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Trump Takes Nation By Storm: More Americans Agree With Muslim Ban Than Reject It
In case you were confused how it is that Donald Trump's polling numbers could increase following his Muslim-ban comments (which have beeen widely denigrated by any and all talking head who can fog a mirror - from The White House down...), here is the "surely not us?" answer.
As The Hill reports, a new post-Trump survey by Rasmussed finds that 46% of likely voters would favor a policy preventing Muslim immigrants from entering the country until tighter screening procedures can be implemented, while only 40% would oppose such a measure.
In direct opposition to what The White House said (that Trump’s proposal is "totally contrary to our values as Americans,") it is apparent from this survey that the Obama Administration does not know its 'constituents' as well as it may have thought.
Simply put, based on this poll, more Americans - republicans and democrats - support Trump's idea of banning the entry of Muslims into America than oppose it, and now that it is 'polling' as a populist idea, we await Hillary Clinton to jump on the bandwagon.
Wow, my poll numbers have just been announced and have gone through the roof!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 10, 2015
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From the beginning of time...FEAR works...sad
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Substitute "Trump" for "ANEL":
After many years of observing such outrages and being unable to do anything about them, the public have had a great deal of tension build up in their minds, and this is no accident. The Occulted Powers have intentionally created this tension so that it can be released at a time, and in a direction, of their choosing. This article, and a million more like it, reflect that strategy.
On its surface, the article presents the “Left” (represented in this case by Syriza) in a favorable light while denouncing the “Right” (represented in this case by ANEL). But if we look beyond the surface to the psychological subtext, it is actually associating Syriza with the things that are causing outrage in the public mind while associating ANEL with the public themselves. Putting it a bit more plainly, the article is promoting these mental associations:
Syriza and the “Left” = all the outrages that have been pissing you off
ANEL and the “Right” = YOU, because like you, ANEL stand in opposition to the outrages and are being marginalized and demonized for it.
So what articles like this actually do is get the battered public to identify with the battered political party / political figure that is out there saying what the public wants to say and doing what the public wants done. And when the “Left” finally collapses and the “Right” stands up to “save the day” (per the NWO script), all the tension that has been building will finally find its release. - http://redefininggod.com/2015/03/the-illuminati-strategy-of-tension-and-...
This country was founded upon Enlightenment principles. Until Islam goes through some sort of "reformation", the cultural differences will be impossible to bridge.
Let's ask a Founding Father about that.
Trump = Winning
People keep underestimating him, people keep being shocked by his success. Even after 50 years of him riding into countless cities kicking up a humongous firestom and riding out with the prize... people still think he is dumb, thin khe blurts stuff out without thinking, people think he is rash.
Trump is a super cool, strategic machine, everthing he does is calculated. Everything is part of a bigger strategy. He is focused on one goal. One goal.
One goooooaaaaallllll!
Trump is the perfect politician for Jerry Springer nation. Can't wait for the last minute Dem spoiler candidate, Rosey O'Donnell.
What a show it will be. And all the dumbasses will line up with their retarded reasons why Rosey is better than Teh Donald.
Har!
This is not a surprise at all. There is a huge percentage of people in this country that hate others strictly based on their race or religion. This is nothing new. What is different now is the ability of false information to be spread very effectively due to the fact that most people are too lazy and/or stupid to do their own research to form their own opinions. Trump has identified a weakness in the minds of the average American voter and he's exploiting it to his gain. Too bad most can't see this.
Why don't we enlight some muslims?
The old fashion way:
http://www.thepornster.com/video/380/arab-slut-gets-converted-to-anal-sex
All of the lefties are scared and offended from what I see in these comments.
Yep, those who want to bring down the hammer of big government on those who have committed no crime certainly do seem frightened of something.
Once you are scared you loose your sense of decision. you do what your are told to do.
Speak for yourself.
so how does mr trump suggest that us customs will determine who is a muslim and who isn't?
will they just ask and hope they tell the truth?
will they install muslim detectors at every airport gate?
i'd like to know.
I don't agree with Trump. We shouldn't discriminate against just mugloids. We have the right in every conceivable way to deny access to our country for fucking reason we see fit at any given time and against any people we choose.
So we actually need to deny all access to ever person world-wide while we work on deporting the millions of illegal invaders the traitor in chief allowed into the country.
its not unconstitutional. They are illegal and foreign so our Constitutional rights do not apply to them.
So make it apply to everyone for say 5 years. And sort out all the scumbags at the same time.
You chose to do nothing when your "Government" (chosen by you) decided to bomb their countries "back to the Stone Age" - so you will expect retribution. The longer the delay, the more extreme (as your ongoing ME carnage continues, pretty much unabated).
