marathon bombing and bin laden did 9/11 and you actually vote for the president.
These comments tend to show how richly deserves The Empress Hillary.
Which is who youre getting, dumb fucks.
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What the Quran-bashers Don’t Want You to Know About the Bible
http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/03/what-the-quran-bashers-dont-want-you-to...
The Laws Against Non-Jews in the Torah and Talmud
http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/shahak.html
God Loves the Smell of Burning Flesh: Human Sacrifice in the Bible
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined/2014/07/god-loves-the-smell-o...
How Israel protects its settlers who burn Palestinian children alive
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/how-israel-protects-it...
The Doctrine of “Superior People”
The Bond between Israel and World Zionism
http://dissidentvoice.org/2015/09/the-doctrine-of-superior-people/
Israeli Discrimination Against Non-Jews Is Carefully Codified in State of Israel's Laws By Dr. Israel Shahak
http://www.wrmea.org/1998-january-february/other-voices-israeli-discrimi...
When Israel Is Mighty
http://youtu.be/YSy6ENVAJlY
Deuteronomy 7New International Version (NIV)
Driving Out the Nations
7 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you— 2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally.[a] Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy. 3 Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4 for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you. 5 This is what you are to do to them: Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones, cut down their Asherah poles[b] and burn their idols in the fire. 6 For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession.
7 The Lord did not set his affection on you and choose you because you were more numerous than other peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples. 8 But it was because the Lord loved you and kept the oath he swore to your ancestors that he brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the land of slavery, from the power of Pharaoh king of Egypt. 9 Know therefore that the Lord your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commandments. 10 But
those who hate him he will repay to their face by destruction;
he will not be slow to repay to their face those who hate him.
11 Therefore, take care to follow the commands, decrees and laws I give you today.
12 If you pay attention to these laws and are careful to follow them, then the Lord your God will keep his covenant of love with you, as he swore to your ancestors. 13 He will love you and bless you and increase your numbers. He will bless the fruit of your womb, the crops of your land—your grain, new wine and olive oil—the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks in the land he swore to your ancestors to give you. 14 You will be blessed more than any other people; none of your men or women will be childless, nor will any of your livestock be without young. 15 The Lord will keep you free from every disease. He will not inflict on you the horrible diseases you knew in Egypt, but he will inflict them on all who hate you. 16 You must destroy all the peoples the Lord your God gives over to you. Do not look on them with pity and do not serve their gods, for that will be a snare to you.
17 You may say to yourselves, “These nations are stronger than we are. How can we drive them out?” 18 But do not be afraid of them; remember well what the Lord your God did to Pharaoh and to all Egypt. 19 You saw with your own eyes the great trials, the signs and wonders, the mighty hand and outstretched arm, with which the Lord your God brought you out. The Lord your God will do the same to all the peoples you now fear. 20 Moreover, the Lord your God will send the hornet among them until even the survivors who hide from you have perished. 21 Do not be terrified by them, for the Lord your God, who is among you, is a great and awesome God. 22 The Lord your God will drive out those nations before you, little by little. You will not be allowed to eliminate them all at once, or the wild animals will multiply around you. 23 But the Lord your God will deliver them over to you, throwing them into great confusion until they are destroyed. 24 He will give their kings into your hand, and you will wipe out their names from under heaven. No one will be able to stand up against you; you will destroy them. 25 The images of their gods you are to burn in the fire. Do not covet the silver and gold on them, and do not take it for yourselves, or you will be ensnared by it, for it is detestable to the Lord your God. 26 Do not bring a detestable thing into your house or you, like it, will be set apart for destruction. Regard it as vile and utterly detest it, for it is set apart for destruction.
Footnotes:
Deuteronomy 7:2 The Hebrew term refers to the irrevocable giving over of things or persons to the Lord, often by totally destroying them; also in verse 26.
Deuteronomy 7:5 That is, wooden symbols of the goddess Asherah; here and elsewhere in Deuteronomy
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Muslims would do well to become more ignorant of their holy book as the Christians have. Really, just adopt Western values (pre-Progressive push). The Koran is pretty long. I'm sure they can find justification for it somewhere in there, as we have.
When's the last time you saw a Christian stoning a homosexual to death? Or killing someone for eating meat on a Friday? Lots of crazy shit in that book, but we ignore the parts that are inconvenient to modern society. That is the best course for all religions based off of the ramblings of Bronze Age crazy people.
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One good thing I can imagine coming from all this insanity : we have enormous documentation of the events and people's reactions. At least if we can filter all the Hasbara crap.
So next time, the many studies of what propaganda memes work and how will be more detailed, and their actual effects on people of particular nationalities. Are Americans more gullible than the French, for example.
Now, we have to depend on the many quotes from the great propagandists about how easy it is, how governments always get their wars via false flags and hatred.
https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/281832.Joseph_Goebbels
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/propaganda
UK politicians sold out their constituients a long time ago. The last time I was in London it felt like I hadn't even left the sand box.
"stark morons" Good one!
Holy Hannah, No Debt, I'm misty eyed too...and I'm a Canadian!!! :D
I take back what I said yesterday in another comment where I made a "PREDICTION:" ..I will now update that prediction...
PREDICTION 2.0:
Trump will win, fly to Israel to meet with Bibs (because he just said so), THEN off to Russia to meet Putin (but also he wants to go to The Kremlin). Trump and Putin will meet for about 3 hours and all global economic issues will be solved! They will emerge from the meeting room with one male and one female Unicorn.
Trump will then return to the United States where he will have an Architect design "Trump Kremlin & Casino" for Atlantic City. :D
RFD
How can you say that?
Sounds like, “commodities at 15 year lows”.
You are evil, Bazza McKenzie....getting our hopes up like that!
Bill won't phone a "thanks"; that would leave a trail that could be followed...just because someome evil is in prison, doesn't mean they can't have a "negative affect" of a persons life outside of the prison walls.
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WARNING! Graphic thought!
IF Hillary ever winds up in prison, will Bill make conjugal visits to keep up the appearance of a "loving marriage" in case she ever gets out and decides to run for President?
If Hillary goes to jail, I doubt Bill will make many conjugal visits
The investigation that needs done is of 9/11 as a criminal conspiracy by Israeli-Neocons, a treasonous false flag operation against the American people.
9/11 was a False Flag operation by the Israeli-Neocons in the US Government
A fox poll on popularity of an Israeli-Neocon tool ...
Also, why is the relationship between Larry Silverstein, one of the principals in the 9/11 False flag operation, and Donald Trump, a fellow NYC Real-estate billionare who referred to Silverstein as 'my good friend', not being explored anywhere?
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"What America lacks is a figure with the serene self-confidence to tell us that the twin idols of national security and corporate power are outworn dogmas that have nothing more to offer us. Thus disenthralled, the people themselves will unravel the Deep State with surprising speed."
reference: Essay:Anatomy of the Deep State author-Mike Lofgren
Trump must be the guy the deep state worries about, even if it's just to form the GOP platform demanded by the people.
"Obama will pardon her.
Then Trump ........ Bill will phone Trump to thank him effusively."
BROTHER: TAKE NOTE!!!
This is the most popular comment I've seen on this site, ever. I've seen 80% of the more pupular articles on the site for the last five years.
Trump is, above all, a nationalist. That's why the globalist NWO of both parties hate him.
Trump is a spoiler.
You heard it here first. He is a Democrat and supports Clinton,
How?
He splits the Republicans, (check)
Leaving NO alternative to She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed.(check)
Eight more years
Eight more years...
(Who really pays attention anymore?)
Yeah....that's what they thought.
Welcome to the mind screw.
The media is all over Trump.
When the media is all over "San Bernadino" ZH-ers sniff out the fart.
Why so blind to Trump?
"Well Jim, if it reeks of guns and gold, we line up like lemmings"
Shame on you!
Fights, fury and the Ku Klux Klan: Finland faces wave of vigilante mobs targeting migrants as arrest of an Afghan asylum seeker for rape of 14-year-old schoolgirl pushes one town to the brinkBy Pekka Leiviska In Kempele, Finland, For Mailonline
There is a sense of tension in the pretty, snow-covered Finnish town - an underlying fear which makes parents hold their children a little closer, and angry resentment towards the group of young men who arrived just a month ago.
Kempele, almost 400 miles north of Helsinki, is usually a place where 17,000 unassuming townfolk while away the hours playing ice hockey.
But that peaceful existence has been ripped apart by the rape of a 14-year-old girl as she walked home on a Monday night a fortnight ago.
The alleged culprit is one of the young men living at a migrant centre, which locals did not want in the first place.
But far from being an anomaly, Kempele - which saw hundreds take to the streets in an anti-immigration march last weekend - has become a snapshot of a country where people patrol the streets in vigilante mobs, block people crossing the border and even dress as the Ku Klux Klan at angry protests against the influx of refugees.
The situation is not so tense in some parts of the country. MailOnline went 10 miles north of Kempele to Oulu where migrants at the Vallinkorva are living quietly and say they have been made to feel welcome in the town after fleeing the war-torn countries of Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq.