The solution? (now of course too late) - mind your own business. Obviously "not the American Way", so expect the consequences of your actions. Think "they'll forget"?? They still remember the Crusades, so their long term intergenerational memory is excellent. They neither forget, nor forgive, and their methods of retribution, though brutal (in the eyes of the West) are remarkably effective.
excellent points all. remember the majority support bush had for the iraq war to punish saddam for 9-11?
the ignorance and fear of the "majority" of the u.s. is astounding still. they elected and reelected bush and obama for goodness sake.
not that much of it is left, but this absurd idea of banning religions is wildly unconstitutional.
more u,s. citizens are killed by lightning than terrorists.
stop killing the muslims and mavbe they will stop killing us. ya think?
what would you do if the u.s. were less powerful and some nation had been bombing it rather indescriminately for years because they wanted a pipeling to say alberta?
All of the lefties are scared
Good.
Regardless of who wins the election, as Tyler is wont to say, America will get exactly the president that it deserves.
At what point did controlling immigration become a violation of the first amendment protection of religion? Under that logic attempting to control the flow from our southern border would be an act against the Catholic Church. Citizens who happen to be Muslim are protected under the first amendment. They have the right to believe and worship as they wish. They do not have the right to break the law or replace our legal system with sharia law. The first amendment is not a guarantee to some imagined right to immigrate.
The Southern Poverty Law Center set the precedent on how to deal with domestic terrorist in their case against the United Klans of America. When an organization provides the forum for a call for murder, that organization becomes liable for the acts of adherents and sympathizers who heed that call. As I recall as a result of that Klan case, a black woman wound up with keys to the United Kan’s headquarters. Under that precedent, any mosque that provides a forum for a call to murder should be sued and bankrupted.
Woah - I've been giving you way too much credit over the years - or did you suddenly go full retard on us recently? If I understand it (and I'll bet a fat stack of American fiat that I'm right), the actual action in question is a temporary moratorium on refugee immigration from Muslim nations. How that morphs into what you wrote above is a case study in media manipulation of weak minded "citizens". Here, have another steaming cup of narrative. What, you expected two girls as well?
I find it hilarious that alot of the same people that supported GWB and the Iraq/Afghanistan war are now incensed that the terrorists are angry at us and we must stop and kill all of them. ha. Alot of the top guys in ISIS are former Iraqi military. Great idea electing Bush, huh. Twice!
Wow, what a hol-e-y argument...
The solution "mind your own business" - well, you should have told that to Muslims 1200 years ago when THEY started invading Europe and the Levant. They started this BS with their "convert or die" philosophy. Islam has been at war with Western Europe for over 1,000 years, with periodic cessations of hostilities, but the pot has always been simmering. After the Enlightenment, Western science outstripped Muslim efforts a hundred-fold, and Islam became nothing more than an occasionally pesky irritant on the civilized world's SE border. However, the discovery of oil changed all that, and provided the Muzzies with enough money and power to become a threat, which the Saudi goat-herders have been pushing through their funding throughout the world.
The West, being until recently at least nominally Christian, was willing to 'forgive and forget' Muslim atrocities, but apparently mercy and forgiveness are two virtues absent from Islam. So, if the Muzzies want "retribution", I say: BRING IT. The West is very near the tipping point. A couple more refugee rapes, a couple more mass shootings and bombings, and Islam better start running for cover.
alot of us wouldnt be here if the US didn't allow immigration after WWI(among other times). The Europeans were thought of inferior, they were stealing jobs, they were communists, had different religious beliefs, they were dangerous. How quickly we all forget.
Have them color in a caricature of the "phophet Mohammad" screwing a young boy using a crayon. If they're willing to do that, they're my kind of Muslim so let them in!
sounds like coltrane.
There is no mandatory requirement to import the world to the US. Shut down all immigration and visa issuances from nations with large percentages of Islam. At this point, we'd have to figure in Sweden too.
Why is there constant insistance that we have to maintain open borders to every nation in the world
This would be very easy to accomplish if Uncle Fraud wasn't corrupt.
I'd be willing to bet good money we'll have another Islam mass killing in the US between now and election day which will of course give another massive boost to trumps campaign. Islam followers can't help themselves. The siren call of 72 virgins beckon.
Umm, make them eat a Ham sandwich?
LOSE asshole! It's fucking spelled LOSE!!! FUCK YOU and all like you. LOSE!!! Learn how to fucking spell!!!
Shaddup ya big looser.
certainly is passionate about correct spelling. makes you wonder if there's something more . . . .
Because "loose asshole" reminds us all too much of Obama.
Look, I understand that ZH is the last bastion of unfettered free speech and all, and that it is your right to post links to porn sites here.
But just as you have a right to post links to porn, I have a right to complain about it. You are a worthless piece of shit for posting this kind of trash. You have confused liberty, which is self-governance; with license, which is two dogs fucking in the street. But even dogs have an innate sense of decency, and only do what comes naturally. You on the other hand, know better, and so your crime is worse, for dogs cannot be perverts, but you can be, and are.