And the country's Prime Minister Juha Sipilä has offered newcomers a warm welcome - and even said they can use one of his homes in Kempele, where he was born, to use as emergency accommodation.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3343066/Fights-fury-Ku-Klux-Klan-Finland-faces-wave-vigilante-mobs-targeting-migrants-arrest-Afghan-asylum-seeker-rape-14-year-old-schoolgirl-pushes-one-town-brink.html#ixzz3tvWr7Pzqthe president has the authority to stop all immigration into america, it is not a constitutional issue.
many posting here are wilfully ignorant of American law and history..prior to 60's all immigration was put on hold- to allow prior immigrants to integrate into our society.
short memories make for very misleading anti trump posters.
Maybe it's finally a sign of them waking up.
Simple answer to mohameddans: If you don't want to be killed, then don't fucking come here.
I'm sick of their shit. And I'm sick of my government using them as a boogieman to destroy my liberty.
If they aren't here, they can't make terrorist attacks. After we deal with them, then we look for the traitors who thought it was a good idea to invite these inbred medieval savages to our civilized countries. They get special consideration.
Go FINLAND! Kill those mohemeddans raping your women and send the rest packing. Be an inspiration to your Euro-cousins.
I thought the pogrom woiuld start in Russia or Poland but hey, I read about that Finnish Sniper guy that killed 500 Russkies.
They can fight. And it looks like they will. Good.
I've got to wonder. The MSM, that seems to despise him, won't stop talking about him. WTF?
If they truly despised him they'd put him in the Ron Paul Blackout Zone.
The media love him because he's great for ratings... and because they know his real motive is to get Hillary elected, which is their motive as well.
if most everything else the msm (including fox) spews at us is propaganda, then why aren't all these polls propaganda as well? they are published to make people feel a certain way via electronic peer pressure. polls are as believable as the results that are spewed from an electronic ballot box...
polls are like statistics and statistics are like bikinis: what they reveal is tantalizing, but what they conceal is crucial...
everyone branded w as a conservative, but under his watch we got the most overtly repressive legislation in recent memory in the patriot act...
"The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them." Karl Marx
Exactly. how quickly everyone seems to have forgotten
Comparing Trump to Ron Paul is absurd.
Remember, Ron Paul was TERRIBLE for ratings. I loved him but he had the media presence of a dead fish. As far as the media was concerned, Ron Paul was bad for business, and bad for politics, so they lost interest.
The problem is, the media CAN'T put Donald into the "Ron Paul blackout zone". Because Donald turns the media against itself. Remember, the media is composed of two parts: the business side, and the political side.
The business side is in it to make a buck, and The Donald is making them rich. To say he is good for ratings is the understatement of the year.
Now, Trump has pitted the media's business guys against the media's political commissars. Until they can figure out how to get their ships sailing in the same direction, Trump is going to ride this tiger for all it's worth.
Trump is my president already. He's the only one who gives a damn about me. Whatshisface who's in the Whitehouse now is a lame duck pussy-whipped nebbish.
Trump isn't "splitting" the Republican Party, he is laying waste to it.
About time. Except for a brief interlude in the 1980s, the Republican Party has been largely useless ever since Calvin Coolidge left office.
Up voted, but to disregard Eisenhower is a mistake. I don't care about the high tax rates of the time. The dude saw the wealth transfer that was the Cold War MIC spending and called it out for everyone. For that single act he rates highly. Kennedy was on the way to finishing Ike's work before back-and-to-the-left.
Yeah, but I would take Eisenhower a lot more seriously if he hadn't waited until practially his last day in office to call out the MIC.
Au contraire!! Trump has yet to begin beating up on Hitlery yet!!!
Trump will evicerate her in a TV dabate!
I seriously thought Trump when too far with this "Musim Ban" thing but polls idicate otherwise!
She will not handle it -
there is too much meat on that bone - and Trump will be devastating - That is the real reason the establishment is scared - showtime will be the biggest the world has ever seen - Billions of People all over the world - will be glued to their TV
the clinton's are an open wound waiting for anyone with a scapel to slice and dice!
The Truth is like throwing a pail of water on these politicos.
Splits the Republicans?
Maybe splits the donors. But he doesn't need any money for his campaign. The voters LOVE him, and those few that don't hate Hillery a lot more than they distrust Trump. Trump is even pulling votes from traditional Democrat bastions like Unions and Mexicans.
Trump will never be elected
Clinton is First Lady.
(Inverse poll, please revisit in 2016)
Wrong.
Democrats love him (despite what you read in the press--Sucker!)
Oops!
A double-post was not intended...
Someone help me out here.
The door is that way ----->
Standard Disclaimer: As another ZH'er put it and I'm paraphrasing... I would rather sandpaper a bobcat's ass in a phone booth than ever vote for a Bush or a Clinton.
Democrats love him??? Are you high? Trump is driving them apoplectic. Ask any of your democrat friends what they think of Trump, and be prepared to weather the Two Minute Hate.
Exactly!! There is nothing more despicable and deserving of immediate termination than a goddamned NWO globalist.
Spot on. If Trump loses this election the globalists are going to take over for good.
They trust him because they feel that he loves America and wants
the best for it. He is the only one who talked us losing our manufacturing base.
He said once about China "someone said to me, you will start a trade war and I said GOOD"
Trump is a Nationalist, something we haven't seen in a long time.
i don't trust him, but I don't trust them more.
Both of us reached for the same word in our near-simultaneous posts- nationalist. Weird. Let's not make a habit of this. I hate when people agree with me. Usually means it's wrong.
Of course you are wrong ND...are you kidding? Trump, billionaire sociopath real estate, gambling mogul, misogynist, ultra egoist...nationalist?
Is it even you? Saying this with a straight face?
FVCK!
Mission accomplished.
Seriously Jim, this is pushing me into cognitive dissonance, watching ZH dissolve into a trumpteer cheering house....
On a long enough time line I suppose... ;-)
It's not so much cheering Trump the candidate as cheering Trump the monkey wrencher of America's terminally ill political scene.
If you can't enjoy Trump kicking the ass of all media and the phony political duopoly, you have no sense of humor.
Don't worry. You'll get the next "endless war president" who'll spout comforting double talk and fully support the empire.
For Christ's sake! he works for THEM!!! how can you take any satisfaction in that. It's like cheering for Larry silverstein.
I don't see the analogy at all.
What do you want? Another Ron Paul run where Ron drones on endlessly about an ideology no gives a shit about?
Poor old Ron with his 1% polls and a seat on the dumb fuck squad where the MSM ignores him, except when they lightly ridcule him?
Been there done that.
If Trump "works for them", they have been doing a pretty good job hiding it for 30 years. The media has portrayed Trump as a buffoon and vulgarian for literally every moment he has been in the public eye.
Compare that to how they have been reliably 100% in the tank for the Clintons during the exact same time frame.
Billionaire's don't work for anyone. Other people work for them.
Ori, it isn't that we love the Don per se, but, we love what he is doing to the press, what he's saying to stir the the pot. We love how he has divided his own party. The hand wringing by the establishment has gotten so pitiful, it's hysterical....BWAAAAHAHAHA.
The Don has upset many plans, carefully laid out plans, and now the puppeteers are in a quandary...no one counted on this or could have seen it coming. The masses are enthralled with the idea that they might actually have a leader who will walk up to anyone and say "your fired!"
We at ZH are grinning ear to ear at the major discomfort The Don is creating on a daily basis... And it is Grrrrrreat entertainment!
Doulble post.
Anybody who has paid attention to Trump over the last 30 years understands the following:
(1) He is entirely his own man. Not a creation of, or beholden to, any corporation, bureaucracy, or political party. Think about how unusual that is in 21st century America.
(2) He has always had an antagonistic relationship with the media and the east coast elites-- which puts him on common ground with the average American, who the media and the political and commercial elites have come to despise in the last 25 years.
(3) If you want to learn how to successfully manipulate politicians, bankers, bureaucrats, and union people, developing real estate in New York City is about the best training ground you could ask for. Given that the US is now run by a coalition of politicians, bureaucrats, bankers, and public service unions, Trump is about as well-qualified to serve as President as any man since George Washington. Sounds ridiculous? Think about it carefully.
(4) He went into the media business and learned how to beat the media at their own game. Think how crucial a leadership skill this is in the 21st century.
(5) He genuinely seems to love America as a land of opportunity. Which again puts him at odds with the corporate and political elite, who look at America as a land of social experimentation.
If you were really paying attention you'd know he has been a Clinton supporter for a very long time as well.
who's handing out the crazy pills around here?
It appears to me that Trump has "supported" just about every politician-- "democrat" or "republican"-- that he has needed to support to advance his business interests.
Trump, better than anybody, gets the joke.
"Keep your friends close-- and your enemies closer."
I always enjoy your posts Sarge. But I think you're misreading.
This guy simply played ball. He bribed them all R's and D's.
Clinton supporter? Only if it helped him in some way.
I agree with the comment above about Trump knowing the ropes and that's why the MSM/Corpgov are trying so hard to hurt him. They know he knows. And they know lots of Americans are waking up.
I'm apolitical but I sure do enjoy watching T make those liberals and SJWs squirm. He also is very effective at outing the cuckservative open border deficit spending free trade loving so called republicans.
And for that reason alone will I start wearing a Trump Shirt - he's a monkey wrench in their evil duopoly.
Spot on!