I hope others share my sense of outrage, and that you, and all other porn-posting scum are shamed to such an extent that you will slink away, never to be heard from again. You really are a crass, classless asshat.
look i agree its inappropriate - that said - outrageous? - that is subjective - what is clearly outrageous is the - Presstitutes - as coined by Mr Roberts and their treatment of Trump who has legitimate position that should be debated not denegrated
Unfettered speech is a rare treasurer - especially when accompanied by an abundance of intellect - the transitory out of bounds should be tolerated in the interest of destroying - politically correct!
Yes, I for one agree and I've noticed a surge of trashy trolls on ZH recently. I hope it's not the first wave of hired trolls/scum intent on taking down ZeroHedge or turning the comment section into incoherent babble such as what happens to most news aggregation websites (eg; Digg, Reddit, etc).
You have all means of blocking the stuff e. g downloading Ghostery for Google or Firefox. My browser is not plagued by porn sites unless I had an urge to go there, your choice.
"all other porn-posting scum are shamed to such an extent that you will slink away,"
Really? You think people still have shame when living in a collapsing fascist third world police state? Did you watch the video until the end before you decided to get offended? How are two dogs fucking in the street not perverted? Why don't they get a room?
Humans have been putting the pencil in the other hole for thousands of years either by drunken mistake or willingness experimentation. Just the same as your parents did.
God, Alah, and Flying Spaghetti Monster bless you and have a safe and blissful day!
P.S. zerohedge is far from the last bastion of free speech they are owned by ABC.
may the flying spaghetti monster touch you with his noodly appendage as well.
but, you should be aware that the ABC you metion (ABC Media, LTD) is not the ABC of 'murcan tee-vee, seems to be a media company registered in bulgaria.
speaking of bulgaria: http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/five-supreme-court-cases-seco...
McC - Your post was so out of the blue and so passionate, it nearly blew my jaded, cynical mind. Just to clarify: are you against the posting of links to porn or porn itself? Or the particular video? Inquiring minds want to know...
Regarding the topic at hand... banning Muslims simply cannot be operationalized. Anyone with an IQ north of 90 knows this at heart, but goddamit if it doesn't feel therapeutic for a sloganeer like Trump to say it! And say it again, and again..
Shit, probably half of everything Trump promises cannot be operationalized. Kind of like the 8th grader running for school president who promises more snack bar choices and more cola vending machines. Now there's a true asshat.
That said, I'm voting for Trump. If he gets elected, he will be the perfect catalyst for burning down Rome, so the people can begin rebuilding four years later. Trump 2016!
"banning Muslims simply cannot be operationalized"
correct, not without a lot of very, very awkward measures, at least. like having to walk over crosses in the way Christian martyrs were found out in the 3rd Century
now the question I pose is if Trump is going to use this surge in popularity for a new proposal that can be operationalized
for example: "no immigration at all"
I am though still more interested in his qualifier: "until we know what is going on". still very interested to see if he is going to expand on that
when being muslim is illegal, only outlaw muslims will be legal. or something like that.
and p.s. if by "until we know what is going on" he/you mean why some muslims target americans for violence i vote for eternity/never.
or, wild guess, until we stop arming israel and, on our own, attacking muslim country after muslim country for reasons that become harder and harder to explain much less justify.
While I agree that it's gotten trashy, no one said you had to look at it, no one made you click on the link...you knew what it was based on the link, it's your choice not to look at it.
Holy shit
That was fucking awesome hilarious ! Just took a slug of some good brandy and spew it all over my iCrap! Ii wanna party with you man, the stories you tell like the time your friend made it with that goat !? I wanna party with you cowboy! Yeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwww
Oh, good Lord. I see them too, see the URL, know it's porn, and don't click. How hard is that?
It's a lot less offensive than, say, Rosie O'Donnell pontificating about.. well, anything.
Free speech unfortunately includes the right to offend. I agree with you, the guy's an idiot for posting that crap here, but geez.. have some perspective. With all that's wrong in the world, why worry about some jerk-off (accurate term for guys who watch porn, doncha think?) who is clearly looking for attention?
Goodbye.
This is actually called, "respecting her virginity until marriage."
"What is different now is the ability of false information to be spread very effectively due to the fact that most people are too lazy and/or stupid to do their own research to form their own opinions."
The Koran explicitly calls on muslims to wage war on non-muslims.
Read it for yourself; it's not that long. About half is peaceful stuff and the other half is a guerrilla manual.
About half is peaceful stuff and the other half is a guerrilla manual.
Kinda like the Bible then? Lots of swordplay there.
There is no compulsion in religion.
-- Quran 2:256
Say, "The truth is from your Lord": Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject it"
-- Quran 18:29
And if your Lord had pleased, surely all those who are in the earth would have believed, all of them; will you then force men till they become believers?
-- Quran 10:99
For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.
-- Quran 109:6
Therefore do remind, for you are only a reminder. You are not a watcher over them;
-- Quran 88:21
He said, "O my people have you considered: if I should be upon clear evidence from my Lord while He has given me mercy from Himself but it has been made unapparent to you, should we force it upon you while you are averse to it?
-- Quran 11:28
Fuckin convert already, Billy....shit, as much as you proselytize you deserve a check from rhyiad. What the fuck has become of the west...our people are not only self-loathing sissyphants, they advance our enemy's cause. It's disturbing.
Janus
I'm protecting my culture which is one of free expression and natural rights domestic enemies notwithstanding.
You are not protecting anything. You are posting inane comments on a website.
Come and take it.
Sure, what's your address??
With that phrase, the only address it can be is TX.
Didn't ask for it. Don't want it.
I think fear makes people go bat-shit fucking crazy. Bottom line is simple, People kill people...not guns, not religions. It's fucking depressing to see how stupid some people become when their panties are in a bunch over media-hyped hajis in the wood pile. Keep up the good fight, Billy.
1) Very similar to the old testament as it has the same root and absolutely nothing like the new testament.
2) Don't cut and paste quotes that have been pre-selected - read it yourself and you'll find you've been lied to.
I have read it.
and interpreted it the same way cnbc does their soundbites
you know.. this brings up a great question ive had.
is it bad to exploit weaknesses to accomplish a truly good goal?
you're wrong...for one.
and you speak of "false information"...but you don't have the guts to mention what you think is false.
Here's what I believe...anyone has the right to any religion. I don't care if you pray to cat. It's your right. When you start believing anyone else who does not pray to their cat deserves to die, or should die, or anyone who teases you about cat worship deserves to die (Southpark Episode pending) then...you do not deserve to live in this country with civilized people who respect others. You are a threat.
And if you are suggesting that Islam is a religion of peace then you are the one who needs to stop being lazy and performing all your research in a 5 minute google search on loving muslims.
Yeah, the weakness is in the liberals mnds that we need unlimited immigration and breeding to maintain the social welfare Ponzi in this country.
There is a HUGE percentage of people in this country that hate the US and the principles this country was founded on. They hate freedom and liberty and want to import as many derelict, worthless f&cks as possible to expand wealth redistribution and to tighten the chains on the American slaves already here.
Why the liberal traitors want to do this (shoot themselves in the foot and cut their own throats) is a massive mystery to me.
I think what we the people hate, is someone trying to kill us. Religion and skin color doesn't bother us, it is the killing that isn't right.
He's preparing the ground to rightfully blame and ban the Jews. They know it and that's why the jews are opposing him. Only a clown believes that Islaam is responsible for any of the false flag attacks on western people since 9/11. Unfortunately Americans will nont be able to travel abroad anywhere soon as the rest of the world hates their guts. Trump is the logical corollary of the false flag activities, but the zoharites are too dumb to have appreciated the fact. Now it's an out of control rising power that is coming to consume them. Give 'em enough rope.....
1. anti-semite
2. islam apologist
3. know-nothing america blamer
4. raciss (since you think the american people are their .gov)
The treaty was a cessation of hostilities and John Adams words were directed toward those who might seek to leverage one religion against another. The violence being stopped was the "Musselmen's" activity of pirating.
Two very different things.
"....to the shores of Tripoli..."
why the downvotes for nmewn?
No idea, I guess they stopped teaching world history about the time they stopped teaching civics class in favor of home ec...lol.
As a student of world history you certainly know that Islam had a golden period which lasted hundreds of years which in part help to spark the Renaissance in Europe. Therefore logic tells us that there is nothing implicit in the Islamic faith which precludes rationality, tolerance and enterprise.
That would have been after...WHAT...exactly...CONQUEST?
So you're sittin around thinkin, the invasion of foreign lands, the subjugation of its native peoples (along with the lovely practice of raping, enslaving & the general pillaging) to then find the time to build mosques and libraries on top of their shit is some sort of qualification for a righteous civilization?
Well, where do I sign up?...lol.
And don't hit me with the Saladin great "ruler" bullshit he was actually...wait for it...a Kurd, not an Arab ;-)
Today, they just blow shit up and kill people.
That would have been after...WHAT...exactly...CONQUEST?
Doesn't it crowded at your house with all those Native Americans living there?
lol...naw, if I remember right, the Yuchi and Yamasee came down from the Carolinas along with the Creeks from north Georgia which beat the hell out of the Calusa & Mayaimi tribes for some inexplicable reason (land or enslavement or sumpin, cuz they were "the good guys"...lol) with the help of the Spanish and after that the Brits won some war somewhere else and the Spanish had to give Florida to the Brits but by that time the aforementioned "Native Americans" had mingled with the Choctaws to become the Seminoles.