The Kid from Queens will be devastating for hillary
I trust NONE of them, just shopping for the candidate I think will do the least damage if that is not apparent I will not support the farce at all. Never have I been foolish enough to think a president can save me from the entrenched deep state. That is all
Then you clearly don't understand. you have no choice. The coup was complete a while ago.
You may believe there is no FURTHER damage to be done. I am not yet so naive, I try but cannot quite manage that jedi mind wipe..
as he manufactures his clothes in china
he's a hypocritical scumbag
You do what the system forces you to do. He has a right to try to change an unethical and destructive system which he is a part of.
It's like saying that a slave that has received food, clothing, and shelter from their master is hypocritical if he wants to be free, and wants his brothers to be free.
Unlike the MSM new anchor millionaire liars, the average american does not live in a gated community, and will not get tipped off to the next terrorist false flag. Moreover, we are endlessly inundated with fear memes generated to make us hate the muslim extremists.
So who can blame the average american shlub for not wanting to import alleged terrorists into the USSA?
funny, every time they do a false flag he goes UP.
Muslims should support him, he is scaring Obama out of framing them.
ahahaha
And, every time there is a false flag, gun sales go up.
I like to be in America
Okay by me in America
Everything free in America
(WESTSIDE STORY)
Hey Morrison, what was your dad up to in the Gulf of Tonkin?
While someone pissing in my oatmeal may not kill me, I find it in bad "taste" and reject it....nationally if I must.
Our whole fucking world is revolving round insurance....everything is about hedging, banking against loss. Our government's whole purpose in being is supposedly to protect us,
YET, when someone suggests that the importation of Muslims constitutes a threat, even a small one, it is rejected completely out of hand as some crackpot hater knee jerk reaction, and sadly it is those who would welcome these people WHO HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER AMERICA OR ANYWHERE ELSE, who would happily see those of us who resist, imprisoned or otherwise socially excluded from our own country. and it is their very liberal ideology that so many Muslims despise.
We are embracing thousands of Muslims into our country when supposedly they hate us for our invasion of theirs. Does any of this make any sense to anyone except those so buried in their Utopian ideology that they can't see beyond their blinders? At the very least, if they are going to attempt to live within these confines of delusion, they could at least develop a coherent theme to explain exactly why they are so willing to embrace those who they also believe hate us principally due to our involvement in their country and their religion.
"Hillary is also up in the polls: 78% (up from 69%) now think she'll serve hard time once Trump wins the election."
Reason enough to vote for Trump.
Now your talking Shock and Awe!
Hiliary
"What's that smell ? Does anyone know where that smell is coming from ? It seems to follow me everywhere."
"Maybe it's one of the staff."
"Maybe it's one of the staph."
There, fixed it for you.
holy crap! could that be his general platform he's been waiting to unveil once he has the nomination?!? can you image "the donald" standing on stage at rnc, accepting the nomination & saying: "I _WILL_ send hillary clinton to prison!!!"
Trump's genius, and it is genius, is that he uses polls on certain issues effectively.
When the results of polls on certain issues are greatly at odds with what "everybody knows" in the media and the political duopoly, he presses the issue.
He separates the people from their "handlers".
89% of the people expect Trump to put Hilary in prison? He'd run on that issue in some carefully veiled fashion.
If he gets that far. Which he won't.
If you want to invest successfully, you've got to indentify/understand waves and fast!
Trumps' wave pattern:
1. Say something crazy!
2. The press goes nuts, attention is 100% focused on Trump; other candidates wither on the vine.
3. A few days later, Trump "clarifies" his comments.
4. Press goes nuts! Everyone's talkning about Trump and the other candidates are still "not in the news"
5. Let the fury die down.
6. Say something Crazy!
Trump is in the news 24x7 while the other candidates are forced to do a "me too" or worse...like Carley the other day talking to a half asleep crowd about a "Flat Tax"...or Bush promising to "form a Global coalition to fight ISIS"...hillarious!
Obama and all the other candidates want the gun grab meme front and center right now.
Trump is pushing that meme to page 2.
Another reason to love Trump.
No one is safe. Anyone can be gotten to. The banks and their "employees" are everywhere. If he succeeds, he will be spoken to. If he succeeds, it is because he is allowed to.
if all else fails, they can fix the voting machines
Poll numbers can also be faked. If all our other news and numbers are lies, poll numbers can be manipulated to sway the masses...just saying
"When all else fails, we can whip the horse's eyes..."
Do you keep a book of pithy sayings by your computer?
Standard Disclaimer: You have heard of Murphy's Law. I follow Morton's Law — taking everything with a grain of salt.
Agreed. That precedent has already been set some 15 years ago.
bibi got snubbed..........whats up with that?
Yeah....I see what you're doing there.
The most interesting part of the story and no one brought it up.. If the Donald is not kowtowing to Zionists you would think there would be near simultaneous orgasms among the Jew haters here, but nada... Weird..
Congratulate yourself on being able to read to the end of the article.
Standard Disclaimer: Just for you: http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Orgasm_sounds
Sweet cheech, you keep puffing on that peter, I'll keep reading..
Sorry to disappoint your latent homosexual tendencies...
Standard Disclaimer: Anyone who actually has an active brain cell, caught that at the end of the article. But that would make an article all to itself. Let me get on the phone to Trump's campaign manager and ask him why he chose to cancel that trip.
And with a little bit of googling you could have found out why...
CNN and/or other sources...
Washington (CNN)Donald Trump said Thursday that he is postponing his trip to Israel, just a day after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu condemned his proposal to ban U.S. travel for all Muslims.
"I have decided to postpone my trip to Israel and to schedule my meeting with @Netanyahu at a later date after I become President of the U.S.," Trump tweeted.
Trump had planned to meet with Netanyahu December 28 in Israel, according to an Israeli government official, but shortly after the meeting was reported, Netanyahu's office condemned Trump's comments about Muslims.
"Prime Minister Netanyahu rejects Donald Trump's recent remarks about Muslims," according to a statement issued by the prime minister's office.
"The State of Israel respects all religions and strictly guarantees the rights of all its citizens. At the same time, Israel is fighting against militant Islam that targets Muslims, Christians and Jews alike and threatens the entire world," the statement said.
Netanyahu came under fire from dozens of members of the Israeli parliament for planning to host the controversial GOP presidential front-runner. They called on the Prime Minister to cancel his meeting with the billionaire businessman.
Standard Disclaimer #2: Let me know when Israel decides to take in refugees from Syria.
The Donald has made the banks take a haircut more than once. I don't see why he would have fealty to the banks.
"No one is safe."
That's right, so enjoy Trump now.
He's going to pay a heavy price for this.
Trump's resilience says more about the candidate offering than the voters. Those responding to the polls are likely sick of the SOS.
The GOP openly claimed that the voters don't vote responsibly and that the GOP controlled Congress would have to "fix things" because of it. Now the GOP has Trump to deal with. Karma.
Finland on the brink after Afghan assylum seeker rapes 14 year old girl
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3343066/Fights-fury-Ku-Klux-Klan...
765,000 sworn personnel
6.667 million Muslims
Muslims are no particular danger out of the ME, and there they are far more likely to kill fellow Muslims than anyone outside of that faith.
Real easy to understand the reality, but cutting through the propaganda and convincing people that Mark Twain was right "It is easier to fool a man than convince him he has been fooled" says Mark Twain was right.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/12/phony-mystery-west-gets-attacked....
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/12/vast-majority-muslims-hate-isis.h...
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/12/richest-man-world-rules-u-s-riyad...
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/12/isis-exists-double-game.html
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/12/worldwide-terror-incubator-san-be...
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/12/fear-terrorism-much-dangerous-act...
http://filmingcops.com/new-study-americans-58-times-more-likely-to-be-ki...
spam with rat in it
The Continuum of Depravity
With President Obama's Sunday night speech, and with the Pentagon's Ashton Carter's follow-up speech, the USA continues its long support for Sunni terrorists, this time in Syria.
Beginning with Jimmy Carter throwing in with the head-choppers of Saudi Arabia, to destabilize the then-secular government of Afghanistan (when women worked, and didn't dress in burkhas, check it out some time, historical illiterates), and the continued support of Sunni terrorists by Reagan, Bush 1 and 2, Clinton and now Obama, the US has recently spent over $1 billion to train thousands of ISIS and al Qaeda in Syria.
Yes, they were supposed to be "rebels" but as soon as their training was finished and their weapons handed them, they joined with either al Qaeda of Syria or ISIS.
Now, Obama wants to continue doing the same.
But some so-called newsy whorescum, or Atlantic Magazine whorescum, or academia whorescum, wishes us to believe that things aren't that bad, since we've yet to have had another 9/11 --- but since specific groups of people died aboard three of those five airliners (yes, five were meant to be operational --- read Lynn Spencer's book, Touching History), the operation planners, developers of remote piloting hardware and software, etc., it might be awhile before another such operation is feasible, after all.
This depravity must end --- no more support by the American taxpayer, or any corrupt and crooked American president --- no matter their deep man-love for the head-choppers of Saudi Arabia --- for the financing, training and arming of Sunni terrorists!
http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=47801
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/08/politics/amnesty-international-isis-we...
http://www.weeklystandard.com/a-missed-warning/article/2000125/
The Continuum of Depravity
With President Obama's Sunday night speech, and with the Pentagon's Ashton Carter's follow-up speech, the USA continues its long support for Sunni terrorists, this time in Syria.