Well long story short, the place was kinda vacated when I got here ;-)
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A few didn't enjoy my recitation of REAL HISTORY?
Apparently believing their indoctrination that the tomahawk and spear were only used by "Native Americans" for...cutting down tweees for roasting weeenies on their campfires and spear fishing?...lmao!
mnewm +100
Back in high school, I picked up a book that one of the teachers had tossed in a pile.
"free for the taking"
A History of Torture, by Daniel P. Mannix.
Chapter 13-15: Exile as a form of punishment in the 19th century (e.g. to America and Australia). Methods of torture in the east (i.e. China, India, Turkey), the Americas (e.g. native Americans and Aztecs) and Pre-Colonial Africa (i.e. Benin, Kano).
Standard Disclaimer: Yes. rather gruesome...
Yeah, it is interesting how the mind will trap some things that fit & discard the things that don't fit in an effort to make "the overall thing" appear to be something that it is not.
For example, we went to Lamanai on a recent visit to Belize. Our Guatemalan guide explained this game that was played among the Mayans where, from an early age a young man was picked to be the captain of that teams village, a very high "honor".
Well this game (with a ball) being played between cities/villages could go on for days or even weeks and all either side had to do was score 1 point to win. After the game was won the losing captain placed his head on the flat rock at the center of the ball court/arena where the game was just played and he was decapitated.
The "winning captain" turned and walked up the steps of the temple where he was sacrificed by a priest to a Mayan deity.
Quite the "high honor" I was told (lol) but thats just the way they did it ;-)
Amazing. That's a cute summary. Humans can rationalize and revise anything to fit their moral relativism.
Whatever makes you feel superior. Your conquest = ok Someone else's = not ok
Right?
I usually agree with you, but this is the digvtsugi comment of the day.
Oh, and war CLUB is the word you're looking for. People really don't understand native territorial disputes and how they were solved.
Careful now, I have a couple drops of Creek blood in me from my Mom's side, you wouldn't want to microaggress a "Native American" would you?
#MyLifeMattersToo ;-)
Not true. The Arabs conquered a huge swathe of what used to be the Roman Empire including the richest and most advanced bits. The Arabs didn't do anything. The pre-existing advanced bits slowly died after the conquest.
Americans owe directly to the Saracens our southwestern and Californian architecture, our cotton industry, our asphalt paving, and a long list of such things as beds, table and bed linens, small occasional tables, strawberries, ice-cream. Americans speak Arabic when they say, mattress, sofa, cotton, talcum, sugar, coffee, sherbert, naphtha, gypsum, benzine. Our cars run, our streets are paved, our houses are furnished and our bodies clothed with things that the Saracens created. The Christian kingdoms in the Saracens' world lasted less than a century. The heirs of their Crusading founders became indistinguishable from the Moslems in their customs, manners and dress, as the other Christians were in that civilization.
Then the Moslem emir (who was a Kurd) proposed an alliance with England. He offered his sister in marriage to Richard the Lion-Hearted, who was crusading at the time. But Richard intended to return to England, and sensibly he refused to take home a Moslem Queen.
Since the Christian King would not make peace, the Moslems attacked and took Jerusalem. They did not sack it, and as soon as its defenders surrendered, they released their prisoners. The terms that the victorious emir imposed upon the invaders were, that they must go home. He gave them forty days in which to dispose of their property or pack it before leaving.
During the forty days, the people in Jerusalem bitterly complained to the emir that the departing Christians were seizing everything they could lay hands on. They demanded that the emir stop this plundering. The emir replied, "If I stop them, they will say that I have broken my word. Let us give them an opportunity to praise the goodness of our religion." He let the people in Jerusalem protect their own property as best they could, and the Europeans got away with quite a lot of loot.
But the returning Crusaders brought back to Europe the first idea of a gentleman that Europeans had ever had. Until they invaded the Saracens' civilization, they had never known that a strong man need not be brutal. The Saracens were splendid fighters when they fought, but they were not cruel; they did not torture their prisoners, they did not kill the wounded. In their own country, they did not persecute the Christians. They were brave men, but they were gentle. They were honorable; they told the truth, they kept their word. This ideal of a gentleman especially impressed the English. It is still producing perhaps the finest class of human beings on earth today, the men and women of the British ruling class. It is an ideal that permeates all of American life. This is what surprises so many people in many parts of the world, when they see and meet the common American soldiers and sailors.
-- From The Discovery of Freedom by Rose Wilder Lane, conservative author and daughter of Laura Ingells Wilder
when are you gonna get to the "head-chopping" part, Billy??
although you do make a caliphate sound dreamy
leftie logic?
Golden history in Islam, huh? You know that is past tense? As in, "ONCE UPON A TIME"? As in, A LONG TIME AGO?
Now, you've got millions of desperate, weak minded fools whose lives revolve around breeding and a depraved ideology aka "religion".
The "religious" leaders have no problems molding the weak minds of the followers of said religion.
Just like Uncle Fraud has little difficulty in molding the minds of Americans.
You deserve a few hundred thumbs down on your tripe.
and to BullyBearish' "From the beginning of time...FEAR works...sad"...
that's true BB.... Terrorism 'works' even better.
The genie of Islamic fundamentalism has been loosed...at this point you can't "Kumbiya" that away with some "only love can conquer hate" jive....Whether neo-con/NWO derived or not, we're Working for the Clampdown now
But lately one or two has fully paid their due
For working for the clampdown
cognitive dissonance
they've been programmed to believe white = racist and non-white = not racist so they can't deal with the complexity of actual reality.
John Adams words were directed toward those who might seek to leverage one religion against another.
If you don't see one religion being leveraged against another then you might want to take off the blinders. Falwell and Graham are beating that drum hard. But it goes much deeper than that. The so called conservatives still haven't realized that the tactics used agaisnt Muslims are the same tactics which are now being rolled out against conservatives themselves. You reap what you sow.
You do realize "this Christian" has had a Muslim family doctor for over ten years now right? I don't ask her what "branch" of the Muslim tree she is and she doesn't ask me but I am willing to wager she is more "conservative" than I am and isn't really tryig to kill me.
I don't give a tinkers damn if her brand of Islamism is the oligarchial kind (Sunni) or the strict bloodline kind (Shia).
She just rolls her eyes at me like any other doctor would when I blatantly lie to her as she taps all my "volunteered" medical information into the easily accessible .gov NSA cloud.
So...her & I have the same understanding but I'm leaning toward her family being Shia ;-)
You do realize "this Christian" has had a Muslim family doctor for over ten years now right?
Of course I knew that. You don't think that the NSA guys are the only ones listening in on your doctor visits, do you?
But the fact remains that the playbook used for vilifying Islam is now being used against many traditional American and Christian traditions. Did you see the interview with the freshman kid at that college non-shooting today? He said "The first thing he did was to take out the Don't Tread on Me flag and in this day and age when someone takes out that flag you know what's going to happen.
Bubba is the new Mohammad.
"But the fact remains that the playbook used for vilifying Islam"
Read it yourself - half of it is explict instructions on how to wage war on non muslims.
It reads quite a bit like the Bible half of which is explicit instructions on how to wage war on non-Jews.
yes it is very similar to the old testament in tone but much more specific on the actual guerrilla warfare bit
The Bible goes much further than guerrilla warfare. It shows how to parasitize, bankrupt and starve entire nations from within. See the story of Joseph.
Well anyone reading my medical history only knows what I want them to know. As far as the kid, didn't see it and don't really care what some pimple faced kid has to say about Gadsden flags.
He's welcome to try and come take down my Stars & Bars anytime he wants though but fair warning, I can pop his zits at 100 yards and the dogs kinda like the flags shade ;-)
Now you sound like a terrorist. The plan is working.
This is exactly what I'm on about. All traditional people are under attack by the elites and they do it most efficiently by pitting one traditional culture against another.
They also do it by infecting the host. Sharia Law has NOTHING in common with western law as it's based on the Quran.
Or are you ready to start stringing up homos? While I certainly don't agree with their "sexuality" I'm not the least bit interested in killing them.
Unless of course, they hop my fence ;-)
On what occasions have you been subject to Sharia Law?
It should be enough for you to know I never will be.
"On what occasions have you been subject to Sharia Law?"
i agree lets wait till you're beheaded
"pitting one traditional culture against another"
all part of the the plan.. allpart of JC's plan...
my question to you...
what JC am i talking about ;)
Trump is the boomers last gasp.
He's the perfect narcissist to serve as the headstone to that generation.
The Trump phenomenon is a political variant of Mises' crack-up boom with votes being tossed around like a rapidly depreciating currency.
I believe there was a whole bunch of "Boomers" pointing out to little twerps like you that the ObamaCare "Plan" was to have THE GOVERNMENT FORCE LITTLE TWERPS LIKE YOU TO PAY FOR ALL OF THE "BOOMERS" HEALTH INSURANCE.
The "progressives" even said so, we just pointed it out to you...over and over and over again. We can't help it that YOU'RE stooopid.
Did I emphasize the word FORCE YOU in that enough for you?
Is it guilt that leads you to assume I'm young and a supporter of the other side of the same coin , or are you just a dumb cunt ?
lol...I don't have any guilt, why would I? Everything I have I earned.