Beginning with Jimmy Carter throwing in with the head-choppers of Saudi Arabia, to destabilize the then-secular government of Afghanistan (when women worked, and didn't dress in burkhas, check it out some time, historically illiterates), and the continued support of Sunni terrorists by Reagan, Bush 1 and 2, Clinton and now Obama, the US has recently spent over $1 billion to train thousands of ISIS and al Qaeda in Syria.
Yes, they were supposed to be "rebels" but as soon as their training was finished and their weapons handed them, they joined with either al Qaeda of Syria or ISIS.
Now, Obama wants to continue doing the same.
But some so-called newsy whorescum, or Atlantic Magazine whorescum, or academia whorescum, wishes us to believe that things aren't that bad, since we've yet to have had another 9/11 --- but since specific groups of people died aboard three of those five airliners (yes, five were meant to be operational --- read Lynn Spencer's book, Touching History), the operation planners, developers of remote piloting hardware and software, etc., it might be awhile before another such operation is feasible, after all.
This depravity must end --- no more support by the American taxpayer, or any corrupt and crooked American president --- no matter their deep man-love for the head-choppers of Saudi Arabia --- for the financing, training and arming of Sunni terrorists!
http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=47801
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/08/politics/amnesty-international-isis-weapons-u-s-/
http://www.weeklystandard.com/a-missed-warning/article/2000125/
This is so funny, MSM reallly tried to kill him over this and NOW he is incredibly
Stronger, thank you MSM. TRUMP is the CHAMPION! TRUMP is the CHAMPION,
the CHAMPION we need NOW!
Trump speaks the truth about a lot of things. Particularly Islam. It's only shocking to the evil fools in the lamestream media.
But, but, but ... the Muzzies are good and kind and loving and peaceful when they want to come into our countries. They're only evil when they live in foreign countries that we "need" to bomb. My presstitutes told me so.
... and we never fund terrrsts, but we do sometimes aid and advise freedom fighters. Can I have a cookie now?
All Trump has to do now is push all his chips in and say he wants to treat Islaminals like Charles Martel and Vlad Tepes did and it's all over but the swearing in.
How many moderate Muslims are on the street denouncing their brethren terrorists ? Lets get out of the Middle East.
Complete and total BS Israeli-Neocon propaganda, as above.
I have been reading a ton of comments, and see a pattern.
Hasbara replies are fairly easy to pick out, they have a few common tricks.
This seems a type. Single line, standard phrases like 'speaks the truth' and "evil fools in the media', lamestream was creative.
And, of course, MSM has been very largely doing what the Israeli-Neocons want, and our disgust with that is taken advantage of by this very nice one-liner.
I would say hasbara, tho I must admit it is my brain seeing a pattern tht may not be there. But you know, I don't meet nearly as many simple people in real life as I see here in ZH comments.
spam without so much rat in it
I'm a radical progressive --- never voted republiCON in my life, and last time I voted dem it was back in 1996 for Clinton and that was the LAST time (either Green Party or SAP, last time I voted for Dr. Jill Stein, time before for Cynthia McKinney) --- but I agree fully with Blue Dog's comments.
And the NY Daily News and the NY Times, both down with sharia law, called Trump a Nazi, so I pose this simple question to those rags, assuming there is EVEN ONE REMAINING REPORTER on staff:
Of the top 50 people at the CIA, how many had parents who were part of Adolf Hitler's Third Reich??
Simple question, if nobody has anything to hide. . .
Brilliant!
That's Eeeeeeuuuuuge!
YUGE!!!!
YUGE!!!!
Propaganda press can't even conceive that they have lost this one. Won't ever see a good accurate anger against the press poll or headline. Everyone knows press in the US is corporate owned and controlled down to the blue-eye blonde bombshells selected to spoon feed their feces to us. What a shame!
Lost this one? They have been wildly successful! Just read the coments here - including yours!
THEY GOT YOU BY THE BALLS
RIP George
If Trump continues to gain in the polls, he will not only be banned in the UK but throughout the EU. Already he was worse than Voldermort. Now he will be worse than Hitler:
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s call for a ban on Muslims entering the United States, either as immigrants or visitors, has ignited a political firestorm. Trump’s open appeal to the most reactionary, racist and fascistic sentiments has created a political crisis for the American ruling elite.
His crude rhetoric shatters the official pretense that America is the defender of “freedom” and “democracy,” which has been used by Democratic and Republican administrations alike to justify imperialist wars and interventions throughout the Middle East, Central Asia and North Africa. Trump rips off this democratic mask. He stands openly for the violent suppression of anyone who might dare to oppose the demands of corporate America, either abroad or at home.
This accounts for the volley of denunciations of Trump from a wide array of spokesmen for the US political establishment. White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said Trump’s proposal “disqualifies him from serving as president.” Earnest called his rhetoric “harmful to the country,” saying it made it harder to “work in partnership” with American Muslim leaders to identify potential threats.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/12/10/pers-d10.html
Obama couldn't have written it better himself.
"If Trump continues to gain in the polls, he will not only be banned in the UK but throughout the EU. "
imo a ridicolous assertion. I would not even know on what grounds
Re: banned in the EU...
Only until the Nationalists win the majorities in European elections....
no, seriously. on what grounds? for not being politically correct? that would perhaps be a reason for him not getting into the US of A. perhaps
Petition to ban Trump from UK hits 400,000
https://twitter.com/zerohedge
so? one country that speaks the same language as you and soon might or might not be part of the EU? is that the way you guys "understand" the EU countries? a quick look at what the Brits are doing? oh, my
here, the now closed petition to ban Islam in the UK: https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/51563
and here the open petition to ban Donald Trump from the UK: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114003
400,000 --- a rounding error!
Ask Michael Savage!
disclaimer: I do not follow much what the American media is talking about Trump
nevertheless, I had an interesting series of chats with other Europeans about The Donald (this one phrase of him made it to jump across the pond into our news), and we all noticed one thing: his sentence had two parts
in the first, he proposes a new policy: do not let the Muslims in...
in the second, he put a qualifier to the whole: "... until we know what the hell is going on"
and for some reason we all agreed that this part of the sentence is the more important one. after all, the first part could have been a "do not let *anybody* get in...", though of course the impact in the media could have been minor, in such a case
this article claims that that part of the American Public that finds the sentence striking a chord in their souls is fed up with PC and American Media bullshit. fine
I have the feeling that the second part strikes even more a chord. not being able to gauge myself, I ask here:
could it be that Donald Trump's phrase was that powerful because it says exactly what millions of Americans are thinking in the second part? i.e. "What the heck is going on?"
and what is the root cause of this? a lying press and media landscape? an utter feeling of not knowing anything about how the Rest of The World feels for America? what? theories welcome
The Genius of Trump:
I watched his video a few times. He is working the presstitute media like a $10 whore. His phrase was: "Donald J. Trump is calling for; ok you got to listen to this, this is, this pretty heavy stuff but its common sense, we have to do it. Remember the poll numbers; 25% 51%; remember the poll numbers. Remember this so listen. Donald J Trump is calling for a total and complete shut down of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on!to block all Muslims entering into the US UNTIL we know what the hell was going on."
English is President Trump's first language and so I think he structured this sentenance very carefully for maximum response from the media. He knows Americans care fuck all about what the rest of the world thinks about America...so he probably just earned about $200 million in media coverage for free because he knew the media would go into a feeding frenzy "listen very carefully".
Meanwhile, he HAS created a national discussion and he HAS put the "Moderate" Muslims on notice they need to start cleaning their own house or he will when he is POTUS.
Bonus: his poll numbers are rising as people ask, "hey, maybe he is right about this."
I think the reason many Americans agreed with this sentence was the first part, and only to a very small extend the second part. The 'what the hell is going on' question is nontheless essential of course but if people ever seriously started asking why, or what, we'd have a revoluation at our hands. And here I'm not just quoting the famous phrase about money creation and monetary policy.
So no, as most of the time I disagree with you Ghordi, the second part is a good add on but it certainly wasn't the trigger that struck a chord and that you can judge by the angry response from MSM and prominent heads who also ignored that 'second half' of the sentence.
wouldn't the very absence of mention of the second part by angry MSM and prominent heads responders be an interesting fact all for itself? isn't the second part the one that really, really attacks the American MSM... directly? by claiming that they disinformed the American Public?
Yes now I agree! :) But I doubt too many people will think it through like this. If Schäuble tomorrow said "We need to kick those Greeks temporarily out of the Euro to figure things out", what would the European press be focusing on, the first or the second part. I know it's hypothetic but this example suits in so many cases.
not here, imo. any european minister in power since more then three months would be out inside of one day just for uttering such a second part
we are, after all, the continent that has a soft side for technocracy and technocrats, i.e. the "knowledgeble", the "experts". even when it's only a pretense, mind you
the same applies for a minister saying "we have to apply this law to see how it works out"
compare and contrast with something that leaves us completely cold or even nodding, like "when things become serious, it's my duty to lie"
we aren't alike in many things, I guess, and this is indeed visible in the kind of people we elect. starts with how ugly some of ours are