So you're your whole point about Boomers was...what...exactly? You sound like an ignorant pissant who can't even construct a decent strawman, boi.
haha you got served.
lol...oh look, its a deaths head jo-mama!
Says the MySpace, Facebook, MyLife generation.
haha
his support crosses all demographics age / religion and race
Hillary core support is with the pressitutes and her husband with prostitutes - she gets 90% appproval from these groups
ill give you credit, billy - you are consistent in the face of opposition.
My problem with this plan of trumps is similar to my problem with his plan for a wall to prevent illegal immigration. Its authoritarianism that won't work. Its red meat for low IQ republican voters, which are unfortunately populating ZH these days. "ban all muslims" will not prevent an attack by muslims on US soil. If you want to decrease the terror threat, the first and most important stpe is to stop creating more terrorists who hate us by dropping bombs in 7 or 8 muslim countries. Every terrorist you kill creates more. That, coupled with the millions of them already here, and you have a recipe for disaster that is made worse each and every day our overseas military nonsense continues. You cannot get rid of the terrorist threat by not allowing people into this country. The motivation will keep growing stornger as long as we keep up the bombing campaign. Each and every drone strike is just another recruiting tool for these people.
Same deal with his "build a wall, make the mexicans pay for it" nonsense. As logn as huge economic incentives exist, luring people here with the promise of free healthcare, free housing, free education, free food, free utilities, free cash assistance, no wall is going to keep people out. You must dismantle the welfare state. Nothing else will do it.
My sister is convinced something bad is going to happen whenever the new Star Wars movie opens in theaters. Whether real or some kind of false flag, such an event would set off one hell of a shit-storm in this country, which seems to be on the verge of losing its collective mind.
There is a great disturbance in the Farce.
Hi Carl,
Have to say that I agree with you pretty much word for word.
and you have people who actually go around and downvote every post you make. badge of honor, i guess. But pretty childish of them. but, again, you are one of the few on here that is truly consistent, kudos to you.
If you want to decrease the terror threat, the first and most important stpe is to stop creating more terrorists who hate us by dropping bombs in 7 or 8 muslim countries.
Wrong, Carl. Total fail. Just fucking stop lying.
The muzzies have been killing EACH OTHER for thousands of years. If you go to the wrong mosque, they behead you. Bombing or no bombing makes no difference. No prayer to their god in their way -- death to you.
So you are just as FUCKING STUPID AND WEAK as Obama. To anyone with functioning brain cells, the first and most important step is, therefore, TO FUCKING DEFEND YOURSELF. Maintaining a strong border is rule number one of defending yourself.
As for the mexicans, your answer is another flat out lie. It has always been illegal to hire undocumented workers. The feds ignore those laws, while at the same time crying crocodile tears about lost jobs for americans. It is intentional fraud and corruption by all parties involved.
The mexicans are criminals, the people who employ them are criminals, and Obama is a criminal for not doing his sworn duty to uphold the law as written.
So, if someone bombs you, does that make you more or less likely to want them dead? Simple logic no?
You don't defend yourself by blowing others up. Explain to me how much of a threat pre-crisis Syria was? How about Lybia? Iraq? Were those self-defense?
Should those people be happy with us for blasting them back to the stone age?
You just don't make any fucking sense.
keep telling yourself that
greenskeepercarl,
You get it on all accounts.
Kudos to you
+1 carl and billy are two of the far better posters here.
There are a bunch of dumbfucks, shills and trolls that populate ZH these days.
you dont get it -
you rollout the sitcom week - by week - there will be a sequel to rationalize the proposal to stop immigration of Muslims - phase two - think SA!!!
From the treaty signed after the US won their war against the Barbary pirates who'd been slaving around the coasts of Europe for 1000 years.
John Adams, yes this is the fu.ker that instituted the "Aliens and Sedition Acts" in 1798:
No protesting the government? No immigrants allowed in? No freedom of the press. Lawmakers jailed? Is this the story of the Soviet Union during the Cold War?
No. It describes the United States in 1798 after the passage of the Alien and Sedition Acts.
And 4 years later, that treaty was broken by the "mussulmen" because Jefferson wouldn't submit to increasing demands for payoffs, forcing us to kick their asses in retaliation for their predation on our merchant ships.
GREAT EXAMPLE
And you still fail to understand the difference between laying blame on specific individuals for specific actions and vilifying all individuals with a common characteristic or affiliation. The founders understood that and expressed themselves eloquently on that point.
When the common characteristic is voluntary membership in an omnicidal death cult, I believe that vilifying them all is completely reasonable and appropriate.
You may want to learn what abrogation and taqiyya are, it might help you to understand why your perception of Islam is the complete opposite of the actuality of Islam.
Then you also might understand why those who have actually bothered to educate themselves in the subject rather than assembling a collection of belief-reinforcing tripe are negging all your posts.
Billy,
I think what these ziotards are trying to tell you is the GUN did it, so all guns are bad.
I have been around this bush many times. I dont give a fuck where someones from as long as the respect the constitution and my individual and natural rights as if their life depends on it.
Patsys by ziomedia have programmed these fools to repeat things...like parrots.
Cheers man.
RIPS
Thomas Jefferson and John Adams reporting to John Jay, re upcoming Barbary Wars lead by Jefferson. Americas first "War on Terror"
It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every muslim who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once. [2] [3] - Thomas Jefferson
1797 vs. 2015
These ain't your great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great Grandpa's Mussulmen...
Islam is not a religion, it's a cult.
Islam is not a religion, it's a cult.
Since you brought it up. Article 11 has nothing to do with the Treaty. It was only contained in the English version presented to the Senate.
You also surely must realize that need for the Treaty in the first place was that they were pirating and kidnapping Americans. It really wasn't a Treaty, or certainly not a Peace Treaty. It outlined the means and amount of extortion that would be required to make it stop. Even THAT wasn't enough for them, it resulted in the First and Second Barbary Wars.
All those two paragraphs show is that Western politicians were appeasing offended Muslims even in 1797.
The sense of deja vu arising from the fact that western politicians were acting then in the same cowardly way that they act now, is further compounded by the fact that then, even as now, it was the Muslims that had been acting execrably, and for centuries:
"For three centuries up to the time of the Treaty, the Mediterranean Sea lanes had been preyed on by the North African Muslim states of the Barbary Coast (Tripoli, Algiers, Morocco and Tunis) through privateering (government-sanctioned piracy). Hostages captured by the Barbary pirates were either ransomed or forced into slavery, contributing to the greater Ottoman slave trade (of which the Barbary states were a segment). Life for the captives often was harsh, especially for Christian captives, and many died from their treatment. Some captives "went Turk", that is, converted to Islam, a choice that made life in captivity easier for them."
(Wikipedia.)
how dare you say something factual that makes me feel foolish in my bigotry??!! downvote for you!!
We all know that Hillary has no soul. She'd behead a small Muslim child on prime time, national TV if she thought it would get her pantsuit in the White House. And for a few million $$ more, she'd drink its blood.
Make sure Madeline Albright gets a front row seat.
"This country was founded upon Enlightenment principles. "
Sure, but only if you were a white, preferably Anglo Saxon male.
The enlightenment was fatal for the Indegenous and Blacks
"This country was founded upon Enlightenment principles. "
Sure, but only if you were a white, preferably Anglo Saxon male.
The enlightenment was fatal for the Indegenous and Blacks
Doesn't it follow then that we must also ban progressives, for they are the ones who support limitless muslim invasion?
It follows that once discrimination against one religion has been established any religion can be targeted by the same means.
What about a religion that discriminates against US.......duh?
you must be one of those low IQ republicans that infests ZH these days, that carl was talking about.
let me spell it out for you, sport.
your religion (and theirs) can discriminate all it wants, no problem.
the state cannot be allowed to discriminate, as it is (at least in theory), a system of laws by which *all* people in the nation must abide.
it's called the first amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
rights for citizens don't apply to the entire world
agreed.
let's start with rights for citizens being upheld, for citizens.
it's not an "establishment of religion" to bar Muslims, dumbass
explain to me why your ridiculous first amendment interpretation wouldn't permit the practice of a religion that practiced human sacrifice
well, dumbass, if you had bothered to get to this part: "nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof", that would be the relevant phrase.
it's not my interpretation, it's the VERY FIRST amendment to the constitution that the country was founded on, people can practice whatever phony baloney made up religion they want. if you don't like america, get the hell out!
i don't see any problem with "practice of a religion that practiced human sacrifice", as long as all participants are voluntary. if someone is "sacrificing" an unwilling participant, that's called murder, and anyone doing that should be put in jail or executed.
hope that cleared things up for you!
What about a religion that inspires homicidal bombers and cop killers all in the name of being "pro-life?" Should that religion be banned?
Some old book says, "you reap what you sow." Do you know what that means?
Yep ban that one too. The only group think allowed hence forth is the church of Russel's teapot.
BTW, you better take down that Christmas tree before it offends someone.
I'm surprised those voracious peeples [with tender sensibilities] have not forced Christmas trees out of Walmart like they forced out Confedrate flags?
I'll get real upset if they start banning pork from grocery stores.
That's where I draw the red Line.
Don't touch my pork filets!
You draw a red line at the other white meat?
Chicken has gone up too much in price, as has beef. Plus, beef is hormone raised, antibiotic saturated and injected with saline solutions and mixed with pink slime and red dyes before it hits the stores.
Pure pork is still the best buy and much healthier for you.
Yes, dat's where I draw da line!